Was just thinking.. since there seems to be an outburst of new CNet BBS's going
up, it might be good to have a support echo.. For questions like.. what is everyone using for TIC file processing with Cnet? I can't remember what I used back in the day lol
--- CNet/3
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Hi Dave,

On 2018-08-15 09:45:02, you wrote to All:

Was just thinking.. since there seems to be an outburst of new CNet
BBS's going up, it might be good to have a support echo.. For
questions like.. what is everyone using for TIC file processing with
Cnet? I can't remember what I used back in the day lol

You can discuss anything bbs related in the BBSSOFT_AMY area.

More (areas) isn't always better! ;)

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
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On Wed 15-Aug-2018 9:45a, Dave Vandermeer@39:902/510.0 wrote:

Was just thinking.. since there seems to be an outburst of new CNet BBS's going
up, it might be good to have a support echo.. For questions like.. what
is
everyone using for TIC file processing with Cnet? I can't remember what I used
back in the day lol
--- CNet/3
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I know, there are popping up out of the woodwork. I requested this a month back and got shot down, but the CNet boards have doubled since then.

// CNet/5 SysOp: Gary McCulloch of Reign Of Fire BBS.
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--- CNet/5
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Hello Gary!

16 Aug 2018 14:26, Gary McCulloch wrote to Dave Vandermeer:

month back and got shot down, but the CNet boards have doubled since then.

cool imho


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/4.18.0-gentoo (x86_64))
* Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (39:140/0)

On Fri 16-Aug-1918 2:26p, Gary Mcculloch said to Dave Vandermeer:

I know, there are popping up out of the woodwork. I requested
this a month back and got shot down, but the CNet boards have doubled

since then.

Yea.. it's nice to see the comeback.. too bad everyone is running the overbloated version 5... I was good friends with Ray Akey and Todd Knight but as for the direction Ray took cnet (Todd didn't code shit, he just put up the money) he needed a kick in the ass lol.. that who 'GO' system is just retarded --- CNet/3
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I think a CNet echo would be better than a Warning Echo. See what one gets more use. We can alsways send warnings in here. :)

// CNet/5 SysOp: Gary McCulloch of Reign Of Fire BBS.
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I am really thinking AmigaNet should add a C-Net or CNet Echo. Now that both CNet Amiga and C-Net 64 are both back in development.

http://www.cnet64.com

http://www.cnetbbs.net

telnet://fw2.cnetbbs.net:6800

I myself will be setting up a dedicated computer to run Vise and will be very interested in putting up a C-Net64 BBS on it.

// CNet/5 SysOp: Gary McCulloch of Reign Of Fire BBS.
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--- CNet/5
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Hi Gary,

On 2018-08-19 00:50:58, you wrote to All:

I am really thinking AmigaNet should add a C-Net or CNet Echo. Now
that both CNet Amiga and C-Net 64 are both back in development.

We don't need more areas in AmigaNet. We need less (empty) ones.

And I don't see the BBSSOFT_AMY area overflowing with CNet related posts, which would be a reason to create a separate area on the subject.

Curently AFAIK all AmigaNet nodes are connected to all areas. So if you write CNet related posts in the BBSSOFT_AMY area you will reach the biggest audience. If you create a new area people have to take action to get connected to it.

In 2010 we (re)created the ZEUS_AMY bbs area, because proponents couldn't live without it, and it simply had to be created to get interested people to join the discusssions... Well since it's creation we had an overwhelming 31 posts in the area, of which half of them were test messages, not about Zeus. And Neil the author of Zeus, who is still a node in AmigaNet, didn't write a single message in the area.

And I don't think a separate area will automatically get more interest and posts than a more general one.

Maybe we should have rule, that when we create a new area, we first have to abolish 2 others, on which all nodes first have to agree. ;-)

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
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Hello Gary!

19 Aug 2018 00:50, Gary McCulloch wrote to All:

I am really thinking AmigaNet should add a C-Net or CNet Echo.
Now that both CNet Amiga and C-Net 64 are both back in development.

as wilfred say, no

http://www.cnet64.com
http://www.cnetbbs.net

cool

telnet://fw2.cnetbbs.net:6800

hope to see binkd soon, or emsi over telnet

I myself will be setting up a dedicated computer to run Vise
and will be very interested in putting up a C-Net64 BBS on it.

same here

// CNet/5 SysOp: Gary McCulloch of Reign Of Fire BBS.
\X/ JoinLink - RetroNet - AmigaNet - FidoNet .:CNet/5:.
-+- CNet/5

only amiga did it


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/4.18.3-gentoo (x86_64))
* Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (39:140/0)

Hello Wilfred!

20 Aug 2018 22:01, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Gary McCulloch:

We don't need more areas in AmigaNet. We need less (empty) ones.

lets join AMIGA echomail on fidonet, and close Amiganet aka, much more simple, and still could echange files and echomail there :)

just kidding


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/4.18.3-gentoo (x86_64))
* Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (39:140/0)

Hello Benny!

