• Ravioli was: Delivery

    From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri May 17 17:32:22 2024
    Hi Dave,


    I've quit making my own sauce. I buy a decent quality jarred sauce and "tart it up" to my liking. When I was younger I used to do the
    "all-day" marinara/gravy. Starting with fresh tomatoes. No longer.

    I don't start with fresh tomatoes but I do usually cook it for a couple
    of hours, minimum. Basically tomato paste/sauce, water, garlic (powder
    or fresh, oregano, basil, parsley, salt and pepper. Basic recipe from
    my MIL, tinkered with off and on over the last 49 years.


    Title: Classic Marinara Sauce
    Categories: Vegetables, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 3 1/2 cups

    Each cook has his or her own way of making it; I play around using my
    MIL's recipe as a starting point but not always making it "by the book"
    twice successively.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri May 17 17:35:43 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Brute force generally doesn't win the day. Cleverness and subtlety can
    go a long toward assuring a desiered outcome. Bv)=

    Most of the time, yes, but there are some people that don't respond
    well to that and brute force is the only thing that will work.

    There's always one whose mantra is "My mind's made up. Don't try to
    cofuse me with the facts."

    Sadly, more than one of those in this world.

    Then the milk man suggested my folks buy 5 gallon boxes (milk was in a

    OY! That was the same size as they deliver to food service places to
    put in their milk dispensers. We never got those. But we did get 1
    gallon cartons ... which were enough of a bear for kidlets to handle.

    Saved having to have fridge space for so many bottles or cartons. When
    my folks had to buy milk at the grocery store, they'd go for the gallon jugs, even for just the 2 of them. Guess they got used to having big containers of milk on hand. (G)

    You don't rewind far enough to remember having an honest to actual ice
    box .... with daily ice deliveries. My grandparents had one at the
    farm and on e in town. Then they got a GE Monitor Top (with the works
    on top of the box) refrigerator .... no more worries about overflowing catch pans, etc.

    No, that was before my time. Oldest fridge we ever had (in a rental) had
    no shelves in the door, freezer had a shelf underneath to hold one ice
    tray, freezer itself wasn't much wider, a bit taller and deeper, but not
    much. I always said that it held only one 12 oz can of orange juice concentrate. Landlord let us buy our ouw frdge, found our $50. "wonder"
    fridge at a yard sale. Wondered how old it was, manufacturer, how long
    it would last, etc. Lasted "as is" about 6 years, quit working about 3
    weeks before Steve went active duty so he jury rigged it to work again &
    it was still running when we closed the door to start our move.


    We're going to be in an Amish region for the next week; Steve was
    noticing all the cheese places when he checked out the area on line earlier today.

    It took me some time before I realised that Amish and Pennsylvania
    Dutch were nearly identical cuisines. Bv)=

    Because they are one and the same, Pennsylvania Dutch being the
    umbrella term for the Amish, Mennonite and other sects of similar persuasion.

    Mennonite - Amish with a car.

    We're seeing a lot of bikes, both electric and old fashioned pedal
    power, around here. It's very hilly country so the electric bikes are
    much more practical.

    I've thought about getting one of those w/a solar charger. Then my
    mind reminds me that I quit the motorcycles because of the idjits in
    cars and pick-em-ups who can't seem to see anything smaller than a Greyhound bus.

    I'd be hesitant to use a bike now.

    Thank providence that allergy missed me. I really likes me strawbs.

    I don't have any food allergies, just some strong dislikes.
    Strawberries are not in that grouping tho.

    I don't have room on my tiny lot for a strawberry bed. Or
    black/raspberry bushes. Ah, well ..........

    Sigh!


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sun May 19 06:12:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Hi Dave,

    I've quit making my own sauce. I buy a decent quality jarred sauce and "tart it up" to my liking. When I was younger I used to do the
    "all-day" marinara/gravy. Starting with fresh tomatoes. No longer.

    I don't start with fresh tomatoes but I do usually cook it for a couple
    of hours, minimum. Basically tomato paste/sauce, water, garlic (powder
    or fresh, oregano, basil, parsley, salt and pepper. Basic recipe from
    my MIL, tinkered with off and on over the last 49 years.

    Title: Classic Marinara Sauce
    Categories: Vegetables, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 3 1/2 cups

    Each cook has his or her own way of making it; I play around using my MIL's recipe as a starting point but not always making it "by the book" twice successively.

    I usually have a way I want to dish to taste. So I modify on the fly to
    try to achieve that flavour. I will sometimes eat a restaurant verion
    of a dish before trying to make it at home. Just (I tell myself) as a benchmark.

    I freaked out my hosemate yesterday at supper. I had stopped at Humphrey's
    deli to pick up a half-pound of chicken livers and some pre-cut muskmelon
    for my lunch whe I saw the meat department has chuck-eye steaks on special offer @ U$6.99 lb. I couldn't pass that by. 3 of the 1# steaks are sucky
    bagged in the freezer and I fixed/grilled the other (after halving it) w/lemon-pepper amd some basil and rigani.

    Did "baked" potatoes in the microwave and a nice side salad. When I set
    it in front of Dennis ha said "I'm not hungey". But I noticed there was
    nothing but bare plates at clean-up time. Bv)=

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sun May 19 06:38:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    You don't rewind far enough to remember having an honest to actual ice
    box .... with daily ice deliveries. My grandparents had one at the
    farm and on e in town. Then they got a GE Monitor Top (with the works
    on top of the box) refrigerator .... no more worries about overflowing catch pans, etc.

    No, that was before my time. Oldest fridge we ever had (in a rental)
    had no shelves in the door, freezer had a shelf underneath to hold one
    ice tray, freezer itself wasn't much wider, a bit taller and deeper,
    but not much. I always said that it held only one 12 oz can of orange juice concentrate. Landlord let us buy our ouw frdge, found our $50. "wonder" fridge at a yard sale. Wondered how old it was, manufacturer,
    how long it would last, etc. Lasted "as is" about 6 years, quit working about 3 weeks before Steve went active duty so he jury rigged it to
    work again & it was still running when we closed the door to start our move.

    My grand's second fridge was sorta like that. The freezer was wide enough
    for two ice trays though. It was about twn inches by ten inches and was
    the "business end" of the refrigerator. And was NOT self defrosting.

    We've come a long way since then. Thanks be to the engineers ... and
    Betty White. Bv)=

    8<----- OOPS ----->8

    We're seeing a lot of bikes, both electric and old fashioned pedal
    power, around here. It's very hilly country so the electric bikes are
    much more practical.

    I've thought about getting one of those w/a solar charger. Then my
    mind reminds me that I quit the motorcycles because of the idjits in
    cars and pick-em-ups who can't seem to see anything smaller than a Greyhound bus.

    I'd be hesitant to use a bike now.

    Drivers seem more interested in their phones than in traffic around them.
    I'm surprised there are so few car-bike accidents - especially as many
    cyclists INSIST on riding on the wrong side of the road - facing traffic.
    In my state the law is bicicles go with the traffic and pedestrians walk facing the oncoming juggernauts.

    Thank providence that allergy missed me. I really likes me strawbs.

    I don't have any food allergies, just some strong dislikes.
    Strawberries are not in that grouping tho.

    I don't have room on my tiny lot for a strawberry bed. Or
    black/raspberry bushes. Ah, well ..........

    Sigh!

    Late news - Burpee offers some thornless blackberry bushes that will
    fit in front of the fence dividing my front and side yard areas. Still
    nothing positive on the srrawberries.

    I made this for my friends Les & Sara uning bought (Crate & Barrel)
    berries and ALDI's Deutsche Kuche noodles. Sara (who is very strictly
    Kosher) asked if if I was sure I was Jewish. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Blackberry Noodle Kugel
    Categories: Desserts, Fruits, Pasta, Puddings
    Yield: 10 Servings

    4 c Blackberries
    1 c Apple juice
    12 oz Wide flat egg noodles
    1/4 lb Unsalted butter; melted
    1 1/4 c Sugar
    3 lg Eggs; lightly beaten
    1/8 c Ground cinnamon

    Oven: 375øF/190øC

    Brush a 7" x 11" or 9" x 13" baking pan with 1 tbsp of
    the butter. In a large pot of salted boiling water,
    cook noodles til al dente, about 10 minutes; drain in
    a colander.

    In a large mixing bowl, combine drained noodles,
    remaining butter, and sugar, apple juice and berries.
    Mix in eggs. Transfer to prepared baking dish.

    Sprinkle generously with cinnamon. Bake until golden
    brown and crisp on top, about 30 minutes.

    Serves: 10

    From the recipe files of Carole Walberg

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun May 19 19:53:37 2024
    Hi Dave,


    I usually have a way I want to dish to taste. So I modify on the fly
    to try to achieve that flavour. I will sometimes eat a restaurant
    verion
    of a dish before trying to make it at home. Just (I tell myself) as a benchmark.

    We've done that. Case in point, years ago when we were in Germany we had something called Goulash Soup (I'll look up the recipe and post it.) a
    couple of times. Started analysing it the second time, a few weeks later
    I was in the Stars and Stripes bookstore. Saw a German cookbook so I
    started browsing it, found a recipe for Goulash Soup. We were pretty
    much spot on with the ingredients, missed a couple of minor ones. Bought
    the book and have made the soup a number of times since.


    I freaked out my hosemate yesterday at supper. I had stopped at
    Humphrey's deli to pick up a half-pound of chicken livers and some
    pre-cut muskmelon for my lunch whe I saw the meat department has
    chuck-eye steaks on special offer @ U$6.99 lb. I couldn't pass that
    by. 3 of the 1# steaks are sucky bagged in the freezer and I
    fixed/grilled the other (after halving it)
    w/lemon-pepper amd some basil and rigani.

    Sounds good. We try to catch deals like that when we can and add them to
    our freezer also. Didn't buy a lot of meat this past year but still have
    a good amount in the freezer.

    Did "baked" potatoes in the microwave and a nice side salad. When I
    set it in front of Dennis ha said "I'm not hungey". But I noticed
    there was nothing but bare plates at clean-up time. Bv)=

    Nothing left for the dogs?

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun May 19 20:01:53 2024
    Hi Dave,


    You don't rewind far enough to remember having an honest to actual ice
    box .... with daily ice deliveries. My grandparents had one at the
    farm and on e in town. Then they got a GE Monitor Top (with the works
    on top of the box) refrigerator .... no more worries about overflowing catch pans, etc.

    No, that was before my time. Oldest fridge we ever had (in a rental)
    had no shelves in the door, freezer had a shelf underneath to hold one
    ice tray, freezer itself wasn't much wider, a bit taller and deeper,
    but not much. I always said that it held only one 12 oz can of orange juice concentrate. Landlord let us buy our ouw frdge, found our $50. "wonder" fridge at a yard sale. Wondered how old it was, manufacturer,
    how long it would last, etc. Lasted "as is" about 6 years, quit working about 3 weeks before Steve went active duty so he jury rigged it to
    work again & it was still running when we closed the door to start our move.

    My grand's second fridge was sorta like that. The freezer was wide
    enough for two ice trays though. It was about twn inches by ten inches
    and was the "business end" of the refrigerator. And was NOT self defrosting.

    I've defrosted many a fridge in my time--and appreciate the self
    defrosting ones.


    We're seeing a lot of bikes, both electric and old fashioned pedal
    power, around here. It's very hilly country so the electric bikes are
    much more practical.

    I've thought about getting one of those w/a solar charger. Then my
    mind reminds me that I quit the motorcycles because of the idjits in
    cars and pick-em-ups who can't seem to see anything smaller than a Greyhound bus.

    I'd be hesitant to use a bike now.

    Drivers seem more interested in their phones than in traffic around
    them. I'm surprised there are so few car-bike accidents - especially
    as many
    cyclists INSIST on riding on the wrong side of the road - facing
    traffic. In my state the law is bicicles go with the traffic and pedestrians walk facing the oncoming juggernauts.

    Basically the same in all 50, IIRC.

    Thank providence that allergy missed me. I really likes me strawbs.

    I don't have any food allergies, just some strong dislikes.
    Strawberries are not in that grouping tho.

    I don't have room on my tiny lot for a strawberry bed. Or
    black/raspberry bushes. Ah, well ..........

    Sigh!

    We picked up a couple more boxes of strawberries in our first shopping
    trip after getting home. Might do a fresh strawberry pie, left over
    combine with rhubarb for another pie.


    Late news - Burpee offers some thornless blackberry bushes that will
    fit in front of the fence dividing my front and side yard areas. Still nothing positive on the srrawberries.

    Steve just picked some fresh peas from what he planted in our small
    raised bed earlier this year. Starting to be the time of year when we'll
    be eating a lot of fresh fruits and vegetables.


    I made this for my friends Les & Sara uning bought (Crate & Barrel) berries and ALDI's Deutsche Kuche noodles. Sara (who is very strictly Kosher) asked if if I was sure I was Jewish. Bv)=

    Title: Blackberry Noodle Kugel DD> Categories: Desserts,
    Fruits, Pasta, Puddings DD> Yield: 10 Servings

    Looks good--and you don't have to be Jewish to cook good Jewish food, especially if you remember the dietary restrictions. Since you used
    butter, was the wedding/reception dairy based (no meat)?

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Mon May 20 19:10:13 2024
    Re: Ravioli
    By: Ruth Haffly to Dave Drum on Sun May 19 2024 07:53 pm

    Hi Dave,


    I usually have a way I want to dish to taste. So I modify on the fly
    to try to achieve that flavour. I will sometimes eat a restaurant verion
    of a dish before trying to make it at home. Just (I tell myself) as a benchmark.

    We've done that. Case in point, years ago when we were in Germany we had something called Goulash Soup (I'll look up the recipe and post it.) a couple of times. Started analysing it the second time, a few weeks later
    I was in the Stars and Stripes bookstore. Saw a German cookbook so I
    started browsing it, found a recipe for Goulash Soup. We were pretty
    much spot on with the ingredients, missed a couple of minor ones. Bought
    the book and have made the soup a number of times since.


    I freaked out my hosemate yesterday at supper. I had stopped at Humphrey's deli to pick up a half-pound of chicken livers and some pre-cut muskmelon for my lunch whe I saw the meat department has chuck-eye steaks on special offer @ U$6.99 lb. I couldn't pass that
    by. 3 of the 1# steaks are sucky bagged in the freezer and I fixed/grilled the other (after halving it)
    w/lemon-pepper amd some basil and rigani.

    Sounds good. We try to catch deals like that when we can and add them to
    our freezer also. Didn't buy a lot of meat this past year but still have
    a good amount in the freezer.

    Did "baked" potatoes in the microwave and a nice side salad. When I
    set it in front of Dennis ha said "I'm not hungey". But I noticed
    there was nothing but bare plates at clean-up time. Bv)=

    Nothing left for the dogs?


    Oh, my poor Dog Jack! He's rescue and apparently never had a dental. 5 teeth extracted (1,149$!!). He's almost 9 and had to be done, but gosh, even the cat is being nice to him today.

    xxcarol
    --- SBBSecho 2.11-Win32
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Tue May 21 06:12:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    My grand's second fridge was sorta like that. The freezer was wide
    enough for two ice trays though. It was about twn inches by ten inches
    and was the "business end" of the refrigerator. And was NOT self defrosting.

    I've defrosted many a fridge in my time--and appreciate the self defrosting ones.

    I know. I screwed up when I let the sale price of my upright freezer
    blind me to the fact that it's not "frost free". If I hit a winner on
    the lottery (not the grand prize but a nice hit) I'll replace it with
    a self-defroster. It's a genuine PITA doing that every couple months.
    Even if I use a heat gun (hair dryer on steroids) to speed things up.

    We're seeing a lot of bikes, both electric and old fashioned pedal
    power, around here. It's very hilly country so the electric bikes are
    much more practical.

    I've thought about getting one of those w/a solar charger. Then my
    mind reminds me that I quit the motorcycles because of the idjits in
    cars and pick-em-ups who can't seem to see anything smaller than a Greyhound bus.

    I'd be hesitant to use a bike now.

    Drivers seem more interested in their phones than in traffic around
    them. I'm surprised there are so few car-bike accidents - especially
    as many
    cyclists INSIST on riding on the wrong side of the road - facing
    traffic. In my state the law is bicicles go with the traffic and pedestrians walk facing the oncoming juggernauts.

    Basically the same in all 50, IIRC.

    I think so. But, some doofuses insist on going against the grain.

    Thank providence that allergy missed me. I really likes me strawbs.

    I don't have any food allergies, just some strong dislikes.
    Strawberries are not in that grouping tho.

    I don't have room on my tiny lot for a strawberry bed. Or
    black/raspberry bushes. Ah, well ..........

    Sigh!

    We picked up a couple more boxes of strawberries in our first shopping trip after getting home. Might do a fresh strawberry pie, left over combine with rhubarb for another pie.

    I like strawberry pie. And I like rhubarb pie (note to self - get some
    rhubarb starts for the side of the house) But, I abhor strawberry-rhubarb
    pie.

    Late news - Burpee offers some thornless blackberry bushes that will
    fit in front of the fence dividing my front and side yard areas. Still nothing positive on the srrawberries.

    Steve just picked some fresh peas from what he planted in our small
    raised bed earlier this year. Starting to be the time of year when
    we'll be eating a lot of fresh fruits and vegetables.

    I made this for my friends Les & Sara using bought (Crate & Barrel) berries and ALDI's Deutsche Kuche noodles. Sara (who is very strictly Kosher) asked if if I was sure I was Jewish. Bv)=

    Title: Blackberry Noodle Kugel DD> Categories: Desserts,
    Fruits, Pasta, Puddings DD> Yield: 10 Servings

    Looks good--and you don't have to be Jewish to cook good Jewish food, especially if you remember the dietary restrictions. Since you used butter, was the wedding/reception dairy based (no meat)?

    Desserts/snacks/finger foods only. Oddly, Les is like me with keeping
    Kosher. Don't serve the Rabbi pork chops or catfish. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Deep-Dish Rhubarb Pie
    Categories: Pies, Pastry, Desserts
    Yield: 6 Servings

    3/4 c Sugar
    1/3 c Flour; sifted
    1 ts Ground cinnamon
    1/2 ts Ground cloves
    1 2/3 lb Fresh rhubarb
    2 tb Butter

    MMMMM----------------------FLAKY PASTRY II---------------------------
    1 1/2 c Flour; sifted
    1 ts Salt
    1/2 c Lard
    4 tb Ice water; approx
    Milk or cream
    Sugar

    Sift flour & salt into a med. bowl; cut in lard with a
    fork or pastry blender until mixture is crumbly.

    Sprinkle cold water over mixture, 1 tb at a time; mix
    lightly with a fork just until pastry holds together
    and leaves sides of bowl clean. Make a ball; flatten
    it. Wrap dough in plastic and store in refrigerator
    until ready for use.

    Mix sugar, flour, cinnamon, and cloves in a bowl.

    Wash rhubarb; trim ends; cut into 1" pieces (You
    should have 10 cups). Place in a large bowl.

    Sprinkle with sugar mixture; toss lightly to mix.
    Let stand 15 minutes. Toss again.

    Spoon rhubarb filling into an 8" x 8" x 2" baking
    dish; dot with butter.

    Prepare pastry. Roll out to a 10" square on a lightly
    floured surface. Cut in 1/2" with a pastry wheel or
    knife. Weave strips into a lattice. Cover filling.
    Turn ends under just enough so that strips touch sides
    of baking dish. Brush lattice top with milk or cream;
    sprinkle with sugar.

    Bake in hot oven (425oF/220oC) for 40 minutes, until
    pastry is golden and juices bubble up. Cool. Serve
    warm with vanilla ice cream, if you wish.

    Family Circle All-Time Baking Favorites; 1974

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Tue May 21 06:32:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I usually have a way I want to dish to taste. So I modify on the fly
    to try to achieve that flavour. I will sometimes eat a restaurant
    verion of a dish before trying to make it at home. Just (I tell
    myself) as a benchmark.

    We've done that. Case in point, years ago when we were in Germany we
    had something called Goulash Soup (I'll look up the recipe and post
    it.) a couple of times. Started analysing it the second time, a few
    weeks later I was in the Stars and Stripes bookstore. Saw a German cookbook so I started browsing it, found a recipe for Goulash Soup. We were pretty much spot on with the ingredients, missed a couple of minor ones. Bought the book and have made the soup a number of times since.

    Somehow I always thought of goulash as a Hungarian dish. I have a couple recipes for Hungarian grub (Juune Meyer's cookbook in hardback)

    I freaked out my hosemate yesterday at supper. I had stopped at
    Humphrey's deli to pick up a half-pound of chicken livers and some
    pre-cut muskmelon for my lunch whe I saw the meat department has
    chuck-eye steaks on special offer @ U$6.99 lb. I couldn't pass that
    by. 3 of the 1# steaks are sucky bagged in the freezer and I
    fixed/grilled the other (after halving it)
    w/lemon-pepper amd some basil and rigani.

    Sounds good. We try to catch deals like that when we can and add them
    to our freezer also. Didn't buy a lot of meat this past year but still have a good amount in the freezer.

    Did "baked" potatoes in the microwave and a nice side salad. When I
    set it in front of Dennis ha said "I'm not hungey". But I noticed
    there was nothing but bare plates at clean-up time. Bv)=

    Nothing left for the dogs?

    He gives the mooches treats from his plate - which I never do. Although
    I'll let them pre-wash the plate/bowl when I'm finished. Bv)=

    This is a June Meyer recipe. The basic ingredients (beef, vegetabls) are
    the same as for her family's Gulyas (goulash). And it is served differenly
    (as a meal not just a single course) from what we're used to.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: June Meyer's Authentic Hungarian Beef Soup
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Potatoes
    Yield: 5 servings

    2 lb Beef chuck; in one piece
    5 qt Cold water
    3 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Black pepper corns
    6 Whole carrots; cleaned
    3 Ribs celery; cut in half
    3 Parsley root; peeled, cut in
    - half, w/parsley greens
    2 Parsnips; peeled, cut in
    - half
    3 md Onions; washed, unpeeled
    6 Whole cloves
    3 lg Potatos; peeled, halved

    Sear meat in pot. (This gives greater flavor and color)

    Cover with water. Let it come to a boil and skim the
    foam off.

    Add salt, pepper corns, and let simmer for 1 hour.

    Stick 2 cloves into each onion.

    Add the carrots, celery, parsley root and greens,
    parsnips and onions.

    Cover and simmer slowly for about 2 hours.

    Add potatos last hour of cooking.

    Serve strained soup broth with drained cooked egg
    noodles. Arrange vegetables and meat on serving platter.
    Serve meat and vegetables with Sour Cream and
    Horseradish Sauce, Tomato Sauce or Dill Sauce.

    Add some crusty bread and enjoy a wonderful meal.

    Serves 4 to 6.

    NOTES: This is a traditional winter soup. It is served
    in three courses. First the broth is served with fine or
    broad egg noodles. Then the meat and vegetables are
    served along with a cold sourcream and horse-radish
    sauce. This is a slow cooking soup, that tastes
    wonderful. It is worth the time it takes. It makes a
    cold winter day cosy. This serves a family.

    Regards, June Meyer.

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.junemeyer.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Wed May 22 06:20:54 2024
    Quoting Dave Drum to Ruth Haffly <=-

    a self-defroster. It's a genuine PITA doing that every couple months.
    Even if I use a heat gun (hair dryer on steroids) to speed things up.

    Our chest freezer (Apt size) is supposed to be a self-defroster but I
    guess over the years it gave that part of it's life up.

    We ate most of it down, this weekend I'll take the rest of the stuff I
    want to keep to the trailer's freezer and unplug the thing to melt away.

    I say that... but I probably won't. ;)

    Shawn

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Tue May 21 11:37:02 2024
    Hi Carol,

    I freaked out my hosemate yesterday at supper. I had stopped at Humphrey's deli to pick up a half-pound of chicken livers and some pre-cut muskmelon for my lunch whe I saw the meat department has chuck-eye steaks on special offer @ U$6.99 lb. I couldn't pass that
    by. 3 of the 1# steaks are sucky bagged in the freezer and I fixed/grilled the other (after halving it)
    w/lemon-pepper amd some basil and rigani.

    Sounds good. We try to catch deals like that when we can and add them to
    our freezer also. Didn't buy a lot of meat this past year but still have
    a good amount in the freezer.

    Did "baked" potatoes in the microwave and a nice side salad. When I
    set it in front of Dennis ha said "I'm not hungey". But I noticed
    there was nothing but bare plates at clean-up time. Bv)=

    Nothing left for the dogs?

    Oh, my poor Dog Jack! He's rescue and apparently never had a dental.
    5 teeth extracted (1,149$!!). He's almost 9 and had to be done, but
    gosh, even the cat is being nice to him today.

    Poor puppy! No more gnawing on rawhide treats, pig's ears (that was
    Sam's--our cocker spaniel--favorite) and so on. Hopefully he has enough
    teeth yet that he can crunch on dry foods; the idea of wet dog food for
    the rest of his life is probably not very appealing.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue May 21 11:59:02 2024
    Hi Dave,

    I've defrosted many a fridge in my time--and appreciate the self defrosting ones.

    I know. I screwed up when I let the sale price of my upright freezer
    blind me to the fact that it's not "frost free". If I hit a winner on
    the lottery (not the grand prize but a nice hit) I'll replace it with
    a self-defroster. It's a genuine PITA doing that every couple months.
    Even if I use a heat gun (hair dryer on steroids) to speed things up.

    My mom used to put a pot of water on the stove, bring it to a boil, then
    put it in the freezer for maybe 20 minutes to start loosening things up.
    I did the same initially, then sometimes grabbed a blow dryer and set it
    on high........


    Drivers seem more interested in their phones than in traffic around
    them. I'm surprised there are so few car-bike accidents - especially
    as many
    cyclists INSIST on riding on the wrong side of the road - facing
    traffic. In my state the law is bicicles go with the traffic and pedestrians walk facing the oncoming juggernauts.

    Basically the same in all 50, IIRC.

    I think so. But, some doofuses insist on going against the grain.

    Yes, I've seen that more times than I'd like to have.


    We picked up a couple more boxes of strawberries in our first shopping trip after getting home. Might do a fresh strawberry pie, left over combine with rhubarb for another pie.

    I like strawberry pie. And I like rhubarb pie (note to self - get some rhubarb starts for the side of the house) But, I abhor
    strawberry-rhubarb pie.

    Late news - Burpee offers some thornless blackberry bushes that will
    fit in front of the fence dividing my front and side yard areas. Still nothing positive on the srrawberries.

    Steve just picked some fresh peas from what he planted in our small
    raised bed earlier this year. Starting to be the time of year when
    we'll be eating a lot of fresh fruits and vegetables.

    I made this for my friends Les & Sara using bought (Crate & Barrel) berries and ALDI's Deutsche Kuche noodles. Sara (who is very strictly Kosher) asked if if I was sure I was Jewish. Bv)=

    Title: Blackberry Noodle Kugel DD> Categories: Desserts,
    Fruits, Pasta, Puddings DD> Yield: 10 Servings

    Looks good--and you don't have to be Jewish to cook good Jewish food, especially if you remember the dietary restrictions. Since you used butter, was the wedding/reception dairy based (no meat)?

    Desserts/snacks/finger foods only. Oddly, Les is like me with keeping Kosher. Don't serve the Rabbi pork chops or catfish. Bv)=

    Or shellfish.

    Title: Deep-Dish Rhubarb Pie
    Categories: Pies, Pastry, Desserts
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Looks good, this is about the time of year when fresh rhubarb is
    available. My dad used to keep a patch of it in his garden and every
    year about this time, mom would make pie.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue May 21 12:05:46 2024
    Hi Dave,


    We've done that. Case in point, years ago when we were in Germany we
    had something called Goulash Soup (I'll look up the recipe and post
    it.) a couple of times. Started analysing it the second time, a few
    weeks later I was in the Stars and Stripes bookstore. Saw a German cookbook so I started browsing it, found a recipe for Goulash Soup. We were pretty much spot on with the ingredients, missed a couple of minor ones. Bought the book and have made the soup a number of times since.

