I'm seriously looking to upgrade from my MGA 6 to MGA 10 (totally
clean installation *NOT* Update!!), but, having a bit of spare time
just now, I thought I'd (clean) install MGA 10 B1 or 2, whichever is
latest available, but I can't seem to find where to download it from.
I checked out https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_10_Release_Notes
expecting to find a link to a Mageia 10 Beta download site but, having
scrolled down and up on that site several times I couldn't find a
link to the MGA 10 B1 download site.
Is there one ..... yet?? Or an Alpha download site??
--
Daniel
I'm seriously looking to upgrade from my MGA 6 to MGA 10 (totally clean installation *NOT* Update!!), but, having a bit of spare time just now,
I thought I'd (clean) install MGA 10 B1 or 2, whichever is latest
available, but I can't seem to find where to download it from.
I checked out https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_10_Release_Notes
expecting to find a link to a Mageia 10 Beta download site but, having scrolled down and up on that site several times I couldn't find a link
to the MGA 10 B1 download site.
Is there one ..... yet?? Or an Alpha download site??
I'm seriously looking to upgrade from my MGA 6 to MGA 10 (totally clean installation *NOT* Update!!), but, having a bit of spare time just now,
I thought I'd (clean) install MGA 10 B1 or 2, whichever is latest
available, but I can't seem to find where to download it from.
I checked out https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_10_Release_Notes
expecting to find a link to a Mageia 10 Beta download site but, having scrolled down and up on that site several times I couldn't find a link
to the MGA 10 B1 download site.
Is there one ..... yet?? Or an Alpha download site??
If you do want to install cauldron, either do a net install and manually specify the mirror
and path, or do a minimal install of Mageia 9, then change the urpmi repos and update
to cauldron.
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 12:41:34 -0500, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
If you do want to install cauldron, either do a net install and manually specify the mirror
and path, or do a minimal install of Mageia 9, then change the urpmi repos and update
to cauldron.
I forgot to add. With cauldron, the release repos are being updated with every package update
or addition. That can cause problems during the install as the install is looking for a package
based on the list it got at the start of the install, but by the time it gets around to actually
downloading a package, that package has been replaced by a new version.
That doesn't happen in stable releases where packages are only added, but does with
caudron.
Check https://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/ for a quiet period (no packages building), before
starting a cauldron install.
Regards, Dave Hodgins
Hello Daniel70!
22 Dec 24 09:19, Daniel70 wrote to all:
New release in the pipe line is always called cooker and will be
version 10 so you need to look for that.
However, that said cooker is the development branch and can be
unstable, have many bugs and in any event has not been fully tested
for use as an upgrade path from the previous version.
No Linux distro as far as I have found have a upgrade path for
previous version prior to the current released version i.e., new
version for Mageia (which will be v10) will bot support v8 and
earlier).
So the only solution in this example to say of you are on v6 then you
need to update with v7, then v8 etc, etc or a fresh install say on a
new partition.
I should point out that my /home folder is always on another
partition on another drive so that user data is always maintained and
kept between differing versions and only requires once new version is pretested a fixed mount for the /home to the new version's root area
(/).
Vince
I'm seriously looking to upgrade from my MGA 6 to MGA 10 (totally
clean installation *NOT* Update!!), but, having a bit of spare
time just now, I thought I'd (clean) install MGA 10 B1 or 2,
whichever is latest available, but I can't seem to find where to
download it from.
I checked out https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_10_Release_Notes
expecting to find a link to a Mageia 10 Beta download site but,
having scrolled down and up on that site several times I couldn't
find a link to the MGA 10 B1 download site.
Is there one ..... yet?? Or an Alpha download site?? -- Daniel
Vincent
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 04:19:30 -0500, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
I'm seriously looking to upgrade from my MGA 6 to MGA 10 (totally
clean installation *NOT* Update!!), but, having a bit of spare
time just now, I thought I'd (clean) install MGA 10 B1 or 2,
whichever is latest available, but I can't seem to find where to
download it from.
I checked out https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_10_Release_Notes
expecting to find a link to a Mageia 10 Beta download site but,
having scrolled down and up on that site several times I couldn't
find a link to the MGA 10 B1 download site.
Is there one ..... yet?? Or an Alpha download site??
The beta for 10 has not started yet. I'm no longer involved,
bug do still skim through the mailing lists.
