• Round Tuits

    From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Apr 23 07:00:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I've got a lot of "round tuits" many of which may never be gotten
    around to. But I do get a sense of satisfaction when I mark one off
    the list.

    My list is probably longer than I realise but it does feel good to
    get items marked off from time to time.

    I should mention that it's a "mental" list. If I had a hard-copy list it
    might prevent getting duplicates - which I have done.

    Some people call that a bucket list.

    Either way, it's something to aim for. I told Steve earlier today that
    the quilt kit we picked up last September at the RV/radio net rally in
    TX will probably be put together next year. I'm trying to devote most

    My mental picture of that is a cloth jig-saw puzzle that's the embodiment
    of "some assembly required". Bv)=

    of this year to UFOs but not getting as many done as I hoped to--latest hold up is a fall last Friday that didn't break anything but gave me
    some deep bruises on the left side of my back.

    What is a "UFO"? I assume that UF means unfinished. But what does the
    "O" signify?

    I know about the deep bruising. I stubbed my toe coming in a door due
    to a higher than usual threshold. I had a roll of waitress bait (gold
    dollar coins) in my pocket which gave me a deep thigh bruise. Been
    walking funny the past few days.

    I was young and energetic. These days I'm north of 80 and getting
    tired.

    I'm not there yet but times I feel much older. Other times I feel
    I'm too young to be this old. (G)

    I know I have some clear memories of a couple of things from WWII - my
    more knowledgeable friends tell me that such memory is unusual since I
    was three years old when the war ended and my brain wad still forming.

    But we all know someone our age (or a bit younger) who is in far wprse shape than we.

    I know the words to that song. Time has been kind to my physical shell
    and many people are amazed when they learn that I'm the age I am. "You sure don't look that old." To which my standard comeback is "Try
    looking through my eyes" Bv)=

    Work/keeping you active has probably kept you going.

    If it were onl;y possible to be old without getting old. Bv)=

    Did you ever see the movie or read the book "Tuck Everlasting"? We
    caught a bit of the movie one time, basically a family discovers a fountain of youth thing (we missed how) and their relationships with
    the "outside world" over the years. Don't know how it ended up.

    Definitely not the movie. I've seen the book on offer but reading the
    jacket blurbs and the synopsis have not encouraged me to go further. I
    have read everything that Robert Heinlein (Admiral Bob) has published,
    starting with Rocket Ship Galileo when I was 8 years old. Also all I
    have come across by Lewis Lamour (westerns - many made into movies) &
    my new favourite James Lee Burke. And carry my Kindle with me every
    where I go.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Meanwhile, local strawberries are beginning to hit the market.
    Steve RH> picked some up for me at the local farmer's market so we've
    had RH> strawberry short cake and a riff on a salad we'd had last year
    in RH> Fairbanks. Salad has candied pecans, craisins, bacon bits, feta
    cheese, RH> strawberries, greens (I used fresh spinach) and a balsamic
    vinegarette RH> dressing. We'll probably enjoy it a few more times
    before the end of RH> fresh strawberry season. (G)

    We're a bit behind you. Our season is mid-May to ...... We have
    several U-Pick and/or farm stands plus the farmer's market.

    I picked some up at one of the local grocery stores this afternoon.
    More strawberry salads and maybe a strawberry pie in the near future.

    I'm beginning to see them in some of the stupormarkups at a high
    value. Suttill's Farm or Jefferies Orchard (local Farm stands) are offering onion set and seed potatoes on their signage. Apparetly
    nothing much is "in" just yet. And the current outdoors temp as I
    type this is 33oSo it will be a bit before the plants take off.

    We'll have local berries from now until late May, then the local blueberries will take over, until early August, then we'll get local peaches.

    One of Illinois' counties is known for peaches. When I see the roadside
    pick-up trucks with the "CALHOUN PEACHES" sign I will grab a bag to take
    home at least once. Soe things need fresh peaches. Others work better with canned peaches. Bv)=

    I've had something very much like this in the past. It wold be very
    easy to make with a pre-made graham cracher or chocolate cookie
    crust.

    Title: Big Guy Strawberry Pie
    Categories: Pies, Pastry, Fruits
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Among the recipies Steve's mom gave me when we first got married was something similar to this. Not quite as involved but probably just as good; I've made it probably most every spring since we've been married. I'll do one later this week with Steve helping to do the crust, etc as
    my back isn't in shape for things like that yet.

    As I noted using a pre-made crust simplifies that recipe wonderfully. When
    your back gets better you might like this:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Peach Cobbler Dump Cake
    Categories: Cakes, Desserets, Fruits, Nuts
    Yield: 15 servings

    30 oz (2 cans) sliced peaches in
    - extra-light syrup
    2 tb Brown sugar
    1 ts Ground cinnamon
    18 oz Box yellow cake mix
    3/4 c Sliced almonds
    1/2 c Cold butter

    Set oven @ 350ºF/175ºC.

    Pour 1 can of peaches into a greased 13" X 9" baking
    dish. Drain remaining can of peaches and add to baking
    dish; sprinkle with brown sugar and cinnamon. Sprinkle
    with cake mix and almonds.

    Cut butter into very thin slices; arrange over top,
    spacing evenly. Bake until golden brown and fruit is
    bubbly, 35-40 minutes. Serve warm.

    Keri Sparks, Little Elm, Texas

    Makes 15 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Apr 23 13:00:42 2024
    Hi Dave,


    I've got a lot of "round tuits" many of which may never be gotten
    around to. But I do get a sense of satisfaction when I mark one off
    the list.

    My list is probably longer than I realise but it does feel good to
    get items marked off from time to time.

    I should mention that it's a "mental" list. If I had a hard-copy list
    it might prevent getting duplicates - which I have done.

    My list is more mental too, when I see something that I want to do, I'll
    try to make (mental) note of where it is. Then, depending on what's
    ahead of it on the list, I'll stash it where I should remember it when
    the time comes to work on it. Trying to get my sewing room more
    organised that way too.


    Some people call that a bucket list.

    Either way, it's something to aim for. I told Steve earlier today that
    the quilt kit we picked up last September at the RV/radio net rally in
    TX will probably be put together next year. I'm trying to devote most

    My mental picture of that is a cloth jig-saw puzzle that's the
    embodiment of "some assembly required". Bv)=

    We cut up perfectly good cloth only to sew it back together again. (G)


    of this year to UFOs but not getting as many done as I hoped to--latest hold up is a fall last Friday that didn't break anything but gave me
    some deep bruises on the left side of my back.

    What is a "UFO"? I assume that UF means unfinished. But what does the
    "O" signify?

    Object, UFP (project) doesn't quite have the same ring to it. (G)


    I know about the deep bruising. I stubbed my toe coming in a door due
    to a higher than usual threshold. I had a roll of waitress bait (gold dollar coins) in my pocket which gave me a deep thigh bruise. Been
    walking funny the past few days.

    I understand, I'm not walking funny but just very carefully and trying
    not to twist in the wrong direction.


    I was young and energetic. These days I'm north of 80 and getting
    tired.

    I'm not there yet but times I feel much older. Other times I feel
    I'm too young to be this old. (G)

    I know I have some clear memories of a couple of things from WWII - my more knowledgeable friends tell me that such memory is unusual since I
    was three years old when the war ended and my brain wad still forming.

    And I was born after the Korean crisis. My parents were planning to get
    married on Oct. 7, 1950. Before Dad went to NJ to be an usher at my
    mom's sister's wedding, he stopped off at the Naval recruiting office to
    pick up his reserve extention paperwork. He put it in the visor of his
    car when he parked at the airport. The day after the wedding, the news
    broke about Korea--when Dad flew back home and got to his car, the first
    thing he did was to tear up the paperwork. He and Mom got married 5
    weeks later, engraved invitations and the whole 9 yards. He got his
    discharge paperwork around Thanksgiving--about the time Mom found out
    she was expecting my older brother.

    But we all know someone our age (or a bit younger) who is in far
    wprse DD> shape than we.

    Exactly! And as long as I can, I'm going to try to keep my mind active,
    my body, as much as I can.


    I know the words to that song. Time has been kind to my physical shell
    and many people are amazed when they learn that I'm the age I am. "You sure don't look that old." To which my standard comeback is "Try
    looking through my eyes" Bv)=

    Work/keeping you active has probably kept you going.

    If it were onl;y possible to be old without getting old. Bv)=

    Did you ever see the movie or read the book "Tuck Everlasting"? We
    caught a bit of the movie one time, basically a family discovers a fountain of youth thing (we missed how) and their relationships with
    the "outside world" over the years. Don't know how it ended up.

    Definitely not the movie. I've seen the book on offer but reading the jacket blurbs and the synopsis have not encouraged me to go further. I have read everything that Robert Heinlein (Admiral Bob) has published, starting with Rocket Ship Galileo when I was 8 years old. Also all I
    have come across by Lewis Lamour (westerns - many made into movies) &
    my new favourite James Lee Burke. And carry my Kindle with me every
    where I go.

    I do a combination of real books and using my Nook, the latter being
    more useful for travel. Our Legion post just started a library--in the
    donated but we don't want so free for the taking basket, I grabbed the
    Natchez Burning trilogy by Greg Iles. It's kept me occupied while
    waiting for the back to heal enough to be more active.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    I picked some up at one of the local grocery stores this afternoon.
    More strawberry salads and maybe a strawberry pie in the near future.

    I'm beginning to see them in some of the stupormarkups at a high
    value. Suttill's Farm or Jefferies Orchard (local Farm stands) are offering onion set and seed potatoes on their signage. Apparetly
    nothing much is "in" just yet. And the current outdoors temp as I
    type this is 33oSo it will be a bit before the plants take off.

    We'll have local berries from now until late May, then the local blueberries will take over, until early August, then we'll get local peaches.

    One of Illinois' counties is known for peaches. When I see the
    roadside pick-up trucks with the "CALHOUN PEACHES" sign I will grab a
    bag to take home at least once. Soe things need fresh peaches. Others
    work better with canned peaches. Bv)=

    I probably need to make a batch of peach and a batch of blueberry jam
    this year. Probably should do peach butter too, it's actually easier
    than the jam. There's usually a vendor from SC at the farmer's market in July/August with peaches but I'll see if I can get some local ones. May
    can some as well.



    I've had something very much like this in the past. It wold be very
    easy to make with a pre-made graham cracher or chocolate cookie
    crust.

    Title: Big Guy Strawberry Pie
    Categories: Pies, Pastry, Fruits
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Among the recipies Steve's mom gave me when we first got married was something similar to this. Not quite as involved but probably just as good; I've made it probably most every spring since we've been married. I'll do one later this week with Steve helping to do the crust, etc as
    my back isn't in shape for things like that yet.

    As I noted using a pre-made crust simplifies that recipe wonderfully.
    When your back gets better you might like this:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Peach Cobbler Dump Cake
    Categories: Cakes, Desserets, Fruits, Nuts
    Yield: 15 servings

    It does look tempting. But as for the crust, we've got some lard on hand
    asking to be made into pie crusts so.............


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Apr 24 17:42:07 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    My mental picture of that is a cloth jig-saw puzzle that's the
    embodiment of "some assembly required". Bv)=

    We cut up perfectly good cloth only to sew it back together again. (G)

    of this year to UFOs but not getting as many done as I hoped to--latest hold up is a fall last Friday that didn't break anything but gave me
    some deep bruises on the left side of my back.

    What is a "UFO"? I assume that UF means unfinished. But what does the
    "O" signify?

    Object, UFP (project) doesn't quite have the same ring to it. (G)

    Hokay. That sorta makes sense.

    I know about the deep bruising. I stubbed my toe coming in a door due
    to a higher than usual threshold. I had a roll of waitress bait (gold dollar coins) in my pocket which gave me a deep thigh bruise. Been
    walking funny the past few days.

    I understand, I'm not walking funny but just very carefully and trying
    not to twist in the wrong direction.

    Had to give in and use a cane. The funny walk was causing a cramp in my
    foot. Sheesh. Fortunately I have a cane that I use mostly in the winter
    when the footing gets a little "iffy" and I need to keep my balance.

    I was young and energetic. These days I'm north of 80 and getting
    tired.

    I'm not there yet but times I feel much older. Other times I feel
    I'm too young to be this old. (G)

    I know I have some clear memories of a couple of things from WWII - my more knowledgeable friends tell me that such memory is unusual since I
    was three years old when the war ended and my brain wad still forming.

    And I was born after the Korean crisis. My parents were planning to get married on Oct. 7, 1950. Before Dad went to NJ to be an usher at my
    mom's sister's wedding, he stopped off at the Naval recruiting office
    to pick up his reserve extention paperwork. He put it in the visor of
    his car when he parked at the airport. The day after the wedding, the
    news broke about Korea--when Dad flew back home and got to his car, the first thing he did was to tear up the paperwork. He and Mom got married
    5 weeks later, engraved invitations and the whole 9 yards. He got his discharge paperwork around Thanksgiving--about the time Mom found out
    she was expecting my older brother.

    But we all know someone our age (or a bit younger) who is in far
    wprse shape than we.

    Exactly! And as long as I can, I'm going to try to keep my mind active,
    my body, as much as I can.

    And a couple who are older that make us hope we're in that good shape when
    we get to that age. Bv)=

    I know the words to that song. Time has been kind to my physical shell
    and many people are amazed when they learn that I'm the age I am. "You sure don't look that old." To which my standard comeback is "Try
    looking through my eyes" Bv)=

    Work/keeping you active has probably kept you going.

    If it were only possible to be old without getting old. Bv)=

    Did you ever see the movie or read the book "Tuck Everlasting"? We
    caught a bit of the movie one time, basically a family discovers a fountain of youth thing (we missed how) and their relationships with
    the "outside world" over the years. Don't know how it ended up.

    Definitely not the movie. I've seen the book on offer but reading the jacket blurbs and the synopsis have not encouraged me to go further. I have read everything that Robert Heinlein (Admiral Bob) has published, starting with Rocket Ship Galileo when I was 8 years old. Also all I
    have come across by Lewis Lamour (westerns - many made into movies) &
    my new favourite James Lee Burke. And carry my Kindle with me every
    where I go.

    I do a combination of real books and using my Nook, the latter being
    more useful for travel. Our Legion post just started a library--in the donated but we don't want so free for the taking basket, I grabbed the Natchez Burning trilogy by Greg Iles. It's kept me occupied while
    waiting for the back to heal enough to be more active.

    I like the Kindle because I can change the type size to something with
    which I am comfortable. And most of my newspapers and magazines are on-
    line editions -- for the same reason(s). Plus on-line doesn't use up trees
    or clog landfills.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    I picked some up at one of the local grocery stores this afternoon.
    More strawberry salads and maybe a strawberry pie in the near future.

    I'm beginning to see them in some of the stupormarkups at a high
    value. Suttill's Farm or Jefferies Orchard (local Farm stands) are offering onion set and seed potatoes on their signage. Apparently
    nothing much is "in" just yet. And the current outdoors temp as I
    type this is 33oSo it will be a bit before the plants take off.

    We'll have local berries from now until late May, then the local blueberries will take over, until early August, then we'll get local peaches.

    One of Illinois' counties is known for peaches. When I see the
    roadside pick-up trucks with the "CALHOUN PEACHES" sign I will grab a
    bag to take home at least once. Soe things need fresh peaches. OthersMMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Old Fashioned Gooseberry Pie
    Categories: Pastry, Fruits, Pies, Citrus
    Yield: 6 Servings

    MMMMM---------------------------CRUST--------------------------------
    2 1/2 c Flour
    1/4 c Sugar
    16 tb (1/2 lb) very cold butter;
    - in small cubes
    4 tb Ice cold milk; more, if
    - needed
    1/2 ts Salt
    1 lg Egg; beaten together
    +=WITH=+
    1 tb Milk; for glazing top crust

    MMMMM--------------------------FILLING-------------------------------
    5 c Whole wild gooseberries;
    - stemmed, washed
    1 1/2 c Sugar; or less
    2 tb Grated fresh ginger
    Juice and zest of one orange
    1/3 c Instant tapioca
    4 tb Butter

    Set oven @ 375ºF/190ºC.

    To make the crust, use stand mixer with paddle beater.
    Beat together butter, flour, sugar and salt until butter
    is in flakes, coated with flour. Do not over mix. Slowly
    add very cold milk, one or two tablespoons at a time.
    When dough first begins to form ball, stop beating. Do
    not add too much liquid. Dough should barely hold
    together. Divide dough into two balls, press into a
    thick disk with hands, wrap in plastic wrap, and
    refrigerator for 30 minutes or longer.

    While dough is chilling, begin preparing the filling.
    Combine all ingredients except butter in a large sauce
    pan, and place over medium heat. Cover until
    gooseberries begin to soften and burst (about 5
    minutes.) Then uncover, and keep barely simmering on
    medium-low heat for an additional 10 minutes. Remove
    from heat and allow to cool while rolling out pastry.

    Once dough has chilled, remove from refrigerator and
    roll out one disk on a lightly floured surface until
    large enough to cover bottom and sides of pie dish, with
    3/4 inch overhang. Crimp edges decoratively, and set pie
    weights on top of bottom crust. Bake for 10 minutes or
    until golden. Do not let edges of crust burn. Cover with
    aluminum foil or pie guard if necessary.

    While bottom crust is baking, roll out second pastry
    disk. Using small biscuit cutter or rim of small juice
    glass, cut out circles from rolled dough. Place circles
    on baking tray and return immediately to refrigerator or
    freezer to keep chilled. (Do not re-roll scraps of extra
    pastry dough, they will become tough. Bake on separate
    baking sheet to snack on with ice cream.)

    Once bottom crust has baked, and filling has cooled,
    pour gooseberry filling into bottom crust. Slice 4
    tablespoons of butter on top of filling, then decorative
    layer of pastry circles in concentric pattern, leaving a
    hole in the middle and around the outer edge. Brush top
    disks with beaten egg/milk mixture. Use aluminum foil
    strips, or pie guard over crust. Return to oven and bake
    for 35 to 50 minutes, or until juices are vigorously
    bubbling. (Be sure to place a baking sheet on rack below
    pie to catch any spilling juices. There will be some.)

    Allow pie to cool completely before serving.

    Serves 8. (according to whom? UDD)

    From: http://beekman1802.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

    work better with canned peaches. Bv)=

    I probably need to make a batch of peach and a batch of blueberry jam
    this year. Probably should do peach butter too, it's actually easier
    than the jam. There's usually a vendor from SC at the farmer's market
    in July/August with peaches but I'll see if I can get some local ones.
    May can some as well.

    I'm loking for a friendly farmer with a wood lot where I can pick wild gooseberries and who won't fill my hindquarters with rock salt or bird
    shot for berrying in his ditches and hedgerows. The problem is that so
    many farms are so heavily indebted that they have to raise cash grain
    crops on every imaginablke square foot of their holdings.

    I've had something very much like this in the past. It wold be very
    easy to make with a pre-made graham cracher or chocolate cookie
    crust.

    Title: Big Guy Strawberry Pie
    Categories: Pies, Pastry, Fruits
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Among the recipies Steve's mom gave me when we first got married was something similar to this. Not quite as involved but probably just as good; I've made it probably most every spring since we've been married. I'll do one later this week with Steve helping to do the crust, etc as
    my back isn't in shape for things like that yet.

    As I noted using a pre-made crust simplifies that recipe wonderfully.
    When your back gets better you might like this:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Peach Cobbler Dump Cake
    Categories: Cakes, Desserets, Fruits, Nuts
    Yield: 15 servings

    It does look tempting. But as for the crust, we've got some lard on
    hand asking to be made into pie crusts so.............

    I am forever amazed at the number of young folks who have no idea about
    using lard in stad of Crisco or Mrs. Tucker's. Bv(=


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Apr 25 12:39:03 2024
    Hi Dave,


    What is a "UFO"? I assume that UF means unfinished. But what does the
    "O" signify?

    Object, UFP (project) doesn't quite have the same ring to it. (G)

    Hokay. That sorta makes sense.

    Just think about it for a moment and it should come to you. I don't
    remember where I heard that term for the first time but it does fit most
    of us.


    I know about the deep bruising. I stubbed my toe coming in a door due
    to a higher than usual threshold. I had a roll of waitress bait (gold dollar coins) in my pocket which gave me a deep thigh bruise. Been
    walking funny the past few days.

    I understand, I'm not walking funny but just very carefully and trying
    not to twist in the wrong direction.

    Had to give in and use a cane. The funny walk was causing a cramp in
    my foot. Sheesh. Fortunately I have a cane that I use mostly in the
    winter when the footing gets a little "iffy" and I need to keep my balance.

    I've got a cane that we picked up in HI when my left leg was in/out of a
    cast or walking boot for the better part of a year. We keep a folding
    one in the truck also, for just in case.

    I'm not there yet but times I feel much older. Other times I feel
    I'm too young to be this old. (G)

    I know I have some clear memories of a couple of things from WWII - my more knowledgeable friends tell me that such memory is unusual since I
    was three years old when the war ended and my brain wad still forming.

    And I was born after the Korean crisis. My parents were planning to get married on Oct. 7, 1950. Before Dad went to NJ to be an usher at my

    But we all know someone our age (or a bit younger) who is in far
    wprse shape than we.

    Exactly! And as long as I can, I'm going to try to keep my mind active,
    my body, as much as I can.

    And a couple who are older that make us hope we're in that good shape
    when we get to that age. Bv)=

    Yes, those that do something to keep their mind sharp. Other than doing
    the daily NY Times crossword puzzle and watching Jeopardy, my mom didn't
    really do anything to challenge her mind when she retired. Don't know
    if it was the dememtia starting to kick in, the out of control
    diabeties, the rheumitiod and osteoarthritis or a combination of things
    but she just vegitated. I'm trying to avoid that for me.

    have read everything that Robert Heinlein (Admiral Bob) has published, starting with Rocket Ship Galileo when I was 8 years old. Also all I
    have come across by Lewis Lamour (westerns - many made into movies) &
    my new favourite James Lee Burke. And carry my Kindle with me every
    where I go.

    I do a combination of real books and using my Nook, the latter being
    more useful for travel. Our Legion post just started a library--in the donated but we don't want so free for the taking basket, I grabbed the Natchez Burning trilogy by Greg Iles. It's kept me occupied while
    waiting for the back to heal enough to be more active.

    I like the Kindle because I can change the type size to something with which I am comfortable. And most of my newspapers and magazines are
    on- line editions -- for the same reason(s). Plus on-line doesn't use
    up trees or clog landfills.

    I can change the type on my Nook but the only regular reading on line
    (other than books) is the Raleigh newspaper. I get my magazines in hard
    copy, also read books in hard copy. The Nook has a good number of books
    but I prefer to use it mostly when traveling. I've also got a good cook
    book collection that I peruse for ideas regularly.


    We'll have local berries from now until late May, then the local blueberries will take over, until early August, then we'll get local peaches.

    One of Illinois' counties is known for peaches. When I see the
    roadside pick-up trucks with the "CALHOUN PEACHES" sign I will grab a
    bag to take home at least once. Soe things need fresh peaches. OthersMMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Old Fashioned Gooseberry Pie
    Categories: Pastry, Fruits, Pies, Citrus
    Yield: 6 Servings

    I don't know if I've ever had a gooseberry, tho have seen many
    references to them. Are they more like a berry or a grape in taste,
    appearance, etc?

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... 90% of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Apr 25 12:56:36 2024
    Hi Dave,

    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<


    I'm loking for a friendly farmer with a wood lot where I can pick wild gooseberries and who won't fill my hindquarters with rock salt or bird shot for berrying in his ditches and hedgerows. The problem is that so many farms are so heavily indebted that they have to raise cash grain crops on every imaginablke square foot of their holdings.


    Yes, small crop farmers are few and far between now. You might want to
    check the state's department of agriculture to see if they keep a
    listing and go from there.


    As I noted using a pre-made crust simplifies that recipe wonderfully.
    When your back gets better you might like this:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Peach Cobbler Dump Cake
    Categories: Cakes, Desserets, Fruits, Nuts
    Yield: 15 servings

    It does look tempting. But as for the crust, we've got some lard on
    hand asking to be made into pie crusts so.............

    I am forever amazed at the number of young folks who have no idea
    about using lard in stad of Crisco or Mrs. Tucker's. Bv(=

    My mom always used lard for her pie crusts. It was always the pre
    packaged, snow white stuff but it was lard. The few times she didn't
    have it and used crisco, the crusts were like cardboard. OTOH, I'll use
    either lard if I have it, or a non hydrogenated shortening (Spectrum).
    Lard makes the tastier, flakier crust but the Spectrum is a decent back
    up.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Apr 27 06:59:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I'm loking for a friendly farmer with a wood lot where I can pick wild gooseberries and who won't fill my hindquarters with rock salt or bird shot for berrying in his ditches and hedgerows. The problem is that so many farms are so heavily indebted that they have to raise cash grain crops on every imaginablke square foot of their holdings.

    Yes, small crop farmers are few and far between now. You might want to check the state's department of agriculture to see if they keep a
    listing and go from there.

    Better to ask around at the Farm & Home or implement dealer. Some years
    ago I helped a friend's father set up a small operation after he retired
    from his 9 to 5 at a local facroey. There was a 120 acre piece of ground
    up for lease on shares - the landlord getting 25% of the revenue from the crops. We went to several "closing-ot" and/or estate auctions and picked
    up the equipment needed for a song. Everyone wanted the lastest, greatest
    and largest for their mega-farms. He bought all the tractors, combines,
    plows, etc. to run his farm for <$3000. Using old-time methods - that he
    grew up with (as did I) he cleared over $35K the first year. And, as he remarked "It keeps me out of my wife's hair and out of the saloons."

    As I noted using a pre-made crust simplifies that recipe wonderfully.
    When your back gets better you might like this:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Peach Cobbler Dump Cake
    Categories: Cakes, Desserets, Fruits, Nuts
    Yield: 15 servings

    It does look tempting. But as for the crust, we've got some lard on
    hand asking to be made into pie crusts so.............

    I am forever amazed at the number of young folks who have no idea
    about using lard in stad of Crisco or Mrs. Tucker's. Bv(=

    My mom always used lard for her pie crusts. It was always the pre packaged, snow white stuff but it was lard. The few times she didn't
    have it and used crisco, the crusts were like cardboard. OTOH, I'll use either lard if I have it, or a non hydrogenated shortening (Spectrum). Lard makes the tastier, flakier crust but the Spectrum is a decent back up.

    If I don't have lard I tend to use butter. Or schmaltz if I have some on
    hand. I can do a good "short" crust with Crisco or Mrs. Tucker's but it
    just isn't the same.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: All Butter Pie Crust
    Categories: Five, Pastry
    Yield: 1 pie

    MMMMM----------------------SINGLE-CRUST PIE--------------------------
    1 1/4 c A-P flour
    1/4 ts Salt
    1/2 c Cold butter; diced
    3 tt (to 4 tb) ice water

    MMMMM----------------------DOUBLE-CRUST PIE--------------------------
    2 1/2 c A-P flour
    1/2 ts Salt
    1 c Cold butter; diced
    1/3 c (to 2/3 c) ice water

    Combine flour and salt; cut in butter until crumbly.
    Gradually add ice water, tossing with a fork until dough
    holds together when pressed.

    Shape dough into a disk for a single-crust pie. For a
    double-crust pie, divide dough in half, with 1 piece
    slightly larger than the other; shape into 2 disks. Wrap
    and refrigerate 1 hour or overnight.

    On a lightly floured surface, roll 1 disk of dough to a
    1/8" thick circle; transfer to a 9" pie plate.

    FOR A SINGLE-CRUST PIE: Trim crust to 1/2" beyond rim of
    plate; flute edge. Fill or bake according to recipe
    directions.

    FOR A DOUBLE-CRUST PIE: Add filling to crust. Roll
    remaining dough to a 1/8-in.-thick circle. Place over
    filling. Trim, seal and flute edge. Cut slits in top.
    Bake according to recipe directions.

    UDD NOTE: Do not be afraid to use more water if you
    think it necessary. The numbers given are lowest
    limit. I've used as much as 6 TB on a single crust.

    Taste of Home Test Kitchen

    Makes: dough for one 9" pie

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Apr 27 07:32:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    And a couple who are older that make us hope we're in that good shape
    when we get to that age. Bv)=

    Yes, those that do something to keep their mind sharp. Other than doing the daily NY Times crossword puzzle and watching Jeopardy, my mom
    didn't really do anything to challenge her mind when she retired. Don't know if it was the dememtia starting to kick in, the out of control diabeties, the rheumitiod and osteoarthritis or a combination of things but she just vegitated. I'm trying to avoid that for me.

    Gotta keep active. I've seen too many people I know who retired and sat
    in front of the boob tube with a soda and bag of chips until they were
    put in a box and then the box into the ground. I don't do the Sunday Times crossword very often. But I do the daily almost daily. Somedays I'm on
    the same wavelength as the puzzle writer and fill the boxes as soon as I
    read the clue. Other days I have to stretch - sometimes a lot. Bv)=

    Osteoarthritis comes with age as the cushioning gristle i our joints
    wears out. No evidence of rheumatoid .... yet. And my diabetes is "well controlled" according to my croakers.

    have read everything that Robert Heinlein (Admiral Bob) has published, starting with Rocket Ship Galileo when I was 8 years old. Also all I
    have come across by Lewis Lamour (westerns - many made into movies) &
    my new favourite James Lee Burke. And carry my Kindle with me every
    where I go.

    I do a combination of real books and using my Nook, the latter being
    more useful for travel. Our Legion post just started a library--in the donated but we don't want so free for the taking basket, I grabbed the Natchez Burning trilogy by Greg Iles. It's kept me occupied while
    waiting for the back to heal enough to be more active.

    We have a number of "Little Free Library" locations around town. Any book
    I find in the house that I haven't opened for five or more years goes to
    on of them. I had a location at my house but the city (and state) made me remove it since I live on a busy thoroughfare w/no parking lane. They cited
    the danger factor. https://littlefreelibrary.org

    So, I took the whole megilla to my local Habitat for Humanity Re-Store
    and it was taken off my hands at their intake dock by another person
    with furniture to donate. Bv)=

    I like the Kindle because I can change the type size to something with which I am comfortable. And most of my newspapers and magazines are
    on- line editions -- for the same reason(s). Plus on-line doesn't use
    up trees or clog landfills.

    I can change the type on my Nook but the only regular reading on line (other than books) is the Raleigh newspaper. I get my magazines in hard copy, also read books in hard copy. The Nook has a good number of books but I prefer to use it mostly when traveling. I've also got a good cook book collection that I peruse for ideas regularly.

    I carry the Kindle where ever I go and if I get stuck somewhere for more than
    a cople minutes (waiting on line @ Popeyes drive thru - f'rinstance) out it comes and I'm entertained and/or educated. The only magazines I get in hard copy are those I get as a gift subscription - Taste of Home, Consumer Reports, and Cooks Illustrated. Oh, and all the AARP glurge. But that will fall away as I am not renewing my membership when it comes due.

    The only hard copy book I have that is in active use is Holy Blood Holy
    Grail (a thought provoking documentary) from which I have learned a lot.

    We'll have local berries from now until late May, then the local blueberries will take over, until early August, then we'll get local peaches.

    One of Illinois' counties is known for peaches. When I see the
    roadside pick-up trucks with the "CALHOUN PEACHES" sign I will grab a
    bag to take home at least once. Soe things need fresh peaches.
    Others

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Old Fashioned Gooseberry Pie
    Categories: Pastry, Fruits, Pies, Citrus
    Yield: 6 Servings

    I don't know if I've ever had a gooseberry, tho have seen many
    references to them. Are they more like a berry or a grape in taste, appearance, etc?

    Ask around at your farmer's market. Gooseberries are nutritious, low-
    calorie fruits that are rich in vitamins, minerals, and antioxidants.
    These berries may have health benefits that include lower blood sugar, cholesterol and blood pressure.

    https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/gooseberries

    They vary in colour and can be green, yellow-white, pink, red, or dark
    purple. The ones I've seen are the green. The wild berries are small,
    tart (like rhubarb). Gooseberries found in stupormarkups are from the "developed for commercial use" plants. There are bigger, softer and
    *much* less flavourful.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Spiced Gooseberries (old)
    Categories: Five, Desserts, Fruits, Condiments
    Yield: 6 Pints

    5 lb Gooseberries
    3 lb Brown sugar
    1 pt Vinegar
    2 tb Cinnamon
    1 tb Ground cloves

    Wash gooseberries and remove stems. Combine sugar and
    vinegar. Tie spices in a bag and add to syrup. Bring liquid
    to a boil and add berries. Cook for 20-30 minutes.

    Pack into hot jars and seal.

    Luella Mosheir, Lowville, N.Y.

    Source: Mennonite Community Cookbook, by Mary Emma
    Showalter, 1957. Recipes from old Mennonite cookbooks,
    brought up to date with standard measures and directions.

    From: Sallie Austin

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Apr 29 13:45:04 2024
    Hi Dave,


    I'm loking for a friendly farmer with a wood lot where I can pick wild gooseberries and who won't fill my hindquarters with rock salt or bird

    Yes, small crop farmers are few and far between now. You might want to check the state's department of agriculture to see if they keep a
    listing and go from there.

    Better to ask around at the Farm & Home or implement dealer. Some

    Another good source of infomation, probably better than the state dept.
    of ag, actually.


    years ago I helped a friend's father set up a small operation after he retired from his 9 to 5 at a local facroey. There was a 120 acre piece
    of ground up for lease on shares - the landlord getting 25% of the
    revenue from the crops. We went to several "closing-ot" and/or estate auctions and picked up the equipment needed for a song. Everyone
    wanted the lastest, greatest and largest for their mega-farms. He
    bought all the tractors, combines, plows, etc. to run his farm for
    <$3000. Using old-time methods - that he grew up with (as did I) he cleared over $35K the first year. And, as he remarked "It keeps me out
    of my wife's hair and out of the saloons."

    You can get some pretty good deals at auctions, close out, estate or
    yard sales. The other day we stopped at a yard sale as they were closing
    down; they had a coouple of long tables of free stuff, more on the
    ground underneath. If I'd not given up cake decorating, I could have
    gotten a good supply of pans, tips, etc but my wrists can't take it any
    more. Steve walked away with a small hand truck that has triple wheels
    for going up/down stairs easily. Not for large, heavy loads but it'll be
    good for boxes of radio stuff. Best price possible, too. (G)


    I am forever amazed at the number of young folks who have no idea
    about using lard in stad of Crisco or Mrs. Tucker's. Bv(=

    My mom always used lard for her pie crusts. It was always the pre packaged, snow white stuff but it was lard. The few times she didn't
    have it and used crisco, the crusts were like cardboard. OTOH, I'll use either lard if I have it, or a non hydrogenated shortening (Spectrum). Lard makes the tastier, flakier crust but the Spectrum is a decent back up.

    If I don't have lard I tend to use butter. Or schmaltz if I have some
    on hand. I can do a good "short" crust with Crisco or Mrs. Tucker's
    but it just isn't the same.

    I've used butter before when I've not had anything else. It works ok
    but I'll go with the Spectrum or lard as first choices. My MIL gave me a
    pie crust recipe that uses sour (vinegar) milk and Crisco--comes out
    pretty good but I try to avoid the Crisco. It would probably make a
    really flaky crust if I used the sour milk and lard. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Apr 29 13:57:21 2024
    Hi Dave,


    And a couple who are older that make us hope we're in that good shape
    when we get to that age. Bv)=

    Yes, those that do something to keep their mind sharp. Other than doing but she just vegitated. I'm trying to avoid that for me.

    Gotta keep active. I've seen too many people I know who retired and
    sat in front of the boob tube with a soda and bag of chips until they

    My mom didn't do the snacks but didn't do enough of anything to keep
    herself active one way or another. A hired housekeeper took care of most
    of the heavy work, dad did some also so she didn't get the physical
    exercise she needed either.


    were
    put in a box and then the box into the ground. I don't do the Sunday
    Times crossword very often. But I do the daily almost daily. Somedays
    I'm on
    the same wavelength as the puzzle writer and fill the boxes as soon as
    I read the clue. Other days I have to stretch - sometimes a lot. Bv)=

    I'll do puzzles from time to time but have other ways to keep the mind
    sharp. Jeopardy isn't the same without Alex Trebek but I still watch it,
    read, sew, spend time on the computer, etc.


    Osteoarthritis comes with age as the cushioning gristle i our joints
    wears out. No evidence of rheumatoid .... yet. And my diabetes is
    "well controlled" according to my croakers.

    So is mine, last A1C was 6.3, trying to get it down a bit lower but
    doctor is happy with that.


    We have a number of "Little Free Library" locations around town. Any


    I've seen a few but not checked them out. Last book haul was from the
    Legion post but I'll probably donate some to ReStore. They'll take a
    variety of reading stuff so I might sort thru my cook books too.

    I can change the type on my Nook but the only regular reading on line (other than books) is the Raleigh newspaper. I get my magazines in hard copy, also read books in hard copy. The Nook has a good number of books but I prefer to use it mostly when traveling. I've also got a good cook book collection that I peruse for ideas regularly.

    I carry the Kindle where ever I go and if I get stuck somewhere for
    more than a cople minutes (waiting on line @ Popeyes drive thru - f'rinstance) out it comes and I'm entertained and/or educated. The

    I probably should, but don't carry the Nook more places. We still get
    American Legion/Auxiliary, DAV, VFW plus some radio/sewing magazines in
    hard copy--easier to refer to diagrams in some of them. (G)


    only magazines I get in hard copy are those I get as a gift
    subscription - Taste of Home, Consumer Reports, and Cooks Illustrated.
    Oh, and all the AARP glurge. But that will fall away as I am not
    renewing my membership when it comes due.

    We tried AARP back in 2008 but didn't agree with what they were pushing
    so dropped them, no tears shed.


    Title: Old Fashioned Gooseberry Pie
    Categories: Pastry, Fruits, Pies, Citrus
    Yield: 6 Servings

    I don't know if I've ever had a gooseberry, tho have seen many
    references to them. Are they more like a berry or a grape in taste, appearance, etc?

    Ask around at your farmer's market. Gooseberries are nutritious, low- calorie fruits that are rich in vitamins, minerals, and antioxidants. These berries may have health benefits that include lower blood sugar, cholesterol and blood pressure.

    OK, I'll check around. We're hitting the road soon for a couple of weeks
    so it may be put on hold for a bit. Got to start thinking about camper
    cooking, may pull some stuff from the freezer for "heat and eat" meals.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Wed May 1 05:45:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I'm loking for a friendly farmer with a wood lot where I can pick wild gooseberries and who won't fill my hindquarters with rock salt or bird

    Yes, small crop farmers are few and far between now. You might want to check the state's department of agriculture to see if they keep a
    listing and go from there.

    Better to ask around at the Farm & Home or implement dealer. Some

    Another good source of infomation, probably better than the state dept.
    of ag, actually.

    Especially localised iformation. I worked for the Illinos Department of Agriculture (ran their print shop) and they were more about the overall
    state thn local issues.

    years ago I helped a friend's father set up a small operation after he retired from his 9 to 5 at a local facroey. There was a 120 acre piece

    8<----- SHARTENED ----->8

    cleared over $35K the first year. And, as he remarked "It keeps me out
    of my wife's hair and out of the saloons."

    You can get some pretty good deals at auctions, close out, estate or
    yard sales. The other day we stopped at a yard sale as they were
    closing down; they had a coouple of long tables of free stuff, more on
    the ground underneath. If I'd not given up cake decorating, I could
    have gotten a good supply of pans, tips, etc but my wrists can't take
    it any more. Steve walked away with a small hand truck that has triple wheels for going up/down stairs easily. Not for large, heavy loads but it'll be good for boxes of radio stuff. Best price possible, too. (G)

    I bought a fold-up hand truck from Harbor Freight that will do up to (I
    think, IIRC) 200# It folds to about 30" X 36" X 4" and fits in the trunk
    of my car or behind the front seat of the Ranger (pickup) easilt. And it's handy plus easy to set up or take down. Here's a review of it (after the YouToob ads) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsv5vtiNaKI

    I am forever amazed at the number of young folks who have no idea
    about using lard in stad of Crisco or Mrs. Tucker's. Bv(=

    My mom always used lard for her pie crusts. It was always the pre packaged, snow white stuff but it was lard. The few times she didn't
    have it and used crisco, the crusts were like cardboard. OTOH, I'll use either lard if I have it, or a non hydrogenated shortening (Spectrum). Lard makes the tastier, flakier crust but the Spectrum is a decent back up.

    If I don't have lard I tend to use butter. Or schmaltz if I have some
    on hand. I can do a good "short" crust with Crisco or Mrs. Tucker's
    but it just isn't the same.

    I've used butter before when I've not had anything else. It works ok
    but I'll go with the Spectrum or lard as first choices. My MIL gave me
    a pie crust recipe that uses sour (vinegar) milk and Crisco--comes out pretty good but I try to avoid the Crisco. It would probably make a
    really flaky crust if I used the sour milk and lard. (G)

    The vinegar in milk is a well known fake-out for commercial buttermilk.
    AFAIK there is no easy work-around for *real* buttermilk (the leftovers
    from churning butter. They are very different from "cultured" buttermilk
    from down at the grocery store.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Homemade Buttermilk
    Categories: Five, Dairy
    Yield: 1 cup

    4 1/2 ts White vinegar or fresh lemon
    - juice
    1 c Milk

    Place the vinegar in a glass-measuring cup, and add
    enough milk to make 1 cup total liquid. Stir to combine
    and let stand for 10 to 15 minutes (The mixture will
    begin to curdle).

    Use as needed in a recipe, or cover and refrigerate
    until needed.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.foodnetwork.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed May 1 13:59:39 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Better to ask around at the Farm & Home or implement dealer. Some

    Another good source of infomation, probably better than the state dept.
    of ag, actually.

    Especially localised iformation. I worked for the Illinos Department
    of Agriculture (ran their print shop) and they were more about the
    overall state thn local issues.

    Guess they figured that local issues would bog them down too much.


    years ago I helped a friend's father set up a small operation after he retired from his 9 to 5 at a local facroey. There was a 120 acre piece

    8<----- SHARTENED ----->8

    cleared over $35K the first year. And, as he remarked "It keeps me out
    of my wife's hair and out of the saloons."

    You can get some pretty good deals at auctions, close out, estate or
    yard sales. The other day we stopped at a yard sale as they were
    closing down; they had a coouple of long tables of free stuff, more on
    the ground underneath. If I'd not given up cake decorating, I could
    have gotten a good supply of pans, tips, etc but my wrists can't take
    it any more. Steve walked away with a small hand truck that has triple wheels for going up/down stairs easily. Not for large, heavy loads but it'll be good for boxes of radio stuff. Best price possible, too. (G)

    I bought a fold-up hand truck from Harbor Freight that will do up to
    (I think, IIRC) 200# It folds to about 30" X 36" X 4" and fits in the trunk of my car or behind the front seat of the Ranger (pickup)
    easilt. And it's handy plus easy to set up or take down. Here's a
    review of it (after the YouToob ads) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsv5vtiNaKI

    This one folds into about 15"x15"x6" (rough guessing), not for heavy
    duty stuff but better than hand carrying. When needed, we have access to
    a neighbor's heavy duty one.

    I am forever amazed at the number of young folks who have no idea
    about using lard in stad of Crisco or Mrs. Tucker's. Bv(=

    My mom always used lard for her pie crusts. It was always the pre packaged, snow white stuff but it was lard. The few times she didn't
    have it and used crisco, the crusts were like cardboard. OTOH, I'll use either lard if I have it, or a non hydrogenated shortening (Spectrum). Lard makes the tastier, flakier crust but the Spectrum is a decent back up.

    If I don't have lard I tend to use butter. Or schmaltz if I have some
    on hand. I can do a good "short" crust with Crisco or Mrs. Tucker's
    but it just isn't the same.

    I've used butter before when I've not had anything else. It works ok
    but I'll go with the Spectrum or lard as first choices. My MIL gave me
    a pie crust recipe that uses sour (vinegar) milk and Crisco--comes out pretty good but I try to avoid the Crisco. It would probably make a
    really flaky crust if I used the sour milk and lard. (G)

    The vinegar in milk is a well known fake-out for commercial
    buttermilk. AFAIK there is no easy work-around for *real* buttermilk
    (the leftovers from churning butter. They are very different from "cultured" buttermilk from down at the grocery store.

    Yes, before Steve went into the Army, we'd get our (raw) milk from a
    local farmer, gallon glass jars. I'd let it sit a day or so in the
    fridge, then skim the cream and use it for making butter, ice cream,
    etc. The buttermilk was used in baking--combination of that and lard
    (from the hog we'd bought) made the best biscuit, pie crusts, etc you
    ever tasted.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri May 3 05:42:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Better to ask around at the Farm & Home or implement dealer. Some

    Another good source of infomation, probably better than the state dept.
    of ag, actually.

    Especially localised iformation. I worked for the Illinos Department
    of Agriculture (ran their print shop) and they were more about the
    overall state thn local issues.

    Guess they figured that local issues would bog them down too much.

    Not necessdarily, just that the state Department of Agriculture is tasked
    with responsibility for the entire state all 102 counties. Too many localised tasks would bog them down and

    8<----- SHARTENED ----->8

    You can get some pretty good deals at auctions, close out, estate or
    yard sales. The other day we stopped at a yard sale as they were
    closing down; they had a coouple of long tables of free stuff, more on
    the ground underneath. If I'd not given up cake decorating, I could
    have gotten a good supply of pans, tips, etc but my wrists can't take
    it any more. Steve walked away with a small hand truck that has triple wheels for going up/down stairs easily. Not for large, heavy loads but it'll be good for boxes of radio stuff. Best price possible, too. (G)

    I bought a fold-up hand truck from Harbor Freight that will do up to
    (I think, IIRC) 200# It folds to about 30" X 36" X 4" and fits in the trunk of my car or behind the front seat of the Ranger (pickup)
    easilt. And it's handy plus easy to set up or take down. Here's a
    review of it (after the YouToob ads) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsv5vtiNaKI

    This one folds into about 15"x15"x6" (rough guessing), not for heavy
    duty stuff but better than hand carrying. When needed, we have access
    to a neighbor's heavy duty one.MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm)
    8.06

    Title: Milk Pork
    Categories: Pork, Dairy
    Yield: 6 Servings

    3 lb (1.5 kg) boned pork roast
    6 cl Garlic; peeled, in slivers
    Salt & pepper
    2 tb Butter
    1 lg Onion; halved
    1 lg Carrot; halved
    2 lg Rosemary branches
    2 Bay leaves
    4 c Whole milk
    Generous handful chopped
    - fresh chives and/or
    - parsley; for garnish

    Make small slits all over the meat with a sharp knife,
    inserting a sliver of garlic into each as you go. (If
    you can do this several hours or the night before
    cooking, all the better.) Rub the meat all over with
    salt and pepper. Heat the oven to 325ºF/160ºC.

    Melt the butter in a deep, lidded casserole (cocotte),
    and brown the meat well on all sides. Add the onion,
    carrot, and herbs to the pot. Pour over the milk, and
    bring to a simmer on the stovetop. Cover the dish and
    transfer to the oven until tender, about 2 hours,
    turning the meat at least once.

    Remove the meat from the pot and wrap in foil to keep
    warm. Remove the herbs, carrot, and onion and discard.
    The cooking juices will be curdled - ugly - but this is
    how they're meant to be. Boil them down to about a
    cup/250 ml and purée with an immersion blender. Taste
    and adjust the seasonings.

    Carve the meat and arrange in a serving dish. Pour over
    the sauce, sprinkle with the chives and/or parsley.

    Serve.

    http://www.foodtv.ca

    Yield: 6 servings

    Meal Master Format by Dave Drum - 07 June 2008

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM


    I've also got a "standard" hand truck as well as one that will (and has
    done) move a refrigerator.

    I am forever amazed at the number of young folks who have no idea
    about using lard instead of Crisco or Mrs. Tucker's. Bv(=

    My mom always used lard for her pie crusts. It was always the pre packaged, snow white stuff but it was lard. The few times she didn't
    have it and used crisco, the crusts were like cardboard. OTOH, I'll use either lard if I have it, or a non hydrogenated shortening (Spectrum). Lard makes the tastier, flakier crust but the Spectrum is a decent back up.

    If I don't have lard I tend to use butter. Or schmaltz if I have some
    on hand. I can do a good "short" crust with Crisco or Mrs. Tucker's
    but it just isn't the same.

    I've used butter before when I've not had anything else. It works ok
    but I'll go with the Spectrum or lard as first choices. My MIL gave me
    a pie crust recipe that uses sour (vinegar) milk and Crisco--comes out pretty good but I try to avoid the Crisco. It would probably make a
    really flaky crust if I used the sour milk and lard. (G)

    The vinegar in milk is a well known fake-out for commercial
    buttermilk. AFAIK there is no easy work-around for *real* buttermilk
    (the leftovers from churning butter. They are very different from "cultured" buttermilk from down at the grocery store.

    Yes, before Steve went into the Army, we'd get our (raw) milk from a
    local farmer, gallon glass jars. I'd let it sit a day or so in the
    fridge, then skim the cream and use it for making butter, ice cream,
    etc. The buttermilk was used in baking--combination of that and lard
    (from the hog we'd bought) made the best biscuit, pie crusts, etc you
    ever tasted.

    As I grew up both "in town" and "on the farm" I know the words to that
    song. I was tasked with running (hand cranking) the cream separator and,
    if I forgot to make myself scarce, churning the butter. And when there
    was a dairy operation running, trundling the galvanised 5 gallon milk containers from the brn to the road for pick up by the dairy. Then the
    reverse trip with the emptied cans to be cleaned thoroughly by guess who?


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri May 3 11:34:44 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Especially localised iformation. I worked for the Illinos Department
    of Agriculture (ran their print shop) and they were more about the
    overall state thn local issues.

    Guess they figured that local issues would bog them down too much.

    Not necessdarily, just that the state Department of Agriculture is
    tasked with responsibility for the entire state all 102 counties. Too
    many localised tasks would bog them down and

    ..........cost way too much to print.


    8<----- SHARTENED ----->8

    You can get some pretty good deals at auctions, close out, estate or
    yard sales. The other day we stopped at a yard sale as they were
    it'll be good for boxes of radio stuff. Best price possible, too. (G)

    I bought a fold-up hand truck from Harbor Freight that will do up to
    (I think, IIRC) 200# It folds to about 30" X 36" X 4" and fits in the trunk of my car or behind the front seat of the Ranger (pickup)
    easilt. And it's handy plus easy to set up or take down. Here's a
    review of it (after the YouToob ads) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsv5vtiNaKI

    This one folds into about 15"x15"x6" (rough guessing), not for heavy
    duty stuff but better than hand carrying. When needed, we have access
    to a neighbor's heavy duty one.MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm)
    8.06

    Title: Milk Pork
    Categories: Pork, Dairy
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Hmmmmmm, have to keep that in mind as we've got a pork roast in the
    freezer.

    The vinegar in milk is a well known fake-out for commercial
    buttermilk. AFAIK there is no easy work-around for *real* buttermilk
    (the leftovers from churning butter. They are very different from "cultured" buttermilk from down at the grocery store.

    Yes, before Steve went into the Army, we'd get our (raw) milk from a
    local farmer, gallon glass jars. I'd let it sit a day or so in the
    fridge, then skim the cream and use it for making butter, ice cream,
    etc. The buttermilk was used in baking--combination of that and lard
    (from the hog we'd bought) made the best biscuit, pie crusts, etc you
    ever tasted.

    As I grew up both "in town" and "on the farm" I know the words to that song. I was tasked with running (hand cranking) the cream separator
    and, if I forgot to make myself scarce, churning the butter. And when there
    was a dairy operation running, trundling the galvanised 5 gallon milk

    I never lived on a farm, visited them off and on over the years.

    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Junk: stuff we throw away. Stuff: junk we keep.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri May 3 11:37:38 2024
    Hi Dave,

    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<

    containers from the brn to the road for pick up by the dairy. Then the reverse trip with the emptied cans to be cleaned thoroughly by guess
    who?

    IOW, earning your keep. (G)


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... I am NOT burned out - just singed a little!

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Sun May 5 05:31:41 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Especially localised iformation. I worked for the Illinos Department
    of Agriculture (ran their print shop) and they were more about the
    overall state thn local issues.

    Guess they figured that local issues would bog them down too much.

    Not necessdarily, just that the state Department of Agriculture is
    tasked with responsibility for the entire state all 102 counties.
    Too many localised tasks would bog them down and

    ..........cost way too much to print.

    Actually the print shop only printed two items for public consumption.
    The weekly (every Friday) Market Report which was an 8 page newsletter.
    We got the last of the information by noon, set the type, printed, bound
    and addressed 5000 copies and bundled them for the daily mail run from
    Central Management Services by 15:30. Since we skiped lunch that day we
    took our lunch break after the mail run and didn't come back until the
    next work day - which was Monday. And we also printed the Department's
    Annual Report. Other than that it was letterheads, envelopes and forms.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Farmer's Market Cobbler
    Categories: Pies, Pastry, Fruits
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1/2 c Butter
    3/4 c Flour
    1 1/2 c Sugar; divided use
    1 ts (heaping) baking powder
    1/2 ts Salt
    2/3 c Milk
    1 qt Fruit; blueberries, peaches,
    - apricots, blackberries,
    - pears or apples

    Set oven @ 400øF/205øC.