    Somehow I always thought of goulash as a Hungarian dish. I have a
    couple recipes for Hungarian grub (Juune Meyer's cookbook in hardback)

    This is goulash soup--no pasta in it, just meat, peppers, onion, tomato
    and seasoning.

    Did "baked" potatoes in the microwave and a nice side salad. When I
    set it in front of Dennis ha said "I'm not hungey". But I noticed
    there was nothing but bare plates at clean-up time. Bv)=

    Nothing left for the dogs?

    He gives the mooches treats from his plate - which I never do.
    Although I'll let them pre-wash the plate/bowl when I'm finished.
    Bv)=

    I never fed animals from the table either but my dad, and Steve, did.


    This is a June Meyer recipe. The basic ingredients (beef, vegetabls)
    are the same as for her family's Gulyas (goulash). And it is served differenly (as a meal not just a single course) from what we're used
    to.


    Title: June Meyer's Authentic Hungarian Beef Soup
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Potatoes
    Yield: 5 servings


    NOTES: This is a traditional winter soup. It is served
    in three courses. First the broth is served with fine or
    broad egg noodles. Then the meat and vegetables are
    served along with a cold sourcream and horse-radish
    sauce. This is a slow cooking soup, that tastes
    wonderful. It is worth the time it takes. It makes a
    cold winter day cosy. This serves a family.

    I only count two courses--broth with noodles, then meat and vegetables.
    It does look good, no matter how you count it tho.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to RUTH HAFFLY on Thu May 23 06:30:00 2024
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Dave Drum <=-

    Looks good, this is about the time of year when fresh rhubarb is available. My dad used to keep a patch of it in his garden and every
    year about this time, mom would make pie.

    I love rhubarb pie, Andrea hates pastry. I don't often make it anymore
    for that reason... I did get some rhubarb from a friend so I chucked it
    in the freezer for now and one day I'll make a pie have a slice and if
    my kid won't take the rest I'll chuck it.

    That's why I don't make pie often anymore.

    Shawn

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Shawn Highfield on Thu May 23 06:11:03 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    a self-defroster. It's a genuine PITA doing that every couple months.
    Even if I use a heat gun (hair dryer on steroids) to speed things up.

    Our chest freezer (Apt size) is supposed to be a self-defroster but I guess over the years it gave that part of it's life up.

    We ate most of it down, this weekend I'll take the rest of the stuff I want to keep to the trailer's freezer and unplug the thing to melt
    away.

    I say that... but I probably won't. ;)

    I just bought, from Best Buy, an "open box" house brand freezer that
    has self-defrost. Just have to wait for it to get shipped via company
    truck, to my local store, then to me. I'll move my current Mr. Frosty
    unit to the garage to use for long term stoage. If you're not in it
    every day it takes a lot longer to ice up.

    The freezer unit on my ice box is a self-defroster and I use it to store
    bits and pices of leftover supper vegetables until I have enough for a
    nice pot of vegetable soup. Never twice the same .... Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dave's Freezer Vegetable-Beef Soup
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Potatoes
    Yield: 9 Servings

    1 Can (or 2) frozen left-over
    - vegetables; corn, peas,
    - green beans, carrots, and/
    - or broccoli/cauliflower
    2 Sliced carrots; if needed
    3 Ribs celery w/tops; sliced
    2 md Onions; diced
    2 md Potatoes; peeled, diced 1/4"
    14 oz Can diced tomatoes;
    - undrained
    3 c Water
    1 ts Salt
    4 Cracked peppercorns
    1 lb Leftover beef; diced small
    3 ts GFS/Minor's beef base

    Take the container(s) of left-over vegetables from the
    freezer and put into a 5 (or so) quart crock-pot.

    While the pot is melting the frozen ingredients prepare
    the carrots, celery, onion, and 'taters. Add to the pot.

    Open the can of tomatoes, pour over other ingredients
    in the crock-pot.

    Heat the water to a simmer, add the beef, beef base and
    salt/pepper, stirring well until beef base is dissolved
    and all is well combined. Remove from heat and pour
    over crock-pot ingredients.

    Cover and cook for 3 to 4 hours (high) or 6 to 8 hours
    (low)

    Serves six to twelve servings

    NOTE: I save bits and bobs of leftover veg in a washed
    and cleaned tomato juice can, covering each addition
    with water and freezing as I go. When I have a can (or
    two) full I am ready to make this soup.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Thu May 23 06:44:05 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I've defrosted many a fridge in my time--and appreciate the self defrosting ones.

    I know. I screwed up when I let the sale price of my upright freezer
    blind me to the fact that it's not "frost free". If I hit a winner on
    the lottery (not the grand prize but a nice hit) I'll replace it with
    a self-defroster. It's a genuine PITA doing that every couple months.
    Even if I use a heat gun (hair dryer on steroids) to speed things up.

    My mom used to put a pot of water on the stove, bring it to a boil,
    then put it in the freezer for maybe 20 minutes to start loosening
    things up. I did the same initially, then sometimes grabbed a blow
    dryer and set it on high........

    As I told Shawn in another post in this packet - I've bought another
    freezer of the same size fro Best Buy's open box offerngs. It's a self defroster - so the current guy will soon live in the garage.

    Drivers seem more interested in their phones than in tr
    We picked up a couple more boxes of strawberries in our first shopping trip after getting home. Might do a fresh strawberry pie, left over combine with rhubarb for another pie.

    I like strawberry pie. And I like rhubarb pie (note to self - get some rhubarb starts for the side of the house) But, I abhor
    strawberry-rhubarb pie.

    Late news - Burpee offers some thornless blackberry bushes that will
    fit in front of the fence dividing my front and side yard areas. Still nothing positive on the srrawberries.

    Steve just picked some fresh peas from what he planted in our small
    raised bed earlier this year. Starting to be the time of year when
    we'll be eating a lot of fresh fruits and vegetables.

    You season starts a lot earlier than mine does. This year's garden will
    be limited to some 'maters and a couuple short-season things like radishes
    and some herbs.

    I made this for my friends Les & Sara using bought (Crate & Barrel) berries and ALDI's Deutsche Kuche noodles. Sara (who is very strictly Kosher) asked if if I was sure I was Jewish. Bv)=

    Title: Blackberry Noodle Kugel DD> Categories: Desserts,
    Fruits, Pasta, Puddings DD> Yield: 10 Servings

    Looks good--and you don't have to be Jewish to cook good Jewish food, especially if you remember the dietary restrictions. Since you used butter, was the wedding/reception dairy based (no meat)?

    Desserts/snacks/finger foods only. Oddly, Les is like me with keeping Kosher. Don't serve the Rabbi pork chops or catfish. Bv)=

    Or shellfish.

    Title: Deep-Dish Rhubarb Pie
    Categories: Pies, Pastry, Desserts
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Looks good, this is about the time of year when fresh rhubarb is available. My dad used to keep a patch of it in his garden and every
    year about this time, mom would make pie.

    Rhubarb doesn't take a lot of tending. Just got to remember not to eat
    the leaves. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Rhubarb Sauce
    Categories: Five, Sauces, Fruits
    Yield: 2 Pints

    2 c Water
    2 c (level) sugar
    3 lb Rhubarb; in 1" pieces

    Make a syrup with the water and sugar. Boil together a
    few minutes.

    Add rhubarb to syrup when it starts boiling in center.
    Watch closely and let boil *JUST* *1* *MINUTE*

    Now here is the trick that makes ordinary rhubarb sauce
    a Sauce Deluxe: Pour into a bowl or pan with a tight
    cover. Leave tightly covered until cold, and you will
    find a sauce very different from any you have ever eaten.

    Good on I scream, panquakes, waffles, toast, biscuits,
    peanut butter sarnies, whatever you care to add it to.

    Originally from Recipes With A History; Yankee Magazine

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Thu May 23 07:00:40 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Somehow I always thought of goulash as a Hungarian dish. I have a
    couple recipes for Hungarian grub (Juune Meyer's cookbook in hardback)

    This is goulash soup--no pasta in it, just meat, peppers, onion, tomato and seasoning.

    Errrrmmmm, lots of soups have pasta. Chicken 'n' Noodle soup f'rinstance.
    Bv)=

    Did "baked" potatoes in the microwave and a nice side salad. When I
    set it in front of Dennis ha said "I'm not hungey". But I noticed
    there was nothing but bare plates at clean-up time. Bv)=

    Nothing left for the dogs?

    He gives the mooches treats from his plate - which I never do.
    Although I'll let them pre-wash the plate/bowl when I'm finished.
    Bv)=

    I never fed animals from the table either but my dad, and Steve, did.

    Doesn't stop them from being in "mooch-a-pooch" mode. Ever the optimists
    these guys always try. Bv)=

    This is a June Meyer recipe. The basic ingredients (beef, vegetabls)
    are the same as for her family's Gulyas (goulash). And it is served differenly (as a meal not just a single course) from what we're used
    to.

    Title: June Meyer's Authentic Hungarian Beef Soup
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Potatoes
    Yield: 5 servings


    NOTES: This is a traditional winter soup. It is served
    in three courses. First the broth is served with fine or
    broad egg noodles. Then the meat and vegetables are
    served along with a cold sourcream and horse-radish
    sauce. This is a slow cooking soup, that tastes
    wonderful. It is worth the time it takes. It makes a
    cold winter day cosy. This serves a family.

    I only count two courses--broth with noodles, then meat and vegetables.
    It does look good, no matter how you count it tho.

    Good catch. I'd not noticed that and I've read (and cooked) that recipe
    several ties.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Multi-grain Dog Kibble
    Categories: Grains, Snacks
    Yield: 20 Cups

    2 c Whole wheat flour
    1 1/2 c A-P unbleached flour
    1/2 c Soy flour
    1 c Cornmeal
    1 c Nonfat dry milk powder
    1 c Rolled oats
    1/2 c Wheat germ
    1/2 c Brewer's yeast
    1 tb Salt
    1 lg Egg
    5 tb Corn oil
    3 c Water

    Set oven @ 350ºF/175ºC and grease two 13" X 9" baking
    sheets.

    In a large mixing bowl, combine whole wheat, all-purpose
    and soy flours, cornmeal, milk powder, oats, brewer's
    yeast, and salt. In a small bowl, combine egg and corn
    oil. Stir water into dry ingredients, then add egg
    mixture, mixing well. The batter will be thin.

    Divide batter between baking sheets, spreading evenly 1/2
    inch thick, as though for pizza. Bake for 45 minutes. Cool
    kibble, then break into small pieces. Store in covered
    container in refrigerator, or divide into individual
    servings, place in freezer bags, and freeze.

    Makes 20 cups kibble.

    From "Bone Appetit!" by Suzan Anson, New Chapter Press

    Posted by Stephen Ceideberg - November 22 1992.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Shawn Highfield on Fri May 24 07:20:25 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to RUTH HAFFLY <=-

    Looks good, this is about the time of year when fresh rhubarb is available. My dad used to keep a patch of it in his garden and every
    year about this time, mom would make pie.

    I love rhubarb pie, Andrea hates pastry. I don't often make it anymore for that reason... I did get some rhubarb from a friend so I chucked it
    in the freezer for now and one day I'll make a pie have a slice and if
    my kid won't take the rest I'll chuck it.

    That's why I don't make pie often anymore.

    Is it the gluten in the crust? Or she's just persnickity? In any event I
    have a solution for you and the kidlet. This works with regular or even
    store bought "ready-to-bake" crust. But the cream-cheeze in the recipe
    is very nice.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Rhubarb Mini Pot Pies
    Categories: Pastry, Fruits, Citrus, Cheese
    Yield: 4 mini-pies

    MMMMM------------------CREAM CHEESE PIE CRUST------------------------
    2 c (10 oz) A-P flour
    2 tb Granulated white sugar
    1/4 ts Baking powder
    1/4 ts Kosher salt
    4 1/2 oz Very cold full-fat cream
    - cheese; in 1" cubes
    3/4 c (6 oz)frozen unsalted butter
    - in 1" cubes
    3 tb Heavy cream
    1 tb Apple cider vinegar

    MMMMM-------------------RHUBARB PIE FILLING--------------------------
    1/2 c (3 1/2 oz) granulated sugar
    Fresh zest from 1 md orange
    1 1/2 lb Rhubarb; trimmed, in 1/2"
    - pieces
    1/4 c (1 oz) cornstarch
    2 tb Fresh squeezed orange juice
    1 Vanilla bean pod

    MMMMM-------------------------ASSEMBLY-------------------------------
    1 lg Egg
    1 ts Water
    Demerara; or other coarse
    - sugar

    MMMMM------------------------EQUIPMENT-------------------------------
    A food processor
    2 1-gallon ea ZipLoc-style
    - resealable food storage
    - bags
    Mini cookie cutters

    FOR THE CREAM CHEESE PIE CRUST: Combine 2 cups A-P flour, 2 tb
    granulated sugar, 1/4 ts baking powder, and 1/4 ts kosher salt in the
    bowl of a food processor; pulse for a few seconds to mix well.

    Add 4 1/2 oz cream cheese and process for about 20 seconds; the mixture
    should resemble coarse meal. Add 3/4 cup frozen butter cubes and pulse
    just until none of them is larger than a pea.

    Add 3 tB heavy cream and 1 tb apple cider vinegar; pulse to process the
    mixture into pea-size pieces. Divide the mixture in half and transfer to
    2 separate 1-gallon resealable plastic food storage bags.

    Working with one bag at a time and leaving it unsealed, knead the
    mixture through the bag by pressing with the heel of your hand to help
    the dough come together. Remove the dough from the bag and knead it
    lightly just until it is slightly stretchy when pulled. Flatten the
    dough into a disk, wrap it in plastic wrap and refrigerate for at least
    45 minutes, preferably overnight.

    FOR THE RHUBARB PIE FILLING: In a medium bowl, combine 1/2 cup
    granulated sugar and zest from 1 medium orange by using your fingers to
    rub the orange zest into the granulated sugar. This will help release
    oils from the zest and fully infuse the sugar with orange flavor. Set
    aside.

    Add 1 1/2 pounds trimmed and sliced rhubarb, 1/4 cup cornstarch, 2 tb
    fresh squeezed orange juice. Toss to combine ingredients until the
    rhubarb is coated. Use the tip of a sharp knife to slice 1 vanilla bean
    pod lengthwise; use the tip of a knife to scrape the vanilla beans over
    the fruit mixture, and toss again to combine.

    ASSEMBLY: Take one of the dough disks and divide into four, even pieces.
    Roll out each piece into a circle slightly larger than your mini pie
    dish (if you're using a shallow mini pie dish, the circle should be 1"
    to 2" larger than the dish; if you're using a deep mini pie dish, the
    circle should be 3" to 4" larger than the dish). These will be the base
    and sides of your crust. Gently nestle each circle into its own pie
    plate, using your hands to gently press the dough against the sides and
    base of the plate.

    Divide the filling between the four lined pie dishes. Take the remaining
    dough disk and roll it out to a rough, 1/4" thick slab. Use mini cookie
    cutters to stamp out shapes for the lid. Arrange the shapes on top of
    the filling. Transfer the pies to the freezer for at least 15 to 20
    minutes, preferably overnight.

    After the pies have frozen, preheat the oven to 425ºF/218ºC. Place a
    baking sheet on the center rack of the oven.

    Remove the pies from the freezer. In a small ramekin, combine 1 large
    egg and 1 teaspoon water and whisk well to make egg wash. Brush with the
    egg wash using a pastry brush, and sprinkle immediately with coarse
    demarara sugar. Place the pies on the baking tray and bake for 15
    minutes, until the pastry is beginning to set and go golden. Reduce the
    temperature to 350ºF/175ºC, and cook for a further 45 minutes or until
    the pastry is a deep golden brown. Remove from the oven and cool
    completely on a wire rack.

    UDD NOTES: This recipe halves very nicely. Just leave the second bag of
    dough in the ice box for next time. If you don't have Kosher salt handy
    a big pinch of regular table salt works. Also, you can use Half & Half
    for the "heavy" cream. If you didn't pick up an actual vanilla bean -
    dump in a short teaspoon of vanilla extract.

    Suit yourself in the shapes for the top. Or do a whole cover with vents
    if you like. Ot get frisky and do a lattice top. Use granulated white
    sugar to sprinkle if you don't stock the hoity-toity demarara sugar.

    I have used recycle Banquet Pot Pie contaners for this recipe. But I
    sucked it up and scored a pair of Anchor- Hocking 6" mini pie dishes
    from Amazon.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.hummingbirdhigh.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to DAVE DRUM on Fri May 24 09:29:00 2024
    Quoting Dave Drum to Shawn Highfield <=-

    I just bought, from Best Buy, an "open box" house brand freezer that
    has self-defrost. Just have to wait for it to get shipped via company truck, to my local store, then to me. I'll move my current Mr. Frosty
    unit to the garage to use for long term stoage. If you're not in it
    every day it takes a lot longer to ice up.

    Good plan. Like the freezer here in the woods (in the fridge) it's old
    and works great but when we spend a lot of time here and open/close it
    it gets iced up qiuck

    store bits and pices of leftover supper vegetables until I have enough
    for a nice pot of vegetable soup. Never twice the same .... Bv)=

    We do the same!

    Shawn

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Thu May 23 12:02:18 2024
    Hi Shawn,


    Looks good, this is about the time of year when fresh rhubarb is available. My dad used to keep a patch of it in his garden and every
    year about this time, mom would make pie.

    I love rhubarb pie, Andrea hates pastry. I don't often make it
    anymore for that reason... I did get some rhubarb from a friend so I chucked it in the freezer for now and one day I'll make a pie have a
    slice and if
    my kid won't take the rest I'll chuck it.

    Other alternative is to cut it into slices, individually wrap and freeze
    them. Then, every time you want pie, pull out a slice and defrost it.

    That's why I don't make pie often anymore.

    I don't make it that often either, but just before I sat down to do
    mail, I mixed up the crust for a fresh strawberry pie. It's now chilling
    before being rolled out and baked, after baking I'll prep the berries
    and thickener while the crust cools.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu May 23 12:07:30 2024
    Hi Dave,

    a self-defroster. It's a genuine PITA doing that every couple months.
    Even if I use a heat gun (hair dryer on steroids) to speed things up.

    My mom used to put a pot of water on the stove, bring it to a boil,
    then put it in the freezer for maybe 20 minutes to start loosening
    things up. I did the same initially, then sometimes grabbed a blow
    dryer and set it on high........

    As I told Shawn in another post in this packet - I've bought another freezer of the same size fro Best Buy's open box offerngs. It's a self defroster - so the current guy will soon live in the garage.

    I saw that, nice! A couple of years ago we bought an upright freezer
    (sale at Sam's Club), gave the chest freezer to a family in church.
    She'd been wanting one for some time, just couldn't afford the extra $$
    to buy one. A couple of weeks after we got it to their place, their
    fridge died so they had to transfer what they could to the freezer while
    the fridge was refurbished.

    Drivers seem more interested in their phones than in tr RH> We
    picked up a couple more boxes of strawberries in our first shopping RH>
    trip after getting home. Might do a fresh strawberry pie, left over RH>
    combine with rhubarb for another pie.

    I like strawberry pie. And I like rhubarb pie (note to self - get some rhubarb starts for the side of the house) But, I abhor
    strawberry-rhubarb pie.

    I like the sweet/tart combination. Had a slice at the one buffet in
    Ohio, could have used a lot more fruit and less filler--mine will be
    more fruit than filler.

    Late news - Burpee offers some thornless blackberry bushes that will
    fit in front of the fence dividing my front and side yard areas. Still nothing positive on the srrawberries.

    Steve just picked some fresh peas from what he planted in our small
    raised bed earlier this year. Starting to be the time of year when
    we'll be eating a lot of fresh fruits and vegetables.

    You season starts a lot earlier than mine does. This year's garden
    will be limited to some 'maters and a couuple short-season things like radishes and some herbs.

    We'll be in blueberry season in another week or so, tomatoes are
    starting to come onto the market.

    I made this for my friends Les & Sara using bought (Crate & Barrel) berries and ALDI's Deutsche Kuche noodles. Sara (who is very
    strictly DD> Kosher) asked if if I was sure I was Jewish. Bv)=

    Title: Blackberry Noodle Kugel DD> Categories: Desserts,
    Fruits, Pasta, Puddings DD> Yield: 10 Servings

    Looks good--and you don't have to be Jewish to cook good Jewish food, especially if you remember the dietary restrictions. Since you used butter, was the wedding/reception dairy based (no meat)?

    Desserts/snacks/finger foods only. Oddly, Les is like me with keeping Kosher. Don't serve the Rabbi pork chops or catfish. Bv)=

    Or shellfish.

    Title: Deep-Dish Rhubarb Pie
    Categories: Pies, Pastry, Desserts
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Looks good, this is about the time of year when fresh rhubarb is available. My dad used to keep a patch of it in his garden and every
    year about this time, mom would make pie.

    Rhubarb doesn't take a lot of tending. Just got to remember not to eat
    the leaves. Bv)=

    True, got that drilled into us quite young when growing up.


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu May 23 12:18:44 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Somehow I always thought of goulash as a Hungarian dish. I have a
    couple recipes for Hungarian grub (Juune Meyer's cookbook in hardback)

    This is goulash soup--no pasta in it, just meat, peppers, onion, tomato and seasoning.

    Errrrmmmm, lots of soups have pasta. Chicken 'n' Noodle soup
    f'rinstance. Bv)=

    And a lot that don't, tomato soup for instance. (G)


    Nothing left for the dogs?

    He gives the mooches treats from his plate - which I never do.
    Although I'll let them pre-wash the plate/bowl when I'm finished.
    Bv)=

    I never fed animals from the table either but my dad, and Steve, did.

    Doesn't stop them from being in "mooch-a-pooch" mode. Ever the
    optimists these guys always try. Bv)=

    I know, Sam used to give us those big brown puppy dog eyes. At Fort
    Huachuca our dining "room" was part of the L shaped living room. One
    night Sam sat down on the floor between Steve and me, making puppy eyes.
    Steve said something to the effect of "why don't you go sit in the
    living room?", and pointed. As Sam got up and took a step or two in that direction, Steve said something about "good dog, you listen
    well"......just as Sam parked himself on Steve's other side.

    This is a June Meyer recipe. The basic ingredients (beef,
    vegetabls) DD> are the same as for her family's Gulyas (goulash). And
    it is served DD> differenly (as a meal not just a single course) from
    what we're used DD> to.

    Title: June Meyer's Authentic Hungarian Beef Soup
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Potatoes
    Yield: 5 servings


    NOTES: This is a traditional winter soup. It is served
    in three courses. First the broth is served with fine or
    broad egg noodles. Then the meat and vegetables are
    served along with a cold sourcream and horse-radish
    sauce. This is a slow cooking soup, that tastes
    wonderful. It is worth the time it takes. It makes a
    cold winter day cosy. This serves a family.

    I only count two courses--broth with noodles, then meat and vegetables.
    It does look good, no matter how you count it tho.

    Good catch. I'd not noticed that and I've read (and cooked) that
    recipe several ties.

    My first reading it, it seemed a bit off so I re-read it slower and only counted 2 courses. Somebody can't count or add. (G)


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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to ' on Fri May 24 14:01:45 2024
    Re: Ravioli
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Tue May 21 2024 11:37 am

    Hi Carol,

    I freaked out my hosemate yesterday at supper. I had stopped at Humphrey's deli to pick up a half-pound of chicken livers and some pre-cut muskmelon for my lunch whe I saw the meat department has chuck-eye steaks on special offer @ U$6.99 lb. I couldn't pass that by. 3 of the 1# steaks are sucky bagged in the freezer and I fixed/grilled the other (after halving it)
    w/lemon-pepper amd some basil and rigani.

    Sounds good. We try to catch deals like that when we can and add them to our freezer also. Didn't buy a lot of meat this past year but still have a good amount in the freezer.

    Did "baked" potatoes in the microwave and a nice side salad. When I set it in front of Dennis ha said "I'm not hungey". But I noticed there was nothing but bare plates at clean-up time. Bv)=

    Nothing left for the dogs?

    Oh, my poor Dog Jack! He's rescue and apparently never had a dental.
    5 teeth extracted (1,149$!!). He's almost 9 and had to be done, but gosh, even the cat is being nice to him today.

    Poor puppy! No more gnawing on rawhide treats, pig's ears (that was Sam's--our cocker spaniel--favorite) and so on. Hopefully he has enough teeth yet that he can crunch on dry foods; the idea of wet dog food for
    the rest of his life is probably not very appealing.



    They say crunchy in one more week for Gentle Jack. I am swapping his kibble to a new 'limited diet' used for dog food allergies. He's on wheat, corn and soy free right now but it's not handling the allergies fully. The vet is saying now there's something odd about the beagles, like a bad backyard breeder?

    A lot of them are wheat/corn allergic.

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Dave Drum on Fri May 24 14:34:50 2024
    Re: Re: Ravioli
    By: Dave Drum to Ruth Haffly on Thu May 23 2024 07:00 am

    Without quoting, you and Ruth were talking 'Goulash'. It's a vague Americanism to call it 'Hungarian' I think. The American versions are largely based on things that came from the Americas and not much that sources to the old country.

    Dave is right that based on our traditions, it has no noodles but it doesn't really have a set list other than lots of diced tomatoes.

    Common items: Tomatoes, bell peppers, onions, corn kernals, sometimes chiles, spices such as were available, meat (type whatever ya got). It was also made vegetarian. It was the sort of thing grown in your own garden.

    Then things get very wierd. Burgoo. Burgoo is our own crazy thing with classic version having 3 different types of meats. Possum, deer venison, wild duck are 2 possibilities. Only fish were omitted. Rats, squirrels,and lots of other things landed in the pot. It varies a lot but is essentially Goulash with meats (grin). But it's a blurry line though and more apt to be defined as one or the other reginally. That's why people argue a bit about it.

    Enjoy!

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Shawn Highfield on Fri May 24 15:31:49 2024
    Re: Cramping
    By: Shawn Highfield to DAVE DRUM on Fri May 24 2024 09:29 am


    On storing bits of vegetables for vegetable soup.

    I store peelings, wilted or rubbery veggies of all but potatoes and tomatoes in the freezer until I have a gallon bag worth. Since we eat close to vegetarian more often than not, this doesn't take long. Just boil any rutabega skins for a bit to get the wax off first.

    Put this in a big stock pot with 1 gallon or so of water and add contents of bag.

    Common ingredients: skins of onions (the brown papery stuff) plus ends
    wilted cabbage
    ends and peels of carrots
    tough mushroom stems
    ends of squash/zuccini
    peels of turnip
    cores of califlower
    cored of cabbage
    ends of celery
    seeds and mush from deseeding winter squash with acorn most common
    Anything goimg south but not moldy or slimey (mustard greens are common) rubbery Gai Lan
    ends of Japanese eggplant

    The water should cover them (oat a bit). Add more water if needed and along as it boils down. (low boil, just past simmer vs rapid)
    Add 1 tsp salt (do not omit it or the batch will taste bland and adding salt later dosn't fix it).

    low boil/almost simmer but just above, for 2 hours the taste test. if still weak, low boil for another hour but don't replace the lost water.

    This vegetable broth counts as 'free' as it's entirely built of things you'd normally throw out.

    Take a deep plastic container and a big strainer lined with paper towels or cheese cloth and dump the pot in it to drain. Press the veggies down to get as much broth out as you can. Discard all veggies as they are useless now (you can compost them). You should have a clear fairly deep brown (from the onion skins) Vegetable broth and probably near a gallon of it. Store in fridge or freeze some of it in amounts you commonly use. If it wasn't clear and you want that, strain again.

