Is anyone watching the Supreme Court Judge hearings or am I the only dope watching? I don't understand how the stupid ass Dems won't vote for this woman.
They're really carried away with this Rode vs Wade crap.
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On 13 Oct 20 13:29:43, Steve Wolf said the following to All:

Is anyone watching the Supreme Court Judge hearings or am I the only dope watching? I don't understand how the stupid ass Dems won't vote for this

wo

They're really carried away with this Rode vs Wade crap.

She seems like a smart cookie...

Nick

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Is anyone watching the Supreme Court Judge hearings or am I the only dope watching?

I have not but I suppose many are. I'll be seeing the highlights soon enough.

I don't understand how the stupid ass Dems won't vote for this woman
They're really carried away with this Rode vs Wade crap.

Because the democrats want to maintain some form of impartiality on the supreme court. The need for that goes beyond the Roe V. Wade thing although that one alone has the potential to set your country back 50 years.

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watching? I don't understand how the stupid ass Dems won't vote for this

wo

They're looking for any kind of justification they can find to vote against her. Their idiot supporters are watching, and they want to see obstruction. In the end, it's just a partisan political choice, and for the Senate minority, they already know how they're voting despite how any silly questions get answered.

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Re: Re: Hearings?
By: Aaron Thomas to Steve Wolf on Wed Oct 14 2020 09:07 am

watching? I don't understand how the stupid ass Dems won't vote for this wo

They're looking for any kind of justification they can find to vote
against her. Their idiot supporters are watching, and they want to see obstruction. In the end, it's just a partisan political choice, and for
the Senate minority, they already know how they're voting despite how any silly questions get answered.

Their asking Hypothetical questions. Asking "How would you vote if?" Are you going to kill our babies? Are you going to take my right to kill my baby away? It's nonsense. They want to know if she supports Trump. This is just an attack on her character and has nothing to do if she would be a good judge. I'll say this... I think she's making these male politicians look like little boys. ;-)

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watching? I don't understand how the stupid ass Dems won't vote for this wo

They're looking for any kind of justification they can find to vote against her. Their idiot supporters are watching, and they want to see obstruction. In the end, it's just a partisan political choice, and for the Senate minority, they already know how they're voting despite how any silly questions get answered.

The're not looking for justification, they already have that.

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Their asking Hypothetical questions. Asking "How would you vote if?" Are you going to kill our babies? Are you going to take my right to kill my baby away? It's nonsense. They want to know if she supports Trump. This is just

an

attack on her character and has nothing to do if she would be a good judge.

Nothing hypothetical about it. Killing babies? Let's not get emotional.

I'll say this... I think she's making these male politicians look like
little boys. ;-)

She is a smart lady, and she would be a good judge if she could be impartial. She wants to implement the United States of Catholicism, next we'll see sharia law. A packed court could throw out Roe v. Wade and the ACA. Currently there is nothing to replace either, and that's only the beginning.

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The're not looking for justification, they already have that.

They're fine in asking some questions but it's unfair for them to ask her
about her policy views; she's obviously a Republican, so hypothetically, the answers to their hypothetical questions should be inferred.

If they had any reason not to confirm her, it would be out in the open. The whole senate, on both sides, has turned it into a cultural phenomenon. Their role in the USSC is to either vote & confirm, or play around and waste time. Must be a fun job! It would be rare for a SC nominee to be rejected.

A Democratic senate vetoed one of GHW Bush's nominees because the guy was heterosexual and drank alcohol. Back then these Senate dems were anti-lots of stuff, but now that they defend criminals, they are ganging up on an
adorable lady and intuition tells us that this little blondie is pro-life and if you ask her expecting a different answer, you're playing the senate confirmation game well.

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The're not looking for justification, they already have that.

They're fine in asking some questions but it's unfair for them to ask her about her policy views; she's obviously a Republican, so hypothetically, the answers to their hypothetical questions should be inferred.

This is the same process as always, there is nothing different about it.

When the senate installs a justice to decide issues of law they want to know how that person interprets the laws they write.