    Melt the butter in a 2 quart baking dish.

    Combine the dry ingredients, reserving 1/2 cup sugar. Stir
    into melted butter in the baking dish. Add the milk and
    stir again.

    Bring the fruit and 1/2 cup of sugar to a boil. As soon as
    it boils, remove from the heat and pour over the batter.
    Don't stir.

    Bake at 400øF/205øC for 30 minutes.

    Servings: 8 (six at UUD's house)

    Source: Fort Worth Star Telegram; July 26, 1995

    From: http://www.recipelink.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Sun May 5 05:49:13 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Hi Dave,

    containers from the brn to the road for pick up by the dairy. Then the reverse trip with the emptied cans to be cleaned thoroughly by guess
    who?

    IOW, earning your keep. (G)

    Always plenty of fun for the whole family (work) on a farm. I only
    mamaged to "Tom Sawyer" the milk duties once wit each of my siblings.
    After that they wised up util they were old enough to be assigned to
    their own chores. Georgia to kitchen stuff andf Phil to feeding cattle
    and cleaning stalls in the barn.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Bauernfruhstuck (Farmer's Breakfast)
    Categories: Pork, Eggs, Vegetables, Potatoes, Dairy
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 md Potatoes
    4 sl Bacon; diced
    3 lg Eggs
    3 tb Milk
    1/2 ts Salt
    1 c Ham; in small cubes
    2 md Tomatoes; Peeled
    1 tb Chives; Chopped

    Boil unpeeled potatoes 30 minutes. Rinse under cold
    water, peel and set aside to cool. Slice potatoes. In a
    large fry-pan cook bacon until transparent.

    Add the potato slices; cook until lightly browned. Blend
    eggs with milk and salt. Stir in the diced ham. Cut the
    tomatoes into thin wedges; add to the egg mixture. Pour
    the egg mixture over the potatoes in the fry-pan.

    Cook until the eggs are set. Sprinkle w/chopped chives
    and serve at once.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun May 5 17:37:19 2024
    Hi Dave,

    of Agriculture (ran their print shop) and they were more about the
    overall state thn local issues.

    Guess they figured that local issues would bog them down too much.

    Not necessdarily, just that the state Department of Agriculture is
    tasked with responsibility for the entire state all 102 counties.
    Too many localised tasks would bog them down and

    ..........cost way too much to print.

    Actually the print shop only printed two items for public consumption.
    The weekly (every Friday) Market Report which was an 8 page
    newsletter. We got the last of the information by noon, set the type,
    we took our lunch break after the mail run and didn't come back until
    the
    next work day - which was Monday. And we also printed the Department's Annual Report. Other than that it was letterheads, envelopes and
    forms.

    Sounds like what my dad used to call "job printing". The newspaper was
    printed weekly, plus they did other small jobs for businesses or
    individuals. They kept a couple of albums of "fancy" jobs (wedding
    invitations and other things on that line) that people could order thru
    them also.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Farmer's Market Cobbler
    Categories: Pies, Pastry, Fruits
    Yield: 6 Servings

    It's getting to be that season. Steve brought home another basket of strawberries from the local market yesterday.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Get shopping while the gettin' is good!!!

    --- PPoint 3.01
    * Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)
  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun May 5 17:42:38 2024
    Hi Dave,

    containers from the brn to the road for pick up by the dairy. Then the reverse trip with the emptied cans to be cleaned thoroughly by guess
    who?

    IOW, earning your keep. (G)

    Always plenty of fun for the whole family (work) on a farm. I only

    Very true, a farm raised kid knew how to work and just as importantly,
    do a good job of whatever the task was.


    mamaged to "Tom Sawyer" the milk duties once wit each of my siblings. After that they wised up util they were old enough to be assigned to
    their own chores. Georgia to kitchen stuff andf Phil to feeding cattle
    and cleaning stalls in the barn.

    We all had certain jobs, girls more inside, boys outside. It was always
    a treat when I got to break from the inside jobs and do something like
    burn the trash, a job usually reserved for my older brother. Summertime
    meant helping mom prep veggies for canning--tho I never went beyond that
    at home, I picked up enough of a knowledge of it that I've done well in
    my canning over the years.


    Title: Bauernfruhstuck (Farmer's Breakfast)
    Categories: Pork, Eggs, Vegetables, Potatoes, Dairy
    Yield: 4 Servings

    We've done a varient on this over the years, had the original at
    WienerWald in Germany a number of times.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... You learn something useless every day.

    --- PPoint 3.01
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Tue May 7 06:03:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Hi Dave,

    Actually the print shop only printed two items for public consumption.
    The weekly (every Friday) Market Report which was an 8 page
    newsletter. We got the last of the information by noon, set the type,
    we took our lunch break after the mail run and didn't come back until
    next work day - which was Monday. And we also printed the Department's Annual Report. Other than that it was letterheads, envelopes and
    forms.

    Sounds like what my dad used to call "job printing". The newspaper was printed weekly, plus they did other small jobs for businesses or individuals. They kept a couple of albums of "fancy" jobs (wedding invitations and other things on that line) that people could order thru them also.

    When I was doing weakly (misspelling intentional) newspapers the "job
    shop" actually made more $$$ than the newspaper(s). Even with 5 editions
    there just wasn't enough advertising or circulation revenue to provide
    a living for the staff. So, business cards, letterheads, envelopes, forms, short-run cook books, etc. kept us afloat.

    With the advent of the internet small town papers are disappearing at
    an alarming rate.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Farmer's Market Cobbler
    Categories: Pies, Pastry, Fruits
    Yield: 6 Servings

    It's getting to be that season. Steve brought home another basket of strawberries from the local market yesterday.

    This morning's e-edition of the local ird cae liner had a listing of
    near-by farmer's markets with times/dates and locations. And I noticed
    that my favourite farmstand - Suttill's - was advertising strawberries
    on their road sign w/a promise of "Asparagus next week". Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Mustard Sauced Asparagus w/Chopped Egg
    Categories: Dairy, Vegetables, Herbs
    Yield: 2 Servings

    1/2 lb Asparagus spears
    1/4 c Yogurt
    1 1/2 ts Minced fresh dillweed
    1 1/2 ts Minced fresh chives
    2 ts Dijon mustard
    1/8 ts Salt
    1/8 ts Pepper
    1 Hard cooked egg; chopped

    Snap off tough ends of asparagus; remove scales with a
    knife or vegetable peeler, if desired. Steam asparagus,
    covered, 5 minutes or until crisp tender. Rinse under
    cold water; drain and chill.

    Combine yogurt, dillweed, chives, mustard, salt and
    pepper in a bowl; stir well. Divide the asparagus
    evenly between two salad plates; top each with 2
    tablespoons dressing and 1/2 of the chopped egg.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Tue May 7 06:07:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    containers from the brn to the road for pick up by the dairy. Then the reverse trip with the emptied cans to be cleaned thoroughly by guess
    who?

    IOW, earning your keep. (G)

    Always plenty of fun for the whole family (work) on a farm. I only

    Very true, a farm raised kid knew how to work and just as importantly,
    do a good job of whatever the task was.

    mamaged to "Tom Sawyer" the milk duties once wit each of my siblings. After that they wised up util they were old enough to be assigned to
    their own chores. Georgia to kitchen stuff andf Phil to feeding cattle
    and cleaning stalls in the barn.

    We all had certain jobs, girls more inside, boys outside. It was always
    a treat when I got to break from the inside jobs and do something like burn the trash, a job usually reserved for my older brother. Summertime meant helping mom prep veggies for canning--tho I never went beyond
    that at home, I picked up enough of a knowledge of it that I've done
    well in my canning over the years.

    I amaze younger people sometimes when I show them how to do something
    that was a regular "thing" when I was growing up. Or, as I did with a
    young girl at a fats food joint who gave me an "I don't kow hoe much
    change you get. The register didn't tell me." wail ... taught her how
    to count change back/make change from scratch. She was flabbergasted. Especially when I explained that I learned that in second grade. Many
    of today's Gen Z denizens will be in serious hurt without confusers and
    cell phones.

    Title: Bauernfruhstuck (Farmer's Breakfast)
    Categories: Pork, Eggs, Vegetables, Potatoes, Dairy
    Yield: 4 Servings

    We've done a varient on this over the years, had the original at WienerWald in Germany a number of times.

    Only Wienerwald I have had is the Wienerwald chicken that Lum's used to
    have on their menu - back when there was a Lum's and we had one here.
    In the 70's a Swiss chain called Wienerwald purchased Lum's. Wienerwald, confusingly to Americans, had nothing to do with weiners. It specialized
    in chicken and schnitzel.

    And their chicken was really good - especially as a break from fried
    chicken. I liked it well enough I got a more-or-less copycat recipe and
    with minor adaptations made it my own. This works in an oven or on a
    Ferris wheel (rotissiere).

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Wienerwald Chicken (Goldbroiler Recipe)
    Categories: Poultry, Rubs, Marinades, Citrus, Fruits
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 lb Broiler chicken

    MMMMM--------------------------MARINADE-------------------------------
    1/2 ts Salt
    1/4 ts Pepper
    1 tb Ground Hungarian paprika
    3 tb Lemon juice
    1/2 c Chopped parsley
    1 md Onion; chopped
    1 tb Oil

    MMMMM---------------------------SAUCE--------------------------------
    Oil
    1 lg Onion; peeled, sliced
    1 tb Ground Hungarian paprika
    1 c Apple juice
    1 c Roasted red peppers

    MMMMM-------------------------THICKENER------------------------------
    1 tb White vinegar
    1 c Milk
    1 tb Rice flour
    1 Apple; grated

    Here is a recipe for restaurant grilled chicken or
    "Broiler". Served with a sweet sour, paprika flavored sauce,
    this grilled or fried chicken is a German oldie but goody.

    Plan for time to marinate meat (up to 24 hours) or make
    sauce separately in 25 minutes.

    Mix the marinade ingredients and brush or pat them on the
    chicken. Place the chicken in a large bowl or plastic bag,
    cover and refrigerate between 2 hours to overnight.

    Shake off excess marinade from chicken. Put chicken on a
    spit over a heat source.

    Make the basting sauce by placing oil and onion in a blender
    and whirling into a paste. Add apple juice, paprika and
    roasted peppers. Blend until smooth and free from lumps.
    You should have a thick sauce

    Baste the cooking chicken with this sauce several times as
    it cooks.

    Meanwhile, mix the milk with vinegar and let stand for 5
    minutes.

    Make a smooth paste with the flour and a little of the milk.

    Stir the flour paste into the drippings from the catch pan
    below the roaster/broiler and the leftover basting sauce.

    Mix the sour milk into the sauce, add the grated apple and
    bring to a boil.

    Serve with the chicken.

    Makes 4 servings.

    Recipe from: https://eezyrecipes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed May 8 19:19:38 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Actually the print shop only printed two items for public consumption.
    The weekly (every Friday) Market Report which was an 8 page

    Sounds like what my dad used to call "job printing". The newspaper was printed weekly, plus they did other small jobs for businesses or individuals. They kept a couple of albums of "fancy" jobs (wedding

    When I was doing weakly (misspelling intentional) newspapers the "job shop" actually made more $$$ than the newspaper(s). Even with 5
    editions there just wasn't enough advertising or circulation revenue
    to provide
    a living for the staff. So, business cards, letterheads, envelopes,
    forms, short-run cook books, etc. kept us afloat.

    Anything to keep the presses running. The CMN (Catskill Mountain News)
    had several job presses in addition to the big press for the paper.


    With the advent of the internet small town papers are disappearing at
    an alarming rate.

    I know, the CMN died last year. The owner that bought it back in the
    early 1900s hired dad in the early 50s, made him editor in the early
    60s. Dad had a disagreement with his son (who didn't know how to run a
    paper so was trying to tell dad the wrong way to do things) in the early 80s--dad said "I quit" just before the son (who, by now was boss) said
    "you're fired". Whole town backed dad but he never went back to them.


    Title: Farmer's Market Cobbler
    Categories: Pies, Pastry, Fruits
    Yield: 6 Servings

    It's getting to be that season. Steve brought home another basket of strawberries from the local market yesterday.

    This morning's e-edition of the local ird cae liner had a listing of near-by farmer's markets with times/dates and locations. And I noticed that my favourite farmstand - Suttill's - was advertising strawberries
    on their road sign w/a promise of "Asparagus next week". Bv)=

    Asparagus sounds good. Best I ever had was in Germany, white asparagus
    lightly blanched, then soaked in a light lemon vinegarette.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... ... Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans-J. Lennon

    --- PPoint 3.01
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed May 8 19:27:37 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Very true, a farm raised kid knew how to work and just as importantly,
    do a good job of whatever the task was.

    mamaged to "Tom Sawyer" the milk duties once wit each of my siblings. After that they wised up util they were old enough to be assigned to
    their own chores. Georgia to kitchen stuff andf Phil to feeding cattle
    and cleaning stalls in the barn.

    We all had certain jobs, girls more inside, boys outside. It was always
    a treat when I got to break from the inside jobs and do something like burn the trash, a job usually reserved for my older brother. Summertime meant helping mom prep veggies for canning--tho I never went beyond
    that at home, I picked up enough of a knowledge of it that I've done
    well in my canning over the years.

    I amaze younger people sometimes when I show them how to do something
    that was a regular "thing" when I was growing up. Or, as I did with a young girl at a fats food joint who gave me an "I don't kow hoe much change you get. The register didn't tell me." wail ... taught her how
    to count change back/make change from scratch. She was flabbergasted. Especially when I explained that I learned that in second grade. Many
    of today's Gen Z denizens will be in serious hurt without confusers
    and cell phones.

    We learned early on in school too. Now so many younger people don't even
    use cash (and a good number of older folks) that it's a wonder clerks
    can even run a register. They need to know how many nickels in a dime or quarter; dimes in a dollar and so on without relying on a machine to
    tell them.

    We've done a varient on this over the years, had the original at WienerWald in Germany a number of times.

    Only Wienerwald I have had is the Wienerwald chicken that Lum's used
    to have on their menu - back when there was a Lum's and we had one
    here.
    In the 70's a Swiss chain called Wienerwald purchased Lum's.
    Wienerwald, confusingly to Americans, had nothing to do with weiners.
    It specialized in chicken and schnitzel.

    Sounds like what we had in Germany, don't remember if it was Swiss owned
    at the time.

    And their chicken was really good - especially as a break from fried chicken. I liked it well enough I got a more-or-less copycat recipe
    and with minor adaptations made it my own. This works in an oven or on
    a
    Ferris wheel (rotissiere).


    Title: Wienerwald Chicken (Goldbroiler Recipe)
    Categories: Poultry, Rubs, Marinades, Citrus, Fruits
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 lb Broiler chicken

    Good thing I've already had supper, this looks good enough to try on a
    camping trip.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Get shopping while the gettin' is good!!!

    --- PPoint 3.01
    * Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)
  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri May 10 05:35:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I amaze younger people sometimes when I show them how to do something
    that was a regular "thing" when I was growing up. Or, as I did with a young girl at a fats food joint who gave me an "I don't kow hoe much change you get. The register didn't tell me." wail ... taught her how
    to count change back/make change from scratch. She was flabbergasted. Especially when I explained that I learned that in second grade. Many
    of today's Gen Z denizens will be in serious hurt without confusers
    and cell phones.

    We learned early on in school too. Now so many younger people don't
    even use cash (and a good number of older folks) that it's a wonder
    clerks can even run a register. They need to know how many nickels in a dime or quarter; dimes in a dollar and so on without relying on a
    machine to tell them.

    Confusers and cell phones are handy aids to have. But, they don't relieve
    us of the need to "use your loaf" (think).

    We've done a varient on this over the years, had the original at WienerWald in Germany a number of times.

    Only Wienerwald I have had is the Wienerwald chicken that Lum's used
    to have on their menu - back when there was a Lum's and we had one.
    In the 70's a Swiss chain called Wienerwald purchased Lum's.
    Wienerwald, confusingly to Americans, had nothing to do with weiners.
    It specialized in chicken and schnitzel.

    Sounds like what we had in Germany, don't remember if it was Swiss
    owned at the time.

    And their chicken was really good - especially as a break from fried chicken. I liked it well enough I got a more-or-less copycat recipe
    and with minor adaptations made it my own. This works in an oven or on
    a Ferris wheel (rotissiere).

    Title: Wienerwald Chicken (Goldbroiler Recipe)
    Categories: Poultry, Rubs, Marinades, Citrus, Fruits
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 lb Broiler chicken

    Good thing I've already had supper, this looks good enough to try on a camping trip.

    I prefer the rotissiere - but if you've got the stuff/room in your RV.
    go for it. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Sticky Coconut Chicken & Rice
    Categories: Poultry, Rice, Herbs, Vegetables, Nuts
    Yield: 4 servings

    1 1/2 lb Boned, skinned thighs; each
    - thigh cut in 2 equal-size
    - pieces
    1/4 c Neutral oil
    2 ts Kosher salt
    1/2 ts Black pepper
    2 tb Minced fresh ginger
    1 tb Minced garlic
    1 1/2 c Short-grain white rice;
    - rinsed until water runs
    - clear
    1 3/4 c Chicken broth
    13 1/3 oz Can full-fat coconut milk
    1 Yellow bell pepper; cored,
    - seeded, chopped in 1/2"
    - pieces
    1/2 c Roasted cashews; coarse
    - chopped
    3 Scallions; green/white parts
    - thin sliced
    2 tb Coarse chopped cilantro
    Hot sauce; to serve

    Set oven @ 375ºF/190ºC.

    Rub chicken with 1 tablespoon of oil, and season with 1
    teaspoon of salt and 1/4 teaspoon of pepper.

    In a large Dutch oven, heat 2 tablespoons of the oil
    over medium. Working in two batches, brown chicken,
    turning halfway, until no longer pink, around 5 minutes
    per batch. Transfer to a plate.

    Add the remaining 1 tablespoon oil, the ginger and the
    garlic to the empty pot, and stir until fragrant, 30
    seconds. Add rice and stir until evenly coated in the
    oil. Add broth, coconut milk, bell pepper, cashews,
    scallions and the remaining 1 teaspoon salt and 1/4
    teaspoon pepper. Stir to lift up any browned bits on the
    bottom of the pot. Arrange chicken on top, add any
    accumulated juices from the plate and bring to a boil
    over high.

    Cover and bake until all of the liquid is absorbed, rice
    is tender and chicken is cooked through, 25 minutes.
    Scatter cilantro over the chicken and rice, then divide
    among bowls. Serve with hot sauce.

    UDD NOTES: I cut the cilantro by half which allows the
    desired flavour without the "soapweed" effect. I also
    mash the ginger & garlic together in a mortar & pestle
    and add crushed red chile to zip things up a bit. Side
    with steamed broccoli or "stir fry" mixed vegetables.

    By: Kay Chun

    Yield: 4 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri May 10 06:37:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    When I was doing weakly (misspelling intentional) newspapers the "job shop" actually made more $$$ than the newspaper(s). Even with 5
    editions there just wasn't enough advertising or circulation revenue
    to provide a living for the staff. So, business cards, letterheads, envelopes, forms, short-run cook books, etc. kept us afloat.

    Anything to keep the presses running. The CMN (Catskill Mountain News)
    had several job presses in addition to the big press for the paper.

    The Herald papers sold off all of the "hot metal" printing equipment
    the Linotype went to another small town paper, the hand-set type went
    to a recycler and the type cases and drawers wound up with various
    antique dealers. We kept one small Kluge letterpress w/automatic feed capability as a numbering station for forms, etc. in the job shop.

    All type was set on a photo-setter and the newspaper(s) got printed at
    a "job" web press in another town.

    With the advent of the internet small town papers are disappearing at
    an alarming rate.

    I know, the CMN died last year. The owner that bought it back in the
    early 1900s hired dad in the early 50s, made him editor in the early
    60s. Dad had a disagreement with his son (who didn't know how to run a paper so was trying to tell dad the wrong way to do things) in the
    early 80s--dad said "I quit" just before the son (who, by now was boss) said "you're fired". Whole town backed dad but he never went back to
    them.

    I've told more than one clueless employer about placing his job where
    the sun never shines. Bv)= Mostly bosses who think they are royalty
    rather than executives. So, I voted with my feet. Bv)=

    Title: Farmer's Market Cobbler
    Categories: Pies, Pastry, Fruits
    Yield: 6 Servings

    It's getting to be that season. Steve brought home another basket of strawberries from the local market yesterday.

    This morning's e-edition of the local bird cage liner had a listing of near-by farmer's markets with times/dates and locations. And I noticed that my favourite farmstand - Suttill's - was advertising strawberries
    on their road sign w/a promise of "Asparagus next week". Bv)=

    Asparagus sounds good. Best I ever had was in Germany, white asparagus lightly blanched, then soaked in a light lemon vinegarette.

    My favourite way to eat aspapragus in freshly picked - right in the
    patch. Never did nor cooked/eaten white asparagus. I know how to get
    it to be white ... by keeping it in the dark. But, that's more hassle
    than I care to exert for a "special effect".

    Depending on the length of the asparagus stalks I'll use with my Mary
    Dunbar 3 qt. steamer (looks like a double boiler) or my "As Seen On TV"
    bamboo steamer to make this recipe:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Asparagus Hollandaise
    Categories: Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 4 servings

    2 bn Asparagus (about 1 lb)

    MMMMM------------------------HOLLANDAISE-----------------------------
    3/4 c Butter; melted
    3 lg Egg yolks
    2 tb White wine
    1 tb Dijon mustard
    1/4 ts Salt
    3 Drops hot sauce; to taste
    Juice & zest of 1 lemon

    Bring a small pot of water several inches deep to a slow
    simmer over a low heat. Fashion a double boiler by
    placing a glass or metal bowl over * not in * the pot of
    simmering water. In the bowl, off the heat whisk the egg
    yolks, wine, mustard, lemon juice, and hot sauce until
    light and frothy.

    Place the bowl over the barely simmering water and
    continue whisking until the mixture thickens and more
    than doubles in volume, about 4 or 5 minutes. Remove the
    bowl from the heat and whisk for a few moments. Slowly
    begin adding the melted butter in a steady stream,
    whisking continuously.

    Once all the butter has been incorporated, slowly whisk
    in the lemon juice. If you feel the sauce is a bit too
    thick feel free to slowly whisk in a few drops of warm
    water.

    Serve immediately or keep warm for a few minutes by
    covering it and placing it over the warm water, leaving
    the heat turned off beneath the water.

    Build a steamer with two pots nested together over
    medium high heat and steam the asparagus spears until
    bright green and tender, 5 minutes or so. Plate, top
    with generous spoonfuls of hollandaise and serve.

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.foodnetwork.ca

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun May 12 15:02:41 2024
    Hi Dave,


    We learned early on in school too. Now so many younger people don't
    even use cash (and a good number of older folks) that it's a wonder
    clerks can even run a register. They need to know how many nickels in a

    Confusers and cell phones are handy aids to have. But, they don't
    relieve us of the need to "use your loaf" (think).

    True, and not just for figuring out strategy on the latest computer
    "shoot 'em up" game. (G)


    We've done a varient on this over the years, had the original at WienerWald in Germany a number of times.

    Only Wienerwald I have had is the Wienerwald chicken that Lum's used
    to have on their menu - back when there was a Lum's and we had one.
    In the 70's a Swiss chain called Wienerwald purchased Lum's.
    Wienerwald, confusingly to Americans, had nothing to do with weiners.
    It specialized in chicken and schnitzel.

    Sounds like what we had in Germany, don't remember if it was Swiss
    owned at the time.

    And their chicken was really good - especially as a break from fried chicken. I liked it well enough I got a more-or-less copycat recipe
    and with minor adaptations made it my own. This works in an oven or on
    a Ferris wheel (rotissiere).

    We have a rotissiere attachment for one of our grills so will do chicken
    on that every so often. There's a whole one in the freezer awaiting that treatment, have to decide what seasoning to use this time. (G)

    Title: Wienerwald Chicken (Goldbroiler Recipe) DD>
    Categories: Poultry, Rubs, Marinades, Citrus, Fruits DD> Yield: 4
    Servings

    4 lb Broiler chicken

    Good thing I've already had supper, this looks good enough to try on a camping trip.

    I prefer the rotissiere - but if you've got the stuff/room in your RV.
    go for it. Bv)=

    Main meals are furnished as part of the rally for the next few days.
    After the rally we're going to stop at the Creation Museum and then head
    home. RV has to go into the shop for a bit, hopefully work will be
    finishe before our next trip.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun May 12 15:10:24 2024
    Hi Dave,


    The Herald papers sold off all of the "hot metal" printing equipment
    the Linotype went to another small town paper, the hand-set type went
    to a recycler and the type cases and drawers wound up with various
    antique dealers. We kept one small Kluge letterpress w/automatic feed capability as a numbering station for forms, etc. in the job shop.

    And time marched on......


    All type was set on a photo-setter and the newspaper(s) got printed at
    a "job" web press in another town.

    CMN did that at one point, I think it was after I left home to go to
    college or got married. Don't recall exactly when as I wasn't around for
    the change over.

    With the advent of the internet small town papers are disappearing at
    an alarming rate.

    I know, the CMN died last year. The owner that bought it back in the
    early 1900s hired dad in the early 50s, made him editor in the early
    60s. Dad had a disagreement with his son (who didn't know how to run a paper so was trying to tell dad the wrong way to do things) in the
    early 80s--dad said "I quit" just before the son (who, by now was boss) said "you're fired". Whole town backed dad but he never went back to
    them.

    I've told more than one clueless employer about placing his job where
    the sun never shines. Bv)= Mostly bosses who think they are
    royalty rather than executives. So, I voted with my feet. Bv)=

    This guy didn't know how to put together a paper, even tho his father
    had done so for some 50 or 60 years. I couldn't count how many times he
    and my dad had verbal "rounds" over the years, yet he still didn't know
    how to put together a newspaper. Family had bought IBM stock in the
    early (pre IBM as such) days and made their fortune so this guy was not
    working on the paper for a living as all the employees were.

    Title: Farmer's Market Cobbler
    Categories: Pies, Pastry, Fruits
    Yield: 6 Servings

    It's getting to be that season. Steve brought home another basket of strawberries from the local market yesterday.

    This morning's e-edition of the local bird cage liner had a listing of near-by farmer's markets with times/dates and locations. And I noticed that my favourite farmstand - Suttill's - was advertising strawberries
    on their road sign w/a promise of "Asparagus next week". Bv)=

    Asparagus sounds good. Best I ever had was in Germany, white asparagus lightly blanched, then soaked in a light lemon vinegarette.

    My favourite way to eat aspapragus in freshly picked - right in the

    I don't have the luxury of having a patch so I'll get it at the farmer's market.


    patch. Never did nor cooked/eaten white asparagus. I know how to get
    it to be white ... by keeping it in the dark. But, that's more hassle
    than I care to exert for a "special effect".

    I'll let others do the work; I'll just enjoy the results. But, we don't
    hardly see the white asparagus over here, and if it's available, usually
    it's a premium price for less than stellar looking stalks.

    Depending on the length of the asparagus stalks I'll use with my Mary Dunbar 3 qt. steamer (looks like a double boiler) or my "As Seen On
    TV" bamboo steamer to make this recipe:


    Title: Asparagus Hollandaise
    Categories: Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 4 servings

    I've got various ways to steam it but have never tried making the
    hollandaise sauce. I'd rather have a light sauce that doesn't detract
    from the taste of the greens.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Mon May 13 18:04:02 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    We learned early on in school too. Now so many younger people don't
    even use cash (and a good number of older folks) that it's a wonder
    clerks can even run a register. They need to know how many nickels in a

    Confusers and cell phones are handy aids to have. But, they don't
    relieve us of the need to "use your loaf" (think).

    True, and not just for figuring out strategy on the latest computer
    "shoot 'em up" game. (G)

    8<----- Verbosity Deleted ---->8

    And their chicken was really good - especially as a break from fried chicken. I liked it well enough I got a more-or-less copycat recipe
    and with minor adaptations made it my own. This works in an oven or on
    a Ferris wheel (rotissiere).

    We have a rotissiere attachment for one of our grills so will do
    chicken on that every so often. There's a whole one in the freezer awaiting that treatment, have to decide what seasoning to use this
    time. (G)

    I really liked my Farberware Ferris Wheel - did chickens, roasts and
    other things on it. One time I had a nice fat hen riding the ferris
    wheel and my girl friend started to put paper towels in the drip tray.

    When I asked she said "Make it easier to clean up." I told her "That's
    why I do the cooking and you do te dishes. The drippings are the base
    for the gravy."

    Title: Wienerwald Chicken (Goldbroiler Recipe) DD>
    Categories: Poultry, Rubs, Marinades, Citrus, Fruits DD> Yield:
    4
    Servings

    4 lb Broiler chicken

    Good thing I've already had supper, this looks good enough to try on a camping trip.

    I prefer the rotissiere - but if you've got the stuff/room in your RV.
    go for it. Bv)=

    Main meals are furnished as part of the rally for the next few days.
    After the rally we're going to stop at the Creation Museum and then
    head home. RV has to go into the shop for a bit, hopefully work will be finishe before our next trip.

    Nothing structural I hope. My brother offered my a Winnebago motor home
    he has sitting in his side yard. It's ben sitting for so long that all
    of the batteries will need replacing. And all six tires which are not
    only flat - but dry rotted. And I shudder to think of the condition of
    the belts and hoses in the engine bay. In this case - Free ... isn't.

    And that doesn't mean that the mice haven't been eating wires throughout
    the unit - not just on the engine.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Campfire Potatoes
    Categories: Potatoes, Vegetables, Cheese, Herbs
    Yield: 6 servings

    5 md Potatoes, peeled and thinly
    - sliced
    1 md Onion; sliced
    6 tb Butter
    1/3 c Shredded Cheddar cheese
    2 tb Minced fresh parsley
    1 tb Worcestershire sauce
    Salt & pepper
    1/4 c Chicken broth

    Place the potatoes and onion on a large piece of
    heavy-duty foil (about 20" X 20"); dot with butter.
    Combine the cheese, parsley, Worcestershire sauce, salt
    and pepper; sprinkle over potatoes.

    Fold foil up around potatoes and add broth. Seal the
    edges of foil well. Grill, covered, over medium heat for
    35-40 minutes or until potatoes are tender.

    JoAnn Dettbarn, Brainerd, Minnesota

    Makes: 6 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Mon May 13 18:35:37 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    The Herald papers sold off all of the "hot metal" printing equipment
    the Linotype went to another small town paper, the hand-set type went
    to a recycler and the type cases and drawers wound up with various
    antique dealers. We kept one small Kluge letterpress w/automatic feed capability as a numbering station for forms, etc. in the job shop.

    And time marched on......

    Used to march at a measured pace. Now it races ... the older I get the
    faster it seems to go.

    All type was set on a photo-setter and the newspaper(s) got printed at
    a "job" web press in another town.

    CMN did that at one point, I think it was after I left home to go to college or got married. Don't recall exactly when as I wasn't around
    for the change over.

    With the advent of the internet small town papers are disappearing at
    an alarming rate.

    I know, the CMN died last year. The owner that bought it back in the
    early 1900s hired dad in the early 50s, made him editor in the early
    60s. Dad had a disagreement with his son (who didn't know how to run a paper so was trying to tell dad the wrong way to do things) in the
    early 80s--dad said "I quit" just before the son (who, by now was boss) said "you're fired". Whole town backed dad but he never went back to
    them.

    I've told more than one clueless employer about placing his job where
    the sun never shines. Bv)= Mostly bosses who think they are
    royalty rather than executives. So, I voted with my feet. Bv)=

    This guy didn't know how to put together a paper, even tho his father
    had done so for some 50 or 60 years. I couldn't count how many times he and my dad had verbal "rounds" over the years, yet he still didn't know how to put together a newspaper. Family had bought IBM stock in the
    early (pre IBM as such) days and made their fortune so this guy was not working on the paper for a living as all the employees were.

    Just because you've got a pile of sheckels doesn't make you smart. But it might make you a politician where you can really do some damage.

    Title: Farmer's Market Cobbler
    Categories: Pies, Pastry, Fruits
    Yield: 6 Servings

    It's getting to be that season. Steve brought home another basket of strawberries from the local market yesterday.

    This morning's e-edition of the local bird cage liner had a listing of near-by farmer's markets with times/dates and locations. And I noticed that my favourite farmstand - Suttill's - was advertising strawberries
    on their road sign w/a promise of "Asparagus next week". Bv)=

    Asparagus sounds good. Best I ever had was in Germany, white asparagus lightly blanched, then soaked in a light lemon vinegarette.

    My favourite way to eat aspapragus in freshly picked - right in the

    I don't have the luxury of having a patch so I'll get it at the
    farmer's market.

    The tree guys came and removed thje evergreen hedge from the front of
    the house this morning. I'll be putting in a 30 by 4 by 2 feet tall
    raised be garden. It's a little late in the year for many things - but
    I can still do tomatoes, radishes, carrots and chilies. I'm debating
    with myself whether to rent a small Bobcat to dig a trench for asparagus
    roots. Or to hire it done. I'm certainly past the point of hand-digging
    the bed. I may talk to my friend Laszlo to see if his scout troupe would
    be interested in earning and learning. Bv)=

    patch. Never did nor cooked/eaten white asparagus. I know how to get
    it to be white ... by keeping it in the dark. But, that's more hassle
    than I care to exert for a "special effect".

    I'll let others do the work; I'll just enjoy the results. But, we don't hardly see the white asparagus over here, and if it's available,
    usually it's a premium price for less than stellar looking stalks.

    Is there any substantial difference in flavour of white and "normal"
    asparagus?

    Depending on the length of the asparagus stalks I'll use with my Mary Dunbar 3 qt. steamer (looks like a double boiler) or my "As Seen On
    TV" bamboo steamer to make this recipe:

    Title: Asparagus Hollandaise
    Categories: Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 4 servings

    I've got various ways to steam it but have never tried making the hollandaise sauce. I'd rather have a light sauce that doesn't detract
    from the taste of the greens.

    Hollandaise, at least the way I make it, enhances the flavour rather
    than overwhelms it. Certainly it's better than the stuff from the can
    of Golden Age (food service) sauce. Bv)=

    Here's another quick 'n' easy sauce that goes good with asparagus and
    many other things.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: 5 Minute Garlic Aioli
    Categories: Sauces, Dips, Citrus
    Yield: 4 servings

    1 lg Egg yolk
    1/4 c Extra virgin olive oil
    2 cl Garlic
    2 ts Fresh squeezed lemon juice
    1/4 ts Sea salt
    1/2 ts Dijon mustard

    Add the garlic, egg yolk, lemon juice, dijon mustard,
    and salt to a small food processor or use an immersion
    blender. Turn it on and slowly drizzle in the olive oil
    until emulsified. It should be thick and creamy.

    Taste and add more salt or lemon juice if desired. Blend
    in more oil if it's too thin or water if it's too thick.
    Transfer to a bowl and serve. Enjoy!

    Makes 1/3 cup.

    UDD NOTE: If this is too "garlicky" use roasted garlic
    to tone it down.

    RECIPE FROM: https://drivemehungry.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Dave Drum on Tue May 14 11:12:51 2024
    Re: Re: Round Tuits
    By: Dave Drum to Ruth Haffly on Mon May 13 2024 18:35:37

    UDD NOTE: If this is too "garlicky" use roasted garlic
    to tone it down.

    I see what you did there.
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ben Collver on Wed May 15 05:05:00 2024
    Ben Collver wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    UDD NOTE: If this is too "garlicky" use roasted garlic
    to tone it down.

    I see what you did there.

    In reference to what? I'm confoozled.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Roasted Garlic & Herb Shrimp w/Spaghetti
    Categories: Seafood, Pasta, Herbs, Sauces, Chilies
    Yield: 4 Servings

    2 tb Olive oil
    3 cl Garlic; crushed
    3 c Roasted garlic & herb
    - Italian sauce
    1/2 ts Crushed red pepper
    1 lb Medium shrimp; peeled,
    - deveined
    10 oz Pkg Pepperidge Farm garlic
    - bread
    16 oz Pkg spaghetti; cooked,
    - drained
    3 tb Minced fresh Italian parsley
    - rosemary or thyme, opt

    Set the oven @ 400oF/205oC for the bread.

    Heat the oil in a 12" skillet over medium heat. Add
    the garlic and cook until it's golden.

    Stir the sauce and red pepper in the skillet and heat
    to a boil. Reduce the heat to low. Add the shrimp and
    cook for 5 minutes or until they're cooked through.

    Meanwhile, bake the bread according to the package
    directions.

    Toss the spaghetti with the shrimp mixture. Sprinkle
    with the parsley. Cut the bread in 2" diagonal slices.

    Serve the bread with the spaghetti mixture.

    From: http://www.hy-vee.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue May 14 15:32:26 2024
    Hi Dave,

    and with minor adaptations made it my own. This works in an oven or on
    a Ferris wheel (rotissiere).

    We have a rotissiere attachment for one of our grills so will do
    chicken on that every so often. There's a whole one in the freezer awaiting that treatment, have to decide what seasoning to use this
    time. (G)

    I really liked my Farberware Ferris Wheel - did chickens, roasts and
    other things on it. One time I had a nice fat hen riding the ferris
    wheel and my girl friend started to put paper towels in the drip tray.

    When I asked she said "Make it easier to clean up." I told her "That's
    why I do the cooking and you do te dishes. The drippings are the base
    for the gravy."

    Whoops! Hopefully you were able to salvage enough drippings to make a
    decent gravy.


    I prefer the rotissiere - but if you've got the stuff/room in your RV.
    go for it. Bv)=

    Main meals are furnished as part of the rally for the next few days.
    After the rally we're going to stop at the Creation Museum and then
    head home. RV has to go into the shop for a bit, hopefully work will be finishe before our next trip.

    Nothing structural I hope. My brother offered my a Winnebago motor
    home he has sitting in his side yard. It's ben sitting for so long
    that all
    of the batteries will need replacing. And all six tires which are not
    only flat - but dry rotted. And I shudder to think of the condition of
    the belts and hoses in the engine bay. In this case - Free ... isn't.

    Bits and pieces of things mostly, covered by the warranty. We think it
    was either a Monday afternoon or Friday morning model, some nice
    features and some "What were they thinking.......?" features. A piece of
    non warranty work is going to be replacing one side--the aluminum got
    creased good by a trer branch in TX.

    And that doesn't mean that the mice haven't been eating wires
    throughout the unit - not just on the engine.

    Sound like you're better off without it; I'd hate to think of how much
    money would have to be sunk into it to make it even basically road
    worthy.


    Title: Campfire Potatoes
    Categories: Potatoes, Vegetables, Cheese, Herbs
    Yield: 6 servings

    We've been cooking indoors for the most part, not done anything major so
    far, even tho brought stuff to do so. We ate out last night with some of
    the Rally folks at a Penn. Dutch place, buffet had a lot of good stuff
    so I just took little bits of maybe half a dozen things plus about the
    same on the salad bar. Went to the Smucker's store in the
    afternoon--lots of nothing we needed so went on to the Coblinz chocolate
    place and spent some money there. (G)

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue May 14 15:43:42 2024
    Hi Dave,

    antique dealers. We kept one small Kluge letterpress w/automatic feed capability as a numbering station for forms, etc. in the job shop.

    And time marched on......

    Used to march at a measured pace. Now it races ... the older I get the faster it seems to go.

    I know, it's hard to believe that the year is more than a quarter gone
    already.

    This guy didn't know how to put together a paper, even tho his father
    had done so for some 50 or 60 years. I couldn't count how many times he early (pre IBM as such) days and made their fortune so this guy was not working on the paper for a living as all the employees were.

    Just because you've got a pile of sheckels doesn't make you smart. But
    it might make you a politician where you can really do some damage.

    True, and most likely someone not worth voting for.

    that my favourite farmstand - Suttill's - was advertising strawberries
    on their road sign w/a promise of "Asparagus next week". Bv)=

    Asparagus sounds good. Best I ever had was in Germany, white asparagus lightly blanched, then soaked in a light lemon vinegarette.

    My favourite way to eat aspapragus in freshly picked - right in the

    I don't have the luxury of having a patch so I'll get it at the
    farmer's market.

    The tree guys came and removed thje evergreen hedge from the front of
    the house this morning. I'll be putting in a 30 by 4 by 2 feet tall
    raised be garden. It's a little late in the year for many things - but
    I can still do tomatoes, radishes, carrots and chilies. I'm debating
    with myself whether to rent a small Bobcat to dig a trench for
    asparagus roots. Or to hire it done. I'm certainly past the point of hand-digging the bed. I may talk to my friend Laszlo to see if his
    scout troupe would be interested in earning and learning. Bv)=

    Scouts would probably enjoy doing it, especially if there was a donation
    to the troop as part of it. Depending on how long it took/turnout of
    scouts, grilling some hot dogs at the end or for lunch might be part of
    the payment as well.


    patch. Never did nor cooked/eaten white asparagus. I know how to get
    it to be white ... by keeping it in the dark. But, that's more hassle
    than I care to exert for a "special effect".

    I'll let others do the work; I'll just enjoy the results. But, we don't hardly see the white asparagus over here, and if it's available,
    usually it's a premium price for less than stellar looking stalks.

    Is there any substantial difference in flavour of white and "normal" asparagus?

    White has a more delicate flavor than green. The green asparagus usually
    has a strong, earthy taste but the white is milder in comparison. Best
    way to find out is to buy a couple of stalks of each, cook them the same
    way and do a side by side taste test.


    Depending on the length of the asparagus stalks I'll use with my Mary Dunbar 3 qt. steamer (looks like a double boiler) or my "As Seen On
    TV" bamboo steamer to make this recipe:

    Title: Asparagus Hollandaise
    Categories: Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 4 servings

    I've got various ways to steam it but have never tried making the hollandaise sauce. I'd rather have a light sauce that doesn't detract
    from the taste of the greens.

    Hollandaise, at least the way I make it, enhances the flavour rather
    than overwhelms it. Certainly it's better than the stuff from the can
    of Golden Age (food service) sauce. Bv)=

    I'd make it myself, most things that come out of food service size cans
    aren't very tasty.


    Here's another quick 'n' easy sauce that goes good with asparagus and
    many other things.


    Title: 5 Minute Garlic Aioli
    Categories: Sauces, Dips, Citrus
    Yield: 4 servings

    It does look good.
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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Dave Drum on Wed May 15 12:14:46 2024
    Re: Re: Round Tuits
    By: Dave Drum to Ben Collver on Wed May 15 2024 05:05:00

    UDD NOTE: If this is too "garlicky" use roasted garlic
    to tone it down.

    I see what you did there.

    In reference to what? I'm confoozled.

    I read it as "if this is too garlicky, then add more garlic!"

    I probably should have read it as "if you think this will be too
    garlicky, then substitute roasted garlic instead of raw garlic."
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Thu May 16 05:19:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I really liked my Farberware Ferris Wheel - did chickens, roasts and
    other things on it. One time I had a nice fat hen riding the ferris
    wheel and my girl friend started to put paper towels in the drip tray.

    When I asked she said "Make it easier to clean up." I told her "That's
    why I do the cooking and you do te dishes. The drippings are the base
    for the gravy."

    Whoops! Hopefully you were able to salvage enough drippings to make a decent gravy.

    It was "early days" and the chicken hadn't started sweating any fat yet.
    PHEW!

    I prefer the rotissiere - but if you've got the stuff/room in your RV.
    go for it. Bv)=

    Main meals are furnished as part of the rally for the next few days.
    After the rally we're going to stop at the Creation Museum and then
    head home. RV has to go into the shop for a bit, hopefully work will be finishe before our next trip.

    Nothing structural I hope. My brother offered my a Winnebago motor
    home he has sitting in his side yard. It's ben sitting for so long
    that all of the batteries will need replacing. And all six tires
    only flat - but dry rotted. And I shudder to think of the which are
    not condition of the belts and hoses in the engine bay.

    In this case - Free ... isn't.

    Bits and pieces of things mostly, covered by the warranty. We think it
    was either a Monday afternoon or Friday morning model, some nice
    features and some "What were they thinking.......?" features. A piece
    of non warranty work is going to be replacing one side--the aluminum
    got creased good by a trer branch in TX.

    OWTCH. It always hurts more when it's self inflicted.

    And that doesn't mean that the mice haven't been eating wires
    throughout the unit - not just on the engine.

    Sound like you're better off without it; I'd hate to think of how much money would have to be sunk into it to make it even basically road
    worthy.

    6 General (my preferred brand) 11R22.5 tires @ U$550/tire
    3 Deep Cycle Marine/RV batteries @ U$250

    Just to get started. That's not a money pit. It's a canyon. Bv)=

    Title: Campfire Potatoes
    Categories: Potatoes, Vegetables, Cheese, Herbs
    Yield: 6 servings

    We've been cooking indoors for the most part, not done anything major
    so far, even tho brought stuff to do so. We ate out last night with
    some of the Rally folks at a Penn. Dutch place, buffet had a lot of
    good stuff so I just took little bits of maybe half a dozen things plus about the same on the salad bar. Went to the Smucker's store in the afternoon--lots of nothing we needed so went on to the Coblinz
    chocolate place and spent some money there. (G)

    Buffets can be a good thing or a hazard. With the reduction in capacity
    as I age out it's hard to get my "money's worth" at an AYCE place. If
    I eat too much I'm either miserable or so carb-loaded that all I want
    is a soft spot and a nap. Bv0=

    Still, sometimes on a weeked morning I'll hit the Golden Corral's AYCE breakfast and pig out on bacon and some really good cinnamon rolls - of
    course with hash-brown casserole, eggs, sausage gravy. etc. But, then I
    won't eat anything for the rest of the day .... uuually.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cinnamon Rolls
    Categories: Breads, Icing, Nuts
    Yield: 12 Rolls

    MMMMM---------------------------DOUGH--------------------------------
    3/4 c Milk
    1 lg Egg
    1/2 ts Salt
    4 tb Butter; cut up
    3 c Bread flour
    3 tb Sugar
    2 ts Yeast

    MMMMM--------------------------FILLING-------------------------------
    1/3 c Butter; melted
    1/2 c Sugar
    2 ts Cinnamon
    1/2 ts Nutmeg
    1/2 c Nuts; chopped

    MMMMM---------------------------ICING--------------------------------
    1 c Powdered sugar
    1 tb Milk; more as needed
    1/2 ts Vanilla

    Add dough ingredients to bread machine pan in order
    given; use dough setting on machine.

    When machine chimes, remove dough, placing on floured
    surface. Knead dough 1 minute, then let rest for 15
    minutes.

    Roll dough out into a rectangle, 15" x 10". Spread
    melted butter over dough to within 1" of edges. Sprinkle
    sugar, cinnamon, nutmeg & nuts evenly over dough. Roll
    dough up tightly on long side. Press edges to seal and
    form into a 12" long roll. Cut roll into 1" slices.

    Place rolls into greased 13" x 9" baking pan. Cover and
    let rise in warm place 30-45 minutes until doubled in
    size.

    Bake in a 375ºF/190ºC oven for 20-25 minutes or until
    golden.

    Cool in pan for 10-15 minutes, then drizzle with icing.

    Recipe By: Kris Milliron

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Thu May 16 05:51:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    This guy didn't know how to put together a paper, even tho his father
    had done so for some 50 or 60 years. I couldn't count how many times he early (pre IBM as such) days and made their fortune so this guy was not working on the paper for a living as all the employees were.

    Just because you've got a pile of sheckels doesn't make you smart. But
    it might make you a politician where you can really do some damage.

    True, and most likely someone not worth voting for.

    True dat. I find it hard to believe than in a country of 340 million
    people the two 'assumed' presidential candidates are the best we can do.
    Still, yo gotta vote - if you don't vote you have no right to gripe.

    And I'm going to gripe.

    8<---- SHORTEN ----->8

    The tree guys came and removed thje evergreen hedge from the front of
    the house this morning. I'll be putting in a 30 by 4 by 2 feet tall
    raised be garden. It's a little late in the year for many things - but
    I can still do tomatoes, radishes, carrots and chilies. I'm debating
    with myself whether to rent a small Bobcat to dig a trench for
    asparagus roots. Or to hire it done. I'm certainly past the point of hand-digging the bed. I may talk to my friend Laszlo to see if his
    scout troupe would be interested in earning and learning. Bv)=

    Scouts would probably enjoy doing it, especially if there was a
    donation to the troop as part of it. Depending on how long it
    took/turnout of scouts, grilling some hot dogs at the end or for lunch might be part of the payment as well.

    Kids like to eat. That's a fact.

    patch. Never did nor cooked/eaten white asparagus. I know how to get
    it to be white ... by keeping it in the dark. But, that's more hassle
    than I care to exert for a "special effect".

    I'll let others do the work; I'll just enjoy the results. But, we don't hardly see the white asparagus over here, and if it's available,
    usually it's a premium price for less than stellar looking stalks.

    Is there any substantial difference in flavour of white and "normal" asparagus?

    White has a more delicate flavor than green. The green asparagus
    usually has a strong, earthy taste but the white is milder in
    comparison. Best way to find out is to buy a couple of stalks of each, cook them the same way and do a side by side taste test.

    OK. I'll probably pass it then. I like "bold" flavours.

    Depending on the length of the asparagus stalks I'll use with my Mary Dunbar 3 qt. steamer (looks like a double boiler) or my "As Seen On
    TV" bamboo steamer to make this recipe:

    Title: Asparagus Hollandaise
    Categories: Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 4 servings

    I've got various ways to steam it but have never tried making the hollandaise sauce. I'd rather have a light sauce that doesn't detract
    from the taste of the greens.

    Hollandaise, at least the way I make it, enhances the flavour rather
    than overwhelms it. Certainly it's better than the stuff from the can
    of Golden Age (food service) sauce. Bv)=

    I'd make it myself, most things that come out of food service size cans aren't very tasty.

    It's pretty essy butter, egg yolks and lemon juice and some stirring.

    Some years ago I got into a fuss at a breakfast buffet with their egg
    mechanic (I refuse to call him a cook) over the Hollandaise with the
    Eggs Benedict .... not to mention that the "poached" eggs were cooked
    to the point that the yolks were "set".

    He told me "If you think you can do any better ..." and pointed me to
    the kitchen. I took him up on it and soon found what I needed and was
    just about finished when this female voice asked loudy "What ate you
    doing in my kitchen?!?!?" It was the restaurant manager.

    So I explained how it came to pass. As I took the pan from the hob she
    ran a finger through my sauce and popped it into her mouth. I nearly
    clocked her one upside the head. That finger was a definite no-no in
    any kitchen I have worked in - for pay or at home.

    She removed the finger from her mouth and asked "You want a job?" Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Perfect Poached Eggs
    Categories: Eggs
    Yield: 2 servings

    4 lg Eggs

    Fill a saucepan with several inches of water. Heat the
    water on high until it reaches a boil and then lower the
    heat until the water is at a bare simmer (just a few
    bubbles coming up now and then).

    Working with the eggs one at a time, crack the egg into
    a small bowl or cup. Place the bowl close to the surface
    of the hot water and gently slip the egg into the water.

    If you want, use a spoon to push some of the egg whites
    closer to their yolks, to help them hold together. Add
    all of the eggs you are poaching to the pan in the same
    way, keeping some distance between them.

    Turn off the heat and cover the pan. Set a timer for 4
    minutes. At this point the egg whites should be
    completely cooked, while the egg yolks are still runny.

    Note that the timing depends on the size of the eggs,
    the number of eggs in the pot, and if you are cooking at
    altitude, so adjust accordingly. If you are at altitude,
    want firmer egg yolks, or are poaching more than 4 eggs
    at once, you may need to cook them longer. If you try 4
    minutes and the eggs are too cooked, reduce the time.

    Gently lift the poached eggs out of the pan with a
    slotted spoon and place on a plate to serve.

    To easily drain the eggs, place them on a slice of stale
    bread before serving. The bread will absorb the water-no
    more soggy poached eggs!

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.simplyrecipes.com

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DAVE DRUM on Thu May 16 08:34:00 2024
    True, and most likely someone not worth voting for.

    True dat. I find it hard to believe than in a country of 340 million
    people the two 'assumed' presidential candidates are the best we can do.

    Yeah, no kidding. That is starting to become pretty commonplace here, though... instead of picking the best candidate, you have to try to figure
    out who the "least worst" is.

    Still, yo gotta vote - if you don't vote you have no right to gripe.

    And I'm going to gripe.

    Me, too!

    Mike


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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ben Collver on Thu May 16 08:54:00 2024
    Ben Collver wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    UDD NOTE: If this is too "garlicky" use roasted garlic
    to tone it down.

    I see what you did there.MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Editor's Favourite Thai Fish Sauce & Lime Chicken
    Categories: Oriental, Poultry, Nuts, Citrus, Sauces
    Yield: 4 Servings

    24 oz Chicken meat; skinned, boned
    1/4 ts Salt
    1 tb Oil
    1 c Chicken broth
    3 tb Sweetened chilli sauce
    2 ts Fish sauce
    1/4 c Fresh lime juice
    1 ts Creamy peanut butter
    2 tb Chopped roasted peanuts
    Lime wedges (opt)

    Sweetened chilli sauce is found in Asian markets, and it
    is often served alongside egg rolls. A similar condiment
    available in most grocery stores is called Thai sweet
    red chile dipping sauce.