    Note, the omision of all potato bits or similar such as sweet potatoes is to make a clear broth.

    Enjoy!

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to RUTH HAFFLY on Sat May 25 08:01:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly was heard saying....

    Other alternative is to cut it into slices, individually wrap and freeze them. Then, every time you want pie, pull out a slice and defrost it.

    That's a good idea. I do have the sucky-bag machine after Dave kept
    talking about how handy they were.

    I don't make it that often either, but just before I sat down to do
    mail, I mixed up the crust for a fresh strawberry pie. It's now chilling before being rolled out and baked, after baking I'll prep the berries
    and thickener while the crust cools.

    Yum. Still a few weeks away from Stawberrys here I think.

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to DAVE DRUM on Sat May 25 08:02:00 2024
    Dave Drum was heard saying....

    That's why I don't make pie often anymore.
    Is it the gluten in the crust? Or she's just persnickity? In any event I

    No gluten in anything in the house - I have to keep my kitchen clean, she's
    not on a fad diet, she has celiac so gluten causes her endless amount of
    "fun" in the bathroom with both ends having issues.

    have a solution for you and the kidlet. This works with regular or even store bought "ready-to-bake" crust. But the cream-cheeze in the recipe
    is very nice.

    I've saved it - worth a shot! My A-P mix is GF so I don't need to modify anything. I just add some xanthum gum to attempt to make it stay together.

    Shawn

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat May 25 07:02:00 2024
    Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Without quoting, you and Ruth were talking 'Goulash'. It's a vague Americanism to call it 'Hungarian' I think. The American versions are largely based on things that came from the Americas and not much that sources to the old country.

    The root word is Hungarian - gulyas

    Dave is right that based on our traditions, it has no noodles but it doesn't really have a set list other than lots of diced tomatoes.

    Gulyas is like chilli "any kind of meat, or combination of meats, and/or vegetables cooked with beans, chile peppers, various spices and other ingredients. Chilli may be any color."

    Common items: Tomatoes, bell peppers, onions, corn kernals, sometimes chiles, spices such as were available, meat (type whatever ya got). It was also made vegetarian. It was the sort of thing grown in your own garden.

    Then things get very wierd. Burgoo. Burgoo is our own crazy thing
    with classic version having 3 different types of meats. Possum, deer venison, wild duck are 2 possibilities. Only fish were omitted. Rats, squirrels,and lots of other things landed in the pot. It varies a lot
    but is essentially Goulash with meats (grin). But it's a blurry line though and more apt to be defined as one or the other reginally.
    That's why people argue a bit about it.

    Burgoo, AFAIK, is a Kentucky thing - my local-ish Franklin, IL 4th of
    July Burgoo notwithstanding. Burgoo is Kentucky's most famous stew,
    usually made for big gatherings, like Derby Day, in huge kettles. It
    dates back to before the Civil War and, as legend has it, was invented
    by a French chef. In many place it is known also as "Road Kill Stew".

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Squirrel Burgoo
    Categories: Game, Vegetables, Stews, Potatoes
    Yield: 5 Servings

    3 oz Jim Beam bourbon; 100 months
    - old (AKA James B. Beam)
    2 lb Squirrel meat
    4 c Beef or chicken stock
    16 oz Can tomatoes; cut up
    Salt & pepper
    2 lg Potatoes; peeled, diced
    Big handful okra; sliced
    Corn kernels from two ears
    +=OR=+
    14 oz Can Green Giant niblets
    2 Sliced carrots
    1 lg Onion; chopped
    pn Sugar
    Cumin & cayenne

    Toss back a jigger of Jim Beam.

    Combine meat, undrained tomatoes, salt, pepper, and
    stock. Bring to boil, simmer for half an hour - hour
    depending on the age of the squirrels when shot.

    Remove and set aside tender meat; and toss in potatoes
    and then other ingredients and simmer until vegetables
    are ready (don't overcook). Remove any bones from the
    squirrel meat and cut into more or less bite sized bits
    and toss back in.

    Toss back the second jigger of Beam.

    Bring burgoo back to heat and serve.

    Recipe by Sam Fujisaka

    From: http://www.burgoo.org

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat May 25 07:04:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Somehow I always thought of goulash as a Hungarian dish. I have a
    couple recipes for Hungarian grub (Juune Meyer's cookbook in hardback)

    This is goulash soup--no pasta in it, just meat, peppers, onion, tomato and seasoning.

    Errrrmmmm, lots of soups have pasta. Chicken 'n' Noodle soup
    f'rinstance. Bv)=

    And a lot that don't, tomato soup for instance. (G)

    Or beef consomme .... PPBBBBTTTT!

    Nothing left for the dogs? DD> Title: June Meyer's Authentic
    Hungarian Beef Soup
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Potatoes
    Yield: 5 servings

    NOTES: This is a traditional winter soup. It is served
    in three courses. First the broth is served with fine or
    broad egg noodles. Then the meat and vegetables are
    served along with a cold sourcream and horse-radish
    sauce. This is a slow cooking soup, that tastes
    wonderful. It is worth the time it takes. It makes a
    cold winter day cosy. This serves a family.

    I only count two courses--broth with noodles, then meat and vegetables.
    It does look good, no matter how you count it tho.

    Good catch. I'd not noticed that and I've read (and cooked) that
    recipe several ties.

    My first reading it, it seemed a bit off so I re-read it slower and
    only counted 2 courses. Somebody can't count or add. (G)

    Well, maybe math isn't her first language. Bv)= She do have some good
    (and authentic) recipes, though. And some not so authentic - to wit:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: June Meyer's Authentic Csirkepaprikas *
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Dairy, Breads
    Yield: 12 Servings

    2 lg Onions; chopped
    4 tb Shortening, corn oil or lard
    3 tb Hungarian paprika
    1/8 ts Black pepper
    +=OR=+
    1/8 ts Whole pepper corns
    2 ts Salt
    5 lb Chicken; disjointed, use
    - legs, thighs, breast and
    - back for best flavour
    1 1/2 c Water
    1/2 pt Sour cream

    MMMMM------------------MODERN POTATO DUMPLINGS-----------------------
    1 c Instant potato flakes
    1 lg Egg
    1 c Flour
    1 c Water

    Yes, I know this is not traditional. But it is easy,
    fast and delicious.

    Mix in a small bowl.

    Drop by spoonfuls into salted boiling water. cook until
    dumplings look done when cut in half, 5 - 6 minutes.
    Drain and place into sour-cream gravy and serve.

    NOTE: If you do not like dumplings, you can serve this
    with some cooked wide egg noodles.

    TO MAKE THE PAPRIKAS: Brown onions in shortening. Add
    seasonings and chicken, brown 10 minutes. Add water,
    cover and let simmer slowly until it is tender. It will
    smell wonderful!

    Remove chicken, add sour cream to drippings in pan and
    mix well. To thicken gravy, mix into a paste 1 tb soft
    butter with 1 tb flour and stir into drippings.

    Add dumplings and arrange chicken on top. Heat through,
    but do not boil, and serve.

    * Hungarian Chicken Paprikas

    Serves 6 to 8.

    Every country household had a yard full of chickens.
    Chicken dishes that could be slow cooked on the stove
    for supper were plentiful and cheap to make. Paprikas
    was a weekly dish for supper.

    A pot of potato dumplings, and perhaps a platter of
    pickled Hungarian peppers and a loaf of crusty home
    baked bread was all that was need for ones well being.
    Every meal was eaten with gusto.

    Regards, June Meyer.

    From: http://june4.interaccess.com

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Dave Drum on Sat May 25 16:03:25 2024
    Re: Re: Goulash
    By: Dave Drum to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat May 25 2024 07:02 am

    Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Without quoting, you and Ruth were talking 'Goulash'. It's a vague Americanism to call it 'Hungarian' I think. The American versions are largely based on things that came from the Americas and not much that sources to the old country.

    The root word is Hungarian - gulyas

    Dave is right that based on our traditions, it has no noodles but it doesn't really have a set list other than lots of diced tomatoes.

    Gulyas is like chilli "any kind of meat, or combination of meats, and/or vegetables cooked with beans, chile peppers, various spices and other ingredients. Chilli may be any color."

    Common items: Tomatoes, bell peppers, onions, corn kernals, sometimes chiles, spices such as were available, meat (type whatever ya got). It was also made vegetarian. It was the sort of thing grown in your own garden.

    Then things get very wierd. Burgoo. Burgoo is our own crazy thing with classic version having 3 different types of meats. Possum, deer venison, wild duck are 2 possibilities. Only fish were omitted. Rats, squirrels,and lots of other things landed in the pot. It varies a lot but is essentially Goulash with meats (grin). But it's a blurry line though and more apt to be defined as one or the other reginally.
    That's why people argue a bit about it.

    Burgoo, AFAIK, is a Kentucky thing - my local-ish Franklin, IL 4th of
    July Burgoo notwithstanding. Burgoo is Kentucky's most famous stew,
    usually made for big gatherings, like Derby Day, in huge kettles. It
    dates back to before the Civil War and, as legend has it, was invented
    by a French chef. In many place it is known also as "Road Kill Stew".

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Squirrel Burgoo
    Categories: Game, Vegetables, Stews, Potatoes
    Yield: 5 Servings

    3 oz Jim Beam bourbon; 100 months
    - old (AKA James B. Beam)
    2 lb Squirrel meat
    4 c Beef or chicken stock
    16 oz Can tomatoes; cut up
    Salt & pepper
    2 lg Potatoes; peeled, diced
    Big handful okra; sliced
    Corn kernels from two ears
    +=OR=+
    14 oz Can Green Giant niblets
    2 Sliced carrots
    1 lg Onion; chopped
    pn Sugar
    Cumin & cayenne

    Toss back a jigger of Jim Beam.

    Combine meat, undrained tomatoes, salt, pepper, and
    stock. Bring to boil, simmer for half an hour - hour
    depending on the age of the squirrels when shot.

    Remove and set aside tender meat; and toss in potatoes
    and then other ingredients and simmer until vegetables
    are ready (don't overcook). Remove any bones from the
    squirrel meat and cut into more or less bite sized bits
    and toss back in.

    Toss back the second jigger of Beam.

    Bring burgoo back to heat and serve.

    Recipe by Sam Fujisaka

    From: http://www.burgoo.org

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    Dave, you might have missed that the names are regional. Burgoo is far more than Kentucky. The name is applied to any meat containing goulash in some parts of the USA.

    Americans changed it all over time so it's not the pure African or Hungarian roots anymore. Happens all the time!

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Shawn Highfield on Sat May 25 20:33:38 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    That's why I don't make pie often anymore.
    Is it the gluten in the crust? Or she's just persnickity? In any event I

    No gluten in anything in the house - I have to keep my kitchen clean, she's not on a fad diet, she has celiac so gluten causes her endless amount of "fun" in the bathroom with both ends having issues.

    I kn ew of the celiac problem. And I have a friend who has it. I thank providence that my only food allergy is toward bananananas.

    have a solution for you and the kidlet. This works with regular or even store bought "ready-to-bake" crust. But the cream-cheeze in the recipe
    is very nice.

    I've saved it - worth a shot! My A-P mix is GF so I don't need to
    modify anything. I just add some xanthum gum to attempt to make it
    stay together.

    The mini pie plates are a great boon for me. I can make me sized pies
    and not have to worry if my house-mate is "up for it". If he is I'll
    split a mini with him. If not I'll have the second serving next evenng.

    I have archived a GF pie crust recipe - but never made it. If you'd be
    so kind as to look it over and tell me if it will work (or at least if
    it stands a chance of working) I'd be most appreciative. Also - since
    this is for a single crust and I double it to get 2 crusts - will they
    act like regular pie crus with respect to sealing, etc?

    I did look up the "Instant Clear Gel" which is a modified corn starch.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Gluten-Free Pie Crust
    Categories: Pies, Pastry
    Yield: 1 9" crust

    1 1/4 c (195g) King Arthur Gluten
    - Free A-P flour
    1 tb Granulated sugar
    2 ts Instant ClearJel; opt
    1/2 ts Xanthan gum
    1/2 ts Table salt
    6 tb (85g) butter; cold
    1 lg Egg *
    2 ts Lemon juice or vinegar *

    * For an egg-free crust, substitute 4 tablespoons (57g)
    cold water for the egg and lemon juice (or vinegar). Add
    additional water if necessary.

    Lightly grease a 9" pie pan.

    Whisk together the flour or flour blend, sugar, Instant
    ClearJel, xanthan gum, and salt.

    Cut the cold butter into pats, then work the pats into
    the flour mixture until it's crumbly, with some larger,
    pea-sized chunks of butter remaining.

    Whisk the egg and vinegar or lemon juice together until
    very foamy. Mix into the dry ingredients. Stir until the
    mixture holds together, adding 1 to 3 additional
    tablespoons cold water if necessary.

    Shape into a ball and chill for an hour, or up to
    overnight.

    Allow the dough to rest at room temperature for 10 to 15
    minutes before rolling.

    Roll out on a piece of plastic wrap, on a silicone
    rolling mat, or in a pie bag that's been heavily
    sprinkled with gluten-free flour or flour blend. Invert
    the crust into the prepared pie pan.

    Fill and bake as your pie recipe directs; note the yolk
    makes this crust brown quickly in the oven. Shield the
    edges of the crust with aluminum foil or a pie shield,
    to protect them from burning while baking.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.kingarthurbaking.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun May 26 06:32:13 2024
    Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Dave, you might have missed that the names are regional. Burgoo is far more than Kentucky. The name is applied to any meat containing goulash
    in some parts of the USA.

    Actually, no. I didn't. Burgoo stared in Kentucky as a community based road-kill stew and was named there. No matter its similarities to gulyas
    or Mulligan stew ("invented" in American 'hobo jungles').

    But Americans will file the serial numbers off of anything and claim it
    as their own.

    Americans changed it all over time so it's not the pure African or Hungarian roots anymore. Happens all the time!

    Us crazy Americans will insist on corruptiing other's regional cuisine.
    Hell, we even put pineapple on pizza. And have been known to salt our
    beer. Not to mention the obscenities we visit on chilli con carne -
    turnng it into chilli con carnage. Bv)=

    And don't get me started on what we've inflicted on Oriental food.
    I mean chow mein noodles - from a can??? Are you kidding me??? Then
    there's this ....

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    Title: American Chop Suey II
    Categories: Five, Pasta, Beef, Vegetables
    Yield: 5 Servings

    16 oz Pkg uncooked elbow macaroni
    1 lb Ground beef
    1 lg Onion; chopped
    21 1/2 oz (2 cans) tomato soup
    Salt & pepper to taste

    Cook macaroni according to package directions.

    Meanwhile, in a separate large skillet over medium high
    heat, saute the ground beef and the onion for 5 to 10
    minutes, or until meat is browned and crumbly. Drain
    thoroughly and leave the meat and onion in the skillet.
    Pour the two cans of tomato soup into the skillet and
    stir well to combine.

    When noodles are done, drain thoroughly and return noodles
    to the pot. Add the hamburger mixture from the skillet to
    the pot. Mix well and season with salt and pepper to
    taste.

    UDD SEZ: Beg to differ. This is much more like my Mom's
    slumgullion than anything remotely approaching chop suey
    (the San Fransisco Treat)

    Recipe By: April Stevens

    RECIPE FROM: http://allrecipes.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat May 25 11:41:30 2024
    Hi Carol,

    Nothing left for the dogs?

    Oh, my poor Dog Jack! He's rescue and apparently never had a dental.
    5 teeth extracted (1,149$!!). He's almost 9 and had to be done, but gosh, even the cat is being nice to him today.

    Poor puppy! No more gnawing on rawhide treats, pig's ears (that was Sam's--our cocker spaniel--favorite) and so on. Hopefully he has enough teeth yet that he can crunch on dry foods; the idea of wet dog food for
    the rest of his life is probably not very appealing.

    They say crunchy in one more week for Gentle Jack. I am swapping his kibble to a new 'limited diet' used for dog food allergies. He's on wheat, corn and soy free right now but it's not handling the allergies fully. The vet is saying now there's something odd about the beagles, like a bad backyard breeder?

    I never had a beagle so couldn't answer if they have allergy quirks or
    not. When Sam got older, he liked his dry kibble moistened a bit. If we
    had it on hand, we'd use broth or gravy but he would be happy with just
    water on it. We'd occaisionally give him canned dog food, usually when
    we had to hide a pill--gave him just enough to hide the pill and mix it
    in with the dry food,

    As far as sweet cole slaw--my MIL gave me the cole slaw recipe I make
    99% of the time; it has just a sprinkle (maybe a tablespoon, at most,)
    of sugar. Otherwise, it's cabbage, shredded carrot, pineapple, little
    bits each of s&P, pineapple juice and mayo. I'll usually use crushed
    pineapple or cut up rings/tidbits into small pieces. Best cole slaw I've
    ever tasted and the one we judge others by.


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Sat May 25 15:14:06 2024
    Hi Shawn,


    Other alternative is to cut it into slices, individually wrap and freeze them. Then, every time you want pie, pull out a slice and defrost it.

    That's a good idea. I do have the sucky-bag machine after Dave kept talking about how handy they were.

    I've had a number of those machines over the years, have some sausages
    that Steve got at Costco the other day that needs bagging before going
    into the freezer. Use the delicate (no suction) or whatever they call it
    on your cheesecake; you don't want it to suck out all the air and squash
    the cheesecake.


    I don't make it that often either, but just before I sat down to do
    mail, I mixed up the crust for a fresh strawberry pie. It's now chilling before being rolled out and baked, after baking I'll prep the berries
    and thickener while the crust cools.

    Yum. Still a few weeks away from Stawberrys here I think.

    We're moving into blueberry season in the next couple of weeks. The
    crust didn't turn out that well but the pie was over all good. I think
    next week I'll pull a small bag of rhubarb out of the freezer & make a
    small strawberry/rhubarb pie to use up the strawberries on hand.

    ---
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    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat May 25 15:36:45 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Errrrmmmm, lots of soups have pasta. Chicken 'n' Noodle soup
    f'rinstance. Bv)=

    And a lot that don't, tomato soup for instance. (G)

    Or beef consomme .... PPBBBBTTTT!

    That's used as an ingredient, not a stand alone course in this
    household.

    Nothing left for the dogs? DD> Title: June Meyer's Authentic
    Hungarian Beef Soup DD> Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Potatoes DD>
    Yield: 5 servings

    NOTES: This is a traditional winter soup. It is served
    in three courses. First the broth is served with fine or
    broad egg noodles. Then the meat and vegetables are
    served along with a cold sourcream and horse-radish
    sauce. This is a slow cooking soup, that tastes
    wonderful. It is worth the time it takes. It makes a
    cold winter day cosy. This serves a family.

    I only count two courses--broth with noodles, then meat and vegetables.
    It does look good, no matter how you count it tho.

    Good catch. I'd not noticed that and I've read (and cooked) that
    recipe several ties.

    My first reading it, it seemed a bit off so I re-read it slower and
    only counted 2 courses. Somebody can't count or add. (G)

    Well, maybe math isn't her first language. Bv)= She do have some
    good (and authentic) recipes, though. And some not so authentic - to
    wit:

    Authentic can vary a lot, even from cook to cook within the same
    country.


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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to RUTH HAFFLY on Mon May 27 06:28:00 2024
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Shawn Highfield <=-

    into the freezer. Use the delicate (no suction) or whatever they call
    it on your cheesecake; you don't want it to suck out all the air and squash the cheesecake.

    This one has that feature! LOL I got one from amazon during prime day
    and it was so cheap we figured if we didn't use it who cares?

    We're moving into blueberry season in the next couple of weeks. The

    Really? I thought blueberry's were August fruit?

    next week I'll pull a small bag of rhubarb out of the freezer & make a small strawberry/rhubarb pie to use up the strawberries on hand.

    When my daughters idiot is at work I decided I'll go to her place and
    make one there so I can use real flour. That way I can eat a slice and
    just leave them the rest.

    Shawn

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to DAVE DRUM on Mon May 27 06:31:00 2024
    Quoting Dave Drum to Carol Shenkenberger <=-

    cuisine. Hell, we even put pineapple on pizza. And have been known to

    Sad to say a Canadian invented that disgusting mess.

    salt our beer. Not to mention the obscenities we visit on chilli con
    carne - turnng it into chilli con carnage. Bv)=

    I never understood salting the beer though.

    I mean chow mein noodles - from a can??? Are you kidding me??? Then there's this ....

    LOL

    Shawn

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to DAVE DRUM on Mon May 27 06:36:00 2024
    Quoting Dave Drum to Shawn Highfield <=-

    The mini pie plates are a great boon for me. I can make me sized pies
    and not have to worry if my house-mate is "up for it". If he is I'll
    split a mini with him. If not I'll have the second serving next
    evenng.

    I may do this as well!

    I have archived a GF pie crust recipe - but never made it. If you'd be
    so kind as to look it over and tell me if it will work (or at least if

    It will work. I'll post the one that I use below - pretty similar as most pastry crust is. :)

    it stands a chance of working) I'd be most appreciative. Also - since
    this is for a single crust and I double it to get 2 crusts - will they
    act like regular pie crus with respect to sealing, etc?

    Yes, pretty much the same. The big difference will be how crumbly the GF
    one is. Also straight GF A-P flour will taste a bit saw dusty so I always
    add some casava or almond flour to the mix.

    I did look up the "Instant Clear Gel" which is a modified corn starch.

    So that I wouldn't bother with... never heard of it nor used it in anything
    and I've never had a complaint.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06 by AccuChef (tm) www.AccuChef.com

    Title: GF Quiche / Pie Crust (Shawn's)
    Categories: Pies,Shawn
    Yield: 1 Servings

    2 c Gluten free AP Flour
    1 t Table salt
    1 t Baking powder
    * c Shortening (or lard)
    1 Egg
    5 T Ice water

    *1/3 and 1/3 cups of shortning or lard (I don't know how to deal with fractions)

    In the food processor whisk flour salt and baking powder a blitz,
    then add the lard and pulse until it resembles coarse crumbs.

    In a bowl beat egg and 1 T of the water until blended springkle over
    the flour and toss with a fork until evenly combined. Add the
    remaining water 1 T at a time stiring until the mix pulls away from
    the sides of the bowl and starts to come together into a ball. Shape
    until a ball wrap in plastic and chill for 20 mins.

    Unwrap and place on wax paper cover with another piece of paper and
    roll it out. Fit into the pan, patching any tears and pinch the ends
    to form the crust.

    Chill for at least 30 mins. FIll and bake.


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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Mon May 27 05:22:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Carol Shenkenberger <=-

    As far as sweet cole slaw--my MIL gave me the cole slaw recipe I make
    99% of the time; it has just a sprinkle (maybe a tablespoon, at most,)
    of sugar. Otherwise, it's cabbage, shredded carrot, pineapple, little
    bits each of s&P, pineapple juice and mayo. I'll usually use crushed pineapple or cut up rings/tidbits into small pieces. Best cole slaw
    I've ever tasted and the one we judge others by.

    That doesn't need sugar - the sweet comes from the carrots and fruit.

    I'm not a fan of the vinegar-based coleslaws - nor the oil & vinegar
    salad dressings. Vinegar as an ingredient - yeah. That's different -
    just not as a main ingredient. Bv)=

    I do like Popeyes (and KFC) coleslaw. With a few grinds of black pepper.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Popeyes Coleslaw (Copycat)
    Categories: Greens, Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 8 servings

    1 c Mayonnaise
    1/4 c Cugar
    2 tb Sweet pickle relish
    2 tb Dill pickle relish
    2 tb White vinegar
    2 tb Oil
    1 tb Yellow mustard
    6 c Green cabbage; chopped fine
    1/2 c Shredded carrot
    1/4 Yellow onion; minced

    Add the mayonnaise, sugar, sweet relish, dill relish,
    white vinegar, vegetable oil and yellow mustard to a
    large bowl and whisk well together.

    Add the cabbage, carrot and onion and mix well.

    Refrigerate for at least 2 hours before serving.

    by Sabrina Snyder

    RECIPE FROM: https://dinnerthendessert.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Mon May 27 06:29:00 2024
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    Errrrmmmm, lots of soups have pasta. Chicken 'n' Noodle soup
    f'rinstance. Bv)=

    And a lot that don't, tomato soup for instance. (G)

    Or beef consomme .... PPBBBBTTTT!

    That's used as an ingredient, not a stand alone course in this
    household.

    I do it both ways. And as a dipper for French Dip sandwiches (if I
    grab the consomme insteadof the broth).

    Nothing left for the dogs?

    Title: June Meyer's Authentic Hungarian Beef Soup
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Potatoes DD>
    Yield: 5 servings

    NOTES: This is a traditional winter soup. It is served
    in three courses. First the broth is served with fine or
    broad egg noodles. Then the meat and vegetables are
    served along with a cold sourcream and horse-radish
    sauce. This is a slow cooking soup, that tastes
    wonderful. It is worth the time it takes. It makes a
    cold winter day cosy. This serves a family.

    I only count two courses--broth with noodles, then meat and vegetables.
    It does look good, no matter how you count it tho.

    Good catch. I'd not noticed that and I've read (and cooked) that
    recipe several ties.

    My first reading it, it seemed a bit off so I re-read it slower and
    only counted 2 courses. Somebody can't count or add. (G)

    Well, maybe math isn't her first language. Bv)= She do have some
    good (and authentic) recipes, though. And some not so authentic - to
    wit:

    Authentic can vary a lot, even from cook to cook within the same
    country.

    All of June's recipes that I have tried have been good. Even if her
    subject sometimes disagrees with her predicate.

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    Title: Beef Consomme
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Herbs, Soups
    Yield: 10 servings

    1 tb Black peppercorns, crushed
    4 lg Egg whites; plus eggshells
    3 Roma tomatoes; quartered
    4 Celery ribs; coarse chopped
    1/2 lb Premium ground sirloin,
    - shank or shoulder
    6 c Cold veal or beef stock
    1 Sprig fresh thyme
    2 ts Salt

    In a big ceramic bowl, whisk the peppercorns, egg
    whites, and eggshells until the mixture turns foamy.
    Reserve.

    Pulse together in a food processor the tomatoes, celery
    ribs, and ground beef. Pulse until it's just
    incorporated.

    In a large stockpot, combine the vegetable-beef mixture
    and the egg mixture, with the veal stock, thyme, and
    salt. Bring to a boil, stirring constantly.

    Once all the solids have formed the raft on top, remove
    a piece of the raft on the side to allow you to see if
    all the impurities have risen to the top of the pot.
    Reduce the heat and simmer, without stirring, for 30 to
    40 minutes. Do not disturb the raft as this might make
    your consomme cloudy.

    Once the cooking time is done, remove the pot from the
    heat and strain the liquid through a fine-mesh sieve
    lined with a double layer of cheesecloth. Discard the
    solids. Alternatively, ladle out all the consomme at the
    bottom by gently and slowly pressing the hole in the
    raft. In this version, you will also need to strain the
    liquid through a sieve lined with cheesecloth. If your
    strained consomme still has particles in it, pass it
    through a clean cheesecloth again.

    Serve hot and enjoy.

    By: Rebecca Franklin

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Shawn Highfield on Tue May 28 05:06:00 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    cuisine. Hell, we even put pineapple on pizza. And have been known to

    Sad to say a Canadian invented that disgusting mess.

    I did not know that. I had to go to the Bing search engine to find who
    to blame .... Sam Panopoulos. Since he's Greek that goes a long way to
    explain the really weird pizza we got offered in St. Pie PQ.

    Dole and Del Monte probably have a bust of him at their corp-rat offices.

    salt our beer. Not to mention the obscenities we visit on chilli con
    carne - turnng it into chilli con carnage. Bv)=

    I never understood salting the beer though.