The senate will not (I hope) install a justice that decides cases of law in a way that will be outside of what the senates laws set out to do in the first place.

If they had any reason not to confirm her, it would be out in the open. The whole senate, on both sides, has turned it into a cultural phenomenon. Their role in the USSC is to either vote & confirm, or play around and waste time. Must be a fun job! It would be rare for a SC nominee to be rejected.

There is a mountain of reason not to confirm Barrett. We don't even need to question her, we can see it in her writings/doings.

A Democratic senate vetoed one of GHW Bush's nominees because the guy was heterosexual and drank alcohol. Back then these Senate dems were anti-lots

of

stuff, but now that they defend criminals, they are ganging up on an
adorable lady and intuition tells us that this little blondie is pro-life

and

if you ask her expecting a different answer, you're playing the senate confirmation game well.

Her pro-lifeness is OK, her being a tool to do gods work is another.

We do not want or need the state deciding for us what faith or morals we should live by. Women don't want or need the state to decide for them if they should have an abortion.

People should be free to live their lives as they choose.

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We do not want or need the state deciding for us what faith or morals we should live by. Women don't want or need the state to decide for them if

th

should have an abortion.

I haven't been watching the hearing coverage, but it looks like senate Democrats have made a huge impression on people.

So this Barret lady is some kind of religious dictator? More like Hitler than Trump? lol

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I haven't been watching the hearing coverage, but it looks like senate Democrats have made a huge impression on people.

It's senate republicans like Mitch who have made an impression. That is not new, it's just more of the same.

So this Barret lady is some kind of religious dictator? More like Hitler

than

Trump? lol

No, she's not a dictator. She has expressed views that lawyers can do gods work. Do you want America to be ruled by law or dogma?

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Nick Andre wrote to Steve Wolf <=-

Is anyone watching the Supreme Court Judge hearings or am I the only

dope

watching? I don't understand how the stupid ass Dems won't vote for this

wo

They're really carried away with this Rode vs Wade crap.

She seems like a smart cookie...

Which, I think, answers Steve's question about why the Dems won't vote for her.


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Alan Ianson wrote to Steve Wolf <=-

Because the democrats want to maintain some form of impartiality on the supreme court.

That has to be the most naive thing I've ever heard.

The Dems tried to pack the court in FDR's day.
They've been pushing Leftie judges there for decades.

The **last** thing that Lefties want it "impartiality" on the court. They
want the Supreme Court to be yet another way to get their unconstitutional ideas pushed through.


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Alan Ianson wrote to Steve Wolf <=-

Because the democrats want to maintain some form of impartiality on the
supreme court.

That has to be the most naive thing I've ever heard.

Impatiality of the supreme court is naive? That's the most naive thing I have ever heard.

The Dems tried to pack the court in FDR's day.

It's republicans packing the court today, right in front of your eyes.

They've been pushing Leftie judges there for decades.

Uhuh.

The **last** thing that Lefties want it "impartiality" on the court. They want the Supreme Court to be yet another way to get their unconstitutional ideas pushed through.

Forget what the lefties or righties want. Do you want an impartial supreme court?

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Alan Ianson wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

Because the democrats want to maintain some form of impartiality on the
supreme court.

That has to be the most naive thing I've ever heard.

Impatiality of the supreme court is naive? That's the most naive thing
I have ever heard.

It's amazing that Lefties can only seem to hear what they want to hear.

The Dems tried to pack the court in FDR's day.

It's republicans packing the court today, right in front of your eyes.

Then you do not understand what "court packing" is.

But it normal for lefties to re-define things when they want them to mean something else.

Forget what the lefties or righties want. Do you want an impartial
supreme court?

What I want is a Supreme Court that does their job: Uphold the Constitution. Not legislate from the bench - as has been
happening for a while now.

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It's republicans packing the court today, right in front of your eyes.

Then you do not understand what "court packing" is.

I do undertand what you are saying and what you mean by court packing.

But it normal for lefties to re-define things when they want them to mean something else.