    Place chicken between 2 sheets of heavy-duty plastic
    wrap; pound to 1/2" thickness using a meat mallet or
    rolling pin. Sprinkle chicken evenly with 1/4 ts salt.

    Heat oil in a large nonstick skillet over medium heat.
    Add chicken; cook 6 minutes on each side or until done.
    Remove chicken from pan; keep warm.

    Add broth, chilli sauce, and fish sauce; bring to a boil,
    scraping pan to loosen browned bits. Cook until broth
    mixture is reduced to 2/3 cup (about 4 minutes). Remove
    from heat; add lime juice and peanut butter, stirring
    until smooth. Serve sauce over chicken; sprinkle with
    peanuts.

    Garnish with lime wedges, if desired.

    Serve this chicken with white rice.

    Yield: 4 servings

    Recipe by Cheryl Alters Jamison and Bill Jamison

    Cooking Light | JANUARY 2005

    From: http://find.myrecipes.com

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    In reference to what? I'm confoozled.

    I read it as "if this is too garlicky, then add more garlic!"

    I probably should have read it as "if you think this will be too
    garlicky, then substitute roasted garlic instead of raw garlic."

    The mind sees what it expects to see most often. Which is why most
    writers let someone else edit their writings. Seriously. Many time an
    outsider will pounce on a glaring error that the writer has missed on
    multiple re-readings.


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Mike Powell on Fri May 17 05:54:13 2024
    Mike Powell wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    True, and most likely someone not worth voting for.

    True dat. I find it hard to believe than in a country of 340 million
    people the two 'assumed' presidential candidates are the best we can do.

    Yeah, no kidding. That is starting to become pretty commonplace here, though... instead of picking the best candidate, you have to try to
    figure out who the "least worst" is.

    Still, yo gotta vote - if you don't vote you have no right to gripe.

    And I'm going to gripe.

    Me, too!

    It's getting almost as bad as religion ... which is another verboten
    topic for for the cooking echo. I'm going to leave off lest I get a
    "rocket" from the moderator. Bv)-

    I tried the poly-tics echoes some years ago and they were filled with extremists and schoolyard bullies. I've had to deal with enough of those
    in real life - so I shined them on.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Politically Correct Balkan Pljeskavica
    Categories: Pork, Grains, Cheese, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb (440g) ground pork
    1 lg Egg
    1 tb Cracked wheat, bulgur, flour
    - or bread crumbs
    1/2 c Chopped mushrooms
    1/2 c Grated "yellow" cheese
    1/2 c Crumbled feta
    Splash of beer
    Paprika, salt & pepper
    1 ts Chile powder
    1/4 ts Dried oregano or chubritsa
    2 tb Chopped fresh dill; (the key
    - ingredient)
    Onions & garlic are optional

    * kashkaval cheese if can get it

    A kind reader passed along ths, which, he says is a
    hybrid of the pljeskavica he found in Serbia (where it
    is best), in Macedonia (where they claim to have invented
    it), and in Bulgaria (where he lives). In Serbia and
    Macedonia they like to serve it as a giant flat communal
    burger, he says, so it can be spread on a baking pan,
    baked until it turns slightly pink, and then put on the
    grill.

    Pljeskavica is traditionally served with a salad of
    chopped tomatoes and cucumbers with feta, salt and oil,
    fresh bread, and "of course," Balkan (or even Czech)
    plum brandy. It may also be served with djuvec rice.

    Mix the ingredients together in a large bowl. Make
    individual patties or one large one.

    Cook on a grill, a grill pan, a frying pan, or under the
    broiler.

    From: http://www.ochef.com

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DAVE DRUM on Fri May 17 09:50:00 2024
    It's getting almost as bad as religion ... which is another verboten
    topic for for the cooking echo. I'm going to leave off lest I get a
    "rocket" from the moderator. Bv)-

    Well, I am the moderator but it is best to leave those topics for elsewhere.

    I tried the poly-tics echoes some years ago and they were filled with extremists and schoolyard bullies. I've had to deal with enough of those
    in real life - so I shined them on.

    Indeed!

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Politically Correct Balkan Pljeskavica
    Categories: Pork, Grains, Cheese, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb (440g) ground pork

    This sounds pretty good. It is difficult to mess up pork. :) Several
    years ago, there was a pizza place in Brownsburg, Indiana, called Adriatic Pizza. The owners were from the former Yugoslavia (Slovenia, IIRC). They
    used some different sausages and herbs than you'd find at most other pizza places. The pizza was really good!

    Last time I was by there, they were not there any more. A lot of the
    locals were disappointed that the previous joint, that featured a lot of
    old racing memorabilia, was gone and I don't think they gave the new place a chance. Their loss!

    Mike


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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Mike Powell on Sat May 18 06:27:00 2024
    Mike Powell wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    It's getting almost as bad as religion ... which is another verboten
    topic for for the cooking echo. I'm going to leave off lest I get a
    "rocket" from the moderator. Bv)-

    Well, I am the moderator but it is best to leave those topics for elsewhere.

    Oh, that's right. Sean gave it up due to health issues. We're a pretty
    well behaved bunch and don't require as much supervision as some of the
    more contentious echoes. Bv)=

    I tried the poly-tics echoes some years ago and they were filled with extremists and schoolyard bullies. I've had to deal with enough of those
    in real life - so I shined them on.

    Indeed!

    As I said above .....

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Politically Correct Balkan Pljeskavica
    Categories: Pork, Grains, Cheese, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb (440g) ground pork

    This sounds pretty good. It is difficult to mess up pork. :) Several years ago, there was a pizza place in Brownsburg, Indiana, called
    Adriatic Pizza. The owners were from the former Yugoslavia (Slovenia, IIRC). They used some different sausages and herbs than you'd find at most other pizza places. The pizza was really good!

    Last time I was by there, they were not there any more. A lot of the locals were disappointed that the previous joint, that featured a lot
    of old racing memorabilia, was gone and I don't think they gave the new place a chance. Their loss!

    I once got into a Greek place when I was in Quebec with my Hoosier Tire
    crew doing an CATcar race at Sanair Super Speedway. The restaurant was
    next door to our hotel. The crew guys wanted pizza - which looked odd
    when brought to the table - lumps of cheese (crumbled feta) and BIG
    slices of tomato. The sausage was from links sliced in coins. I tried a
    small slice and it had a very nice flavour. But I went back to my order
    of moussaka.

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    I've done this a couple times. But the Macedonians, Janos and Ozzie at
    the local truckstop cafe do it better. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Meat & Potato Moussaka
    Categories: Lamb/mutton, Beef, Potatoes, Cheese, Dairy
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 lb Ground lamb or beef
    1 md Onion; chopped
    1 cl Garlic; minced
    3/4 c Water
    6 oz Can tomato paste
    3 tb Minced fresh parsley
    1 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Dried mint; opt
    1/4 ts Ground cinnamon
    1/4 ts Pepper
    5 md Potatoes; peeled, thin
    - sliced

    MMMMM-----------------------PARMESAN SAUCE----------------------------
    1/4 c Butter; in cubes
    1/4 c All-purpose flour
    2 c Milk
    4 lg Eggs; lightly beaten
    1/2 c Grated Parmesan cheese
    1/2 ts Salt

    In a large skillet, cook beef and onion over medium heat
    until meat is no longer pink. Add garlic; cook 1 minute
    longer. Drain. Stir in the water, tomato paste, parsley,
    salt, mint if desired, cinnamon and pepper. Set aside.

    For sauce, melt butter in a saucepan over medium heat.
    Stir in flour until smooth; gradually add milk. Bring to
    a boil; cook and stir for 2 minutes or until thickened.
    Remove from the heat. Stir a small amount of hot mixture
    into eggs; return all to the pan, stirring constantly.
    Add cheese and salt.

    Place half of the potato slices in a greased shallow 3 qt
    baking dish. Top with half of the cheese sauce and all of
    the meat mixture. Arrange the remaining potatoes over
    meat mixture; top with the remaining cheese sauce.

    Bake, uncovered, @ 350oF/175oC for 1 hour. Let stand for
    10 minutes before serving.

    Jean Puffer, Chilliwack, British Columbia

    Yield: 6 servings.

    From: http://www.tasteofhome.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri May 17 17:08:22 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Back home from our wanderings; we were out first in western NY for a
    few days, then in the Berlin/Millersburg, Ohio region for about a week.
    Had some good eating out in both places.

    wheel and my girl friend started to put paper towels in the drip
    tray.

    When I asked she said "Make it easier to clean up." I told her "That's
    why I do the cooking and you do te dishes. The drippings are the base
    for the gravy."

    Whoops! Hopefully you were able to salvage enough drippings to make a decent gravy.

    It was "early days" and the chicken hadn't started sweating any fat
    yet. PHEW!

    Good catch then.


    I prefer the rotissiere - but if you've got the stuff/room in your RV.
    go for it. Bv)=

    Main meals are furnished as part of the rally for the next few days.
    After the rally we're going to stop at the Creation Museum and then
    head home. RV has to go into the shop for a bit, hopefully work will be finishe before our next trip.

    Nothing structural I hope. My brother offered my a Winnebago motor
    home he has sitting in his side yard. It's ben sitting for so long
    that all of the batteries will need replacing. And all six tires
    only flat - but dry rotted. And I shudder to think of the which are
    not condition of the belts and hoses in the engine bay.

    In this case - Free ... isn't.

    Bits and pieces of things mostly, covered by the warranty. We think it
    was either a Monday afternoon or Friday morning model, some nice
    features and some "What were they thinking.......?" features. A piece
    of non warranty work is going to be replacing one side--the aluminum
    got creased good by a tree branch in TX.

    OWTCH. It always hurts more when it's self inflicted.

    The repair shop will have some more work to do now. Stopped for gas
    yesterday in Beckley, WVA at a Sam's Club. To get to the station, had to
    go up a hill, then make a left turn. Steve started turning, camper
    doesn't swing as wide as the truck so he caught the back end of another
    pickup truck. From what I understand, relativly light damage to the
    truck but a good scrape along the lower (opposite, go figure) side of
    the camper. Steve said that the cop that checked them out said that it's
    not the first accident there so it sounds like the road needs to be
    redesigned.

    And that doesn't mean that the mice haven't been eating wires DD>
    throughout the unit - not just on the engine.

    Sound like you're better off without it; I'd hate to think of how much money would have to be sunk into it to make it even basically road
    worthy.

    6 General (my preferred brand) 11R22.5 tires @ U$550/tire
    3 Deep Cycle Marine/RV batteries @ U$250

    Just to get started. That's not a money pit. It's a canyon. Bv)=

    A rather grand one at that.


    We've been cooking indoors for the most part, not done anything major
    so far, even tho brought stuff to do so. We ate out last night with
    some of the Rally folks at a Penn. Dutch place, buffet had a lot of
    good stuff so I just took little bits of maybe half a dozen things plus about the same on the salad bar. Went to the Smucker's store in the afternoon--lots of nothing we needed so went on to the Coblinz
    chocolate place and spent some money there. (G)

    Buffets can be a good thing or a hazard. With the reduction in
    capacity as I age out it's hard to get my "money's worth" at an AYCE place. If
    I eat too much I'm either miserable or so carb-loaded that all I want
    is a soft spot and a nap. Bv0=

    I try to go easy, with second buffet I asked for a piece of
    strawberry/rhubarb pie--to go. It was good, but not great.


    Still, sometimes on a weeked morning I'll hit the Golden Corral's AYCE breakfast and pig out on bacon and some really good cinnamon rolls -
    of course with hash-brown casserole, eggs, sausage gravy. etc. But,
    then I won't eat anything for the rest of the day .... uuually.

    Our Golden Corral closed, building became a ghost kitchen for several
    take out places.


    Title: Cinnamon Rolls
    Categories: Breads, Icing, Nuts
    Yield: 12 Rolls

    We got some pastries (was supposed to be just doughnuts) yesterday at
    the end of the rally. Steve brought home a couple of about 12" long,
    probably close to 6" round creme filled with thick icing (one maple, one chocolate) pastries. He also had a couple of probably 8" diameter
    "snails". I had about 4" of the maple pastry yesteray, about 6" of one
    section of the snail today, both for breakfast. Others will be consumed
    over the next couple of days.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri May 17 17:24:19 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Just because you've got a pile of sheckels doesn't make you smart. But
    it might make you a politician where you can really do some damage.

    True, and most likely someone not worth voting for.

    True dat. I find it hard to believe than in a country of 340 million people the two 'assumed' presidential candidates are the best we can
    do. Still, yo gotta vote - if you don't vote you have no right to
    gripe.

    Agreed, and enough said.


    And I'm going to gripe.

    8<---- SHORTEN ----->8

    The tree guys came and removed thje evergreen hedge from the front of
    the house this morning. I'll be putting in a 30 by 4 by 2 feet tall
    raised be garden. It's a little late in the year for many things - but
    I can still do tomatoes, radishes, carrots and chilies. I'm debating
    with myself whether to rent a small Bobcat to dig a trench for
    asparagus roots. Or to hire it done. I'm certainly past the point of hand-digging the bed. I may talk to my friend Laszlo to see if his
    scout troupe would be interested in earning and learning. Bv)=

    Scouts would probably enjoy doing it, especially if there was a
    donation to the troop as part of it. Depending on how long it
    took/turnout of scouts, grilling some hot dogs at the end or for lunch might be part of the payment as well.

    Kids like to eat. That's a fact.

    And some of them can really pack away the food. My younger brother was
    one of them--from the time he started eating solid food, he would put
    away enough food to feed a grown man. He has slacked off some over the
    years but he could probably still eat more than Steve and me combined at
    any meal.


    Is there any substantial difference in flavour of white and "normal" asparagus?

    White has a more delicate flavor than green. The green asparagus
    usually has a strong, earthy taste but the white is milder in
    comparison. Best way to find out is to buy a couple of stalks of each, cook them the same way and do a side by side taste test.

    OK. I'll probably pass it then. I like "bold" flavours.

    IMO, they're both good, depends on what I'm having with it as to if I'll
    want white or green asparagus.


    Title: Asparagus Hollandaise
    Categories: Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 4 servings

    I've got various ways to steam it but have never tried making the hollandaise sauce. I'd rather have a light sauce that doesn't detract
    from the taste of the greens.

    Hollandaise, at least the way I make it, enhances the flavour rather
    than overwhelms it. Certainly it's better than the stuff from the can
    of Golden Age (food service) sauce. Bv)=

    I'd make it myself, most things that come out of food service size cans aren't very tasty.

    It's pretty essy butter, egg yolks and lemon juice and some stirring.

    Some years ago I got into a fuss at a breakfast buffet with their egg mechanic (I refuse to call him a cook) over the Hollandaise with the
    Eggs Benedict .... not to mention that the "poached" eggs were cooked
    to the point that the yolks were "set".

    That's no cook.

    He told me "If you think you can do any better ..." and pointed me to
    the kitchen. I took him up on it and soon found what I needed and was
    just about finished when this female voice asked loudy "What ate you
    doing in my kitchen?!?!?" It was the restaurant manager.

    So I explained how it came to pass. As I took the pan from the hob she
    ran a finger through my sauce and popped it into her mouth. I nearly clocked her one upside the head. That finger was a definite no-no in
    any kitchen I have worked in - for pay or at home.

    Should have offered her a spoon. She should have known better; I'd
    probably not patronise that place again.

    She removed the finger from her mouth and asked "You want a job?"
    Bv)=

    Not working for you, lady. (G)

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DAVE DRUM on Sat May 18 13:31:00 2024
    Well, I am the moderator but it is best to leave those topics for elsewhere.

    Oh, that's right. Sean gave it up due to health issues. We're a pretty
    well behaved bunch and don't require as much supervision as some of the
    more contentious echoes. Bv)=

    Yeah, as long as I don't trigger anyone with a rules posting. :D

    I once got into a Greek place when I was in Quebec with my Hoosier Tire
    crew doing an CATcar race at Sanair Super Speedway. The restaurant was
    next door to our hotel. The crew guys wanted pizza - which looked odd
    when brought to the table - lumps of cheese (crumbled feta) and BIG
    slices of tomato. The sausage was from links sliced in coins. I tried a
    small slice and it had a very nice flavour. But I went back to my order
    of moussaka.

    The "baltic" pizzas I had looked like an "italian" pizza but the meats and spices were a little different. That greek one you describe doesn't sound
    bad. Did it seem to have much olive oil in the mix?

    Mike


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sun May 19 05:31:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Bits and pieces of things mostly, covered by the warranty. We think it
    was either a Monday afternoon or Friday morning model, some nice
    features and some "What were they thinking.......?" features. A piece
    of non warranty work is going to be replacing one side--the aluminum
    got creased good by a tree branch in TX.

    OWTCH. It always hurts more when it's self inflicted.

    The repair shop will have some more work to do now. Stopped for gas yesterday in Beckley, WVA at a Sam's Club. To get to the station, had
    to go up a hill, then make a left turn. Steve started turning, camper doesn't swing as wide as the truck so he caught the back end of another pickup truck. From what I understand, relativly light damage to the
    truck but a good scrape along the lower (opposite, go figure) side of
    the camper. Steve said that the cop that checked them out said that
    it's not the first accident there so it sounds like the road needs to
    be redesigned.

    I did one of those "turn too short" deals with my car last year. I did
    the repair on the guy's pickup with a cloth and some cleaner/polish I
    had in the truck. But it co$t mt 1400 bux down the body shop to put the
    Beemer right.

    And that doesn't mean that the mice haven't been eating wires DD>
    throughout the unit - not just on the engine.

    Sound like you're better off without it; I'd hate to think of how much money would have to be sunk into it to make it even basically road
    worthy.

    6 General (my preferred brand) 11R22.5 tires @ U$550/tire
    3 Deep Cycle Marine/RV batteries @ U$250

    Just to get started. That's not a money pit. It's a canyon. Bv)=

    A rather grand one at that.

    We've been cooking indoors for the most part, not done anything major
    so far, even tho brought stuff to do so. We ate out last night with
    some of the Rally folks at a Penn. Dutch place, buffet had a lot of
    good stuff so I just took little bits of maybe half a dozen things plus about the same on the salad bar. Went to the Smucker's store in the afternoon--lots of nothing we needed so went on to the Coblinz
    chocolate place and spent some money there. (G)

    Buffets can be a good thing or a hazard. With the reduction in
    capacity as I age out it's hard to get my "money's worth" at an AYCE place. If
    I eat too much I'm either miserable or so carb-loaded that all I want
    is a soft spot and a nap. Bv0=

    I try to go easy, with second buffet I asked for a piece of strawberry/rhubarb pie--to go. It was good, but not great.

    I noticed they finally put a "Coming Soon" sign on a major construction
    project - which I though from the design was to be a strip mall. Instead
    the sign proclaims "GRAND BUFFET" and opening soon. That sucker is literally
    a city block long. WOW!

    Still, sometimes on a weeked morning I'll hit the Golden Corral's AYCE breakfast and pig out on bacon and some really good cinnamon rolls -
    of course with hash-brown casserole, eggs, sausage gravy. etc. But,
    then I won't eat anything for the rest of the day .... uuually.

    Our Golden Corral closed, building became a ghost kitchen for several
    take out places.

    Our was closed during the pandemic. But they used to time to remodel and fix things up.

    Title: Cinnamon Rolls
    Categories: Breads, Icing, Nuts
    Yield: 12 Rolls

    We got some pastries (was supposed to be just doughnuts) yesterday at
    the end of the rally. Steve brought home a couple of about 12" long, probably close to 6" round creme filled with thick icing (one maple,
    one chocolate) pastries. He also had a couple of probably 8" diameter "snails". I had about 4" of the maple pastry yesteray, about 6" of one section of the snail today, both for breakfast. Others will be consumed over the next couple of days.

    Watch out for sugar shock. Bv)=

    This looks really good but it will feed a crowd ....

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cinnamon Roll Breakfast Casserole
    Categories: Breads, Nuts, Dairy, Eggs
    Yield: 9 servings

    1 tb Butter; for the baking dish
    3 (12.4-oz) tubes refrigerated
    - cinnamon roll dough;
    - w/frosting
    4 lg Eggs
    1/2 c Half & Half
    1/2 ts Ground cinnamon
    1/4 ts Salt
    1/3 c (packed) dark brown sugar
    1/3 c Pecans; chopped
    1/3 c Sour cream

    Set the oven @ 350ºF/175ºC.

    Generously butter a 9" X 13" baking dish. Cut each round
    of cinnamon roll dough into 4 pieces. Reserve the
    frosting packets.

    Whisk together the eggs, half-and-half, cinnamon and
    salt in a large bowl. Add the cinnamon roll dough and
    toss lightly to coat. Pour into the baking dish.

    Mix the brown sugar and pecans in a small bowl.
    Sprinkle on top of the casserole and bake until puffed,
    golden brown and cooked through, about 35 minutes.

    Meanwhile, whisk together the contents of the frosting
    packets and the sour cream in a medium bowl until
    smooth. Let the casserole cool for 10 minutes, then
    drizzle with the frosting.

    Recipe by Ree Drummond

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.thepioneerwoman.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sun May 19 05:58:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Kids like to eat. That's a fact.

    And some of them can really pack away the food. My younger brother was
    one of them--from the time he started eating solid food, he would put
    away enough food to feed a grown man. He has slacked off some over the years but he could probably still eat more than Steve and me combined
    at any meal.

    We had a guy in our informal group who looked like a normal person but
    he must have been hollow. Once, at Lum's, there was an AYCE buffet set
    up and Trapper went for it. Several trips. Finally the owner's father
    came over and told him "Sign says 'All You Care To Eat' not Eat All
    Day!"

    8<----- SHRINK ----->8

    Hollandaise, at least the way I make it, enhances the flavour rather
    than overwhelms it. Certainly it's better than the stuff from the can
    of Golden Age (food service) sauce. Bv)=

    I'd make it myself, most things that come out of food service size cans aren't very tasty.

    It's pretty essy butter, egg yolks and lemon juice and some stirring.

    Some years ago I got into a fuss at a breakfast buffet with their egg mechanic (I refuse to call him a cook) over the Hollandaise with the
    Eggs Benedict .... not to mention that the "poached" eggs were cooked
    to the point that the yolks were "set".

    That's no cook.

    He told me "If you think you can do any better ..." and pointed me to
    the kitchen. I took him up on it and soon found what I needed and was
    just about finished when this female voice asked loudy "What ate you
    doing in my kitchen?!?!?" It was the restaurant manager.

    So I explained how it came to pass. As I took the pan from the hob she
    ran a finger through my sauce and popped it into her mouth. I nearly clocked her one upside the head. That finger was a definite no-no in
    any kitchen I have worked in - for pay or at home.

    Should have offered her a spoon. She should have known better; I'd probably not patronise that place again.

    Didn't get a chance. She was a grumpy agitated (several expletives axed)
    old trout.

    She removed the finger from her mouth and asked "You want a job?"
    Bv)=

    Not working for you, lady. (G)

    Inzactly, I do not suffer that sort of behaviour gladly.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Anti-Crabby Cake
    Categories: Cakes, Desserts, Fruits, Cheese
    Yield: 12 servings

    MMMMM---------------------------CAKE---------------------------------
    20 oz Can crushed pineapple in
    - juice/syrup; udrained
    2 c A-P flour
    1 1/2 c Sugar
    2 lg Wggs
    2 ts Baking soda

    MMMMM-------------------------FROSTING-------------------------------
    8 oz Cream cheese; room temp
    4 oz Unsalted butter; room temp
    2 c Powdered sugar
    1 ts Vanilla
    2 tb Milk

    Set the oven @ 350ºF/175ºC.

    Put all cake ingredients into a large mixing bowl and
    blend by hand to combine. No need to bust out the
    beaters for this one, but you can if you want to!

    Pour mixture into a 9" X 13" glass pan. You do not need
    to grease, flour, spray, etc. Trust me; it comes out
    perfect without!

    Bake 30-40 minutes until just golden and baked through.

    You'll want to frost the cake while still warm, so
    prepare your frosting as your cake bakes. You can frost
    when cooled all the way, too, but it is just easier to
    frost warmer. Simply add your frosting ingredients into
    a large bowl and beat until combined and smooth.

    Spread the frosting on the warm cake right in the pan.
    Let cool, then refrigerate. Serve cold and enjoy!!

    By: Sarah Farrand, Saginaw, MI

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.justapinch.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Mike Powell on Sun May 19 07:05:00 2024
    Mike Powell wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    Well, I am the moderator but it is best to leave those topics for elsewhere.

    Oh, that's right. Sean gave it up due to health issues. We're a pretty
    well behaved bunch and don't require as much supervision as some of the
    more contentious echoes. Bv)=

    Yeah, as long as I don't trigger anyone with a rules posting. :D

    Fortunately he/they is/are twitted on all but once of the BBSes I visit.
    When I see one of the rants I just click the next button

    I once got into a Greek place when I was in Quebec with my Hoosier Tire
    crew doing an CATcar race at Sanair Super Speedway. The restaurant was
    next door to our hotel. The crew guys wanted pizza - which looked odd
    when brought to the table - lumps of cheese (crumbled feta) and BIG
    slices of tomato. The sausage was from links sliced in coins. I tried a small slice and it had a very nice flavour. But I went back to my order
    of moussaka.

    The "baltic" pizzas I had looked like an "italian" pizza but the meats
    and spices were a little different. That greek one you describe
    doesn't sound bad. Did it seem to have much olive oil in the mix?

    Didn't seem to have. It didn't run down my arm when I picked up a piece.
    And didn't drip onto the tablecloth.

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    even need wheels, just a swivel. Bv)=

    This is from my Amiga daze ....

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Progrmmer's Snack Mix
    Categories: Five, Grains, Nuts
    Yield: 10 servings

    1 c Salted (regular) butter
    1 c Brown sugar
    12 oz Box Crispix cereal
    1 1/2 c Coarse chopped pecans

    Set oven @ 325ºF/165ºC.

    Line an extra large baking sheet (or two smaller baking
    sheets) with foil and spray with cooking spray. Or use
    parchment paper and skip the spray.

    Spread cereal and nuts on prepared baking sheets.
    Set aside.

    Mix butter and brown sugar in a saucepan over
    medium-high heat. Boil for two minutes, stirring
    constantly.

    Pour caramel mixture over cereal and nuts; toss to coat.

    Bake for 8 minutes. Remove from oven, stir, and bake for
    an additional 8 minutes.

    Allow to cool, breaking apart any large clumps with a
    wooden spoon or spatula.

    Store in a Tupperware sealable container.

    Note: This is a basic recipe. You can tart it up with
    Worcestershire, different nuts, cayenne or other chile
    powders, etc. And you're not limited to Crispix - Chex
    is permitted. After all it's your snack - suit yourself.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Mon May 20 12:39:48 2024
    Hello Mike,

    Well, I am the moderator but it is best to leave those topics for
    elsewhere.

    Oh, that's right. Sean gave it up due to health issues. We're a pretty
    well behaved bunch and don't require as much supervision as some of the
    more contentious echoes. Bv)=

    Yeah, as long as I don't trigger anyone with a rules posting. :D

    What are Da Rulz?

    Rule #1: There are no Rules.

    Rule #2: See Rule #1.

    Dats Right.
    I am Da Mod.

    Eat your shorts.

    For Life,
    Lee (Da Rulz Guy)

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun May 19 19:34:41 2024
    Hi Dave,

    of non warranty work is going to be replacing one side--the aluminum
    got creased good by a tree branch in TX.

    OWTCH. It always hurts more when it's self inflicted.

    The repair shop will have some more work to do now. Stopped for gas yesterday in Beckley, WVA at a Sam's Club. To get to the station, had
    to go up a hill, then make a left turn. Steve started turning, camper doesn't swing as wide as the truck so he caught the back end of another pickup truck. From what I understand, relativly light damage to the
    truck but a good scrape along the lower (opposite, go figure) side of

    I did one of those "turn too short" deals with my car last year. I did
    the repair on the guy's pickup with a cloth and some cleaner/polish I
    had in the truck. But it co$t mt 1400 bux down the body shop to put
    the Beemer right.

    We're not sure how much this will cost. Steve did notify our insurance
    compaany but this is the second claim within a year so our rates will
    probably go up. Last time to the TX incident when a claim was made was December, 2016 and don't remember what before that.


    Sound like you're better off without it; I'd hate to think of how much money would have to be sunk into it to make it even basically road
    worthy.

    6 General (my preferred brand) 11R22.5 tires @ U$550/tire
    3 Deep Cycle Marine/RV batteries @ U$250

    Just to get started. That's not a money pit. It's a canyon. Bv)=

    A rather grand one at that.

    Quite so, you might be better off buying a new or a newer used if you
    really want to hhit the road.


    We've been cooking indoors for the most part, not done anything major
    so far, even tho brought stuff to do so. We ate out last night with
    some of the Rally folks at a Penn. Dutch place, buffet had a lot of
    good stuff so I just took little bits of maybe half a dozen things plus about the same on the salad bar. Went to the Smucker's store in the afternoon--lots of nothing we needed so went on to the Coblinz
    chocolate place and spent some money there. (G)

    Buffets can be a good thing or a hazard. With the reduction in
    capacity as I age out it's hard to get my "money's worth" at an AYCE place. If
    I eat too much I'm either miserable or so carb-loaded that all I want
    is a soft spot and a nap. Bv0=

    I try to go easy, with second buffet I asked for a piece of strawberry/rhubarb pie--to go. It was good, but not great.

    I noticed they finally put a "Coming Soon" sign on a major
    construction project - which I though from the design was to be a
    strip mall. Instead the sign proclaims "GRAND BUFFET" and opening
    soon. That sucker is literally a city block long. WOW!

    That is going to be a tough one to keep going. People will initially
    check it out but probably not want to frequent it very often, unless
    they don't cook for themselves. I could see my late brother taking
    advantage of it if he were living, and in that area.


    Still, sometimes on a weeked morning I'll hit the Golden Corral's AYCE breakfast and pig out on bacon and some really good cinnamon rolls -
    of course with hash-brown casserole, eggs, sausage gravy. etc. But,
    then I won't eat anything for the rest of the day .... uuually.

    Our Golden Corral closed, building became a ghost kitchen for several
    take out places.

    Our was closed during the pandemic. But they used to time to remodel
    and fix things up.

    We have one or two in Raleigh but haven't visited them. We liked them
    (and Western Sizzler) before they went to the buffet. Now the latter is,
    AFAIK, closed down completly, latter is dying fast.

    Title: Cinnamon Rolls
    Categories: Breads, Icing, Nuts
    Yield: 12 Rolls

    We got some pastries (was supposed to be just doughnuts) yesterday at
    the end of the rally. Steve brought home a couple of about 12" long, probably close to 6" round creme filled with thick icing (one maple,
    one chocolate) pastries. He also had a couple of probably 8" diameter "snails". I had about 4" of the maple pastry yesteray, about 6" of one section of the snail today, both for breakfast. Others will be consumed over the next couple of days.

    Watch out for sugar shock. Bv)=

    I had just under half of the chocolate one for breakfast today. Been
    trying to push protein at other meals to counteract the carbs.


    This looks really good but it will feed a crowd ....

    Title: Cinnamon Roll Breakfast Casserole
    Categories: Breads, Nuts, Dairy, Eggs
    Yield: 9 servings

    Probably last longer than 9 servings if I made it for Steve and me. I'd probably cut the recipe in half or maybe quarters so we wouldn't be
    eating it for a week. (G)


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun May 19 19:47:48 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Kids like to eat. That's a fact.

    And some of them can really pack away the food. My younger brother was
    one of them--from the time he started eating solid food, he would put
    away enough food to feed a grown man. He has slacked off some over the years but he could probably still eat more than Steve and me combined
    at any meal.

    We had a guy in our informal group who looked like a normal person but
    he must have been hollow. Once, at Lum's, there was an AYCE buffet set
    up and Trapper went for it. Several trips. Finally the owner's father
    came over and told him "Sign says 'All You Care To Eat' not Eat All
    Day!"

    Makes you wonder where he stowed it all. I used to get salad type stuff
    on one trip, then go back for entree and finish off with a small dessert
    plate. At the buffets we just went to, I combined the salad and entree
    trip, still ended up with probably half of what I used to get. Dessert
    was much smaller also.


    Some years ago I got into a fuss at a breakfast buffet with their egg mechanic (I refuse to call him a cook) over the Hollandaise with the
    Eggs Benedict .... not to mention that the "poached" eggs were cooked
    to the point that the yolks were "set".

    That's no cook.

    He told me "If you think you can do any better ..." and pointed me to
    the kitchen. I took him up on it and soon found what I needed and was
    just about finished when this female voice asked loudy "What ate you
    doing in my kitchen?!?!?" It was the restaurant manager.

    So I explained how it came to pass. As I took the pan from the hob she
    ran a finger through my sauce and popped it into her mouth. I nearly clocked her one upside the head. That finger was a definite no-no in
    any kitchen I have worked in - for pay or at home.

    Should have offered her a spoon. She should have known better; I'd probably not patronise that place again.

    Didn't get a chance. She was a grumpy agitated (several expletives
    axed) old trout.

    IOW, you wouldn't have liked cooking in an environment like that
    anyways.

    She removed the finger from her mouth and asked "You want a job?"
    Bv)=

    Not working for you, lady. (G)

    Inzactly, I do not suffer that sort of behaviour gladly.

    I don't either.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Tue May 21 05:23:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I did one of those "turn too short" deals with my car last year. I did
    the repair on the guy's pickup with a cloth and some cleaner/polish I
    had in the truck. But it co$t mt 1400 bux down the body shop to put
    the Beemer right.

    We're not sure how much this will cost. Steve did notify our insurance compaany but this is the second claim within a year so our rates will probably go up. Last time to the TX incident when a claim was made was December, 2016 and don't remember what before that.

    Insurance companies use a formula concocted by their bean coun ters to determine that. They'll know what each of your claims cost them and once
    the ratio of outgo to income hits a certain point will raise your cost
    to insure or invite you toseek coverage elsewhere.

    Sound like you're better off without it; I'd hate to think of how much money would have to be sunk into it to make it even basically road
    worthy.

    6 General (my preferred brand) 11R22.5 tires @ U$550/tire
    3 Deep Cycle Marine/RV batteries @ U$250

    Just to get started. That's not a money pit. It's a canyon. Bv)=

    A rather grand one at that.

    Quite so, you might be better off buying a new or a newer used if you really want to hhit the road.

    I'm not much on RV camping. If I were a NASCAR or jockstrap sports fan
    and travelled to out-of-town events I'd consider a motorhome or a nice Fifth-wheel tow along. But, as it is, motels or staying w/friends is my
    method. Or I could go back to my youth with a backpack and a bedroll &
    using my thumb for travel.


    Buffets can be a good thing or a hazard. With the reduction in
    capacity as I age out it's hard to get my "money's worth" at an AYCE place. If I eat too much I'm either miserable or so carb-loaded
    that all I want is a soft spot and a nap. Bv0=

    I try to go easy, with second buffet I asked for a piece of strawberry/rhubarb pie--to go. It was good, but not great.

    I noticed they finally put a "Coming Soon" sign on a major
    construction project - which I though from the design was to be a
    strip mall. Instead the sign proclaims "GRAND BUFFET" and opening
    soon. That sucker is literally a city block long. WOW!

    That is going to be a tough one to keep going. People will initially
    check it out but probably not want to frequent it very often, unless
    they don't cook for themselves. I could see my late brother taking advantage of it if he were living, and in that area.

    There is a sizable Chinese buffet a few bloks up the street from this
    new place which does a good business. And has senior price breaks. I
    sometimes have lunch with friends there (couple times per year) but I
    don't get carried away lest I get "carried away". Bv)=

    Still, sometimes on a weeked mnorning I'll hit the Golden Corral's AYCE breakfast and pig out on bacon and some really good cinnamon rolls -
    of course with hash-brown casserole, eggs, sausage gravy. etc. But,
    then I won't eat anything for the rest of the day .... uuually.

    Our Golden Corral closed, building became a ghost kitchen for several
    take out places.

    Our was closed during the pandemic. But they used to time to remodel
    and fix things up.

    We have one or two in Raleigh but haven't visited them. We liked them
    (and Western Sizzler) before they went to the buffet. Now the latter
    is, AFAIK, closed down completly, latter is dying fast.

    I miss the Western Sizzlin we used to have here. I think the owner(s) took retirement and sold the franchise - because it went downhill abruptly. It
    (the building) was several other "concepts" before being razed and a drive through car wash established.

    I couldn't eat, these days, what used to be my favourite order - the
    "Trucker's Cut" sirloin.

    8<----- CLIP ----->8

    This looks really good but it will feed a crowd ....

    Title: Cinnamon Roll Breakfast Casserole
    Categories: Breads, Nuts, Dairy, Eggs
    Yield: 9 servings

    Probably last longer than 9 servings if I made it for Steve and me. I'd probably cut the recipe in half or maybe quarters so we wouldn't be
    eating it for a week. (G)

    Or make it for one of yur churchy functions.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Church Potluck Jello Salad
    Categories: Cheese, Nuts, Dairy, Candy, Fruits
    Yield: 7 Servings

    3 oz Box lime jello
    3 oz Box lemon jello
    2 c Boiling water
    6 oz Cream cheese
    1 lb Small curd cottage cheese
    1 c Mayonnaise(not Miracle Wimp)
    14 oz Can Eagle Brand condensed
    - milk
    15 oz Can crushed pineapple
    1 c Chopped walnuts
    10 oz Bag Kraft mini marshmallows

    Dissolve both boxes jello with boiling water.

    Add remaining ingredients, mixing well after each
    addition. Put into mold or other container and chill
    for several hours until completely set.

    Serves: 6 - 8

    RECIPE FROM: Helen E. Moore's recipe box

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue May 21 11:41:46 2024
    Hi Dave,

    the repair on the guy's pickup with a cloth and some cleaner/polish I
    had in the truck. But it co$t mt 1400 bux down the body shop to put
    the Beemer right.

    We're not sure how much this will cost. Steve did notify our insurance compaany but this is the second claim within a year so our rates will probably go up. Last time to the TX incident when a claim was made was December, 2016 and don't remember what before that.

    Insurance companies use a formula concocted by their bean coun ters to determine that. They'll know what each of your claims cost them and
    once the ratio of outgo to income hits a certain point will raise your cost to insure or invite you toseek coverage elsewhere.

    We bundle our homeowner's insurance with the vehicle insurance, got a
    better rate with this company when we took out our morgage. They tried switching us to another company once, without notifying us and at a
    higher rate--Steve called them and got them to restore the original plan
    and rate.


    6 General (my preferred brand) 11R22.5 tires @ U$550/tire
    3 Deep Cycle Marine/RV batteries @ U$250

    Just to get started. That's not a money pit. It's a canyon. Bv)=

    A rather grand one at that.

    Quite so, you might be better off buying a new or a newer used if you really want to hhit the road.

    I'm not much on RV camping. If I were a NASCAR or jockstrap sports fan
    and travelled to out-of-town events I'd consider a motorhome or a nice Fifth-wheel tow along. But, as it is, motels or staying w/friends is
    my method. Or I could go back to my youth with a backpack and a
    bedroll & using my thumb for travel.

    We have a tow behind but it's not a 5th wheel. This one has no slide
    out; the R-Pod did.


    I noticed they finally put a "Coming Soon" sign on a major
    construction project - which I though from the design was to be a
    strip mall. Instead the sign proclaims "GRAND BUFFET" and opening
    soon. That sucker is literally a city block long. WOW!

    That is going to be a tough one to keep going. People will initially
    check it out but probably not want to frequent it very often, unless
    they don't cook for themselves. I could see my late brother taking advantage of it if he were living, and in that area.

    There is a sizable Chinese buffet a few bloks up the street from this
    new place which does a good business. And has senior price breaks. I sometimes have lunch with friends there (couple times per year) but I don't get carried away lest I get "carried away". Bv)=

    I've been to some good sized Chinese buffets; my MIL likes them. But, as
    with a "regular" buffet, I try to eat reasonably. When we did our first
    cruise, we discovered the top deck buffet so had most of our breakfasts
    and lunches up there, have continued the pattern (but doing just about
    all breakfasts and lunches) with subsequent cruises. There's a lot to
    choose from but I always make a reasonable plate so I can afford to
    enjoy a dessert. I can see where people would gain weight on cruises
    with all the food offered but I've never done so.


    Still, sometimes on a weeked mnorning I'll hit the Golden Corral's AYCE then I won't eat anything for the rest of the day .... uuually.

    Our Golden Corral closed, building became a ghost kitchen for several
    take out places.

    Our was closed during the pandemic. But they used to time to remodel
    and fix things up.

    We have one or two in Raleigh but haven't visited them. We liked them
    (and Western Sizzler) before they went to the buffet. Now the latter
    is, AFAIK, closed down completly, latter is dying fast.

    I miss the Western Sizzlin we used to have here. I think the owner(s)
    took retirement and sold the franchise - because it went downhill abruptly. It (the building) was several other "concepts" before being razed and a drive through car wash established.

    There was one in Sierra Vista, AZ when we were stationed at Fort
    Huachuca but don't recall (from subsequent visits to town) if it's still
    going or not. There was one in Jacksonville, NC when we first got
    married that we visited a number of times. First time after we got
    married, the manager took our ticket & paid for our meal--sweet.

    I couldn't eat, these days, what used to be my favourite order - the "Trucker's Cut" sirloin.

    If I get a larger cut, I'll eat half and bring the other half home
    (usually with half a baked potato) for another meal.

    This looks really good but it will feed a crowd ....

    Title: Cinnamon Roll Breakfast Casserole
    Categories: Breads, Nuts, Dairy, Eggs
    Yield: 9 servings

    Probably last longer than 9 servings if I made it for Steve and me. I'd probably cut the recipe in half or maybe quarters so we wouldn't be
    eating it for a week. (G)

    Or make it for one of yur churchy functions.

    We had a taco salad bar this past Sunday. Hadn't expected to be home for
    it but were, since we cut the trip short. Nice to be able to catch up
    with a lot of folks in one meal time.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Thu May 23 07:06:54 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    the repair on the guy's pickup with a cloth and some cleaner/polish I
    had in the truck. But it co$t mt 1400 bux down the body shop to put
    the Beemer right.

    We're not sure how much this will cost. Steve did notify our insurance compaany but this is the second claim within a year so our rates will probably go up. Last time to the TX incident when a claim was made was December, 2016 and don't remember what before that.

    Insurance companies use a formula concocted by their bean coun ters to determine that. They'll know what each of your claims cost them and
    once the ratio of outgo to income hits a certain point will raise your cost to insure or invite you toseek coverage elsewhere.

    We bundle our homeowner's insurance with the vehicle insurance, got a better rate with this company when we took out our morgage. They tried switching us to another company once, without notifying us and at a
    higher rate--Steve called them and got them to restore the original
    plan and rate.

    I bundle my home owner's and vehicle insurance, too.

    I'm not much on RV camping. If I were a NASCAR or jockstrap sports fan
    and travelled to out-of-town events I'd consider a motorhome or a nice Fifth-wheel tow along. But, as it is, motels or staying w/friends is
    my method. Or I could go back to my youth with a backpack and a
    bedroll & using my thumb for travel.

    We have a tow behind but it's not a 5th wheel. This one has no slide
    out; the R-Pod did.

    My take on those slide-outs is the same as my take on sun roofs in cars.
    There ae two kinds. Those that leak. And thos that are going to leak.

    I noticed they finally put a "Coming Soon" sign on a major
    construction project - which I though from the design was to be a
    strip mall. Instead the sign proclaims "GRAND BUFFET" and opening
    soon. That sucker is literally a city block long. WOW!

    That is going to be a tough one to keep going. People will initially
    check it out but probably not want to frequent it very often, unless
    they don't cook for themselves. I could see my late brother taking advantage of it if he were living, and in that area.

    There is a sizable Chinese buffet a few bloks up the street from this
    new place which does a good business. And has senior price breaks. I sometimes have lunch with friends there (couple times per year) but I don't get carried away lest I get "carried away". Bv)=

    I've been to some good sized Chinese buffets; my MIL likes them. But,
    as with a "regular" buffet, I try to eat reasonably. When we did our
    first cruise, we discovered the top deck buffet so had most of our breakfasts and lunches up there, have continued the pattern (but doing just about all breakfasts and lunches) with subsequent cruises. There's
    a lot to choose from but I always make a reasonable plate so I can
    afford to enjoy a dessert. I can see where people would gain weight on cruises with all the food offered but I've never done so.

    Maybe it's a part of getting nearer to my century (18 more years) but I'm pretty much down to 2 meals per day. Breakfast (eggs, meat, taters, toast)
    and either a late lunch or early supper. My pants have loosened up to the point that I'm glad I use suspenders rather than a belt.

    8<----- GONE ----->8

    This looks really good but it will feed a crowd ....

    Title: Cinnamon Roll Breakfast Casserole
    Categories: Breads, Nuts, Dairy, Eggs
    Yield: 9 servings

    Probably last longer than 9 servings if I made it for Steve and me. I'd probably cut the recipe in half or maybe quarters so we wouldn't be
    eating it for a week. (G)

    Or make it for one of yur churchy functions.

    We had a taco salad bar this past Sunday. Hadn't expected to be home
    for it but were, since we cut the trip short. Nice to be able to catch
    up with a lot of folks in one meal time.

    That's what my Sunday breakfasts are for. We pick a different venue
    each week. Used to do a weekly lunch too but so many former attendees
    have fallen off their twigs that it's down to just me and one other
    guy ... and we almost lost him a bit ago. Until his son, who is retired
    from a career as a cardiac nurse flew in for a visit and straightened
    Les' doctor out on a few things. Les is doing *much* better these days.
    Better enough the Charlie went back home to Boston.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Boston Bluefish Casserole
    Categories: Seafood, Pasta, Dairy, Cheese, Breads
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 1/2 lb Boston Bluefish (pollock)
    - filets; or other fish
    1/4 lb Dry noodles
    3 c Whole milk
    2 tb Butter
    1/2 ts Salt
    1/4 ts Pepper
    1/4 ts Paprika
    2 tb Flour
    4 oz Cheese; grated
    1/2 ts Worcestershire sauce
    1 tb Lemon juice
    2 c Soft bread crumbs

    Thaw fish. Cook in salted water 15 minutes. Drain and
    flake. Cook noodles until tender. Drain.

    Make white sauce, using half the cheese, lemon juice,
    and Worcestershire. Combine with flaked fish and the
    drained noodles. Pour into a 9" X 11" X 2 1/2" pan.
    Combine remaining cheese and bread crumbs. Sprinkle over
    top. Bake in a slow oven (325ºF/163ºC) for 1 hour.

    Serve with a crisp salad and French bread or marinated
    vegetables and crusty rolls.

    Serves 6

    RECIPE FROM: The Taste of Gloucester; A Fisherman's Wife
    Cooks - Written and complied by The Fishermen's Wives of
    Gloucester & The Cape Ann League of Women Voters

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu May 23 12:26:22 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Insurance companies use a formula concocted by their bean coun ters to determine that. They'll know what each of your claims cost them and
    once the ratio of outgo to income hits a certain point will raise your cost to insure or invite you toseek coverage elsewhere.

    We bundle our homeowner's insurance with the vehicle insurance, got a better rate with this company when we took out our morgage. They tried switching us to another company once, without notifying us and at a
    higher rate--Steve called them and got them to restore the original
    plan and rate.

    I bundle my home owner's and vehicle insurance, too.

    Gives you a better rate on both that way. When we bought the house, the raltor's office dealt with this company for mortgage insurance. We
    checked it out for the car, cheaper than what we had and switched.
    They've worked well for us the past (almost) 10 years.


    I'm not much on RV camping. If I were a NASCAR or jockstrap sports fan
    and travelled to out-of-town events I'd consider a motorhome or a nice Fifth-wheel tow along. But, as it is, motels or staying w/friends is

    We have a tow behind but it's not a 5th wheel. This one has no slide
    out; the R-Pod did.

    My take on those slide-outs is the same as my take on sun roofs in
    cars. There ae two kinds. Those that leak. And thos that are going to leak.

    We had a bit of leak trouble with the slide out, but not much and easily
    fixed. The latest "incident" happened on what would have been the slide
    out side, glad we don't have one on this camper or damage would have
    been a lot worse.


    There is a sizable Chinese buffet a few bloks up the street from this
    new place which does a good business. And has senior price breaks. I sometimes have lunch with friends there (couple times per year) but I don't get carried away lest I get "carried away". Bv)=

    I've been to some good sized Chinese buffets; my MIL likes them. But,
    as with a "regular" buffet, I try to eat reasonably. When we did our
    first cruise, we discovered the top deck buffet so had most of our breakfasts and lunches up there, have continued the pattern (but doing just about all breakfasts and lunches) with subsequent cruises. There's
    a lot to choose from but I always make a reasonable plate so I can
    afford to enjoy a dessert. I can see where people would gain weight on cruises with all the food offered but I've never done so.

    Maybe it's a part of getting nearer to my century (18 more years) but
    I'm pretty much down to 2 meals per day. Breakfast (eggs, meat,
    taters, toast) and either a late lunch or early supper. My pants have loosened up to the point that I'm glad I use suspenders rather than a belt.

    I usually go for light breakfast and lunch, a bit more (but not a huge
    meal) for supper. Talked to my MIL yesterday for her birthday; Steve's
    brother took her out for Chinese. (G)

    8<----- GONE ----->8

    This looks really good but it will feed a crowd ....

    Title: Cinnamon Roll Breakfast Casserole
    Categories: Breads, Nuts, Dairy, Eggs
    Yield: 9 servings

    Probably last longer than 9 servings if I made it for Steve and me. I'd probably cut the recipe in half or maybe quarters so we wouldn't be
    eating it for a week. (G)

    Or make it for one of yur churchy functions.

    We had a taco salad bar this past Sunday. Hadn't expected to be home
    for it but were, since we cut the trip short. Nice to be able to catch
    up with a lot of folks in one meal time.

    That's what my Sunday breakfasts are for. We pick a different venue
    each week. Used to do a weekly lunch too but so many former attendees
    have fallen off their twigs that it's down to just me and one other
    guy ... and we almost lost him a bit ago. Until his son, who is
    retired from a career as a cardiac nurse flew in for a visit and straightened
    Les' doctor out on a few things. Les is doing *much* better these
    days. Better enough the Charlie went back home to Boston.

    Having a nurse in the family is good; Steve's younger sister is one.

    At church we're doing a quarterly lunch as well as pastries and suchlike
    before each service. The staff calls it "Breakfast in the Basement" but
    it's more like a continental than a full on breakfast.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat May 25 06:38:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    We bundle our homeowner's insurance with the vehicle insurance, got a better rate with this company when we took out our morgage. They tried switching us to another company once, without notifying us and at a
    higher rate--Steve called them and got them to restore the original
    plan and rate.

    I bundle my home owner's and vehicle insurance, too.

    Gives you a better rate on both that way. When we bought the house, the raltor's office dealt with this company for mortgage insurance. We
    checked it out for the car, cheaper than what we had and switched.
    They've worked well for us the past (almost) 10 years.

    I got fired by Erie Insurance last year for an unknown (to both me and
    and my agent) reason. So, scroom. I'm thinking of going back to local
    company, Pekin Insurance. I left them for Erie when I bought the Chevy
    HHR and they wanted an obscene amount of money to insure it. They're
    much more reasonable on my Beemer and the house.

    8<----- OUT ----->8

    Maybe it's a part of getting nearer to my century (18 more years)
    but I'm pretty much down to 2 meals per day. Breakfast (eggs, meat, taters, toast) and either a late lunch or early supper. My pants
    have loosened up to the point that I'm glad I use suspenders rather
    than a belt.

    I usually go for light breakfast and lunch, a bit more (but not a
    huge meal) for supper. Talked to my MIL yesterday for her birthday; Steve's brother took her out for Chinese. (G)

    I'm down on both frequency and amounts. Hence the need for galluses.

    BTW - I recommend Healthy Choice frozen steamers when you don't feel
    like cooking. They come in various sizes and were recommended to mr by
    a registered dietician at my doctor's office. I had the Sweet & Sour
    Chicken made with "riced" cauliflower for supper last night. Nice and
    not overly filling.

    8<----- GONE ----->8

    That's what my Sunday breakfasts are for. We pick a different venue
    each week. Used to do a weekly lunch too but so many former attendees
    have fallen off their twigs that it's down to just me and one other
    guy ... and we almost lost him a bit ago. Until his son, who is
    retired from a career as a cardiac nurse flew in for a visit and straightened Les' doctor out on a few things. Les is doing *much*
    better these days. Better enough the Charlie went back home to Boston.

    Having a nurse in the family is good; Steve's younger sister is one.

    My favourite boss went into that field. She's now catching babies at a
    local hospital's labour & delivery department. I texted her to let her
    know that the main reason she left AutoZone had quit to seek greener
    pastures.

