Quoting Maurice Kinal to mark lewis on 05-May-2020 19:08 <=-

IIRC, nutella is hazel nut butter... like peanut butter... might
have chocolate in it, too...

I didn't notice any chocolate in the recipe I looked at but instead unsweetened cocoa powder which is not quite chocolate ... if I am not mistaken. Perhaps chocolate might be a good (better?) substitute.
I'd probably give it a try. :-)

Unsweetened cocoa powder is an ingredient of dark or milk chocolate...

Hold on ... I now see a recipe at https://www.splendidtable.org for homemade nutella that calls for 12 ounces milk chocolate, chopped.

That would be a reasonable shortcut... ;)

been years since i had any...

I think I had it once when I was a young lad way back when. If I am
not mistaken we spread it on toast as a butter substitute but then

It can be used as a substitute for peanut butter on toast, too... I used
to just eat it by the spoonful out of the jar... ;) Or swirl it onto my finger... ;)

switched back to regular butter since butter *is* better ... although vegans will probably disagree with me.

I wouldn't use it as a substitute for butter... nothing beats butter
melting into hot toast... :) Maybe sprinkle on some cinnamon sugar as
a treat.... yum... ;)

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Hallo Nancy!

homemade nutella that calls for 12 ounces milk chocolate, chopped.

That would be a reasonable shortcut... ;)

An acceptable one too although most hardcore Vegans would disagree because of the milk.

nothing beats butter melting into hot toast...

Hot butter melting into/onto almost everything is a good thing. :::patent pending:::

Maybe sprinkle on some cinnamon sugar as a treat.... yum... ;)

Sure but you had me at "butter melting into hot toast".

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Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 08-May-2020 07:40 <=-

homemade nutella that calls for 12 ounces milk chocolate, chopped.

That would be a reasonable shortcut... ;)

An acceptable one too although most hardcore Vegans would disagree
because of the milk.

Perhaps... but then Nutella isn't really a Vegan treat anyway... :)

nothing beats butter melting into hot toast...

Hot butter melting into/onto almost everything is a good thing.
:::patent pending:::

Can't patent that one... too many others are already using that
statement... :)

Maybe sprinkle on some cinnamon sugar as a treat.... yum... ;)

Sure but you had me at "butter melting into hot toast".

Got stuck on that, did you...? ;)

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Hallo Nancy!

but then Nutella isn't really a Vegan treat anyway... :)

The first recipe for nutella that I stumbled across was a vegan nutella. That is where I got the quote about hazelnuts being extremely good for you from. The one that called for milk chocolate wasn't from that site given the milk part.

Sure but you had me at "butter melting into hot toast".

Got stuck on that, did you...? ;)

For sure. I am still there.

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Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 13-May-2020 14:28 <=-

but then Nutella isn't really a Vegan treat anyway... :)

The first recipe for nutella that I stumbled across was a vegan
nutella. That is where I got the quote about hazelnuts being
extremely good for you from.

Ah... that explains it... ;) Nuts are one of the better plant sources
of proteins, but still not a perfect food, or even perfect protein... :)

The one that called for milk chocolate
wasn't from that site given the milk part.

For sure... :) Lacto-vegetarian, maybe, but not vegan... ;)

Sure but you had me at "butter melting into hot toast".

Got stuck on that, did you...? ;)

For sure. I am still there.

Have you consumed a loaf of bread and a pound of butter, yet....? <G>

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Hey Nancy!

For sure... :) Lacto-vegetarian, maybe, but not vegan... ;)

Hardcore vegans don't use any products derived from animals such as milk, cheese, etc. Therefore milk chocolate would be a no-no simply because of the milk. Chocolate is okay as long as there is no milk, or any other animal byproduct, in it's ingredients.

Have you consumed a loaf of bread and a pound of butter, yet....?

Nope. I don't buy or bake bread since it goes moldy/stale before I can eat it all. Butter I use daily for all sorts of things but not toast. I can still fantasize about it though. At the moment I am thinking Russian rye for some reason.

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Re: nutella was: except for alice
By: Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on Thu May 21 2020 18:54:00

For sure... :) Lacto-vegetarian, maybe, but not vegan... ;)

Hardcore vegans don't use any products derived from animals such as
milk, cheese, etc.

those are vegans... all others are vegetarians of one type or another... "vegan" is not short for "vegetarian" ;)


7 Types of Vegetarianism
Q: What are the types or levels of vegetarianism?

A: There are several “levels” of vegetarianism, or types of vegetarian diet, that depend on which foods you choose not to eat. Starting from the most restrictive and working our way down, the types of vegetarian are as follows:

1. Vegan
Vegans do not consume any animal products or by-products. So vegans of course do not consume red or white meat, fish or fowl. They also do not consume eggs and dairy. Vegans do not use honey or beeswax, gelatin and any other animal by-product ingredients or products. Vegans typically do not use animal products such as silk, leather and wool, as well.