    My mother discovered, when cooking some frog's legs that my granddad
    and I had brough back from our fishing expedition that salting the legs
    in the pan made them "jump" or at least move around. Soon they were so
    salty that not even the dog would eat them.

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    Title: Frog's Legs
    Categories: Game, Dairy, Vegetables
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1/4 c Salt
    1/2 pt Buttermilk
    1/2 lb Butter
    2 tb Garlic; minced
    8 md Pairs frog legs
    1 1/2 qt Water

    Wash the frog legs well and place in a large bowl filled
    with the 1 1/2 quarts of water and 1/4 cup of salt. Allow
    to stand refrigerated for approximately one hour and drain
    and rinse the frog legs. Cover with the buttermilk in the
    same bowl and allow to stand for another hour refrigerated.

    Drain, lightly rinse and pat dry.

    In a large frying pan melt the butter and add the garlic.
    Saute over medium heat until the garlic is soft but not
    browned. Add the frog legs and saute until cooked and
    lightly browned. About 10 minutes. Do not over cook.

    NOTES: When cooking these for a large group like S.C.I.
    I will deep fry the frog legs and then make the garlic
    butter sauce and add it to them already cooked. Not as
    good but for a large group its acceptable. I would use
    legs as large as I could find. Most are very small. Be
    selective.

    I also cook these in a tomato-basil sauce instead of the
    butter. Do everything the same up to the cooking and then
    just substitute the tomato basil sauce.

    Recipe by: LeRoy Trnavsky S.C.I. 1998

    Posted to MasterCook Digest on Sep 8, 1998,

    Recipe makes: 4 Servings

    Recipe from: http://www.recipelink.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Shawn Highfield on Tue May 28 06:00:00 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to RUTH HAFFLY <=-

    We're moving into blueberry season in the next couple of weeks. The

    Really? I thought blueberry's were August fruit?

    Depends on where you live. Ruth in in North Carolina (Zone 2) and you
    are in Zone 7 in Southern Ontario.

    We see blueberries adverted by the U-picks and farm stands around mid
    June. Now they're hustling asparagus and rhubarb.

    next week I'll pull a small bag of rhubarb out of the freezer & make a small strawberry/rhubarb pie to use up the strawberries on hand.

    When my daughters idiot is at work I decided I'll go to her place and
    make one there so I can use real flour. That way I can eat a slice and just leave them the rest.

    Here's a nice asparaguse soup recipe from a Quebecios lady who was on
    the echo when I first joined back in the 90s. It's really pretty good.

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    Title: Asparagus Soup #3
    Categories: Vegetables, Soups, Pork, Dairy
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 1/2 lb Asparagus; cut up
    2 1/2 c Cream
    5 lg Eggs, well beaten
    2 tb Butter
    2 sl Bacon *
    2 c Water
    2 tb Fresh parsley; fine chopped
    Salt & pepper

    In a deep saucepan, bring the water to a boil. Add the
    bacon; cover and boil for 15 minutes. Discard the bacon.
    Add the asparagus; cover and simmer over medium-low heat
    until tender.

    In a mixing bowl, blend the eggs and cream. Stir this
    mix into the asparagus, adding the spices and butter.
    Simmer for 2 min over low heat, stirring continuously.
    Remove from the heat and serve.

    * if you'd like you can substitute a teasoppon or so of
    bacon dripping and not have to sacrifice two slices of
    my favourite vegetables. Bv)=

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Shawn Highfield on Tue May 28 06:00:00 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    The mini pie plates are a great boon for me. I can make me sized pies
    and not have to worry if my house-mate is "up for it". If he is I'll
    split a mini with him. If not I'll have the second serving next
    evenng.

    I may do this as well!

    I have archived a GF pie crust recipe - but never made it. If you'd be
    so kind as to look it over and tell me if it will work (or at least if

    It will work. I'll post the one that I use below - pretty similar as
    most pastry crust is. :)

    Thanks

    it stands a chance of working) I'd be most appreciative. Also - since
    this is for a single crust and I double it to get 2 crusts - will they
    act like regular pie crus with respect to sealing, etc?

    Yes, pretty much the same. The big difference will be how crumbly the
    GF one is. Also straight GF A-P flour will taste a bit saw dusty so I always add some casava or almond flour to the mix.

    Fair enough.

    I did look up the "Instant Clear Gel" which is a modified corn starch.

    So that I wouldn't bother with... never heard of it nor used it in anything and I've never had a complaint.

    Further reading gives up that it's both a binder in pastry and a thickener
    in fruit fillings as well as a stabiliser in whipped cream.

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    Title: GF Quiche / Pie Crust (Shawn's)
    Categories: Pies,Shawn
    Yield: 1 Servings

    2 c Gluten free AP Flour
    1 t Table salt
    1 t Baking powder
    * c Shortening (or lard)
    1 Egg
    5 T Ice water

    Other than the GF flour - pretty basic.

    *1/3 and 1/3 cups of shortning or lard (I don't know how to deal with fractions)

    My go-to text editor has a "seek and replace/destroy" function for things
    like that. The newspaper/magazine/cookbook publishers use "high ascii" in
    their fraction symbols - as well as the letter accents which come out all
    funny in Meal Master and Fido. So when I'm prepping a cut & paste recipe
    for import I massage the fractions to plain type 1/8, 1/4, etc.

    If I'm typing the recipe in from a printed page I just enter it as I want
    it to look.

    Here's an all butter crust I've had good luck with. Shouldn't be too
    hard to make it GF for your wife ...

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    Title: All Butter Pie Crust
    Categories: Five, Pastry
    Yield: 1 Pie

    MMMMM----------------------SINGLE-CRUST PIE---------------------------
    1 1/4 c A-P flour
    1/4 ts Salt
    1/2 c Cold butter; diced
    3 tb (to 4 tb) ice water

    MMMMM----------------------DOUBLE-CRUST PIE---------------------------
    2 1/2 c A-P flour
    1/2 ts Salt
    1 c Cold butter; diced
    1/3 c (to 2/3 c) ice water

    Combine flour and salt; cut in butter until crumbly.
    Gradually add ice water, tossing with a fork until dough
    holds together when pressed.

    Shape dough into a disk for a single-crust pie. For a
    double-crust pie, divide dough in half, with 1 piece
    slightly larger than the other; shape into 2 disks. Wrap
    and refrigerate 1 hour or overnight.

    On a lightly floured surface, roll 1 disk of dough to a
    1/8" thick circle; transfer to a 9" pie plate.

    FOR A SINGLE-CRUST PIE: Trim crust to 1/2" beyond rim of
    plate; flute edge. Fill or bake according to recipe
    directions.

    FOR A DOUBLE-CRUST PIE: Add filling to crust. Roll
    remaining dough to a 1/8-in.-thick circle. Place over
    filling. Trim, seal and flute edge. Cut slits in top.
    Bake according to recipe directions.

    UDD NOTE: Do not be afraid to use more water if you
    think it necessary. The numbers given are lowest
    limit. I've used as much as 6 TB on a single crust.

    Taste of Home Test Kitchen

    Makes: dough for one 9" pie

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Mon May 27 13:19:48 2024
    Hi Shawn,


    into the freezer. Use the delicate (no suction) or whatever they call
    it on your cheesecake; you don't want it to suck out all the air and squash the cheesecake.

    This one has that feature! LOL I got one from amazon during prime day
    and it was so cheap we figured if we didn't use it who cares?

    And you find you're using it a lot more than you thought you would?
    We've found that to be true of so many things we've bought over the
    years.


    We're moving into blueberry season in the next couple of weeks. The

    Really? I thought blueberry's were August fruit?

    Around here, blueberries are done by late June, peaches come into season
    in July and go thru August. Also, watermelon comes into season in July,
    don't know for sure how long the season officially lasts because it's in
    the stores into fall. Best watermelon you can get is a Bogue Sound
    melon, Bogue Sound being down on the coast of NC, off of the
    Intracoastal Waterway. We used to live near there and learned to
    appreciate good watermelon.

    next week I'll pull a small bag of rhubarb out of the freezer &
    make a RH> small strawberry/rhubarb pie to use up the strawberries on
    hand.

    When my daughters idiot is at work I decided I'll go to her place and
    make one there so I can use real flour. That way I can eat a slice
    and just leave them the rest.

    Sounds good to me. Last year at a barn sale (indoor yard sale, in a
    barn) I found a small pie pan, maybe 7" diameter. Good for pies when you
    don't have a lot of filler or don't want a big pie. I've got some
    strawberries left over from making a bigger pie that will probably fill
    the small pan quite nicely. (G)

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon May 27 13:30:59 2024
    Hi Dave,


    As far as sweet cole slaw--my MIL gave me the cole slaw recipe I make
    99% of the time; it has just a sprinkle (maybe a tablespoon, at most,)
    of sugar. Otherwise, it's cabbage, shredded carrot, pineapple, little
    bits each of s&P, pineapple juice and mayo. I'll usually use crushed pineapple or cut up rings/tidbits into small pieces. Best cole slaw
    I've ever tasted and the one we judge others by.

    That doesn't need sugar - the sweet comes from the carrots and fruit.

    That's why I add just a bit--to help bring out the sweetness of the
    other ingredients.

    I'm not a fan of the vinegar-based coleslaws - nor the oil & vinegar
    salad dressings. Vinegar as an ingredient - yeah. That's different -
    just not as a main ingredient. Bv)=

    I'll go for the oil and vinegar salad dressings if nothing else is
    available or none of the other choices are ones I like. Given a choice
    tho, Thousand Island is my #1 pick. As for vinegar based cole slaw,
    usually everything is chopped really fine, then mixed with the vinegar.
    Again, given a choice, that's not the way I like cole slae--I'll eat it,
    but while doing so, wish it were the way I make cole slaw. (G)

    I do like Popeyes (and KFC) coleslaw. With a few grinds of black
    pepper.

    I like Popeyes slaw better than KFC'c.


    Title: Popeyes Coleslaw (Copycat)
    Categories: Greens, Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 8 servings

    1 c Mayonnaise
    1/4 c Cugar
    *****


    * Better correct this typo in your MM


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon May 27 13:54:05 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Or beef consomme .... PPBBBBTTTT!

    That's used as an ingredient, not a stand alone course in this
    household.

    I do it both ways. And as a dipper for French Dip sandwiches (if I
    grab the consomme insteadof the broth).

    I keep soup base (both chicken and beef flavors) on hand. Wegman's sells kimmelweck rolls so every so often we'll buy some rolls and sliced roast
    beef. Heat some beef base and water, dip beef in that to heat slightly,
    put on (sliced) rolls and add more juice if desired. Easy meal, add
    chips, salad, or other side of choice.


    I only count two courses--broth with noodles, then meat and vegetables.
    It does look good, no matter how you count it tho.

    Good catch. I'd not noticed that and I've read (and cooked) that
    recipe several ties.

    My first reading it, it seemed a bit off so I re-read it slower and
    only counted 2 courses. Somebody can't count or add. (G)

    Well, maybe math isn't her first language. Bv)= She do have some
    good (and authentic) recipes, though. And some not so authentic - to
    wit:

    Authentic can vary a lot, even from cook to cook within the same
    country.

    All of June's recipes that I have tried have been good. Even if her subject sometimes disagrees with her predicate.

    Was English her first language?


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to SHAWN HIGHFIELD on Tue May 28 10:33:00 2024
    cuisine. Hell, we even put pineapple on pizza. And have been known to

    Sad to say a Canadian invented that disgusting mess.

    That is sad, and something I'd not admit to! :D

    Mike


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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to RUTH HAFFLY on Wed May 29 06:42:00 2024
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Dave Drum <=-

    available or none of the other choices are ones I like. Given a choice tho, Thousand Island is my #1 pick. As for vinegar based cole slaw,

    We recently got some thousand island, I had not had it in years. I found
    it too sweet. I do really like it on burgers though!

    Shawn

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to DAVE DRUM on Wed May 29 06:43:00 2024
    Quoting Dave Drum to Shawn Highfield <=-

    We see blueberries adverted by the U-picks and farm stands around mid June. Now they're hustling asparagus and rhubarb.

    asparagus and rhubarb is here too. Only time of year I bother with it.

    Here's a nice asparaguse soup recipe from a Quebecios lady who was on
    the echo when I first joined back in the 90s. It's really pretty good.

    Saved. Pretty simple soup that looks to be a good way to use up that
    asparagus before it goes off. Thanks Dave!

    Shawn

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to RUTH HAFFLY on Wed May 29 06:45:00 2024
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Shawn Highfield <=-

    And you find you're using it a lot more than you thought you would?
    We've found that to be true of so many things we've bought over the
    years.

    Yes, I use the sucky bag way more then I thought I would. :)

    because it's in the stores into fall. Best watermelon you can get is a Bogue Sound melon, Bogue Sound being down on the coast of NC, off of
    the Intracoastal Waterway. We used to live near there and learned to appreciate good watermelon.

    Living where I do... I'd have to google if they grow here or not. I've had good watermelon but most of the time it's "edable" watermelon.

    Sounds good to me. Last year at a barn sale (indoor yard sale, in a
    barn) I found a small pie pan, maybe 7" diameter. Good for pies when
    you don't have a lot of filler or don't want a big pie. I've got some strawberries left over from making a bigger pie that will probably
    fill the small pan quite nicely. (G)

    I'm on the hunt for something like that. I've seen them new but like you
    I'd rather find a deal for one. :)

    Shawn

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to MIKE POWELL on Wed May 29 06:51:00 2024
    Quoting Mike Powell to Shawn Highfield <=-

    Sad to say a Canadian invented that disgusting mess.
    That is sad, and something I'd not admit to! :D

    Since I didn't do it I will share the truth. LOL You know someone
    would have eventually tried it even without Sam.

    Shawn

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/107 to Shawn Highfield on Wed May 29 07:25:08 2024
    Sad to say a Canadian invented that disgusting mess.
    That is sad, and something I'd not admit to! :D

    Since I didn't do it I will share the truth. LOL

    That is probably the best policy. ;)

    You know someone
    would have eventually tried it even without Sam.

    That is probably also true, unfortunately!

    Mike


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Wed May 29 07:34:06 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Or beef consomme .... PPBBBBTTTT!

    That's used as an ingredient, not a stand alone course in this
    household.

    I do it both ways. And as a dipper for French Dip sandwiches (if I
    grab the consomme insteadof the broth).

    I keep soup base (both chicken and beef flavors) on hand. Wegman's
    sells kimmelweck rolls so every so often we'll buy some rolls and
    sliced roast beef. Heat some beef base and water, dip beef in that to
    heat slightly, put on (sliced) rolls and add more juice if desired.
    Easy meal, add chips, salad, or other side of choice.

    IOW German Dip instead of French Dip (or maybe Buffalo Dip as that's
    where Beef on Weck originated in this country.

    I only count two courses--broth with noodles, then meat and vegetables.
    It does look good, no matter how you count it tho.

    Good catch. I'd not noticed that and I've read (and cooked) that
    recipe several ties.

    My first reading it, it seemed a bit off so I re-read it slower and
    only counted 2 courses. Somebody can't count or add. (G)

    Well, maybe math isn't her first language. Bv)= She do have some
    good (and authentic) recipes, though. And some not so authentic - to
    wit:

    Authentic can vary a lot, even from cook to cook within the same
    country.

    All of June's recipes that I have tried have been good. Even if her subject sometimes disagrees with her predicate.

    Was English her first language?

    Dunno. Lemme look. To wit:

    Who is June Meyer? I am a retired elementary school Art Teacher. I
    received my BAE from the School of the Art Institute of Chicago. I
    taught Art in Illinois for 32 years. I have lived in Deerfield for
    59 years. Deerfield is a northern suburb of Chicago. I was born in
    Chicago, in what is now called a "Historical Cottage", built right
    after the Great Chicago Fire.

    Retirement keeps me busy. I am an active member of the Lake County
    chapter of the Illinois Retired Teachers Association. I was editor
    of the LCRTA newsletter for five years. For five years, I served as
    a volunteer Ombudsman for the Illinois Department of Aging, as an
    advocate for long term care residents in nursing homes.

    These recipes are authentic, pre World War One family recipes from the Austro-Hungarian Empire and Alsace-Lorraine. The recipes were never
    written down, but have been handed down for many generations in my
    family, by example. I want to preserve these recipes for my children, grandchildren and great grandchildren, and all the generations of other families who thought these recipes were lost to them.

    Ms. Meyer passed on October 13, 2022 at the age of 96.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: June Meyer's Authentic Hungarian Stuffed Cabbage (Sorma)
    Categories: Pork, Beef, Vegetables, Herbs
    Yield: 6 Servings

    3/4 lb Ground pork *
    3/4 lb Ground beef *
    1/2 lb Hungarian sausage or mild
    - Pepperoni; sliced 1"
    2 lg Raw eggs
    2 ts Salt
    1 tb Paprika
    1/2 ts Peppercorns
    3/4 lb Raw rice
    2 lg Turkish bay (laurel) leaves
    2 lg White onions; chopped
    3 tb Shortening, peanut oil or
    - lard
    1 lg Head cabbage
    32 oz Bottle or bag sauerkraut;
    - rinsed in cold water

    * you can also make it with all ground beef

    Brown the chopped onion in shortening, and place in
    mixing bowl with ground meats, raw eggs, uncooked rice,
    paprika, salt.

    Mix well with your clean hands.

    Take out the core of the cabbage. Leave head whole.
    Place in large pot of boiling water to wilt the outer
    leaves. You will be able to gently pull off whole
    cabbage leaves. Trim off thick center vein of cabbage
    leaves. Make a pile of leaves on your work station. You
    may want to shake excess water off.

    Place 2 Tbsp. of meat and rice mixture on a leaf
    (starting at the thick end) and roll it up and tuck in
    ends with your finger.

    Make as many as you can. Arrange the rolls in cooking
    pot. Put a few chunks of sausage here and there between
    the rolls.

    Cover the rolls two-thirds full of water, arrange rinsed
    sauerkraut on top, sprinkle over the peper corns and the
    bay leaves on top, COVER and cook slowly for about 1 1/2
    hours, or until the rice is tender.

    The rolls are piled on a bed of silky sauerkraut.

    Serves 6. (Serve with good crusty bread and cold beer.)

    June Meyer's Authentic Hungarian Heirloom Recipes Cookbook

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.junemeyer.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Dave Drum on Wed May 29 15:08:38 2024
    Re: Re: Goulash
    By: Dave Drum to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun May 26 2024 06:32 am

    Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Dave, you might have missed that the names are regional. Burgoo is far more than Kentucky. The name is applied to any meat containing goulash in some parts of the USA.

    Actually, no. I didn't. Burgoo stared in Kentucky as a community based road-kill stew and was named there. No matter its similarities to gulyas
    or Mulligan stew ("invented" in American 'hobo jungles').

    But Americans will file the serial numbers off of anything and claim it
    as their own.

    Americans changed it all over time so it's not the pure African or Hungarian roots anymore. Happens all the time!

    Us crazy Americans will insist on corruptiing other's regional cuisine. Hell, we even put pineapple on pizza. And have been known to salt our
    beer. Not to mention the obscenities we visit on chilli con carne -
    turnng it into chilli con carnage. Bv)=

    And don't get me started on what we've inflicted on Oriental food.
    I mean chow mein noodles - from a can??? Are you kidding me??? Then
    there's this ....

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: American Chop Suey II
    Categories: Five, Pasta, Beef, Vegetables
    Yield: 5 Servings

    16 oz Pkg uncooked elbow macaroni
    1 lb Ground beef
    1 lg Onion; chopped
    21 1/2 oz (2 cans) tomato soup
    Salt & pepper to taste

    Cook macaroni according to package directions.

    Meanwhile, in a separate large skillet over medium high
    heat, saute the ground beef and the onion for 5 to 10
    minutes, or until meat is browned and crumbly. Drain
    thoroughly and leave the meat and onion in the skillet.
    Pour the two cans of tomato soup into the skillet and
    stir well to combine.

    When noodles are done, drain thoroughly and return noodles
    to the pot. Add the hamburger mixture from the skillet to
    the pot. Mix well and season with salt and pepper to
    taste.

    UDD SEZ: Beg to differ. This is much more like my Mom's
    slumgullion than anything remotely approaching chop suey
    (the San Fransisco Treat)

    Recipe By: April Stevens

    RECIPE FROM: http://allrecipes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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    Ugg, that's not even remotely 'chop suey' by any stretch.

    Chop suey is claimed by the americans but was devised by Chinese railway workers it seems. Lots of variation but it's likely roots are an americanized version from Chinese immigrants, based on available products.

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Wed May 29 15:22:26 2024
    Re: Ravioli
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat May 25 2024 11:41 am

    Hi Carol,

    Nothing left for the dogs?

    Oh, my poor Dog Jack! He's rescue and apparently never had a dental 5 teeth extracted (1,149$!!). He's almost 9 and had to be done, but gosh, even the cat is being nice to him today.

    Poor puppy! No more gnawing on rawhide treats, pig's ears (that was Sam's--our cocker spaniel--favorite) and so on. Hopefully he has enough teeth yet that he can crunch on dry foods; the idea of wet dog food for the rest of his life is probably not very appealing.

    They say crunchy in one more week for Gentle Jack. I am swapping his kibble to a new 'limited diet' used for dog food allergies. He's on wheat, corn and soy free right now but it's not handling the allergies fully. The vet is saying now there's something odd about the beagles, like a bad backyard breeder?

    I never had a beagle so couldn't answer if they have allergy quirks or
    not. When Sam got older, he liked his dry kibble moistened a bit. If we
    had it on hand, we'd use broth or gravy but he would be happy with just water on it. We'd occaisionally give him canned dog food, usually when
    we had to hide a pill--gave him just enough to hide the pill and mix it
    in with the dry food,

    As far as sweet cole slaw--my MIL gave me the cole slaw recipe I make
    99% of the time; it has just a sprinkle (maybe a tablespoon, at most,)
    of sugar. Otherwise, it's cabbage, shredded carrot, pineapple, little
    bits each of s&P, pineapple juice and mayo. I'll usually use crushed pineapple or cut up rings/tidbits into small pieces. Best cole slaw I've ever tasted and the one we judge others by.



    Well, it seems a 'thing' with local beagles, hence bad local breeders related to it's commonality.

    As to your coleslaw, sorry but I pass. WAAYY too sweet for me, but then I have no sweet tooth. It's hard to like something if it makes you feel sick due to metabolizm issues with it.

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to MIKE POWELL on Thu May 30 06:33:00 2024
    Quoting Mike Powell to Shawn Highfield <=-

    You know someone
    would have eventually tried it even without Sam.
    That is probably also true, unfortunately!

    LOL

    -!- Talisman v0.53-dev (Linux/armv7l)

    That reminds me. Somehow I'm in your trashcan file, when I connect
    it just hangs up on me. Currently 142.198.168.248 but that seems to
    change quite often.

    Shawn

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Carol Shenkenberger on Thu May 30 05:54:00 2024
    Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Us crazy Americans will insist on corrupting other's regional cuisine.
    Hell, we even put pineapple on pizza. And have been known to salt our
    beer. Not to mention the obscenities we visit on chilli con carne -
    turnng it into chilli con carnage. Bv)=

    And don't get me started on what we've inflicted on Oriental food.
    I mean chow mein noodles - from a can??? Are you kidding me??? Then
    there's this ....

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: American Chop Suey II
    Categories: Five, Pasta, Beef, Vegetables
    Yield: 5 Servings

    16 oz Pkg uncooked elbow macaroni
    1 lb Ground beef
    1 lg Onion; chopped
    21 1/2 oz (2 cans) tomato soup
    Salt & pepper to taste

    Ugg, that's not even remotely 'chop suey' by any stretch.

    Of course you realise that Chun King (brand) is not Chinese.

    Chop suey is claimed by the americans but was devised by Chinese
    railway workers it seems. Lots of variation but it's likely roots are
    an americanized version from Chinese immigrants, based on available products.

    The legend I heard has it "invented" in Gay Bay (San Franciso) by Anglos
    not in their largish "Chinatown".

    I remember my grandmother treating me and my sister to this at our local
    Five and Dime (yes, I DO remember actual "dime" stores). In my town we
    had S.S. Kressge (which grew into K-Mart), Woolworth's (which morphed to Woolco). And a Ben Franklin store which jus, afaik, evaporated.

    Also heard this "legend" The Oxford Companion to American Food and Drink
    as a main source. That book states: "A likely origin for American chop
    suey is the recipe for Chop Suey Stew in the `1916 Manual for Army Cooks',
    an urtext for many institutional foods of the twentieth century. The army recipe could be made with either beef round or pork shoulder, beef stock, barbecue sauce, and salt."

    I found that quote in a nice discussion of the dish at: https://sampan.org/2021/history/the-origins-of-american-chop-suey/

    Definitely worth a read.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Woolworth's Lunch Counter Chop Suey Chow Mein
    Categories: Pork, Rice, Vegetables, Mushrooms
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 tb Lard
    1 1/2 lb Pork; in 1/2" cubes
    Salt & pepper
    Flour
    1 lg Spanish onion; diced
    3 c Sliced celery
    3 tb Soy sauce; regular strength
    2 tb Molasses
    1 c Liquid drained from veggies
    8 oz Canned mushrooms
    16 oz Canned Oriental Vegetables
    Sticky steamed white rice
    Fried chow mein noodles
    Soy sauce

    PRESSURE COOKER -- Heat shortening in cooker. Dust meat
    lightly with seasoned flour. Brown meat in batches in
    hot, smoky oil. Add onion, celery, soy, molasses, and
    liquids from canned vegetables. Cover. Set rocker (pot
    only had one pressure setting). Heat until you get a
    steady rocking and cook 10 minutes. Cool of its own
    accord. Stir in vegetables and heat through.

    Serve: chow mein noodles on bottom; 2 scoops of rice; 1
    ladleful of chop suey; extra soy sauce. (And they always
    brought catsup.)

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Shawn Highfield on Thu May 30 05:59:00 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    Quoting Dave Drum to Shawn Highfield <=-

    We see blueberries adverted by the U-picks and farm stands around mid June. Now they're hustling asparagus and rhubarb.

    asparagus and rhubarb is here too. Only time of year I bother with it.

    Here's a nice asparaguse soup recipe from a Quebecios lady who was on
    the echo when I first joined back in the 90s. It's really pretty good.

    Saved. Pretty simple soup that looks to be a good way to use up that asparagus before it goes off. Thanks Dave!

    Soetimes the simple recipes are the best. At 82 (as of today) my taster
    no longer does "subtle". So I likes the bold flavors. Bv)=

    Fingered out where I'm going to put my asparagus bed. Now all I have
    to do is find a willing kid to dig the trench for the roots. I haven't
    been able to run an idiot stick since my doctor told me to cease.

    Here's a bold flavour asparagus recipe. The problem I found is that it's
    so *bold* that I can't taste the asparagus. Just the other main items.

    Sure does liven up a party, though.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Bacon-Wrapped Sriracha Asparagus
    Categories: Five, Sides, Pork, Vegetables, Chilies
    Yield: 15 Servings

    1 lb Sliced smoked bacon
    1 lb Fresh asparagus spears;
    - trimmed
    5 tb Shark Brand Sriracha sauce *

    * "Rooster (Huy Fong) sauce may be substituted but be
    sure to stir into it a healthy pinch of garlic powder.

    Preheat grill for medium heat and lightly oil the grate.

    Divide asparagus into sets of 3 spears; push 1 toothpick
    through the asparagus bases and 1 toothpick near the tops
    to secure the sets.

    Spread about 1 teaspoon sriracha sauce along the entire
    length of each slice of bacon.

    Secure a slice of bacon to the asparagus using the
    toothpick at the base of the asparagus and wrap bacon,
    sriracha-side facing inwards, around asparagus, securing
    the other end of the bacon to the top toothpick; repeat
    with remaining bacon and asparagus. Place wrapped
    asparagus sets in the bottom of a disposable aluminum foil
    pan.