    At church we're doing a quarterly lunch as well as pastries and
    suchlike before each service. The staff calls it "Breakfast in the Basement" but it's more like a continental than a full on breakfast.

    When I was churching food/meals were for after services. There was quite
    the spread every Sunday in the parish hall.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Quarter-Hour Sweet-n-Sour
    Categories: Poultry, Rice, Vegetables
    Yield: 4 Servings

    2 tb Vegetable oil
    10 oz Frozen chicken breast chunks
    - breaded
    16 oz Frozen vegetable mixture;
    - broccoli, red peppers,
    - bamboo shoots, mushrooms
    2 c Cooked rice
    1/2 c Sweet & sour sauce
    1/2 ts Salt

    Cook chicken in hot oil in large skillet over med-high
    heat 5 to 7 minutes, turning once. Remove from pan;
    drain on paper towels.

    Stir in vegetables and cook 2 to 3 minutes. Stir in
    rice, chicken, sauce, and salt.

    Cook until thoroughly heated, about 2 to 3 minutes.

    Source: Rice the Timely Ingredient

    Reprinted with permission from The USA Rice Council

    Electronic format courtesy of Karen Mintzias

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat May 25 15:21:02 2024
    Hi Dave,

    switching us to another company once, without notifying us and at a
    higher rate--Steve called them and got them to restore the original
    plan and rate.

    I bundle my home owner's and vehicle insurance, too.

    Gives you a better rate on both that way. When we bought the house, the realtor's office dealt with this company for mortgage insurance. We checked it out for the car, cheaper than what we had and switched.
    They've worked well for us the past (almost) 10 years.

    I got fired by Erie Insurance last year for an unknown (to both me and
    and my agent) reason. So, scroom. I'm thinking of going back to local company, Pekin Insurance. I left them for Erie when I bought the Chevy
    HHR and they wanted an obscene amount of money to insure it. They're
    much more reasonable on my Beemer and the house.

    We've had a number of different carriers over the years and moves. Steve
    had Allstate when we first got married; the agent was in a Sears store.
    Had to go with a German company while we were over there and have had
    others. Had renter's insurance for many years, finally got homeowner's insurance 10 years ago when we bought the house.


    Maybe it's a part of getting nearer to my century (18 more years)
    but I'm pretty much down to 2 meals per day. Breakfast (eggs, meat, taters, toast) and either a late lunch or early supper. My pants
    have loosened up to the point that I'm glad I use suspenders rather
    than a belt.

    I usually go for light breakfast and lunch, a bit more (but not a
    huge meal) for supper. Talked to my MIL yesterday for her birthday; Steve's brother took her out for Chinese. (G)

    I'm down on both frequency and amounts. Hence the need for galluses.

    Whatever works to hold them up. Steve tried suspenders for a bit but
    went back to belts--just didn't feel comfortable with the braces.


    BTW - I recommend Healthy Choice frozen steamers when you don't feel
    like cooking. They come in various sizes and were recommended to mr by
    a registered dietician at my doctor's office. I had the Sweet & Sour Chicken made with "riced" cauliflower for supper last night. Nice and
    not overly filling.

    Have to take a look at them and see what's in them. Usually we've got
    enough stuff on hand that if I don't feel like cooking, a meal can be
    assembled with bits and pieces of this and that.

    8<----- GONE ----->8

    That's what my Sunday breakfasts are for. We pick a different venue
    each week. Used to do a weekly lunch too but so many former attendees
    have fallen off their twigs that it's down to just me and one other
    guy ... and we almost lost him a bit ago. Until his son, who is
    retired from a career as a cardiac nurse flew in for a visit and straightened Les' doctor out on a few things. Les is doing *much*
    better these days. Better enough the Charlie went back home to Boston.

    Having a nurse in the family is good; Steve's younger sister is one.

    My favourite boss went into that field. She's now catching babies at a local hospital's labour & delivery department. I texted her to let her know that the main reason she left AutoZone had quit to seek greener pastures.

    One of my friends worked in labor and delivery for years. A couple of
    years ago she switched departments but I think she wants to go back to
    labor and delivery--something about seeing a new life come into the world...............

    At church we're doing a quarterly lunch as well as pastries and RH>
    suchlike before each service. The staff calls it "Breakfast in the RH>
    Basement" but it's more like a continental than a full on breakfast.

    When I was churching food/meals were for after services. There was
    quite the spread every Sunday in the parish hall.

    The church I attended growing up had a coffee hour after service
    starting about the time I went to college. My parents usually didn't
    stay for it except when I'd come home so I could catch up with people.
    After I got married, they pretty much stopped going to church at all.
    Various churches we've been members of, in various places, have had
    various food related get togethers. In HI we shared the building with a Philippino congregation so every so often Steve and I met with them--and
    would be invited to join them for lunch afterward. Got to try some
    interesting dishes but one thing Steve found he didn't
    like--bittermelon. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Mon May 27 05:59:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I got fired by Erie Insurance last year for an unknown (to both me and
    and my agent) reason. So, scroom. I'm thinking of going back to local company, Pekin Insurance. I left them for Erie when I bought the Chevy
    HHR and they wanted an obscene amount of money to insure it. They're
    much more reasonable on my Beemer and the house.

    We've had a number of different carriers over the years and moves.
    Steve had Allstate when we first got married; the agent was in a Sears store. Had to go with a German company while we were over there and
    have had others. Had renter's insurance for many years, finally got homeowner's insurance 10 years ago when we bought the house.

    As have I. Never had renter's insurance, though.

    Maybe it's a part of getting nearer to my century (18 more years)
    but I'm pretty much down to 2 meals per day. Breakfast (eggs, meat, taters, toast) and either a late lunch or early supper. My pants
    have loosened up to the point that I'm glad I use suspenders rather
    than a belt.

    I usually go for light breakfast and lunch, a bit more (but not a
    huge meal) for supper. Talked to my MIL yesterday for her birthday; Steve's brother took her out for Chinese. (G)

    I'm down on both frequency and amounts. Hence the need for galluses.

    Whatever works to hold them up. Steve tried suspenders for a bit but
    went back to belts--just didn't feel comfortable with the braces.

    They're not for everyone. I still have some belts - but it's been years (literally) since one has been around my waist.

    BTW - I recommend Healthy Choice frozen steamers when you don't feel
    like cooking. They come in various sizes and were recommended to mr by
    a registered dietician at my doctor's office. I had the Sweet & Sour Chicken made with "riced" cauliflower for supper last night. Nice and
    not overly filling.

    Have to take a look at them and see what's in them. Usually we've got enough stuff on hand that if I don't feel like cooking, a meal can be assembled with bits and pieces of this and that.

    One of my favourites (which I first picked up by mistake) is Chicken
    Linguini With Red Pepper Alfredo. Here's the ingredients:

    Cooked Pasta, Water, Enriched Wheat Flour: (Durum Wheat Semolina, Niacin' Ferrous Sulfate {Iron}, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid)
    Soybean Oil, Egg White, Broccoli, Cooked Chicken: (Chicken Breast, Water,
    Olive Oil),

    Contains 2% or Less of: Isolated Soy Protein Product: (Isolated Soy
    Protein, Modified Potato Starch, Corn Starch, Carrageenan, Soy Lecithin), Dextrose,, Potassium Chloride, Salt, Sodium Phosphates. Flavoring
    Water,

    Red Bell Peppers & Puree: (Red Bell Peppers, Sugar, Salt), Parmesan Cheese (Part Skim Milk, Cheese Culture, Salt, Enzymes)

    Contains 2% or Less of: Modified Corn Starch, Soybean Oil, Nonfat Dry Milk
    Red Pepper Sauce, Salt, Flavorings, Xanthan Gum, Guar Gum, Distilled Vinegar Red Pepper, Salt

    That's quite a list. But I don't see any no-no stuff like HFCS, etc in there. And it is tasty. Bv)=

    8<----- GONE ----->8

    That's what my Sunday breakfasts are for. We pick a different venue
    each week. Used to do a weekly lunch too but so many former attendees
    have fallen off their twigs that it's down to just me and one other
    guy ... and we almost lost him a bit ago. Until his son, who is
    retired from a career as a cardiac nurse flew in for a visit and straightened Les' doctor out on a few things. Les is doing *much*
    better these days. Better enough the Charlie went back home to Boston.

    Having a nurse in the family is good; Steve's younger sister is one.

    My favourite boss went into that field. She's now catching babies at a local hospital's labour & delivery department. I texted her to let her know that the main reason she left AutoZone had quit to seek greener pastures.

    One of my friends worked in labor and delivery for years. A couple of years ago she switched departments but I think she wants to go back to labor and delivery--something about seeing a new life come into the world...............

    I don't think Misty will come back to AZ.

    At church we're doing a quarterly lunch as well as pastries and RH>
    suchlike before each service. The staff calls it "Breakfast in the RH>
    Basement" but it's more like a continental than a full on breakfast.

    When I was churching food/meals were for after services. There was
    quite the spread every Sunday in the parish hall.

    The church I attended growing up had a coffee hour after service
    starting about the time I went to college. My parents usually didn't
    stay for it except when I'd come home so I could catch up with people. After I got married, they pretty much stopped going to church at all. Various churches we've been members of, in various places, have had various food related get togethers. In HI we shared the building with a Philippino congregation so every so often Steve and I met with
    them--and would be invited to join them for lunch afterward. Got to try some interesting dishes but one thing Steve found he didn't like--bittermelon. (G)

    Never, to my knowledge, had bitter melon. I assume it lives up to its
    name.

    My favourite melon is muskmelon. At least once a week I nip in to
    Humphrey's for a half pound of chicken livers and a container of
    pre-cut muskmelon to take home and make into lunch.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Iris' Fried Chicken Livers
    Categories: Poultry, Dairy, Breads, Chilies
    Yield: 2 Servings

    1 lb Chcken livers
    1 1/2 c Buttermilk; divided
    1 c All purpose flour
    1 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Cayenne pepper
    2 1/2 c Saltine cracker crumbs; fine
    - ground
    Oil for frying
    2 lg Eggs; beaten

    Soak chicken livers in 1/2 cup buttermilk for 1 hour.
    drain and rinse. Season with salt and pepper.

    In large plastic Ziploc bag, mix flour, salt, pepper,
    and cayenne. Put livers in bag and shake to coat.

    Mix eggs with 1 cup of buttermilk, put saltines in
    separate bag. Dip floured liver in eggs and then coat
    liver in saltine bag. coat and dredge all livers.

    In large skillet, heat oil, on medium heat. Cook livers
    for 5 minutes. turning once. drain on paper towels serve
    hot.

    By Iris NcCall

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.justapinch.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon May 27 13:37:59 2024
    Hi Dave,

    We've had a number of different carriers over the years and moves.
    Steve had Allstate when we first got married; the agent was in a Sears store. Had to go with a German company while we were over there and
    have had others. Had renter's insurance for many years, finally got homeowner's insurance 10 years ago when we bought the house.

    As have I. Never had renter's insurance, though.

    We have a number of higher value things we'd like to have insured. Had
    to make a claim on it when we had the break in back in 2013 but they
    didn't pay what the jewelery was worth as a number of the older pieces
    hadn't been appraised.


    Whatever works to hold them up. Steve tried suspenders for a bit but
    went back to belts--just didn't feel comfortable with the braces.

    They're not for everyone. I still have some belts - but it's been
    years (literally) since one has been around my waist.

    I wear one quite often--if the pants have belt loops, it's a "must".


    BTW - I recommend Healthy Choice frozen steamers when you don't feel
    like cooking. They come in various sizes and were recommended to mr by
    a registered dietician at my doctor's office. I had the Sweet & Sour Chicken made with "riced" cauliflower for supper last night. Nice and
    not overly filling.

    Have to take a look at them and see what's in them. Usually we've got enough stuff on hand that if I don't feel like cooking, a meal can be assembled with bits and pieces of this and that.

    One of my favourites (which I first picked up by mistake) is Chicken Linguini With Red Pepper Alfredo. Here's the ingredients:

    Contains 2% or Less of: Modified Corn Starch, Soybean Oil, Nonfat Dry
    Milk Red Pepper Sauce, Salt, Flavorings, Xanthan Gum, Guar Gum,
    Distilled Vinegar Red Pepper, Salt

    That's quite a list. But I don't see any no-no stuff like HFCS, etc in there. And it is tasty. Bv)=

    Have to see what Steve thinks of it. Generally tho, I have enough odds
    and ends of stuff in the freezer, fridge and pantry that a no fuss meal
    is easy to put together. I always have eggs on hand, both raw and
    steamed; bread; fresh and/or frozen vegetables............... a lot can
    be done with a bit of this and that.


    My favourite boss went into that field. She's now catching babies at a local hospital's labour & delivery department. I texted her to let her know that the main reason she left AutoZone had quit to seek greener pastures.

    One of my friends worked in labor and delivery for years. A couple of years ago she switched departments but I think she wants to go back to labor and delivery--something about seeing a new life come into the world...............

    I don't think Misty will come back to AZ.

    Sigh! Small chance of seeing her now probably.


    At church we're doing a quarterly lunch as well as pastries and RH>
    suchlike before each service. The staff calls it "Breakfast in the RH>
    Basement" but it's more like a continental than a full on breakfast.

    When I was churching food/meals were for after services. There was
    quite the spread every Sunday in the parish hall.

    The church I attended growing up had a coffee hour after service
    starting about the time I went to college. My parents usually didn't
    stay for it except when I'd come home so I could catch up with people. After I got married, they pretty much stopped going to church at all. Various churches we've been members of, in various places, have had various food related get togethers. In HI we shared the building with a Philippino congregation so every so often Steve and I met with
    them--and would be invited to join them for lunch afterward. Got to try some interesting dishes but one thing Steve found he didn't like--bittermelon. (G)

    Never, to my knowledge, had bitter melon. I assume it lives up to its name.

    Very much so. When we were over there, saw an ad for the local grocery store--guy looking all over the produce section. Finally stocker boy
    asks if he can help, guy says "my wife sent me to buy bitter melon, how
    can you tell if a melon is bitter? Stocker takes him over to proper
    display and says something on the order of "bittermelon, not bitter
    melon". I like it in small amounts but, like cilatro, it reaches a
    certain point and I've had enough, even tho some might still be in
    whatever I'm eating.


    My favourite melon is muskmelon. At least once a week I nip in to Humphrey's for a half pound of chicken livers and a container of


    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon May 27 13:52:48 2024
    Hi Dave,

    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<

    pre-cut muskmelon to take home and make into lunch.

    OTOH, we'll buy the whole melon and cut it up ourselves.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Wed May 29 07:42:34 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    As have I. Never had renter's insurance, though.

    We have a number of higher value things we'd like to have insured. Had
    to make a claim on it when we had the break in back in 2013 but they didn't pay what the jewelery was worth as a number of the older pieces hadn't been appraised.

    Never had a break-in. (touches wood) But currently if someone intrudes
    on my home the 3 pooches (including a pit bull mix who is *very*
    territorial) would shred their hindquarters for them.

    Whatever works to hold them up. Steve tried suspenders for a bit but
    went back to belts--just didn't feel comfortable with the braces.

    They're not for everyone. I still have some belts - but it's been
    years (literally) since one has been around my waist.

    I wear one quite often--if the pants have belt loops, it's a "must".

    Personal choice.

    BTW - I recommend Healthy Choice frozen steamers when you don't feel
    like cooking. They come in various sizes and were recommended to mr by
    a registered dietician at my doctor's office. I had the Sweet & Sour Chicken made with "riced" cauliflower for supper last night. Nice and
    not overly filling.

    Have to take a look at them and see what's in them. Usually we've got enough stuff on hand that if I don't feel like cooking, a meal can be assembled with bits and pieces of this and that.

    One of my favourites (which I first picked up by mistake) is Chicken Linguini With Red Pepper Alfredo. Here's the ingredients:

    Contains 2% or Less of: Modified Corn Starch, Soybean Oil, Nonfat Dry
    Milk Red Pepper Sauce, Salt, Flavorings, Xanthan Gum, Guar Gum,
    Distilled Vinegar Red Pepper, Salt

    That's quite a list. But I don't see any no-no stuff like HFCS, etc in there. And it is tasty. Bv)=

    Have to see what Steve thinks of it. Generally tho, I have enough odds
    and ends of stuff in the freezer, fridge and pantry that a no fuss meal
    is easy to put together. I always have eggs on hand, both raw and
    steamed; bread; fresh and/or frozen vegetables............... a lot can
    be done with a bit of this and that.

    It's a matter of convenience. If I'm banging recipes into the Meal Muncher,
    or otherwise occupied I can toss a Healthy Choice into the nuker for six minutes - et voila' - supper. And Jasper or Izzy (K9 dishwashers) will pre
    wash the dish.

    My favourite boss went into that field. She's now catching babies at a local hospital's labour & delivery department. I texted her to let her know that the main reason she left AutoZone had quit to seek greener pastures.

    One of my friends worked in labor and delivery for years. A couple of years ago she switched departments but I think she wants to go back to labor and delivery--something about seeing a new life come into the world...............

    I don't think Misty will come back to AZ.

    Sigh! Small chance of seeing her now probably.

    I keep her updated on the goings-on at the Zone. One of her favourite
    District Managers has returned to this area to replace a manager she
    didn't care much for.

    Too bad she's married (to a nice guy). I once told her that if I were
    even 30years younger and she wasn't already taken .......

    8<----- YOU KNOW ----->8

    Never, to my knowledge, had bitter melon. I assume it lives up to its name.

    Very much so. When we were over there, saw an ad for the local grocery store--guy looking all over the produce section. Finally stocker boy
    asks if he can help, guy says "my wife sent me to buy bitter melon, how can you tell if a melon is bitter? Stocker takes him over to proper display and says something on the order of "bittermelon, not bitter melon". I like it in small amounts but, like cilatro, it reaches a
    certain point and I've had enough, even tho some might still be in whatever I'm eating.

    I'll take your word for it.

    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

    After I bang in a recipe:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Bitter Melon Soup w/Pork Bones
    Categories: Pork, Grains, Fruits, Herbs
    Yield: 6 servingd

    2 oz Pearl barley; soaked
    1 1/2 lb Meaty pork bones
    3 Dried red dates
    8 c Water
    4 sl Ginger; 1" long X 1/8" thick
    12 oz Bittermelon (1 lg melon)
    Salt
    MSG; opt

    Soak the pearl barley for at least 2 hours or overnight.
    Drain and set aside. Also soak the pork bones in cold
    water for 1-2 hours to purge them of impurities,
    changing the water once halfway through.

    Rinse the pork bones clean, using your hands to scrub
    them of any impurities and bone spurs. Transfer to a
    deep stock pot with just enough water to submerge them.
    Bring to a boil, and boil for 1 minute. Remove from the
    heat, rinse the pork bones clean, discard the water, and
    rinse the soup pot clean.

    Add the pork bones back to the stock pot, along with
    soaked barley, dates, 8 cups water and the ginger
    slices. Set over high heat, and bring to a boil. Once
    boiling, immediately turn the heat down to medium low,
    cover, and simmer for 2 hours.

    While the soup is simmering, slice the bitter melon in
    half lengthwise. Use a spoon to scoop out the seeds and
    scrape away all of the white pith, which can be
    particularly bitter. Cut each half into large chunks.
    Set aside.

    After 2 hours of simmering, skim the fat off the surface
    of the soup. Add the bitter melon, cover, and simmer for
    another 30 minutes. Add salt to taste before serving
    (you can also add MSG for extra oomph if desired—this is
    completely optional!). Serve with light soy sauce to dip
    the tender pork ribs into.

    RECIPE FROM: https://thewoksoflife.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Wed May 29 07:44:17 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<

    pre-cut muskmelon to take home and make into lunch.

    OTOH, we'll buy the whole melon and cut it up ourselves.

    As do I sometimes. But I'm more likely to just slice it down the middle,
    scoop out the seeds and attack one half with a spoon until there is
    nothing left but the rind.

    Or fill the seed cavity with a mound of chicken salad - then proceed
    as above.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cantaloupe w/Chicken Salad
    Categories: Poultry, Fruits, Vegetables, Nuts
    Yield: 6 Servings

    3 Cantaloupes; halved seeded

    MMMMM--------------------------CHICKEN-------------------------------
    2 c Cubed cooked chicken
    1 1/2 c To 2 C Fresh blueberries
    1/2 c Sliced almonds
    1 c Sliced celery
    1 c Seedless green grapes;
    - halved

    MMMMM--------------------------DRESSING-------------------------------
    1/2 c Mayonnaise
    1/4 c Sour cream
    1 tb Fresh lemon juice
    1 1/2 ts Grated lemon peel
    1 1/2 ts Sugar
    1/2 ts Ground ginger
    1/4 ts Salt (opt)

    In a large bowl, combine chicken, blueberries, celery,
    grapes and almonds.

    In a small bowl, mix dressing ingredients. Pour over the
    chicken mixture and toss gently.

    Spoon into cantaloupe halves.

    Serves 6

    SOURCE: Country Magazine; June/July 1994

    POSTED BY: Jim Bodle 5/94

    Recipe from: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed May 29 20:14:36 2024
    Hi Dave,


    As have I. Never had renter's insurance, though.

    We have a number of higher value things we'd like to have insured. Had
    to make a claim on it when we had the break in back in 2013 but they didn't pay what the jewelery was worth as a number of the older pieces hadn't been appraised.

    Never had a break-in. (touches wood) But currently if someone intrudes
    on my home the 3 pooches (including a pit bull mix who is *very* territorial) would shred their hindquarters for them.

    We blame it on the local post office--we'd put in a mail hold; they
    claim they never got it due to a computer glitch. We went away and a
    package was left at the front door, mail jammed into the box, all
    advertising nobody home. Lost a couple of family heirloom pieces plus
    some one of a kind pieces from Israel and a lot of inexpensive stuff.


    BTW - I recommend Healthy Choice frozen steamers when you don't feel
    like cooking. They come in various sizes and were recommended to mr by
    a registered dietician at my doctor's office. I had the Sweet & Sour Chicken made with "riced" cauliflower for supper last night. Nice and
    not overly filling.

    Have to take a look at them and see what's in them. Usually we've got enough stuff on hand that if I don't feel like cooking, a meal can be assembled with bits and pieces of this and that.

    One of my favourites (which I first picked up by mistake) is Chicken Linguini With Red Pepper Alfredo. Here's the ingredients:

    Contains 2% or Less of: Modified Corn Starch, Soybean Oil, Nonfat Dry
    Milk Red Pepper Sauce, Salt, Flavorings, Xanthan Gum, Guar Gum,
    Distilled Vinegar Red Pepper, Salt

    That's quite a list. But I don't see any no-no stuff like HFCS, etc in there. And it is tasty. Bv)=

    Have to see what Steve thinks of it. Generally tho, I have enough odds
    and ends of stuff in the freezer, fridge and pantry that a no fuss meal
    is easy to put together. I always have eggs on hand, both raw and
    steamed; bread; fresh and/or frozen vegetables............... a lot can
    be done with a bit of this and that.

    It's a matter of convenience. If I'm banging recipes into the Meal Muncher, or otherwise occupied I can toss a Healthy Choice into the
    nuker for six minutes - et voila' - supper. And Jasper or Izzy (K9 dishwashers) will pre wash the dish.

    Between the 2 of us, usually someone is available to do a quick meal. If
    we're out, sometimes we'll swing by and get take out from any one of
    several favorite places instead.


    Sigh! Small chance of seeing her now probably.

    I keep her updated on the goings-on at the Zone. One of her favourite District Managers has returned to this area to replace a manager she didn't care much for.

    Too bad she's married (to a nice guy). I once told her that if I were
    even 30years younger and she wasn't already taken .......

    Sigh! (G)

    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

    After I bang in a recipe:


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Gone crazy, be back later. leave a message at the Beep!

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed May 29 20:22:33 2024
    Hi Dave,


    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<

    pre-cut muskmelon to take home and make into lunch.

    OTOH, we'll buy the whole melon and cut it up ourselves.

    As do I sometimes. But I'm more likely to just slice it down the
    middle, scoop out the seeds and attack one half with a spoon until
    there is
    nothing left but the rind.

    Or fill the seed cavity with a mound of chicken salad - then proceed
    as above.

    My dad used to tell us about how he would fill the cavity with vanilla
    ice cream when he was young. I understand he did some of the family
    cooking in his teen years when his mom had serious health issues. Melon
    and ice cream would be filling enough for me but his dad (and he, during
    the summer) worked in a lumber yard so would have needed more than that
    to sustain them for the hard work.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri May 31 06:02:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Never had a break-in. (touches wood) But currently if someone intrudes
    on my home the 3 pooches (including a pit bull mix who is *very* territorial) would shred their hindquarters for them.

    We blame it on the local post office--we'd put in a mail hold; they
    claim they never got it due to a computer glitch. We went away and a package was left at the front door, mail jammed into the box, all advertising nobody home. Lost a couple of family heirloom pieces plus
    some one of a kind pieces from Israel and a lot of inexpensive stuff.

    The computer is a handy whipping boy. My situation is that if I'm gone,
    Dennis is here. If he's gone, I'm here. If my brother is off spending
    time at the camp ground he has me pick up his mail and rat hole it until
    he and Vicky get home.

    BTW - I recommend

    8<----- CLIP ----->8

    Have to see what Steve thinks of it. Generally tho, I have enough odds
    and ends of stuff in the freezer, fridge and pantry that a no fuss meal
    is easy to put together. I always have eggs on hand, both raw and
    steamed; bread; fresh and/or frozen vegetables............... a lot can
    be done with a bit of this and that.

    It's a matter of convenience. If I'm banging recipes into the Meal Muncher, or otherwise occupied I can toss a Healthy Choice into the
    nuker for six minutes - et voila' - supper. And Jasper or Izzy (K9 dishwashers) will pre wash the dish.

    Between the 2 of us, usually someone is available to do a quick meal.
    If we're out, sometimes we'll swing by and get take out from any one of several favorite places instead.

    I also keep instant oatmeal on hand. I can make a quick lunch or supper
    with that, too.

    Sigh! Small chance of seeing her now probably.

    I keep her updated on the goings-on at the Zone. One of her favourite District Managers has returned to this area to replace a manager she didn't care much for.

    Too bad she's married (to a nice guy). I once told her that if I were
    even 30years younger and she wasn't already taken .......

    Sigh! (G)

    Too bad for me, not for her. When she had he latest son, Titus, and he
    was near his second Xmas I had come across some gigantic plush teddy
    bears (4 feet tall) so I gave one to Misty to give to the lad. I ran
    across her and her sons (two in Jr High/High school) when Titus was (I
    think) 5. We chatted for a while then went on our appointed rounds.
    Titus asked his Mom "Who was that dude?" When she said "That's the guy
    who gave you the big bear." He turned to his big brothers and declaimed
    "See, I told you there was really a Santa Claus". I got around the corner
    and into anther aisle before I lost it.

    This is good any time not just Holiday season. Warmed, it's like drinking
    a slice of apple pie. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Christmas Cider
    Categories: Beverages, Fruits, Citrus
    Yield: 16 Servings

    3 c Water
    4 Black chai tea bags *
    8 c Apple cider or apple juice
    2 c Low-calorie cranberry juice
    1/2 c Orange juice
    4 (3") sticks cinnamon
    3 Whole cloves
    Cinnamon sticks and/or fresh
    - cranberries (optional)

    * To keep the cider from looking cloudy, be sure to
    purchase chai tea bags that do not contain milk solids.

    In a medium saucepan, bring the water to boiling. Remove
    from heat. Add tea bags. Cover and let steep for 5
    minutes. Discard tea bags.

    In a 6 to 8 quart Dutch oven, combine apple cider,
    cranberry juice, orange juice, the 4 cinnamon sticks, the
    cloves, and the steeped tea. Bring to boiling; reduce
    heat. Cover and simmer for 20 minutes. Discard cinnamon
    sticks and cloves. Serve warm.

    If desired, garnish with additional cinnamon sticks and/or
    cranberries.

    Makes 16 (6-ounce) servings.

    Make-Ahead Directions: Prepare cider as directed; cool.
    Transfer to an airtight container; cover. Chill for up to
    3 days. Serve chilled, or transfer to a large Dutch oven
    and heat through.

    Calories 68, Total Fat (g) 0, Saturated Fat (g) 0,
    Cholesterol (mg) 0, Sodium (mg) 6, Carbohydrate (g) 17,
    Fiber (g) 0, Protein (g) 0

    Diabetic Exchanges Fruit (d.e.) 1

    From: http://www.diabeticconnect.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri May 31 13:55:30 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Never had a break-in. (touches wood) But currently if someone intrudes
    on my home the 3 pooches (including a pit bull mix who is *very* territorial) would shred their hindquarters for them.

    We blame it on the local post office--we'd put in a mail hold; they
    claim they never got it due to a computer glitch. We went away and a package was left at the front door, mail jammed into the box, all advertising nobody home. Lost a couple of family heirloom pieces plus
    some one of a kind pieces from Israel and a lot of inexpensive stuff.

    The computer is a handy whipping boy. My situation is that if I'm
    gone, Dennis is here. If he's gone, I'm here. If my brother is off spending
    time at the camp ground he has me pick up his mail and rat hole it
    until he and Vicky get home.

    We have a bigger, locking mail box now. We also let the post office know
    we're going to be gone, our carrier (different route from rental house)
    also knows to hold if he sees how we "set" the box before leaving town.


    BTW - I recommend

    8<----- CLIP ----->8

    Have to see what Steve thinks of it. Generally tho, I have enough odds
    and ends of stuff in the freezer, fridge and pantry that a no fuss meal
    is easy to put together. I always have eggs on hand, both raw and
    steamed; bread; fresh and/or frozen vegetables............... a lot can
    be done with a bit of this and that.

    It's a matter of convenience. If I'm banging recipes into the Meal Muncher, or otherwise occupied I can toss a Healthy Choice into the
    nuker for six minutes - et voila' - supper. And Jasper or Izzy (K9 dishwashers) will pre wash the dish.

    Between the 2 of us, usually someone is available to do a quick meal.
    If we're out, sometimes we'll swing by and get take out from any one of several favorite places instead.

    I also keep instant oatmeal on hand. I can make a quick lunch or
    supper with that, too.

    We have some of that on hand also. Steve has several tins of sardines he
    can grab, plus we've got various canned soups and other "quick grabs" in
    the pantry.


    Too bad for me, not for her. When she had he latest son, Titus, and he
    was near his second Xmas I had come across some gigantic plush teddy
    bears (4 feet tall) so I gave one to Misty to give to the lad. I ran across her and her sons (two in Jr High/High school) when Titus was (I think) 5. We chatted for a while then went on our appointed rounds.
    Titus asked his Mom "Who was that dude?" When she said "That's the guy
    who gave you the big bear." He turned to his big brothers and
    declaimed "See, I told you there was really a Santa Claus". I got
    around the corner and into anther aisle before I lost it.

    I would have too. (G) Back when we were in Germany, Deborah won a teddy
    bear about that size at a carnival. Years later she was cleaning her
    house, came across the bear and her then 18 month old son claimed it.
    She sent a picture of him looking at the bear; they were both about the
    same height, cute!


    This is good any time not just Holiday season. Warmed, it's like
    drinking a slice of apple pie. Bv)=


    Title: Christmas Cider
    Categories: Beverages, Fruits, Citrus
    Yield: 16 Servings

    It does look good! Have to remember it for fall; we're moving into hot
    weather now.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... One of these days, I'll quit procrastinating.

    --- PPoint 3.01
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Jun 2 04:55:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Hi Dave,


    Never had a break-in. (touches wood) But currently if someone intrudes
    on my home the 3 pooches (including a pit bull mix who is *very* territorial) would shred their hindquarters for them.

    We blame it on the local post office--we'd put in a mail hold; they
    claim they never got it due to a computer glitch. We went away and a package was left at the front door, mail jammed into the box, all advertising nobody home. Lost a couple of family heirloom pieces plus
    some one of a kind pieces from Israel and a lot of inexpensive stuff.

    The computer is a handy whipping boy. My situation is that if I'm
    gone, Dennis is here. If he's gone, I'm here. If my brother is off spendingthe camp ground he has me pick up his mail and rat hole it
    time at until he and Vicky get home.

    We have a bigger, locking mail box now. We also let the post office
    know we're going to be gone, our carrier (different route from rental house) also knows to hold if he sees how we "set" the box before
    leaving town.

    I can remember when we had either a mail box attached to the siding
    near the front door. Or a mail slot with "flapper" in the door itself. Mailboxes were for R.F.D.

    And the in-town letter carrier walked the route.

    BTW - I recommend

    8<----- CLIP ----->8

    Have to see what Steve thinks of it. Generally tho, I have enough odds
    and ends of stuff in the freezer, fridge and pantry that a no fuss meal
    is easy to put together. I always have eggs on hand, both raw and
    steamed; bread; fresh and/or frozen vegetables............... a lot can
    be done with a bit of this and that.

    It's a matter of convenience. If I'm banging recipes into the Meal Muncher, or otherwise occupied I can toss a Healthy Choice into the
    nuker for six minutes - et voila' - supper. And Jasper or Izzy (K9 dishwashers) will pre wash the dish.

    Between the 2 of us, usually someone is available to do a quick meal.
    If we're out, sometimes we'll swing by and get take out from any one of several favorite places instead.

    I also keep instant oatmeal on hand. I can make a quick lunch or
    supper with that, too.

    We have some of that on hand also. Steve has several tins of sardines
    he can grab, plus we've got various canned soups and other "quick
    grabs" in the pantry.

    I did that last night. I grabbed a can of Campbells and saw that it was
    their new-ish Cream of Mushroom with Chicken. So I got a can of chicken
    chunks that I had scored o a deep discount and a 4 oz can of mushroom
    stems & pieces. Used the liquid from the chicken and the 'shroms for my "thinner" and had a very tasty, filling supper.

    Too bad for me, not for her. When she had he latest son, Titus, and he
    was near his second Xmas I had come across some gigantic plush teddy
    bears (4 feet tall) so I gave one to Misty to give to the lad. I ran across her and her sons (two in Jr High/High school) when Titus was (I think) 5. We chatted for a while then went on our appointed rounds.
    Titus asked his Mom "Who was that dude?" When she said "That's the guy
    who gave you the big bear." He turned to his big brothers and
    declaimed "See, I told you there was really a Santa Claus". I got
    around the corner and into anther aisle before I lost it.

    I would have too. (G) Back when we were in Germany, Deborah won a teddy bear about that size at a carnival. Years later she was cleaning her house, came across the bear and her then 18 month old son claimed it.
    She sent a picture of him looking at the bear; they were both about the same height, cute!

    This is good any time not just Holiday season. Warmed, it's like
    drinking a slice of apple pie. Bv)=

    Title: Christmas Cider
    Categories: Beverages, Fruits, Citrus
    Yield: 16 Servings

    It does look good! Have to remember it for fall; we're moving into
    hot weather now.

    Weather here has been odd. We're in June and have had on day the reached
    90 Fahrenheits. Temps have been in the mid 80s (max) but mostly in the 70s

    The house is on a slab so retro-fitting central air would be a MAJOR
    project. We make do with wndow units. And I'v only run the one in my
    bedroo once. In the computer room, nt at all.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cantaloupe Cooler
    Categories: Five, Fruits, Citrus, Dairy, Beverages
    Yield: 1 servings

    1 c Cantaloupe; in cubes
    1/2 c Vanilla yoghurt
    1/4 ts Lemon juice
    1 pk NutraSweet
    ds Cinnamon

    Combine all ingredients in a blender and blend until
    smooth.

    Yield: 1 serving

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.diabetesselfmanagement.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Jun 2 19:42:39 2024
    Hi Dave,


    The computer is a handy whipping boy. My situation is that if I'm
    gone, Dennis is here. If he's gone, I'm here. If my brother is off spendingthe camp ground he has me pick up his mail and rat hole it
    time at until he and Vicky get home.

    We have a bigger, locking mail box now. We also let the post office
    know we're going to be gone, our carrier (different route from rental house) also knows to hold if he sees how we "set" the box before
    leaving town.

    I can remember when we had either a mail box attached to the siding

    We had one of those when we were stationed at Fort Devens, MA.


    near the front door. Or a mail slot with "flapper" in the door itself.

    Been in places that had that but they weren't in use as a central box
    had superseeded it.

    Mailboxes were for R.F.D.

    Have had that a number of places also.

    And the in-town letter carrier walked the route.

    Yes, I remember them as well. My parents had a box at the post office in
    town for decades, changed to a box and delivery their last maybe 5
    years. I think the rent on the box had gone up to the point where Dad
    thought it was unreasonable, delivery was free.


    Between the 2 of us, usually someone is available to do a quick meal.
    If we're out, sometimes we'll swing by and get take out from any one of several favorite places instead.

    I also keep instant oatmeal on hand. I can make a quick lunch or
    supper with that, too.

    We have some of that on hand also. Steve has several tins of sardines
    he can grab, plus we've got various canned soups and other "quick
    grabs" in the pantry.

    I did that last night. I grabbed a can of Campbells and saw that it
    was their new-ish Cream of Mushroom with Chicken. So I got a can of chicken chunks that I had scored o a deep discount and a 4 oz can of mushroom
    stems & pieces. Used the liquid from the chicken and the 'shroms for
    my "thinner" and had a very tasty, filling supper.

    Sounds good--serve it over toast, rice, noodles or whatever. Also add
    canned or frozen veggie like peas, corn or green beans.

    This is good any time not just Holiday season. Warmed, it's like
    drinking a slice of apple pie. Bv)=

    Title: Christmas Cider
    Categories: Beverages, Fruits, Citrus
    Yield: 16 Servings

    It does look good! Have to remember it for fall; we're moving into
    hot weather now.

    Weather here has been odd. We're in June and have had on day the
    reached 90 Fahrenheits. Temps have been in the mid 80s (max) but
    mostly in the 70s

    The house is on a slab so retro-fitting central air would be a MAJOR project. We make do with wndow units. And I'v only run the one in my bedroo once. In the computer room, nt at all.

    We have central air but it's pretty much a "given" in anything built in
    this part of the country. When we first got married, we lived down on
    the coast; the apartment had no a/c. Moved to an older house and a
    friend gave us a couple of window units, took them when we moved to a
    small double wide mobile home. Left them there when Steve went into the
    Army and we started moving all over the place.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... 90% of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at.

    --- PPoint 3.01
    * Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)
  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jun 4 06:24:01 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    The computer is a handy whipping boy. My situation is that if I'm
    gone, Dennis is here. If he's gone, I'm here. If my brother is off spendingthe camp ground he has me pick up his mail and rat hole it
    time at until he and Vicky get home.

    We have a bigger, locking mail box now. We also let the post office
    know we're going to be gone, our carrier (different route from rental house) also knows to hold if he sees how we "set" the box before
    leaving town.

    That's handy. I've only met one of my postal delivery people. We have a
    range - sometimes the mail is in the box by 10 ayem. Other times it's
    almost twilight time. I met the lady who delivers early (mid morning)
    when the letter carriers were having a food drive and I had a couple of
    Hy-Vee bags full of staple items like boxed dinners, etc. which I didn't
    want to leave out by the street next to my mail box. So, I watched for
    the USPS Jeep and handed over the merch directly to her.

    I can remember when we had either a mail box attached to the siding

    We had one of those when we were stationed at Fort Devens, MA.

    near the front door. Or a mail slot with "flapper" in the door itself.

    Been in places that had that but they weren't in use as a central box
    had superseeded it.

    Only "central" mail station I ever had was when I lived in the Tin Can at Trailer Trash Acres.

    Mailboxes were for R.F.D.

    Have had that a number of places also.

    And the in-town letter carrier walked the route.

    Yes, I remember them as well. My parents had a box at the post office
    in town for decades, changed to a box and delivery their last maybe 5 years. I think the rent on the box had gone up to the point where Dad thought it was unreasonable, delivery was free.

    When I was younger I rented a P.O. Box at the main downtown ost office.
    for U$12/year. It was handy for getting mail I didn't want anyone of my
    nears & dears to see. Or didn't want some anonymous company to know my
    physical address.

    Between the 2 of us, usually someone is available to do a quick meal.
    If we're out, sometimes we'll swing by and get take out from any one of several favorite places instead.

    I also keep instant oatmeal on hand. I can make a quick lunch or
    supper with that, too.

    We have some of that on hand also. Steve has several tins of sardines
    he can grab, plus we've got various canned soups and other "quick
    grabs" in the pantry.

    I did that last night. I grabbed a can of Campbells and saw that it
    was their new-ish Cream of Mushroom with Chicken. So I got a can of chicken chunks that I had scored on a deep discount and a 4 oz can of mushroom stems & pieces. Used the liquid from the chicken and the
    'shroms for my "thinner" and had a very tasty, filling supper.

    Sounds good--serve it over toast, rice, noodles or whatever. Also add canned or frozen veggie like peas, corn or green beans.

    It was good as was. I just ate it as a soup/stew and was satiated.

    This is good any time not just Holiday season. Warmed, it's like
    drinking a slice of apple pie. Bv)=

    Title: Christmas Cider
    Categories: Beverages, Fruits, Citrus
    Yield: 16 Servings

    It does look good! Have to remember it for fall; we're moving into
    hot weather now.

    Weather here has been odd. We're in June and have had on day the
    reached 90 Fahrenheits. Temps have been in the mid 80s (max) but
    mostly in the 70s

    The house is on a slab so retro-fitting central air would be a MAJOR project. We make do with wndow units. And I've only run the one in my bedroo once. In the computer room, nt at all.

    We have central air but it's pretty much a "given" in anything built in this part of the country. When we first got married, we lived down on
    the coast; the apartment had no a/c. Moved to an older house and a
    friend gave us a couple of window units, took them when we moved to a small double wide mobile home. Left them there when Steve went into the Army and we started moving all over the place.

    I already have me "dream" home (if I hit the lottery) planned. Build my ultimate kitchen - then hang the rest of the "living" spaces off of that.
    Solar panels on the roof and a windmill generator in the yard. Than the
    thermal conditionig by heat pump.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dave's Quick S.O.S.
    Categories: Five, Beef, Soups
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb Ground Beef
    10 3/4 oz Can condensed cream of
    - mushroom soup
    Salt & pepper *
    1 sm Onion; diced (opt)
    8 oz Pasta; cooked (opt)

    * easy on the salt. Most canned mushroom soup is already
    plenty salty.

    Cook the ground beef in a skillet or heavy bottom sauce
    pan until pink disappears, stirring fairly constantly to
    break up lumps, etc. DO NOT DRAIN.

    Add can of mushroom soup, salt, pepper and onion (if
    using) and stir to combine. Continue to cook, stirring
    to mix until bubbly.

    Serve immediately over bread, toast or pasta.

    Serve four with a side of veggies.

    From the kitchen at Chez Dirty

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Jun 4 12:15:13 2024
    Hi Dave,


    We have a bigger, locking mail box now. We also let the post office
    know we're going to be gone, our carrier (different route from rental house) also knows to hold if he sees how we "set" the box before
    leaving town.

    That's handy. I've only met one of my postal delivery people. We have
    a range - sometimes the mail is in the box by 10 ayem. Other times
    it's
    almost twilight time. I met the lady who delivers early (mid morning)

    Ours is usually late afternoon into early evening. Sometimes one of us
    (usually Steve) is outside when he comes around, stops to talk for a
    minute or two. We're near the end of the route.

    when the letter carriers were having a food drive and I had a couple
    of Hy-Vee bags full of staple items like boxed dinners, etc. which I didn't want to leave out by the street next to my mail box. So, I
    watched for
    the USPS Jeep and handed over the merch directly to her.

    Smart, we missed that this year as we were out of town.

    Been in places that had that but they weren't in use as a central box
    had superseeded it.

    Only "central" mail station I ever had was when I lived in the Tin Can
    at Trailer Trash Acres.

    Military housing had it in a lot of places, also the apartment complex
    in CA and trailer park in San Angelo, TX.


    Mailboxes were for R.F.D.

    Have had that a number of places also.

    And the in-town letter carrier walked the route.

    Yes, I remember them as well. My parents had a box at the post office
    in town for decades, changed to a box and delivery their last maybe 5 years. I think the rent on the box had gone up to the point where Dad thought it was unreasonable, delivery was free.

    When I was younger I rented a P.O. Box at the main downtown ost
    office. for U$12/year. It was handy for getting mail I didn't want
    anyone of my nears & dears to see. Or didn't want some anonymous
    company to know my
    physical address.

    That goes right into the recycle bag or shredder for us.


    Between the 2 of us, usually someone is available to do a quick meal.
    If we're out, sometimes we'll swing by and get take out from any one of several favorite places instead.

    I also keep instant oatmeal on hand. I can make a quick lunch or
    supper with that, too.

    We have some of that on hand also. Steve has several tins of sardines
    he can grab, plus we've got various canned soups and other "quick
    grabs" in the pantry.

    I did that last night. I grabbed a can of Campbells and saw that it
    was their new-ish Cream of Mushroom with Chicken. So I got a can of chicken chunks that I had scored on a deep discount and a 4 oz can of mushroom stems & pieces. Used the liquid from the chicken and the
    'shroms for my "thinner" and had a very tasty, filling supper.

    Sounds good--serve it over toast, rice, noodles or whatever. Also add canned or frozen veggie like peas, corn or green beans.

    It was good as was. I just ate it as a soup/stew and was satiated.

    T'was just an idea for another way to serve it.

    This is good any time not just Holiday season. Warmed, it's like
    drinking a slice of apple pie. Bv)=

    Title: Christmas Cider
    Categories: Beverages, Fruits, Citrus
    Yield: 16 Servings

    It does look good! Have to remember it for fall; we're moving into
    hot weather now.

    Weather here has been odd. We're in June and have had on day the
    reached 90 Fahrenheits. Temps have been in the mid 80s (max) but
    mostly in the 70s

    The house is on a slab so retro-fitting central air would be a MAJOR project. We make do with wndow units. And I've only run the one in my bedroo once. In the computer room, nt at all.

    We have central air but it's pretty much a "given" in anything built in this part of the country. When we first got married, we lived down on
    the coast; the apartment had no a/c. Moved to an older house and a
    friend gave us a couple of window units, took them when we moved to a small double wide mobile home. Left them there when Steve went into the Army and we started moving all over the place.

    I already have me "dream" home (if I hit the lottery) planned. Build
    my ultimate kitchen - then hang the rest of the "living" spaces off of that. Solar panels on the roof and a windmill generator in the yard.
    Than the thermal conditionig by heat pump.

    We'd probably bump out the back wall, make the kitchen and 2 "bedrooms" (computer room and sewingstudio) bigger.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jun 6 06:21:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    When I was younger I rented a P.O. Box at the main downtown ost
    office. for U$12/year. It was handy for getting mail I didn't want
    anyone of my nears & dears to see. Or didn't want some anonymous
    company to know my> physical address.

    That goes right into the recycle bag or shredder for us.

    I shred anything with my name on it. The rest goes into the recycle
    pile with the old news (as if) papers and magazines.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    I did that last night. I grabbed a can of Campbells and saw that it
    was their new-ish Cream of Mushroom with Chicken. So I got a can of chicken chunks that I had scored on a deep discount and a 4 oz can of mushroom stems & pieces. Used the liquid from the chicken and the
    'shroms for my "thinner" and had a very tasty, filling supper.

    Sounds good--serve it over toast, rice, noodles or whatever. Also add canned or frozen veggie like peas, corn or green beans.

    It was good as was. I just ate it as a soup/stew and was satiated.

    T'was just an idea for another way to serve it.

    I get enough carbs from the main dish Bv)=

    8<----- AGAIN ----->8

    I already have me "dream" home (if I hit the lottery) planned. Build
    my ultimate kitchen - then hang the rest of the "living" spaces off of that. Solar panels on the roof and a windmill generator in the yard.
    Than the thermal conditionig by heat pump.

    We'd probably bump out the back wall, make the kitchen and 2 "bedrooms" (computer room and sewingstudio) bigger.

    And I'd move to a less "busy" street. Fortunately my little crib is well insulated so I don't hear most of the traffic - except emergency vehicles
    on "angry" mode (lights & siren) or chirrun with their hot-rods pressing
    hard on the loud pedal - and inviting those lights and sirens to set off
    in pursuit. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Snap, Crackle & Pop Crunchies
    Categories: Five, Chocolate, Grains, Snacks
    Yield: 12 Servings

    2 1/2 c Rice Krispies cereal
    8 oz Chocolate
    2 tb Light corn syrup
    Cupcake liners

    Pour some water into a pan until it is about an inch
    deep and bring it to a boil. Break the chocolate into
    pieces and put into a heatproof bowl. Put this into the
    pan until the chocolate has melted. Stir the syrup into
    the melted chocolate and add the cereal.

    Spoon into cupcake liners and leave to set.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Jun 6 11:48:49 2024
    Hi Dave,


    When I was younger I rented a P.O. Box at the main downtown ost
    office. for U$12/year. It was handy for getting mail I didn't want
    anyone of my nears & dears to see. Or didn't want some anonymous
    company to know my> physical address.

    That goes right into the recycle bag or shredder for us.

    I shred anything with my name on it. The rest goes into the recycle
    pile with the old news (as if) papers and magazines.

    If it's sent with our name but obvious junk, it goes into recycle. If
    it's got any sort of ID number, it gets shredded.


    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    I did that last night. I grabbed a can of Campbells and saw that it
    was their new-ish Cream of Mushroom with Chicken. So I got a can of chicken chunks that I had scored on a deep discount and a 4 oz can of mushroom stems & pieces. Used the liquid from the chicken and the
    'shroms for my "thinner" and had a very tasty, filling supper.

    Sounds good--serve it over toast, rice, noodles or whatever. Also add canned or frozen veggie like peas, corn or green beans.

    It was good as was. I just ate it as a soup/stew and was satiated.

    T'was just an idea for another way to serve it.

    I get enough carbs from the main dish Bv)=

    I'll have to suggest it to a friend who's a scout leader.


    8<----- AGAIN ----->8

    I already have me "dream" home (if I hit the lottery) planned. Build
    my ultimate kitchen - then hang the rest of the "living" spaces off of that. Solar panels on the roof and a windmill generator in the yard.
    Than the thermal conditionig by heat pump.

    We'd probably bump out the back wall, make the kitchen and 2 "bedrooms" (computer room and sewingstudio) bigger.

    And I'd move to a less "busy" street. Fortunately my little crib is
    well insulated so I don't hear most of the traffic - except emergency vehicles on "angry" mode (lights & siren) or chirrun with their
    hot-rods pressing hard on the loud pedal - and inviting those lights
    and sirens to set off in pursuit. Bv)=

    We hear the sirens off the main road a couple of blocks up but generally
    don't hear the traffic on our street. There's a big Catholic church down
    the road from that and when mass gets out (mass exodus) there's a lot
    more traffic on the street but generally not heard inside the house.


    Title: Snap, Crackle & Pop Crunchies
    Categories: Five, Chocolate, Grains, Snacks
    Yield: 12 Servings

    2 1/2 c Rice Krispies cereal
    8 oz Chocolate
    2 tb Light corn syrup
    Cupcake liners

    Looks good and easy, something to maybe make up for road snacks
    (munchies when we're travelling).

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... One of these days, I'll quit procrastinating.

    --- PPoint 3.01
    * Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)
  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jun 8 05:28:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I shred anything with my name on it. The rest goes into the recycle
    pile with the old news (as if) papers and magazines.

    If it's sent with our name but obvious junk, it goes into recycle. If
    it's got any sort of ID number, it gets shredded.

    I do even the junque mail. The stuff I get to my alias (Salms Grilnek)
    goes into the waste bin or recycling pile unopened. Bv)=

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    I already have me "dream" home (if I hit the lottery) planned. Build
    my ultimate kitchen - then hang the rest of the "living" spaces off of that. Solar panels on the roof and a windmill generator in the yard.
    Than the thermal conditionig by heat pump.

    We'd probably bump out the back wall, make the kitchen and 2 "bedrooms" (computer room and sewingstudio) bigger.

    And I'd move to a less "busy" street. Fortunately my little crib is
    well insulated so I don't hear most of the traffic - except emergency vehicles on "angry" mode (lights & siren) or chirrun with their
    hot-rods pressing hard on the loud pedal - and inviting those lights
    and sirens to set off in pursuit. Bv)=

    We hear the sirens off the main road a couple of blocks up but
    generally don't hear the traffic on our street. There's a big Catholic church down the road from that and when mass gets out (mass exodus) there's a lot more traffic on the street but generally not heard inside the house.

    Well, fresh from being shorn of their sins their diving would, naturally,
    be somewhat subdued. Bv)=

    Title: Snap, Crackle & Pop Crunchies
    Categories: Five, Chocolate, Grains, Snacks
    Yield: 12 Servings

    2 1/2 c Rice Krispies cereal
    8 oz Chocolate
    2 tb Light corn syrup
    Cupcake liners

    Looks good and easy, something to maybe make up for road snacks
    (munchies when we're travelling).

    Or if you get Trick-or-Treat visitors on All Hallow's Eve.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Candied Apples
    Categories: Fruits, Candy, Snacks
    Yield: 6 Servings

    2 c Granulated sugar
    2 c Corn syrup
    1/3 c Cinnamon candy
    1 c Water
    3/4 ts Cinnamon
    1/2 ts Vanilla
    1/4 ts Cloves
    3/4 ts Red food coloring
    6 md Apples

    Remove stems from apples, wash, and pat dry. Insert a
    wooden skewer in each apple, running through the apple
    from stem end to base without protruding all the way
    through the bottom end.