If you do want to install cauldron, either do a net install and
manually specify the mirror and path, or do a minimal install of
Mageia 9, then change the urpmi repos and update to cauldron.
Regards, Dave Hodgins
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 20:19:30 +1100, Daniel70 wrote:
I'm seriously looking to upgrade from my MGA 6 to MGA 10 (totally clean
installation *NOT* Update!!), but, having a bit of spare time just now,
I thought I'd (clean) install MGA 10 B1 or 2, whichever is latest
available, but I can't seem to find where to download it from.
I checked out https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_10_Release_Notes
expecting to find a link to a Mageia 10 Beta download site but, having
scrolled down and up on that site several times I couldn't find a link
to the MGA 10 B1 download site.
Is there one ..... yet?? Or an Alpha download site??
The Development version of Mageia is designated Cauldron.
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Cauldron
Cheers!
jim b.
Hello Daniel70!
22 Dec 24 09:19, Daniel70 wrote to all:
New release in the pipe line is always called cooker and will be version
10 so you need to look for that.
However, that said cooker is the development branch and can be unstable, have many bugs and in any event has not been fully tested for use as an upgrade path from the previous version.
No Linux distro as far as I have found have a upgrade path for previous version prior to the current released version i.e., new version for Mageia (which will be v10) will bot support v8 and earlier).
So the only solution in this example to say of you are on v6 then you need
to update with v7, then v8 etc, etc or a fresh install say on a new partition.
I should point out that my /home folder is always on another partition on another drive so that user data is always maintained and kept between differing versions and only requires once new version is pretested a
fixed mount for the /home to the new version's root area (/).
Vince
Jim wrote on 23/12/24 1:57 am:
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 20:19:30 +1100, Daniel70 wrote:Yes, I was aware of that .... but was really looking for an Alpha or
I'm seriously looking to upgrade from my MGA 6 to MGA 10 (totally clean
installation *NOT* Update!!), but, having a bit of spare time just now,
I thought I'd (clean) install MGA 10 B1 or 2, whichever is latest
available, but I can't seem to find where to download it from.
I checked out https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_10_Release_Notes
expecting to find a link to a Mageia 10 Beta download site but, having
scrolled down and up on that site several times I couldn't find a link
to the MGA 10 B1 download site.
Is there one ..... yet?? Or an Alpha download site??
The Development version of Mageia is designated Cauldron.
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Cauldron
Cheers!
jim b.
Beta version .... or even a Release Candidate Version.
On 2024-12-22 08:45, Vincent Coen wrote:
Hello Daniel70!
22 Dec 24 09:19, Daniel70 wrote to all:
New release in the pipe line is always called cooker and will be
version 10 so you need to look for that.
However, that said cooker is the development branch and can be
unstable, have many bugs and in any event has not been fully tested
for use as an upgrade path from the previous version.
No Linux distro as far as I have found have a upgrade path for
previous version prior to the current released version i.e., new
version for Mageia (which will be v10) will bot support v8 and
earlier).
So the only solution in this example to say of you are on v6 then
you need to update with v7, then v8 etc, etc or a fresh install say
on a new partition.
I should point out that my /home folder is always on another
partition on another drive so that user data is always maintained
and kept between differing versions and only requires once new
version is pretested a fixed mount for the /home to the new
version's root area (/).
Vince
"Cooker" was the Mandrake/Mandriva development version. Mageia's is
called "Cauldron."
On 2024-12-23 04:12, Daniel70 wrote:
Jim wrote on 23/12/24 1:57 am:No alpha, beta, or RC isos have been released yet. The developers have
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 20:19:30 +1100, Daniel70 wrote:Yes, I was aware of that .... but was really looking for an Alpha or
I'm seriously looking to upgrade from my MGA 6 to MGA 10 (totally clean >>>> installation *NOT* Update!!), but, having a bit of spare time just now, >>>> I thought I'd (clean) install MGA 10 B1 or 2, whichever is latest
available, but I can't seem to find where to download it from.
I checked out https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_10_Release_Notes
expecting to find a link to a Mageia 10 Beta download site but, having >>>> scrolled down and up on that site several times I couldn't find a link >>>> to the MGA 10 B1 download site.
Is there one ..... yet?? Or an Alpha download site??