The court packing began when Mitch McConell wouldn't give Obama's pick (Garland) a hearing 8 months before an election.

Then he gives Trump's nominee (Barrett) a hearing 50 days before an election. That is hypocracy, and court packing.

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Then he gives Trump's nominee (Barrett) a hearing 50 days before an

electio

That is hypocracy, and court packing.

But Trump's court packing is in accordance with current law, and if Trump didn't load it up now then he would be a disgrace to his voters. Only a scum like Biden would load it up later by increasing the quantity of justices. I don't think he really has the balls to do it though, he's just being encouraged by his care workers to act like a tough-guy. In reality, and Joe knows it, he would have hell to pay if he made an executive order to raise the # of justices. By not denouncing such a horrible, anti-Democratic idea, just to sound tough to bunch of idiots, Joe is thereby promoting the abuse of presidential power. People who appreciate that crap are some sick enablers.

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Hello Ron,

What I want is a Supreme Court that does their job: Uphold the Constitution.
Not legislate from the bench - as has been happening for a while now.

Well, it has been a while since LBJ was in office, when the USSC
had a majority of justices who did their jobs as the US Constitution
intended.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

But Trump's court packing is in accordance with current law,

Trump isn't "court packing". "Court packing" is increasing the number of justices.

This attempted change of the meaning of the term is just another Leftie tactic.
"If the current definition doesn't meet
our Narrative, change it so that it does."


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But Trump's court packing is in accordance with current law,

Trump isn't "court packing". "Court packing" is increasing the number of justices.

Donald Trump is "packing" the court with "conservatives" and "catholics". He is doing this for three (immediate) reasons.

1) Upcoming election litigation
2) To kill Roe v. Wade

To kill the ACA

He has said this publicly.

This attempted change of the meaning of the term is just another Leftie tactic "If the current definition doesn't meet our Narrative, change it so that it does."

Court "packing" is being done now. Perhaps the "lefties" will have to "unpack" the courts later.

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Alan Ianson wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

Donald Trump is "packing" the court with "conservatives" and
"catholics". He is doing this for three (immediate) reasons.

That's not "Court Packing" and the Dems did that same thing for many years.
So complaining about what Trump is doing is hypocritical - which seems to
be the norm for Lefties.

1) Upcoming election litigation
2) To kill Roe v. Wade

To kill the ACA

He has said this publicly.

No, he hasn't. Although in your delusional Leftie mind I can see why you think that.

1) Upcoming election litigation is only being pushed by the Dems because they know that they are going to lose big time.
2) The only way Roe vs. Wade will be killed is because it's not constutitional.
Of course, not having the court "packed" with leftie judges who think that the
Constitutional doesn't exist may cause that to happen.
3) The ACA is already dead and most people are happy about that. The "Affordable" Care Act was moronic and didn't make health care affordable to anyone. The people that it was supposed to help ended up paying premiums
on health plans with such high deductables that they could never take
advantage of the health plan. But that's normal for Leftie policies: they always have the opposite impact that they claim that they will have.

Court "packing" is being done now. Perhaps the "lefties" will have to "unpack" the courts later.

The Democrat party is finished. They've ripped the mask off and let everyone see what they actually are: totaltarians. Only the most useless and stupid people still want to vote for them.


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He has said this publicly.

No, he hasn't. Although in your delusional Leftie mind I can see why you think that.

Sure he has. Maybe you don't know or care but that is what he has said (even at his rallies) and that is what he is doing.

1) Upcoming election litigation is only being pushed by the Dems because

they

know that they are going to lose big time.

It doesn't look that way at this point.

2) The only way Roe vs. Wade will be killed is because it's not constutitional
Of course, not having the court "packed" with leftie judges who think that the
Constitutional doesn't exist may cause that to happen.

Packing your court with justices who have said Roe v. Wade should be overturned is one way to overturn it. The poeple don't want Roe v. Wade overturned. This will be a problem.

3) The ACA is already dead and most people are happy about that.