    Combine sugar, corn syrup, cinnamon candies, and water in
    medium-sized saucepan. Cook until candies dissolve,
    stirring constantly. Be careful not to boil. Add cinnamon,
    vanilla, cloves, and food coloring. Mix thoroughly.

    Boil mixture to 300ºF/150ºC using a candy thermometer
    without stirring. While mixture is boiling, generously
    prepare a baking sheet with cooking spray so it’s ready
    ahead of time. As soon as mixture reaches 300ºF/150ºC,
    remove it from heat and quickly dip each apple-one by
    one-into the mixture until it is thoroughly coated. Set
    coated apples, standing on their bottoms with skewer
    pointing up, on baking sheet until mixture hardens.

    Let apples reach room temperature before eating.

    Recipe By: The Halloween Book

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jun 8 13:22:04 2024
    Hi Dave,


    If it's sent with our name but obvious junk, it goes into recycle. If
    it's got any sort of ID number, it gets shredded.

    I do even the junque mail. The stuff I get to my alias (Salms Grilnek) goes into the waste bin or recycling pile unopened. Bv)=

    Sometimes we open it to verify that it is indeed, junk stuff since some
    non junk stuff is sent bulk rate.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8


    And I'd move to a less "busy" street. Fortunately my little crib is
    well insulated so I don't hear most of the traffic - except emergency vehicles on "angry" mode (lights & siren) or chirrun with their
    hot-rods pressing hard on the loud pedal - and inviting those lights
    and sirens to set off in pursuit. Bv)=

    We hear the sirens off the main road a couple of blocks up but
    generally don't hear the traffic on our street. There's a big Catholic church down the road from that and when mass gets out (mass exodus) there's a lot more traffic on the street but generally not heard inside the house.

    Well, fresh from being shorn of their sins their diving would,
    naturally, be somewhat subdued. Bv)=

    Yes, but there's a lot of it. Trying to make a left turn coming out of
    our street onto South Main can be a problem certain times of the day. We
    have a STOP sign, S.Main has nothing. Town is going to have to put in a
    light eventually, probably when they re-do the intersection some years
    down the road.

    Title: Snap, Crackle & Pop Crunchies DD> Categories: Five,
    Chocolate, Grains, Snacks DD> Yield: 12 Servings

    2 1/2 c Rice Krispies cereal
    8 oz Chocolate
    2 tb Light corn syrup
    Cupcake liners

    Looks good and easy, something to maybe make up for road snacks
    (munchies when we're travelling).

    Or if you get Trick-or-Treat visitors on All Hallow's Eve.

    Some years we have quite a few, other years, nobody. Had about 30 last
    year but none in 2022. One year when we were living in the rental, we
    had about 60, mostly from the nearby Section 8 housing.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... If you focus only on the thorns you will miss the beauty of the rose.

    --- PPoint 3.01
    * Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)
  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jun 10 05:56:37 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    If it's sent with our name but obvious junk, it goes into recycle. If
    it's got any sort of ID number, it gets shredded.

    I do even the junque mail. The stuff I get to my alias (Salms Grilnek) goes into the waste bin or recycling pile unopened. Bv)=

    Sometimes we open it to verify that it is indeed, junk stuff since some non junk stuff is sent bulk rate.

    I've not seen anything labelled "bulk rate" in years. I think (bot not
    sure) it is no more as a category. I believe it's now called "Presorted Standard". It's still bulk mail and junk but the marketroids have tried
    to put a pretty face on it.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    We hear the sirens off the main road a couple of blocks up but
    generally don't hear the traffic on our street. There's a big Catholic church down the road from that and when mass gets out (mass exodus) there's a lot more traffic on the street but generally not heard inside the house.

    Well, fresh from being shorn of their sins their diving would,
    naturally, be somewhat subdued. Bv)=

    Yes, but there's a lot of it. Trying to make a left turn coming out of
    our street onto South Main can be a problem certain times of the day.
    We have a STOP sign, S.Main has nothing. Town is going to have to put
    in a light eventually, probably when they re-do the intersection some years down the road.

    I knew a guywho was the traffic engineer for my town. His take was that
    other than intersections of two arterial streets a 4 way stop would bt
    more efficient at moving traffic and giving all a "chance', Seconf place
    (and on more busy intersections was called "Treadle Operated" traffic
    signals. They no longer use treadles but an induction coil installed in/
    under the pavement.

    Title: Snap, Crackle & Pop Crunchies DD> Categories: Five,
    Chocolate, Grains, Snacks DD> Yield: 12 Servings

    2 1/2 c Rice Krispies cereal
    8 oz Chocolate
    2 tb Light corn syrup
    Cupcake liners

    Looks good and easy, something to maybe make up for road snacks
    (munchies when we're travelling).

    Or if you get Trick-or-Treat visitors on All Hallow's Eve.

    Some years we have quite a few, other years, nobody. Had about 30 last year but none in 2022. One year when we were living in the rental, we
    had about 60, mostly from the nearby Section 8 housing.

    I keep a small supply of orange habanero chilies on hand. "Here y'go,
    miniature pumpkin." (evil grin). I also have a supply of "fun size"
    Mars candy for the littles. Haven't seen many T or T kids out for many
    years - even before the pandemic.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Crispy Chicken Skin Tacos w/Habanero Salsa
    Categories: Poultry, Chilies, Fruits, Citrus, Salsa
    Yield: 4 Servings

    Skin from a whole chicken
    - or 5 chicken breasts or
    - leg/thigh quarters *
    Salt
    2 Habanero chilies; seeded,
    - chopped
    4 Green onions; white, light
    - green parts only
    1/4 c Chopped cilantro
    2 Roma or other plum tomatoes;
    - seeded, chopped
    3 tb Lemon juice
    1/4 sm Head iceberg lettuce; thin
    - sliced, sprinkled w/cider
    - vinegar & salt
    1 lg Avocado; seeded, peeled,
    - chopped
    More chopped cilantro and
    - green onion for garnish
    4 (or more) tortillas (use
    - corn tortillas if cooking
    - gluten-free)

    * Pulling the skin off of chicken can be a little
    slippery, especially off of chicken legs. Get it started
    with your fingers, then grip the skin with a paper towel
    and pull.

    Yes, we are evil.

    These tacos are evil. And the fact that we are telling
    you about them, and that you might get the crazy idea to
    make them too, means that we are definitely up to no good.
    Except that these tacos, made with crispy fried chicken
    skin as the star ingredient, are really really good. And
    if they weren't, we certainly wouldn't risk ridicule and
    disdain by sharing them. But they are worth it, my
    friends. Truly they are. We even made them twice. First
    with leftover chicken skins from a recipe, then again
    with chicken we bought just for the skins because not
    surprisingly our grocer doesn't sell straight chicken
    skins.

    Lay the chicken skin, fat side down, in a non-stick pan
    set over medium-low heat. Slowly crisp the skins,
    letting the fat render. Press them down with a wooden
    spoon if air pockets develop. Cook them for 5-8 minutes
    before flipping them over. Once you have turned the
    chicken skins over, salt them.

    While the skins are cooking, put the habaneros, green
    onions, cilantro, tomatoes, and lemon juice into a food
    processor. Add a pinch of salt. Pulse a few times to
    combine. Set aside in a small bowl.

    When the chicken skins are browned and crispy, remove
    them to a paper towel-lined plate to absorb the excess
    fat. Then place them on a cutting board and cut them in
    strips.

    Pour off all but a thin sheen of chicken fat from the
    pan (do not discard down a drain or you may clog your
    drain). Heat the tortillas in the pan over medium-high
    heat, turning now and then, until they air pockets
    develop and the tortillas soften.

    Assemble the tacos. Place lettuce, chopped avocado,
    crispy chicken skin, habanero salsa, and more cilantro
    or green onion on the heated tortillas. Fold and eat.

    Makes about 4 tacos.

    From: http://simplyrecipes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Jun 10 11:23:49 2024
    Hi Dave,

    I do even the junque mail. The stuff I get to my alias (Salms Grilnek) goes into the waste bin or recycling pile unopened. Bv)=

    Sometimes we open it to verify that it is indeed, junk stuff since some non junk stuff is sent bulk rate.

    I've not seen anything labelled "bulk rate" in years. I think (bot not sure) it is no more as a category. I believe it's now called
    "Presorted Standard". It's still bulk mail and junk but the
    marketroids have tried to put a pretty face on it.

    I know, just old habit to call it bulk. It does add bulk to the shredder
    or recycle bag. (G)

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    Well, fresh from being shorn of their sins their diving would,
    naturally, be somewhat subdued. Bv)=

    Yes, but there's a lot of it. Trying to make a left turn coming out of
    our street onto South Main can be a problem certain times of the day.
    We have a STOP sign, S.Main has nothing. Town is going to have to put
    in a light eventually, probably when they re-do the intersection some years down the road.

    Steve recently saw a long term plan for the roads in this area. We live
    off of West Holding but East Holding is a block or so closer to town. He
    said that the plan joined the 2 but wasn't specific enough for him to
    figure out how. We're just far enough off of the main road that we may
    not have to move.

    I knew a guywho was the traffic engineer for my town. His take was
    that other than intersections of two arterial streets a 4 way stop
    would bt DD> more efficient at moving traffic and giving all a
    "chance', Seconf DD> place (and on more busy intersections was called
    "Treadle Operated" DD> traffic DD> signals. They no longer use treadles
    but an induction coil installed DD> in/ under the pavement.

    The latter would probably work well in this area. Some years ago when a
    new housing development was put off of one of the bypass roads, they reconfigured the intersection of the bypass and another road so a road
    could be put in from the development. They made a rather convoluted left
    turn from the bypass to the older road; a traffic circle would have
    worked much better. Told my sister who's a civil engineer (road design/construction in Phoenix area); without seeing it, said there
    wasn't enough room for a circle. That's not true as we've seen (this
    area and other parts of the country) where there are circles that would
    fit well within the space available.

    Title: Snap, Crackle & Pop Crunchies DD> Categories: Five,
    Chocolate, Grains, Snacks DD> Yield: 12 Servings

    2 1/2 c Rice Krispies cereal
    8 oz Chocolate
    2 tb Light corn syrup
    Cupcake liners

    Looks good and easy, something to maybe make up for road snacks
    (munchies when we're travelling).

    Or if you get Trick-or-Treat visitors on All Hallow's Eve.

    Some years we have quite a few, other years, nobody. Had about 30 last year but none in 2022. One year when we were living in the rental, we
    had about 60, mostly from the nearby Section 8 housing.

    I keep a small supply of orange habanero chilies on hand. "Here y'go, miniature pumpkin." (evil grin). I also have a supply of "fun size"
    Mars candy for the littles. Haven't seen many T or T kids out for many years - even before the pandemic.

    We usually buy a couple of bags of candy, something like 3 Musketeers
    and Milky Way in the mini bar size. Any left over is enjoyed by us with
    one bar being just big enough to satisfy a chocolate craving.


    Title: Crispy Chicken Skin Tacos w/Habanero Salsa
    Categories: Poultry, Chilies, Fruits, Citrus, Salsa
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1/4 c Chopped cilantro
    More chopped cilantro and
    - green onion for garnish
    4 (or more) tortillas (use
    - corn tortillas if cooking
    - gluten-free)

    These make it a no go for us, especially the corn tortillas. Flour
    tortillas and no cilantro would make it work-able.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... If you think you are confused now, wait until I explain it!

    --- PPoint 3.01
    * Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)
  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jun 12 05:52:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Steve recently saw a long term plan for the roads in this area. We live off of West Holding but East Holding is a block or so closer to town.
    He said that the plan joined the 2 but wasn't specific enough for him
    to figure out how. We're just far enough off of the main road that we
    may not have to move.

    I assume that "Holding" is a street name.

    I knew a guy who was the traffic engineer for my town. His take was
    that other than intersections of two arterial streets a 4 way stop
    would bt more efficient at moving traffic and giving all a "chance'.
    Second place (and on more busy intersections was called"Treadle
    Operated" traffic signals. They no longer use treadlesbut an
    induction coil installed DD> in/ under the pavement.

    The latter would probably work well in this area. Some years ago when a new housing development was put off of one of the bypass roads, they reconfigured the intersection of the bypass and another road so a road could be put in from the development. They made a rather convoluted
    left turn from the bypass to the older road; a traffic circle would
    have worked much better. Told my sister who's a civil engineer (road design/construction in Phoenix area); without seeing it, said there
    wasn't enough room for a circle. That's not true as we've seen (this
    area and other parts of the country) where there are circles that would fit well within the space available.

    New Jersey is well known for their "round abouts". And once one gets
    the hang of how tey work, they're very efficient. We have a few examples
    here - all but one well designed.

    Another trick I've learned for making an exit to the left at a busy intersection is to make a right turn, get to the center lane ASAP then
    find a parking lot or side street to use as a turn around and re-enter
    the traffic stream in your originally intended direction. Beats waiting forever (seemingly) for gaps in traffic to match in your favour.

    Title: Snap, Crackle & Pop Crunchies DD> Categories: Five,
    Chocolate, Grains, Snacks DD> Yield: 12 Servings

    2 1/2 c Rice Krispies cereal
    8 oz Chocolate
    2 tb Light corn syrup
    Cupcake liners

    Looks good and easy, something to maybe make up for road snacks
    (munchies when we're travelling).

    Or if you get Trick-or-Treat visitors on All Hallow's Eve.

    Some years we have quite a few, other years, nobody. Had about 30 last year but none in 2022. One year when we were living in the rental, we
    had about 60, mostly from the nearby Section 8 housing.

    I keep a small supply of orange habanero chilies on hand. "Here y'go, miniature pumpkin." (evil grin). I also have a supply of "fun size"
    Mars candy for the littles. Haven't seen many T or T kids out for many years - even before the pandemic.

    We usually buy a couple of bags of candy, something like 3 Musketeers
    and Milky Way in the mini bar size. Any left over is enjoyed by us with one bar being just big enough to satisfy a chocolate craving.

    When I lived in Inglewood, Califunny I hung aroung with a bunch of air-
    craft engineers and student aircraft engineers for Northrop Instute of Technology. At Halloween one year we were passing out 7 oz cans of soda
    to the Tricky Treaters. One of the last was a kid dressed as a pirate.
    Most of the children, feeling something with weight fall into their
    sack gave a quick "Thanks, mister" and went on to the next house. The
    pirate kid opened his sack, looked down than said, in a gravelly voice,
    "You broke my f****ng cookies" before stomping off down the sidewalk.

    Title: Crispy Chicken Skin Tacos w/Habanero Salsa
    Categories: Poultry, Chilies, Fruits, Citrus, Salsa
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1/4 c Chopped cilantro
    More chopped cilantro and
    - green onion for garnish
    4 (or more) tortillas (use
    - corn tortillas if cooking
    - gluten-free)

    These make it a no go for us, especially the corn tortillas. Flour tortillas and no cilantro would make it work-able.

    You're offered a choice on the tortillas. I prefer wheat flour tortillas myself. The soapweed cooks down and has its "flavour" muted by the heat
    and mixing with the chilies and citrus. I certainly would not use it as
    a garnish.

    Here's a quickie burrito supper I got from my Ne York Times recipe feed.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Easy Burritos
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Chilies, Citrus, Cheese
    Yield: 6 servings

    1 lb Ground beef
    1 md Yellow or white onion; fine
    - chopped
    1 1/2 ts Ground cumin
    1/2 td Smoked paprika, chipotle or
    - ancho chile powder
    1/2 ts Dried oregano
    15 ox Can black or pinto beans
    1 lg Tomato; coarse chopped
    2 ts Lime juice or cider vinegar
    Hot sauce; for drizzling
    - (opt)
    6 Burrito-size (10") flour
    - tortillas
    8 oz Shredded Monterey Jack or
    - Mexican blend cheese

    In a large skillet, press the beef into an even layer to
    fill the skillet. Sprinkle with the onion. Cook over
    medium-high, undisturbed, until the meat is deeply
    browned underneath, 6 to 8 minutes. Sprinkle with the
    cumin, smoked paprika and oregano, and season with salt
    and pepper. Break up the beef into small pieces, then
    cook, stirring occasionally, until the onion is softened
    and the spices are fragrant, 2 to 4 minutes.

    Add the beans, including the liquid, and the tomato and
    simmer, stirring and scraping up browned bits, until the
    liquid has evaporated and the mixture starts to sizzle,
    8 to 10 minutes. Turn off the heat, stir in the lime
    juice and season with salt and pepper.

    Arrange the tortillas on a clean work surface. Sprinkle
    half the cheese across the center of the tortillas, left
    to right, leaving a 1" border. Top each with 2/3 cup of
    othe beef-bean mixture, followed by the remaining cheese
    Drizzle on hot sauce, if using. Fold the tortilla's
    short sides over the filling, then fold the bottom of
    the tortilla snugly over the filling. Tightly roll away
    from you until the burrito is sealed. Repeat with the
    other tortillas.

    When ready to eat, in a nonstick skillet over medium,
    place the burritos seam side down. Cook, turning
    occasionally, until golden all over, 3 to 5 minutes.
    Serve with desired toppings.

    TIP: To make ahead, prepare through Step 3. Let cool
    slightly, then wrap in aluminum foil. Refrigerate for up
    to 24 hours or freeze for up to 3 months. To reheat,
    remove the foil and wrap the burrito in a damp paper
    towel. Microwave, seam side down, until warm, 1 to 4
    minutes. Remove the towel and continue to Step 4.

    By: Ali Slagle

    Yield: 6 burritos

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jun 12 13:11:43 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Steve recently saw a long term plan for the roads in this area. We live off of West Holding but East Holding is a block or so closer to town.
    He said that the plan joined the 2 but wasn't specific enough for him
    to figure out how. We're just far enough off of the main road that we
    may not have to move.

    I assume that "Holding" is a street name.

    Yes, named for one of the older families in WF. They own the local
    propane distribution.

    I knew a guy who was the traffic engineer for my town. His take was
    that other than intersections of two arterial streets a 4 way stop
    would bt more efficient at moving traffic and giving all a "chance'.
    Second place (and on more busy intersections was called"Treadle
    Operated" traffic signals. They no longer use treadlesbut an
    induction coil installed DD> in/ under the pavement.

    The latter would probably work well in this area. Some years ago when a new housing development was put off of one of the bypass roads, they reconfigured the intersection of the bypass and another road so a road could be put in from the development. They made a rather convoluted
    left turn from the bypass to the older road; a traffic circle would
    have worked much better. Told my sister who's a civil engineer (road design/construction in Phoenix area); without seeing it, said there
    wasn't enough room for a circle. That's not true as we've seen (this
    area and other parts of the country) where there are circles that would fit well within the space available.

    New Jersey is well known for their "round abouts". And once one gets
    the hang of how tey work, they're very efficient. We have a few
    examples here - all but one well designed.

    We've got a few in town also. To make a left turn off the bypass onto
    the older street you have to make a left turn onto the new one, go down
    about a block and make a tight (We've seen big trucks get hung up in
    it.) left turn (basically a U turn) to go the other way. Then make a
    right turn where the old street dead ends onto the new one. Got it? (G)

    Another trick I've learned for making an exit to the left at a busy intersection is to make a right turn, get to the center lane ASAP
    then DD> find a parking lot or side street to use as a turn around and
    re-enter DD> the traffic stream in your originally intended direction.
    Beats DD> waiting forever (seemingly) for gaps in traffic to match in
    your DD> favour.

    We'd have to go up several blocks to the next light to make a left turn
    onto the bypasss with the amount of traffic that comes at us from the
    right sometimes. Every once in a while, somebody will stop and lrt us
    turn left from Wesst Holding; that is greatly appreciated.


    I keep a small supply of orange habanero chilies on hand. "Here y'go, miniature pumpkin." (evil grin). I also have a supply of "fun size"
    Mars candy for the littles. Haven't seen many T or T kids out for many years - even before the pandemic.

    We usually buy a couple of bags of candy, something like 3 Musketeers
    and Milky Way in the mini bar size. Any left over is enjoyed by us with one bar being just big enough to satisfy a chocolate craving.

    When I lived in Inglewood, Califunny I hung aroung with a bunch of
    air- craft engineers and student aircraft engineers for Northrop
    Instute of
    Technology. At Halloween one year we were passing out 7 oz cans of
    soda to the Tricky Treaters. One of the last was a kid dressed as a pirate.
    Most of the children, feeling something with weight fall into their
    sack gave a quick "Thanks, mister" and went on to the next house. The pirate kid opened his sack, looked down than said, in a gravelly
    voice, "You broke my f****ng cookies" before stomping off down the sidewalk.

    Sounds like the parents didn't do well raising that child.


    Title: Crispy Chicken Skin Tacos w/Habanero Salsa
    Categories: Poultry, Chilies, Fruits, Citrus, Salsa
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1/4 c Chopped cilantro
    More chopped cilantro and
    - green onion for garnish
    4 (or more) tortillas (use
    - corn tortillas if cooking
    - gluten-free)

    These make it a no go for us, especially the corn tortillas. Flour tortillas and no cilantro would make it work-able.

    You're offered a choice on the tortillas. I prefer wheat flour
    tortillas myself. The soapweed cooks down and has its "flavour" muted
    by the heat and mixing with the chilies and citrus. I certainly would
    not use it as a garnish.

    It's still one that I'd more likely to order in a Mexican restaurant
    than make for us.


    Here's a quickie burrito supper I got from my Ne York Times recipe
    feed.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Easy Burritos
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Chilies, Citrus, Cheese
    Yield: 6 servings


    That is easier. When our girls were home, I used to makequick burritos
    by heating tortillas and canned refried beans. While they were heating,
    I'd chop tomatoes and lettuce, grate cheese. All hot & chopped, supper
    was ready in about 15 minutes.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jun 14 05:58:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I assume that "Holding" is a street name.

    Yes, named for one of the older families in WF. They own the local
    propane distribution.

    Clears that up. Holding has many uses besides being used as a family
    name. Many family names come from the occupation/trade of and
    ancestor. Like Smith often had had a blacksmith as head of the family.
    Or Baker might refer to a pie/cookie/cake maker. I wonder if the early
    Holding was a banker. Bv)=

    I knew a guy who was the traffic engineer for my town. His take was
    that other than intersections of two arterial streets a 4 way stop
    would bt more efficient at moving traffic and giving all a "chance'.
    Second place (and on more busy intersections was called"Treadle
    Operated" traffic signals. They no longer use treadlesbut an
    induction coil installed DD> in/ under the pavement.

    The latter would probably work well in this area. Some years ago when a new housing development was put off of one of the bypass roads, they reconfigured the intersection of the bypass and another road so a road could be put in from the development. They made a rather convoluted
    left turn from the bypass to the older road; a traffic circle would
    have worked much better. Told my sister who's a civil engineer (road design/construction in Phoenix area); without seeing it, said there
    wasn't enough room for a circle. That's not true as we've seen (this
    area and other parts of the country) where there are circles that would fit well within the space available.

    New Jersey is well known for their "round abouts". And once one gets
    the hang of how tey work, they're very efficient. We have a few
    examples here - all but one well designed.

    We've got a few in town also. To make a left turn off the bypass onto
    the older street you have to make a left turn onto the new one, go down about a block and make a tight (We've seen big trucks get hung up in
    it.) left turn (basically a U turn) to go the other way. Then make a
    right turn where the old street dead ends onto the new one. Got it? (G)

    I know about big trucks and tight turns. Learned the hard way. I once
    was delivering a semi-trailer load of bottles to Anheuser-Bush's home
    plant in St. Louis and due to directions given by soeone who had never
    drive a semi on tight streets got in a mess making a turn. Someone had
    left a VW Beetle parked too close to the corner (illegally) and even
    though I ran up over the opposite curb the trailer tandems ran over the
    back of the poor Beetle - which did not do it a lot of good.

    I called the nabs and the officers told me I was not in any trouble as
    the car was parked illegally and to go on and make my delivery. They also
    gave me a better st of directions for next time and said they would deal
    with the car's owner. Bv)=

    Another trick I've learned for making an exit to the left at a busy intersection is to make a right turn, get to the center lane ASAP then find a parking lot or side street to use as a turn around and re-enter the traffic stream in your originally intended direction. Beats
    waiting forever (seemingly) for gaps in traffic to match in your
    favour.

    We'd have to go up several blocks to the next light to make a left turn onto the bypasss with the amount of traffic that comes at us from the right sometimes. Every once in a while, somebody will stop and lrt us
    turn left from Wesst Holding; that is greatly appreciated.

    I know the words to that song as well. My housemate refuses to back into
    the driveway so he can pull out onto the busy street like a normal deal.
    It sometimes takes him 10 minutes (or more) to get out of the drive.

    If there is enough traffic that I must "head-in" to the drive I will
    back into the yard and get a reorientation done so my car is pointed
    toward the street. Makes life a whole lot easier. Especially when I
    have a load of groceries in the trunk. My way puts the freight a lot
    closer to the door.

    I keep a small supply of orange habanero chilies on hand. "Here y'go, miniature pumpkin." (evil grin). I also have a supply of "fun size"
    Mars candy for the littles. Haven't seen many T or T kids out for many years - even before the pandemic.

    We usually buy a couple of bags of candy, something like 3 Musketeers
    and Milky Way in the mini bar size. Any left over is enjoyed by us with one bar being just big enough to satisfy a chocolate craving.

    When I lived in Inglewood, Califunny I hung aroung with a bunch of
    air- craft engineers and student aircraft engineers for Northrop
    Instute of Technology. At Halloween one year we were passing out
    7 oz cans of soda to the Tricky Treaters. One of the last was a
    kid dressed as a pirate.

    Most of the children, feeling something with weight fall into their
    sack gave a quick "Thanks, mister" and went on to the next house. The pirate kid opened his sack, looked down than said, in a gravelly
    voice, "You broke my f****ng cookies" before stomping off down the sidewalk.

    Sounds like the parents didn't do well raising that child.

    At least WRT acceptable language. Soap and water applied orally is a
    useful reinforcement tool whan giving a language lesson.

    Title: Crispy Chicken Skin Tacos w/Habanero Salsa
    Categories: Poultry, Chilies, Fruits, Citrus, Salsa
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1/4 c Chopped cilantro
    More chopped cilantro and
    - green onion for garnish
    4 (or more) tortillas (use
    - corn tortillas if cooking
    - gluten-free)

    These make it a no go for us, especially the corn tortillas. Flour tortillas and no cilantro would make it work-able.

    You're offered a choice on the tortillas. I prefer wheat flour
    tortillas myself. The soapweed cooks down and has its "flavour" muted
    by the heat and mixing with the chilies and citrus. I certainly would
    not use it as a garnish.

    It's still one that I'd more likely to order in a Mexican restaurant
    than make for us.

    I can understand that.

    Here's a quickie burrito supper I got from my Ne York Times recipe
    feed.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Easy Burritos
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Chilies, Citrus, Cheese
    Yield: 6 servings

    That is easier. When our girls were home, I used to makequick burritos
    by heating tortillas and canned refried beans. While they were heating, I'd chop tomatoes and lettuce, grate cheese. All hot & chopped, supper
    was ready in about 15 minutes.

    Never been a fan of bean burritos. In my world they require some meat,
    be it pork, beef, goat or whatever.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Carnitas Burrito
    Categories: Pork, Vegetables, Chiles, Herbs, Beans
    Yield: 6 burritos

    MMMMM-------------------------CARNITAS-------------------------------
    2 ts Kosher salt; divided
    2 ts Dried oregano
    3 ts Cumin
    1 ts (ea) smoked paprika, garlic
    - powder, onion powder, and
    - chilli spice mix
    1/2 ts Black pepper
    3 lb Boneless pork shoulder; in 3
    - inch pieces
    2 tb Olive or avocado oil
    6 cl Garlic; rough chopped
    1 md White onion; in large chunks
    2 Bay leaves
    1/3 c Fresh orange juice from 1 lg
    - orange
    1/3 c Fresh lime juice from 2
    - limes
    1 c Chicken broth

    MMMMM-------------------------BURRITOS-------------------------------
    6 10" flour tortillas
    1 1/2 c Cooked Cilantro-lime rice or
    - plain long-grain rice
    15 oz Can black beans; drained, rinsed
    1 c Pico de gallo
    Shredded cheese or cashew queso
    Jalapeno ranch dressing
    +=OR=+
    Sour cream
    Guacamole and sliced avocado

    Mix all of the spices in a small bowl. Rub the mixture
    into all sides of each piece of pork, using your
    fingertips to rub it in until the outside turns a red
    hue from the paprika and chili powder.

    Drizzle the olive oil into the bottom of the Instant Pot
    and turn it to the saute function until it's hot and
    shimmering. Working in batches, sear 4-5 pieces of pork
    shoulder for 2-3 minutes on each side, until crispy and
    brown. Transfer the seared pork to a cutting board.

    Pour in a bit more oil in the bottom of the pot and add
    the onion and cook to soften for 2-3 minutes, until
    translucent. Add the garlic and cook for another 1-2
    minutes, until fragrant.

    Pour in the lime juice, orange juice, broth, and bay
    leaves. Stir it togetheere, scraping any brown bits from
    the bottom of the pan. Cancel the saute setting and
    close the lid and turn the pressure valve to the sealing
    position.

    Cook on high pressure for 55 minutes. It will take about
    10 minutes for Instant Pot to come to pressure before it
    counts down. When the timer goes off, naturally release
    the Instant Pot (do nothing) for 10 minutes then turn
    the pressure release valve to quick release (release the
    remaining pressure).

    Heat the oven to broil. Use a slotted spoon to remove
    the cooked pork pieces from the Instant Pot onto a sheet
    pan. Shred the pork with two forks. It should fall apart
    easily.

    Spread it out evenly onto the sheet pan and broil it in
    the oven for 3-5 minutes, turning the pan once or twice
    to crisp it evenly. Serve warm in tortillas, a burrito,
    or in a burrito bowl.

    When you're ready to serve, warm the burrito shells by
    heating over an open gas stove flame for 30 seconds on
    each side. You can also put them in the microwave for 30
    seconds or use a large cast-iron skillet to heat on both
    sides for 20-30 seconds each.

    Place about 1/4 cup of rice in the middle of the
    tortilla then top with black beans and crispy carnitas.
    Finish with your favorite toppings.

    To roll the burrito, fold half of the burrito over the
    toppings and tuck it under, securing the toppings
    against the shell. Fold in both sides then finish
    rolling into a burrito. Serve whole or slice in half.

    By Molly Thompson

    RECIPE FROM: https://whatmollymade.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jun 15 13:17:51 2024
    Hi Dave,


    I assume that "Holding" is a street name.

    Yes, named for one of the older families in WF. They own the local
    propane distribution.

    Clears that up. Holding has many uses besides being used as a family
    name. Many family names come from the occupation/trade of and
    ancestor. Like Smith often had had a blacksmith as head of the family.
    Or Baker might refer to a pie/cookie/cake maker. I wonder if the
    early Holding was a banker. Bv)=

    I've no idea; the town has been around for over 200 years. Not sure when
    the Holdings came but it was long before our time here. (G)


    New Jersey is well known for their "round abouts". And once one gets
    the hang of how tey work, they're very efficient. We have a few
    examples here - all but one well designed.

    We've got a few in town also. To make a left turn off the bypass onto
    the older street you have to make a left turn onto the new one, go down about a block and make a tight (We've seen big trucks get hung up in
    it.) left turn (basically a U turn) to go the other way. Then make a
    right turn where the old street dead ends onto the new one. Got it? (G)

    I know about big trucks and tight turns. Learned the hard way. I once
    was delivering a semi-trailer load of bottles to Anheuser-Bush's home plant in St. Louis and due to directions given by soeone who had never drive a semi on tight streets got in a mess making a turn. Someone had left a VW Beetle parked too close to the corner (illegally) and even though I ran up over the opposite curb the trailer tandems ran over
    the back of the poor Beetle - which did not do it a lot of good.

    OOPS! Sounds like what Steve's mom told us some years ago. Back in 1977
    a blizzard came thru western NY, National Guard was called out to clear
    roads. A friend of my MIL had just bought a brand new car but had to
    abandon it in the heavy snow. Guard vehicle with a plow just ran right
    over the top of it.

    I called the nabs and the officers told me I was not in any trouble
    as DD> the car was parked illegally and to go on and make my delivery.
    They DD> also gave me a better st of directions for next time and said
    they DD> would deal with the car's owner. Bv)=

    Whew! We've had a few close calls but nothing like that.


    Another trick I've learned for making an exit to the left at a busy intersection is to make a right turn, get to the center lane ASAP then find a parking lot or side street to use as a turn around and re-enter
    the traffic stream in your originally intended direction. Beats

    We'd have to go up several blocks to the next light to make a left turn onto the bypasss with the amount of traffic that comes at us from the right sometimes. Every once in a while, somebody will stop and lrt us
    turn left from Wesst Holding; that is greatly appreciated.

    I know the words to that song as well. My housemate refuses to back
    into the driveway so he can pull out onto the busy street like a
    normal deal. It sometimes takes him 10 minutes (or more) to get out of
    the drive.

    Getting out of the driveway isn't bad, it's getting on to the main road
    that is. Steve usually "combat parks" (backs in so front is facing out)
    so we can see what's coming. Didn't do it when we first moved to WF at
    the rental house and somebody came around the corner a bit sharp. Missed
    us but Steve made it a habit to back in.

    If there is enough traffic that I must "head-in" to the drive I
    will DD> back into the yard and get a reorientation done so my car is
    pointed DD> toward the street. Makes life a whole lot easier.
    Especially when I DD> have a load of groceries in the trunk. My way
    puts the freight a lot DD> closer to the door.

    Helps to be able to unload closer to the kitchen. We have the camper in
    the driveway so can't get too close. Kitchen is at the back of the house
    so no matter what, have some distance to go with groceries.


    When I lived in Inglewood, Califunny I hung aroung with a bunch of
    air- craft engineers and student aircraft engineers for Northrop
    Instute of Technology. At Halloween one year we were passing out
    7 oz cans of soda to the Tricky Treaters. One of the last was a
    kid dressed as a pirate.

    Most of the children, feeling something with weight fall into their
    sack gave a quick "Thanks, mister" and went on to the next house. The pirate kid opened his sack, looked down than said, in a gravelly
    voice, "You broke my f****ng cookies" before stomping off down the sidewalk.

    Sounds like the parents didn't do well raising that child.

    At least WRT acceptable language. Soap and water applied orally is a useful reinforcement tool whan giving a language lesson.

    True. He's a kid that maybe should have been given a mini pumpkin (G)
    instead.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jun 15 13:30:52 2024
    Hi Dave,

    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<

    More chopped cilantro and
    - green onion for garnish
    4 (or more) tortillas (use
    - corn tortillas if cooking
    - gluten-free)

    These make it a no go for us, especially the corn tortillas. Flour tortillas and no cilantro would make it work-able.

    You're offered a choice on the tortillas. I prefer wheat flour
    tortillas myself. The soapweed cooks down and has its "flavour" muted
    by the heat and mixing with the chilies and citrus. I certainly would
    not use it as a garnish.

    It's still one that I'd more likely to order in a Mexican restaurant
    than make for us.

    I can understand that.

    Some things aren't worth the fuss for me to do at home.


    Here's a quickie burrito supper I got from my Ne York Times recipe
    feed.


    Title: Easy Burritos
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Chilies, Citrus, Cheese
    Yield: 6 servings

    That is easier. When our girls were home, I used to makequick burritos
    by heating tortillas and canned refried beans. While they were heating, I'd chop tomatoes and lettuce, grate cheese. All hot & chopped, supper
    was ready in about 15 minutes.

    Never been a fan of bean burritos. In my world they require some meat,
    be it pork, beef, goat or whatever.

    Couldn't always afford it on one income. Besides, the beans, cheese and
    whole wheat tortilla made a complete protein.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Are you sure you really want to know that?

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jun 17 06:03:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I know about big trucks and tight turns. Learned the hard way. I once
    was delivering a semi-trailer load of bottles to Anheuser-Bush's home plant in St. Louis and due to directions given by soeone who had never drive a semi on tight streets got in a mess making a turn. Someone had left a VW Beetle parked too close to the corner (illegally) and even though I ran up over the opposite curb the trailer tandems ran over
    the back of the poor Beetle - which did not do it a lot of good.

    OOPS! Sounds like what Steve's mom told us some years ago. Back in 1977
    a blizzard came thru western NY, National Guard was called out to clear roads. A friend of my MIL had just bought a brand new car but had to abandon it in the heavy snow. Guard vehicle with a plow just ran right over the top of it.

    My town has "Snow Rules" that are put into effect when heavy snow is
    expected. Basically there are designated "snow routes" where no parking
    on the street is allowed. Side streets are not affected ... and get
    pplowed out later. Cars parked on those streets are subject to being
    included IN/UNDER the snow bank.

    I called the nabs and the officers told me I was not in any trouble
    as the car was parked illegally and to go on and make my delivery.
    They also gave me a better st of directions for next time and said
    they would deal with the car's owner. Bv)=

    Whew! We've had a few close calls but nothing like that.

    Another trick I've learned for making an exit to the left at a busy intersection is to make a right turn, get to the center lane ASAP then find a parking lot or side street to use as a turn around and re-enter
    the traffic stream in your originally intended direction. Beats

    We'd have to go up several blocks to the next light to make a left turn onto the bypasss with the amount of traffic that comes at us from the right sometimes. Every once in a while, somebody will stop and lrt us
    turn left from Wesst Holding; that is greatly appreciated.

    I know the words to that song as well. My housemate refuses to back
    into the driveway so he can pull out onto the busy street like a
    normal deal. It sometimes takes him 10 minutes (or more) to get out of
    the drive.

    Getting out of the driveway isn't bad, it's getting on to the main road that is. Steve usually "combat parks" (backs in so front is facing out)
    so we can see what's coming. Didn't do it when we first moved to WF at
    the rental house and somebody came around the corner a bit sharp.
    Missed us but Steve made it a habit to back in.

    If there is enough traffic that I must "head-in" to the drive I
    will back into the yard and get a reorientation done so my car is
    pointed toward the street. Makes life a whole lot easier. Especially
    when I have a load of groceries in the trunk. My way puts the freight
    a lot closer to the door.

    Helps to be able to unload closer to the kitchen. We have the camper in the driveway so can't get too close. Kitchen is at the back of the
    house so no matter what, have some distance to go with groceries.

    I have to go through the front room, the common (dining) room at the
    center of the house then into the kitchen. Or take the sidewalk across
    the front of the house, open the gate, and go halfway down that side to
    the back door which opens off the kitchen. Sometimes that two-wheel dolly
    comes in very handy.

    When I lived in Inglewood, Califunny I hung aroung with a bunch of
    air- craft engineers and student aircraft engineers for Northrop
    Instute of Technology. At Halloween one year we were passing out
    7 oz cans of soda to the Tricky Treaters. One of the last was a
    kid dressed as a pirate.

    Most of the children, feeling something with weight fall into their
    sack gave a quick "Thanks, mister" and went on to the next house. The pirate kid opened his sack, looked down than said, in a gravelly
    voice, "You broke my f****ng cookies" before stomping off down the sidewalk.

    Sounds like the parents didn't do well raising that child.

    At least WRT acceptable language. Soap and water applied orally is a useful reinforcement tool whan giving a language lesson.

    True. He's a kid that maybe should have been given a mini pumpkin (G) instead.

    I hadn't learned about chilies at that point of my existence. But, you're correct. Doubt that it would have taught him anything, though.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dark Chocolate Halloween Chip Cookies
    Categories: Cookies, Chocolate, Snacks, Nuts
    Yield: 36 servings

    1/2 lb Butter; softened
    1 c Granulated sugar
    1/2 c Light brown sugar
    2 lg Eggs
    1 ts Vanilla extract
    2 1/4 c A-P flour
    2/3 c Hershey's special dark cocoa
    - powder
    1 ts Baking soda
    1/4 ts Salt
    1 c (ea) chocolate and peanut
    - butter M & Ms

    Set oven @ 350oF/175oC.

    In a large bowl with an electric mixer, beat butter and
    sugars until light and fluffy. Add eggs and vanilla; mix
    well.

    Add flour, cocoa powder, baking soda, and salt; mix
    until combined. Stir in 3/4 cup Halloween candy and 3/4
    cup of peanut butter candies into batter; set remaining
    candies aside. Refrigerate dough 30 minutes.

    Scoop tablespoons of dough onto baking sheet 2" apart.
    Top dough with reserved candies. Bake 10 to 12 minutes
    just until set. Cool on baking sheets 2 minutes, then
    remove cookies to a wire rack to cool completely.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.mrfood.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jun 17 06:06:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    It's still one that I'd more likely to order in a Mexican restaurant
    than make for us.

    I can understand that.

    Some things aren't worth the fuss for me to do at home.

    As I get older I get more laid back/lazy. And I get inventive since I'm
    cooking basically for one.

    Here's a quickie burrito supper I got from my New York Times recipe
    feed.

    Title: Easy Burritos
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Chilies, Citrus, Cheese
    Yield: 6 servings

    That is easier. When our girls were home, I used to makequick burritos
    by heating tortillas and canned refried beans. While they were heating, I'd chop tomatoes and lettuce, grate cheese. All hot & chopped, supper
    was ready in about 15 minutes.

    Never been a fan of bean burritos. In my world they require some
    meat, be it pork, beef, goat or whatever.

    Couldn't always afford it on one income. Besides, the beans, cheese
    and whole wheat tortilla made a complete protein.

    I was at GFS picking up soup bases and a 3# package of bacon when I
    noticed that they had a special offer on Dos Rios Taco Meat. U$1.79
    for a 1 pound chub. Three of those went home and into the freezer.

    Not my favourite taco filling - but one of the chubs and a 31 oz can
    of Old El Paso Refried Beans w/green chilies in the baby crockpot with
    a bag of Doritos and some shredded cheese made a decent supper for both
    me and Dennis. Leftovers cleaned up and pre-wash done by Jasper, Eva,
    and Izzy (Dennis' grand-dogs).

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Jun 17 11:52:39 2024
    Hi Dave,

    though I ran up over the opposite curb the trailer tandems ran over
    the back of the poor Beetle - which did not do it a lot of good.

    OOPS! Sounds like what Steve's mom told us some years ago. Back in 1977
    a blizzard came thru western NY, National Guard was called out to clear roads. A friend of my MIL had just bought a brand new car but had to abandon it in the heavy snow. Guard vehicle with a plow just ran right over the top of it.

    My town has "Snow Rules" that are put into effect when heavy snow is expected. Basically there are designated "snow routes" where no

    Most towns in heavy snow areas do have winter parking rules. IIRC, this happened on one of the main roads in the area, between Rochester and
    where he lived, west of the city. Lake effect snow storms produce lots
    of the white stuff. (G)


    I called the nabs and the officers told me I was not in any trouble
    as the car was parked illegally and to go on and make my delivery.

    Whew! We've had a few close calls but nothing like that.

    Another trick I've learned for making an exit to the left at a busy intersection is to make a right turn, get to the center lane ASAP then find a parking lot or side street to use as a turn around and re-enter
    the traffic stream in your originally intended direction. Beats

    We'd have to go up several blocks to the next light to make a left turn onto the bypasss with the amount of traffic that comes at us from the right sometimes. Every once in a while, somebody will stop and let
    us RH> turn left from Wesst Holding; that is greatly appreciated.

    It happened yesterday, second Sunday morning in a row.

    I know the words to that song as well. My housemate refuses to back
    into the driveway so he can pull out onto the busy street like a
    normal deal. It sometimes takes him 10 minutes (or more) to get out of
    the drive.

    Getting out of the driveway isn't bad, it's getting on to the main road that is. Steve usually "combat parks" (backs in so front is facing out)
    so we can see what's coming. Didn't do it when we first moved to WF at
    the rental house and somebody came around the corner a bit sharp.
    Missed us but Steve made it a habit to back in.

    If there is enough traffic that I must "head-in" to the drive I
    will back into the yard and get a reorientation done so my car is
    pointed toward the street. Makes life a whole lot easier. Especially
    when I have a load of groceries in the trunk. My way puts the freight
    a lot closer to the door.

    Helps to be able to unload closer to the kitchen. We have the camper in the driveway so can't get too close. Kitchen is at the back of the
    house so no matter what, have some distance to go with groceries.

    I have to go through the front room, the common (dining) room at the center of the house then into the kitchen. Or take the sidewalk across
    the front of the house, open the gate, and go halfway down that side
    to the back door which opens off the kitchen. Sometimes that two-wheel dolly comes in very handy.

    We have to go up the front steps, into the living room, into the kitchen
    OR down the walk along side the house, up 3 steps to the deck and into
    the kitchen that way. Easiest is to go the first way unless we're moving
    in something big like a freezer.


    Most of the children, feeling something with weight fall into their
    sack gave a quick "Thanks, mister" and went on to the next house. The pirate kid opened his sack, looked down than said, in a gravelly
    voice, "You broke my f****ng cookies" before stomping off down the sidewalk.

    Sounds like the parents didn't do well raising that child.

    At least WRT acceptable language. Soap and water applied orally is a useful reinforcement tool whan giving a language lesson.

    True. He's a kid that maybe should have been given a mini pumpkin (G) instead.

    I hadn't learned about chilies at that point of my existence. But,
    you're correct. Doubt that it would have taught him anything, though.

    Probably not, at that stage of life.

    We tried a new sushi place yesterday for Father's Day--got some spicy
    fried chicken "nuggets" on greens, a California roll with scallops and a
    shrimp tempura roll. All good, but not quite as good as Taste of Japan
    up in West Henrietta, NY. Nancy introduced us to that place; we try to
    stop in every so often when we're in the area.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Jun 17 12:03:46 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Some things aren't worth the fuss for me to do at home.

    As I get older I get more laid back/lazy. And I get inventive since
    I'm cooking basically for one.

    I understand that. Tonight's supper is grilled chicken, cold potato
    salad (left over from the other day) and somethine else TBD. Steve is
    grilling the chicken so I've very little to do.


    Here's a quickie burrito supper I got from my New York Times recipe
    feed.

    Title: Easy Burritos
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Chilies, Citrus, Cheese
    Yield: 6 servings

    That is easier. When our girls were home, I used to makequick burritos
    by heating tortillas and canned refried beans. While they were heating, I'd chop tomatoes and lettuce, grate cheese. All hot & chopped, supper
    was ready in about 15 minutes.

    Never been a fan of bean burritos. In my world they require some
    meat, be it pork, beef, goat or whatever.

    Couldn't always afford it on one income. Besides, the beans, cheese
    and whole wheat tortilla made a complete protein.

    I was at GFS picking up soup bases and a 3# package of bacon when I noticed that they had a special offer on Dos Rios Taco Meat. U$1.79
    for a 1 pound chub. Three of those went home and into the freezer.

    Sounds like a good deal to me. Taco meat can be used for much more than
    tacos.

    Not my favourite taco filling - but one of the chubs and a 31 oz can
    of Old El Paso Refried Beans w/green chilies in the baby crockpot with
    a bag of Doritos and some shredded cheese made a decent supper for
    both me and Dennis. Leftovers cleaned up and pre-wash done by Jasper,
    Eva,
    and Izzy (Dennis' grand-dogs).

    I'd have possibly made a taco salad. Went to Wegman's the other day and
    they were out of the black bean tortilla chips we usually buy for Steve. Hopefully they will be restocked later this week; we're not out yet but
    running quite low.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jun 19 07:29:52 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Some things aren't worth the fuss for me to do at home.

    As I get older I get more laid back/lazy. And I get inventive since
    I'm cooking basically for one.

    I understand that. Tonight's supper is grilled chicken, cold potato
    salad (left over from the other day) and somethine else TBD. Steve is grilling the chicken so I've very little to do.

    Were I doing something like that I'd use a "steam-in-bag" veg from the freezer. California medley or stir-fry would be nice. Or chopped broccoli/ caulifloer.

    Here's a quickie burrito supper I got from my New York Times recipe
    feed.

    Title: Easy Burritos
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Chilies, Citrus, Cheese
    Yield: 6 servings

    That is easier. When our girls were home, I used to makequick burritos
    by heating tortillas and canned refried beans. While they were heating, I'd chop tomatoes and lettuce, grate cheese. All hot & chopped, supper
    was ready in about 15 minutes.

    Never been a fan of bean burritos. In my world they require some
    meat, be it pork, beef, goat or whatever.

    Couldn't always afford it on one income. Besides, the beans, cheese
    and whole wheat tortilla made a complete protein.

    I was at GFS picking up soup bases and a 3# package of bacon when I noticed that they had a special offer on Dos Rios Taco Meat. U$1.79
    for a 1 pound chub. Three of those went home and into the freezer.

    Sounds like a good deal to me. Taco meat can be used for much more than tacos.

    Not my favourite taco filling - but one of the chubs and a 31 oz can
    of Old El Paso Refried Beans w/green chilies in the baby crockpot with
    a bag of Doritos and some shredded cheese made a decent supper for
    both me and Dennis. Leftovers cleaned up and pre-wash done by Jasper,
    Eva, and Izzy (Dennis' grand-dogs).

    I'd have possibly made a taco salad. Went to Wegman's the other day and they were out of the black bean tortilla chips we usually buy for
    Steve. Hopefully they will be restocked later this week; we're not out
    yet but running quite low.

    I'm bot big on taco salad at home. And there are usually much better
    picks at the Mexican places I visit. One thing I do like is called a
    "chalupa" . made my local fake Mex chain, Taco Gringo. It's like a taco
    salad laid flat on a 10" flour tortilla, spread with taco mean, refried
    beans, diced toatoes, cheese, shredded lettuce, pickled jalapenos (opt)
    and guacamole/salsa. It cmes as a Chalupa or as a Jr. Chalups. One of
    the Juniors is a filling meal for one. One evening I was feeling
    "sporty" and ordered the full Chalupa - only to discover that it was
    exactly the same as the Junior version. For U$3 more.

    This is a sorta/kinda copycat of that dish ...

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Loaded Beef Chalupas
    Categories: Beef, Breads, Vegetables, Greens, Chilies
    Yield: 4 servings

    4 (10") flour tortillas
    3 tb Olive oil; divided
    1 c Diced onion; or more
    2 cl Garlic; minced
    1 lb Lean ground beef
    1 oz Env taco seasoning
    1/2 c Sour cream
    2 c Shredded lettuce
    14 1/2 oz Diced tomatoes w'green
    - chilies; drained
    1 c Shredded Mexican cheese
    - blend or Cheddar

    In large skillet set over medium heat, add 1 tb oil. Add
    onion and garlic; cook, stirring occasionally, for 3 to
    4 minutes or until softened. Add beef and taco
    seasoning. Cook, stirring occasionally and breaking up
    beef, for 6 to 8 minutes or until beef is starting to
    brown.

    Fry the tortillas in remaing oil until crisped to your
    liking. Put on plates.

    Divide beef mixture among tortillas and top with sour
    cream, lettuce, tomato and cheese.

    If desired, load up chalupas as well with guacamole,
    pickled jalapeno pepper slices, sliced pitted olives and
    hot sauce.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jun 19 07:57:01 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    though I ran up over the opposite curb the trailer tandems ran over
    the back of the poor Beetle - which did not do it a lot of good.

    OOPS! Sounds like what Steve's mom told us some years ago. Back in 1977
    a blizzard came thru western NY, National Guard was called out to clear roads. A friend of my MIL had just bought a brand new car but had to abandon it in the heavy snow. Guard vehicle with a plow just ran right over the top of it.

    That's why there is insurance. Especially full-coverage insurance. I only
    carry the full-covarage id I have a loan on the vehicle - because (a) the lender requires it and (b) I am avarse to payng for a dead horse. Bv)=

    Otherwise I just have liability only to cover the other party if the
    damage is my fault. Damage to my car is paid out of my own pocket - it
    reminds me "don't do that again".

    My town has "Snow Rules" that are put into effect when heavy snow is expected. Basically there are designated "snow routes" where no

    Most towns in heavy snow areas do have winter parking rules. IIRC, this happened on one of the main roads in the area, between Rochester and
    where he lived, west of the city. Lake effect snow storms produce lots
    of the white stuff. (G)

    I've met that "Lake effect" sone in a number of locations - Chicago area, Detroit/Toledo region, and around the "Mistake on the Lake", Cleveland.

    We'd have to go up several blocks to the next light to make a left turn onto the bypasss with the amount of traffic that comes at us from the right sometimes. Every once in a while, somebody will stop and let
    us RH> turn left from Wesst Holding; that is greatly appreciated.

    It happened yesterday, second Sunday morning in a row.

    Do y'think Sunday might have something to do with that? Bv)=

    I know the words to that song as well. My housemate refuses to back
    into the driveway so he can pull out onto the busy street like a
    normal deal. It sometimes takes him 10 minutes (or more) to get out of
    the drive.

    Getting out of the driveway isn't bad, it's getting on to the main road that is. Steve usually "combat parks" (backs in so front is facing out)
    so we can see what's coming. Didn't do it when we first moved to WF at
    the rental house and somebody came around the corner a bit sharp.
    Missed us but Steve made it a habit to back in.