The Development version of Mageia is designated Cauldron.
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Cauldron
Cheers!
jim b.
Beta version .... or even a Release Candidate Version.
not yet determined that it is "ready" for that part of the release
cycle, and we only release a Mageia "when it's ready," even the
pre-official versions.
I'm seriously looking to upgrade from my MGA 6 to MGA 10 (totally clean installation *NOT* Update!!), but, having a bit of spare time just now,
I thought I'd (clean) install MGA 10 B1 or 2, whichever is latest
available, but I can't seem to find where to download it from.
I checked out https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_10_Release_Notes
expecting to find a link to a Mageia 10 Beta download site but, having scrolled down and up on that site several times I couldn't find a link
to the MGA 10 B1 download site.
Is there one ..... yet?? Or an Alpha download site??
Jim wrote on 23/12/24 1:57 am:
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 20:19:30 +1100, Daniel70 wrote:Yes, I was aware of that .... but was really looking for an Alpha or
I'm seriously looking to upgrade from my MGA 6 to MGA 10 (totally clean
installation *NOT* Update!!), but, having a bit of spare time just now,
I thought I'd (clean) install MGA 10 B1 or 2, whichever is latest
available, but I can't seem to find where to download it from.
I checked out https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_10_Release_Notes
expecting to find a link to a Mageia 10 Beta download site but, having
scrolled down and up on that site several times I couldn't find a link
to the MGA 10 B1 download site.
Is there one ..... yet?? Or an Alpha download site??
The Development version of Mageia is designated Cauldron.
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Cauldron
Cheers!
jim b.
Beta version .... or even a Release Candidate Version.
I'm guessing the route I'll take (after backing up my internal 500GB HD
to an external 2 TB HD) would be to keep my (functioning) MGA6 and blow
away one of my other Installations (most likely MandrivaLinux 2007??)
and do a clean installation of MGA 9.0 (which I have already downloaded
and burnt to DVD), fully update MGA 9.0 and use it .... and then, when
you developer guys release MGA 10.0, update MGA 9.0 to MGA 10.0
On 24/12/24 20:49, Daniel70 wrote:
I'm guessing the route I'll take (after backing up my internal 500GB
HD to an external 2 TB HD) would be to keep my (functioning) MGA6 and
blow away one of my other Installations (most likely MandrivaLinux
2007??) and do a clean installation of MGA 9.0 (which I have already
downloaded and burnt to DVD), fully update MGA 9.0 and use it .... and
then, when you developer guys release MGA 10.0, update MGA 9.0 to MGA
10.0
A suggestion . Put the installation ISO on USB flash ram.
It's lass hassle than a DVD and installs much faster (12 minutes)
"IsoDumper" works well for this
Oh!! You Hi-techie, you, faeychild!! ;-P
At this stage I'd say something like "I've got the DVDs and gotta find something to do with them" .... mind you, in 'xx' years, I'll probably
have a 'Good' reason for using them and have run out!! ;-)
On 28/12/24 19:20, Daniel70 wrote:
Oh!! You Hi-techie, you, faeychild!! ;-P
At this stage I'd say something like "I've got the DVDs and gotta find
something to do with them" .... mind you, in 'xx' years, I'll probably
have a 'Good' reason for using them and have run out!! ;-)
I have few left too, along with tower of CD's some dvd-rw and some dual layer. They are gathering dust. It has been quite some time since anyone asked me to burn a disc for them
I still have MGA6 partition because that's the only release that Dvdstyler still works with.
I know that when I blow that partition away I'll get a request for an authored DVD. So it remains
I have a seperate Home in a seperate Partition, too!
I have a seperate Home in a seperate Partition, too!
Eternal Newbie here re. stuff like this...
How can you make a separate Home in a separate Partition ?
When installing I always make a 'separate partition' for /home... but what
is a "separate home " ?
What does it look like in the file system?
TIA
I have a seperate Home in a seperate Partition, too!
Eternal Newbie here re. stuff like this...
How can you make a separate Home in a separate Partition ?
When installing I always make a 'separate partition' for /home... but what
is a "separate home " ?
What does it look like in the file system?
TIA
Santo
lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE,MOUNTPOINT,LABEL,UUID,PARTLABEL,PARTUUID
When /home is in a separate partition, the root partition has a
directory /home that is then used as a mountpoint for the home
partition.
