I just purchaced a C64/1541 combo. I have it up and nothing to load. When yo purchase a WiFi modem, do they or can they send you a floppy with a term program on it?

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On 08 Nov 2019, Garbare Mcculloch said the following...

I just purchaced a C64/1541 combo. I have it up and nothing to load. When yo purchase a WiFi modem, do they or can they send you a floppy
with a term program on it?

I've never seen any offer actual floppies. At most a disk image containing a term program for use with a sd2iec or similar adapter.

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On Fri, 08 Nov 2019 21:01:09 +1300, Garbare Mcculloch wrote:

I just purchaced a C64/1541 combo. I have it up and nothing to load. When

yo

purchase a WiFi modem, do they or can they send you a floppy with a term program on it?

For the C64 exist several terminal programs <http://commodore.software/downloads/category/66-miscellaneous-terminal-program s>.

No idea how to connect to the internet. I think Youtube has videos for
that.
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Garbare Mcculloch schrieb:

I just purchaced a C64/1541 combo. I have it up and nothing to load. When

yo

purchase a WiFi modem, do they or can they send you a floppy with a term program on it?

Guess you might ask there. It will be the best option if they can add a disk with a term programm. Otherwise maybe you can type a small programm into the computer like you did with these computer magazines back then.
However, once you have your Terminal is ready, you'd be able to transfer other software from BBS you can connect to.

There are also other future options like transferring a D64 directly from the internet to your floppy drive, but they are not done yet.

However, something like the 1541-U still is the fastest and most comfortable option to transfer D64 images from the internet to a C64.

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Wed 13-Nov-2019 11:00a

However, once you have your Terminal is ready, you'd be able to transfer other
software from BBS you can connect to.

This is what I was thinking also. Get a Modem and then get the software from BBSes. Just one Term program is needed to get you started. I think I may start to seperate my files here for D64 and Raw for downloading.

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Gary McCulloch schrieb:

Wed 13-Nov-2019 11:00a

However, once you have your Terminal is ready, you'd be able to transfer other
software from BBS you can connect to.

This is what I was thinking also. Get a Modem and then get the software from BBSes. Just one Term program is needed to get you started. I think I may start to seperate my files here for D64 and Raw for downloading.

This will work once you have the Term software. However it is not the fastest and easiest solution of course.

It would be easier if someone writes a tool that does a direct D64 to Disk Transfer. That should be possible but was not done yet.
Maybe you could keep the initial transfer program light enough so that everyone
can type this into his computer.

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I just order a RS-232 WiFi modem and a XU1541 for my C64/C128. They are due in the first week of December. I will post my finding once I get them and get to try them out.
Meanwhile I used WinVice and CCGMS to connect to Reign of Fire BBS. Looks real nice for C64 callers in 40 columns. Hope to be calling with real hardware soon.

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Gary McCulloch schrieb:

However, once you have your Terminal is ready, you'd be able to transfer other
software from BBS you can connect to.

This is what I was thinking also. Get a Modem and then get the software from BBSes. Just one Term program is needed to get you started. I think I may start to seperate my files here for D64 and Raw for downloading.

I figured out that via commodoreserver.com you can use your modem to load programms directly from the "cloud".
Once you have managed to connect and run the programm, you can load online disks
and files from Device #2.

The file V-1541 is just 13 Blocks, so you'd be able to get this to your computer
with a Checksummer/MSD (e.g. list typing).

However I had to connect to Commodoreserver.com with my modem tool (which is about 60 Blocks), but I guess that is not necesary if you figure out how to get
a V-1541 driver.

BTW, please check your news reader. It is not referring your answers to existing
threads, so every time you answer, you seem to open a new thread.

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On Tue 10-Dec-2019 1:23a, Martin Brunner@3:770/3.0 said to Spitfire:

BTW, please check your news reader. It is not referring your answers to existing threads, so every time you answer, you seem to open a new thread.

That seems strange as when they arive here (Future World II), Spitfire's messages are threaded as expected, so not sure whats going on.

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On Tue 10-Dec-2019 1:23a, Martin Brunner@3:770/3.0 said to Gary McCulloch:

Gary McCulloch schrieb:

However, once you have your Terminal is ready, you'd be able to

transfer

other
software from BBS you can connect to.

This is what I was thinking also. Get a Modem and then get the software from BBSes. Just one Term program is needed to get you

started. I

think I may start to seperate my files here for D64 and Raw for

downloading.

I figured out that via commodoreserver.com you can use your modem to load programms directly from the "cloud".
Once you have managed to connect and run the programm, you can load online disks
and files from Device #2.

The file V-1541 is just 13 Blocks, so you'd be able to get this to your computer
with a Checksummer/MSD (e.g. list typing).