    AutoZone reuires their delivery drivers to back-in when parking since it
    is safer when pulling out. The only exceptions allowed are if one can
    pull straight ahead from the parkig spot (no obstacles like a parking
    blocks or other impediment).

    8<----- SLICE ----->8

    I have to go through the front room, the common (dining) room at the center of the house then into the kitchen. Or take the sidewalk across
    the front of the house, open the gate, and go halfway down that side
    to the back door which opens off the kitchen. Sometimes that two-wheel dolly comes in very handy.

    We have to go up the front steps, into the living room, into the
    kitchen OR down the walk along side the house, up 3 steps to the deck
    and into the kitchen that way. Easiest is to go the first way unless
    we're moving in something big like a freezer.

    When/if I build my dream kitchen/house the garage will share a wall and
    wide door with the kitchen. When I was growing up both in town or on the
    farm the kitchen was the center of family life - even though there was a
    front room/parlor, etc. That was for entertaining "outsiders".

    8<----- AGAIN ----->8

    We tried a new sushi place yesterday for Father's Day--got some spicy fried chicken "nuggets" on greens, a California roll with scallops and
    a shrimp tempura roll. All good, but not quite as good as Taste of
    Japan up in West Henrietta, NY. Nancy introduced us to that place; we
    try to stop in every so often when we're in the area.

    I've tried to like sushi as a dish several times. It will never be one
    of my favourites, apparently. I like amlost mall of the things that go
    into it - from the rice which gives it its name, to the various veg and
    meats, etc wrapped up in the sushi rice. Individually. Even the sashimi
    (raw fish) at least some of it. Just not as a "dish" or entree.

    My favourite Japanese thing, overall, it tempure.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dirty Dave's Sort-Of Tempura Batter
    Categories: Five, Breads, Deep-fry
    Yield: 7 Servings

    5 tb A-P flour
    3 c Aunt Jemima's Deluxe easy
    - pour pancake batter mix *
    1/4 ts Baking soda
    3 1/2 c Club soda; room temp
    1 1/2 c Water

    * Or Aunt Pajamas (copycat) Pancake Mix (separate recipe)

    I first made this batter for a house party. I don't
    remember where I swiped the recipe from - but, it's
    mine now. Works well if you substitute beer for the
    water, too. But it alters the flavour profile.

    Combine the flour/pancake mix and baking soda in a
    deep bowl. Stirring constantly with a whisk or spoon
    pour in the club soda and water in a slow stream and
    continue to stir until the mixture is a smooth thin
    cream.

    Strain the batter through a fine sieve set over a
    clean bowl pressing down hard on any lumps with the
    back of a large spoon.

    Dip vegetables, shrimp, etc. in batter and drop into
    the deep-fryer or fondue pot with oil at 350ºF-375ºF.
    (175ºC-190ºC)

    Cook until batter is a nice golden brown and crispy.

    MM Format by Dave Drum - 02 August 1999

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jun 19 19:45:49 2024
    Hi Dave,


    As I get older I get more laid back/lazy. And I get inventive since
    I'm cooking basically for one.

    I understand that. Tonight's supper is grilled chicken, cold potato
    salad (left over from the other day) and somethine else TBD. Steve is grilling the chicken so I've very little to do.

    Were I doing something like that I'd use a "steam-in-bag" veg from the freezer. California medley or stir-fry would be nice. Or chopped
    broccoli/ caulifloer.

    I had some fresh broccoli on hand so cut some up and steamed it in the microwave. I'm buying more fresh veggies now than I did years ago, used
    to buy a lot of frozen. Having a Wegman's nearby and access to a local
    farmer's market has made a big difference.


    I was at GFS picking up soup bases and a 3# package of bacon when I noticed that they had a special offer on Dos Rios Taco Meat. U$1.79
    for a 1 pound chub. Three of those went home and into the freezer.

    Sounds like a good deal to me. Taco meat can be used for much more than tacos.

    Not my favourite taco filling - but one of the chubs and a 31 oz can
    of Old El Paso Refried Beans w/green chilies in the baby crockpot with
    a bag of Doritos and some shredded cheese made a decent supper for
    both me and Dennis. Leftovers cleaned up and pre-wash done by Jasper,
    Eva, and Izzy (Dennis' grand-dogs).

    I'd have possibly made a taco salad. Went to Wegman's the other day and they were out of the black bean tortilla chips we usually buy for
    Steve. Hopefully they will be restocked later this week; we're not out
    yet but running quite low.

    I'm bot big on taco salad at home. And there are usually much better
    picks at the Mexican places I visit. One thing I do like is called a "chalupa" . made my local fake Mex chain, Taco Gringo. It's like a
    taco salad laid flat on a 10" flour tortilla, spread with taco mean, refried beans, diced toatoes, cheese, shredded lettuce, pickled
    jalapenos (opt) and guacamole/salsa. It cmes as a Chalupa or as a Jr.

    Sounds like something I'd try. We've got Taco Bell plus several Mexican restaurants in/around WF. One of the latter, that had been around since
    before we moved here, closed last year, don't know why but it was one of
    our favorites.

    Chalups. One of DD> the Juniors is a filling meal for one. One
    evening I was feeling DD> "sporty" and ordered the full Chalupa - only
    to discover that it was DD> exactly the same as the Junior version. For
    U$3 more.

    Now you know. (G)


    This is a sorta/kinda copycat of that dish ...


    Title: Loaded Beef Chalupas
    Categories: Beef, Breads, Vegetables, Greens, Chilies
    Yield: 4 servings

    Looks good--and very filling.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jun 19 19:59:32 2024
    Hi Dave,


    though I ran up over the opposite curb the trailer tandems ran over
    the back of the poor Beetle - which did not do it a lot of good.

    OOPS! Sounds like what Steve's mom told us some years ago. Back in 1977
    a blizzard came thru western NY, National Guard was called out to clear roads. A friend of my MIL had just bought a brand new car but had to abandon it in the heavy snow. Guard vehicle with a plow just ran right over the top of it.

    That's why there is insurance. Especially full-coverage insurance. I
    only carry the full-covarage id I have a loan on the vehicle - because
    (a) the lender requires it and (b) I am avarse to payng for a dead
    horse. Bv)=

    Otherwise I just have liability only to cover the other party if the damage is my fault. Damage to my car is paid out of my own pocket - it reminds me "don't do that again".

    Not sure what we have but the truck and camper are both paid off. Took
    out a loan for the truck but paid it off earlier this year.


    My town has "Snow Rules" that are put into effect when heavy snow is expected. Basically there are designated "snow routes" where no

    Most towns in heavy snow areas do have winter parking rules. IIRC, this happened on one of the main roads in the area, between Rochester and
    where he lived, west of the city. Lake effect snow storms produce lots
    of the white stuff. (G)

    I've met that "Lake effect" sone in a number of locations - Chicago
    area, Detroit/Toledo region, and around the "Mistake on the Lake", Cleveland.

    Makes me glad we don't live up there. We might get a dusting of snow or
    ice once or twice during the winter but most often it's gone the next
    day. Not like the year we got 18" on the coast--Steve had to hike out to
    the local supermarket for some supplies but we didn't lose power during
    it.

    We'd have to go up several blocks to the next light to make a left
    turn RH> onto the bypasss with the amount of traffic that comes at us
    from the RH> right sometimes. Every once in a while, somebody will stop
    and let RH> us RH> turn left from Wesst Holding; that is greatly
    appreciated.

    It happened yesterday, second Sunday morning in a row.

    Do y'think Sunday might have something to do with that? Bv)=

    There's a big Catholic church down the street from us, several services
    on Sunday so could have been people heading to confession and mass.


    Getting out of the driveway isn't bad, it's getting on to the main road that is. Steve usually "combat parks" (backs in so front is facing out)
    so we can see what's coming. Didn't do it when we first moved to WF at
    the rental house and somebody came around the corner a bit sharp.
    Missed us but Steve made it a habit to back in.

    AutoZone reuires their delivery drivers to back-in when parking since
    it is safer when pulling out. The only exceptions allowed are if one
    can
    pull straight ahead from the parkig spot (no obstacles like a parking blocks or other impediment).

    Smart, I'll have to ask our (retired) UPS driver if they have a similar
    rule.


    8<----- SLICE ----->8

    I have to go through the front room, the common (dining) room at the center of the house then into the kitchen. Or take the sidewalk across
    the front of the house, open the gate, and go halfway down that side
    to the back door which opens off the kitchen. Sometimes that two-wheel dolly comes in very handy.

    We have to go up the front steps, into the living room, into the
    kitchen OR down the walk along side the house, up 3 steps to the deck
    and into the kitchen that way. Easiest is to go the first way unless
    we're moving in something big like a freezer.

    When/if I build my dream kitchen/house the garage will share a wall
    and wide door with the kitchen. When I was growing up both in town or
    on the farm the kitchen was the center of family life - even though
    there was a front room/parlor, etc. That was for entertaining
    "outsiders".

    I think it would be easier to bump out our back wall, increase the
    pantry size and make a bigger kitchen over all. I've grown up with/had
    smaller kitchens but have thought about getting a big one at one time or
    other.

    8<----- AGAIN ----->8

    We tried a new sushi place yesterday for Father's Day--got some spicy fried chicken "nuggets" on greens, a California roll with scallops and
    a shrimp tempura roll. All good, but not quite as good as Taste of
    Japan up in West Henrietta, NY. Nancy introduced us to that place; we
    try to stop in every so often when we're in the area.

    I've tried to like sushi as a dish several times. It will never be one
    of my favourites, apparently. I like amlost mall of the things that go into it - from the rice which gives it its name, to the various veg
    and meats, etc wrapped up in the sushi rice. Individually. Even the sashimi (raw fish) at least some of it. Just not as a "dish" or
    entree.

    My favourite Japanese thing, overall, it tempure.

    It took a trip to ToJ for Steve to develop a liking of it. I'd had a bit
    here and there over the years, enough to know I like it, but never a
    whole meal of it.


    ---
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jun 21 06:24:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    OOPS! Sounds like what Steve's mom told us some years ago. Back in 1977
    a blizzard came thru western NY, National Guard was called out to clear roads. A friend of my MIL had just bought a brand new car but had to abandon it in the heavy snow. Guard vehicle with a plow just ran right over the top of it.

    That's why there is insurance. Especially full-coverage insurance. I
    only carry the full-covarage id I have a loan on the vehicle - because
    (a) the lender requires it and (b) I am avarse to payng for a dead
    horse. Bv)=

    Otherwise I just have liability only to cover the other party if the damage is my fault. Damage to my car is paid out of my own pocket - it reminds me "don't do that again".

    Not sure what we have but the truck and camper are both paid off. Took
    out a loan for the truck but paid it off earlier this year.

    I once bought a car at one of those "Buy Here Pay Here" thieves. They
    wouldn't sell it for ca$h since the usurious interest is how they make
    their money. I did the math and found with the price of the vehicle and
    the payments it would add up to a bit over 2X tha ca$h price. Since my
    state has a law that prohibits penalties for early pay-off there was not
    one thing they could do when my first instalment was for the entire
    price of the car plus one period's interest. Just give me the title and
    grumble to themselves.

    My town has "Snow Rules" that are put into effect when heavy snow is expected. Basically there are designated "snow routes" where no

    Most towns in heavy snow areas do have winter parking rules. IIRC, this happened on one of the main roads in the area, between Rochester and
    where he lived, west of the city. Lake effect snow storms produce lots
    of the white stuff. (G)

    I've met that "Lake effect" sone in a number of locations - Chicago
    area, Detroit/Toledo region, and around the "Mistake on the Lake", Cleveland.

    Makes me glad we don't live up there. We might get a dusting of snow or ice once or twice during the winter but most often it's gone the next
    day. Not like the year we got 18" on the coast--Steve had to hike out
    to the local supermarket for some supplies but we didn't lose power
    during it.

    Sounds like my area last year. What climate change? I hope Wake Forest
    is at enough elevation that it doesn't suffer the rising seas that are
    plaguing New Bern, Beaufort and Jacksonville.

    We'd have to go up several blocks to the next light to make a left
    turn onto the bypasss with the amount of traffic that comes at us
    from the right sometimes. Every once in a while, somebody will stop
    and let us turn left from Wesst Holding; that is greatly appreciated.

    It happened yesterday, second Sunday morning in a row.

    Do y'think Sunday might have something to do with that? Bv)=

    There's a big Catholic church down the street from us, several services
    on Sunday so could have been people heading to confession and mass.

    Getting out of the driveway isn't bad, it's getting on to the main road that is. Steve usually "combat parks" (backs in so front is facing out)
    so we can see what's coming. Didn't do it when we first moved to WF at
    the rental house and somebody came around the corner a bit sharp.
    Missed us but Steve made it a habit to back in.

    AutoZone reuires their delivery drivers to back-in when parking since
    it is safer when pulling out. The only exceptions allowed are if one
    can pull straight ahead from the parkig spot (no obstacles like a
    parking block or other impediment).

    Smart, I'll have to ask our (retired) UPS driver if they have a similar rule.

    I seldom see their big Buster Brown box trucks parked in a parking lot
    or on the street. On the street they (and Fed-Ex) pull as close to the
    curb as they can, turn on the 4-ways and take the package to the address.
    Then return and drive straight away.

    8<----- SLICE ----->8


    We tried a new sushi place yesterday for Father's Day--got some spicy fried chicken "nuggets" on greens, a California roll with scallops and
    a shrimp tempura roll. All good, but not quite as good as Taste of
    Japan up in West Henrietta, NY. Nancy introduced us to that place; we
    try to stop in every so often when we're in the area.

    I've tried to like sushi as a dish several times. It will never be one
    of my favourites, apparently. I like amlost mall of the things that go into it - from the rice which gives it its name, to the various veg
    and meats, etc wrapped up in the sushi rice. Individually. Even the sashimi (raw fish) at least some of it. Just not as a "dish" or
    entree.

    My favourite Japanese thing, overall, it tempure.

    It took a trip to ToJ for Steve to develop a liking of it. I'd had a
    bit here and there over the years, enough to know I like it, but never
    a whole meal of it.

    This is one of my favourite Japanese entrees. I discovered it at Osaka Restaurant on my city's west side. Came home asnd whistled up the recipe. Haven't made it on my own yet - but it doesn't look too tough. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Chicken & Lettuce Yakisoba
    Categories: Poultry, Greens, Pasta, Sauces
    Yield: 2 servings

    1 sm Head iceberg lettuce
    1 cl Garlic
    4 Boned/skinned chicken thighs
    1 ts Oil
    8 oz Yakisoba noodles
    1/4 c Water
    1 tb Soy sauce
    1 tb Sake or white grape juice,
    - or apple cider
    1 tb Oyster sauce
    Salt & pepper
    1 ts Sesame oil

    Tear lettuce leaves into 1 1/2" to 2" pieces. Mince
    garlic. Cut chicken into bite size pieces.

    In a wok or a large frying-pan, heat oil at medium high
    heat. Add garlic and chicken and stir-fry until the
    chicken is browned. Add the noodles and water in the
    pan, cover, and cook for 30 seconds. Loosen the noodles
    and stir. Season with soy sauce, sake, and oyster sauce.

    Add the lettuce and cook until the lettuce is soften.
    Add salt and pepper to taste. Add the sesame oil and
    remove from the heat.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.japanesecooking101.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jun 21 06:27:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Were I doing something like that I'd use a "steam-in-bag" veg from the freezer. California medley or stir-fry would be nice. Or chopped
    broccoli/ caulifloer.

    I had some fresh broccoli on hand so cut some up and steamed it in the microwave. I'm buying more fresh veggies now than I did years ago, used
    to buy a lot of frozen. Having a Wegman's nearby and access to a local farmer's market has made a big difference.

    I'm capable of that. But I'm getting lazy in my old age. That will have
    to change when I get the raised bed gardens (three 4 X 2 X 2) sections
    with asparagus between 1 & 2 and rhubarb between 3 & 4.

    I was at GFS picking up soup bases and a 3# packag

    8<----- SHORTEN ----->8

    I'm not big on taco salad at home. And there are usually much better
    picks at the Mexican places I visit. One thing I do like is called a "chalupa" . made my local fake Mex chain, Taco Gringo. It's like a
    taco salad laid flat on a 10" flour tortilla, spread with taco mean, refried beans, diced toatoes, cheese, shredded lettuce, pickled
    jalapenos (opt) and guacamole/salsa. It cmes as a Chalupa or as a Jr.

    Sounds like something I'd try. We've got Taco Bell plus several Mexican restaurants in/around WF. One of the latter, that had been around since before we moved here, closed last year, don't know why but it was one
    of our favorites.

    Taco Sloppo (Bell) used to do a chalupa - but it was nowhere near as
    good as Taco Gringo's. They also used to do an enchilada-ish thing
    called the "enchirito" which was very good. It is no more as their min-
    wage children had trouble making it properly.

    Chalups. One of the Juniors is a filling meal for one. One evening
    I was feeling DD> "sporty" and ordered the full Chalupa - only to
    to discover that it was exactly the same as the Junior version.
    For U$3 more.

    Now you know. (G)

    Save the three bucks for something else.

    This is a sorta/kinda copycat of that dish ...

    Title: Loaded Beef Chalupas
    Categories: Beef, Breads, Vegetables, Greens, Chilies
    Yield: 4 servings

    Looks good--and very filling.

    And this was last night's supper for both me and Denns. W/leftovers. I
    got a deal on a 1 1/2 lb pork tenderloin at Humphrey's and had them
    slice it 1/2" thick. When I got hoe I put the 1/2" chops onto a plate
    and popped it into the free4zer until it was beginning to freeze. Then
    cut the chops into 1/2" (ish) cubes without the meat squairming away
    from the knife. Bv)=

    The rest was easy and I used my casserole CrockPot (as noted) rather
    than fire up the oven on a 97 degree day. Leftovers (this time) were
    bundled into meal-sized servings and sucky-bagged to freeze. First time
    I made it there were four for dinner .... and even though the quantity
    given by the recipe writer is 6 servings we licked the bowl clean. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Pork & Green Chile Casserole
    Categories: Pork, Vegetables, Chilies, Herbs, Cheese
    Yield: 6 servings

    1 1/2 lb Boneless pork; in 1/2" dice
    1 tb Oil
    15 oz Can black beans; rinsed,
    - drained
    10 3/4 oz Can cream of chicken soup;
    - undiluted
    14 1/2 oz Diced tomatoes; undrained
    8 oz (2 cans) chopped green
    - chilies
    1 c Quick-cooking brown rice
    1/4 c Water
    2 tb (to 3 tb) salsa
    1 ts Ground cumin
    1/2 c Shredded Cheddar cheese
    Sliced, pickled jalapenos;
    - opt

    Set oven @ 350ºF/175ºC.

    In a large skillet, brown pork in oil; drain. Stir in
    the beans, soup, tomatoes, chilies, rice, water, salsa
    and cumin.

    Pour into an ungreased 2 quart baking dish. Bake,
    uncovered, until bubbly, about 30 minutes. Sprinkle with
    cheese; let stand 5 minutes before serving. If desired,
    serve with jalapeno slices.

    UDD NOTES: This worked very well in my casserole Crock
    Pot. I did NOT rinse the beans. And I used a can of
    Red Gold Petite Diced Chilies w/green chilies. There
    were no leftovers

    Dianne Esposite, New Middletown, Ohio

    Makes: 6 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Dave Drum on Fri Jun 21 15:57:13 2024
    Re: Tex-Mex was: Traffic
    By: Dave Drum to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jun 19 2024 07:29 am


    On doing things simple, that's me! Simple stir frys rule!

    Here's a recent one. It's a spaghetti based garlic parmesan with slices of Kielbasa and a stir fry.
    https://postimg.cc/YLKb1634

    I use the jar for the sauce most often enough just for speed. I chop various veggies for the stir fry in 5-7 minute spates starting about 2pm.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Xxcarol's Breakfast Frittata (cast iron cookery)
    Categories: Xxcarol, Cast iron, Breakfast
    Yield: 8 Servings

    1/4 lb Bulk Italian sausage/chorizo
    6 ea Large eggs
    1 c Heavy cream
    2 ea Handfuls baby spinach*
    8 oz Feta, crumbled
    1 ea Large ripe tomato
    Salt, black and red pepper

    This is a sample of cooking with cast iron. With so many things
    built to not last, so you have to buy again, this isn't one of them.
    These are often passed down for generations. Like all, be sure your
    pan is well seasoned.

    Starting on the stove top, cook sausage over medium heat, stirring
    often to break it up. Drain sausage on paper towels and pour off
    excess (if you used Mexican Chorizo there will be too much). Wipe
    some up the sides of the pan.

    Put eggs, cream, salt and red and black pepper in a bowl then whisk to
    foamy. Add rest of the ingredients and mix.

    Pour into cast irom and put in oven at 375F for 25-35 minutes and it's
    ready when the toppulled up away from the sides and is golden brown.

    *Baby spinach isn't the only vegetable you can use. I've done cut up
    mustard leaves, cut up Bok Choy etc.

    From the VB kitchen of: xxcarol on 21Jun2024

    **Like many cast iron recipes, it leaves you with minimal clean up.

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Jun 22 06:41:10 2024
    Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Dave Drum <=-


    On doing things simple, that's me! Simple stir frys rule!

    Here's a recent one. It's a spaghetti based garlic parmesan with
    slices of Kielbasa and a stir fry.
    https://postimg.cc/YLKb1634

    I use the jar for the sauce most often enough just for speed. I chop various veggies for the stir fry in 5-7 minute spates starting about
    2pm.

    I have available to me a line of jarred sauces (Onofiro's) which require
    little or no "tarting up" to be as good as I can make on a good day. The
    guy behind the sauces (Joe Janazzo) is a local pub owner and friend, also
    the nephew of the originator of the recipes used, Onofrio "Mimi" Vitale.
    Their Basilico is a favourite.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Xxcarol's Breakfast Frittata (cast iron cookery)
    Categories: Xxcarol, Cast iron, Breakfast
    Yield: 8 Servings

    1/4 lb Bulk Italian sausage/chorizo
    6 ea Large eggs
    1 c Heavy cream
    2 ea Handfuls baby spinach*
    8 oz Feta, crumbled
    1 ea Large ripe tomato
    Salt, black and red pepper

    This is a sample of cooking with cast iron. With so many things
    built to not last, so you have to buy again, this isn't one of them.
    These are often passed down for generations. Like all, be sure your
    pan is well seasoned.

    Here's a course on how to treat your cast iron .....

    I do NOT follow the first part of the re-seasoning onstructions. I put
    the item in a black plastic trash bag and add a quart of household
    ammonia then close and seal the bag. Put it outdoors on the patio/picnic
    table in the hot sun for a day (or more). When you open the bag all of
    the nastiness on the iron will have turned t a brown sludge wheich can'
    be rinsed away with the garden hose. Then you have a vessel in pristie condition ready to be seasoned.

    As we know a properly seasoned cast iron pot or pan is as non-stick as
    the johnny-come-lately teflon stuff.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Seasoning Cast Iron Cookware; w/Cautionary Notes
    Categories: Info
    Yield: 1 Text

    Salt
    Oil

    When I got a new cast iron dutch oven a few years ago I
    didn't know you had to season it. I just washed it, dried
    it and filled it with chilli to take on a camping trip for
    supper the first night. Everyone was waiting with
    anticipation for this big pot of chili to heat up over the
    fire. Well when I tasted it, it tasted like machine oil
    smells and had to dump the whole mess. Found out later
    that cast iron is coated with a machine type oil for
    shipping. Some kind soul in this echo told me how to fix
    it and I have been happy with my dutch oven ever since.

    CLEANING AND RESEASONING CAST-IRON SKILLET
    You're browsing the junk store or rummaging the neighbor's
    garage sale and there it is - a good, old cast-iron
    skillet, black and righteous from decades of use and
    priced to sell. Once you get your treasure home and before
    you crank up the heat, you'll need to clean and reseason
    it.

    Here's how:

    1. Assemble a 1-pound box of salt and a quart of vegetable
    oil.

    2. Wash the cast iron with warm water and mild dish soap
    inside and out. Rinse well, Dry.

    3. Heat skillet over high heat, and when it's smoking hot,
    cover bottom with a thick layer of salt. (This can get
    smelly, so you'll want to turn on the fan.) Using an old
    wooden spoon you don't mind scorching, and protecting both
    hands with hot pads, scrape salt around the bottom and
    sides of the pan. Keep the heat on high and keep scraping
    salt until the salt starts to brown and you notice black
    flecks in it. Scour the skillet for a good five minutes.
    Turn off the heat, and as soon as the salt has cooled down
    enough to dispose of safely, discard it, and, being
    careful not to burn yourself, wipe out the skillet with a
    paper towel.

    4. Repeat salt-cleaning method if skillet still looks
    cruddy.

    Otherwise:

    [SEE SAFETY NOTES BEFORE PROCEEDING WITH STEP 5]

    5. Return skillet to burner and heat it until it's
    red-hot. Turn off heat and fill skillet one-third with
    vegetable oil. either tilt skillet, or use a non-plastic
    brush, to coat sides with oil. Allow oil-filled skillet to
    cool completely - at least an hour.

    6. Heat skillet and oil again, to about frying temperature
    (350-400ºF/175-205ºC). Turn off heat and again allow to
    cool completely. Overnight is best.

    7. The next morning, discard oil, wipe skillet out with a
    paper towel and you're ready to go.

    8. Some folks swear soap and hot water never touch their
    cast iron. Others find an occasional mild sudsing
    desirable. Everybody agrees, however, that scouring pads
    or powders and dishwashers will ruin the seasoning. Use a
    plastic scrubber, if necessary, to dislodge stuck-on
    stuff.

    9. For new cast iron, start with step 2 and then go to
    step 5. Lots of manufacturers suggest heating the skillet
    and oil in the oven a couple of times to season it.

    From: Sharon Dibble

    SAFETY NOTES by Greg Mayman

    *1* do step 5 out-of-doors - if the pan cracks & breaks,
    you don't want bits of red-hot metal falling about in the
    kitchen.

    *2* Before adding the oil, allow the pan to cool and test
    with a single drop of oil; when the pan is cool enough so
    the drop does not burn or vaporise, add the oil VERY
    SLOWLY to avoid cracking the cast iron.

    FROM: Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Jun 21 12:15:44 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Not sure what we have but the truck and camper are both paid off. Took
    out a loan for the truck but paid it off earlier this year.

    I once bought a car at one of those "Buy Here Pay Here" thieves. They wouldn't sell it for ca$h since the usurious interest is how they make their money. I did the math and found with the price of the vehicle
    and the payments it would add up to a bit over 2X tha ca$h price.
    Since my
    state has a law that prohibits penalties for early pay-off there was
    not one thing they could do when my first instalment was for the
    entire
    price of the car plus one period's interest. Just give me the title
    and grumble to themselves.

    We've never bought from those places, going with Car Maxx once and
    dealerships other times. My parents financed the loan on the car they
    sold us the only time we've done a private sale.



    I've met that "Lake effect" sone in a number of locations - Chicago
    area, Detroit/Toledo region, and around the "Mistake on the Lake", Cleveland.

    Makes me glad we don't live up there. We might get a dusting of snow or ice once or twice during the winter but most often it's gone the next
    day. Not like the year we got 18" on the coast--Steve had to hike out
    to the local supermarket for some supplies but we didn't lose power
    during it.

    Sounds like my area last year. What climate change? I hope Wake Forest
    is at enough elevation that it doesn't suffer the rising seas that are plaguing New Bern, Beaufort and Jacksonville.

    We have a few rivers that can get pretty high but no major flooding like
    the coastal areas get. We're about 150 miles inland so don't have to
    worry (yet) about rising sea levels.


    AutoZone reuires their delivery drivers to back-in when parking since
    it is safer when pulling out. The only exceptions allowed are if one
    can pull straight ahead from the parkig spot (no obstacles like a
    parking block or other impediment).

    Smart, I'll have to ask our (retired) UPS driver if they have a similar rule.

    I seldom see their big Buster Brown box trucks parked in a parking lot
    or on the street. On the street they (and Fed-Ex) pull as close to the curb as they can, turn on the 4-ways and take the package to the
    address. Then return and drive straight away.

    And one of the local drivers stops to give the dog across the street
    from us a treat.

    8<----- SLICE ----->8


    We tried a new sushi place yesterday for Father's Day--got some spicy fried chicken "nuggets" on greens, a California roll with scallops and
    a shrimp tempura roll. All good, but not quite as good as Taste of
    Japan up in West Henrietta, NY. Nancy introduced us to that place; we
    try to stop in every so often when we're in the area.

    I've tried to like sushi as a dish several times. It will never be one
    of my favourites, apparently. I like amlost mall of the things that go into it - from the rice which gives it its name, to the various veg
    and meats, etc wrapped up in the sushi rice. Individually. Even the sashimi (raw fish) at least some of it. Just not as a "dish" or
    entree.

    My favourite Japanese thing, overall, it tempure.

    It took a trip to ToJ for Steve to develop a liking of it. I'd had a
    bit here and there over the years, enough to know I like it, but never
    a whole meal of it.

    This is one of my favourite Japanese entrees. I discovered it at Osaka Restaurant on my city's west side. Came home asnd whistled up the
    recipe. Haven't made it on my own yet - but it doesn't look too tough.
    Bv)=

    Looks good, aand not that hard to make.


    Title: Chicken & Lettuce Yakisoba
    Categories: Poultry, Greens, Pasta, Sauces
    Yield: 2 servings


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    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Jun 21 12:23:10 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Were I doing something like that I'd use a "steam-in-bag" veg from the freezer. California medley or stir-fry would be nice. Or chopped
    broccoli/ caulifloer.

    I had some fresh broccoli on hand so cut some up and steamed it in the microwave. I'm buying more fresh veggies now than I did years ago, used
    to buy a lot of frozen. Having a Wegman's nearby and access to a local farmer's market has made a big difference.

    I'm capable of that. But I'm getting lazy in my old age. That will
    have to change when I get the raised bed gardens (three 4 X 2 X 2) sections
    with asparagus between 1 & 2 and rhubarb between 3 & 4.

    We have a small raised bed, mostly herbs but Steve put in some snow peas
    and Swiss chard this year. Peas have produced a few at a time, just
    enough to rinse off and have as a side to the meal now and again.

    I was at GFS picking up soup bases and a 3# packag

    8<----- SHORTEN ----->8

    Taco Sloppo (Bell) used to do a chalupa - but it was nowhere near as
    good as Taco Gringo's. They also used to do an enchilada-ish thing
    called the "enchirito" which was very good. It is no more as their
    min- wage children had trouble making it properly.

    Our younger daughter worked at a Taco Bell while in high school. Didn't
    get rich but it helped her finance high school expenses like yearbook,
    extra pocket money for field trips and so on.

    Chalups. One of the Juniors is a filling meal for one. One evening
    I was feeling DD> "sporty" and ordered the full Chalupa - only to
    to discover that it was exactly the same as the Junior version.
    For U$3 more.

    Now you know. (G)

    Save the three bucks for something else.

    This is a sorta/kinda copycat of that dish ...

    Title: Loaded Beef Chalupas
    Categories: Beef, Breads, Vegetables, Greens, Chilies
    Yield: 4 servings

    Looks good--and very filling.

    And this was last night's supper for both me and Denns. W/leftovers. I
    got a deal on a 1 1/2 lb pork tenderloin at Humphrey's and had them
    slice it 1/2" thick. When I got hoe I put the 1/2" chops onto a plate
    and popped it into the free4zer until it was beginning to freeze. Then
    cut the chops into 1/2" (ish) cubes without the meat squairming away
    from the knife. Bv)=

    The rest was easy and I used my casserole CrockPot (as noted) rather
    than fire up the oven on a 97 degree day. Leftovers (this time) were bundled into meal-sized servings and sucky-bagged to freeze. First
    time I made it there were four for dinner .... and even though the quantity
    given by the recipe writer is 6 servings we licked the bowl clean.
    Bv)=


    Title: Pork & Green Chile Casserole
    Categories: Pork, Vegetables, Chilies, Herbs, Cheese
    Yield: 6 servings

    1 1/2 lb Boneless pork; in 1/2" dice
    1 tb Oil
    15 oz Can black beans; rinsed,
    - drained
    10 3/4 oz Can cream of chicken soup;
    - undiluted
    14 1/2 oz Diced tomatoes; undrained
    8 oz (2 cans) chopped green
    - chilies
    1 c Quick-cooking brown rice
    1/4 c Water
    2 tb (to 3 tb) salsa
    1 ts Ground cumin
    1/2 c Shredded Cheddar cheese
    Sliced, pickled jalapenos;
    - opt

    That does look good.


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    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Jun 23 05:21:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I once bought a car at one of those "Buy Here Pay Here" thieves. They wouldn't sell it for ca$h since the usurious interest is how they make their money. I did the math and found with the price of the vehicle
    and the payments it would add up to a bit over 2X tha ca$h price.
    Since my state has a law that prohibits penalties for early pay-off
    there was not one thing they could do when my first instalment was
    for the entire price of the car plus one period's interest. Just
    give me the title and grumble to themselves.

    We've never bought from those places, going with Car Maxx once and dealerships other times. My parents financed the loan on the car they
    sold us the only time we've done a private sale.

    I only bought from then because it was a vehicle I wanted, in good shape
    and priced right - if I didn't have to pay the usurious interest. First
    thing I did after getting the title was locate and remove the Lo-Jack
    device. Just in case. Bv)=

    I've met that "Lake effect" sone in a number of locations - Chicago
    area, Detroit/Toledo region, and around the "Mistake on the Lake", Cleveland.

    Makes me glad we don't live up there. We might get a dusting of snow or ice once or twice during the winter but most often it's gone the next
    day. Not like the year we got 18" on the coast--Steve had to hike out
    to the local supermarket for some supplies but we didn't lose power
    during it.

    Sounds like my area last year. What climate change? I hope Wake Forest
    is at enough elevation that it doesn't suffer the rising seas that are plaguing New Bern, Beaufort and Jacksonville.

    We have a few rivers that can get pretty high but no major flooding
    like the coastal areas get. We're about 150 miles inland so don't have
    to worry (yet) about rising sea levels.

    Be gld you don't live in Nawlins or Sanibel Island, FL.

    AutoZone reuires their delivery drivers to back-in when parking since
    it is safer when pulling out. The only exceptions allowed are if one
    can pull straight ahead from the parkig spot (no obstacles like a
    parking block or other impediment).

    Smart, I'll have to ask our (retired) UPS driver if they have a similar rule.

    I seldom see their big Buster Brown box trucks parked in a parking lot
    or on the street. On the street they (and Fed-Ex) pull as close to the curb as they can, turn on the 4-ways and take the package to the
    address. Then return and drive straight away.

    And one of the local drivers stops to give the dog across the street
    from us a treat.

    Keep the pooches friendly and you won't get bit. Bv)=

    8<----- SLICE ----->8

    We tried a new sushi place yesterday for Father's Day--got some spicy fried chicken "nuggets" on greens, a California roll with scallops and
    a shrimp tempura roll. All good, but not quite as good as Taste of
    Japan up in West Henrietta, NY. Nancy introduced us to that place; we
    try to stop in every so often when we're in the area.

    I've tried to like sushi as a dish several times. It will never be one
    of my favourites, apparently. I like amlost mall of the things that go into it - from the rice which gives it its name, to the various veg
    and meats, etc wrapped up in the sushi rice. Individually. Even the sashimi (raw fish) at least some of it. Just not as a "dish" or
    entree.

    My favourite Japanese thing, overall, it tempure.

    It took a trip to ToJ for Steve to develop a liking of it. I'd had a
    bit here and there over the years, enough to know I like it, but never
    a whole meal of it.

    This is one of my favourite Japanese entrees. I discovered it at Osaka Restaurant on my city's west side. Came home asnd whistled up the
    recipe. Haven't made it on my own yet - but it doesn't look too tough.
    Bv)=

    Looks good, aand not that hard to make.

    Title: Chicken & Lettuce Yakisoba
    Categories: Poultry, Greens, Pasta, Sauces
    Yield: 2 servings

    It's really easy. More prep work than anything.

    Hee's another Japanese thing I have eaten out but not made on my own.
    Once again, the prep is lengthy but the results seem to be worth it.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Honetsukidori (Grilled Seasoned Chicken Maryland)
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs
    Yield: 2 servings

    2 Chicken Marylands (leg
    - quarters)
    4 tb Chicken oil (schmaltz)
    2 ts Garlic grated
    1 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Dashi powder
    1 ts Ground white pepper
    1 ts Soy sauce

    MMMMM------------------------CHICKEN OIL-----------------------------
    300 g (3/4 lb) chicken skin in
    - bite-size pieces
    1 cl Garlic
    12 g Knob ginger

    MMMMM--------------------------TO SERVE-------------------------------
    Cabbage leaves cut in large
    - bite size pieces

    Place the chicken Maryland on a cutting board facing the inside of the
    leg up. Using a sharp knife, make incisions along the bone.

    From the opening made by the incisions, insert the tip of your knife
    between the bone and the flesh, then slide the tip of your knife along
    the bone so that the flesh detaches from the bone leaving the bottom
    part of the bones intact with the flesh. Detach the flesh in the same
    way on both sides of the bones all the way (see the video). Repeat for
    the other chicken maryland.

    Use a fork to poke holes on both sides of the chicken maryland.

    MARINATE CHICKEN: Mix the salt and the dashi powder well.

    Place the butterflied chicken maryland pieces on the cutting board and
    rub half of the grated garlic all over the surface of the chicken.
    Turn the chicken over and do the same with the rest of the garlic.
    Rub half of the salt with dashi powder all over the chicken, then do
    the same on the other side of the chicken.

    Sprinkle half of the pepper over the chicken and rub the surface. Do
    the same on the other side of the chicken with the remaining pepper.
    If using soy sauce, sprinkle the soy sauce over the chicken flesh,
    and rub the soy sauce into the flesh.

    Place the chicken pieces on a tray, cover the tray with cling wrap,
    and place it in the fridge for minimum 6 hours, preferably 1 day.

    MAKE CHICKEN OIL: Using the side of the knife, smash the garlic and
    the ginger.

    Heat a wok (or a deep-frying pan) over medium heat. Put the chicken
    skin pieces into the wok and spread them as much as possible to
    minimise the overlap.

    Cook for about 15 minutes, stirring the skins from time to time. As
    the oil comes out of the skins, the skin shrinks a lot and the colour
    changes to brown (note 4).

    Add the garlic and the ginger to the wok and cook for further 5
    minutes. Turn the heat off and collect the chicken oil through a
    sieve.

    COOK AND SERVE HONETSUKIDORI: Heat the oven griller/broiler to high.
    If you have 2 small trays, cook a chicken on each tray. If not, use
    one larger tray.

    Spread 2 tablespoons of Chicken Oil on each tray (total 4 tablespoons
    for 2 chickens). If using one tray, spread 2 tablespoons of Chicken
    Oil on right half area of the tray, another 2 tablespoons of the oil
    on the left half area. Place each chicken on the oil, skin side down.

    Place the trays under the grill/broiler, about 10cm/4" below the heat.
    Cook for about 10 minutes until the surface of the chicken starts
    browning.

    Turn the chicken over and cook on the skin side for about 10 minutes.
    The surface of the skin should start browning and become crunchy.
    Remove the trays from the oven grill.

    Transfer the chicken to a serving plate, skin-side down. Pour the oil
    accumulated in the tray over the chicken. Pile the cabbage pieces on
    the side. Serve while hot, with a pair of scissors and a small piece
    of baking paper (or aluminium foil) to hold the leg.

    HOW TO EAT HONETSUKIDORI: Wrap the end of the leg with the paper/foil
    and hold it with your left fingers (for the right hander). Using the
    scissors, cut the meat on both sides of the bones, perpendicular to
    the bone, with about 2.5cm/1" interval. Then, cut the meat along the
    bones. As you cut, a bite-size chicken piece comes off the bone.

    Dip the piece of chicken in the oil on the plate and eat it. You can
    also dip a piece of cabbage in the oil to eat. At the end, grab the
    chicken bone and bite the meat off it. This is the best part.

    Yumiko Maehashi

    Makes: 2 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://japan.recipetineats.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Jun 23 05:56:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Were I doing something like that I'd use a "steam-in-bag" veg from the freezer. California medley or stir-fry would be nice. Or chopped
    broccoli/ caulifloer.

    I had some fresh broccoli on hand so cut some up and steamed it in the microwave. I'm buying more fresh veggies now than I did years ago, used
    to buy a lot of frozen. Having a Wegman's nearby and access to a local farmer's market has made a big difference.

    I'm capable of that. But I'm getting lazy in my old age. That will
    have to change when I get the raised bed gardens (three 4 X 2 X 2) sections with asparagus between 1 & 2 and rhubarb between 3 & 4.

    We have a small raised bed, mostly herbs but Steve put in some snow
    peas and Swiss chard this year. Peas have produced a few at a time,
    just enough to rinse off and have as a side to the meal now and again.

    The main reason I'm doing the raised bed is because it's hard from me
    to "get down and get dirty". That two feet of height makes it so much
    more practical for an old phart like me. Plus I don't really have a
    back yard and not much os a side yard for a garden plot. I'm glad that
    the evergreens across the front of the house are just a mamory. Trimming
    tham every year was a genuine PITA.

    8<----- SHORTEN ----->8

    Taco Sloppo (Bell) used to do a chalupa - but it was nowhere near as
    good as Taco Gringo's. They also used to do an enchilada-ish thing
    called the "enchirito" which was very good. It is no more as their
    min- wage children had trouble making it properly.

    Our younger daughter worked at a Taco Bell while in high school. Didn't get rich but it helped her finance high school expenses like yearbook, extra pocket money for field trips and so on.

    The Taco Bells here are offering U$15/hour to start which lets them do
    more pick & choose. But it also raised their prices to where on can go
    to a sit-down (real) Mexican restaurant and have table service and a
    much mre varied manu.

    I've noticed that every sit-down Mexican plac I have visited, here, ot
    there, or anywhere has a lunch specail called the "Speedy Gonzales". If
    you remember Speedy Gonzales was a cartoon mouse claimed to be "The
    Fastest Mose In All Mexico". Bv)= I've never ordered that one.

    Chalups. One of the Juniors is a filling meal for one. One evening
    I was feeling DD> "sporty" and ordered the full Chalupa - only to
    to discover that it was exactly the same as the Junior version.
    For U$3 more.

    Now you know. (G)

    Save the three bucks for something else.

    This is a sorta/kinda copycat of that dish ...

    Title: Loaded Beef Chalupas
    Categories: Beef, Breads, Vegetables, Greens, Chilies
    Yield: 4 servings

    Looks good--and very filling.

    And this was last night's supper for both me and Dennis. W/leftovers. I got a deal on a 1 1/2 lb pork tenderloin at Humphrey's and had them
    slice it 1/2" thick. When I got hoe I put the 1/2" chops onto a plate
    and popped it into the free4zer until it was beginning to freeze. Then
    cut the chops into 1/2" (ish) cubes without the meat squairming away
    from the knife. Bv)=

    The rest was easy and I used my casserole CrockPot (as noted) rather
    than fire up the oven on a 97 degree day. Leftovers (this time) were bundled into meal-sized servings and sucky-bagged to freeze. First
    time I made it there were four for dinner .... and even though the quantity
    given by the recipe writer is 6 servings we licked the bowl clean.
    Bv)=


    Title: Pork & Green Chile Casserole
    Categories: Pork, Vegetables, Chilies, Herbs, Cheese
    Yield: 6 servings

    That does look good.

    'Twas/is.

    This is (and never will be) a part of a restaurant's Speedy Gonzales
    special. But it does look good. I've put it on my round-tuit list for
    feeding a family gathering.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Speedy Gonzales Spaghetti
    Categories: Beef, Vegetbles, Pasta, Cheese, Chilies
    Yield: 8 servings

    4 tb A-P flour
    1 1/2 lb Lean ground beef
    1 md Onion; fine chopped
    3 cl Garlic; minced
    1 lg Egg; scrambled by fork in a
    - dish
    45 oz (3 cans) tomato sauce
    5 1/2 c Water
    Salt & pepper
    5 tb Chilli spice mix
    2 lb Spaghetti or linguine
    1 lb Sharp Cheddar cheese;
    - shredded

    Put flour in a small dish and set aside. Place ground
    beef in a large bowl and add chopped onion, garlic and
    egg. Knead ingredients into meat with your hands, taking
    care to mix them well throughout the ground beef. Set
    aside.

    In a large pot, add tomato sauce, water, salt, pepper
    and 2 tablespoons of chilli spice. Heat and bring to a
    low simmer.

    With your hands, form medium-size meatballs with the
    ground beef. Drop into dish of flour and turn meatballs
    to coat lightly with the flour. Gently drop meatballs,
    one at a time, into the simmering sauce. Stir in the
    remaining 2 tablespoons of chilli spice.

    Continue to simmer sauce and meatballs uncovered for 25
    to 30 minutes. Sauce should be bubbling gently while
    meatballs cook. If preferred, more chilli spice may be
    added to taste.

    Meanwhile, cook pasta according to instructions on
    package. Drain and return to large pot. When spaghetti
    is cooked, use a pasta spoon to immediately place 1 to 2
    cups of hot noodles into deep bowls. Drop 3 to 4
    meatballs into bowls on top of spaghetti pasta.

    Place at least 1/2 cup of shredded cheddar on top of
    meatballs and pasta in each bowl. Ladle about 3/4 to 1
    cup of sauce over the cheese, meatballs and pasta.
    Cheese will melt from the sauce's heat. If desired, add
    another big pinch of cheddar to the top of each dish and
    serve immediately with hot, crusty garlic bread.

    To store leftovers, combine pasta, sauce and meatballs
    together in one container. Store shredded cheese
    separately. Re-heat the spaghetti, meatballs and sauce
    in a pot, and sprinkle lots of shredded cheese over each
    hot serving.

    By: Cindy DeVore

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.justapinch.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Jun 23 16:54:25 2024
    Hi Dave,


    I once bought a car at one of those "Buy Here Pay Here" thieves. They

    We've never bought from those places, going with Car Maxx once and dealerships other times. My parents financed the loan on the car they
    sold us the only time we've done a private sale.

    I only bought from then because it was a vehicle I wanted, in good
    shape and priced right - if I didn't have to pay the usurious

    Sounds good. We'd started sort of looking for a replacement truck in
    2022, knowing the Frontier was aging (2010 model) but not seriously
    looking. Bought a new camper in late Februaary, 2023 and needed more
    towing horsepower so got serious about looking for a replacement.
    Stopped at a used car lot on our way home from Raleigh one afternoon and
    saw a "well, maybe but let's keep looking". A bit up the road was the
    Ford dealership so we pulled into there. They had a 2018 F-150 sitting
    out, by itself, so we started looking. Ended up taking a test drive,
    then buying it.


    I've met that "Lake effect" sone in a number of locations - Chicago
    area, Detroit/Toledo region, and around the "Mistake on the Lake", Cleveland.

    Makes me glad we don't live up there. We might get a dusting of snow or ice once or twice during the winter but most often it's gone the next
    day. Not like the year we got 18" on the coast--Steve had to hike out
    to the local supermarket for some supplies but we didn't lose power
    during it.

    Sounds like my area last year. What climate change? I hope Wake Forest
    is at enough elevation that it doesn't suffer the rising seas that are plaguing New Bern, Beaufort and Jacksonville.

    We have a few rivers that can get pretty high but no major flooding
    like the coastal areas get. We're about 150 miles inland so don't have
    to worry (yet) about rising sea levels.

    Be gld you don't live in Nawlins or Sanibel Island, FL.

    We are. (G) Used to live on the coast (Swansboro,NC). Had a few near
    misses with storms, area was hit bad several times after we moved.
    Missed them in Savannah too.

    curb as they can, turn on the 4-ways and take the package to the
    address. Then return and drive straight away.

    And one of the local drivers stops to give the dog across the street
    from us a treat.

    Keep the pooches friendly and you won't get bit. Bv)=

    This is a young (3 years old) cocker spaniel that is very outgoing. He
    knows the sound of our voices and the UPS truck, knows it usually means
    he gets a treat.

    8<----- SLICE ----->8

    We tried a new sushi place yesterday for Father's Day--got some spicy fried chicken "nuggets" on greens, a California roll with scallops and
    a shrimp tempura roll. All good, but not quite as good as Taste of
    Japan up in West Henrietta, NY. Nancy introduced us to that place; we
    try to stop in every so often when we're in the area.

    I've tried to like sushi as a dish several times. It will never be one
    of my favourites, apparently. I like amlost mall of the things that go into it - from the rice which gives it its name, to the various veg
    and meats, etc wrapped up in the sushi rice. Individually. Even the sashimi (raw fish) at least some of it. Just not as a "dish" or
    entree.

    My favourite Japanese thing, overall, it tempure.

    It took a trip to ToJ for Steve to develop a liking of it. I'd had a
    bit here and there over the years, enough to know I like it, but never
    a whole meal of it.

    This is one of my favourite Japanese entrees. I discovered it at Osaka Restaurant on my city's west side. Came home asnd whistled up the
    recipe. Haven't made it on my own yet - but it doesn't look too tough.
    Bv)=

    Looks good, aand not that hard to make.

    Title: Chicken & Lettuce Yakisoba
    Categories: Poultry, Greens, Pasta, Sauces
    Yield: 2 servings

    It's really easy. More prep work than anything.

    Hee's another Japanese thing I have eaten out but not made on my own.
    Once again, the prep is lengthy but the results seem to be worth it.

    Never tried it or seen it on the menu. Our favorite way to do leg
    quarters is to marinade them in an adaptation of the Cornell sauce, then
    grill.


    Title: Honetsukidori (Grilled Seasoned Chicken Maryland)
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs
    Yield: 2 servings

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    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Jun 23 17:06:52 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Were I doing something like that I'd use a "steam-in-bag" veg from the freezer. California medley or stir-fry would be nice. Or chopped
    broccoli/ caulifloer.

    I had some fresh broccoli on hand so cut some up and steamed it in the

    I'm capable of that. But I'm getting lazy in my old age. That will
    have to change when I get the raised bed gardens (three 4 X 2 X 2) sections with asparagus between 1 & 2 and rhubarb between 3 & 4.

    We have a small raised bed, mostly herbs but Steve put in some snow
    peas and Swiss chard this year. Peas have produced a few at a time,
    just enough to rinse off and have as a side to the meal now and again.

    The main reason I'm doing the raised bed is because it's hard from me
    to "get down and get dirty". That two feet of height makes it so much
    more practical for an old phart like me. Plus I don't really have a
    back yard and not much os a side yard for a garden plot. I'm glad that
    the evergreens across the front of the house are just a mamory.
    Trimming tham every year was a genuine PITA.

    Ours is in the back yard, only place suitable. Previous owners of the
    house had a small raised area going across the fence; we just improved
    on part of that and made it into a semi raised bed.

    8<----- SHORTEN ----->8

    Taco Sloppo (Bell) used to do a chalupa - but it was nowhere near as
    good as Taco Gringo's. They also used to do an enchilada-ish thing
    called the "enchirito" which was very good. It is no more as their
    min- wage children had trouble making it properly.

    Our younger daughter worked at a Taco Bell while in high school. Didn't get rich but it helped her finance high school expenses like yearbook, extra pocket money for field trips and so on.

    The Taco Bells here are offering U$15/hour to start which lets them do more pick & choose. But it also raised their prices to where on can go
    to a sit-down (real) Mexican restaurant and have table service and a
    much mre varied manu.

    It's still good for those that want the pseudo Tex-Mex they grew up with
    or fast sorta Mexican food.


    I've noticed that every sit-down Mexican plac I have visited, here, ot there, or anywhere has a lunch specail called the "Speedy Gonzales".
    If you remember Speedy Gonzales was a cartoon mouse claimed to be "The Fastest Mose In All Mexico". Bv)= I've never ordered that one.

    "Ariba, ariba, andelle" He's not on the menu of the better sit down
    Mexican places around here. Haven't been to one of the other places, you
    know, the ones that have a limited selection of tacos, tortillas, etc
    all with rice and salad in a while so can't say if they have a Speedy
    Gonzales there or not.

    And this was last night's supper for both me and Dennis. W/leftovers. I got a deal on a 1 1/2 lb pork tenderloin at Humphrey's and had them
    slice it 1/2" thick. When I got hoe I put the 1/2" chops onto a plate
    and popped it into the free4zer until it was beginning to freeze. Then
    cut the chops into 1/2" (ish) cubes without the meat squairming away
    from the knife. Bv)=

    The rest was easy and I used my casserole CrockPot (as noted) rather
    than fire up the oven on a 97 degree day. Leftovers (this time) were bundled into meal-sized servings and sucky-bagged to freeze. First
    time I made it there were four for dinner .... and even though the quantity
    given by the recipe writer is 6 servings we licked the bowl clean.
    Bv)=


    Title: Pork & Green Chile Casserole
    Categories: Pork, Vegetables, Chilies, Herbs, Cheese
    Yield: 6 servings

    That does look good.

    'Twas/is.