Clear enough?
Regards, Dave Hodgins
Yes thank you, the wording had confused me, I thought it was a way to
put /home somewhere totally different...
Happy Different Year
:-)
On 30/12/24 20:53, santo wrote:
Yes thank you, the wording had confused me, I thought it was a way
to put /home somewhere totally different... Happy Different Year
:-)
Yes indeed the AH-HA moment. I got a glimmer of peace from that
myself.
I realized that this probably holds true for separate "TMP" partition
For my Harddrive and it showed (amongst others) ...
├─sda5 swap [SWAP] 923ff3f4-03c4-463b-a69a-35623f9ec731
95aa95aa-05
... so am I wasting part of my (spinning rust) Harddrive or is the
system actually using sda5 for Swap space??
On Wed, 01 Jan 2025 05:30:07 -0500, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
<snip>
For my Harddrive and it showed (amongst others) ...
├─sda5 swap [SWAP] 923ff3f4-03c4-463b-a69a-35623f9ec731
95aa95aa-05
... so am I wasting part of my (spinning rust) Harddrive or is the
system actually using sda5 for Swap space??
Check the output of the command "swapon -s".
Regards, Dave Hodgins
David W. Hodgins wrote on 2/1/25 1:21 am:
On Wed, 01 Jan 2025 05:30:07 -0500, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: <snip>
For my Harddrive and it showed (amongst others) ... ├─sda5 swap
[SWAP] 923ff3f4-03c4-463b-a69a-35623f9ec731
95aa95aa-05 ... so am I wasting part of my (spinning rust)
Harddrive or is the system actually using sda5 for Swap space??
Check the output of the command "swapon -s".
Regards, Dave Hodgins
Thanks for the suggestion, Dave. First time I tried it, I got zero
result ..... then thought maybe, if I do it as a SuperUser ....
[daniel@localhost ~]$ su Password: [root@localhost daniel]# swapon
-s Filename Type Size
Used Priority /dev/sda5 partition
4088504 524 -2 [root@localhost daniel]#
So it's there but, to me, doesn't seem to be getting used much. Mind
you, this is just after I've cold booted this Laptop, so (if I
remember) I'll try again, in about four hours, just before I close
down for the night.
Daniel70 wrote on 2/1/25 7:53 pm:
David W. Hodgins wrote on 2/1/25 1:21 am:
On Wed, 01 Jan 2025 05:30:07 -0500, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: <snip>
For my Harddrive and it showed (amongst others) ... ├─sda5 swap
[SWAP] 923ff3f4-03c4-463b-a69a-35623f9ec731
95aa95aa-05 ... so am I wasting part of my (spinning rust)
Harddrive or is the system actually using sda5 for Swap space??
Check the output of the command "swapon -s".
Regards, Dave Hodgins
Thanks for the suggestion, Dave. First time I tried it, I got zero
result ..... then thought maybe, if I do it as a SuperUser ....
[daniel@localhost ~]$ su Password: [root@localhost daniel]# swapon
-s Filename Type Size
Used Priority /dev/sda5 partition
4088504 524 -2 [root@localhost daniel]#
So it's there but, to me, doesn't seem to be getting used much. Mind
you, this is just after I've cold booted this Laptop, so (if I
remember) I'll try again, in about four hours, just before I close
down for the night.
Here I am about five hours later, mainly doing UseNet reading, some game playing, and ....
[root@localhost daniel]# swapon -s
Filename Type Size Used Priority
/dev/sda5 partition 4088504 26380 -2 [root@localhost daniel]#
so the Used figure has increased from 524kB to 26,380kB
Does that indicate anything to you David?? Anyone??
so the Used figure has increased from 524kB to 26,380kB
Does that indicate anything to you David?? Anyone??
On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 09:11:31 -0500, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
<snip>
so the Used figure has increased from 524kB to 26,380kB
Does that indicate anything to you David?? Anyone??
Very small amount of swap used.
Another command that may be of use is "free -m". That shows the memory
and swap available and used in megabytes.
The file /proc/swaps contains size/used swap in bytes.
Regards, Dave Hodgins
David W. Hodgins wrote on 3/1/25 9:25 am:
On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 09:11:31 -0500, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
<snip>
so the Used figure has increased from 524kB to 26,380kB
Does that indicate anything to you David?? Anyone??