The ACA is still law and a large number of Americans depend on it. Without it a lot of people will not get the care they need.

The "Affordable" Care Act was moronic and didn't make health care affordable to anyone. The people that it was supposed to help ended up paying premiums on health plans with such high deductables that they could never take advantage of the health plan.

I agree. The ACA should be improved not killed. Wealthy Americans don't need the ACA. It is designed for the average working person/family.

Trump has not presented anything better although he has been saying for months that a new plan is weeks away. Two weeks before the election there is still no sign of it. He has still not released his taxes although he keeps saying he is going to do that and it would confirm or deny the story that he has paid only $750 in 2016 and 2017 in federal income taxes and none at all in 10 out of the last 15 years.

This is what we have to look at two weeks before the election.

But that's normal for Leftie policies: they always have the opposite impact that they claim that they will have.

You are impacted now by DT policy. It's not leftie at all.

Court "packing" is being done now. Perhaps the "lefties" will have to
"unpack" the courts later.

The Democrat party is finished.

Really. :)

They've ripped the mask off and let everyone see what they actually are: totaltarians. Only the most useless and stupid people still want to vote
for them.

If you talk to folks about policy without the politics I think you'll find your country is a lot more progressive that it seems.

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overturned is one way to overturn it. The poeple don't want Roe v. Wade overturned. This will be a problem.

The voters chose Trump, and Trump has always been up-front about his pro-life stance. The "people" you're really talking about are career politicians.

I agree. The ACA should be improved not killed. Wealthy Americans don't

nee

the ACA. It is designed for the average working person/family.

Trump has always been up-front about scrapping ACA. So, we also voted for scrapping the ACA when we voted Trump into office. He hasn't pulled it off yet, but he's done other things that make up for it.

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The voters chose Trump, and Trump has always been up-front about his

pro-life

stance.

I am also pro life although I don't push that on anyone.

There are many situations a woman can find herself in where an abortion may be the best choice for her in that situation.

The "people" you're really talking about are career politicians.

No, I'm talking about the American people. I think most people are pro life and also recognize that the decision is best left with a woman and her doctor rather than law makers.

I agree. The ACA should be improved not killed. Wealthy Americans don't nee >> the ACA. It is designed for the average working person/family.

Trump has always been up-front about scrapping ACA.

He's also said he would replace it with something better although no plan has been presented.

So, we also voted for scrapping the ACA when we voted Trump into office.
He hasn't pulled it off yet, but he's done other things that make up for it.

If he is going to scrap the ACA he needs to replace it with something. It's only two weeks to election day, where is it?

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I am also pro life although I don't push that on anyone.

Same here, but by not pushing it on people, we're probably being negligent.
We need to let our lawmakers know that we don't want late term abortions - not because we want to control women, but because we don't want babies executed on their birthdays.

If he is going to scrap the ACA he needs to replace it with something.

It's

only two weeks to election day, where is it?

Good point. The Republicans have been trying to repeal the ACA, but nobody knows about a proposed replacement just yet.

However, Joe Biden has indicated that he's in favor of Medicare for all, so if we get Joe, then we KNOW what's in store; paying for the world's medical bills.

Trump not having a plan is better than Joe's plan.

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Same here, but by not pushing it on people, we're probably being negligent.

No, negeligence is something else.

We need to let our lawmakers know that we don't want late term abortions -

They are already aware. No one wants or is advocating that.

not because we want to control women, but because we don't want babies executed on their birthdays.

Do you think those women who have carried those babies want to execute them?

This is a decision for a woman to make, not lawmakers.

If he is going to scrap the ACA he needs to replace it with something. It's >> only two weeks to election day, where is it?

Good point. The Republicans have been trying to repeal the ACA, but nobody knows about a proposed replacement just yet.

Trump has been working to kill the ACA (along with other republicans) since he took office and has been saying a replacement plan would be out in "weeks" but so far he has tabled nothing.

However, Joe Biden has indicated that he's in favor of Medicare for all, so if
we get Joe, then we KNOW what's in store; paying for the world's medical bills.

