On 04-01-19 07:43, Gerhard Strangar <=-
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So when I drive from Finland 'to' Gibraltar I never enter the UK.

I don't know what you're trying to say. You do not enter
the UK, because Gibraltar is not part of the UK, however it

Gibraltar is part of the UK. Look it up.

In the early 70s when I lived in England, I had wanted to visit
Gibraltar as a home base for touring Spain by rented auto. I discovered
that, at that time, such travel was impossible because Spain had closed
the border -- because of some dispute they were having with the UK.

Dale Shipp
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Am 02 Apr 19 01:33:02 schrob Dale Shipp an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema <Gibraltar>

Gibraltar is part of the UK. Look it up.

You need to correct some Wikipedia articles, then: ------------------------------------------------------------- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom
[...]
Membership
England
Northern Ireland
Scotland
Wales
[...]
The United Kingdom has sovereignty over seventeen territories which do not form part of the United Kingdom itself: fourteen British Overseas Territories[26] and three Crown dependencies.[26][169]
The fourteen British Overseas Territories are: [...]; Gibraltar; [...] -------------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------------------------------------- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibraltar
Gibraltar was nominated to be included on the United Nations list of Non-Self-Governing Territories by the United Kingdom when the list was created in 1946[58] and has been listed ever since.[59] The government of Gibraltar has actively worked to have Gibraltar removed from the list,[60] and in 2008 the British government declared Gibraltar's continued presence on the list an anachronism.[61]
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And you also need to get rid of the fake TLD .gi where someone seems to spend all his spare time on making up fake laws: https://www.gibraltarlaws.gov.gi/full_index.php
for example the one about "Amendments to facilitate passporting between Gibraltar and the United Kingdom".




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On 04-02-19 18:17, Gerhard Strangar <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Gibraltar <=-

Gibraltar is part of the UK. Look it up.

You need to correct some Wikipedia articles, then:

Why would I do that (nor do I know how to do that). I see nothing wrong
with the articles I have seen, nor what you quote, nor what I said.

The fourteen British Overseas Territories are: [...]; Gibraltar; [...]

So -- as you say, Gibraltar is a territory of the UK, i.e. it is part of
the UK.

The government of Gibraltar has actively worked to have
Gibraltar removed from the list,[60] and in 2008 the
British government declared Gibraltar's continued presence
on the list an anachronism.[61]

That may be, but is also considerably later than the time I was talking
about from my personal experience in the early 1970's. If Gibraltar
wants to become independent -- so be it, but what you quote implies that
has not yet happened.

And you also need to get rid of the fake TLD .gi where
someone seems to spend all his spare time on making up fake
laws:

I have no idea what you are talking about there. I have no knowledge of
a fake TLD .gi.

Dale Shipp
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Am 03 Apr 19 01:36:00 schrob Dale Shipp an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema
<Re: Gibraltar>

So -- as you say, Gibraltar is a territory of the UK, i.e. it is part of the UK.

Do you also consider Puerto Rico to be part of the USA?

---------------------------------------------------------------------- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Overseas_Territories
The British Overseas Territories (BOTs) or United Kingdom Overseas Territories (UKOTs) are 14 territories under the jurisdiction and sovereignty of the United Kingdom.[1][2] They are remnants of the British Empire that have not been granted independence or have voted to remain British territories. These territories do not form part of the United Kingdom and, with the exception of Gibraltar, are not part of the European Union. ----------------------------------------------------------------------




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So -- as you say, Gibraltar is a territory of the UK, i.e. it is part GS>DS> of the UK.

Do you also consider Puerto Rico to be part of the USA?

Is St.Pierre et Miquelon part of France? And therefor of Europe?

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Am 03 Apr 19 01:36:00 schrob Dale Shipp an Gerhard Strangar zum

Thema

<Re: Gibraltar>

So -- as you say, Gibraltar is a territory of the UK, i.e. it is

part of

the UK.