    This is (and never will be) a part of a restaurant's Speedy Gonzales special. But it does look good. I've put it on my round-tuit list for feeding a family gathering.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Speedy Gonzales Spaghetti
    Categories: Beef, Vegetbles, Pasta, Cheese, Chilies
    Yield: 8 servings

    Sort of a mishmosh of Italian and Mexican. (G)


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    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jun 25 06:26:50 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    The Taco Bells here are offering U$15/hour to start which lets them do more pick & choose. But it also raised their prices to where on can go
    to a sit-down (real) Mexican restaurant and have table service and a
    much mre varied manu.

    It's still good for those that want the pseudo Tex-Mex they grew up
    with or fast sorta Mexican food.

    Actually Taco Bell started as Cal-Mex - along with the much better but
    not so wide spread Taco Tico.

    I've noticed that every sit-down Mexican plac I have visited, here, ot there, or anywhere has a lunch specail called the "Speedy Gonzales".
    If you remember Speedy Gonzales was a cartoon mouse claimed to be "The Fastest Mose In All Mexico". Bv)= I've never ordered that one.

    "Ariba, ariba, andelle" He's not on the menu of the better sit down Mexican places around here. Haven't been to one of the other places,
    you know, the ones that have a limited selection of tacos, tortillas,
    etc all with rice and salad in a while so can't say if they have a
    Speedy Gonzales there or not.

    It's listed on the "Lunch Specials", usually in one of the top three slots. Even at the up-market places in this area. What many of them don't have on their menus is pork dishes. And, since pork is my favourite vegetable, I'll tend to "write-off" the places that don't offer it.

    One of my current favourite Mexican luch places, El Dorado, offers a
    perk carnitas burrito with rice and beans, the burrito topped with a
    drizzle of queso blanco sauce and pico di gallo. If I have that for
    lunch, no supper for me. And maybe a nap mid-afternoon. It's a meal
    and a half.

    I gave my instant pot to my sister-in-law so I fake it using my Mom's
    old pressure cooker and the usual kitchn stuff.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Instant Pot Mexican Pulled Pork (Carnitas)
    Categories: Pork, Herbs, Chilies, Fruits
    Yield: 9 servings

    MMMMM-------------------------SPICE RUB------------------------------
    4 tb Chilli spice mix
    2 ts Salt
    1 tb Brown sugar
    2 ts Ground cumin
    1 ts Cayenne
    1 ts Dried oregano
    1 ts Onion powder
    1 ts Garlic powder
    1/4 ts Cinnamon
    pn (scant) ground cloves

    MMMMM------------------------PULLED PORK-----------------------------
    3 1/2 lb Boneless pork shoulder
    - roast; in two pieces
    2 tb Oil
    3/4 c Pineapple juice, orange
    Juice, or water

    Special equipment: 6 qt. electric or stovetop pressure cooker, Fat
    separator

    SEASON THE PORK: In a small bowl, combine the spice rub ingredients.
    Pat the pork dry with paper towels, then sprinkle with half of the
    spice rub. Turn and rub the spice into the pork until the pieces are
    evenly coated.

    LET THE PORK SIT 15 TO 60 MIN: Leave the pork to absorb the rub and to
    take the chill off the meat, at least 15 minutes or up to an hour.
    (Room temperature pork will sear better!)

    SEAR THE PORK: Select the *Saute* program on your pressure cooker and
    add the oil to the pot. (If you are using a stovetop pressure cooker,
    heat the oil over medium heat.)

    Use a pair of tongs to lower the pork into the pot so the side with
    the most fat is facing down. Sear for 5 minutes. Flip it over and
    sear it for 5 more minutes. Both sides should be browned.

    Sprinkle the remaining spice rub over the pork, then pour the
    pineapple juice over the top.

    PRESSURE COOK THE PORK: Place the lid on your pressure cooker. Make
    sure that the pressure regulator is set to the "Sealing" position.
    Select the *Manual* program on the pressure cooker and set the time
    to 1 hour and 15 minutes at high pressure. (For stovetop pressure
    cookers, cook for 60 minutes at high pressure.)

    It will take about 10 minutes for your pressure cooker to come up to
    pressure, and then the cooking time will begin.

    RELEASE THE PRESSURE: After the cooking time ends, let the pot sit and
    naturally release pressure for about 20 minutes, then vent the
    remaining steam. (For stovetop pressure cookers, do a quick pressure
    release.)

    SEPARATE THE PORK AND COOKING LIQUID: Use tongs to transfer the pork
    to a large baking dish or sheet pan, but be very gentle -- the pork
    will be VERY tender and will fall apart easily!

    Then, use heat-proof mitts to lift the inner pot out of the pressure
    cooker, pour the cooking liquid into a fat separator, then pour the
    liquid back into the pot. Reserve the fat. (Alternatively, let the
    cooking liquid stand for about 10 minutes until the fat floats to the
    top, then use a shallow spoon to skim as much fat as possible from
    the surface.)

    REDUCE THE COOKING LIQUID: Return the pot to the pressure cooker,
    select the *Sauté* program, and let the cooking liquid reduce for 10
    minutes. (If you are using a stovetop pressure cooker, do the same
    thing over medium heat.) While the liquid is reducing, use a pair of
    forks to shred the pork.

    Broil the pulled pork until crispy (optional for carnitas): To make
    crispy carnitas, place the pan of shredded pork 6" to 8" below the
    broiler and broil for 5 to 10 minutes until the tips and edges of the
    pork are browned and crispy.

    It's fine to skip this step if you're making a recipe where you don't
    need the pork to be crispy.

    TOSS THE SHREDDED PORK WITH THE REDUCED LIQUID AND SERVE: Return the
    pork to the pot with the reduced cooking liquid and toss to coat the
    pork evenly. If the pork seems a little dry, add a tablespoon or two
    of the reserved fat.

    Serve it in tacos with the fixings listed above, or in burritos or
    rice bowls, or on a tostada salad.

    Yield: Makes 8 to 10 servings

    by Coco Morante

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.simplyrecipes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jun 25 06:51:25 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Sounds good. We'd started sort of looking for a replacement truck in
    2022, knowing the Frontier was aging (2010 model) but not seriously looking. Bought a new camper in late Februaary, 2023 and needed more towing horsepower so got serious about looking for a replacement.
    Stopped at a used car lot on our way home from Raleigh one afternoon
    and saw a "well, maybe but let's keep looking". A bit up the road was
    the Ford dealership so we pulled into there. They had a 2018 F-150
    sitting out, by itself, so we started looking. Ended up taking a test drive, then buying it.

    I really liked my little (mid-size, actually) Frontier that I drove for delivering AutoZone parts. So much so that I priced a new one at the
    local dealer. Now they've put them on steroids, just like all of the
    other smaller pick-ups and the current Frontier is larger than the 1976
    Chevy pick-up that I used to own. FEH! And used 2019 models are selling
    for more that what they stickered for new in 2019. Go figure.

    8<----- SLICE ----->8

    Hee's another Japanese thing I have eaten out but not made on my own.
    Once again, the prep is lengthy but the results seem to be worth it.

    Never tried it or seen it on the menu. Our favorite way to do leg
    quarters is to marinade them in an adaptation of the Cornell sauce,
    then grill.

    I just scored a 10# bag at Humphrey's. They're in the crockpots cooking
    down - to be separated into shredded chicken, bones, broth and skin. The
    broth will be chilled and the fat reserved as "schmaltz". The bones and
    skin will go into the freezer for next timw I make a batch of stock. The "shreddies" will get bundled and sucky bagged in reasonable sized bits
    for later meals.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Schmaltz Roasted Potatoes w/Crunchy Sage
    Categories: Five, Potatoes, Poultry, Herbs
    Yield: 2 Servings

    2 lg Russet baking potatoes
    1/2 c Chicken schmaltz
    1 tb Olive oil
    1 Handful fresh sage
    Salt & pepper

    Set oven @ 375ºF/190ºC.

    Meanwhile, peel and roughly chop potatoes into medium
    size chunks. Boil in a large pot for approximately 8
    minutes until you can easily puncture them with a knife,
    but so that they are still solid.

    Spoon your schmaltz into a medium roasting tin. Place
    it on your stovetop or (briefly) inside your oven,
    until the fat is mostly melted. Remove from heat.

    Drain the potatoes and place them in the roasting tin.
    Stir gently to distribute the now-liquid fat, then
    drizzle in the oil. Bake for approximately 15 minutes.

    Meanwhile, gather and chop your sage, if applicable.
    After about 15 minutes of baking, remove the potatoes,
    add the sage, and gently stir again. Place back in the
    oven for 5-10 minutes, or until potatoes are fully
    cooked and beginning to brown. At this point, move the
    roasting tin to the top shelf, turn your oven to broil,
    and monitor the potatoes until they are nicely browned
    and glistening.

    Remove from the pan using a slotted spoon (feel free to
    reserve some of the grease for dripping on the potatoes,
    though!), and be sure to fish out the little pieces of
    schmaltz-fried sage. Top with salt and pepper to taste,
    and serve immediately.

    These are also excellent as leftovers, but be aware:
    they will lose their signature crunchiness. I like to
    refresh and reuse them by frying them alongside my
    sizzling bacon in the morning! If schmaltz-roasted
    potatoes weren't decadent enough for you, try schmaltz-
    roasted, bacon grease fried breakfast potatoes.

    I make no apologies.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Dave Drum on Tue Jun 25 16:15:44 2024
    Re: Cast Iron was: Tex-Mex was: Traffic
    By: Dave Drum to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Jun 22 2024 06:41 am


    I'm slowly bringing a fellow from some place in Europe along with curing his first cast iron pan.

    Meantime, do you have a recipe in MM for Dinuguan? It's a filipeno pork blood stew. zabsolutely delicious! Granted not for the faint of heart but hey, faint of heart ain't me as you all know!

    I'm also having a fine time exploring my little air fryer. It's the super small version so you can only get 4 wings at a time in there (tips removed) but hey, it works!

    Silly store, some were marked up to a higher price per lb because the bag said 'air fryer ready'. Silly people. Inside the bag is just frozen plain wings. I found a 5lb bag of frozen wings for 13.99 (2.80lb) which isn't bad.

    I made them in batches of 4. We did 2 batches, using the first 2 as a sport of appetizer and serving the second 2 each with the sides for dinner.

    Tonight will be different. Charlotte just got home on leave before she deploys. She'll have leave afterwards as she transfers to Great Lakes for her next assignment.

    Anyways, first day was to go to Asian American market where she got curry gravy so we are using cubed pork loin and veggies over rice tonight.

    xxcarol
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Carol Shenkenberger on Wed Jun 26 07:44:58 2024
    Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I'm slowly bringing a fellow from some place in Europe along with
    curing his first cast iron pan.

    Meantime, do you have a recipe in MM for Dinuguan? It's a filipeno
    pork blood stew. zabsolutely delicious! Granted not for the faint of heart but hey, faint of heart ain't me as you all know!

    Your wish is my ... etc. I do have one. It was #1100 in a database of (currently) 20824 recipes. It would have been a larger number last week
    but I've been weeding dupes. The credits at the bottom are a bit of way-
    back machine nostalgia with names/sites seldom seen these days.

    I'm also having a fine time exploring my little air fryer. It's the
    super small version so you can only get 4 wings at a time in there
    (tips removed) but hey, it works!

    Silly store, some were marked up to a higher price per lb because the
    bag said 'air fryer ready'. Silly people. Inside the bag is just
    frozen plain wings. I found a 5lb bag of frozen wings for 13.99
    (2.80lb) which isn't bad.

    I don't fall (genrally) for marketroid tricks. My local go-to for meat (Humphrey's) ran both 10# bags of leg quarters and 5# bags of wings on
    special last week. The wings were U$2.29/lb in a 5# bag (frozen). The
    leg quarters I told about in yesterday's packet. The wings are currently
    in the freezer.

    I'll pull them out Friday evening and let them thaw in the ice box until Saturday afternoon when I'll put the tips into the pot with the bones
    and bits from the cooked thighs for making stock. The drumettes and the
    middle portions .... I dunno. I'll have to see what inspiration strikes.

    I made them in batches of 4. We did 2 batches, using the first 2 as a sport of appetizer and serving the second 2 each with the sides for dinner.

    I ditched my air-fryer ... which is, at root, just a mini-convection
    oven for a counter-top toaster/convection oven which has a not-much-
    bigger footprint on my limited counterspace and is *much* more useful.

    Tonight will be different. Charlotte just got home on leave before she deploys. She'll have leave afterwards as she transfers to Great Lakes
    for her next assignment.

    Great Lakes ...... eeeeewwwwwww. Been there, done that.

    Anyways, first day was to go to Asian American market where she got
    curry gravy so we are using cubed pork loin and veggies over rice
    tonight.

    My favourtie Asian market here, where I used to be able to buy freah
    durian (in their spiky husk) and very fresh spices, was levelled in a
    tornado along with its neighbor, Mr. Battery. They found new car batteries
    and durians as much as 5 miles from their original homes. Being hit by a tornado tossed car battery might flatten you. But getting socked by an in-the-shell durian would shred you. Bv)=

    There's a good reason that this area of Illinois is known as "Tornado
    Alley". We have high school sport teams called both Tornadoes and
    Cyclones.

    Here's that recipe. Enjoy ....

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dinuguan (Blood Stew)
    Categories: Pork, Stews, Offal, Chilies
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb Pork; diced
    2 tb Oil
    2 cl Garlic; minced
    1 lg Onion; diced
    1/4 lb Pork liver; diced
    1/2 c Vinegar
    2 tb Patis (fish sauce)
    1 ts Salt
    1/4 ts MSG (opt)
    1 1/2 c Broth
    1 c Frozen pigs blood
    2 ts Sugar
    3 Hot banana peppers *
    1/4 ts Oregano (opt)

    * Banana peppers are *very* mild. For heat substitite
    with Hungarian Wax peppers.

    Cover pork with water and simmer for 30 minutes. Remove
    from broth and dice. Save 1-1/2 cups of broth.

    In a 2-quart stainless steel or porcelain saucepan, heat
    oil and saute garlic and onions for a few minutes. Add
    pork, liver, patis, salt and MSG. Saute for 5 minutes
    more.

    Add vinegar and bring to a boil without stirring. Lower
    heat and simmer uncovered until most of the liquid has
    evaporated.

    Add broth. Simmer for 10 minutes. Stir in blood and
    sugar; cook until thick, stirring occasionally to avoid
    curdling.

    Add hot banana peppers and oregano and cook 5 minutes
    more.

    Serve hot.

    Serves 4

    Recipes by Dennis Santiago, TWS bbs

    Formatted by Manny Rothstein (1/24/94)

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    From: Http://Myfoxlubbock.Com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Jun 25 12:08:48 2024
    Hi Dave,

    The Taco Bells here are offering U$15/hour to start which lets them do more pick & choose. But it also raised their prices to where on can go
    to a sit-down (real) Mexican restaurant and have table service and a
    much mre varied manu.

    It's still good for those that want the pseudo Tex-Mex they grew up
    with or fast sorta Mexican food.

    Actually Taco Bell started as Cal-Mex - along with the much better but
    not so wide spread Taco Tico.

    I've not seen that one but have seen (and eaten at) Del Taco in both Las
    Vegas and greater Phoenix area. Don't recall seeing any in the Salt Lake
    City area. IIRC, they're somewhat better than Taco Bell but not greatly
    so. OTOH, both Rigoberto's and Filoberto's give you a burrito that's
    made with a 12" tortilla and well filled; I usually end up taking part
    of it to go.


    I've noticed that every sit-down Mexican plac I have visited, here, ot there, or anywhere has a lunch specail called the "Speedy Gonzales".
    If you remember Speedy Gonzales was a cartoon mouse claimed to be "The Fastest Mose In All Mexico". Bv)= I've never ordered that one.

    "Ariba, ariba, andelle" He's not on the menu of the better sit down Mexican places around here. Haven't been to one of the other places,
    you know, the ones that have a limited selection of tacos, tortillas,
    etc all with rice and salad in a while so can't say if they have a
    Speedy Gonzales there or not.

    It's listed on the "Lunch Specials", usually in one of the top three slots. Even at the up-market places in this area. What many of them
    don't have on their menus is pork dishes. And, since pork is my
    favourite vegetable, I'll tend to "write-off" the places that don't
    offer it.

    One of my current favourite Mexican luch places, El Dorado, offers a
    perk carnitas burrito with rice and beans, the burrito topped with a drizzle of queso blanco sauce and pico di gallo. If I have that for
    lunch, no supper for me. And maybe a nap mid-afternoon. It's a meal
    and a half.

    Now that sounds good! My favorite order at one of the better Mexican
    places in WF is called Tierra y Mar (earth and sea). It's a generous
    serving of yellow squash, bell peppers, onions, mushrooms, shrimp and
    chicken on rice, with a cheese sauce. I'll usually eat maybe 1/3 to 1/2
    and take the rest home.


    I gave my instant pot to my sister-in-law so I fake it using my Mom's
    old pressure cooker and the usual kitchn stuff.

    We have 2 non name brand instant pots, one for the camper, one for the
    house. The pulled pork looks like it would be a good thing to try, maybe
    make a batch to split between supper one night and freeze for taking
    camping. We've got a couple more trips planned this year, may try to do
    another one at some point.

    Title: Instant Pot Mexican Pulled Pork (Carnitas) DD>
    Categories: Pork, Herbs, Chilies, Fruits DD> Yield: 9 servings


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Jun 25 12:23:36 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Sounds good. We'd started sort of looking for a replacement truck in
    2022, knowing the Frontier was aging (2010 model) but not seriously
    the Ford dealership so we pulled into there. They had a 2018 F-150
    sitting out, by itself, so we started looking. Ended up taking a test drive, then buying it.

    I really liked my little (mid-size, actually) Frontier that I drove
    for delivering AutoZone parts. So much so that I priced a new one at
    the
    local dealer. Now they've put them on steroids, just like all of the

    We liked the Frontier but it just didn't have the "oomph"for towing that
    we needed. Could tell a definate difference between coming home thru the Rockies last year with the F-150 and several years prior with the
    Frontier.


    Never tried it or seen it on the menu. Our favorite way to do leg
    quarters is to marinade them in an adaptation of the Cornell sauce,
    then grill.

    I just scored a 10# bag at Humphrey's. They're in the crockpots
    cooking down - to be separated into shredded chicken, bones, broth and skin. The broth will be chilled and the fat reserved as "schmaltz".
    The bones and skin will go into the freezer for next timw I make a
    batch of stock. The "shreddies" will get bundled and sucky bagged in reasonable sized bits
    for later meals.

    Sounds good; I try to keep home made chicken stock on hand. Last bits of rotisserie chicken usually get cooked down and stock saved for soup or
    times I need broth.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jun 27 04:53:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Actually Taco Bell started as Cal-Mex - along with the much better but
    not so wide spread Taco Tico.

    I've not seen that one but have seen (and eaten at) Del Taco in both
    Las Vegas and greater Phoenix area. Don't recall seeing any in the Salt Lake City area. IIRC, they're somewhat better than Taco Bell but not greatly so. OTOH, both Rigoberto's and Filoberto's give you a burrito that's made with a 12" tortilla and well filled; I usually end up
    taking part of it to go.

    Taco Tico has shrunken dramatically and is now privately owned and its headquarters are in (of all places) Wichita, KS. Taco Bueno, OTOH ...

    8<----- SPEEDY STOPPED ----->8

    One of my current favourite Mexican luch places, El Dorado, offers a
    pork carnitas burrito with rice and beans, the burrito topped with a drizzle of queso blanco sauce and pico di gallo. If I have that for
    lunch, no supper for me. And maybe a nap mid-afternoon. It's a meal
    and a half.

    Now that sounds good! My favorite order at one of the better Mexican places in WF is called Tierra y Mar (earth and sea). It's a generous serving of yellow squash, bell peppers, onions, mushrooms, shrimp and chicken on rice, with a cheese sauce. I'll usually eat maybe 1/3 to 1/2 and take the rest home.

    Most places I'm a member of the "clean plate club". Except Sweet Basil
    Cafe. I proposed them for lunch one day and my friend, Les, declined.
    "Too much food." he said. He's right, the portions are huge. I began
    my Trip Advisor review with "You'd better come hungry." Bv)=

    I gave my instant pot to my sister-in-law so I fake it using my Mom's
    old pressure cooker and the usual kitchn stuff.

    We have 2 non name brand instant pots, one for the camper, one for the house. The pulled pork looks like it would be a good thing to try,
    maybe make a batch to split between supper one night and freeze for
    taking camping. We've got a couple more trips planned this year, may
    try to do another one at some point.

    Title: Instant Pot Mexican Pulled Pork (Carnitas)
    Categories: Pork, Herbs, Chilies, Fruits
    Yield: 9 servings

    I recently received a triple crock pot as a birthday gift. I appreciated
    the thought. But it just doesn't fit my tiny kitchen, nor my non-existing dining room. I'm going to ask around to see if I can re-gift it to some
    feed the hungry program or soup kitchen.

    Here's one that would work in the triple header. I'd leave off the okra
    and substitute file' powder as the thickener.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Sausage & Chicken Gumbo
    Categories: Pork, Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1/4 c A-P flour
    1/4 c Oil
    4 c Chicken broth; divided
    14 oz Rope smoked sausage; in 1/2"
    - slices
    1 c Sliced okra; thawed
    1 sm Bell pepper; chopped
    1 md Onion; chopped
    1 Celery rib; chopped
    3 cl Garlic; minced
    1/2 ts Pepper
    1/4 ts Salt
    1/4 ts Cayenne pepper
    2 c Coarse shredded cooked
    - chicken
    Hot cooked rice

    In a heavy saucepan, mix flour and oil until smooth;
    cook and stir over medium heat until light brown, about
    4 minutes. Reduce heat to medium-low; cook and stir
    until dark reddish brown, about 15 minutes (do not
    burn). Gradually stir in 3 cups broth; transfer to a 4
    or 5 qt. slow cooker.

    Stir in sausage, vegetables, garlic and seasonings.
    Cook, covered, on low until flavors are blended, 6-8
    hours. Stir in chicken and remaining broth; heat
    through. Serve with rice.

    Kael Harvey, Brooklyn, NY

    Makes 6 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jun 27 06:10:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I really liked my little (mid-size, actually) Frontier that I drove
    for delivering AutoZone parts. So much so that I priced a new one at
    the
    local dealer. Now they've put them on steroids, just like all of the

    We liked the Frontier but it just didn't have the "oomph"for towing
    that we needed. Could tell a definate difference between coming home
    thru the Rockies last year with the F-150 and several years prior with
    the Frontier.

    The one I drove for work was a "king cab" model with tiby fold-up back
    seats and a 4 cylinder engine. But it never whined nor whimpered no
    matter how heavily I loaded it. At various times I had the bed full,
    front to back, side to side, up to the top rails with car batteries.
    Made the back squat but it didn't complain about the weight. Another
    time I hauled 3 barrels (55 gallons ea) of washer fluid and ran right
    along at highway speeds. But, that was on central Illinois' flat land,
    not in the moutains. Bv)=

    The main thing I liked was it was easy to get in and out of and the
    controls, knobs and buttons "fit" me and were right where I expected
    them to be. Some engineer or engineer team did their homework on the
    ergonomics of the driver's position.

    Never tried it or seen it on the menu. Our favorite way to do leg
    quarters is to marinade them in an adaptation of the Cornell sauce,
    then grill.

    I just scored a 10# bag at Humphrey's. They're in the crockpots
    cooking down - to be separated into shredded chicken, bones, broth and skin. The broth will be chilled and the fat reserved as "schmaltz".
    The bones and skin will go into the freezer for next timw I make a
    batch of stock. The "shreddies" will get bundled and sucky bagged in reasonable sized bits for later meals.

    Sounds good; I try to keep home made chicken stock on hand. Last bits
    of rotisserie chicken usually get cooked down and stock saved for soup
    or times I need broth.

    This works for any sort of bird .......

    MMMMM-----Meal-Master - formatted by MMCONV 2.10

    Title: Homemade Turkey Stock
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Soups
    Servings: 7 pints

    1 Leftover turkey carcass;
    - from a 12 to 14 lb turkey
    4 qt Water
    2 md Carrots; sliced
    2 Celery ribs; sliced
    1 md Onion; sliced
    3 Fresh thyme sprigs
    +=OR=+
    1 ts Dried thyme
    2 ts Minced fresh basil
    +=OR=+
    1 ts Dried basil
    1 Sprig fresh parsley
    1 Bay leaf
    1 cl Garlic; minced
    Salt & Pepper

    Place all ingredients in a stockpot. Bring to a boil.
    Reduce heat; cover and simmer 1-1/2 hours.

    Discard turkey carcass. Cool broth 1 hour. Strain
    through a cheesecloth-lined colander; discard vegetables
    and herbs. If using immediately, skim fat from broth; or
    refrigerate 8 hours or overnight, then remove fat from
    surface. *

    Broth can be frozen up to 2-3 months.

    Makes: 3 1/2 quarts

    By: Angela Goodman

    * Or combine the skin, cartilage and veggies into a
    doggie dinner/treat. Fido will wag his tail. - UDD

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Jun 27 12:13:00 2024
    Hi Dave,


    One of my current favourite Mexican luch places, El Dorado, offers a
    pork carnitas burrito with rice and beans, the burrito topped with a drizzle of queso blanco sauce and pico di gallo. If I have that for
    lunch, no supper for me. And maybe a nap mid-afternoon. It's a meal
    and a half.

    Now that sounds good! My favorite order at one of the better Mexican places in WF is called Tierra y Mar (earth and sea). It's a generous serving of yellow squash, bell peppers, onions, mushrooms, shrimp and chicken on rice, with a cheese sauce. I'll usually eat maybe 1/3 to 1/2 and take the rest home.

    Most places I'm a member of the "clean plate club". Except Sweet Basil Cafe. I proposed them for lunch one day and my friend, Les, declined.
    "Too much food." he said. He's right, the portions are huge. I began
    my Trip Advisor review with "You'd better come hungry." Bv)=

    Most of the time I automatically split my entree in half when it's
    served. Used to be, I could eat the whole thing at once but a
    combination of portions getting bigger and stomach getting smaller,
    that's not realistic any more. Same place does serve some of their menu
    as lunch (smaller) portions but that one is not in the lunch listings.


    I gave my instant pot to my sister-in-law so I fake it using my Mom's
    old pressure cooker and the usual kitchn stuff.

    We have 2 non name brand instant pots, one for the camper, one for the house. The pulled pork looks like it would be a good thing to try,
    maybe make a batch to split between supper one night and freeze for
    taking camping. We've got a couple more trips planned this year, may
    try to do another one at some point.

    Title: Instant Pot Mexican Pulled Pork (Carnitas)
    Categories: Pork, Herbs, Chilies, Fruits
    Yield: 9 servings

    I recently received a triple crock pot as a birthday gift. I
    appreciated the thought. But it just doesn't fit my tiny kitchen, nor
    my non-existing dining room. I'm going to ask around to see if I can re-gift it to some feed the hungry program or soup kitchen.

    I saw those in the big box (Sam's and Costco) stores a few years ago,
    thought the idea was good for some applications but for my use, a full
    size crock pot was better. I've got (in addition to the "instant pots")
    a 6 quart crock pot, a 4 quart pot with a separate base (from my MIL)
    and a "baby" (1.5 quarts) crock pot. Smallest one gets the most use for
    just the 2 of us.


    Here's one that would work in the triple header. I'd leave off the
    okra and substitute file' powder as the thickener.


    Title: Sausage & Chicken Gumbo
    Categories: Pork, Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 6 Servings

    I'd probably cut it into 1/2 or 1/3 recipe and use the baby crock pot.
    Not sure about the okra; I like it but Steve doesn't.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Jun 27 12:23:54 2024
    Hi Dave,

    We liked the Frontier but it just didn't have the "oomph"for towing
    that we needed. Could tell a definate difference between coming home
    thru the Rockies last year with the F-150 and several years prior with
    the Frontier.

    The one I drove for work was a "king cab" model with tiby fold-up back seats and a 4 cylinder engine. But it never whined nor whimpered no
    matter how heavily I loaded it. At various times I had the bed full,
    front to back, side to side, up to the top rails with car batteries.
    Made the back squat but it didn't complain about the weight. Another
    time I hauled 3 barrels (55 gallons ea) of washer fluid and ran right along at highway speeds. But, that was on central Illinois' flat land,
    not in the moutains. Bv)=

    And not towing. Our truck was like your work truck. Steve kept a lot of
    stuff needed for the camper (but no room to stow in the camper) in the
    bed of the truck. After he got into radio, some of that went into the
    bed also. Performed well in the flat lands; it was towing, even in hilly country (not mountains) it wasn't as good.

    The main thing I liked was it was easy to get in and out of and the controls, knobs and buttons "fit" me and were right where I expected
    them to be. Some engineer or engineer team did their homework on the ergonomics of the driver's position.

    We needed something fast after our accident in December, 2016. This was available, also had the bed cover which was needed. The F-150 came with
    a bed cover but Steve found a cap on Craig's List (person wanted a bed
    cover) so some Yankee trading made both parties happy.


    Never tried it or seen it on the menu. Our favorite way to do leg
    quarters is to marinade them in an adaptation of the Cornell sauce,
    then grill.

    I just scored a 10# bag at Humphrey's. They're in the crockpots
    cooking down - to be separated into shredded chicken, bones, broth and skin. The broth will be chilled and the fat reserved as "schmaltz".
    The bones and skin will go into the freezer for next timw I make a
    batch of stock. The "shreddies" will get bundled and sucky bagged in reasonable sized bits for later meals.

    Sounds good; I try to keep home made chicken stock on hand. Last bits
    of rotisserie chicken usually get cooked down and stock saved for soup
    or times I need broth.

    This works for any sort of bird .......


    Title: Homemade Turkey Stock
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Soups
    Servings: 7 pints

    I generally use water, a bit of salt and Bragg's Seasoning (similar to
    Mrs. Dash). After the carcass is simmered for a bit, I'll cool it to
    where it can be deboned. If I'm making chicken soup, I'll add some
    turmeric at that time but not if I just want the stock.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jun 29 06:20:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Most places I'm a member of the "clean plate club". Except Sweet Basil Cafe. I proposed them for lunch one day and my friend, Les, declined.
    "Too much food." he said. He's right, the portions are huge. I began
    my Trip Advisor review with "You'd better come hungry." Bv)=

    Most of the time I automatically split my entree in half when it's
    served. Used to be, I could eat the whole thing at once but a
    combination of portions getting bigger and stomach getting smaller,
    that's not realistic any more. Same place does serve some of their menu
    as lunch (smaller) portions but that one is not in the lunch listings.

    Oriental, especially Chinese, venues seem to do gargantuan sized dinner
    and reasonable sized lunches. Even when I was younger and ate heartily
    most of the time I could not finish my diner serving at Ti Pan or Golden Dragon. So I soon learned to just go during lunch hours.

    And now my appetite seems diminished. No more 3 meals a day. I have a
    decent breakfast - usually eggs, meat, taters and toast/biscuit/pancake.
    I'm not hungry again until mid-afternoon to early evening. And a light
    meal usually suffices. I've noticed that my trousers aren't as tight as
    they used to be. A visit to my cardiologist told me that I've lost 35#
    in the past couple of moths - according to their scale. If this keeps
    up it could get expensive. There's a limit to how much pants can be
    "taken in."

    I gave my instant pot to my sister-in-law so I fake it using my Mom's
    old pressure cooker and the usual kitchn stuff.

    We have 2 non name brand instant pots, one for the camper, one for the house. The pulled pork looks like it would be a good thing to try,
    maybe make a batch to split between supper one night and freeze for
    taking camping. We've got a couple more trips planned this year, may
    try to do another one at some point.

    Title: Instant Pot Mexican Pulled Pork (Carnitas)
    Categories: Pork, Herbs, Chilies, Fruits
    Yield: 9 servings

    I recently received a triple crock pot as a birthday gift. I
    appreciated the thought. But it just doesn't fit my tiny kitchen, nor
    my non-existing dining room. I'm going to ask around to see if I can re-gift it to some feed the hungry program or soup kitchen.

    I saw those in the big box (Sam's and Costco) stores a few years ago, thought the idea was good for some applications but for my use, a full size crock pot was better. I've got (in addition to the "instant pots")
    a 6 quart crock pot, a 4 quart pot with a separate base (from my MIL)
    and a "baby" (1.5 quarts) crock pot. Smallest one gets the most use for just the 2 of us.

    I, too, have an assortment ... all with removable pots. 6 qt., 5 qt.,
    the casserole CrockPot, and the little guy (1 1/2 qt). The casserole
    pot and the small one get the most use.

    Here's one that would work in the triple header. I'd leave off the
    okra and substitute file' powder as the thickener.

    Title: Sausage & Chicken Gumbo
    Categories: Pork, Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 6 Servings

    I'd probably cut it into 1/2 or 1/3 recipe and use the baby crock pot.
    Not sure about the okra; I like it but Steve doesn't.

    Even though the African word for okra is "gumbo" which gave the dish its
    name - I still call m'em "snot pods". Even battered and deep fried they
    give me a slimy mouth feel..

    This recipe makes a *LOT*. Fortunately it freezes well.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Good News Creole Gumbo
    Categories: Pork, Beef, Seafood, Chilies, Herbs
    Yield: 20 Servings

    1 c All-purpose flour
    3/4 c Bacon drippings
    1 c Coarse chopped celery
    1 lg Onion; coarse chopped
    1 lg Bell pepper; cored, coarse
    - chopped
    2 cl Garlic; minced
    1 lb Andouille sausage; sliced
    3 qt Water
    6 ts Beef bouillon granules
    1 tb Granulated white sugar
    Salt; as needed
    2 tb Hot pepper sauce; to taste
    1/2 ts Tony Chachere's Cajun
    - seasoning (green can)
    4 Bay leaves
    1/2 ts Dried thyme leaves
    14 1/2 oz Can stewed tomatoes
    6 oz Can tomato sauce
    2 ts Gumbo file powder
    2 tb Bacon drippings
    20 oz Frozen, cut green beans;
    - thawed
    1 lb Lump crabmeat
    3 lb Uncooked medium shrimp;
    - peeled, deveined, tails
    - off
    2 tb Worcestershire sauce
    2 ts Gumbo file powder

    Make a roux by whisking the flour and 3/4 cup bacon
    drippings together in a large, heavy saucepan over
    medium-low heat to form a smooth mixture. Cook the roux,
    whisking constantly, until it turns a rich mahogany brown
    color. This can take 20 to 30 minutes; watch heat
    carefully and whisk constantly or roux will burn. Remove
    from heat; continue whisking until mixture stops cooking.

    Place the celery, onion, green bell pepper, and garlic
    into the work bowl of a food processor, and pulse until
    the vegetables are very finely chopped. Stir the
    vegetables into the roux, and mix in the sausage. Bring
    the mixture to a simmer over medium-low heat, and cook
    until vegetables are tender, 10 to 15 minutes. Remove
    from heat, and set aside.

    Bring the water and beef bouillon cubes to a boil in a
    large Dutch oven or soup pot. Stir until the bouillon
    cubes dissolve, and whisk the roux mixture into the
    boiling water. Reduce heat to a simmer, and mix in the
    sugar, salt, hot pepper sauce, Cajun seasoning, bay
    leaves, thyme, stewed tomatoes, and tomato sauce. Simmer
    the soup over low heat for 1 hour; mix in 2 teaspoons of
    file gumbo powder at the 45-minute mark.

    Meanwhile, melt 2 tablespoons of bacon drippings in a
    skillet, and cook the green beans over medium heat for 15
    minutes; remove okra with slotted spoon, and stir into
    the simmering gumbo. Mix in crabmeat, shrimp, and
    Worcestershire sauce, and simmer until flavors have
    blended, 45 more minutes. Just before serving, stir in 2
    more teaspoons of file gumbo powder.

    Serve over cooked rice.

    RECIPE FROM: http://allrecipes.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jun 29 06:22:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    The main thing I liked was it was easy to get in and out of and the controls, knobs and buttons "fit" me and were right where I expected
    them to be. Some engineer or engineer team did their homework on the ergonomics of the driver's position.

    We needed something fast after our accident in December, 2016. This was available, also had the bed cover which was needed. The F-150 came with
    a bed cover but Steve found a cap on Craig's List (person wanted a bed cover) so some Yankee trading made both parties happy.

    I've never had (nor wanted) a bed cover. Or, for thst matter, a topper.
    My brother had a pickup with a hard bed cover that raised up like the
    hood of a car. It made getting at stuff up near the cab an occasion for
    strong language and a bad attitude. Bv)=

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    Never tried it or seen it on the menu. Our favorite way to do leg
    quarters is to marinade them in an adaptation of the Cornell sauce,
    then grill.

    I just scored a 10# bag at Humphrey's. They're in the crockpots
    cooking down - to be separated into shredded chicken, bones, broth and skin. The broth will be chilled and the fat reserved as "schmaltz".
    The bones and skin will go into the freezer for next timw I make a
    batch of stock. The "shreddies" will get bundled and sucky bagged in reasonable sized bits for later meals.

    Sounds good; I try to keep home made chicken stock on hand. Last bits
    of rotisserie chicken usually get cooked down and stock saved for soup
    or times I need broth.

    This works for any sort of bird .......

    Title: Homemade Turkey Stock
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Soups
    Servings: 7 pints

    I generally use water, a bit of salt and Bragg's Seasoning (similar to Mrs. Dash). After the carcass is simmered for a bit, I'll cool it to
    where it can be deboned. If I'm making chicken soup, I'll add some turmeric at that time but not if I just want the stock.

    Do you add the flesh back into the stockpot? Or save and freeze it for
    use down the road? If I'm doing leg quarters I reserve the skin to one
    side to add to the stock after I strain out the bones and veg. Let it
    come back to temperature then blend it with the immersion blender for
    a very "rich" stock.

    Another use for chicken skin(s) ........

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Schmaltz & Gribenes
    Categories: Five, Poultry, Vegetables
    Yield: 2 Cups

    3/4 lb Chicken skin & fat; diced
    1/4 ts Salt
    1/2 md Onion; peeled, in 1/4"
    - slices (opt)

    In a large nonstick skillet over medium heat, toss
    chicken skin and fat with salt and 1 tablespoon water
    and spread out in one layer. Cook over medium heat for
    about 15 minutes, until fat starts to render and skin
    begins to turn golden at the edges.

    Add onions and cook 45 to 60 minutes longer, tossing
    occasionally, until chicken skin and onions are crispy
    and richly browned, but not burned.

    Strain through a sieve. Reserve the schmaltz. If you
    want the gribenes to be crispier, return to the skillet
    and cook over high heat until done to taste. Drain
    gribenes on a paper-towel-lined plate.

    TIP: If you'd rather make the schmaltz in the oven (less
    splatter), skip the water, spread salted skin and fat on
    a baking sheet, and bake @ 350ºF/175ºC, stirring every
    10 minutes. Add onion after 15 minutes. The timing will
    be about the same for both methods.

    By: Melissa Clark

    Yield: 1/2 cup schmaltz, 2 cups gribenes

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Dave Drum on Sat Jun 29 13:07:31 2024
    Re: Re: Cast Iron
    By: Dave Drum to Carol Shenkenberger on Wed Jun 26 2024 07:44 am


    Thanks! Saved. I didn't quote it all but my Air fryer is way smaller footprint than a toaster oven and I don't cook the type of things that would suit a toaster oven. Last night I used the oven for the baked Cod and 8 Bagettes plus 4 rolls. I hadn't used the gas oven in about a week, Normally it's just for bread.

    We use the regular toaster fairly often though. Tonigt it will be used to make 1 1/2 bagettes into bruchetta with fresh chopped tomatoes from the garden, green onions from the garden, minced bits of raw garlic and a little kosher salt and olive oil. I'll have 2 pieces left over for munchies later that night. It's paired with a cremeni mushroom butter sautee and Korean cross cut beef ribs simmered in a mild curry gravy and rice for excess gravy plus steamed baby bok choy leaves.

    Yeah I know. We eat wierd. Healthy but wierd.

    Thanks for the recipe!

    xxcarol
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Dave Drum on Sat Jun 29 14:21:11 2024
    Re: Re: Tex-Mex
    By: Dave Drum to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jun 29 2024 06:20 am


    H Dave, on your loss of weight, it might be a good thing? Women are lucky there as we can wear dresses and skirts. I mostly am found in crinkle cut floor length dresses which look good on me and hide that I'm only 103 lbs these days. Yes, I still struugle to gain weight here.

    xxcarol
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Jun 30 04:37:00 2024
    Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Thanks! Saved. I didn't quote it all but my Air fryer is way smaller footprint than a toaster oven and I don't cook the type of things that would suit a toaster oven. Last night I used the oven for the baked
    Cod and 8 Bagettes plus 4 rolls. I hadn't used the gas oven in about a week, Normally it's just for bread.

    We use the regular toaster fairly often though. Tonigt it will be used
    to make 1 1/2 bagettes into bruchetta with fresh chopped tomatoes from
    the garden, green onions from the garden, minced bits of raw garlic and
    a little kosher salt and olive oil. I'll have 2 pieces left over for munchies later that night. It's paired with a cremeni mushroom butter sautee and Korean cross cut beef ribs simmered in a mild curry gravy
    and rice for excess gravy plus steamed baby bok choy leaves.

    Yeah I know. We eat wierd. Healthy but wierd.

    Thanks for the recipe!

    We all eat to suit ourselves. I don't air fry often, even though the
    toaster over will do that. My deep fat fryer works best for me. 'specially
    when I'm doing tempra. And it get my French Fries more crispy. This was
    done at my brother's house for last night's supper. (He bought the steaks)

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Grilled New York Strips w/Caramelized Onion Sauce
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Greens, Herbs
    Yield: 6 servings

    1 tb Bbutter
    5 tb Olive oil; divided
    1 md Yellow onion; thin sliced
    1/2 ts Kosher sea salt
    1/4 ts Black pepper
    3/4 c ketchup
    1/4 c Worcestershire sauce
    1/4 c Fresh lemon juice
    1/4 c Balsamic vinegar
    3 tb Soy sauce
    2 tb (packed) brown sugar
    ? ts Garlic powder
    6 (8 oz ea) boneless New York
    - Strip steaks; 1" thick
    2 tb Pepper & garlic seasoning
    8 c Torn fresh kale
    1 ts Crushed red pepper flakes
    Gorgonzola cheese; crumbled

    For caramelized onions, in a large skillet heat butter
    and 1 tablespoon olive oil over medium heat. Add onions
    and cook for 25 to 30 minutes or until deep golden
    brown, stirring frequently. Stir in salt and pepper; set
    aside.

    While onions are cooking, in a small saucepan whisk
    together ketchup, Worcestershire sauce, lemon juice,
    vinegar, soy sauce, brown sugar and garlic powder. Bring
    to boiling; reduce heat. Simmer for 20 minutes or until
    reduced to 1 cup. Stir caramelized onions into sauce;
    set aside.

    Rub steaks with pepper and garlic seasoning. Let stand
    for 10 minutes. Preheat a charcoal or gas grill to
    medium heat for direct cooking.

    Grill steaks to desired doneness, turning once. Grill 10
    to 12 minutes for medium rare (145 degrees) or 12 to 15
    minutes for medium (160 degrees). Let steaks rest for 3
    to 5 minutes, so juices redistribute evenly throughout
    the steak.

    Cook kale in batches in remaining 4 tablespoons oil in a
    large skillet over medium-high heat until wilted. Season
    to taste with salt and sprinkle with crushed red pepper.

    Top steaks with caramelized onion steak sauce and
    Gorgonzola. Serve with kale.

    By: Hy-Vee Test Kitchen

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.hy-vee.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Jun 30 04:58:00 2024
    Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    H Dave, on your loss of weight, it might be a good thing? Women are
    lucky there as we can wear dresses and skirts. I mostly am found in crinkle cut floor length dresses which look good on me and hide that
    I'm only 103 lbs these days. Yes, I still struugle to gain weight here.MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: The Famous Salvation Army Donuts
    Categories: Breads, Snacks
    Yield: 15 Doughnuts

    2 c All-purpose flour
    1 ts (level) baking powder
    1 tb Lard
    1 1/2 c Sugar
    1/4 ts (level) salt
    1/4 ts (level) ground nutmeg
    1/4 ts (level) ground cinnamon
    1/2 c Milk
    1 lg Egg
    Lard for deep frying

    Recipe courtesy Salvation Army

    Reserve 1/4 cup of the flour for the board. Combine the
    remaining flour with the baking powder and set aside.
    Cream the lard, 1/2 cup of the sugar, salt, nutmeg and
    cinnamon. Add milk and well-beaten egg and stir. Then add
    the flour-baking powder mixture. Work into a soft dough
    and roll onto the floured board into a 1/4" thick sheet.

    Cut into the desired shape and fry in the oil, heated to
    about 375oF/190oC. Turn donuts frequently while frying.

    The fat should be hot enough to give the donuts a rich
    golden-russet color in 3 minutes. While hot, roll donuts
    in remaining sugar. This recipe will make about 15 good
    sized donuts.

    Yield: 15 donuts

    From: http://www.foodnetwork.com

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    happy with it. I had noticed that my work pants were getting very loose
    around the waist. And the scale confirmed what I thought. Even though
    I use suspenders I like my britches to be a closer fit than is current.

    I suppose I'll have t keep an eye open for Dickies to have a killer
    sale amd do somethig about that. The old "fat boy" pants can go to the
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jun 29 13:38:38 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Most places I'm a member of the "clean plate club". Except Sweet Basil Cafe. I proposed them for lunch one day and my friend, Les, declined.
    "Too much food." he said. He's right, the portions are huge. I began
    my Trip Advisor review with "You'd better come hungry." Bv)=

    Most of the time I automatically split my entree in half when it's
    served. Used to be, I could eat the whole thing at once but a
    combination of portions getting bigger and stomach getting smaller,
    that's not realistic any more. Same place does serve some of their menu
    as lunch (smaller) portions but that one is not in the lunch listings.

    Oriental, especially Chinese, venues seem to do gargantuan sized
    dinner and reasonable sized lunches. Even when I was younger and ate heartily
    most of the time I could not finish my diner serving at Ti Pan or
    Golden Dragon. So I soon learned to just go during lunch hours.

    This place has one menu jacket for both lunch and supper; next time we
    go, I'll check and see if the smaller size portions are available for
    supper or just lunch hours. We've been going there off and on, on
    Sundays after church with friends. They went on Mother's Day/Cinco de
    Mayo this year; we got there and saw how crowded it was, took off for
    another place where we got seated right away.

    And now my appetite seems diminished. No more 3 meals a day. I have
    a DD> decent breakfast - usually eggs, meat, taters and DD>
    toast/biscuit/pancake. I'm not hungry again until mid-afternoon to DD>
    early evening. And a light DD> meal usually suffices. I've noticed that

    I usually have a light breakfast (small bagel or half a regular sized
    one), cup of yogurt, small piece of cheese and cup of tea. Lunch is
    usually a light sandwich or bowl of soup; supper will vary from a slice
    of pizza to small piece of meat with one or 2 vegetables and light
    dessert.

    my trousers aren't as tight DD> as they used to be. A visit to my
    cardiologist told me that I've lost DD> 35# DD> in the past couple of
    moths - according to their scale. If this keeps DD> up it could get

    Good going! I need to up my exercise factor and try to shed a few
    pounds.


    expensive. There's a limit to how much pants can be DD> "taken in."

    I know, I've both taken them in and let them out as a seamstress for
    hire. (G)


    I gave my instant pot to my sister-in-law so I fake it using my Mom's
    old pressure cooker and the usual kitchn stuff.

    We have 2 non name brand instant pots, one for the camper, one for the house. The pulled pork looks like it would be a good thing to try,
    maybe make a batch to split between supper one night and freeze for
    taking camping. We've got a couple more trips planned this year, may
    try to do another one at some point.

    Title: Instant Pot Mexican Pulled Pork (Carnitas)
    Categories: Pork, Herbs, Chilies, Fruits
    Yield: 9 servings

    I recently received a triple crock pot as a birthday gift. I
    appreciated the thought. But it just doesn't fit my tiny kitchen, nor
    my non-existing dining room. I'm going to ask around to see if I can re-gift it to some feed the hungry program or soup kitchen.

    I saw those in the big box (Sam's and Costco) stores a few years ago, thought the idea was good for some applications but for my use, a full size crock pot was better. I've got (in addition to the "instant pots")
    a 6 quart crock pot, a 4 quart pot with a separate base (from my MIL)
    and a "baby" (1.5 quarts) crock pot. Smallest one gets the most use for just the 2 of us.

    I, too, have an assortment ... all with removable pots. 6 qt., 5 qt.,
    the casserole CrockPot, and the little guy (1 1/2 qt). The casserole
    pot and the small one get the most use.

    I use the 6 quart one from time to time but it usually means a lot of
    left overs (unless I'm doing chili for a cook off, then it usually comes
    home empty or nearly so).

    Here's one that would work in the triple header. I'd leave off the
    okra and substitute file' powder as the thickener.

    Title: Sausage & Chicken Gumbo
    Categories: Pork, Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 6 Servings

    I'd probably cut it into 1/2 or 1/3 recipe and use the baby crock pot.
    Not sure about the okra; I like it but Steve doesn't.

    Even though the African word for okra is "gumbo" which gave the dish
    its name - I still call m'em "snot pods". Even battered and deep fried they give me a slimy mouth feel..

    I like it best deep fried, used to order it all the time if we went
    somewhere and it was on the menu. Now it's maybe half the time. (G)

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    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jun 29 13:52:25 2024
    Hi Dave,

    We needed something fast after our accident in December, 2016. This was available, also had the bed cover which was needed. The F-150 came with
    a bed cover but Steve found a cap on Craig's List (person wanted a bed cover) so some Yankee trading made both parties happy.

    I've never had (nor wanted) a bed cover. Or, for thst matter, a
    topper. My brother had a pickup with a hard bed cover that raised up
    like the
    hood of a car. It made getting at stuff up near the cab an occasion
    for strong language and a bad attitude. Bv)=

    A bed cover helps keep the stuff in the back of the truck dry. Camper
    doesn't have enough room to carry all that Steve wants; add radio stuff
    to the camping gear and a bed is very handy. He has a tall cover so
    built a "mezzinine" (as a friend called it) to double stack stuff and
    just got a bed slide out to make getting to the stuff near the cab
    easier. Contrast that to my carrying a small sewing machine, small box
    of supplies (scissors, pins, etc), ironing pad and travel iron. (G)

    8----- JUMP SHIFT ----->8


    This works for any sort of bird .......

    Title: Homemade Turkey Stock
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Soups
    Servings: 7 pints

    I generally use water, a bit of salt and Bragg's Seasoning (similar to Mrs. Dash). After the carcass is simmered for a bit, I'll cool it to
    where it can be deboned. If I'm making chicken soup, I'll add some turmeric at that time but not if I just want the stock.

    Do you add the flesh back into the stockpot? Or save and freeze it for
    use down the road? If I'm doing leg quarters I reserve the skin to one side to add to the stock after I strain out the bones and veg. Let it
    come back to temperature then blend it with the immersion blender for
    a very "rich" stock.

    Meat goes back in the stock if I'm making soup, otherwise gets used in a variety of ways.


    Another use for chicken skin(s) ........


    Title: Schmaltz & Gribenes
    Categories: Five, Poultry, Vegetables
    Yield: 2 Cups

    They are good. (G)

    I've got a couple of good sized thighs marinading in a marinade I picked
    up from Wegman's, see how it compares to the recipe we usually do.
    They'll go on the grill for supper tonight, along with some steamed
    fresh from the farmer's market green beans and something else.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jul 1 06:45:52 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Oriental, especially Chinese, venues seem to do gargantuan sized
    dinner and reasonable sized lunches. Even when I was younger and ate heartily most of the time I could not finish my dinmer serving at
    Tai Pan> or Golden Dragon. So I soon learned to just go during lunch hours.

    This place has one menu jacket for both lunch and supper; next time we
    go, I'll check and see if the smaller size portions are available for supper or just lunch hours. We've been going there off and on, on
    Sundays after church with friends. They went on Mother's Day/Cinco de
    Mayo this year; we got there and saw how crowded it was, took off for another place where we got seated right away.

    Most of the venues around this area have the lunch menu available until
    15:00. Which is good for me as I sometimes take a late lunch.

    And now my appetite seems diminished. No more 3 meals a day. I have
    a decent breakfast - usually eggs, meat, taters and toast/biscuit/ pancake. I'm not hungry again until mid-afternoon or early evening.
    And a light meal usually suffices. I've noticed that

    I usually have a light breakfast (small bagel or half a regular sized one), cup of yogurt, small piece of cheese and cup of tea. Lunch is usually a light sandwich or bowl of soup; supper will vary from a slice
    of pizza to small piece of meat with one or 2 vegetables and light dessert.

    my trousers aren't as tight as they used to be. A visit to my
    cardiologist told me that I've lost 35# in the past couple of
    moths - according to their scale. If this keeps up it could get

    Good going! I need to up my exercise factor and try to shed a few
    pounds.

    expensive. There's a limit to how much pants can be "taken in."

