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    From Grimble@2:250/1 to All on Wed May 14 14:41:44 2025
    I was having trouble with "no space" messages on my other machine.
    Looking around, I saw /var/lib/flatpack was very large, so I uninstalled flatpak and deleted /var/lib/flatpack. When I reboted, I found my only
    window manager available was IceWM, I'd lost all my saved passwords and
    I couldn't find the equivalent of kmenuedit.
    How can I get Plasma back?
    --
    Grimble
    Registered Linux User #450547
    Machine 'Bach' running Plasma 5.27.10 on 6.6.88-desktop-3.mga9 kernel.
    Mageia release 9 (Official) for x86_64


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  • From Mike Easter@2:250/1 to All on Wed May 14 18:33:39 2025
    Grimble wrote:
    I was having trouble with "no space" messages on my other machine.
    Looking around, I saw /var/lib/flatpack was very large, so I uninstalled flatpak and deleted /var/lib/flatpack. When I reboted, I found my only window manager available was IceWM, I'd lost all my saved passwords and
    I couldn't find the equivalent of kmenuedit.
    How can I get Plasma back?

    This would be a good time to have a Timeshift backup.

    --
    Mike Easter

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  • From Mike Easter@2:250/1 to All on Wed May 14 18:52:16 2025
    Grimble wrote:
    I was having trouble with "no space" messages on my other machine.
    Looking around, I saw /var/lib/flatpack was very large, so I
    uninstalled flatpak and deleted /var/lib/flatpack. When I reboted, I
    found my only window manager available was IceWM, I'd lost all my
    saved passwords and I couldn't find the equivalent of kmenuedit. How
    can I get Plasma back?

    Seen in the Mag wiki:

    One of the down-side of using Flatpak, the first time you install
    one of them, it will download a lot of dependencies and use quite a
    lot of space. Example: after installing only KiCAD (which is rather
    big) as Flatpak system wide, /var/lib/flatpak/ was 4GB.

    .... and seen in the 'dependency hell' experiences manual; sometimes
    removing some 'package' causes the removal of dependencies which belong
    to other things.



    --
    Mike Easter

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  • From kyuzo@2:250/1 to All on Thu May 15 07:40:18 2025
    Il 14/05/25 19:52, Mike Easter ha scritto:
    Grimble wrote:
    I was having trouble with "no space" messages on my other machine.
    Looking around, I saw /var/lib/flatpack was very large, so I
    uninstalled flatpak and deleted /var/lib/flatpack. When I reboted, I
    found my only window manager available was IceWM, I'd lost all my
    saved passwords and I couldn't find the equivalent of kmenuedit. How
    can I get Plasma back?

    Seen in the Mag wiki:

    One of the down-side of using Flatpak, the first time you install
    one of them, it will download a lot of dependencies and use quite a
    lot of space. Example: after installing only KiCAD (which is rather
    big) as Flatpak system wide, /var/lib/flatpak/ was 4GB.

    ... and seen in the 'dependency hell' experiences manual; sometimes
    removing some 'package' causes the removal of dependencies which belong
    to other things.



    It could be a solution installing Flatpack only locally, not consuming
    the / partition.

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  • From Mike Easter@2:250/1 to All on Thu May 15 18:36:59 2025
    kyuzo wrote:
    It could be a solution installing Flatpack only locally, not consuming
    the / partition.

    How would the 'user' do that? That would have to be flatpak coding or a preferences/option feature availability.

    I'm just now reading that flatpak's design is like 'git for apps'. I
    didn't realize that.

    https://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/under-the-hood.html

    But, I certainly agree that if you *could* that would be a good idea.

    --
    Mike Easter

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  • From Grimble@2:250/1 to All on Fri May 16 17:18:12 2025
    On 14/05/2025 14:41, Grimble wrote:
    I was having trouble with "no space" messages on my other machine.
    Looking around, I saw /var/lib/flatpack was very large, so I uninstalled flatpak and deleted /var/lib/flatpack. When I reboted, I found my only window manager available was IceWM, I'd lost all my saved passwords and
    I couldn't find the equivalent of kmenuedit.
    How can I get Plasma back?
    Well, I've re-installed plasma, and the out-of space messages have
    stopped, so that's OK. I've forgotten what I installed that needed
    flatpak, but I'll be more careful in future.

    --
    Grimble
    Machine 'Haydn' running Plasma 5.27.10 on 6.6.88-desktop-3.mga9 kernel.
    Mageia release 9 (Official) for x86_64

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  • From kyuzo@2:250/1 to All on Sun May 25 23:58:45 2025
    Il 15/05/25 19:36, Mike Easter ha scritto:
    But, I certainly agree that if you *could* that would be a good idea
    Excuse me, i read only now.

    From the documentation:

    System versus user

    Flatpak commands can be run either system-wide or per-user. Applications
    and runtimes that are installed system-wide are available to all users
    on the system. Applications and runtimes that are installed per-user are
    only available to the users that installed them.

    The same principle applies to repositories - repositories that have been
    added system-wide are available to all users, whereas per-user
    repositories can only be used by a particular user.

    Flatpak commands are run system-wide by default. If you are installing applications for day-to-day usage, it is recommended to stick with this default behavior.

    However, running commands per-user can be useful for testing and
    development purposes, since objects that are installed in this way won’t
    be available to other users on the system. To do this, use the --user
    option, which can be used in combination with most flatpak commands.

    Commands behave in exactly the same way if they are run per-user rather
    than system-wide.

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  • From Gilberto F da Silva@2:250/1 to All on Mon May 26 19:07:27 2025

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    Grimble wrote:
    On 14/05/2025 14:41, Grimble wrote:
    I was having trouble with "no space" messages on my other
    machine. Looking around, I saw /var/lib/flatpack was very large,
    so I uninstalled flatpak and deleted /var/lib/flatpack. When I
    reboted, I found my only window manager available was IceWM, I'd
    lost all my saved passwords and I couldn't find the equivalent of
    kmenuedit. How can I get Plasma back?
    Well, I've re-installed plasma, and the out-of space messages have
    stopped, so that's OK. I've forgotten what I installed that needed
    flatpak, but I'll be more careful in future.


    We have many things recorded in computer memories, but original data
    created by us are not so many. So it's not so hard to backup.

    - --

    Abraços

    Gilberto F da Silva
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