    Cook on the preheated grill, turning asparagus sets
    occasionally, until bacon is cooked through and crisp,
    about 20 minutes.

    Recipe by: Donald Duboo

    RECIPE FROM: http://allrecipes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Wed May 29 19:43:45 2024
    Hi Shawn,


    available or none of the other choices are ones I like. Given a choice tho, Thousand Island is my #1 pick. As for vinegar based cole slaw,

    We recently got some thousand island, I had not had it in years. I
    found it too sweet. I do really like it on burgers though!

    We each have our own tastes. I make my own sorta Thousand Island
    dressing with ketchup, mayonaise and pickle relish, just putting some
    of each in a small bowl, not measuring, whatever looks right.

    For burgers, if I have everything on hand, it's pickle relish, tomato
    slice, lettuce leaf and (optional) onion slice. I usually don't have all
    of that on hand so will settle for just pickle relish and ketchup. (G)


    ---
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    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Wed May 29 19:50:26 2024
    Hi Shawn,


    And you find you're using it a lot more than you thought you would?
    We've found that to be true of so many things we've bought over the
    years.

    Yes, I use the sucky bag way more then I thought I would. :)

    We just put some Italian sausage and Polish sausage in the freezer, both packages subdivided into meal portions and sealed. I've got a lot put up
    in the freezer in those bags, makes it easy to do portion control.


    because it's in the stores into fall. Best watermelon you can get is a Bogue Sound melon, Bogue Sound being down on the coast of NC, off of
    the Intracoastal Waterway. We used to live near there and learned to appreciate good watermelon.

    Living where I do... I'd have to google if they grow here or not.
    I've had good watermelon but most of the time it's "edable"
    watermelon.

    A Bogue Sound melon would have to be imported into Canada for you to
    enjoy. I like other melons better than watermelon but do eat some from
    time to time.


    Sounds good to me. Last year at a barn sale (indoor yard sale, in a
    barn) I found a small pie pan, maybe 7" diameter. Good for pies when
    you don't have a lot of filler or don't want a big pie. I've got some strawberries left over from making a bigger pie that will probably
    fill the small pan quite nicely. (G)

    I'm on the hunt for something like that. I've seen them new but like
    you I'd rather find a deal for one. :)

    We just happened on the sale, it was out of town proper as we were
    headed to something else. We'd been looking for a small table to hold
    some audio/visual equipment for church so stopped at the sale to look.
    Found just the right table and the pie pan, total of (IIRC) $10.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed May 29 20:00:05 2024
    Hi Dave,

    I do it both ways. And as a dipper for French Dip sandwiches (if I
    grab the consomme insteadof the broth).

    I keep soup base (both chicken and beef flavors) on hand. Wegman's
    sells kimmelweck rolls so every so often we'll buy some rolls and
    sliced roast beef. Heat some beef base and water, dip beef in that to
    heat slightly, put on (sliced) rolls and add more juice if desired.
    Easy meal, add chips, salad, or other side of choice.

    IOW German Dip instead of French Dip (or maybe Buffalo Dip as that's
    where Beef on Weck originated in this country.

    Whatever you want to call it, we call it good eating. (G)


    I only count two courses--broth with noodles, then meat and vegetables.
    It does look good, no matter how you count it tho.

    Good catch. I'd not noticed that and I've read (and cooked) that
    recipe several ties.

    My first reading it, it seemed a bit off so I re-read it slower and
    only counted 2 courses. Somebody can't count or add. (G)

    Well, maybe math isn't her first language. Bv)= She do have some
    good (and authentic) recipes, though. And some not so authentic - to
    wit:

    Authentic can vary a lot, even from cook to cook within the same
    country.

    All of June's recipes that I have tried have been good. Even if her subject sometimes disagrees with her predicate.

    Was English her first language?

    Dunno. Lemme look. To wit:

    Who is June Meyer? I am a retired elementary school Art Teacher. I
    Ms. Meyer passed on October 13, 2022 at the age of 96.

    I'd never head of her until I saw recipies you posted.


    Title: June Meyer's Authentic Hungarian Stuffed Cabbage (Sorma)
    Categories: Pork, Beef, Vegetables, Herbs
    Yield: 6 Servings


    June Meyer's Authentic Hungarian Heirloom Recipes Cookbook

    I think I've still got a Paprika Weiss cookbook around, have to see if
    they have a similar recipe and how it compares.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/905 to SHAWN HIGHFIELD on Thu May 30 09:24:00 2024
    -!- Talisman v0.53-dev (Linux/armv7l)

    That reminds me. Somehow I'm in your trashcan file, when I connect
    it just hangs up on me. Currently 142.198.168.248 but that seems to
    change quite often.

    Actually it appears that port 24 is broken again. Try 2122 instead. I
    just tested them both and 2122 is working. Sorry about that.

    Mike

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Fri May 31 04:48:36 2024
    Quoting Dave Drum to Shawn Highfield <=-

    Soetimes the simple recipes are the best. At 82 (as of today) my

    Happy birthday.

    taster no longer does "subtle". So I likes the bold flavors. Bv)=

    I'm okay either way still. I don't think I'll see 82 so I won't need
    to worry about that. :)

    to do is find a willing kid to dig the trench for the roots. I haven't been able to run an idiot stick since my doctor told me to cease.

    Good luck. Hopefuly one of the kids will step up.

    Sure does liven up a party, though.

    I'd like it, but it would kill Andrea who thinks black pepper is very
    spicy.

    Shawn

    ... My hard drive is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing...
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Fri May 31 04:50:47 2024
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Shawn Highfield <=-

    We each have our own tastes. I make my own sorta Thousand Island
    dressing with ketchup, mayonaise and pickle relish, just putting some
    of each in a small bowl, not measuring, whatever looks right.

    So this I would like a bit more as I could use a less sweet relish.
    But as I said for "burger sauce" it's one of the best there is IMO.

    For burgers, if I have everything on hand, it's pickle relish, tomato slice, lettuce leaf and (optional) onion slice. I usually don't have
    all of that on hand so will settle for just pickle relish and ketchup.

    Slice of tomato, onion and mustard does it for me. Maybe dill pickle too
    if we have them.

    Shawn

    ... Useless Invention: Kickstand for a tank.
    --- Blue Wave/386 v2.30
    * Origin: Outpost BBS * Johnson City, TN (1:18/200)
  • From Shawn Highfield@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Fri May 31 04:52:38 2024
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Shawn Highfield <=-

    both packages subdivided into meal portions and sealed. I've got a lot
    put up in the freezer in those bags, makes it easy to do portion
    control.

    100%. I will buy the club packs of meat when it's on sale and split it for
    the two of us.

    Found just the right table and the pie pan, total of (IIRC) $10.

    These are the best deals aren't they? ;) I found my favorite cast iron
    pan that way.

    Shawn

    ... 82.6% of statistics are wrong...
    --- Blue Wave/386 v2.30
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:18/200 to Mike Powell on Fri May 31 04:55:54 2024
    Quoting Mike Powell to SHAWN HIGHFIELD <=-

    Actually it appears that port 24 is broken again. Try 2122 instead.
    I just tested them both and 2122 is working. Sorry about that.

    No problem, made the change on my end. Will give it a test if I have
    a decent connection when uploading this packet.

    Slept like a baby last night but woke up at 3:30am. LOL It's just so
    quiet here. Now 5am so birds are starting to sing and I expect my friend "Ginger Spaz" the squirrel will be here soon demanding his tribute.
    He comes right up to my sliding door and "knocks" until I go outside and
    feed him peanuts. He sits by my foot and takes them one by one very
    dainty from my hand.

    Shawn

    ... My girlfriend said I never listen to her, or something...
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/107 to Shawn Highfield on Fri May 31 09:02:22 2024
    Actually it appears that port 24 is broken again. Try 2122
    instead.
    I just tested them both and 2122 is working. Sorry about that.

    No problem, made the change on my end. Will give it a test if I have
    a decent connection when uploading this packet.

    Small ooopsie on my part... port 2122 is SSH. ;) Telnet should work on
    port 7636. I need to figure out why the redirect from 24 is not working.



    --- Talisman v0.53-dev (Linux/armv7l)
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/107 to Shawn Highfield on Fri May 31 09:05:09 2024
    Slept like a baby last night but woke up at 3:30am. LOL It's just so
    quiet here. Now 5am so birds are starting to sing and I expect my
    friend
    "Ginger Spaz" the squirrel will be here soon demanding his tribute.
    He comes right up to my sliding door and "knocks" until I go outside
    and
    feed him peanuts. He sits by my foot and takes them one by one very
    dainty from my hand.

    That is good that it is quiet, as opposed to overly loud.

    That is pretty neat. How long has Ginger been visiting? A neighbor a
    couple of houses up feeds the squirrels peanuts in the shell each
    morning. I became aware of this when I would find peanuts, with one
    chamber empty and one full, burried in my flower beds.

    Another neighbor told me about the feedings. Now that I know I can tell
    when she is feeding them... all the squirrels on the court come out of
    the trees and head up the street to her house!



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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/107 to Shawn Highfield on Fri May 31 10:41:03 2024
    No problem, made the change on my end. Will give it a test if I
    have
    a decent connection when uploading this packet.

    Small ooopsie on my part... port 2122 is SSH. ;) Telnet should work
    on
    port 7636. I need to figure out why the redirect from 24 is not
    working.


    24 is now working. Sysop boo-boo. I had the local haproxy host system blacklisted in Talisman for testing purposes and forgot to take it out!

    Mike

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Mike Powell on Fri May 31 14:44:38 2024
    Re: Goulash
    By: Mike Powell to SHAWN HIGHFIELD on Thu May 30 2024 09:24 am

    -!- Talisman v0.53-dev (Linux/armv7l)

    That reminds me. Somehow I'm in your trashcan file, when I connect
    it just hangs up on me. Currently 142.198.168.248 but that seems to change quite often.

    Actually it appears that port 24 is broken again. Try 2122 instead. I
    just tested them both and 2122 is working. Sorry about that.

    Mike

    * SLMR 2.1a * Justice is lost, Justice is raped, Justice is gone.

    Shawn could also be trying to connect with a stealth setting of 'no name'. Due to all the scamming bots, most block that. If so, he has to turn it off.
    xxcarol
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to MIKE POWELL on Sat Jun 1 06:12:00 2024
    Quoting Mike Powell to Shawn Highfield <=-

    That is pretty neat. How long has Ginger been visiting? A neighbor a

    He started last year. I am a bit worried though I was in the woods Thurs
    and yesterday until evening and he didn't visit me. Either found a sucker
    who has more food or....

    Another neighbor told me about the feedings. Now that I know I can
    tell when she is feeding them... all the squirrels on the court come
    out of the trees and head up the street to her house!

    Laugh. It drives Andrea nuts when I feed them. "They are gonna move
    under the trailer and eat the floor" etc. In I don't know how many years
    they haven't yet. ;)

    Shawn

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to MIKE POWELL on Sat Jun 1 06:16:00 2024
    Quoting Mike Powell to Shawn Highfield <=-

    Small ooopsie on my part... port 2122 is SSH. ;) Telnet should work
    on port 7636. I need to figure out why the redirect from 24 is not working.

    That's okay I had an account and SSH worked! ;)

    Shawn

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to CAROL SHENKENBERGER on Sat Jun 1 06:17:00 2024
    Quoting Carol Shenkenberger to Mike Powell <=-

    Shawn could also be trying to connect with a stealth setting of 'no
    name'. Due to all the scamming bots, most block that. If so, he has
    to turn it off.

    ? You must have me confused with someone else. I connect with my real
    name, the same as I have since 1985. I've never even heard of no name
    for logging into a BBS?

    Shawn

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Shawn Highfield on Sat Jun 1 06:22:00 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Oddly this shoed up everywhere *EXCEPT* Outpost - where it was posted.

    Soetimes the simple recipes are the best. At 82 (as of today) my

    Happy birthday.

    taster no longer does "subtle". So I likes the bold flavors. Bv)=

    I'm okay either way still. I don't think I'll see 82 so I won't need
    to worry about that. :)

    One never knows, Both of my parents snuffed it in their mid-50s. So, I
    hadn't a klew I'd still be feeling decent (except for a few wobbles and
    a part that no longer works except as a fire hose) and loking forward
    to possibly retiring one day.

    to do is find a willing kid to dig the trench for the roots. I haven't been able to run an idiot stick since my doctor told me to cease.

    Good luck. Hopefuly one of the kids will step up.

    I've put the word out. Besides digging the trenches for the roots I'll
    need him/her to move 4 cubic yards of Central Illinois black topsoil
    into the planters/containers.

    Sure does liven up a party, though.

    I'd like it, but it would kill Andrea who thinks black pepper is very spicy.

    Heat tolerance seems to be an aquired thing. And like muscle tone it
    has to be maintained. I know my tolerance has slid down the scale since
    I quit cooking chilli in competitions. Ah well. I've got some prik kee
    noo (Bird's Eye) chilies growing in a window box. Maybe I'll make another
    batch of my Yaaahhh Hoooaaa Aahhh Hot Sauce.

    Especially since Who Flung Foo is having trouble getting enough chilies
    for their Rooster Sauce.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Yaaaaahhhh Hooooooo Aaaaahhhh Hot Sauce
    Categories: Five, Sauces, Chilies, Garlic
    Yield: 1 Quart

    1 qt Mason jar
    1 tb Salt; plain, non-iodized
    1 pt Chilies; dried Serrano,
    - Cayenne, Tabasco, etc.
    1 pt Garlic cloves; peeled
    Distilled white vinegar

    Fill the Mason jar with the dried chilies and peeled
    garlic. Dissolve the tablespoon of salt in a cup of
    white vinegar and pour over the chilies and garlic.
    Top up the jar with more vinegar and put the jar in
    a low traffic area to let the chilies rehydrate for
    a day or a few weeks. Add vinegar as needed to keep
    the jar full.

    When the chilies are rehydrated empty the contents of
    the jar into a blender or food processor and puree.
    Add vinegar (or water) to get to your desired
    thickness. I like mine to be fairly thick (like catsup
    with an attitude) instead of runny like Tabasco. As
    there is plenty of vegetable pulp in this mix, thick
    is easy.

    You can decant into smaller bottles or keep in the
    quart jug.

    I have kept some in the ice box for as long as five
    weeks with no ill effects. I can't seem to get it to
    last any longer than that. Apparently the longer it
    sits in the ice box the more of it disappears.

    This is a moderately successful attempt to make my own
    "Huy Fong Sriracha Sauce". It's more garlicky than Huy
    Fong and moderately spicy and goes well on almost
    anything. Which, I suspect is why I have never had a
    batch last more than five weeks.

    Devised, made. tested, named and approved in Uncle
    Dirty Dave's Kitchen. In the heart of the Great
    American Outback.

    MM Format and Recipe by Dave Drum - 23 February 1998

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/107 to Shawn Highfield on Sat Jun 1 08:41:22 2024
    Laugh. It drives Andrea nuts when I feed them. "They are gonna move
    under the trailer and eat the floor" etc. In I don't know how many
    years
    they haven't yet. ;)

    Most squirrels around here live in trees. I have not known them to get
    under things. Chipmunks, on the other hand... ;)

    Mike


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Thu May 30 11:56:41 2024
    Hi Carol,

    As far as sweet cole slaw--my MIL gave me the cole slaw recipe I make
    99% of the time; it has just a sprinkle (maybe a tablespoon, at most,)
    of sugar. Otherwise, it's cabbage, shredded carrot, pineapple, little
    bits each of s&P, pineapple juice and mayo. I'll usually use crushed pineapple or cut up rings/tidbits into small pieces. Best cole slaw I've ever tasted and the one we judge others by.

    Well, it seems a 'thing' with local beagles, hence bad local breeders related to it's commonality.

    They are cute dogs; Steve's family had a number of them when he was
    growing up. I met him when the last one was in his later years.


    As to your coleslaw, sorry but I pass. WAAYY too sweet for me, but
    then I have no sweet tooth. It's hard to like something if it makes
    you feel sick due to metabolizm issues with it.

    I understand. I don't get physically sick with any of my dislikes but a
    couple of them do make my stomach turn, mentally.

    We are starting to get summer produce at the local farmer's market now.
    Last week Steve picked up some fresh lettuce, tomatoes, cucumbers and
    beets. The lettuce and tomato are going into a BLT for today's lunch.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... I am positive that a definite maybe is probably in order.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Fri May 31 13:36:08 2024
    Hi Shawn,


    We each have our own tastes. I make my own sorta Thousand Island
    dressing with ketchup, mayonaise and pickle relish, just putting some
    of each in a small bowl, not measuring, whatever looks right.

    So this I would like a bit more as I could use a less sweet relish.
    But as I said for "burger sauce" it's one of the best there is IMO.

    I use Wegman's sweet pickle relish. They do have a dill pickle relish
    also, tried it but prefer the sweet. IIRC, Mount Olive (pickles, relish,
    etc based in Mout Olive, NC) makes both a sweet and dill relish. That
    brand is sold nationwide but don't know if it's imported to Canada.

    Last night's supper was a burger on bun with a slice of tomato and about
    a teaspoon of pickle relish. Put the relish on the burger, then the
    tomato slice so it held together quite well. Had corn chips (Steve had
    sweet potato chips.) and lightly pickled cucumber & onion to go with it.


    For burgers, if I have everything on hand, it's pickle relish, tomato slice, lettuce leaf and (optional) onion slice. I usually don't have
    all of that on hand so will settle for just pickle relish and ketchup.

    Slice of tomato, onion and mustard does it for me. Maybe dill pickle
    too if we have them.

    You would probably like the dill relish if you can find it. I like dill
    pickles as a side but not in a sandwich.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... I am positive that a definite maybe is probably in order.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Fri May 31 13:42:59 2024
    Hi Shawn,


    both packages subdivided into meal portions and sealed. I've got a lot
    put up in the freezer in those bags, makes it easy to do portion
    control.

    100%. I will buy the club packs of meat when it's on sale and split
    it for the two of us.

    I've bought the larger packages of various meats and split them into
    smaller packs. Years ago we would buy whole chickens and I would cut
    them up myself but now I buy the pieces we want; the budget has improved
    over the years.


    Found just the right table and the pie pan, total of (IIRC) $10.

    These are the best deals aren't they? ;) I found my favorite cast
    iron pan that way.

    We've found a number of things that way. A few weeks ago, I could have
    gotten a lot of cake decorating stuff for free but I don't do much of
    that any more. Steve got a hand truck for free at the same yard sale.
    Haven't gotten any cast iron for free yet (except a wedding shower
    piece and one from my MIL) but I can still hold out hope. (G)



    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Our necessities are few but our wants are endless...

    --- PPoint 3.01
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/905 to CAROL SHENKENBERGER on Sat Jun 1 10:05:00 2024
    Actually it appears that port 24 is broken again. Try 2122 instead. I just tested them both and 2122 is working. Sorry about that.

    Shawn could also be trying to connect with a stealth setting of 'no name'. Du
    to all the scamming bots, most block that. If so, he has to turn it off.

    It was a problem here. That said, if you try to use SSH with my Synchronet system and don't provide a name, I am pretty sure it will prompt for it...
    at least, if you are calling using syncterm it will.

    Magicka used to hang up if the name was not included in the connection
    request. I am not sure what Talisman does.

    Mike

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:2320/107 to Dave Drum on Sun Jun 2 06:17:01 2024
    Quoting Dave Drum to Shawn Highfield <=-

    Oddly this shoed up everywhere *EXCEPT* Outpost - where it was posted.

    That is odd. I'm just a user now, bounce between outpost, pharcyde (i'd
    say is my main call now) and another millennium. Oh and possum lodge!

    One never knows, Both of my parents snuffed it in their mid-50s. So, I

    I've had some health issues already that have shortened my lifespan, but honestly I've had a full life and done pretty much everything I ever wanted
    to. I wish I didn't have to work but other then that....

    and a part that no longer works except as a fire hose) and loking
    forward to possibly retiring one day.

    I wish. :)

    Heat tolerance seems to be an aquired thing. And like muscle tone it
    has to be maintained. I know my tolerance has slid down the scale

    She's just never been able to take it. She's pretty white.

    prik kee noo (Bird's Eye) chilies growing in a window box. Maybe I'll
    make another batch of my Yaaahhh Hoooaaa Aahhh Hot Sauce.

    I need to make my hot sauce. I don't really have a recipe but I have
    3 peppers, garlic, peaches, and this and that in it. More flavour then
    heat as I don't have the tolerance I used to.

    Especially since Who Flung Foo is having trouble getting enough
    chilies for their Rooster Sauce.

    Yeah.. I'm not going to die without rooster sauce, but it is handy when
    I'm too lazy to make my own.

    Shawn

    ... Great! Now if we can just keep it from exploding!

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:2320/107 to Mike Powell on Sun Jun 2 06:25:09 2024
    Quoting Mike Powell to Shawn Highfield <=-

    Most squirrels around here live in trees. I have not known them to
    get under things. Chipmunks, on the other hand... ;)

    About 10 years ago I had a chipmunk (named him Frank) who would climb
    my leg and sit on my knee. I was allowed to pet him with the back of
    ONE FINGER exactly three times. If I did 4 he yelled, less then 3 and
    he yelled. I think Frank ate (or hid) hundreds of $ worth of peanuts
    that year.

    Sadly he wasn't there in the spring.

    Shawn

    ... If its stupid and it works - its not stupid

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to RUTH HAFFLY on Sun Jun 2 07:39:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly was heard saying....

    I've bought the larger packages of various meats and split them into smaller packs.

    The only way to go.

    Years ago we would buy whole chickens and I would cut
    up myself but now I buy the pieces we want; the budget has improved
    over the years.

    When I see whole chickens at an affordable price I cook 'em whole. LOL
    They are sooooo expensve here now. I've seen small chickens as high as
    $21 this year. Even the local asian market for old hens went from $3 to
    $8 for the same old tough stewing hen.

    Haven't gotten any cast iron for free yet (except a wedding shower
    piece and one from my MIL) but I can still hold out hope. (G)

    When you least expect it!




    Shawn

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to SHAWN HIGHFIELD on Sun Jun 2 09:17:00 2024
    About 10 years ago I had a chipmunk (named him Frank) who would climb
    my leg and sit on my knee. I was allowed to pet him with the back of
    ONE FINGER exactly three times. If I did 4 he yelled, less then 3 and
    he yelled. I think Frank ate (or hid) hundreds of $ worth of peanuts
    that year.

    Sadly he wasn't there in the spring.

    Maybe he was spending that year living off of his "profits." We can always hope!

    Mike


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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Shawn Highfield on Sat Jun 1 17:10:11 2024
    Re: Goulash
    By: Shawn Highfield to CAROL SHENKENBERGER on Sat Jun 01 2024 06:17 am

    Quoting Carol Shenkenberger to Mike Powell <=-

    Shawn could also be trying to connect with a stealth setting of 'no name'. Due to all the scamming bots, most block that. If so, he has to turn it off.

    ? You must have me confused with someone else. I connect with my real name, the same as I have since 1985. I've never even heard of no name
    for logging into a BBS?

    Shawn

    ... A wise man once said... I don't know.

    It's browser thing, not your login name.

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Mike Powell on Sat Jun 1 17:42:23 2024
    Re: Goulash
    By: Mike Powell to CAROL SHENKENBERGER on Sat Jun 01 2024 10:05 am

    Actually it appears that port 24 is broken again. Try 2122 instead. I just tested them both and 2122 is working. Sorry about that.

    Shawn could also be trying to connect with a stealth setting of 'no name'.
    Du
    to all the scamming bots, most block that. If so, he has to turn it off.

    It was a problem here. That said, if you try to use SSH with my Synchronet system and don't provide a name, I am pretty sure it will prompt for it... at least, if you are calling using syncterm it will.

    Magicka used to hang up if the name was not included in the connection request. I am not sure what Talisman does.

    Mike

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    Mike this one, happily was figured out but in SBBS you have SBBS/text and in there, host.can. among the entries if you have '<no name>', no one trying to hide where they come from, gets in.

    Had it been that, it would have been hard to find and nothing Shawn would see would tell him.

    I'm not sure if 'binkit' would pickup on that block, but I use argus so no relation.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Sun Jun 2 20:00:27 2024
    Hi Shawn,


    I've bought the larger packages of various meats and split them into smaller packs.

    The only way to go.

    Couldn't afford to for a long time. I used to get a fair sized chuck
    roast or other piece of beef, cut it into a smaller roast, stew beef,
    scraps for sitr fry etc but none of the smaller meals had a lot of meat.


    Years ago we would buy whole chickens and I would cut
    up myself but now I buy the pieces we want; the budget has improved
    over the years.

    When I see whole chickens at an affordable price I cook 'em whole.
    LOL They are sooooo expensve here now. I've seen small chickens as
    high as $21 this year. Even the local asian market for old hens went
    from $3 to $8 for the same old tough stewing hen.

    I know that is Canadian $$$ but still, that's a fair chunk of change!


    Haven't gotten any cast iron for free yet (except a wedding shower
    piece and one from my MIL) but I can still hold out hope. (G)

    When you least expect it!

    I know; we're going to Pidgeon Forge, TN for an RV/Radio rally this
    fall. I've already informed Steve that we're stopping at the Lodge cast
    iron outlet in that area. (G)





    Shawn

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    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Shawn Highfield on Mon Jun 3 05:22:00 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Quoting Dave Drum to Shawn Highfield <=-

    Oddly this shoed up everywhere *EXCEPT* Outpost - where it was posted.

    That is odd. I'm just a user now, bounce between outpost, pharcyde
    (i'd say is my main call now) and another millennium. Oh and possum lodge!

    Which is why I commented. I use the three regulars (Outpost, Capital City
    and here (SESTAR) pretty equally. Used to visit Prizm regularly bur it's
    down for the count apparently.

    One never knows, Both of my parents snuffed it in their mid-50s. So, I

    I've had some health issues already that have shortened my lifespan,
    but honestly I've had a full life and done pretty much everything I
    ever wanted to. I wish I didn't have to work but other then that....

    I've been dragged back from the brink by the doctors several times. And
    each time I've learned something new about my body.

    and a part that no longer works except as a fire hose) and loking
    forward to possibly retiring one day.

    I wish. :)

    I could scrape by with just the monthly Social Security cheque. But what
    I make at my job allows me some toys and indulgences. And gets me out
    and a about rather than just vegging out. I've seen too many of my old
    pals quit working, plop down on te couch with a bowl of popcorn and the
    remote control. And soon be carried out feet first by the coroner.

    Heat tolerance seems to be an aquired thing. And like muscle tone it
    has to be maintained. I know my tolerance has slid down the scale

    She's just never been able to take it. She's pretty white.

    People like that are rare but I know they exist.

    prik kee noo (Bird's Eye) chilies growing in a window box. Maybe I'll
    make another batch of my Yaaahhh Hoooaaa Aahhh Hot Sauce.

    I need to make my hot sauce. I don't really have a recipe but I have
    3 peppers, garlic, peaches, and this and that in it. More flavour then heat as I don't have the tolerance I used to.

    Especially since Who Flung Foo is having trouble getting enough
    chilies for their Rooster Sauce.

    Yeah.. I'm not going to die without rooster sauce, but it is handy when I'm too lazy to make my own.

    I actually prefer Shark brand Sriracha which is actually made in Thailand
    while Huy Fong (Rooster sauce) is made in Rancho Cucamonga, Califunny.

    Huy Fong's best product is a co-op between them and Red Gold. A Sriracha Ketchup - that will light up your French fries. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Alabama Picnic Chilli
    Categories: Chilli, Vegetables, Herbs, Chilies, Stews
    Yield: 12 Servings

    5 lb Coarse-ground beef
    1 lg Onion; diced fairly fine
    1/2 c Green bell pepper; diced
    2 tb GFS or Minor's beef base
    1 ts Cocoa (Nestle or Hershey) *
    5 ts Garlic granules
    1 tb Ground cumin
    48 oz Can tomato juice
    5 tb + (3 ts) chilli spice
    1/2 ts Fresh black pepper

    * NOT the hot chocolate drink mix with sugar and other
    nasties that don't go well in my chilli.