20 Aug 18 20:39, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

lets join AMIGA echomail on fidonet, and close Amiganet aka, much more simple, and still could echange files and echomail there :)

Piss off benny.

Do you even have or run a *REAL* amiga? My A4000 is right next to me and is in a working state as I've been helping a Zeus BBS
sysop get things working.



Stephen


--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20170303
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Hello Gary!

19 Aug 18 00:50, you wrote to all:

I am really thinking AmigaNet should add a C-Net or CNet Echo.
Now that both CNet Amiga and C-Net 64 are both back in development.

We don't need another empty echo. What is wrong with the BBSSOFT_AMY echo? All you have done is bitch and moan about not having
a cnet area.

*USE* what we have now.



Stephen


--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20170303
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Hello Stephen!

21 Aug 2018 10:03, Stephen Walsh wrote to Benny Pedersen:

Piss off benny.

you have sense of humor ?

Do you even have or run a *REAL* amiga?

i have plenty, even still a working a1000, does it help me ?

My A4000 is right next to me
and is in a working state

wish my a4000t did aswell

as I've been helping a Zeus BBS
sysop get things working.

good


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/4.18.3-gentoo (x86_64))
* Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (39:140/0)

Hello Stephen!

21 Aug 2018 10:04, Stephen Walsh wrote to Gary McCulloch:

We don't need another empty echo. What is wrong with the BBSSOFT_AMY echo?

or as you write to me, piss off ? :)

All you have done is bitch and moan about not having
a cnet area.

we can all have a bad day, i dont plan to make more humor here, since it could be misunderstanded in bad ways

*USE* what we have now.

and you remember USE is screeming loadly ?

on amiga this is even bolded

shameless


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/4.18.3-gentoo (x86_64))
* Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (39:140/0)

Hi Gary!

19 Aug 2018 00:50, from Gary McCulloch -> All:

I am really thinking AmigaNet should add a C-Net or CNet Echo.

What is the problem with bbssoft_amy.
That echo exists and fits the bill perfectly.
Why another echo?

CU, Ricsi

... Follow your dream! Unless it's the one where you're at work naked.
--- GoldED+/LNX
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In 2010 we (re)created the ZEUS_AMY bbs area, because proponents couldn't live ithout it, and it simply had to be created to get interested people to join the discusssions... Well since it's creation we had an overwhelming 31 posts in the area, of which half of them were test messages, not about Zeus. And Neil the au hor of Zeus, who is still a
node in AmigaNet, didn't write a single message in he area.

There was a resurgance of sysop's starting to run Zeus. That died along
with some of the sysop's disapearing. It also didn't help that Neil
hasn't fixed any of the bugs in ZMP the mail processor. I had to go
through a huge workaround and use crashmail due to the many bugs in zmp.

In the end I found mystic and moved the bbs over to that, in a VM. The
system has been so much more stable, that I can leave it alone for weeks
on end and it's still running along.





\/orlon


--- MagickaBBS v0.11alpha (Linux/armv6l)
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21 Aug 2018 10:03, Stephen Walsh wrote to Benny Pedersen:

Piss off benny.

I do, but you saying to close Amiganet every x months is beyond a joke.



\/orlon


--- MagickaBBS v0.11alpha (Linux/armv6l)
* Origin: Vorlon Empire: <Sector 550> (39:901/280.1)

Hi Stephen,

On 2018-08-21 11:08:26, you wrote to me:

In 2010 we (re)created the ZEUS_AMY bbs area, because proponents
couldn't live ithout it, and it simply had to be created to get
interested people to join the discusssions... Well since it's creation
we had an overwhelming 31 posts in the area, of which half of them were
test messages, not about Zeus. And Neil the au hor of Zeus, who is
still a node in AmigaNet, didn't write a single message in he area.

There was a resurgance of sysop's starting to run Zeus. That died along with some of the sysop's disapearing. It also didn't help that Neil
hasn't fixed any of the bugs in ZMP the mail processor. I had to go through a huge workaround and use crashmail due to the many bugs in zmp.

It was just an example of what I expect would happen to a newly created CNET_AMY area, don't take it personal!... ;)


Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (39:150/200)

Hello Stephen!

21 Aug 2018 23:28, Stephen Walsh wrote to Benny Pedersen:

I do, but you saying to close Amiganet every x months is beyond a
joke.

have fidonet systems with 65535 zones is not a joke at all

crashmail handle it just fine

but i dont want to manage so many zones without geting anymore data out of it

my consern is not specifik to amiganet only, more that i like to understand why make it more complicated in the first place


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/4.18.3-gentoo (x86_64))
* Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (39:140/0)

Hello Wilfred!