2. Lacto Vegetarian
Lacto-vegetarians do not eat red or white meat, fish, fowl or eggs. However, lacto-vegetarians do consume dairy products such as cheese, milk and yogurt.


3. Ovo Vegetarian
Ovo-vegetarians do not eat red or white meat, fish, fowl or dairy products. However, ovo-vegetarians do consume egg products.


4. Lacto-ovo vegetarian
Lacto-ovo vegetarians do not consume red meat, white meat, fish or fowl. However, lacto-ovo vegetarians do consume dairy products and egg products. This is the most common type of vegetarian.


5. Pescatarian (Pescetarian)
While technically not a type of vegetarian, these individuals do restrict their meat consumption to fish and seafood only. Pescatarians do not consume red meat, white meat or fowl. This is considered a “semi-vegetarian”
or “flexitarian” diet.


6. Pollotarian
Much like the pescatarian, this “semi-vegetarian” diet restricts meat consumption to poultry and fowl only, and is not officially considered a vegetarian. Pollotarians do not consume red meat or fish and seafood.


7. Flexitarian
A plant-based diet with the occasional meat item on the menu. These folks do their best to limit meat intake as much as possible and they have an almost entirely plant-based diet. This is not technically considered a “vegetarian” diet, but we commend the effort!


https://vegetarian-nation.com/resources/common-questions/types-levels-vegetaria n/


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Hey mark!

those are vegans... all others are vegetarians of one type or
another... "vegan" is not short for "vegetarian" ;)

I am concluding that what I though of as hardcore vegans are the only true vegans based on your reply to me.

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Re: nutella was: except for alice
By: Maurice Kinal to mark lewis on Sat May 23 2020 02:58:30

those are vegans... all others are vegetarians of one type or
another... "vegan" is not short for "vegetarian" ;)

I am concluding that what I though of as hardcore vegans are the
only true vegans based on your reply to me.

yes... vegans are vegans... hardcore or not... unlike so-called high-ascii (>127) which i don't think anyone has coined a decent name for that is satisfactory to everyone after all these years ;)


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Hallo mark!

yes... vegans are vegans... hardcore or not...

That works for me.

unlike so-called high-ascii (>127) which i don't think anyone
has coined a decent name for that is satisfactory to everyone
after all these years ;)

I suggest bullshit. Anyhow if the CP437 people, or whatever they have been suckered into calling that particular encoding, wish to continue believing in the high-ascii codes I personally don't have an issue with it other than refusing to participate in the scam amd calling it out when they try to impose their total nonsense on everyone.

Another delusion is that they are in the majority which is almost as big of a pile of bullshit as high-ascii is.

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Maurice

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Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 21-May-2020 18:54 <=-

For sure... :) Lacto-vegetarian, maybe, but not vegan... ;)

Hardcore vegans don't use any products derived from animals such as
milk, cheese, etc. Therefore milk chocolate would be a no-no simply because of the milk. Chocolate is okay as long as there is no milk,
or any other animal byproduct, in it's ingredients.

It might be better to say that vegans are a more limited form of
vegetarian, not that they are hardcore... but yes, vegans won't even eat
honey because it is an animal (insect) product...

Have you consumed a loaf of bread and a pound of butter, yet....?

Nope. I don't buy or bake bread since it goes moldy/stale before I
can eat it all. Butter I use daily for all sorts of things but not
toast. I can still fantasize about it though. At the moment I am thinking Russian rye for some reason.

We don't use bread very fast either... so we keep ours in the fridge,
which keeps it edible for a few months... ;)

ttyl neb

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Quoting mark lewis to Maurice Kinal on 22-May-2020 08:47 <=-

Re: nutella was: except for alice
By: Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on Thu May 21 2020 18:54:00

For sure... :) Lacto-vegetarian, maybe, but not vegan... ;)

Hardcore vegans don't use any products derived from animals such as
milk, cheese, etc.

those are vegans... all others are vegetarians of one type or
another... "vegan" is not short for "vegetarian" ;)

Thank you for jumping in with this... saved me having to do the entire explanation myself and yours is much more in depth than I likely would
have gone into.... :) I have friends and family that subscribe to one
level or other of this, from vegan all the way to pescatarian.... and of
course many others that tend to be some sort of flexitarian...

https://vegetarian-nation.com/resources/common-questions/types-levels-v egetarian/

So that was your source... :)

ttyl neb

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