All Americans, not the world.

Trump not having a plan is better than Joe's plan.

Trump needs to do some planning and doing so he can get things done, things that matter. Planning around coronavirus, the ACA and global warming would be a good place to start.

There just doesn't seem to be any kind of planning in the white house today.

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On 10-22-20 11:35, Aaron Thomas <=-
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However, Joe Biden has indicated that he's in favor of Medicare for
all, so if we get Joe, then we KNOW what's in store; paying for the world's medical bills.

Wrong. Biden has made it very clear that he is not in favor of
single-payer type of system, but is in favor of personal choice.

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All Americans, not the world.

Canada has the equivalent of "medicare for all," right?

So what does your federal government do for illegal
immigrants when it comes to health care? Do you pay for that with your
taxes?

I donate to charity whenever I can, but I'm not comfortable with it becoming mandatory to do so - especially when I have other people's medical bills that I'd rather be paying for. My dad needs a hearing aid, but nobody has $1000 for it. So, instead of buying my dad a hearing aid, I'll buy health care for illegal immigrants. If my kids need braces? Well, I'll have to take that into consideration after I pay for braces for some illegal kids first.

There just doesn't seem to be any kind of planning in the white house

today

I don't agree with that statement. I see nothing but a stack of completed tasks. Maybe not the Green New Deal, or an apology to Iran, but those
are things we'll leave on the backburner for Democrats to play around with in 2024.

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Canada has the equivalent of "medicare for all," right?

So what does your federal government do for illegal
immigrants when it comes to health care? Do you pay for that with your taxes?

Illegal immigrants would not get coverage. They would have to pay out of pocket for their medical expenses. If you were to visit Canada you would also have to pay your own medical bills either through insurance or out of pocket. I never travel to the US without insurance.

I donate to charity whenever I can, but I'm not comfortable with it becoming mandatory to do so - especially when I have other people's medical bills

that

I'd rather be paying for. My dad needs a hearing aid, but nobody has $1000 for
it. So, instead of buying my dad a hearing aid, I'll buy health care for illegal immigrants. If my kids need braces? Well, I'll have to take that

into

consideration after I pay for braces for some illegal kids first.

I guess it's a matter it a matter of prioreties. Those who are wealthy or those with insurance need not worry. What about those who are not wealthy or have insurance, do we just let that go?

There just doesn't seem to be any kind of planning in the white house today

I don't agree with that statement. I see nothing but a stack of completed tasks. Maybe not the Green New Deal, or an apology to Iran, but those
are things we'll leave on the backburner for Democrats to play around with

in

2024.

The Trump white house has done some things, for sure. There are many things that need doing that he has simply ignored. Coronavirus is one that has been ignored for months now and it seems to be back in a big way just at election time. I don't know if you want a green new deal but some attention and thought should be paid to the science around global warming, at least.

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Wrong. Biden has made it very clear that he is not in favor of single-payer type of system, but is in favor of personal choice.

We'll find out what his policy plans are after he gets elected. We can't expect transparency from "The Big Guy."

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I guess it's a matter it a matter of prioreties. Those who are wealthy or those with insurance need not worry. What about those who are not wealthy have insurance, do we just let that go?

Some states in the USA have issues with health care costs, and some states make it easy for their residents. My state makes it too easy; we're
already paying for illegal immigrant health care here. We're also paying their legal fees; it's like the taxpayers have been sued in court and lost.

Canada doesn't care if the illegal immigrant is rich or poor; they will still require payment. I don't think that's unreasonable. We should do the same thing here.

People who can't pay because they're poor or not coverered can do what I used to do during the Obama administration: use motrin and bandaids for everything.

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On 10-23-20 11:45, Aaron Thomas <=-
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Wrong. Biden has made it very clear that he is not in favor of single-payer type of system, but is in favor of personal choice.

We'll find out what his policy plans are after he gets elected. We
can't expect transparency from "The Big Guy."