    Here is one of mine that is a good starting point for
    experimenting. I use my own chilli mix... but Gebhardt's,
    Mexene or Chilli Man will work pretty well. Ray's Chilli
    owner says he is bringing out a line of chilli mix as soon
    as he finds a spice company to mix and package to his
    recipe. Apparently it has different requirements from using
    spices to can chilli.

    Combine the beef base, tomato juice, chopped veggies, cocoa
    and 4 teaspoons of powdered garlic in a dutch oven over a low
    (simmer) flame.

    Divide the hamburger into three more-or-less equal batches
    and brown it in a separate skillet. Add 1 teaspoon of chilli
    spice per batch. When browned and crumbled drain excess fat
    and add to dutch oven. Repeat until all ground beef is in
    the chilli pot. Add the black pepper to the chilli pot.

    Stir in 1 tablespoon per pound of meat of the chilli powder
    (5 Tb for this batch). Cover pot and let simmer, stirring
    once in a while. When the onions and peppers are cooked
    (about 1 1/2 hr) taste the pot.

    You will probably find that you'll need to add the remaining
    tablespoon of garlic powder and the tablespoon of ground
    cumin. You may also want to add an additional tablespoon of
    chilli powder at this time. Trust me on the garlic and
    cumin. It adds the final kick.

    For those desiring a hotter product add cayenne until your
    lips turn numb and your sinuses drain if you like. I made
    this batch extra-mild in deference to picnic attendees who
    don't handle heat real well. Sadly, Maya Houston thought it
    was still too hot after she tasted a spoonful.

    As noted - this recipe starts extra mild as a base line in
    deference to the non chile heads for whom I made it. Add
    heat or chipotles to suit yourself. Black or pinto beans
    will work - add them AFTER the chilli is cooked.

    From: Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen
    Posted By: Dave Drum, xrated@cityscape.net
    Post Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999

    From: http://www.pepperfool.com

    MMMMM

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:2320/107 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jun 4 05:05:03 2024
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Shawn Highfield <=-

    roast or other piece of beef, cut it into a smaller roast, stew beef, scraps for sitr fry etc but none of the smaller meals had a lot of
    meat.

    I still do that when they have them on sale.

    high as $21 this year. Even the local asian market for old hens went
    from $3 to $8 for the same old tough stewing hen.
    I know that is Canadian $$$ but still, that's a fair chunk of change!

    It's just gone crazy.

    I know; we're going to Pidgeon Forge, TN for an RV/Radio rally this
    fall. I've already informed Steve that we're stopping at the Lodge
    cast iron outlet in that area. (G)

    You are going to sit through Radio stuff, he can deal with shopping at
    lodge. LOL

    Shawn

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:2320/107 to Dave Drum on Tue Jun 4 05:07:30 2024
    Quoting Dave Drum to Shawn Highfield <=-

    I've been dragged back from the brink by the doctors several times.
    And each time I've learned something new about my body.

    That's a good thing.

    I could scrape by with just the monthly Social Security cheque. But

    Mine will be very very small. I didn't pay into the CPP until 2 years ago
    as I was self employeed most of my life.

    what I make at my job allows me some toys and indulgences. And gets me
    out and a about rather than just vegging out. I've seen too many of my
    old pals quit working, plop down on te couch with a bowl of popcorn and the remote control. And soon be carried out feet first by the coroner.

    Agreed there. Even if I won the lottery I would still work weekends or something just to get out and be around people.

    Shawn

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jun 4 05:59:29 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Hi Dave,

    And I'm not a fan of Miracle Whip. I'd use Duke's but been buying an avocado oil based mayo the past few years, has no chemicals in it.

    When I was a kidlet in short pants I used to like it on sandwiches 'cuz
    it had a little "bite" to it that made things interesting. But, I grew
    out of that phase and discovered other condiments that I like better
    for enhancing boring food. Like Woerber's Horseradish Sauce. Or Heinz
    Spicy ketchup (made w/Tabasco)

    Only place in town I've found Duke's is at Sav-A-Lot (a "budget"
    grover) I did see that Taste of Home did a comparo of various
    store0bougt mayos and Duke's was the winner. Hellmans/Best Foods was second and Kraft was far down the list.

    Duke's usually does come out on top. I missed it when we were stationed outside of the deep south, had to make do with others that generally weren't as good. I've been in a Sav-A-Lot a couple of times and been
    less than impressed. Bought a bag of chicken leg quarters one of the times, most of the quarters were broken at the joint, had the tip of
    the drumstick missing or other issues. Don't recall what else we got
    there but it wasn't the quality of main line grocery stores.

    That's down to the operator of the Sav-A-Lotd in your area. The examples
    in my area (central Illinois) are operated by a former IGA franchisee.
    The store in Springfield has been sneaking into the "fresh meat" racket. They've been advertising "meat cut daily" in their flyers but I've not
    seen any indication of a service meat counter w/ a butcher. Bv)=

    As with any market I'm careful (mostly) with what I buy WRT both price
    and quality. The only meat I buy at Sav-A-Lot is prepackaged smoked
    sasusage or lunch meat things. Or their bacon ends 'n' pieces - which
    are great for applications where the bacon is going to be shopped and
    used as flavorant or texture. Regular strip bacon I still buy at GFS -
    where they just finished a Memorial Day sale w/3 lb packages of either
    regular or thick-sliced for U$9.95. I'm now well stocked.

    Mayonnaise isn't that hard to make. Basically just eggs and oil.

    Plus a few (very few) other things but yes, it's one thing I used to do when we didn't have much money.

    I did it a couple of times just to do it. And, like I did with ALDI's
    Deutsche Kuche noodles, went back to buying as a matter of convenience
    and knowing that my home-made (other than the pride/bragging rights)
    wasn't any better. Bv)=

    Title: Copycat KFC Coleslaw
    Categories: Salads, Vegetables, Greens
    Yield: 10 servings

    If you are lucky enough to have a food processor, get it
    out of your cupboard. Start to cut up the cabbage and
    place it in the processor. While cutting up the cabbage,
    also cut up small slices of green pepper, onion, and
    carrot and add to the processor.

    If you do not have a food processor, no problem, simply
    chop the cabbage, onions, and carrots into small pieces.
    Add chopped green bell pepper if desired.

    And that's why I don't like KFC slaw; it's too finely chopped for me.

    It's about the "chop" as Popeyes (and Wendy's). As long as it has some "crunch" in it I'm all right with it.

    All the Popeyes places I've been to have had their cole slaw rougher chopped than the fine stuff I've had at KFC (and other places).

    It may depend on which commisary the franchisee uses for items like that.
    We've only got one KFC store left here (down from 4). I only go there for
    the lunch AYCE buffet with friends - never at my suggestion.

    Title: Classic Mayonnaise
    Categories: Five, Sauces, Eggs
    Yield: 2 Cups

    2 lg Egg yolks
    1 c Oil
    1 tb White wine vinegar
    Salt & fresh ground white
    - pepper
    Mustard powder

    To a medium bowl, add the yolks and whisk until smooth.

    I prefer to do mine in a blender--less strain on the wrists.

    Well, me too - these days. I'm older, i like to think smarter. And more
    lazy. This is an excellent use for the bacon ends 'n' pieces I wrote
    about above:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Ground Bacon Burger
    Categories: Pork, Vegetables, Herbs, Breads
    Yield: 4 Burgers

    2 lb Uncooked bacon
    1/2 lb Bacon; cooked, fine chopped
    2 tb Your favourite BBQ dry rub
    2 c Shredded iceberg lettuce
    2 lg Tomatoes; sliced
    BBQ sauce; optional
    4 Kaiser rolls; split, lightly
    - toasted

    ADDITIONAL TOOLS: Stand mixer w/meat grinder attachment
    or food processor

    Prepare grill for medium-high heat cooking,
    approximately 400ºF/205ºC.

    Rough chop the uncooked bacon and place in the freezer
    for approximately 15 minutes until it begins to firm but
    hasn't frozen through. Once partially frozen, feed it
    through the grinder attachment of a stand mixer or place
    in a food processor and roughly chop.

    Once the bacon has been properly ground, gently mix in
    the chopped cooked bacon then form into 4 burger
    patties. Season patties lightly on both sides with BBQ
    dry rub seasoning.

    Place patties on the grill and cook until they reach a
    minimum internal temperature of 160ºF/71ºC. Remove the
    burger patties from the grill. Assemble burgers by
    spreading BBQ sauce or Mayonnaise on the buns, place
    patty on the bottom bun, followed by shredded iceberg
    lettuce, and 2-3 slices of tomatoes. Add the top bun
    and serve immediately.

    UDD NOTE: A nice slice of Cheddar or Colby cheese is a
    nice touch. Pepper jack, too.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.kingsford.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM




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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jun 4 06:55:55 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

    Haven't gotten any cast iron for free yet (except a wedding shower
    piece and one from my MIL) but I can still hold out hope. (G)

    When you least expect it!

    I know; we're going to Pidgeon Forge, TN for an RV/Radio rally this
    fall. I've already informed Steve that we're stopping at the Lodge cast iron outlet in that area. (G)

    Gonna stop by Dollywood as well? All that blonde hair and beautiful voice
    and she can cook, too. If my ex had been able to cook anywhere close to
    that welll I'd likely have stuck around a lot longer. But Billie Marie
    could (and did) burn water ... more than once. (boiled the pan dry - and
    ruined a nice aluminum saucepan).

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dolly Parton's "Stone Soup"
    Categories: Poultry, Potatoes, Vegetables, Pork
    Yield: 8 servings

    2 qt Chicken broth
    1 lb Russet potatoes; scrubbed,
    - peeled, diced
    14 1/2 oz Can diced tomatoes
    1 sm Head cabbage; coarse
    - chopped
    1 lb Turnips; peeled, diced
    2 lg Carrots; peeled. diced
    1 sm Onion; chopped
    4 cl Garlic; minced
    1 Smoked ham hock
    1 Very clean stone
    Salt & pepper

    Pour the chicken broth into a large stockpot. Add in the
    diced potatoes, diced tomatoes and their liquid, chopped
    cabbage, diced turnips, diced carrot, diced onions,
    minced garlic and ham hock.

    Bring the soup to a boil over medium-high heat. Reduce
    the heat to low and simmer it uncovered for about 2
    hours. Stir the soup occasionally during simmering.

    Scoop the ham hock from the soup and place it on a
    cutting board. Remove the skin and discard. Remove the
    meat and use a sharp knife to dice it. Add the diced
    meat back into the soup, discarding the bone or giving
    it to the dog.

    Taste the soup; it will have some saltiness from the
    stock and ham hock, but you can add more if it needs
    some, along with black pepper to taste. Remove the stone
    from the soup. (You can wash the stone and save it for
    the next batch.) Serve the soup while it's hot. Serve
    your soup along with this pecan chicken salad.

    Dolly Parton, Dollywood, Tennessee

    Makes: 6 - 8 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dolly Parton's Pecan Chicken Salad
    Categories: Poultry, Nuts, Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 4 servings

    3 c Diced, cooked chicken
    3 Celery ribs
    1 sm Onion
    3/4 c Pecan halves
    1/2 c Mayonnaise
    1 tb Dijon mustard
    Salt & pepper
    Watercress or greens for
    - plating

    Dice the celery stalks and small onion. Add to a large
    bowl.

    Add the following ingredients to the celery and onions:
    diced chicken, pecans, mayonnaise and mustard. Mix well
    with a spatula, then use two forks to shred the chicken
    a bit.

    As you're shredding it, the chicken will incorporate the
    mayonnaise and mustard better. The more it's shredded,
    the less chance of a dry bite.

    Season with salt and pepper. Serve immediately or store
    for later. It will be good for up to one week.

    Dolly Parton, Dollywood, Tennessee

    Makes: 6 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RUTH HAFFLY on Tue Jun 4 09:17:00 2024
    Duke's usually does come out on top. I missed it when we were stationed outside of the deep south, had to make do with others that generally
    weren't as good. I've been in a Sav-A-Lot a couple of times and been

    I have lived in Kentucky nearly my entire life but had never heard of
    Duke's until they started sponsoring, and advertising during, college
    football games. Apparently they have a very loyal following.

    Mike


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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Shawn Highfield on Wed Jun 5 05:04:00 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I've been dragged back from the brink by the doctors several times.
    And each time I've learned something new about my body.

    That's a good thing.

    As Winnie the Churchill once said "I always enjoy learning. I do not
    always enjoy being taught". I think that's in my taglines file but I'm
    too lazy (at 04:30) to go check. Bv)=

    I could scrape by with just the monthly Social Security cheque. But

    Mine will be very very small. I didn't pay into the CPP until 2 years
    ago as I was self employeed most of my life.

    US Social Security collects a percentage of self-employment income when
    taxes are filed every year. Up to a maximum amount. A couple of years when
    I was in the printing and graphic arts racket I got tagged for the max.
    Also when I was trailer trucking.

    what I make at my job allows me some toys and indulgences. And gets me
    out and a about rather than just vegging out. I've seen too many of my
    old pals quit working, plop down on te couch with a bowl of popcorn and the remote control. And soon be carried out feet first by the coroner.

    Agreed there. Even if I won the lottery I would still work weekends or something just to get out and be around people.

    My friend (and fellow chilli cook) Les is 87 this year and he still does volunteer work for the local Habitat for Humanity - running their wood
    shop, repairing mildly damaged furniture items, etc. And he sits on the
    boards of a couple non-profits .... still. Although he claims he is
    slowing down - he's amazing. He's had to take it easy the past couple
    of months due to heart issues. But he's chomping at the bit to get back
    to doing .... to the displeasure of his new(ish) wife.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Charity Event Grilled Pineapple Rice
    Categories: Rice, Fruits, Herbs, Citrus
    Yield: 4 Servings

    2 c Prepared jasmine rice
    1 c Chopped, grilled, fresh
    - pineapple
    1/2 c Chopped, grilled, green
    - onions
    1/4 c Rough chopped cilantro
    1/4 c Pineapple juice
    Zest and juice of 1 lime
    Salt

    Prepare rice according to packaging instructions.

    Grill the green onions, turning frequently for about 2-3
    minutes until there are dark brown grill marks.

    Grill the pineapple on each side until there are dark
    brown grill marks.

    Small dice the pineapple and green onion, and rough chop
    the cilantro.

    Add the diced pineapple, green onion, cilantro, lime
    zest, lime juice, and pineapple juice to the rice and
    stir until combined.

    Add salt to taste.

    Servings: 4

    RECIPE FROM: https://recipes.hastybake.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Mike Powell on Wed Jun 5 05:06:00 2024
    Mike Powell wrote to RUTH HAFFLY <=-

    Duke's usually does come out on top. I missed it when we were stationed outside of the deep south, had to make do with others that generally
    weren't as good. I've been in a Sav-A-Lot a couple of times and been

    I have lived in Kentucky nearly my entire life but had never heard of Duke's until they started sponsoring, and advertising during, college football games. Apparently they have a very loyal following.

    In addition to the flagship mayonnaise, which is still made according
    to Eugenia's original recipe in Greenville, SC, Duke's offers light,
    olive oil, and flavoured mayonnaise, tartar sauce, sandwich relish and regionally-inspired Duke's Southern Sauces, mustards, and dressings.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Duke's Tomato Sandwich
    Categories: Vegetables, Breads, Sauces
    Yield: 1 sandwich

    2 sl Bread *
    2 tb Duke's Mayonnaise
    4 sl Beefsteak tomato; 1/4" thick
    Salt & pepper

    Spread 1 tablespoon of mayonnaise on each slice of
    bread. Add tomatoes. Salt and pepper to taste.

    Cut into fourths or sixths depending on the size of
    the bread

    * If you've made my Rustic Cheese Bread use that and
    be prepared for a flavor explosion in your mouth.

    RECIPE FROM: https://dukesmayo.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Tue Jun 4 11:57:02 2024
    Hi Shawn,


    roast or other piece of beef, cut it into a smaller roast, stew beef, scraps for sitr fry etc but none of the smaller meals had a lot of
    meat.

    I still do that when they have them on sale.

    I do from time to time but not as much as I used to. My wrists can't
    hold up for too much meat cutting or other prolonged repetitive motion,
    old injuries plus a bit of carpal tunnel in the one (had it in other but
    fixed, 12 years ago).


    high as $21 this year. Even the local asian market for old hens went
    from $3 to $8 for the same old tough stewing hen.
    I know that is Canadian $$$ but still, that's a fair chunk of change!

    It's just gone crazy.

    For sure!


    I know; we're going to Pidgeon Forge, TN for an RV/Radio rally this
    fall. I've already informed Steve that we're stopping at the Lodge
    cast iron outlet in that area. (G)

    You are going to sit through Radio stuff, he can deal with shopping at lodge. LOL

    I'm also going to check out quilt shops in the area. When we were at a
    rally in TX last year, Steve went with me to one of the local quilt
    shops. They had on display a quilt made with fabrics printed with all
    the TX wildflowers. He was impressed enough with it that we bought all
    of the fabrics needed, plus the pattern and ruler, to make it. I plan to
    do that as a next year project, catch up with some other sewing this
    year.



    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Jun 4 12:06:40 2024
    Hi Dave,


    And I'm not a fan of Miracle Whip. I'd use Duke's but been buying an avocado oil based mayo the past few years, has no chemicals in it.

    When I was a kidlet in short pants I used to like it on sandwiches
    'cuz it had a little "bite" to it that made things interesting. But, I

    My mom always used the Ann Page salad dressing, cheaper than mayo.

    grew
    out of that phase and discovered other condiments that I like better
    for enhancing boring food. Like Woerber's Horseradish Sauce. Or Heinz Spicy ketchup (made w/Tabasco)

    I grew up with spicy brown mustard, with or without horseradish. Steve
    grew up with yellow mustard; when we got married, he converted to spicy
    brown so we weren't buying 2.


    Only place in town I've found Duke's is at Sav-A-Lot (a "budget"
    grover) I did see that Taste of Home did a comparo of various
    store0bougt mayos and Duke's was the winner. Hellmans/Best Foods was second and Kraft was far down the list.

    Duke's usually does come out on top. I missed it when we were stationed outside of the deep south, had to make do with others that generally weren't as good. I've been in a Sav-A-Lot a couple of times and been
    less than impressed. Bought a bag of chicken leg quarters one of the times, most of the quarters were broken at the joint, had the tip of
    the drumstick missing or other issues. Don't recall what else we got
    there but it wasn't the quality of main line grocery stores.

    That's down to the operator of the Sav-A-Lotd in your area. The

    This was up near Nancy's camp on Boyd Pond. I don't think there are any Sav-A-Lots around here. I was in one in FL with my MIL years ago and saw nothing that I'd want to buy.


    As with any market I'm careful (mostly) with what I buy WRT both price
    and quality. The only meat I buy at Sav-A-Lot is prepackaged smoked sasusage or lunch meat things. Or their bacon ends 'n' pieces - which
    are great for applications where the bacon is going to be shopped and
    used as flavorant or texture. Regular strip bacon I still buy at GFS - where they just finished a Memorial Day sale w/3 lb packages of either regular or thick-sliced for U$9.95. I'm now well stocked.

    I know, I don't buy meat at a number of grocey stores, except maybe
    lunch meat. Even then, it's usually bought at Wegman's.


    If you do not have a food processor, no problem, simply
    chop the cabbage, onions, and carrots into small pieces.
    Add chopped green bell pepper if desired.

    And that's why I don't like KFC slaw; it's too finely chopped for me.

    It's about the "chop" as Popeyes (and Wendy's). As long as it has some "crunch" in it I'm all right with it.

    All the Popeyes places I've been to have had their cole slaw rougher chopped than the fine stuff I've had at KFC (and other places).

    It may depend on which commisary the franchisee uses for items like
    that. We've only got one KFC store left here (down from 4). I only go there for the lunch AYCE buffet with friends - never at my suggestion.

    We've not gone to KFC in years, tho there's at least one in WF.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Jun 4 12:22:41 2024
    Hi Dave,

    I know; we're going to Pidgeon Forge, TN for an RV/Radio rally this
    fall. I've already informed Steve that we're stopping at the Lodge cast iron outlet in that area. (G)

    Gonna stop by Dollywood as well? All that blonde hair and beautiful
    voice and she can cook, too. If my ex had been able to cook anywhere
    close to that welll I'd likely have stuck around a lot longer. But

    We'll pass on that, enough other venues to visit (at a better price) in
    the area.

    Billie Marie
    could (and did) burn water ... more than once. (boiled the pan dry -
    and ruined a nice aluminum saucepan).

    My parents, for years, had a stove top coffee percolator. My mom, a
    number of times, turned on the coil on the electric stove under the
    empty percolator, thinking she was getting another coil. The percolator
    would fuse itself to the coil, don't know how many my mom ruined over
    the years. She finally got an electric percolator, forget if I was in
    junior high or high school when she did. Her stove had the coils to one
    side and a flat area where you coould plug in a griddle, electric fry
    pan or whatever (percolator) so it stayed there, off of any coil.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Shawn Highfield on Wed Jun 5 13:52:29 2024
    Re: Goulash
    By: Shawn Highfield to CAROL SHENKENBERGER on Sat Jun 01 2024 06:17 am

    Quoting Carol Shenkenberger to Mike Powell <=-

    Shawn could also be trying to connect with a stealth setting of 'no name'. Due to all the scamming bots, most block that. If so, he has to turn it off.

    ? You must have me confused with someone else. I connect with my real name, the same as I have since 1985. I've never even heard of no name
    for logging into a BBS?

    Shawn

    ... A wise man once said... I don't know.

    Shawn, a 'steatlth BROWSER' is one of those than don't show where you are coming from or reports a fake IP address. Seems you got in anyway as it was something else.

    xxcarol
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jun 5 13:55:15 2024
    Re: Ravioli
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Thu May 30 2024 11:56 am

    Hi Carol,

    As far as sweet cole slaw--my MIL gave me the cole slaw recipe I make
    99% of the time; it has just a sprinkle (maybe a tablespoon, at most,)
    of sugar. Otherwise, it's cabbage, shredded carrot, pineapple, little bits each of s&P, pineapple juice and mayo. I'll usually use crushed pineapple or cut up rings/tidbits into small pieces. Best cole slaw I've ever tasted and the one we judge others by.

    Well, it seems a 'thing' with local beagles, hence bad local breeders related to it's commonality.

    They are cute dogs; Steve's family had a number of them when he was
    growing up. I met him when the last one was in his later years.


    As to your coleslaw, sorry but I pass. WAAYY too sweet for me, but then I have no sweet tooth. It's hard to like something if it makes you feel sick due to metabolizm issues with it.

    I understand. I don't get physically sick with any of my dislikes but a couple of them do make my stomach turn, mentally.

    We are starting to get summer produce at the local farmer's market now.
    Last week Steve picked up some fresh lettuce, tomatoes, cucumbers and
    beets. The lettuce and tomato are going into a BLT for today's lunch.



    My garden it starting to produce tomatoes, leetuce, green onions and soon, Bell peppers.

    xxcarol
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to DAVE DRUM on Thu Jun 6 06:44:00 2024
    Dave Drum was heard saying....

    US Social Security collects a percentage of self-employment income when

    I chose not to pay into the CPP. I would rather be able to live my life
    now as I didn't expect to make it even to this age.

    boards of a couple non-profits .... still. Although he claims he is slowing down - he's amazing. He's had to take it easy the past couple
    of months due to heart issues. But he's chomping at the bit to get back
    to doing .... to the displeasure of his new(ish) wife.

    Sounds like a friend of mine here. Never seen someone so busy; sold his business to retire. Works at least 160 hours a week. LOL




    Shawn

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to RUTH HAFFLY on Thu Jun 6 06:44:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly was heard saying....

    I do from time to time but not as much as I used to. My wrists can't

    I understand that. Both my hands are destroyed at this point, I have to
    carry things with both hands as I don't trust them not to let go when they
    feel like it.

    shops. They had on display a quilt made with fabrics printed with all
    the TX wildflowers. He was impressed enough with it that we bought all
    of the fabrics needed, plus the pattern and ruler, to make it. I plan to do that as a next year project, catch up with some other sewing this
    year.

    Taht sounds like it would be very pretty when done.



    Shawn

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to CAROL SHENKENBERGER on Thu Jun 6 06:44:00 2024
    Carol Shenkenberger was heard saying....

    Shawn, a 'steatlth BROWSER' is one of those than don't show where you
    are coming from or reports a fake IP address. Seems you got in anyway
    as it was something else.

    Ahhh. No I don't bother with that when BBSing, I do have a VPN I use if
    I decide to grab a torrent file that may or may not be 100% legal. LOL




    Shawn

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jun 6 05:54:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I know; we're going to Pidgeon Forge, TN for an RV/Radio rally this
    fall. I've already informed Steve that we're stopping at the Lodge cast iron outlet in that area. (G)

    Gonna stop by Dollywood as well? All that blonde hair and beautiful
    voice and she can cook, too. If my ex had been able to cook anywhere
    close to that welll I'd likely have stuck around a lot longer. But

    We'll pass on that, enough other venues to visit (at a better price) in the area.

    No worse than Dizzy-land ot Ditzy-World in Flaw-Rid-Ah. Bv)=

    Billie Marie
    could (and did) burn water ... more than once. (boiled the pan dry -
    and ruined a nice aluminum saucepan).

    My parents, for years, had a stove top coffee percolator. My mom, a
    number of times, turned on the coil on the electric stove under the
    empty percolator, thinking she was getting another coil. The percolator would fuse itself to the coil, don't know how many my mom ruined over
    the years. She finally got an electric percolator, forget if I was in junior high or high school when she did. Her stove had the coils to one side and a flat area where you coould plug in a griddle, electric fry
    pan or whatever (percolator) so it stayed there, off of any coil.

    My parents had a Mary Dunbar percolator (but a gas stove). And my grands
    had an old style drip coffee maker - pour the boiling water in the top,
    it flows over the grounds and drips into the serving pot. This leads to
    a U-Toob video - but the picture at its start shows what I'm talking
    about - so you don't have to suffer through the whole thing ... https://tinyurl.com/DRIPPY-DIPPY

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Coffee Pot Roast
    Categories: Beef, Crockpot, Vegetables, Potatoes
    Yield: 8 Servings

    6 Carrots; peeled, diced
    2 c Potatoes; peeled, diced
    3 lb Beef chuck roast
    Salt & pepper
    14 oz Can diced tomatoes
    1 c Black coffee
    1 c Water

    Put vegetables in cooker. Add beef, sprinkle with salt
    and pepper. Add tomatoes and liquids. Cover and cook on
    low 8 ~ 10 hours or until tender. If desired, thicken
    with flour and water base.

    From "Woman's Day Crockery Cook Book"

    Meal Mastered by Heather Smith

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jun 6 06:30:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    And I'm not a fan of Miracle Whip. I'd use Duke's but been buying an avocado oil based mayo the past few years, has no chemicals in it.

    When I was a kidlet in short pants I used to like it on sandwiches
    'cuz it had a little "bite" to it that made things interesting. But,

    My mom always used the Ann Page salad dressing, cheaper than mayo.

    Godfrey Daniel! How long has it been since the Great Atlanic & Pacific
    Tea Company took the gas pipe? Our last remaining example shuttered its
    windows in '81 as the company shrank back to the Northeast

    I grew out of that phase and discovered other condiments that I like better for enhancing boring food. Like Woerber's Horseradish Sauce.
    Or Heinz Spicy ketchup (made w/Tabasco)

    I grew up with spicy brown mustard, with or without horseradish. Steve grew up with yellow mustard; when we got married, he converted to spicy brown so we weren't buying 2.