Do you also consider Puerto Rico to be part of the USA?

It's a 'territory.' As are Samoa and the Mariana Islands and a couple
of Caribbean islands.

Hawaii used to be a territory until it was granted statehood in 1959.
Hawaii was in independent kingdom until the US illegally conquered and
annexed it in 1898 because the Hawaiian government wouldn't let the US
navy build a base at the mouth of the Pearl River (said base is now
known as Pearl Harbor). That's pretty much what Putin did to Crimea a
couple of years ago
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On 04-03-19 15:57, Gerhard Strangar <=-
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Am 03 Apr 19 01:36:00 schrob Dale Shipp an Gerhard Strangar zum
Thema <Re: Gibraltar>

So -- as you say, Gibraltar is a territory of the UK, i.e. it is part of the UK.

Do you also consider Puerto Rico to be part of the USA?

Definitely. The people of Puerto Rico are American citizens, albeit
without representation in the Congress.

Dale Shipp
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Am 03 Apr 19 16:16:23 schrob Ward Dossche an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema
<Re: Gibraltar>

Is St.Pierre et Miquelon part of France? And therefor of Europe?

It's not a d‚partement and therefore not part of the EU. And it's part of North Amrica, not Europe.
French Guiana is part of the EU, though.



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Is St.Pierre et Miquelon part of France? And therefor of Europe?

It's not a d‚partement and therefore not part of the EU. And it's part of North Amrica, not Europe.

Hmmm ... the official currency is the Euro and in July non-stop flights to Paris CDG are started.

I think I can even go there without a passport as it seems Schengen rules apply.

French Guiana is part of the EU, though.

How about Mururoa ? Martinique?

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Am 04 Apr 19 18:25:08 schrob Ward Dossche an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema
<Re: Gibraltar>

Hmmm ... the official currency is the Euro and in July non-stop flights
to Paris CDG are started.

So what?
Montenegro and Kosovo both replaced the Dinar with Deutsche Mark and later on also changed to Euro without being in the European Currency Union.

I think I can even go there without a passport as it seems Schengen
rules apply.

They don't. I don't know if you need a passport, though. AFAIR I've never had one, my German ID card was suffiecent for Turkey and even the CSSR.

French Guiana is part of the EU, though.

How about Mururoa ? Martinique?

For details, read this in your favourite language: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:12012E/TXT

Or if you're good at geography, grab a Euro bank note and look at the shape of the islands. However, you might want to use a 500 Euro note, they're too small on the other ones. :-)



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French Guiana is part of the EU, though.

How about Mururoa ? Martinique?

I am starting to wonder if you are planning a Carribean vacation and are
hoping that GS will do all of the research for you. :)

Mike

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How about Mururoa ? Martinique?

I am starting to wonder if you are planning a Carribean vacation and are hoping that GS will do all of the research for you. :)

Next I intend to ask him about recommended hotels ...

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On 04-03-19 15:57, Gerhard Strangar <=-
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Am 03 Apr 19 01:36:00 schrob Dale Shipp an Gerhard Strangar zum
Thema <Re: Gibraltar>

So -- as you say, Gibraltar is a territory of the UK, i.e. it is

part of

the UK.

Do you also consider Puerto Rico to be part of the USA?

Definitely. The people of Puerto Rico are American citizens, albeit
without representation in the Congress.

I don't think they get to vote for president, either, unless they have
an official residence in a state and can vote absentee there
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Am 07 Apr 19 22:11:40 schrob Ward Dossche an Mike Powell zum Thema
<Re: Gibraltar>

How about Mururoa ? Martinique?

Next I intend to ask him about recommended hotels ...

Mururoa might only have a fallout shelter.



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How about Mururoa ? Martinique?

Next I intend to ask him about recommended hotels ...

Mururoa might only have a fallout shelter.

The fishing's great ... a lot of glowfish ...

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