Biden has been a lot more transparent with his plans than Trump. We
know that we cannot expect truth from Trump.

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Funny guys lets let the Voters Pick!
Sam


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On 10-24-20 15:03, Sam Penwright <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Hearings? <=-

Funny guys lets let the Voters Pick!
Sam

Good idea. I already did pick via my ballot. How about the rest of
you?

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On 24 Oct 2020, Dale Shipp said the following...

On 10-23-20 11:45, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Hearings? <=-

Yes this is from 10/23/20, I reading what was said at this time when your response caught my eye. There is no expiration date on fidonet, this message and thread is just as fresh as the day it was typed.
Aside from that I wanted to respond and clear up a few things, that obviously has not occurred in your mind.

We'll find out what his policy plans are after he gets elected. We can't expect transparency from "The Big Guy."

Biden has been a lot more transparent with his plans than Trump. We
know that we cannot expect truth from Trump.

Your Democrat bias is showing again, your words - Biden has been a lot more transparent with his plans than Trump. We know that we cannot expect truth
from Trump...

That's too bad that you feel this way. but tell me who and or what are WE? Trump exists because of others have either failed to do or completely suck as
a Politician.
Don't take my word for it, just look at the facts.
Name me another President Democrat or Republican.
Who else had the courage to stop foreign countries (namely China) to continuously rip off the United States of America, with respect to Trade.
Who else fixed the tax code so that WE as Americans keep to keep more of our hard earned money.
Name me another President where the stock market has soared breaking its own record multiple times within 4 year term.
Can you recall a previous President of the U.S. that has done all of the above and has not collected a salary.
Your response to should prove to be interesting.

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Gregory Deyss wrote to Dale Shipp <=-

Your response to should prove to be interesting.

I predict silence, or he will spout off a bunch of Propaganda about how all those things happened under Osama...er.. Obama.


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On 12-13-20 08:35, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Hearings? <=-

We'll find out what his policy plans are after he gets elected. We
can't expect transparency from "The Big Guy."

Biden has been a lot more transparent with his plans than Trump. We
know that we cannot expect truth from Trump.

Your Democrat bias is showing again, your words - Biden has been a lot more transparent with his plans than Trump. We know that we cannot
expect truth from Trump...

It is my bias for truth and facts that is showing.

Don't take my word for it, just look at the facts.

Name me another President Democrat or Republican.

Who else had the courage to stop foreign countries (namely China) to continuously rip off the United States of America, with respect to
Trade.

I do not know all the facts on China, it is complex.

Who else fixed the tax code so that WE as Americans keep to keep
more of our hard earned money.

Not that much more. He fixed the tax code so that his billionaire
buddies got to keep a *LOT* more of their earnings.

Name me another President where the stock market has soared breaking
its own record multiple times within 4 year term.

The stock market rose at a higher average rate under Obama than under
Trump. Obama inherited a crash because of Bush policies that drove the
stock market down to about 6600. When he turned over the Presidency to
Trump it had risen steadily to 19800, an increase by a factor of 2.99
over a period of about 95 months, which equates to 1.16% per month
compounded monthly. Last stock market price is 29,999 -- an increase by a factor of 1.51 over a period of just under 48 months, which equates to
0.8% per month compounded monthly. In other words Trump inherited a
strong market and did not get it to increase at the same rate as it had
done under Obama. All of this discussion ignores the fact that only the
more affluent part of the population has any stake in the stock market.

Can you recall a previous President of the U.S. that has done all of
the above and has not collected a salary.

It is true that Trump says he has donated his salary. It is also true
that previous statements of his donations to charity have been false.
It is also true that he has earned far more than his salary by his
charges to the federal government for using his various private
facilities. It is also true that his donations for "help overturn the
election fund" have put more than 100 million into funds that he can use
for what ever he pleases. I.e. giving up $400,000 yearly salary pales
in comparison to the money he has raked in via other means based on his
office.

Your response to should prove to be interesting.

I hope it was interesting and enlightening for you.