21 Aug 2018 16:19, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Stephen Walsh:

It was just an example of what I expect would happen to a newly
created CNET_AMY area, don't take it personal!... ;)

will CNET_AMY solve non working ZMP in zeus, sadly i lost xenolink source code, and Robert Dale is not on amiganet anymore imho, its a dead end :*(

xenolink mp did not have any isuses after Robert fixed it all, even got isdn calls withing xenolink to work

manual: if you dont know what isdn is, you dont have it


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/4.18.3-gentoo (x86_64))
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On Mon 19-Aug-1918 12:50a, Gary Mcculloch wrote:

I am really thinking AmigaNet should add a C-Net or CNet Echo.
Now
that both CNet Amiga and C-Net 64 are both back in development.

http://www.cnet64.com

http://www.cnetbbs.net

telnet://fw2.cnetbbs.net:6800

I myself will be setting up a dedicated computer to run Vise and will
be very interested in putting up a C-Net64 BBS on it.

// CNet/5 SysOp: Gary McCulloch of Reign Of Fire BBS.
\X/ JoinLink - RetroNet - AmigaNet - FidoNet .:CNet/5:.
--- CNet/5
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I'm thinking of starting up a new network dedicated to strictly C-Net BBS from all platforms. I have a machine running MBSE that I am going to use as the main
hub so there will be no conflicts with anyone trying to poll for mail, it runs
unattended. That way we can leave Amiganet the way it is and have more control
over the network content

Dave Vandermeer (+o idbbs) -- idbbs.dlinkddns.com:59 (Mystic BBS/Pi)
-- idbbs.dlinkddns.com:2023 (Cnet/3 v3.05c)
--- CNet/3
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Hello Dave!

27 Aug 18 15:47, you wrote to Gary Mcculloch:

I'm thinking of starting up a new network dedicated to strictly C-Net
BBS from all platforms. I have a machine running MBSE that I am going
to use as the main hub so there will be no conflicts with anyone
trying to poll for mail, it runs unattended. That way we can leave Amiganet the way it is and have more control over the network content

Oh, please, no!

https://xkcd.com/927/

Why don't you use the existing area here as already proposed? When there is so much traffic that other users get annoyed by those CNet messages, a seperate area can be created later. But please proceed with what's already there and not re-invent the wheel over and over again.

Ingo


--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5--b20170303
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On 08/27/18, Dave Vandermeer said the following...

I'm thinking of starting up a new network dedicated to strictly C-Net
BBS from all platforms. I have a machine running MBSE that I am going to use as the main hub so there will be no conflicts with anyone trying to poll for mail, it runs unattended. That way we can leave Amiganet the
way it is and have more control over the network content

It's not a bad idea Dave, what bad can come from it?? I just formed a in
house network between 2 of the 3 boards I run and once my CNet is stable enough, I will hook that one into it also, and other then my stupidity it
was a cake walk with both Mystic and SynchroNet.. Basically, if I read everything correctly you just need makenl to create the nodelist, and hubs
for the boards. If they are all in the states (highly doubtful) 1 for the beginning and 1 in each country that joins up. If the states get to be a lot then break the states up into 4 quarters and have regional hubs.. This is how
I did it when I ran the NISSA Network back in the early 90's for Image BBS.. Only difference was we only had states boards involved..

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Windows/32)
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Hi Wilfred,

It was just an example of what I expect would happen to a newly created CNET_AMY area, don't take it personal!... ;)

I'm not. I was just a bit pissed of at Benny for his "shut amiganet down"
crap every x months. Plus the cnet guys saying to start another
area/network, when the bbs software area on this network isn't even
getting much use.




\/orlon


--- MagickaBBS v0.11alpha (Linux/armv6l)
* Origin: Vorlon Empire: <Sector 550> (39:901/280.1)

Hi Stephen,

On 2018-08-30 11:41:15, you wrote to me:

It was just an example of what I expect would happen to a newly
created CNET_AMY area, don't take it personal!... ;)

I'm not. I was just a bit pissed of at Benny for his "shut amiganet down" crap every x months. Plus the cnet guys saying to start another area/network, when the bbs software area on this network isn't even getting much use.

My idea...

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (39:150/200)

Hello Wilfred!

30 Aug 2018 08:19, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Stephen Walsh:

area/network, when the bbs software area on this network isn't even
getting much use.

My idea...

cnet users does not use fidonet no matter that there is already amiga echomail there, idiots

Stephen: why do we need anoher aka ?, no one have answered this


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/4.18.5-gentoo (x86_64))
* Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (39:140/0)

On 08/30/18, Benny Pedersen said the following...

cnet users does not use fidonet no matter that there is already amiga echomail there, idiots

Not to get involved in this to deeply and I do apologize for saying something but calling CNet SysOp's idiots is totally uncalled for. My mother always
told me if you can't say something nice about someone don't say anything!
If this is the way the "upper echelon" of this network wants to treat other Amiga Users (CNet sysOps are AMIGA users even if some of us run Emulators I owned 3 Amiga's in my time) you can have the network, I am pulling my board
out immediately! Good luck to you!

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Windows/32)
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