Very small amount of swap used.
Another command that may be of use is "free -m". That shows the memory
and swap available and used in megabytes.
The file /proc/swaps contains size/used swap in bytes.
Regards, Dave Hodgins
[root@localhost daniel]# free -m
total used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 3848 1199 1190 96 1458
2321
Swap: 3992 0 3992
[root@localhost daniel]#
I went looking for /proc/swaps .... opened Dolphin, selected the /
drive, entered my password, then entered '/proc/swaps' in the Search
Field ..... Waiting .... Waiting!! ;-(
On Fri, 03 Jan 2025 02:49:49 -0500, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
David W. Hodgins wrote on 3/1/25 9:25 am:
On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 09:11:31 -0500, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
<snip>
so the Used figure has increased from 524kB to 26,380kB
Does that indicate anything to you David?? Anyone??
Very small amount of swap used.
Another command that may be of use is "free -m". That shows the memory
and swap available and used in megabytes.
The file /proc/swaps contains size/used swap in bytes.
Regards, Dave Hodgins
[root@localhost daniel]# free -m
total used free shared buff/cache
available
Mem: 3848 1199 1190 96 1458
2321
Swap: 3992 0 3992
[root@localhost daniel]#
I went looking for /proc/swaps .... opened Dolphin, selected the /
drive, entered my password, then entered '/proc/swaps' in the Search
Field ..... Waiting .... Waiting!! ;-(
It's an ordianry (read only) file.
$ ls -l /proc/swaps
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 31 12:29 /proc/swaps
As it's only readable by root or members of the root group, either make your id a member of
the root group or use "su -" in a terminal to access it.
I went looking for /proc/swaps .... opened Dolphin, selected the /
drive, entered my password, then entered '/proc/swaps' in the Search
Field ..... Waiting .... Waiting!! ;-(
On 3/1/25 18:49, Daniel70 wrote:
I went looking for /proc/swaps .... opened Dolphin, selected the /
drive, entered my password, then entered '/proc/swaps' in the Search
Field ..... Waiting .... Waiting!! ;-(
It does depend somewhat on how much ram there is
~]$ cat /proc/swaps Filename Type Size
Used Priority /dev/nvme0n1p3 partition 11146236
0 -2
[faeychild@unimatrix ~]$ free
total used free shared buff/cache
available
Mem: 32813348 3781228 24318264 52064 4713856
28564648
Swap: 11146236 0 11146236
On Sat, 04 Jan 2025 15:18:07 -0500, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On Fri, 03 Jan 2025 02:49:49 -0500, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
David W. Hodgins wrote on 3/1/25 9:25 am:
On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 09:11:31 -0500, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
<snip>
so the Used figure has increased from 524kB to 26,380kB
Does that indicate anything to you David?? Anyone??
Very small amount of swap used.
Another command that may be of use is "free -m". That shows the memory >>>> and swap available and used in megabytes.
The file /proc/swaps contains size/used swap in bytes.
Regards, Dave Hodgins
[root@localhost daniel]# free -m
total used free shared buff/cache
available
Mem: 3848 1199 1190 96 1458
2321
Swap: 3992 0 3992
[root@localhost daniel]#
I went looking for /proc/swaps .... opened Dolphin, selected the /
drive, entered my password, then entered '/proc/swaps' in the Search
Field ..... Waiting .... Waiting!! ;-(
It's an ordianry (read only) file.
$ ls -l /proc/swaps
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 31 12:29 /proc/swaps
As it's only readable by root or members of the root group, either
make your id a member of
the root group or use "su -" in a terminal to access it.
Oops. Ignore that. Others have read access too. Using dolphin as a
regular user, /proc/swaps
is readable for me.
Regards, Dave Hodgins
faeychild wrote on 5/1/25 8:55 am:
[root@localhost daniel]# cat /proc/swaps Filename Type Size Used
Priority /dev/sda5 partition 4088504 524 -2
[root@localhost daniel]#
On 5/1/25 19:32, Daniel70 wrote:
faeychild wrote on 5/1/25 8:55 am:
[root@localhost daniel]# cat /proc/swaps
Filename Type Size Used
Priority
/dev/sda5 partition 4088504
524 -2
[root@localhost daniel]#
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