Dale Shipp
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On 12-14-20 08:40, Ron Lauzon <=-
spoke to Gregory Deyss about Re: Hearings? <=-

Your response to should prove to be interesting.

I predict silence, or he will spout off a bunch of Propaganda about
how all those things happened under Osama...er.. Obama.

Your prediction is wrong. And unlike some others, I state facts, not propaganda.

Dale Shipp
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It is true that Trump says he has donated his salary. It is also true

Hilarious! Are you going to be this critical of Biden?

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Re: Re: Hearings?
By: Aaron Thomas to Dale Shipp on Tue Dec 15 2020 08:26 am

Hilarious! Are you going to be this critical of Biden?

If the Biden white house looks anything like the Trump white house there is sure to be criticism. I don't think it matters if a president is democrat or republican. If they do the wrong thing reelection will not be possible.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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If the Biden white house looks anything like the Trump white house there

is

sure to be criticism. I don't think it matters if a president is democrat republican. If they do the wrong thing reelection will not be possible.

Excellent points!

And Biden probably realizes this too. After all, he is a career politician.

The voters who swung from Republican to Democrat this year are going to need at least 1 great reason to re-elect Biden again in four years. I'm hoping that he tries to please everyone - I'll admit that he seems much more gentlemanly and respectable than Obama, so there's hope for Biden, especially if he distances himself from his past as VP and from Obama indefinitely.

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On 12-15-20 08:26, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Hearings? <=-

It is true that Trump says he has donated his salary. It is also true

Hilarious! Are you going to be this critical of Biden?

If he deserves it, yes.

Dale Shipp
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It is true that Trump says he has donated his salary. It is also

true

Hilarious! Are you going to be this critical of Biden?

If he deserves it, yes.

But don't both of them deserve the benefit of the doubt, as presidents, when it comes to stuff like this?

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Re: Re: Hearings?
By: Aaron Thomas to Dale Shipp on Wed Dec 16 2020 10:17 am

But don't both of them deserve the benefit of the doubt, as presidents, when it comes to stuff like this?

They may get the benefit of the doubt when all the facts are not present, but that will leave a shadow of doubt also that may cling to them.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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On 12-16-20 10:17, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Hearings? <=-

It is true that Trump says he has donated his
salary. It is also true

Hilarious! Are you going to be this critical of Biden?

If he deserves it, yes.

But don't both of them deserve the benefit of the doubt, as
presidents, when it comes to stuff like this?

Yes -- but given the enormity of the things that Trump has done or had
done in his name -- the benefit of the doubt went out the window a long
time ago.

Dale Shipp
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But don't both of them deserve the benefit of the doubt, as presidents, when it comes to stuff like this?

Yes -- but given the enormity of the things that Trump has done or had
done in his name -- the benefit of the doubt went out the window a long time ago.

Biden has offended me in many ways, but despite everything, if Biden were to say "I'm gonna donate my salary to illegal immigrants," I'd believe him and I wouldn't doubt him just because I don't like his politics.

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On 12-15-20, AARON THOMAS said to DALE SHIPP:

It is true that Trump says he has donated his salary. It is also true

Hilarious! Are you going to be this critical of Biden?

No, he won't. A lot of conflicting info about what's gonna happen on Jan 20. I'm no spring chicken. My experience has been if something really bad can happen, it will; and at the worst possible time.


My take is Biden gets inaugerated and the country goes down the tubes in a
very short time.


If you think illegals flooded the country during the Hussein/Biden days,
you're in for a whole lot of `you ain't seen nothin' yet'!



Harris is not just the very worst possible person to be vice president of
this country, she is the absolute pits for a first woman president. And don't think that isn't in the cards. It is.


This mask crap is nothing more than an opening to exercise `control' over people. Thats just the start. When Biden takes the oath, the `control' will escalate. Lockdowns will become common. So will a flood of illegal aliens taking jobs from Americans.


If Biden gets in the White House, dark days are coming. Stock pile non- perishable food and plenty of ammo.