However I had to connect to Commodoreserver.com with my modem tool (which is
about 60 Blocks), but I guess that is not necesary if you figure out how
to get
a V-1541 driver.

BTW, please check your news reader. It is not referring your answers to existing
threads, so every time you answer, you seem to open a new thread.

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I ended up getting a XU1541 so I coppied CCGMS to floppy and now I can call out on my C64.

As for my responces starting a new post. Are you sure its on my side?
I have seen my responces on other boards under the initial thread.

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Gary McCulloch schrieb:

I ended up getting a XU1541 so I coppied CCGMS to floppy and now I can
call out on my C64.

That is for sure a possibility, allthough I think an easy solution that comes with a modem would be nice.

As for my responces starting a new post. Are you sure its on my side?

Yes. Your messages are missing the "references:"-tag in the header. So there is
no way news readers can connect your answers to other postings.

See here: https://wesmorgan.blogspot.com/2012/07/understanding-email-headers-part-ii.html

The presence of In-Reply-To and References headers indicate that the message is
a reply to a previous message.
The References header makes "threaded mail reading" and per-discussion archival
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On Thu 12-Dec-2019 1:23a, Martin Brunner@3:770/3.0 said to Spitfire:

Yes. Your messages are missing the "references:"-tag in the header. So there is
no way news readers can connect your answers to other postings.

Not to get off topic, but I brought up this issue in FIDOTEST echo. IU am having no problems in there. Can you look for the AmiBinkD test post I made and lets discuss this issue ther.

Meanwhile, for those CBM users wanting to use ther C64/128 and calling a BBS with it. Check out my Origin. give it a call. The New Users login is long, but well worth the time. Trust Me!

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Martin Brunner wrote:

BTW, please check your news reader. It is not referring your answers to

existing

threads, so every time you answer, you seem to open a new thread.

Gary seems to be posting out from a BBS message base. I've been noticing
an increase in postings here from some BBS systems. Unfortunately, their message base to Usenet newsgroup converter must be not configured
correctly.

For you BBS members who may not know, you're seeing/responding to posts
in the Usenet comp.sys.cbm newsgroup.

Jason

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On Mon 16-Dec-2019 7:26p, J. Robertson@3:770/3.0 said to Martin Brunner:

Martin Brunner wrote:

Gary seems to be posting out from a BBS message base. I've been noticing
an increase in postings here from some BBS systems. Unfortunately, their message base to Usenet newsgroup converter must be not configured correctly.

For you BBS members who may not know, you're seeing/responding to posts
in the Usenet comp.sys.cbm newsgroup.

Jason

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Actually, he is posting his messages on FidoNet, someone is crossposting the messages from the Commodore Echo on FidoNet to the Usenet newsgroups...
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On Mon 16-Dec-2019 7:26p, J. Robertson@3:770/3.0 said to Martin Brunner:

Gary seems to be posting out from a BBS message base. I've been noticing
an increase in postings here from some BBS systems. Unfortunately, their message base to Usenet newsgroup converter must be not configured correctly.

For you BBS members who may not know, you're seeing/responding to posts
in the Usenet comp.sys.cbm newsgroup.

Jason

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Hmmm... For myself, I thought this was the FidoNet CBM Echo. I did not
know they were linked together.

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Actually, he is posting his messages on FidoNet, someone is crossposting the messages from the Commodore Echo on FidoNet to the Usenet

I have yet to cross any gate software that will allow usenet msgids to match FTN style msgids in order to reference a message you are replying to.

I'm posting from a bbs to another user on a bbs via Fidonet. He will see that it is a reply and everyone using usenet will see that it is just a message to All.

It's annoying, I know, but it is what it is.

I have been working on updating the code of some software that gates between fidonet and usenet. Problem is, someone else is already gating this echo. The last thing I want to do is cause a whole bunch of dupes.

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Hmmm... For myself, I thought this was the FidoNet CBM Echo. I did not know they were linked together.

It is both. Paul Haydon gates the two.

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Bucko wrote:

Actually, he is posting his messages on FidoNet, someone is

crossposting

the messages from the Commodore Echo on FidoNet to the Usenet

Ah, ok, I was sort of close maybe. ;-) It's been a while before I've
been a user/co-sysop of a BBS so I don't remember all the message base
nuances of such things.

Frank Linhares wrote:

It's annoying, I know, but it is what it is.

Well, just for us newsreader users, heh. I have to say though, it's
good to see the additional traffic in comp.sys.cbm as it's making
it more active then it has been for a while.

Jason

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Re: Re: C= WiFi Modems
By: Frank Linhares to Bucko on Tue Dec 17 2019 12:09 am

Actually, he is posting his messages on FidoNet, someone is crossposting the messages from the Commodore Echo on FidoNet to the Usenet

I have yet to cross any gate software that will allow usenet msgids to

match

FTN style msgids in order to reference a message you are replying to.