    When I was at home (40s & 50s) mustard was yellow (French's). Then I was introduced to Mr. Mustard ... claimed to be DiJon style and hard to tell
    from the mustard served in Chinese restaurants. Lit up my life, it did.

    Only place in town I've found Duke's is at Sav-A-Lot (a "budget"
    grover) I did see that Taste of Home did a comparo of various
    store0bougt mayos and Duke's was the winner. Hellmans/Best Foods was second and Kraft was far down the list.

    Duke's usually does come out on top. I missed it when we were stationed outside of the deep south, had to make do with others that generally weren't as good. I've been in a Sav-A-Lot a couple of times and been
    less than impressed. Bought a bag of chicken leg quarters one of the times, most of the quarters were broken at the joint, had the tip of
    the drumstick missing or other issues. Don't recall what else we got
    there but it wasn't the quality of main line grocery stores.

    That (the quality) was why it was so deeply discounted. I bought a 10#
    bag of leg quarters from Hy-Vee @ 59c/lb. Then learned that Humphrey's
    was offering the same deal for 49c/lb. Some processor - likely Tyson -
    had an oversupply of dark meat chicken clogging their coolers. Bv)=

    That's down to the operator of the Sav-A-Lotd in your area. The

    This was up near Nancy's camp on Boyd Pond. I don't think there are any Sav-A-Lots around here. I was in one in FL with my MIL years ago and
    saw nothing that I'd want to buy.

    As with any market I'm careful (mostly) with what I buy WRT both price
    and quality. The only meat I buy at Sav-A-Lot is prepackaged smoked sasusage or lunch meat things. Or their bacon ends 'n' pieces - which
    are great for applications where the bacon is going to be shopped and
    used as flavorant or texture. Regular strip bacon I still buy at GFS - where they just finished a Memorial Day sale w/3 lb packages of either regular or thick-sliced for U$9.95. I'm now well stocked.

    I know, I don't buy meat at a number of grocey stores, except maybe
    lunch meat. Even then, it's usually bought at Wegman's.

    I buy nearly all of my meat at Humphrey's. Occasionally I'll pick up a
    round of pre-stuffed pork chops at Hy-Vee if the price is attractive.

    If you do not have a food processor, no problem, simply
    chop the cabbage, onions, and carrots into small pieces.
    Add chopped green bell pepper if desired.

    And that's why I don't like KFC slaw; it's too finely chopped for me.

    It's about the "chop" as Popeyes (and Wendy's). As long as it has some "crunch" in it I'm all right with it.

    All the Popeyes places I've been to have had their cole slaw rougher chopped than the fine stuff I've had at KFC (and other places).

    It may depend on which commisary the franchisee uses for items like
    that. We've only got one KFC store left here (down from 4). I only go there for the lunch AYCE buffet with friends - never at my suggestion.

    We've not gone to KFC in years, tho there's at least one in WF.

    My favourite fats food chicken used to be Brown's, a Chicago-based chain.
    They, at one time, had five stores in my town (Springfield, IL) which
    did very good volume. Then in the early 90s came the "Brown's Chicken
    Massacre" near Chicago and overall sales dropped by almost half. Soon
    the chain contracted to just the Chicago area. I still miss them.

    But Popeyes keeps me afloat.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Chinese Mustard Sauce
    Categories: Sauces, Condiments
    Yield: 1 Cup

    1 c Vinegar
    1 tb Grated ginger root
    +=OR=+
    1 ts Dry ginger powder
    1 c Sugar
    2 tb Soy sauce
    1 tb Colman's Mustard
    1 tb Cornstarch

    Bring to a boil vinegar, sugar, salt and soy sauce. Mix
    cornstarch and Colman's Mustard in 1/2 cup cold water.
    Stir in and cook until it thickens.

    Grate in ginger root (or dry ginger).

    Serve hot or cold.

    Recipe from www.colmans.com

    MM Format by Dave Drum - 25 May 2009

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Mike Powell on Wed Jun 5 12:25:04 2024
    Hi Mike,

    Duke's usually does come out on top. I missed it when we were
    stationed > outside of the deep south, had to make do with others that generally
    weren't as good. I've been in a Sav-A-Lot a couple of times and been

    I have lived in Kentucky nearly my entire life but had never heard of Duke's until they started sponsoring, and advertising during, college football games. Apparently they have a very loyal following.

    Guess it depends on what part of the south you're in. I lived in TX (San
    Angelo and Fort Hood) for 2 1/2 years but never found it there. A
    neighbor who's family was in Georgia brought me several jars when she
    went back home for a visit. Our son in law is from Georgia also; he and
    our daughter discovered/converted to Duke's some years ago. Since they
    live just outside of Salt Lake City, UT, they order it thru Amazon. (G)


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Shawn Highfield on Fri Jun 7 06:40:32 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    US Social Security collects a percentage of self-employment income when

    I chose not to pay into the CPP. I would rather be able to live my
    life now as I didn't expect to make it even to this age.

    In USA one doesn't have a choice - which can be a good thing. Few (very
    few) think of the future further than where the next bee/burger/etc. is
    coming from. Of course, I'm in that group, too. Had no idea I'd get this
    ols since both parental units snuffed it in their mid 50s. I might have
    made different plans had I known.

    boards of a couple non-profits .... still. Although he claims he is slowing down - he's amazing. He's had to take it easy the past couple
    of months due to heart issues. But he's chomping at the bit to get back
    to doing .... to the displeasure of his new(ish) wife.

    Sounds like a friend of mine here. Never seen someone so busy; sold
    his business to retire. Works at least 160 hours a week. LOL

    Our local fish wrapper has a "First Citizen" award every year which is generally won by a "do-good" with deep pockets. I'm assembling photos
    and data on Les' unpaid career in public service and helping out others
    on the Q.T. with his friends and acquaintances sworn to secrecy. It will
    be really neat if he wins. I had to let Sara (his newish wife) in on the
    deal so she can help keep him in the dark. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cheese & Spinach Stuffed Shells
    Categories: Chees, Pasta, Greens, Sauces
    Yield: 7 servings

    2 c Cottage cheese; small curd
    10 oz Box chopped spinach; thawed,
    - well drained
    1 c Shredded mozzarella cheese
    1/4 c Grated parmesan cheese
    1 ts Italian seasoning
    20 Jumbo pasta shells; cooked
    24 oz Jar spaghetti sauce

    Set oven @ 400ºF/205ºC.

    Mix cottage cheese, spinach, 1/2 cup mozzarella,
    parmesan and seasoning. Spoon into shells.

    Spoon half the sauce into a 13" X 9" baking dish. Add
    filled shells.

    Top with remaining sauce. Cover and bake for 25 minutes
    or until heated through. Top with remaining mozzarella
    and bake uncovered for another 2 minutes or until the
    cheese melts.

    Makes: 6 to 8 servings

    Gabriella Gennarelli, Partner Family

    Habitat for Humanity of Summit County; Akron, Ohio

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.hfhsummitcounty.org

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Thu Jun 6 11:27:23 2024
    Hi Carol,

    then I have no sweet tooth. It's hard to like something if it makes you feel sick due to metabolizm issues with it.

    I understand. I don't get physically sick with any of my dislikes but a couple of them do make my stomach turn, mentally.

    We are starting to get summer produce at the local farmer's market now.
    Last week Steve picked up some fresh lettuce, tomatoes, cucumbers and
    beets. The lettuce and tomato are going into a BLT for today's lunch.

    My garden it starting to produce tomatoes, leetuce, green onions and
    soon, Bell peppers.

    Sounds good. We're getting a few peas every once in a while, a small
    side to a meal. Steve just washes them off and we eat them pod and all
    as they're small and sweet. He brought home some more strawberries the
    other day so I made a strawberry/rhubarb pie. Tried a steusel topping on
    it, good but will cut the topping recipe in half next time I do the pie.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Thu Jun 6 11:36:11 2024
    Hi Shawn,


    I do from time to time but not as much as I used to. My wrists can't

    I understand that. Both my hands are destroyed at this point, I have
    to carry things with both hands as I don't trust them not to let go
    when they feel like it.


    OUCH! That's a real pain. I shattered the radius bone in both wrists
    back in 1992, have metal in both of them now after 2 surgeries on the
    right, 3 on the left (and I'm left handed). Some use is better than none
    but when I'm stirring something on the stove, I'll have to switch
    stirring hands every so often.


    shops. They had on display a quilt made with fabrics printed with all
    the TX wildflowers. He was impressed enough with it that we bought all
    of the fabrics needed, plus the pattern and ruler, to make it. I plan to do that as a next year project, catch up with some other sewing this
    year.

    Taht sounds like it would be very pretty when done.

    It should be, tho cutting it out will be a bear--lots of triangular
    cuts. I'll probably have to cut it over several days.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Jun 6 11:42:26 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Gonna stop by Dollywood as well? All that blonde hair and beautiful
    voice and she can cook, too. If my ex had been able to cook anywhere
    close to that welll I'd likely have stuck around a lot longer. But

    We'll pass on that, enough other venues to visit (at a better price) in the area.

    No worse than Dizzy-land ot Ditzy-World in Flaw-Rid-Ah. Bv)=

    Never been to either place, people traps run by a mouse.


    Billie Marie
    could (and did) burn water ... more than once. (boiled the pan dry -
    and ruined a nice aluminum saucepan).

    My parents, for years, had a stove top coffee percolator. My mom, a
    number of times, turned on the coil on the electric stove under the
    empty percolator, thinking she was getting another coil. The percolator would fuse itself to the coil, don't know how many my mom ruined over
    the years. She finally got an electric percolator, forget if I was in junior high or high school when she did. Her stove had the coils to one side and a flat area where you coould plug in a griddle, electric fry
    pan or whatever (percolator) so it stayed there, off of any coil.

    My parents had a Mary Dunbar percolator (but a gas stove). And my
    grands had an old style drip coffee maker - pour the boiling water in
    the top, it flows over the grounds and drips into the serving pot.

    Steve has a French press as one of his coffee makers; the coffee grounds
    are loose in the water until pushed down. He also has a pour over
    ( ground coffee in a filter, water poured over that and into a mug), a
    moka pot, a cold brew set up and an espresso machine. Me, just hot water
    and a tea bag, thank you. (G)


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Jun 6 11:55:56 2024
    Hi Dave,

    My mom always used the Ann Page salad dressing, cheaper than mayo.

    Godfrey Daniel! How long has it been since the Great Atlanic & Pacific
    Tea Company took the gas pipe? Our last remaining example shuttered
    its windows in '81 as the company shrank back to the Northeast

    The one in the town where I grew up folded in the first decade of this millenium. Bought out by Fresh Town, locals thought they upped prices
    but Steve and I found them pretty much in line with what we pay.

    I grew out of that phase and discovered other condiments that I like better for enhancing boring food. Like Woerber's Horseradish Sauce.
    Or Heinz Spicy ketchup (made w/Tabasco)

    I grew up with spicy brown mustard, with or without horseradish. Steve grew up with yellow mustard; when we got married, he converted to spicy brown so we weren't buying 2.

    When I was at home (40s & 50s) mustard was yellow (French's). Then I
    was introduced to Mr. Mustard ... claimed to be DiJon style and hard
    to tell from the mustard served in Chinese restaurants. Lit up my
    life, it did.

    My folks bought Mr. Mustard quite often, also Goulden's but don't recall
    them buying French's.


    Only place in town I've found Duke's is at Sav-A-Lot (a "budget"
    grover) I did see that Taste of Home did a comparo of various
    store0bougt mayos and Duke's was the winner. Hellmans/Best Foods was second and Kraft was far down the list.

    Duke's usually does come out on top. I missed it when we were stationed outside of the deep south, had to make do with others that generally weren't as good. I've been in a Sav-A-Lot a couple of times and been
    less than impressed. Bought a bag of chicken leg quarters one of the times, most of the quarters were broken at the joint, had the tip of
    the drumstick missing or other issues. Don't recall what else we got
    there but it wasn't the quality of main line grocery stores.

    That's down to the operator of the Sav-A-Lotd in your area. The

    This was up near Nancy's camp on Boyd Pond. I don't think there are any Sav-A-Lots around here. I was in one in FL with my MIL years ago and
    saw nothing that I'd want to buy.

    As with any market I'm careful (mostly) with what I buy WRT both price
    and quality. The only meat I buy at Sav-A-Lot is prepackaged smoked sasusage or lunch meat things. Or their bacon ends 'n' pieces - which
    are great for applications where the bacon is going to be shopped and
    used as flavorant or texture. Regular strip bacon I still buy at GFS - where they just finished a Memorial Day sale w/3 lb packages of either regular or thick-sliced for U$9.95. I'm now well stocked.

    I know, I don't buy meat at a number of grocey stores, except maybe
    lunch meat. Even then, it's usually bought at Wegman's.

    I buy nearly all of my meat at Humphrey's. Occasionally I'll pick up a round of pre-stuffed pork chops at Hy-Vee if the price is attractive.

    We get a fair amount of meat at Wegman's. I don't buy the pre stuffed
    pork chops but will buy pork chops and make my own stuffing mix. Will
    usually put the stuffing (dressing, since it's not stuffed into
    anything) down in a pan, put the pork chops over that and bake. Easier
    than trying to wrestle with putting stuffing into the chops--tried that
    when we were first married but found it easier to do unstuffed chops.

    It may depend on which commisary the franchisee uses for items like
    that. We've only got one KFC store left here (down from 4). I only go there for the lunch AYCE buffet with friends - never at my suggestion.

    We've not gone to KFC in years, tho there's at least one in WF.

    My favourite fats food chicken used to be Brown's, a Chicago-based
    chain. They, at one time, had five stores in my town (Springfield, IL) which
    did very good volume. Then in the early 90s came the "Brown's Chicken Massacre" near Chicago and overall sales dropped by almost half. Soon
    the chain contracted to just the Chicago area. I still miss them.

    But Popeyes keeps me afloat.

    We hit them up every so often, there's one in the same plaza as Harbor
    Freight down in Raleigh.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jun 7 14:53:21 2024
    Re: Ravioli
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Thu Jun 06 2024 11:27 am

    Hi Carol,

    then I have no sweet tooth. It's hard to like something if it makes you feel sick due to metabolizm issues with it.

    I understand. I don't get physically sick with any of my dislikes but a couple of them do make my stomach turn, mentally.

    We are starting to get summer produce at the local farmer's market now. Last week Steve picked up some fresh lettuce, tomatoes, cucumbers and beets. The lettuce and tomato are going into a BLT for today's lunch.

    My garden it starting to produce tomatoes, leetuce, green onions and soon, Bell peppers.

    Sounds good. We're getting a few peas every once in a while, a small
    side to a meal. Steve just washes them off and we eat them pod and all
    as they're small and sweet. He brought home some more strawberries the
    other day so I made a strawberry/rhubarb pie. Tried a steusel topping on
    it, good but will cut the topping recipe in half next time I do the pie.



    Sounds good! We have about 25 tomatoes cropping in the next 2 weeks. Lots of stuff doing very well in the container garden!

    I'll wash, remove stems, and freeze them for sauce making. The skins come right off under hot tap water when frozen.

    xxcarol
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jun 8 06:03:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    No worse than Dizzy-land ot Ditzy-World in Flaw-Rid-Ah. Bv)=

    Never been to either place, people traps run by a mouse.

    I've never been to either. The California version had too many rules
    and dress codes for me to be comfortable. I could care less about the
    rides (except the Monorail - which would have been neat) and "skill"
    games. Even when I was a child during the last century the only ride
    I cared to squander my lawn-mowing and paper route money on was the
    Dodge-ems (Bumper Cars) or watching the motorcyclists riding the "Wall
    of Death". But tht was before I learned about centrifugal force and then understood the "gimmick" that let it works as an exhibit.

    8<----- Coffee Break ----->8

    My parents had a Mary Dunbar percolator (but a gas stove). And my
    grands had an old style drip coffee maker - pour the boiling water in
    the top, it flows over the grounds and drips into the serving pot.

    Steve has a French press as one of his coffee makers; the coffee
    grounds are loose in the water until pushed down. He also has a pour
    over ( ground coffee in a filter, water poured over that and into a
    mug), a moka pot, a cold brew set up and an espresso machine. Me, just
    hot water and a tea bag, thank you. (G)

    Never tackled a French press. I've a Hamilton-Beach single cup coffee
    aker which uses either loose coffe or pods. And my 12 cup (5 of my big cups/mugs) Sears & Roebuck automatic drip unit. It's a Cuisinart under
    the Serious & Getback branding. It has an internal water filter, uses
    the conical coffee filters and I can set it to the start brewing on the
    built in timer. So at 04:00 the Yehudi wakes up and makes my coffee.

    Two was of making tea. Single cups - like you, I use a tea bag and hot
    (boiling or nearly so) water. For multiple cups - or for Iced Tea I use
    the Mary Dunbar/Jewel Tea tea pot that my grandmother had and an
    aluminum tea ball/infuser to hold loose tea leaves. A pixture of one
    very like it (except in stainless steel) is at https://tinyurl.com/TEA-BAWL

    My usual non-morning tea is Brown & Bigelow's "Constant Comment". Up
    until (and including) lunchtime my go-to is Twining's Breakfast Tea or
    Lipton if the market was out of Twinings.

    All straight up - like my coffee. No milk, no sugar, no sweetners.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Constant Comment (Copycat) Tea
    Categories: Five, Beverages, Herbs, Citrus
    Yield: 1 /4 cup

    4 tb Black tea
    12 Whole cloves; crushed
    1 (1") cinnamon stick; broken
    - crushed
    2 ts Dried orange peel; broken in
    - small pieces

    Combine all ingredients well and store in an
    airtight container.

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

    Or, this, which is a beverage, sandwich dipper, or soup base.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Beef Tea
    Categories: Five, Beverages, Beef
    Yield: 2 Servings

    8 oz Beef chuck; in 1/2" cubes
    1/4 ts Salt
    3 c Water

    Combine the beef, salt, and water in a saucepan and
    bring to a boil over high heat. Let the mixture boil for
    1 minute. Reduce the heat to low and let the water barely
    simmer for 20 minutes more, skimming off any scum that
    forms on the surface. Remove the pan from the heat and
    let cool.

    Pour the liquid and the pieces of beef into the jar or
    container, cover it tightly, and let the liquid steep
    (like tea, of course) in the refrigerator for at least
    24 hours.

    Strain the liquid either through cheesecloth or a fine
    mesh strainer and discard the beef. You'll be left with
    the tea. Serve hot.

    * Reserve the beef to add body to vegetable soup or
    to feed to a pet. Waste not, want not. - UDD

    Yield: Makes 2 servings

    From Ploughman's Lunch and the Miser's Feast: Authentic
    Pub Food, Restaurant Fare, and Home Cooking from Small
    Towns, Big Cities, and Country Villages Across the
    British Isles by Brian Yarvin. Copyright © 2012 by Brian
    Yarvin. Published by The Harvard Common Press.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.epicurious.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jun 8 06:11:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    My mom always used the Ann Page salad dressing, cheaper than mayo.

    Godfrey Daniel! How long has it been since the Great Atlanic & Pacific
    Tea Company took the gas pipe? Our last remaining example shuttered
    its windows in '81 as the company shrank back to the Northeast

    The one in the town where I grew up folded in the first decade of this millenium. Bought out by Fresh Town, locals thought they upped prices
    but Steve and I found them pretty much in line with what we pay.

    Kroger is still the #1 supermarkt retailer in America, Albertsons is
    in 2nd place. My Hy-Vee comes in at #12 and your Wegman's at #13.

    Kroger left my town in the 1980 in a labour dispute and were replaced
    by Shop & Save (a St. Louis outfit). We currently have s Kroger version
    of Sav-A-Lot (#19 on the Top 25 list) called Ruler Foods which took over
    half of the space of an Eagle supermarket. The other half became an
    outpost of Fit Club.

    I grew out of that phase and discovered other condiments that I like better for enhancing boring food. Like Woerber's Horseradish Sauce.
    Or Heinz Spicy ketchup (made w/Tabasco)

    I grew up with spicy brown mustard, with or without horseradish. Steve grew up with yellow mustard; when we got married, he converted to spicy brown so we weren't buying 2.

    When I was at home (40s & 50s) mustard was yellow (French's). Then I
    was introduced to Mr. Mustard ... claimed to be DiJon style and hard
    to tell from the mustard served in Chinese restaurants. Lit up my
    life, it did.

    My folks bought Mr. Mustard quite often, also Goulden's but don't
    recall them buying French's.

    Gulden's, as I remeber was brown with seeds in it. French's is BRIGHT
    yelloow. In this area it's the default on-the-table mustard in cafe and restaurant venues.

    8<----- SNIP ----->8

    I buy nearly all of my meat at Humphrey's. Occasionally I'll pick up a round of pre-stuffed pork chops at Hy-Vee if the price is attractive.

    We get a fair amount of meat at Wegman's. I don't buy the pre stuffed
    pork chops but will buy pork chops and make my own stuffing mix. Will usually put the stuffing (dressing, since it's not stuffed into
    anything) down in a pan, put the pork chops over that and bake. Easier than trying to wrestle with putting stuffing into the chops--tried that when we were first married but found it easier to do unstuffed chops.

    When I make stuffed chops I do as Humphrey's and Hy-Vee and cut a pocket
    in a thick chop and stuff it (literally) with the mixture. Cooking for
    one most of the time it's a genuine P.I.T.A. to stuff a pork chop. Bv)=

    It may depend on which commisary the franchisee uses for items like
    that. We've only got one KFC store left here (down from 4). I only go there for the lunch AYCE buffet with friends - never at my suggestion.

    We've not gone to KFC in years, tho there's at least one in WF.

    My favourite fats food chicken used to be Brown's, a Chicago-based
    chain. They, at one time, had five stores in my town (Springfield, IL) which did very good volume. Then in the early 90s came the "Brown's Chicken Massacre" near Chicago and overall sales dropped by almost
    half. Soon the chain contracted to just the Chicago area. I still
    miss them.

    But Popeyes keeps me afloat.

    We hit them up every so often, there's one in the same plaza as Harbor Freight down in Raleigh.

    I buy very little at Harbor Freight as I don't care to support Comrade
    Xi and his dirty commie rats. Sometimes you can't get away from buying
    Chinese made stuff - but I avoid it when/where I can ... even it it is
    a bit more expen$ive.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Bacon-Cheddar Stuffing
    Categories: Breads, Pork, Vegetables, Herbs, Cheese
    Yield: 8 Servings

    16 oz Stale bagels; in 1" cubes
    2 Ribs celery; chopped
    1 lg Onion; chopped
    6 tb Butter; diced
    1 c Stale beer
    1 lb Bacon; cooked, crumbled
    1 tb + 1 1/2 ts minced fresh
    - thyme
    +=OR=+
    1 1/2 ts Dried thyme
    Salt & pepper
    1 c Chicken or pork stock
    1 lg Egg
    12 oz Cheddar cheese; shredded

    Set oven @ 350ºF/175ºC.

    Place bread in a single layer on two rimmed baking
    sheets. Bake for 15-20 minutes or until toasted, turning
    once. Cool completely on a wire rack.

    Saute celery and onion in butter in a large skillet over
    medium-high heat for 6-8 minutes or until tender. Reduce
    heat to medium; pour in beer. Bring to a boil; cook and
    stir for 2-4 minutes or until liquid is reduced to 1/2
    cup. Remove from the heat. Stir in bacon and thyme.
    Season with salt and pepper to taste.

    Whisk stock and egg in a large bowl. Add bread cubes and
    bacon mixture; toss until well coated. Fold in shredded
    cheddar.

    Spoon into a greased 2 quart baking dish. Bake, covered,
    for 30 minutes. Uncover; bake for 15-20 minutes longer
    or until top is golden brown.

    Or use to stuff butterfly pork chops.

    Stuffs 8 chops nicely. Leftover stuffing may be baked
    and served with a nice gravy as a side dish at another
    meal.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to RUTH HAFFLY on Sat Jun 8 07:16:00 2024
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Shawn Highfield <=-

    OUCH! That's a real pain. I shattered the radius bone in both wrists
    back in 1992, have metal in both of them now after 2 surgeries on the right, 3 on the left (and I'm left handed). Some use is better than
    none but when I'm stirring something on the stove, I'll have to switch stirring hands every so often.

    Andrea can't figure out how I'm able to do as much as I am. The doctor's
    tell us one thing about my hands, and I ignore them and just find work
    arounds. One thing that did help was when I stopped driving at work and
    just drive a desk. The wheelchair connections were starting to really
    do a number on them. However, now I type on a computer for a living so probably worse in the long run.

    It should be, tho cutting it out will be a bear--lots of triangular
    cuts. I'll probably have to cut it over several days.

    Ask Steve to help with that part? Sounds like a decent project for a
    cold winter evening.

    Shawn

    ... I'm so hungry I could eat a vegetable.
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to CAROL SHENKENBERGER on Sat Jun 8 07:19:00 2024
    Quoting Carol Shenkenberger to Ruth Haffly <=-

    I'll wash, remove stems, and freeze them for sauce making. The skins
    come right off under hot tap water when frozen.

    Do you have to do anything else to them before freezing? We always
    struggle to use the ones we are given.

    Shawn

    ... The older you get, the more important is is not to act your age.
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Shawn Highfield on Sat Jun 8 15:38:01 2024
    Re: Ravioli
    By: Shawn Highfield to CAROL SHENKENBERGER on Sat Jun 08 2024 07:19 am

    Quoting Carol Shenkenberger to Ruth Haffly <=-

    I'll wash, remove stems, and freeze them for sauce making. The skins come right off under hot tap water when frozen.

    Do you have to do anything else to them before freezing? We always
    struggle to use the ones we are given.

    Shawn

    ... The older you get, the more important is is not to act your age.

    Nope, just wash, remove stems and leaves, then freeze. I make tomato sauces with them, so texture isn't a factor. Just slip off the skins under hot water.

    Right now I'm prepping dinner, having been sick last 5 days. Don's been doing the cooking while I could barely eat.

    Feeling human, we we are having a simple 'stir fry'. I chopped the veggies in 2 separate bursts (sitting between the bursts). My hand problems make anything really difficult if done too long but cause is from spinal damage. Jars have become almost impossible.

    Chopped 5 fresh garlic cloves, 1 red bell pepper and rested. Then chopped 2 ribs of celery and 5 large fresh shiitake. Took out 6 frozen fully cooked shrimp (large ones, prepeeled) to defrost. The garlics were placed in the flat bottomed wok as they take longest and Colevita roasted garlic olive oil added (1/2 TB is my guess). The veggies are in a container and the chopping is done in order so the next longest item is on top.

    When Don comes home, I'll start garlic, chop the shrimps, then add the mushrooms and Don will take over to stir fry the rest, adding more olive oil if needed.

    xxcarol
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to CAROL SHENKENBERGER on Sun Jun 9 06:45:00 2024
    Quoting Carol Shenkenberger to Shawn Highfield <=-

    Nope, just wash, remove stems and leaves, then freeze. I make tomato sauces with them, so texture isn't a factor. Just slip off the skins under hot water.

    I'm going to do that this year if we are gifted with a lot of maters. Of course that's over a month away from now. I hate making huge batches of
    sauce so will try!

    from spinal damage. Jars have become almost impossible.

    Sorry to hear.

    When Don comes home, I'll start garlic, chop the shrimps, then add the mushrooms and Don will take over to stir fry the rest, adding more
    olive oil if needed.

    Team work.

    Shawn

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Jun 8 13:17:26 2024
    Hi Carol,

    We are starting to get summer produce at the local farmer's market now. Last week Steve picked up some fresh lettuce, tomatoes, cucumbers and beets. The lettuce and tomato are going into a BLT for today's lunch.

    My garden it starting to produce tomatoes, leetuce, green onions and soon, Bell peppers.

