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  • Burning the Flag

    From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to All on Mon Dec 23 21:13:56 2019
    Hello Everybody,

    How do you feel about those evil folks who burn the flag?
    The US Supreme Court has ruled long ago that Americans have
    the freedom to do that, regardless of how disgusting such
    an act may be, or how offensive others may find it. This
    is granted to them by the First Amendment, and the justices
    have deemed this right as not a mere privilege for a select
    few.

    So why is it that a man in Iowa was convicted, and
    sentenced, to 15 years in prison, for burning the flag?
    How in blazing hell did he manage to do that? His original
    sentence was only five years. But since he was deemed a
    habitual offender, his sentenced was tripled. Imagine
    that. 15 years, for burning the flag. On grounds it was
    a hate crime of arson. You see, the flag represents a
    sexual orientation. And we can't have that in America,
    the Land of the Free, can we?

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    Oh. The flag he burned was red/orange/yellow/green/blue/purple.
    Stolen from a church. Burned in plain sight. At least two other
    flags had previously been burned, but details were not available.

    My guess is that the only flags that are open game are those
    that are red/white/blue. Burning others are a hate crime, and
    would grant you decades in prison.

    --Lee

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  • From aaron thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Mon Dec 23 20:48:35 2019
    How do you feel about those evil folks who burn the flag?

    In the spirit of liberal lawlessness, I say we let em go. If he burns a transgender person, then we should lock em up.

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  • From Will Milberger@1:106/101 to Lee Lofaso on Tue Dec 24 09:04:25 2019
    Re: Burning the Flag
    By: Lee Lofaso to All on Mon Dec 23 2019 09:13 pm

    Oh. The flag he burned was red/orange/yellow/green/blue/purple.
    Stolen from a church. Burned in plain sight. At least two other

    I would have to say, as long as it is "your" flag. Not a flag that was puchased by and owned by someone else.

    Not to go down that rabbit hole, but I dislike the burning of the flag. The flag did not cause the transgression. It is a representation of all of us. It's not perfect like us. If some one has an issue, it is usually with a peron or persons of the govenment, not the country.

    Our country gives you the freedon to burn such items, as long as it is in a legal manner. This country also gives you the freedom to leave if it makes you that angry.

    Grease
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to aaron thomas on Tue Dec 24 21:55:11 2019
    Hello Aaron,

    How do you feel about those evil folks who burn the flag?

    In the spirit of liberal lawlessness, I say we let em go.

    Burning the LGBT pride flag is regarded as being a hate crime
    since the flag represents a sexual orientation. That is what
    makes it a hate crime of arson.

    People who have been convicted of hate crimes should do the time.
    No excuses. Such crimes should never be ignored, as if they had
    never been committed. How do you think the LGBT community would
    have reacted had the defendant told the judge, "I was only joking"
    - with the judge agreeing by throwing all charges out the window?
    Talk about a mockery of justice.

    If he burns a transgender person, then we should lock em up.

    The LGBT pride flag represents far more than just transgender
    persons. Burning their flag is a form of hate speech, which
    makes it a hate crime. In this case, a hate crime of arson.
    Since the convicted individual was a habitual offender, his
    sentence was tripled. 15 years, for burning the flag.

    There are only two countries in the world that make burning
    their national flag a crime - Iran and North Korea. I am sure
    there are many people in the US who believe the US flag should
    also be protected in the same way. This is supposed to be the
    land of the free, and the home of the brave. Certainly we
    can stomach having to watch a small number of misfits burning
    a US flag.

    --Lee

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  • From aaron thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Tue Dec 24 21:44:50 2019
    land of the free, and the home of the brave. Certainly we
    can stomach having to watch a small number of misfits burning
    a US flag.

    What's wrong with protesting a Transgender flag? Why is that a hate crime,
    but it's not a hate crime when people burn American flags? When they burn the Transgender flag, they're showing hatred for Transgendered people. When they burn the American flag, they're showing hatred for me and my country. Let's fire up ol' sparky for both of them, why don't we?

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