Synchronet's NewsLink module seems to handle these situations just fine.

I'm posting from a bbs to another user on a bbs via Fidonet. He will see that it is a reply and everyone using usenet will see that it is just a message to All.

Nah, just gott use the X-Apparently-To or X-Comment-To header fields.

It's annoying, I know, but it is what it is.

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On Tue 17-Dec-2019 12:09a, Frank Linhares@1:229/101.0 said to Bucko:

I have been working on updating the code of some software that gates between fidonet and usenet. Problem is, someone else is already gating
this echo.

The last thing I want to do is cause a whole bunch of dupes.

I am the developer for C-Net Amiga BBS and that is what Gary is posting from. As part of the C-Net software there is a tosser for FTN. Perhaps, I can format something in the FTN packet that will not cause problems with FTN, but will allow news readers to pickup the messages as responses.

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Synchronet's NewsLink module seems to handle these situations just fine.

I stand corrected. I was referring to the older standalone gate software like soupgate and gigo.

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I am the developer for C-Net Amiga BBS and that is what Gary is posting from. As part of the C-Net software there is a tosser for FTN. Perhaps,
I can format something in the FTN packet that will not cause problems
with FTN, but will allow news readers to pickup the messages as
responses.

That would work if you were gating the echo, but Paul is the one who gates it and he is using Soupgate which is the culprit here.

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Re: Re: C= WiFi Modems
By: Frank Linhares to Rob Swindell on Tue Dec 17 2019 02:55 pm

Synchronet's NewsLink module seems to handle these situations just fine.

I stand corrected. I was referring to the older standalone gate software like soupgate and gigo.

Ah, okay, no problem.

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On Tuesday December 17, 2019, Rob Swindell said to Frank Linhares...

Nah, just gott use the X-Apparently-To or X-Comment-To header fields.

Thanks for that. I have updated Fidogate to use those. Now to find a usenet group I can use to test it.

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On Tue 17-Dec-2019 2:55p, Frank Linhares@1:229/101.0 said to K-Guide:

That would work if you were gating the echo, but Paul is the one who gates it and he is using Soupgate which is the culprit here.

I figured that was the case, but was hoping I could slip something into the packets that would traverse FTN and then get picked up by the either the newsgroup or gate software that would allow the response to be linked properly.

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On Tue 17-Dec-2019 12:09a, Frank Linhares@1:229/101.0 said to Bucko:

I have yet to cross any gate software that will allow usenet msgids to match
FTN style msgids in order to reference a message you are replying to.

I'm posting from a bbs to another user on a bbs via Fidonet. He will see that
it is a reply and everyone using usenet will see that it is just a message to
All.

It's annoying, I know, but it is what it is.

I have been working on updating the code of some software that gates between
fidonet and usenet. Problem is, someone else is already gating this echo. The
last thing I want to do is cause a whole bunch of dupes.

Actually, I was replying to someone who said they were reading these messages on usenet. I like you am replying to this message from a BBS on Fido...

Go figure?!?!

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So, lets get back on topic. Who has a C64 and a WiFi modem? What boards do you call? What term program do you use?

Mine came with some pre-set speed dial boards. I did a ATDS0, ADTS1 etc and was connected to some boards.

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I use my WiFi modem to call theWrong Number Image 3 BBS, Rat's Den II Image 1.3
BBS and 13th Floor Image 1.3 BBS. There was a C-Net or 2 BBS I used to call, but they have not been answering as of late.

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I figured that was the case, but was hoping I could slip something into the packets that would traverse FTN and then get picked up by the either the newsgroup or gate software that would allow the response to be
linked properly.

On a side note, is C-Net ready for public consumption yet? I've been running Zeus on my 4000 for quite a while now and I think it is time for a change. I like what has been happening with the development and would love to run it.

I am also spinning up my old 64 board and I understand that you are working
on C-Net for the 64 as well.

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On Wed 18-Dec-2019 9:34p, Frank Linhares@1:229/101.0 said to K-Guide:

On a side note, is C-Net ready for public consumption yet? I've been running Zeus on my 4000 for quite a while now and I think it is time for
a change. I like what has been happening with the development and would love to run it.

C-Net Amiga BBS has a solid release version and there is a new release comming real soon. So if wanna run C-Net Amiga just login to Future World II BBS and create an account and leave me feedback about it.

Future World II BBS
Telnet: fw2.cnetbbs.net Port: 6800

I am also spinning up my old 64 board and I understand that you are
working on C-Net for the 64 as well.

Yes but that was put on hold until I can get this latest C-Net Amiga Release out. Then I will pick that back up.

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