    Sounds good. We're getting a few peas every once in a while, a small
    side to a meal. Steve just washes them off and we eat them pod and all
    as they're small and sweet. He brought home some more strawberries the
    other day so I made a strawberry/rhubarb pie. Tried a steusel topping on
    it, good but will cut the topping recipe in half next time I do the pie.

    Sounds good! We have about 25 tomatoes cropping in the next 2 weeks.
    Lots of stuff doing very well in the container garden!

    I'll wash, remove stems, and freeze them for sauce making. The skins
    come right off under hot tap water when frozen.

    I've done that before. I've also skinned them with boiling water when
    fresh. Let them sit in the water a few minutes, drain, and skin. I'll
    cut them into samller pieces, good for making salsa and freeze them in
    boxes with no added water. When I thaw them, I'll drain off the water
    and the salsa (or sauce) will cook down thicker in less time.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jun 8 13:28:39 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Never been to either place, people traps run by a mouse.

    I've never been to either. The California version had too many rules
    and dress codes for me to be comfortable. I could care less about the rides (except the Monorail - which would have been neat) and "skill" games. Even when I was a child during the last century the only ride
    I cared to squander my lawn-mowing and paper route money on was the Dodge-ems (Bumper Cars) or watching the motorcyclists riding the "Wall
    of Death". But tht was before I learned about centrifugal force and
    then understood the "gimmick" that let it works as an exhibit.

    My favorite was the ferris wheel. Steve went to the Florida park the
    year after it opened; the girls both went to the California one on
    school trips when we were in AZ.

    8<----- Coffee Break ----->8

    My parents had a Mary Dunbar percolator (but a gas stove). And my
    grands had an old style drip coffee maker - pour the boiling water in
    the top, it flows over the grounds and drips into the serving pot.

    Steve has a French press as one of his coffee makers; the coffee
    grounds are loose in the water until pushed down. He also has a pour
    over ( ground coffee in a filter, water poured over that and into a
    mug), a moka pot, a cold brew set up and an espresso machine. Me, just
    hot water and a tea bag, thank you. (G)

    Never tackled a French press. I've a Hamilton-Beach single cup coffee
    aker which uses either loose coffe or pods. And my 12 cup (5 of my big cups/mugs) Sears & Roebuck automatic drip unit. It's a Cuisinart under
    the Serious & Getback branding. It has an internal water filter, uses
    the conical coffee filters and I can set it to the start brewing on
    the built in timer. So at 04:00 the Yehudi wakes up and makes my
    coffee.

    I've kidded Steve about being a coffee snob but he's not really. No
    gourmet beans, ground just before use but he does grind his own.


    Two was of making tea. Single cups - like you, I use a tea bag and hot (boiling or nearly so) water. For multiple cups - or for Iced Tea I
    use the Mary Dunbar/Jewel Tea tea pot that my grandmother had and an aluminum tea ball/infuser to hold loose tea leaves. A pixture of one
    very like it (except in stainless steel) is at https://tinyurl.com/TEA-BAWL

    We've got one of those ball infusers; it was one part of a number of
    things I got from my grandmother's estate 50 years ago.

    My usual non-morning tea is Brown & Bigelow's "Constant Comment". Up
    until (and including) lunchtime my go-to is Twining's Breakfast Tea or Lipton if the market was out of Twinings.

    I go for Tetley British Blend most mornings, treat myself on Sunday
    mornings to Good Earth's Original Sweet and Spicy.


    All straight up - like my coffee. No milk, no sugar, no sweetners.

    One packet of stevia for me, unless we're hitting the road. Then the tea
    is brewed just a bit longer, goes into a travel mug that keeps it warm
    about 8 hours. It gets 2 packets of stevia then.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... It isn't hard to meet expenses...they're everywhere!

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jun 8 13:36:16 2024
    Hi Dave,

    The one in the town where I grew up folded in the first decade of this millenium. Bought out by Fresh Town, locals thought they upped prices
    but Steve and I found them pretty much in line with what we pay.

    Kroger is still the #1 supermarkt retailer in America, Albertsons is
    in 2nd place. My Hy-Vee comes in at #12 and your Wegman's at #13.

    None of the first 3 in our area; Kroger was, but none in the last decade
    or so.


    When I was at home (40s & 50s) mustard was yellow (French's). Then I
    was introduced to Mr. Mustard ... claimed to be DiJon style and hard
    to tell from the mustard served in Chinese restaurants. Lit up my
    life, it did.

    My folks bought Mr. Mustard quite often, also Gulden's but don't
    recall them buying French's.

    Gulden's, as I remeber was brown with seeds in it. French's is BRIGHT yelloow. In this area it's the default on-the-table mustard in cafe
    and restaurant venues.

    Most of the time I've seen French's wherever we go, occaisionally
    Gulden's. We do keep the yellow stuff on hand for Steve to coat Boston
    butts before adding the spice rub but it's not on our table.

    8<----- SNIP ----->8

    I buy nearly all of my meat at Humphrey's. Occasionally I'll pick up a round of pre-stuffed pork chops at Hy-Vee if the price is attractive.

    We get a fair amount of meat at Wegman's. I don't buy the pre stuffed
    pork chops but will buy pork chops and make my own stuffing mix. Will usually put the stuffing (dressing, since it's not stuffed into
    anything) down in a pan, put the pork chops over that and bake. Easier than trying to wrestle with putting stuffing into the chops--tried that when we were first married but found it easier to do unstuffed chops.

    When I make stuffed chops I do as Humphrey's and Hy-Vee and cut a
    pocket in a thick chop and stuff it (literally) with the mixture.
    Cooking for
    one most of the time it's a genuine P.I.T.A. to stuff a pork chop.
    Bv)=

    That's why I do pork chops and stuffing as it's not fun to stuff just 2
    chops. (G)

    But Popeyes keeps me afloat.

    We hit them up every so often, there's one in the same plaza as Harbor Freight down in Raleigh.

    I buy very little at Harbor Freight as I don't care to support Comrade
    Xi and his dirty commie rats. Sometimes you can't get away from buying Chinese made stuff - but I avoid it when/where I can ... even it it is
    a bit more expen$ive.

    They have a lot of tools that are a decent price, most of them fairly
    sturdy (had some duds over the years). I've bought some of their
    organiser boxes for sewing/crafting stuff over the years.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Sat Jun 8 13:44:54 2024
    Hi Shawn,


    OUCH! That's a real pain. I shattered the radius bone in both wrists
    back in 1992, have metal in both of them now after 2 surgeries on the right, 3 on the left (and I'm left handed). Some use is better than
    none but when I'm stirring something on the stove, I'll have to switch stirring hands every so often.

    Andrea can't figure out how I'm able to do as much as I am. The
    doctor's tell us one thing about my hands, and I ignore them and just
    find work
    arounds. One thing that did help was when I stopped driving at work
    and just drive a desk. The wheelchair connections were starting to
    really
    do a number on them. However, now I type on a computer for a living
    so probably worse in the long run.

    That'll do a number on the hands/wrists but as long as you can work
    around it, keep going. I usually wear a light brace on my left hand for
    a lot of repetitive motion jobs, typing, hand sewing, etc.


    It should be, tho cutting it out will be a bear--lots of triangular
    cuts. I'll probably have to cut it over several days.

    Ask Steve to help with that part? Sounds like a decent project for a
    cold winter evening.

    Two reasons that wouldn't work: 1) his cutting is just enough different
    from mine that seams wouldn't match as well and 2) natural light is
    better than artificial for matching colors, points, etc. I'll probably
    take it to the American Legion building in town (Steve's a member, has a
    key and they let me use it for cutting big projects.) as it's big (can
    set up 2 long tables, end to end with walk around room) and is well lit.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Shawn Highfield on Sun Jun 9 17:15:02 2024
    Re: Ravioli
    By: Shawn Highfield to CAROL SHENKENBERGER on Sun Jun 09 2024 06:45 am

    Quoting Carol Shenkenberger to Shawn Highfield <=-

    Nope, just wash, remove stems and leaves, then freeze. I make tomato sauces with them, so texture isn't a factor. Just slip off the skins under hot water.

    I'm going to do that this year if we are gifted with a lot of maters. Of course that's over a month away from now. I hate making huge batches of sauce so will try!

    from spinal damage. Jars have become almost impossible.

    Sorry to hear.

    When Don comes home, I'll start garlic, chop the shrimps, then add the mushrooms and Don will take over to stir fry the rest, adding more olive oil if needed.

    Team work.

    Shawn

    ... I'm FLYING, I'm FLYING! >>THUD<<

    Yes, the freezing tomatoes works well for sauces. Someone once said 'you can't do that' but it's just not traditional and not food unsafe is well washed and stem/greenery removed. They can't be used for slicing tomatoes after freezing but flavor is preserved and all the juices by leaving the skins on until hot water thaw of just the exterior so they slip off.

    Looks like I'm cropping 4 tomatoes a day here for the next 2-3 months plus cherry tomatoes. (I have a fairly extensive container garden).

    Yes, a lot of teamwork here. Tinight the Beef stwe was started too late for dinner, so I'll ask Don to do the honors and we'll have beef stew for breakfast (grin). I needed to start the stew earlier, oops.

    xxcarol
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to CAROL SHENKENBERGER on Mon Jun 10 06:46:00 2024
    Quoting Carol Shenkenberger to Shawn Highfield <=-

    juices by leaving the skins on until hot water thaw of just the
    exterior so they slip off.

    I'm going to try for sure and will let you know. :)

    Looks like I'm cropping 4 tomatoes a day here for the next 2-3 months
    plus cherry tomatoes. (I have a fairly extensive container garden).

    We are hoping for a few cherry tomatoes this year, Andrea is trying again
    to keep a plant alive on our balcony.

    Yes, a lot of teamwork here. Tinight the Beef stwe was started too
    late for dinner, so I'll ask Don to do the honors and we'll have beef
    stew for breakfast (grin). I needed to start the stew earlier, oops.

    Sounds like a good breakfast to me!!

    Shawn

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jun 10 06:49:27 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Never been to either place, people traps run by a mouse.

    I've never been to either. The California version had too many rules
    and dress codes for me to be comfortable. I could care less about the rides (except the Monorail - which would have been neat) and "skill" games. Even when I was a child during the last century the only ride
    I cared to squander my lawn-mowing and paper route money on was the Dodge-ems (Bumper Cars) or watching the motorcyclists riding the "Wall
    of Death". But tht was before I learned about centrifugal force and
    then understood the "gimmick" that let it works as an exhibit.

    My favorite was the ferris wheel. Steve went to the Florida park the
    year after it opened; the girls both went to the California one on
    school trips when we were in AZ.

    Our Ferris Wheel was copied from one the owner of the Eli Bridge Co. had
    seen at the Columbian Exposition. This first “Big Eli” Wheel debuted in Jacksonville, Illinois’ own Central Park on May 23, 1900. (corner Main
    and Morton streets. The Wheel was a great success and, in 1906, Sullivan incorporated the Eli Bridge Company by taking on capital investors to mass-produce his wheels.

    Big Eli #17 is a nice sized working/display wheel located at the main intersection in town. The north-east corner of what used to the main
    insane asylum and is now a school for "developmentally disabled". The Jacksonville Rotary Clud still operated the ride with profits going to
    their charitable works.

    https://showmensmuseum.org/vintage-carnival-rides/eli-ferris-wheel/

    The last time I rode a ferris wheel it was the double wheel Eli at my
    Illinois State Fair's "Happy Hollow" The dratted thing broke down and
    we had to be rescued by the fire department's hook & ladder guys. Never
    Again!


    8<----- Coffee Break ----->8

    Never tackled a French press. I've a Hamilton-Beach single cup coffee
    aker which uses either loose coffe or pods. And my 12 cup (5 of my big cups/mugs) Sears & Roebuck automatic drip unit. It's a Cuisinart under
    the Serious & Getback branding. It has an internal water filter, uses
    the conical coffee filters and I can set it to the start brewing on
    the built in timer. So at 04:00 the Yehudi wakes up and makes my
    coffee.

    I've kidded Steve about being a coffee snob but he's not really. No gourmet beans, ground just before use but he does grind his own.

    I developed a blend if pre-roasted beans that I quite liked and would
    grind them in my R2-D2 spice/coffee grinder. But I discovered Maxwell
    House Intense Bold and Folger's Black Silk and alternated between
    those depending on which is on sale when I need to re-stock.

    Two was of making tea. Single cups - like you, I use a tea bag and hot (boiling or nearly so) water. For multiple cups - or for Iced Tea I
    use the Mary Dunbar/Jewel Tea tea pot that my grandmother had and an aluminum tea ball/infuser to hold loose tea leaves. A pixture of one
    very like it (except in stainless steel) is at https://tinyurl.com/TEA-BAWL

    We've got one of those ball infusers; it was one part of a number of things I got from my grandmother's estate 50 years ago.

    My usual non-morning tea is Brown & Bigelow's "Constant Comment". Up
    until (and including) lunchtime my go-to is Twining's Breakfast Tea or Lipton if the market was out of Twinings.

    I go for Tetley British Blend most mornings, treat myself on Sunday mornings to Good Earth's Original Sweet and Spicy.

    I tried the well-known and much ballyhooed Earl Grey tea ... once. I do
    NOT like oil of bergamot as a beverage. Although it is useful in some
    recipes.

    All straight up - like my coffee. No milk, no sugar, no sweetners.

    One packet of stevia for me, unless we're hitting the road. Then the
    tea is brewed just a bit longer, goes into a travel mug that keeps it
    warm about 8 hours. It gets 2 packets of stevia then.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Earl Grey Tea Cake With Dark Chocolate and Orange Zest
    Categories: Cakes, Desserts,
    Yield: 9 servings

    MMMMM-------------------------FROSTING-------------------------------
    3/4 c (180 mL) heavy cream
    2 ts Loose Earl Grey tea
    1/4 c (30 g) confectioners' sugar
    1/2 c (115 g) mascarpone or
    - softened cream cheese * MMMMM---------------------------CAKE---------------------------------
    1/2 c (115 g) unsalted butter;
    - room temp, more to grease
    - the pan
    1 1/2 c (190 g) A-P flour
    1 tb Loose Earl Grey tea
    1 ts Baking powder
    1/2 ts Kosher salt
    1 c (200 g) granulated sugar
    2 ts Freshly grated orange zest;
    - from 1 large orange
    2 lg Eggs; room temp
    1/2 c (120 mL) whole milk; room
    - temp
    1/4 c (45 g)chop'd dark chocolate

    PREPARE THE FROSTING: In a small saucepan, bring 1/2
    cup/120 mL heavy cream to a simmer over medium-high
    heat. Stir in the tea, remove from the heat, cover and
    let stand for at least 30 minutes and up to 1 hour.
    Strain the tea through a fine-mesh sieve, discarding the
    solids, and chill the remaining cream until completely
    cold, at least 1 hour.

    PREPARE THE CAKE: Heat the oven to 350 degrees. Butter
    an 8" round cake pan and line with parchment paper. In a
    medium bowl, whisk together the flour, tea, baking
    powder and salt.

    In large bowl, beat the butter and sugar with an
    electric mixer on medium until light and fluffy, about 3
    minutes. Add the orange zest and beat to combine. Add
    the eggs, one at a time, and beat until combined,
    scraping the sides of the bowl as necessary. Beat in the
    flour mixture on low, until just combined, then beat in
    the milk. (Don’t overmix.) Add the chocolate and fold it
    in using a spatula. Transfer the batter to the prepared
    pan and smooth the top. Bake just until a toothpick
    comes out with moist crumbs attached, 30 to 35 minutes.
    Transfer to a rack to cool for about 15 minutes. Then
    tip the cake out onto the rack to cool completely.

    To finish the frosting, add the remaining 1/4 cup/60 mL
    cream and the confectioners' sugar to the tea cream.
    With an electric mixer on medium, beat the cream mixture
    until medium-stiff peaks form, 2 to 3 minutes. Add the
    mascarpone and beat just until stiff peaks form. (Do not
    overmix.) Top the cake with the frosting to serve. Store
    leftovers covered in the fridge for up to 3 days; let
    come to room temperature before serving.

    * TIP: If using cream cheese instead of mascarpone,
    because it has a thicker consistency, whip the cream
    cheese with the confectioners' sugar first, then add the
    whipped tea cream.

    By: Samantha Seneviratne

    Yield: 8 to 10 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jun 10 07:14:06 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    The one in the town where I grew up folded in the first decade of this millenium. Bought out by Fresh Town, locals thought they upped prices
    but Steve and I found them pretty much in line with what we pay.

    Kroger is still the #1 supermarkt retailer in America, Albertsons is
    in 2nd place. My Hy-Vee comes in at #12 and your Wegman's at #13.

    None of the first 3 in our area; Kroger was, but none in the last
    decade or so.

    To be fair - Kroger includes many regional brands like the no-frills
    Ruler Foods we have here. They (kroger) also own Ralphs, Dillons,
    Smith's, Roundy's, King Soopers, Fry's, QFC, City Market, Owen's,
    Jay C, Pay Less, Baker's, Gerbes, Harris Teeter, Pick N' Save, Copps,
    Metro Market, Mariano's, Fred Meyer, Food 4 Less, Foods Co.

    And they are tussling with the anti-trust arm of the US gummint over
    their proposed aquisition of #2 Albertson's which will include: Safeway,
    Vons, Jewel-Osco, Shaw’s, Acme, Tom Thumb, Randalls, United Supermarkets, Pavilions, Star Market, Carrs and Haggen

    8<----- SNIP ----->8

    I buy nearly all of my meat at Humphrey's. Occasionally I'll pick up a round of pre-stuffed pork chops at Hy-Vee if the price is attractive.

    We get a fair amount of meat at Wegman's. I don't buy the pre stuffed
    pork chops but will buy pork chops and make my own stuffing mix. Will usually put the stuffing (dressing, since it's not stuffed into
    anything) down in a pan, put the pork chops over that and bake. Easier than trying to wrestle with putting stuffing into the chops--tried that when we were first married but found it easier to do unstuffed chops.

    When I make stuffed chops I do as Humphrey's and Hy-Vee and cut a
    pocket in a thick chop and stuff it (literally) with the mixture.
    Cooking for one most of the time it's a genuine P.I.T.A. to stuff
    a pork chop. Bv)=

    That's why I do pork chops and stuffing as it's not fun to stuff just 2 chops. (G)

    OK. You talked me into it. Now to finger out how to do just enough dressing
    for one. Bv)=

    But Popeyes keeps me afloat.

    We hit them up every so often, there's one in the same plaza as Harbor Freight down in Raleigh.

    I buy very little at Harbor Freight as I don't care to support Comrade
    Xi and his dirty commie rats. Sometimes you can't get away from buying Chinese made stuff - but I avoid it when/where I can ... even it it is
    a bit more expen$ive.

    They have a lot of tools that are a decent price, most of them fairly sturdy (had some duds over the years). I've bought some of their
    organiser boxes for sewing/crafting stuff over the years.

    I've got one of their collapsible hand trucks that I keep in the trunk
    of my car. It has come in handy more than once.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Whole Wheat-Sausage Stuffing
    Categories: Stuffing, Pork, Breads, Vegetables, Herbs
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1/2 lb Pork sausage
    1/2 c Chopped bell pepper
    1/2 c Chopped onion
    1/2 c Chopped celery
    1 c Chicken broth
    1 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Sage
    1/2 ts Crushed rosemary
    1/2 ts Thyme
    4 c Whole-grain wheat bread
    - cubes

    Brown sausage. Add bell pepper, celery and onion; cook
    until crisp-tender.

    Stir in chicken broth and seasonings; bring to a boil.
    Remove from heat. Stir in bread cubes; toss lightly
    until moisture is absorbed. Cover and let stand about
    five minutes.

    Makes 6 servings

    From: http://www.recipelink.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Jun 10 11:40:43 2024
    Hi Dave,


    My favorite was the ferris wheel. Steve went to the Florida park the
    year after it opened; the girls both went to the California one on
    school trips when we were in AZ.

    Our Ferris Wheel was copied from one the owner of the Eli Bridge Co.
    had seen at the Columbian Exposition. This first “Big Eli” Wheel debuted in Jacksonville, Illinois’ own Central Park on May 23, 1900. (corner Main and Morton streets. The Wheel was a great success and, in 1906, Sullivan incorporated the Eli Bridge Company by taking on
    capital investors to
    mass-produce his wheels.

    Big Eli #17 is a nice sized working/display wheel located at the main intersection in town. The north-east corner of what used to the main insane asylum and is now a school for "developmentally disabled". The Jacksonville Rotary Clud still operated the ride with profits going to their charitable works.

    Sounds like fun. One day I may get to ride the big ferris wheel in
    London. I don't think it was there when I visited the city in the late
    80s.

    8<----- Coffee Break ----->8

    Never tackled a French press. I've a Hamilton-Beach single cup coffee
    aker which uses either loose coffe or pods. And my 12 cup (5 of my big cups/mugs) Sears & Roebuck automatic drip unit. It's a Cuisinart under
    the Serious & Getback branding. It has an internal water filter, uses
    the conical coffee filters and I can set it to the start brewing on
    the built in timer. So at 04:00 the Yehudi wakes up and makes my
    coffee.

    I've kidded Steve about being a coffee snob but he's not really. No gourmet beans, ground just before use but he does grind his own.

    I developed a blend if pre-roasted beans that I quite liked and would grind them in my R2-D2 spice/coffee grinder. But I discovered Maxwell House Intense Bold and Folger's Black Silk and alternated between
    those depending on which is on sale when I need to re-stock.

    He usually gets his beans at Cost Plus World Market or one of the big
    savings stores (Costco).

    (boiling or nearly so) water. For multiple cups - or for Iced Tea I
    use the Mary Dunbar/Jewel Tea tea pot that my grandmother had and an aluminum tea ball/infuser to hold loose tea leaves. A pixture of one
    very like it (except in stainless steel) is at https://tinyurl.com/TEA-BAWL

    We've got one of those ball infusers; it was one part of a number of things I got from my grandmother's estate 50 years ago.

    My usual non-morning tea is Brown & Bigelow's "Constant Comment". Up
    until (and including) lunchtime my go-to is Twining's Breakfast Tea or Lipton if the market was out of Twinings.

    I go for Tetley British Blend most mornings, treat myself on Sunday mornings to Good Earth's Original Sweet and Spicy.

    I tried the well-known and much ballyhooed Earl Grey tea ... once. I
    do NOT like oil of bergamot as a beverage. Although it is useful in
    some recipes.

    Not one of our favorites either.

    All straight up - like my coffee. No milk, no sugar, no sweetners.

    One packet of stevia for me, unless we're hitting the road. Then the
    tea is brewed just a bit longer, goes into a travel mug that keeps it
    warm about 8 hours. It gets 2 packets of stevia then.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Jun 10 11:45:24 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Kroger is still the #1 supermarkt retailer in America, Albertsons is
    in 2nd place. My Hy-Vee comes in at #12 and your Wegman's at #13.

    None of the first 3 in our area; Kroger was, but none in the last
    decade or so.

    To be fair - Kroger includes many regional brands like the no-frills
    Ruler Foods we have here. They (kroger) also own Ralphs, Dillons, Smith's, Roundy's, King Soopers, Fry's, QFC, City Market, Owen's,
    Jay C, Pay Less, Baker's, Gerbes, Harris Teeter, Pick N' Save, Copps, Metro Market, Mariano's, Fred Meyer, Food 4 Less, Foods Co.

    OK, we do have Harris Teeter. Shopped Smith's from time to time when we
    were in AZ and the commissary didn't have what I wanted.


    I buy nearly all of my meat at Humphrey's. Occasionally I'll pick up a round of pre-stuffed pork chops at Hy-Vee if the price is attractive.

    We get a fair amount of meat at Wegman's. I don't buy the pre stuffed
    pork chops but will buy pork chops and make my own stuffing mix. Will usually put the stuffing (dressing, since it's not stuffed into
    anything) down in a pan, put the pork chops over that and bake. Easier than trying to wrestle with putting stuffing into the chops--tried that when we were first married but found it easier to do unstuffed chops.

    When I make stuffed chops I do as Humphrey's and Hy-Vee and cut a
    pocket in a thick chop and stuff it (literally) with the mixture.
    Cooking for one most of the time it's a genuine P.I.T.A. to stuff
    a pork chop. Bv)=

    That's why I do pork chops and stuffing as it's not fun to stuff just 2 chops. (G)

    OK. You talked me into it. Now to finger out how to do just enough dressing for one. Bv)=

    Make a batch, freeze it in meal size portions using the vaccuum packer.


    But Popeyes keeps me afloat.

    We hit them up every so often, there's one in the same plaza as Harbor Freight down in Raleigh.

    I buy very little at Harbor Freight as I don't care to support Comrade
    Xi and his dirty commie rats. Sometimes you can't get away from buying Chinese made stuff - but I avoid it when/where I can ... even it it is
    a bit more expen$ive.

    They have a lot of tools that are a decent price, most of them fairly sturdy (had some duds over the years). I've bought some of their
    organiser boxes for sewing/crafting stuff over the years.

    I've got one of their collapsible hand trucks that I keep in the trunk
    of my car. It has come in handy more than once.

    We have one in our truck also, got it for free at a yard sale a couple
    of months ago.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Shawn Highfield on Tue Jun 11 17:05:43 2024
    Re: Ravioli
    By: Shawn Highfield to CAROL SHENKENBERGER on Mon Jun 10 2024 06:46 am

    Quoting Carol Shenkenberger to Shawn Highfield <=-

    juices by leaving the skins on until hot water thaw of just the exterior so they slip off.

    I'm going to try for sure and will let you know. :)

    Looks like I'm cropping 4 tomatoes a day here for the next 2-3 months plus cherry tomatoes. (I have a fairly extensive container garden).

    We are hoping for a few cherry tomatoes this year, Andrea is trying again
    to keep a plant alive on our balcony.

    Yes, a lot of teamwork here. Tinight the Beef stwe was started too late for dinner, so I'll ask Don to do the honors and we'll have beef stew for breakfast (grin). I needed to start the stew earlier, oops.

    Sounds like a good breakfast to me!!

    Shawn

    ... For every action there's an equal and opposite criticism.

    Yes, breakfast was good! I made up biscuits to go with it.

    Good luck on the tomatoes! Just remember, big pot for them. My plants are in 6ft long 12 inch high and 16 inch wide containers with drain holes at the bottom mostly. I started this type of 'farming' on a balcony. then contiued in various places like Japan and so on.

    xxcarol
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to CAROL SHENKENBERGER on Wed Jun 12 07:35:00 2024
    Quoting Carol Shenkenberger to Shawn Highfield <=-

    Good luck on the tomatoes! Just remember, big pot for them. My
    plants are in 6ft long 12 inch high and 16 inch wide containers with
    drain holes at the bottom mostly. I started this type of 'farming' on
    a balcony. then contiued in various places like Japan and so on.

    Yes she's got it in a big pot. She needs a win with this so bad.

    Shawn

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Shawn Highfield on Fri Jun 14 15:43:12 2024
    Re: Ravioli
    By: Shawn Highfield to CAROL SHENKENBERGER on Wed Jun 12 2024 07:35 am

    Quoting Carol Shenkenberger to Shawn Highfield <=-

    Good luck on the tomatoes! Just remember, big pot for them. My
    plants are in 6ft long 12 inch high and 16 inch wide containers with drain holes at the bottom mostly. I started this type of 'farming' on a balcony. then contiued in various places like Japan and so on.

    Yes she's got it in a big pot. She needs a win with this so bad.

    Shawn

    ... This tagline not sponsored by Pepsi in any way.

    She'll do fine then! Here, 6ft long sections on container (see above) get 3 tomato plants then inbeteen is marigolds or a small lettuce patch. Basically 'tight planting'. The maigold is to deter rats which are a problem here.

    xxcarol
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