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On 12-16-20, DALE SHIPP said to AARON THOMAS:

On 12-15-20 08:26, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Hearings? <=-

It is true that Trump says he has donated his salary. It is also true

Notice something......


Shipp states "It is true that Trump *says* he has donated his salary."


You know as well as I do that if Trump HADN'T done just that, the media in
this country would have been all over it like a pack of curs sniffing the shit of the alpha male!

Hilarious! Are you going to be this critical of Biden?

No, he won't.


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No, he won't. A lot of conflicting info about what's gonna happen on Jan 20.

There's gonna be a humongous crowd in DC on The Mall that day. Photos are going to be made from the top of the Washington monument and published in a composition with the Obama inauguration on the left with lots of people attending, the Trump inauguration in the middle showing The Mall 75% empty and the Biden/Harris inauguration right with The Mall again filled to capacity.

I will like that composition...

Harris is not just the very worst possible person to be vice president of this country, she is the absolute pits for a first woman president. And don't think that isn't in the cards. It is.

81,283,098 Americans who voted clearly entertain a different opinion.

If Biden gets in the White House, dark days are coming. Stock pile non- perishable food and plenty of ammo.

Whatever. Your boy lost, cut your losses and continue, tomorrow the sun will rise again.

\%/@rd

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If you think illegals flooded the country during the Hussein/Biden days, you're in for a whole lot of `you ain't seen nothin' yet'!

On the bright side, illegals from central America are likely to mostly stick to the hispanic states, like Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Colorado, California.

By the time they wander up north, hopefully they will figure out that murder isn't something you give $10 bucks to the cops for in order to avoid jail. But unfortunately for our southern states, that's a lesson that won't be learned quickly enough.

Harris is not just the very worst possible person to be vice president of this country, she is the absolute pits for a first woman president. And

don

think that isn't in the cards. It is.

The Republicans need to nominate 100% pure blacks for president and vice president. That's something that the Democrats haven't done yet. I know that's not the way we do business, we're not a skin-colored operation, but more of a skills-colored operation. But we need to blacken up before the crats do.

escalate. Lockdowns will become common. So will a flood of illegal aliens taking jobs from Americans.

I could care less about illegals taking our jobs. I just want them to feel like their lives will be over if they murder someone. But it's extremely difficult to make them feel that way because of where they came from.

If Biden gets in the White House, dark days are coming. Stock pile non- perishable food and plenty of ammo.

Next time I talk to any Republican lawmaker, I'm going to stress the importance of affordable arms. Every American citizen should have access to quality firearms & ammo. It's as important as any other lifesaving medicine.

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It is true that Trump says he has donated his salary. It is also true

Notice something......

Shipp states "It is true that Trump *says* he has donated his salary."

I know, that was my point exactly. He's learning to mislead like a pro.

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On 12-19-20 14:34, Ward Dossche <=-
spoke to Tim Richardson about Re: Hearings? <=-

There's gonna be a humongous crowd in DC on The Mall that
day. Photos are going to be made from the top of the
Washington monument and published in a composition with the
Obama inauguration on the left with lots of people
attending, the Trump inauguration in the middle showing The
Mall 75% empty and the Biden/Harris inauguration right with
The Mall again filled to capacity.

Actually, the word is that the Biden/Harris inauguration will be mostly virtual, with only a much smaller in-person attendence.

Dale Shipp
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Hello Dale,

There's gonna be a humongous crowd in DC on The Mall that WD>day. Photos

are going to be made from the top of the WD>Washington monument and
published in a composition with the WD>Obama inauguration on the left with lots of people WD>attending, the Trump inauguration in the middle showing
The WD>Mall 75% empty and the Biden/Harris inauguration right with WD>The Mall again filled to capacity.

Actually, the word is that the Biden/Harris inauguration will be mostly >virtual, with only a much smaller in-person attendence.

Imagine the sight. Everybody will be singing -

"He's got the whole world in his hands
He's got the whole wide world in his hands
He's got the whole world in his hands
He's got the whole world in his hands."

In every language on earth.

--Lee

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