    I know, I've both taken them in and let them out as a seamstress
    for hire. (G)

    I am not sempster (sempster (ess) found in: Thesaurus, Wikipedia.

    sempster (ess) also "sɛmpstrɪs" noun

    1. (Knitting & Sewing) a rare word for seamstress
    2. (Professions) a rare word for seamstress

    https://www.thefreedictionary.com/

    Picked that word up from a Robert Heinlein Sci-Fi novel.

    8<----- CUT ----->8

    I use the 6 quart one from time to time but it usually means a lot of
    left overs (unless I'm doing chili for a cook off, then it usually
    comes home empty or nearly so).

    Does your big crockpot have a locking lid? Mine doesn't and while I've
    used it to transport chilli (to work, to a gathering, etc.) I have to
    drive verrry carefully and not make any sudden moves lest I get chilli
    all over the floor/carpet in the Beemer.

    Here's one that would work in the triple header. I'd leave off the
    okra and substitute file' powder as the thickener.

    Title: Sausage & Chicken Gumbo
    Categories: Pork, Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 6 Servings

    I'd probably cut it into 1/2 or 1/3 recipe and use the baby crock pot.
    Not sure about the okra; I like it but Steve doesn't.

    Even though the African word for okra is "gumbo" which gave the dish
    its name - I still call m'em "snot pods". Even battered and deep fried they give me a slimy mouth feel..

    I like it best deep fried, used to order it all the time if we went somewhere and it was on the menu. Now it's maybe half the time. (G)

    I hereby bequeath you my lifetime share of snot pods - in perpetuity.
    Bv)=

    Here it is - paired with another of my least favourite foods - grits,
    aka wallboard spackle. You probably couldn't serve this to Steve since
    grits is, at root, corn that has has unconscionable things done to it.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Okra-Grits Recipe
    Categories: Vegan, Vegetables, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 999 Servings

    1 1/2 lb Fresh or frozen okra
    28 oz Can tomatoes; or more (more
    - tomatoes = more tomatoey)
    10 cl Fine chopped garlic
    1 lg Vidalia-type onion; chopped
    3 Turkish bay leaves
    1/2 ts Cayenne pepper
    1/8 ts Dry thyme
    1 ts Dry oregano
    1 ts Vegetarian Worcestershire
    - sauce (opt)
    Salt & pepper
    Tabasco
    Grits to serve it over

    Saute the okra, onions and garlic in a little water, stock
    or court-bouillonr until the okra begins to lose its
    stickiness and the onions are nice and translucent.

    Add the canned tomatoes (juice and all) squashing the
    tomatoes themselves with your hands or other device.

    Add all remaining spices and let simmer 1/2 hour (or a
    little more if you want it more done).

    Serve over the grits or what-have-you and you're all set
    ... goes well with cornbread!

    I am originally from the south... and I have always missed
    the hearty (and usually fat filled) fare. But this tasty
    dish is quick, easy, fat free and delicious. (sic)

    FROM: Franklin Fuller

    From: http://www.fatfree.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jul 1 06:58:16 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    We needed something fast after our accident in December, 2016. This was available, also had the bed cover which was needed. The F-150 came with
    a bed cover but Steve found a cap on Craig's List (person wanted a bed cover) so some Yankee trading made both parties happy.

    I've never had (nor wanted) a bed cover. Or, for thst matter, a
    topper. My brother had a pickup with a hard bed cover that raised up
    like the hood of a car. It made getting at stuff up near the cab
    an occasion for strong language and a bad attitude. Bv)=

    A bed cover helps keep the stuff in the back of the truck dry. Camper doesn't have enough room to carry all that Steve wants; add radio stuff
    to the camping gear and a bed is very handy. He has a tall cover so
    built a "mezzinine" (as a friend called it) to double stack stuff and
    just got a bed slide out to make getting to the stuff near the cab
    easier. Contrast that to my carrying a small sewing machine, small box
    of supplies (scissors, pins, etc), ironing pad and travel iron. (G)

    Sounds like you might have been better off with a van. But not the "on steroids" that Dodge and Ford are currently pushing. More like the old
    E-150 I used to tow my race cars with.

    8----- JUMP SHIFT ----->8

    This works for any sort of bird .......

    Title: Homemade Turkey Stock
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Soups
    Servings: 7 pints

    I generally use water, a bit of salt and Bragg's Seasoning (similar to Mrs. Dash). After the carcass is simmered for a bit, I'll cool it to
    where it can be deboned. If I'm making chicken soup, I'll add some turmeric at that time but not if I just want the stock.

    Do you add the flesh back into the stockpot? Or save and freeze it for
    use down the road? If I'm doing leg quarters I reserve the skin to one side to add to the stock after I strain out the bones and veg. Let it
    come back to temperature then blend it with the immersion blender for
    a very "rich" stock.

    Meat goes back in the stock if I'm making soup, otherwise gets used in
    a variety of ways.

    Like at my house. If I'm going straight to soup. But, that's seldom.
    And there are any number of place where some shredded, well cooked
    buzzard comes in handy. Bv)=

    Another use for chicken skin(s) ........

    Title: Schmaltz & Gribenes
    Categories: Five, Poultry, Vegetables
    Yield: 2 Cups

    They are good. (G)

    I've got a couple of good sized thighs marinading in a marinade I
    picked up from Wegman's, see how it compares to the recipe we usually
    do. They'll go on the grill for supper tonight, along with some steamed fresh from the farmer's market green beans and something else.

    I picked up a nice cantaloupe at Suttil'd Garden. It will become "bowls"
    for the chicken salad I have planned for tonight's supper.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dave's Chicken Salad
    Categories: Poultry, Herbs, Dairy, Citrus, Chilies
    Yield: 4 Servings

    3 c Cooked chicken; cut up
    1/4 c + 2 tb dairy sour cream
    1/4 c + 2 tb mayonnaise
    1/4 c Carrot; fine chopped
    2 tb Cilantro; fine snipped
    2 tb Capers (opt)
    2 tb Canned pimentos; chopped
    4 oz Can chopped green chilies
    2 tb Lime juice
    1/2 ts Cumin; ground
    1/2 ts Oregano leaves; dried
    1/2 c Onion; chopped
    1/2 c Diced celery
    1 Avocado; peeled, in wedges
    - (opt)

    Toss all ingredients except avocado and paprika.

    Use to stuff melons, tomatoes or make sandwiches.

    If making sandwiches lettuce leaves are recommended.
    And coarse toasted bread or croissants.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Dave Drum on Mon Jul 1 17:21:30 2024
    Re: Re: Tex-Mex
    By: Dave Drum to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Jun 30 2024 04:58 am

    Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    H Dave, on your loss of weight, it might be a good thing? Women are lucky there as we can wear dresses and skirts. I mostly am found in crinkle cut floor length dresses which look good on me and hide that I'm only 103 lbs these days. Yes, I still struugle to gain weight here.MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: The Famous Salvation Army Donuts
    Categories: Breads, Snacks
    Yield: 15 Doughnuts

    2 c All-purpose flour
    1 ts (level) baking powder
    1 tb Lard
    1 1/2 c Sugar
    1/4 ts (level) salt
    1/4 ts (level) ground nutmeg
    1/4 ts (level) ground cinnamon
    1/2 c Milk
    1 lg Egg
    Lard for deep frying

    Recipe courtesy Salvation Army

    Reserve 1/4 cup of the flour for the board. Combine the
    remaining flour with the baking powder and set aside.
    Cream the lard, 1/2 cup of the sugar, salt, nutmeg and
    cinnamon. Add milk and well-beaten egg and stir. Then add
    the flour-baking powder mixture. Work into a soft dough
    and roll onto the floured board into a 1/4" thick sheet.

    Cut into the desired shape and fry in the oil, heated to
    about 375oF/190oC. Turn donuts frequently while frying.

    The fat should be hot enough to give the donuts a rich
    golden-russet color in 3 minutes. While hot, roll donuts
    in remaining sugar. This recipe will make about 15 good
    sized donuts.

    Yield: 15 donuts

    From: http://www.foodnetwork.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM


    My cardiologist, whose scales to me I had lost the pounds seemed to be
    happy with it. I had noticed that my work pants were getting very loose around the waist. And the scale confirmed what I thought. Even though
    I use suspenders I like my britches to be a closer fit than is current.

    I suppose I'll have t keep an eye open for Dickies to have a killer
    sale amd do somethig about that. The old "fat boy" pants can go to the
    Sally Anne for their Op Shop.


    ... When they finish a new hive, do bees have a house swarming party?

    Glad for you on that! My Spine Doc is also happy and I admit less pain but now I have a new one. My butt is so boney it's hard to cushion it!

    LOL, oh well.

    xxcarol
    --- SBBSecho 2.11-Win32
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Jul 1 12:34:33 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Most of the venues around this area have the lunch menu available
    until 15:00. Which is good for me as I sometimes take a late lunch.

    That's as good as a late breakfast for those of us that don't like it at
    the crack of dawn.

    my trousers aren't as tight as they used to be. A visit to my
    cardiologist told me that I've lost 35# in the past couple of
    moths - according to their scale. If this keeps up it could get

    Good going! I need to up my exercise factor and try to shed a few
    pounds.

    expensive. There's a limit to how much pants can be "taken in."

    I know, I've both taken them in and let them out as a seamstress
    for hire. (G)

    I am not sempster (sempster (ess) found in: Thesaurus, Wikipedia.

    sempster (ess) also "sɛmpstrɪs" noun

    1. (Knitting & Sewing) a rare word for seamstress
    2. (Professions) a rare word for seamstress

    https://www.thefreedictionary.com/

    Picked that word up from a Robert Heinlein Sci-Fi novel.

    I picked up the term from Alison Weir/Philippa Gregory, both British
    authors writing a lot about the pre thru post Henry VIII era. Our older daughter got me interested in those books when I borrowed one of hers
    and she said "keep it". I've quite a number of them on my Nook.


    8<----- CUT ----->8

    I use the 6 quart one from time to time but it usually means a lot of
    left overs (unless I'm doing chili for a cook off, then it usually
    comes home empty or nearly so).

    Does your big crockpot have a locking lid? Mine doesn't and while I've used it to transport chilli (to work, to a gathering, etc.) I have to drive verrry carefully and not make any sudden moves lest I get chilli
    all over the floor/carpet in the Beemer.

    Yes, it has a locking lid; we make sure it's locked down before
    transporting and usually put it in a box, lined with towels as well. We
    also put a lightweight bungee cord over the top as extra insurance.

    Here's one that would work in the triple header. I'd leave off the
    okra and substitute file' powder as the thickener.

    Title: Sausage & Chicken Gumbo
    Categories: Pork, Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 6 Servings

    I'd probably cut it into 1/2 or 1/3 recipe and use the baby crock pot.
    Not sure about the okra; I like it but Steve doesn't.

    Even though the African word for okra is "gumbo" which gave the dish
    its name - I still call m'em "snot pods". Even battered and deep fried they give me a slimy mouth feel..

    I like it best deep fried, used to order it all the time if we went somewhere and it was on the menu. Now it's maybe half the time. (G)

    I hereby bequeath you my lifetime share of snot pods - in perpetuity.
    Bv)=

    IIRC, you made this bequeast some years ago---but it doesn't hurt to
    refresh it now and again. (G)


    Here it is - paired with another of my least favourite foods - grits,
    aka wallboard spackle. You probably couldn't serve this to Steve since grits is, at root, corn that has has unconscionable things done to it.


    Title: Okra-Grits Recipe
    Categories: Vegan, Vegetables, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 999 Servings

    No, he's not that fond of grits anyway, but again, I like them. At one
    of our favorite seafood restaurants, my usual order is their shrimp and
    grits, half size portion so I have room for clam chowder or seafood
    bisque (just a cup) as well.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... 90% of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Jul 1 12:46:09 2024
    Hi Dave,

    A bed cover helps keep the stuff in the back of the truck dry. Camper doesn't have enough room to carry all that Steve wants; add radio stuff
    to the camping gear and a bed is very handy. He has a tall cover so
    built a "mezzinine" (as a friend called it) to double stack stuff and
    just got a bed slide out to make getting to the stuff near the cab
    easier. Contrast that to my carrying a small sewing machine, small box
    of supplies (scissors, pins, etc), ironing pad and travel iron. (G)

    Sounds like you might have been better off with a van. But not the "on steroids" that Dodge and Ford are currently pushing. More like the old E-150 I used to tow my race cars with.

    We had a van at one time, a Chevy Lumina APV, actually kept it for 14
    years. Bought when we were coming back to the States from Germany,
    donated it to charity when we left HI. Steve thought a truck would be
    better for stowing camping gear that didn't fit into the camper (carried
    in the back of the Escape prior to the accident) so found the Frontier
    at a Car Max outside of SLC.

    8----- JUMP SHIFT ----->8

    This works for any sort of bird .......

    Title: Homemade Turkey Stock
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Soups
    Servings: 7 pints

    I generally use water, a bit of salt and Bragg's Seasoning (similar to Mrs. Dash). After the carcass is simmered for a bit, I'll cool it to
    where it can be deboned. If I'm making chicken soup, I'll add some turmeric at that time but not if I just want the stock.

    Do you add the flesh back into the stockpot? Or save and freeze it for
    use down the road? If I'm doing leg quarters I reserve the skin to one side to add to the stock after I strain out the bones and veg. Let it
    come back to temperature then blend it with the immersion blender for
    a very "rich" stock.

    Meat goes back in the stock if I'm making soup, otherwise gets used in
    a variety of ways.

    Like at my house. If I'm going straight to soup. But, that's seldom.
    And there are any number of place where some shredded, well cooked
    buzzard comes in handy. Bv)=

    Another use for chicken skin(s) ........

    Title: Schmaltz & Gribenes
    Categories: Five, Poultry, Vegetables
    Yield: 2 Cups

    They are good. (G)

    I've got a couple of good sized thighs marinading in a marinade I
    picked up from Wegman's, see how it compares to the recipe we usually
    do. They'll go on the grill for supper tonight, along with some steamed fresh from the farmer's market green beans and something else.

    I picked up a nice cantaloupe at Suttil'd Garden. It will become
    "bowls" for the chicken salad I have planned for tonight's supper.

    Steve got a good sized cantaloupe at the farmer's market the other day.
    I think it was about 12" in diameter, a quarter of it would have made a
    good sized holder for chicken salad. However, it's cut up and in the
    fridge.


    Title: Dave's Chicken Salad
    Categories: Poultry, Herbs, Dairy, Citrus, Chilies
    Yield: 4 Servings

    Looks good but would leave out the cilantro, maybe add just a pinch to
    my serving. I don't usually do anything too fancy--a bit of onion and
    finely diced celery are the main "extras", anything else depends on
    what's in the fridge or what looks good from the spice cabinet. (Yes, I
    have a whole cabinet devoted to herbs and spices.)


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jul 3 05:09:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Sounds like you might have been better off with a van. But not the "on steroids" that Dodge and Ford are currently pushing. More like the old E-150 I used to tow my race cars with.

    We had a van at one time, a Chevy Lumina APV, actually kept it for 14 years. Bought when we were coming back to the States from Germany,
    donated it to charity when we left HI. Steve thought a truck would be better for stowing camping gear that didn't fit into the camper
    (carried in the back of the Escape prior to the accident) so found the Frontier at a Car Max outside of SLC.

    I was meaning a full-sized van. The Lumina was more a "soccer mom" sized
    item like the Plymout Voyager or the Ford Aerostar.

    8----- JUMP SHIFT ----->8

    Another use for chicken skin(s) ........

    Title: Schmaltz & Gribenes
    Categories: Five, Poultry, Vegetables
    Yield: 2 Cups

    They are good. (G)

    I've got a couple of good sized thighs marinading in a marinade I
    picked up from Wegman's, see how it compares to the recipe we usually
    do. They'll go on the grill for supper tonight, along with some steamed fresh from the farmer's market green beans and something else.

    I picked up a nice cantaloupe at Suttil'd Garden. It will become
    "bowls" for the chicken salad I have planned for tonight's supper.

    Steve got a good sized cantaloupe at the farmer's market the other day.
    I think it was about 12" in diameter, a quarter of it would have made a good sized holder for chicken salad. However, it's cut up and in the fridge.

    Title: Dave's Chicken Salad
    Categories: Poultry, Herbs, Dairy, Citrus, Chilies
    Yield: 4 Servings

    Looks good but would leave out the cilantro, maybe add just a pinch to
    my serving. I don't usually do anything too fancy--a bit of onion and finely diced celery are the main "extras", anything else depends on
    what's in the fridge or what looks good from the spice cabinet. (Yes, I have a whole cabinet devoted to herbs and spices.)

    I might add some coarde chopped pecans for extra crunch - ala ARBY'S.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Arby's Grilled Chicken & Pecan Salad
    Categories: Poultry, Fruits, Nuts, Citrus
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 c Diced red apple *
    1 tb Lemon juice
    2 1/2 c Grilled chicken breast;
    - diced 1/4"
    1 c Halved grapes
    1/2 c Chopped celery
    1 c Chopped pecans
    1/2 c (to 3/4 c) mayonnaise
    Salt & pepper
    Lettuce leaves; opt
    Thick-sliced wheat bread;
    - opt

    * I used a "Cosmic Crisp" apple which worked nicely.
    I have also used shredded rotissiere chicken. -- UDD

    Place the diced apples in a medium-sized bowl. Add one
    tablespoon of lemon juice and stir to coat the apples to
    prevent them from turning brown.

    Add the chicken, grapes, celery, and pecans to the bowl
    and mix well.

    Add 1/2 cup mayonnaise and stir to combine. If the
    mixture is too dry you can add another 1/4 cup of
    mayonnaise. Season with salt and pepper to taste.

    Allow the flavors to marry in a covered bowl in the
    refrigerator for about 1 hour before serving.

    If you would like to serve the chicken salad as a
    sandwich, place about 1 cup of chicken salad and a few
    lettuce leaves between two thick slices of wheat bread.

    NOTES: While Arby's does not toast their pecans, you
    could easily bring this salad to the next level by
    toasting the pecans in a skillet on medium-high heat
    until fragrant. Allow the pecans to cool completely
    before adding them to the salad.

    Author: Stephanie Manley

    RECIPE FROM: https://copykat.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jul 3 06:04:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Most of the venues around this area have the lunch menu available
    until 15:00. Which is good for me as I sometimes take a late lunch.

    That's as good as a late breakfast for those of us that don't like it
    at the crack of dawn.

    Nearly all of the breakfast & lunch places around here offer "breakfast
    all day". Sometimes and omelet or bacon 'n eggs make a nice lunch.

    my trousers aren't as tight as they used to be. A visit to my
    cardiologist told me that I've lost 35# in the past couple of
    moths - according to their scale. If this keeps up it could get

    Good going! I need to up my exercise factor and try to shed a few
    pounds.

    Working it retail I am on my feet and move abot a lot.

    expensive. There's a limit to how much pants can be "taken in."

    I know, I've both taken them in and let them out as a seamstress
    for hire. (G)

    I am not sempster (sempster (ess) found in: Thesaurus, Wikipedia.

    sempster (ess) also "s¨mpstr¨s" noun

    1. (Knitting & Sewing) a rare word for seamstress
    2. (Professions) a rare word for seamstress

    https://www.thefreedictionary.com/

    Picked that word up from a Robert Heinlein Sci-Fi novel.

    I picked up the term from Alison Weir/Philippa Gregory, both British authors writing a lot about the pre thru post Henry VIII era. Our older daughter got me interested in those books when I borrowed one of hers
    and she said "keep it". I've quite a number of them on my Nook.

    I've a couple from the days of King Chas the 1st on my Kindle.

    8<----- CUT ----->8

    I use the 6 quart one from time to time but it usually means a lot of
    left overs (unless I'm doing chili for a cook off, then it usually
    comes home empty or nearly so).

    Does your big crockpot have a locking lid? Mine doesn't and while I've used it to transport chilli (to work, to a gathering, etc.) I have to drive verrry carefully and not make any sudden moves lest I get chilli
    all over the floor/carpet in the Beemer.

    Yes, it has a locking lid; we make sure it's locked down before transporting and usually put it in a box, lined with towels as well. We also put a lightweight bungee cord over the top as extra insurance.

    Would that mine had the lock-down lid. I do all that you do including a
    "spider bungee" and carry the pot in the foot well od the passenger seat.
    Then I drive very gingerly to my destination. With (hopefully) no abrupt
    moves caused by drivers buried in their cell phones.

    8<----- You Know ----->8

    Here it is - paired with another of my least favourite foods - grits,
    aka wallboard spackle. You probably couldn't serve this to Steve since grits is, at root, corn that has has unconscionable things done to it.

    Title: Okra-Grits Recipe
    Categories: Vegan, Vegetables, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 999 Servings

    No, he's not that fond of grits anyway, but again, I like them. At one
    of our favorite seafood restaurants, my usual order is their shrimp and grits, half size portion so I have room for clam chowder or seafood
    bisque (just a cup) as well.

    I think my dislike for grits stems from my dislike for its parent -
    hominy. Hominy has a little flavour of its own and a texture/mouthfeel
    that puts me right off of it. Grits is about as appetising as the gravy
    they used to serve with school lunches in the 1950s. Almost as tasty
    as library paste. Bv)=

    Corn, from with they make hominy, now that's a different story.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Can Opener Corn Chowder
    Categories: Five, Vegetables, Chilies, Dairy
    Yield: 3 Servings

    16 oz Bag corn niblets
    21 1/2 oz (2 cans) cream of potato
    - soup; undiluted
    4 oz Can chopped green chilies
    1 Soup can milk
    Fresh ground pepper

    Open the soup and dump into your crockpot. Add the corn
    and milk and stir. Add the chilies and stir again.

    Set the cooker on low and let it do its thing for about
    four hours. Just before serving grind pepper (to taste)
    into the soup and give it another stir to combine.

    Ladle into bowls and dig in. Refrigerate leftovers (if
    any) and nuke back to life for supper the next day.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jul 3 13:52:17 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Sounds like you might have been better off with a van. But not the "on steroids" that Dodge and Ford are currently pushing. More like the old E-150 I used to tow my race cars with.

    We had a van at one time, a Chevy Lumina APV, actually kept it for 14 years. Bought when we were coming back to the States from Germany,
    donated it to charity when we left HI. Steve thought a truck would be better for stowing camping gear that didn't fit into the camper
    (carried in the back of the Escape prior to the accident) so found the Frontier at a Car Max outside of SLC.

    I was meaning a full-sized van. The Lumina was more a "soccer mom"
    sized item like the Plymout Voyager or the Ford Aerostar.

    It as good for hauling kids and lots of stuff (pre camper, tent camping)
    days. Nice thing about it was that all the seats (except driver's) were individually removable so we had more space for gear stowage. When we
    moved from Fort Devens to Fort Huachuca, we shipped the 2 rearmost seats
    with our pack out and filled that space with luggage and basic stuff for setting up temporary (2 months) housekeeping. But, now we like our
    trucks. (G)

    Steve got a good sized cantaloupe at the farmer's market the other day.
    I think it was about 12" in diameter, a quarter of it would have made a good sized holder for chicken salad. However, it's cut up and in the fridge.

    Title: Dave's Chicken Salad
    Categories: Poultry, Herbs, Dairy, Citrus, Chilies
    Yield: 4 Servings

    Looks good but would leave out the cilantro, maybe add just a pinch to
    my serving. I don't usually do anything too fancy--a bit of onion and finely diced celery are the main "extras", anything else depends on
    what's in the fridge or what looks good from the spice cabinet. (Yes, I have a whole cabinet devoted to herbs and spices.)

    I might add some coarde chopped pecans for extra crunch - ala ARBY'S.

    I like pecans in pie but not chicken salad. Tried a Torchy's Taco place yesterday--overpriced but had a couple of good tacos. Steve had an all American, know it had chicken and pineapple but not sure what else; I
    had a pork not quite carnitas taco with onion and pico de gaillo. Had a
    freebie appetiser of corn chips (and a wheat tortilla) plus their queso
    with guacamole and hot sauce dip since it was our first visit. That was
    good also. They're new to WF, as is CAVA, a Mediterranian place in the
    same plaza; we'll try them next.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jul 3 14:12:46 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Nearly all of the breakfast & lunch places around here offer
    "breakfast all day". Sometimes and omelet or bacon 'n eggs make a
    nice lunch.

    Or supper. My mom always used eggs, pancakes and such like as lunch or
    Sunday night supper foods, breakfast was always cereal--hot from
    September to late June, cold for the summer months.

    my trousers aren't as tight as they used to be. A visit to my
    cardiologist told me that I've lost 35# in the past couple of
    moths - according to their scale. If this keeps up it could get

    Good going! I need to up my exercise factor and try to shed a few
    pounds.

    Working it retail I am on my feet and move abot a lot.

    And I'm not.


    expensive. There's a limit to how much pants can be "taken in."

    I know, I've both taken them in and let them out as a seamstress
    for hire. (G)

    I am not sempster (sempster (ess) found in: Thesaurus, Wikipedia.

    sempster (ess) also "s¨mpstr¨s" noun

    1. (Knitting & Sewing) a rare word for seamstress
    2. (Professions) a rare word for seamstress

    https://www.thefreedictionary.com/

    Picked that word up from a Robert Heinlein Sci-Fi novel.

    I picked up the term from Alison Weir/Philippa Gregory, both British authors writing a lot about the pre thru post Henry VIII era. Our older daughter got me interested in those books when I borrowed one of hers
    and she said "keep it". I've quite a number of them on my Nook.

    I've a couple from the days of King Chas the 1st on my Kindle.

    Titles? Authors?

    Yes, it has a locking lid; we make sure it's locked down before transporting and usually put it in a box, lined with towels as well. We also put a lightweight bungee cord over the top as extra insurance.

    Would that mine had the lock-down lid. I do all that you do including
    a "spider bungee" and carry the pot in the foot well od the passenger seat. Then I drive very gingerly to my destination. With (hopefully)
    no abrupt moves caused by drivers buried in their cell phones.

    The box should help the mess to stay contained. We bought this crock pot
    some years ago when I wanted an oval pot. Got it half off with a nice
    Kohl's Cash coupon.(G)

    8<----- You Know ----->8

    Here it is - paired with another of my least favourite foods - grits,
    aka wallboard spackle. You probably couldn't serve this to Steve since grits is, at root, corn that has has unconscionable things done to it.

    Title: Okra-Grits Recipe
    Categories: Vegan, Vegetables, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 999 Servings

    No, he's not that fond of grits anyway, but again, I like them. At one
    of our favorite seafood restaurants, my usual order is their shrimp and grits, half size portion so I have room for clam chowder or seafood
    bisque (just a cup) as well.

    I think my dislike for grits stems from my dislike for its parent - hominy. Hominy has a little flavour of its own and a texture/mouthfeel that puts me right off of it. Grits is about as appetising as the
    gravy they used to serve with school lunches in the 1950s. Almost as
    tasty
    as library paste. Bv)=

    I like my grits mixed with scrambled eggs or lots of cheese, preferrably cheddar.


    Corn, from with they make hominy, now that's a different story.


    Title: Can Opener Corn Chowder
    Categories: Five, Vegetables, Chilies, Dairy
    Yield: 3 Servings

    Can't serve that here.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jul 5 06:54:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Sounds like you might have been better off with a van. But not the "on steroids" that Dodge and Ford are currently pushing. More like the old E-150 I used to tow my race cars with.

    We had a van at one time, a Chevy Lumina APV, actually kept it for 14 years. Bought when we were coming back to the States from Germany,
    donated it to charity when we left HI. Steve thought a truck would be better for stowing camping gear that didn't fit into the camper
    (carried in the back of the Escape prior to the accident) so found the Frontier at a Car Max outside of SLC.

    I was meaning a full-sized van. The Lumina was more a "soccer mom"
    sized item like the Plymout Voyager or the Ford Aerostar.

    It as good for hauling kids and lots of stuff (pre camper, tent
    camping) days. Nice thing about it was that all the seats (except driver's) were individually removable so we had more space for gear stowage. When we moved from Fort Devens to Fort Huachuca, we shipped
    the 2 rearmost seats with our pack out and filled that space with
    luggage and basic stuff for setting up temporary (2 months)
    housekeeping. But, now we like our trucks. (G)

    Needs, wants and desires change as we move through life.

    Steve got a good sized cantaloupe at the farmer's market the other day.
    I think it was about 12" in diameter, a quarter of it would have made a good sized holder for chicken salad. However, it's cut up and in the fridge.

    Title: Dave's Chicken Salad
    Categories: Poultry, Herbs, Dairy, Citrus, Chilies
    Yield: 4 Servings

    Looks good but would leave out the cilantro, maybe add just a pinch to
    my serving. I don't usually do anything too fancy--a bit of onion and finely diced celery are the main "extras", anything else depends on
    what's in the fridge or what looks good from the spice cabinet. (Yes, I have a whole cabinet devoted to herbs and spices.)

    I might add some coarse chopped pecans for extra crunch - ala ARBY'S.

    I like pecans in pie but not chicken salad. Tried a Torchy's Taco place yesterday--overpriced but had a couple of good tacos. Steve had an all American, know it had chicken and pineapple but not sure what else; I
    had a pork not quite carnitas taco with onion and pico de gaillo. Had a freebie appetiser of corn chips (and a wheat tortilla) plus their queso with guacamole and hot sauce dip since it was our first visit. That was good also. They're new to WF, as is CAVA, a Mediterranian place in the same plaza; we'll try them next.

    We just got an African place - "Rraveller's Kitchen" that replace La
    Bamba "Burritos as Big as Your Head". I'll have to give them a try and
    see what they mean by "African" That's a biiiiig continent. Bv)=

    I not fro their on-line Door Dash menu that they also offer Afro-Mex
    items and vegetarian stuff.

    https://www.doordash.com/store/travelers-kitchen-springfield-24903065/

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Jollof Rice
    Categories: Rice, Vegetables, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 9 servings

    MMMMM--------------------------OBE ATA-------------------------------
    14 oz Can whole peeled tomatoes
    - w/their juices
    1 md Red bell pepper; stemmed,
    - seeded, rough chopped
    1/2 md Red onion; peeled, rough
    - chopped
    4 cl Garlic; peeled
    1 (1") piece fresh ginger;
    - peeled, fine chopped
    1 Red habanero chile; stemmed
    2 tb Neutral oil

    MMMMM------------------------JOLLOF RICE-----------------------------
    1/2 c Neutral oil
    2 md Red onions; peeled, halved,
    - thin sliced
    4 cl Garlic; thin sliced
    1 tb Tomato paste
    1 ts Ground turmeric
    1/4 ts Smoked paprika (opt)
    3 c Parboiled long-grain,
    - basmati or jasmine rice
    5 Fresh thyme sprigs
    1 Fresh bay leaf
    Salt & fresh ground pepper
    2 c Beef, chicken or vegetable
    - stock

    PREPARE THE OBE ATA: Working in batches if needed,
    combine all the obe ata ingredients except the canola
    oil in a blender and puree on high until smooth. The
    liquid from the can of tomatoes should suffice, but you
    can add up to 1/4 cup of water if necessary to get the
    puree going. (You should have about 3 cups of puree.)

    Heat the 2 tablespoons oil in a medium saucepan over
    medium-high. Add the puree and bring to a simmer. Reduce
    heat to medium, cover and simmer until the sauce is
    slightly reduced by about a third of its original
    volume, 18 to 20 minutes. (It should make about 2 cups.
    Obe ata can be cooled and refrigerated for up to 2
    weeks, or frozen for up to 1 month.)

    PREPARE THE RICE: Set the oven @350oF/175oC.

    Heat the 1/2 cup oil in a large Dutch oven over medium
    until shimmering, about 1 minute. Add the onions and
    cook, stirring frequently, until softened, 6 to 8
    minutes. Remove half the onions to a plate and set
    aside. Add the garlic and saute until fragrant and
    translucent, about 2 minutes. Add the tomato paste,
    turmeric and smoked paprika, if using, and toast,
    stirring occasionally, until turmeric is fragrant and
    tomato paste has deepened to a dark red color, about 2
    minutes.

    Stir in the obe ata sauce and bring to a simmer over
    medium heat. The habanero oils love to disperse in the
    air, so you may want to turn on your stovetop fan or
    open a window while simmering the obe ata. Stir in the
    rice, thyme and bay leaf, and season with salt and
    pepper. Stir in the stock and cover with a lid. Transfer
    the pot to the oven and cook until rice is just tender,
    35 minutes.

    Remove the pot from the oven and let sit, covered (no
    peeking) for 15 minutes. Uncover, fluff the rice with a
    fork and stir in the reserved sauteed onions. Adjust
    seasoning, if necessary, and discard the thyme sprigs
    and bay leaf. Serve warm.

    by Yewande Komolafe

    Yield: 8 to 10 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jul 5 07:05:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Nearly all of the breakfast & lunch places around here offer
    "breakfast all day". Sometimes and omelet or bacon 'n eggs make a
    nice lunch.

    Or supper. My mom always used eggs, pancakes and such like as lunch or Sunday night supper foods, breakfast was always cereal--hot from
    September to late June, cold for the summer months.

    I enjoy breakfast for supper sometimes. One of my favourites is what I
    call a "pancake sandwich" 2 eggs, breakfast meat and 2 eggs - sandwiched bewtwwon 2 8" to 9" pancakes (or waffles). No taters needed.

    my trousers aren't as tight as they used to be. A visit to my
    cardiologist told me that I've lost 35# in the past couple of
    moths - according to their scale. If this keeps up it could get

    Good going! I need to up my exercise factor and try to shed a few
    pounds.

    Working it retail I am on my feet and move about a lot.

    And I'm not.

    8<----- SHIFT ----->8

    I've a couple from the days of King Chas the 1st on my Kindle.

    Titles? Authors?

    "A King Ensnared: A Historical Novel of Scotland" by J. R. Tomlin

    "The Good Knight (The Gareth & Gwen Medieval Mysteries Book 1)" by
    Sarah Woodbury

    And not so medieval but good reading nonetheless ...

    The Northminster Mysteries Box Set 1: Books 1-3 by Harriet Smart

    8<----- You Know ----->8

    Here it is - paired with another of my least favourite foods - grits,
    aka wallboard spackle. You probably couldn't serve this to Steve since grits is, at root, corn that has has unconscionable things done to it.

    Title: Okra-Grits Recipe
    Categories: Vegan, Vegetables, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 999 Servings

    No, he's not that fond of grits anyway, but again, I like them. At one
    of our favorite seafood restaurants, my usual order is their shrimp and grits, half size portion so I have room for clam chowder or seafood
    bisque (just a cup) as well.

    I think my dislike for grits stems from my dislike for its parent - hominy. Hominy has a little flavour of its own and a texture/mouthfeel that puts me right off of it. Grits is about as appetising as the
    gravy they used to serve with school lunches in the 1950s. Almost as
    tasty as library paste. Bv)=

    I like my grits mixed with scrambled eggs or lots of cheese,
    preferrably cheddar.

    Anything to mask the taste/texture. <VBEG>

    Corn, from with they make hominy, now that's a different story.

    Title: Can Opener Corn Chowder
    Categories: Five, Vegetables, Chilies, Dairy
    Yield: 3 Servings

    Can't serve that here.

    I know. At least not to Steve. But it's easy and very good. Is there no antidote for his allergy. My mom was allergic to both strawberries and
    bananas - which she really liked. A 50mg Benadryl capsule solved her
    problem. I'm allergic to bananas and cannibanoids. I don't like 'nanners
    anyway and the marijuana allergy got me out of the 60s pretty well whole.
    Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Elvis Presley's Fried Peanut Butter & Banana Sandwich
    Categories: Five, Sandwiches, Nuts, Fruits, Breads
    Yield: 1 Sammich

    1 sm Ripe banana
    2 sl White bread
    3 tb Peanut butter
    2 tb Butter

    In a small bowl, mash to banana with the back of a
    spoon. Toast the bread lightly. Spread the peanut
    butter on one slice of toast and the mashed banana
    on the other. Fry the sandwich in melted butter until
    each side is golden brown.

    Cut diagonally and serve hot.

    NOTE: Elvis loved his "peanut butter and nanner"
    sammiches. At a hefty 36 g rams of fat, they probably
    helped do him in.

    Recipe By: Are You Hungry Tonight: Elvis' Favorite Recipes

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to DAVE DRUM on Sat Jul 6 07:55:00 2024
    Quoting Dave Drum to Ruth Haffly <=-

    We just got an African place - "Rraveller's Kitchen" that replace La
    Bamba "Burritos as Big as Your Head". I'll have to give them a try and
    see what they mean by "African" That's a biiiiig continent. Bv)=

    A co worker is from the Congo (or just congo?) so that's what we tend to
    order when someone wants "African". When we have to pick something up
    from head office next time we're going to pop into his mother's house for
    some home cooking. :) (I keep trying to arrange a trip when we're both on
    the same shift)


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Jul 5 13:57:03 2024
    Hi Dave,

    I was meaning a full-sized van. The Lumina was more a "soccer mom"
    sized item like the Plymout Voyager or the Ford Aerostar.

    It as good for hauling kids and lots of stuff (pre camper, tent
    camping) days. Nice thing about it was that all the seats (except driver's) were individually removable so we had more space for gear stowage. When we moved from Fort Devens to Fort Huachuca, we shipped

    Needs, wants and desires change as we move through life.

    Yes, and as long as we have the camper, we're going to stay with a
    truck. Don't know what we'll eventually wind up with but it won't be one
    of these tiny little things that have you sitting 6" above the road with
    your knees up to your chin.



    I might add some coarse chopped pecans for extra crunch - ala ARBY'S.

    I like pecans in pie but not chicken salad. Tried a Torchy's Taco place yesterday--overpriced but had a couple of good tacos. Steve had an all American, know it had chicken and pineapple but not sure what else; I
    had a pork not quite carnitas taco with onion and pico de gaillo. Had a freebie appetiser of corn chips (and a wheat tortilla) plus their queso with guacamole and hot sauce dip since it was our first visit. That was good also. They're new to WF, as is CAVA, a Mediterranian place in the same plaza; we'll try them next.

    We just got an African place - "Rraveller's Kitchen" that replace La
    Bamba "Burritos as Big as Your Head". I'll have to give them a try and
    see what they mean by "African" That's a biiiiig continent. Bv)=

    I not fro their on-line Door Dash menu that they also offer Afro-Mex
    items and vegetarian stuff.

    You will have to try them and give us a report. A new local chain opened
    a branch in WF recently so we got some take out for lunch the other day.
    Alpaca is Peruvian based, charcoal grilled chicken. We'd had some at one
    of their other locations so knew what we were getting. We split half a
    chicken, an order of maduroes (fried plantains) and a tossed salad. I've
    a feeling we'll be going back there on a sorta regular basis.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Jul 5 14:27:00 2024
    Hi Dave,

    "breakfast all day". Sometimes and omelet or bacon 'n eggs make a
    nice lunch.

    Or supper. My mom always used eggs, pancakes and such like as lunch or Sunday night supper foods, breakfast was always cereal--hot from
    September to late June, cold for the summer months.

    I enjoy breakfast for supper sometimes. One of my favourites is what I call a "pancake sandwich" 2 eggs, breakfast meat and 2 eggs -
    sandwiched bewtwwon 2 8" to 9" pancakes (or waffles). No taters
    needed.

    Two eggs, breakfast meat and a slice of toast is usually enough for me. Sometimes I'll add the grits, most often when eating out but then I'll
    probably skip the toast.


    8<----- SHIFT ----->8

    I've a couple from the days of King Chas the 1st on my Kindle.

    Titles? Authors?

    "A King Ensnared: A Historical Novel of Scotland" by J. R. Tomlin

    "The Good Knight (The Gareth & Gwen Medieval Mysteries Book 1)" by
    Sarah Woodbury

    And not so medieval but good reading nonetheless ...

    The Northminster Mysteries Box Set 1: Books 1-3 by Harriet Smart

    OK, thanks. I'll probably look up the first one as I'm not into
    mysteries.

    I like my grits mixed with scrambled eggs or lots of cheese,
    preferrably cheddar.

    Anything to mask the taste/texture. <VBEG>

    That's how I was introduced to them, decades ago.

    Title: Can Opener Corn Chowder
    Categories: Five, Vegetables, Chilies, Dairy
    Yield: 3 Servings

    Can't serve that here.

    I know. At least not to Steve. But it's easy and very good. Is there
    no antidote for his allergy. My mom was allergic to both strawberries
    and
    bananas - which she really liked. A 50mg Benadryl capsule solved her problem. I'm allergic to bananas and cannibanoids. I don't like
    'nanners anyway and the marijuana allergy got me out of the 60s pretty well whole. Bv)=

    No antidote that we know of so avoidance is best. Migraine headaches are
    not fun so if he can avoid corn, he can avoid a headache. Just like I
    avoided a major asthma attack last night by avoiding fireworks. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Shawn Highfield on Sun Jul 7 06:31:59 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    Quoting Dave Drum to Ruth Haffly <=-

    We just got an African place - "Traveller's Kitchen" that replace La
    Bamba "Burritos as Big as Your Head". I'll have to give them a try and
    see what they mean by "African" That's a biiiiig continent. Bv)=

    A co worker is from the Congo (or just congo?) so that's what we tend
    to order when someone wants "African". When we have to pick something
    up from head office next time we're going to pop into his mother's
    house for some home cooking. :) (I keep trying to arrange a trip when we're both on the same shift)

    We had a guy at the Zone from what used to was French Equatorial Africa,
    The local University recruited him for their soccer team. Got caught
    stealing car parts from the store and wound up being deported back to
    Chad.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: African Style Broccoli
    Categories: Vegetables, Herbs, Dairy, Nuts
    Yield: 6 servings

    4 1/2 c Small broccoli florets
    2 1/2 c Small cauliflower florets
    1 1/2 c Carrots; in 1/4" diagonal
    - slices
    1 tb Canola oil
    1 ts Salt; to taste
    1 ts Ground ginger
    1 ts Ground cumin
    1/2 ts Ground coriander
    1/2 ts Fresh ground nutmeg
    1/2 ts Crushed red pepper flakes;
    - more to taste
    1 c Sour cream
    2 tb Cider vinegar
    1 tb Mild honey; more to taste
    1/2 c Thin sliced green onions
    1/2 c Toasted pine nuts
    +=OR=+
    1/2 c Coarse chopped toasted
    - peanuts

    Steam first 3 ingredients, covered, 2 minutes. Rinse
    broccoli mixture under cold water; drain well.

    Combine oil, salt and next 5 ingredients (salt through
    crushed red pepper) in a small skillet; cook over medium
    heat 2 minutes or until lightly browned, stirring
    constantly.

    Combine spice mixture, sour cream, vinegar, and honey in
    a bowl; whisk well. Add to broccoli mixture; toss well
    to coat. Stir in green onions just before serving, and
    sprinkle with nuts.

    RECIPE FROM: https://champsdiet.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Jul 7 07:43:18 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I was meaning a full-sized van. The Lumina was more a "soccer mom"
    sized item like the Plymout Voyager or the Ford Aerostar.

    It as good for hauling kids and lots of stuff (pre camper, tent
    camping) days. Nice thing about it was that all the seats (except driver's) were individually removable so we had more space for gear stowage. When we moved from Fort Devens to Fort Huachuca, we shipped

    Needs, wants and desires change as we move through life.

    Yes, and as long as we have the camper, we're going to stay with a
    truck. Don't know what we'll eventually wind up with but it won't be
    one of these tiny little things that have you sitting 6" above the
    road with your knees up to your chin.

    I borrowd a friend's Smart (for Two) car once to make a grocery run for
    stuff that had run ot during a gathering. His was on the outise layer
    of the parked cars/trucks and mine was in the middle. The little churn
    was tiny on the outside but amazingly roomy on the inside. Then I recalled
    Dave Sacerdote telling of his daughter and her girlfriend taking a Smart
    car from En field, CT to Florida for spring break.

    These days I choose my rides for ease of entry and exit. No more sports
    cars or jacked-up pick-ups. And even the mid-sized pick-ups like Ranger
    and Colorado are too high for me to get in easily. Your Frontier was my
    idea of the ideal size.

    8<----- NICK ----->8

    We just got an African place - "Rraveller's Kitchen" that replace La
    Bamba "Burritos as Big as Your Head". I'll have to give them a try and
    see what they mean by "African" That's a biiiiig continent. Bv)=

    I note from their on-line Door Dash menu that they also offer Afro-Mex items and vegetarian stuff.

    You will have to try them and give us a report. A new local chain
    opened a branch in WF recently so we got some take out for lunch the
    other day. Alpaca is Peruvian based, charcoal grilled chicken. We'd had some at one of their other locations so knew what we were getting. We split half a chicken, an order of maduroes (fried plantains) and a
    tossed salad. I've a feeling we'll be going back there on a sorta
    regular basis.

    It will be interesting. At that very address I used to work on a weekly
    all sports newpaper (Sports Spotlight) and learned the printing trade.
    I had just returned home from 5 years in California. Lived in a tiny 2
    bedroom shack behind the shop. 2 (tiny) bedrooms, kitchen (even smaller
    than my current), common area. And the WC was, literally, in a closet.

    After we moved the print shop and I shifted house to something more
    liveable the building was razed and a Lee's Famous chicken joint was
    built there. When Lee's shrank back to southern Indiana/northern
    Kentuck the build was vacant for a long time until La Bamba happened
    along.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cass Abrahams' Bobotie
    Categories: Beef, Breads, Herbs, Dairy, Fruits
    Yield: 7 Servings

    2 sl (thick) stale white bread
    300 ml Water
    15 ml (1 tb) oil
    50 ml (4 tb) butter
    2 lg Onions; chopped
    800 g (1 3/4 lb) beef mince
    3 cl Garlic; crushed
    15 ml (1 tb) Masala
    5 ml (1ts) turmeric
    10 ml (2 ts) ground cumin
    10 ml (2 ts) ground coriander
    3 Cloves
    2 ml (1/2 ts) peppercorns
    5 Allspice berries
    125 ml (1/2 c) sultanas
    - (white/golden raisins)
    60 ml (1/4 c) flaked almonds
    5 ml (1 ts) dried mixed herbs
    25 ml (2 tb) chutney
    Salt & fresh ground pepper
    6 (To 8) lemon leaves
    250 ml (1 c) milk
    2 lg Eggs; beaten

    Soak bread in water. Fry onions in oil and butter until
    just transparent. Place all other ingredients except
    bread, lemon leaves, milk and egg in a large bowl and
    mix. Add fried onions in oil to mixture. Squeeze water
    from bread, add bread to meat and mix well. Spread in a
    greased ovenproof dish. Roll lemon leaves into spikes
    and insert into the mixture. Bake at 180ºC/350ºF for 30
    minutes. Lightly beat eggs and milk together and pour
    over meat. Bake until egg mixture has set. Serve with
    yellow rice ant blatjang.

    Cass Abrahams Cooks Cape Malay: Food from Africa

    Serves 6-8

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.thesouthafrican.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Jul 7 08:31:14 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    "breakfast all day". Sometimes and omelet or bacon 'n eggs make a
    nice lunch.

    Or supper. My mom always used eggs, pancakes and such like as lunch or Sunday night supper foods, breakfast was always cereal--hot from
    September to late June, cold for the summer months.

    I enjoy breakfast for supper sometimes. One of my favourites is what I call a "pancake sandwich" 2 eggs, breakfast meat and 2 eggs -
    sandwiched bewtwwon 2 8" to 9" pancakes (or waffles). No taters
    needed.

    Two eggs, breakfast meat and a slice of toast is usually enough for me. Sometimes I'll add the grits, most often when eating out but then I'll probably skip the toast.

    I eat a "hearty" breakfast (not too hearty) and that carries me (usually)
    to a late luch/early supper. Gone are the days of three meals (and snax)
    Which my be why my latest visit to the croakers had me weighing in down
    more than 25 pounds.

    8<----- SHIFT ----->8

    I've a couple from the days of King Chas the 1st on my Kindle.

    Titles? Authors?

    "A King Ensnared: A Historical Novel of Scotland" by J. R. Tomlin

    "The Good Knight (The Gareth & Gwen Medieval Mysteries Book 1)" by
    Sarah Woodbury

    And not so medieval but good reading nonetheless ...

    The Northminster Mysteries Box Set 1: Books 1-3 by Harriet Smart

    OK, thanks. I'll probably look up the first one as I'm not into
    mysteries.

    I, OTOH, enjoy trying to solce the mystery before the author reveals
    whare s/he was going with the tale. Bv)=

    I like my grits mixed with scrambled eggs or lots of cheese,
    preferrably cheddar.

    Anything to mask the taste/texture. <VBEG>

    That's how I was introduced to them, decades ago.

    Title: Can Opener Corn Chowder
    Categories: Five, Vegetables, Chilies, Dairy
    Yield: 3 Servings

    Can't serve that here.

    I know. At least not to Steve. But it's easy and very good. Is there
    no antidote for his allergy. My mom was allergic to both strawberries
    and bananas - which she really liked. A 50mg Benadryl capsule solved
    her problem. I'm allergic to bananas and cannibanoids. I don't like 'nanners anyway and the marijuana allergy got me out of the 60s pretty well whole. Bv)=

    No antidote that we know of so avoidance is best. Migraine headaches
    are not fun so if he can avoid corn, he can avoid a headache. Just like
    I avoided a major asthma attack last night by avoiding fireworks. (G)

    I've not been to a live fireworks show in decades. But I have a neighbour
    who seems enchanted with lighting off skyrockets and aerial bombd. He was
    at when I turnd in on July 3 and still at it when I got up at 04:00 on
    the 4th. And a a reduced rate up through last night. Sheesh.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Alabama Fire Crackers
    Categories: Breads, Chilies, Herbs
    Yield: 84 servings

    1 oz Env dry ranch dressing mix
    1 tb Crushed red pepper
    1/2 ts Garlic powder
    1/2 ts Onion powder
    1/4 ts Black pepper
    3/4 c Oil
    2 Sleeves saltine crackers

    In a 2 gallon resealable plastic bag, combine dressing
    mix, red pepper, garlic powder, onion powder, and black
    pepper; mix well. Add oil and mix well.

    Place crackers in bag, seal, and gently turn bag over
    several times until crackers are evenly coated, being
    careful not to break up crackers. Allow to sit about 1
    hour before gently turning again. Let bag sit overnight.
    Store crackers in bag or an airtight container until
    ready to serve.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.mrfood.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Jul 7 15:47:09 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Needs, wants and desires change as we move through life.

    Yes, and as long as we have the camper, we're going to stay with a
    truck. Don't know what we'll eventually wind up with but it won't be
    one of these tiny little things that have you sitting 6" above the
    road with your knees up to your chin.

    I borrowd a friend's Smart (for Two) car once to make a grocery run
    for stuff that had run ot during a gathering. His was on the outise
    layer
    of the parked cars/trucks and mine was in the middle. The little churn
    was tiny on the outside but amazingly roomy on the inside. Then I
    recalled Dave Sacerdote telling of his daughter and her girlfriend
    taking a Smart car from En field, CT to Florida for spring break.

    IIRC, they brought it to the 2007 picnic at the Shipp's. That's the
    first one we were able to attend and got to put a lot of faces with
    names. Michael made some melt in your mouth crab cakes for that one; I
    know I brought an assortment of home made jams and did a peach cobbler
    but don't remember any other dishes.


    These days I choose my rides for ease of entry and exit. No more
    sports cars or jacked-up pick-ups. And even the mid-sized pick-ups
    like Ranger and Colorado are too high for me to get in easily. Your Frontier was my idea of the ideal size.

    The F-150 has a handy handle on the door frame; I always take a step
    onto the running board, grab the handle and swing myself in. Also make
    sure the door is only about halfway open, makes it easier to grab to
    close.

    8<----- NICK ----->8

    We just got an African place - "Rraveller's Kitchen" that replace La
    Bamba "Burritos as Big as Your Head". I'll have to give them a try and
    see what they mean by "African" That's a biiiiig continent. Bv)=

    I note from their on-line Door Dash menu that they also offer Afro-Mex items and vegetarian stuff.

    You will have to try them and give us a report. A new local chain
    opened a branch in WF recently so we got some take out for lunch the
    other day. Alpaca is Peruvian based, charcoal grilled chicken. We'd had some at one of their other locations so knew what we were getting. We split half a chicken, an order of maduroes (fried plantains) and a
    tossed salad. I've a feeling we'll be going back there on a sorta
    regular basis.

    It will be interesting. At that very address I used to work on a
    weekly all sports newpaper (Sports Spotlight) and learned the printing trade.
    I had just returned home from 5 years in California. Lived in a tiny 2 bedroom shack behind the shop. 2 (tiny) bedrooms, kitchen (even
    smaller than my current), common area. And the WC was, literally, in a closet.

    After we moved the print shop and I shifted house to something more liveable the building was razed and a Lee's Famous chicken joint was
    built there. When Lee's shrank back to southern Indiana/northern
    Kentuck the build was vacant for a long time until La Bamba happened along.

    Some spots never do seem to hold a business long. There's one location
    here in WF that has probably had at least 5 different restaurants,
    besides long times of sitting empty, in the 15 years we've been here.
    Nothing seems to last more than 6 months in that location.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Jul 7 16:09:19 2024
    Hi Dave,

    I enjoy breakfast for supper sometimes. One of my favourites is what I call a "pancake sandwich" 2 eggs, breakfast meat and 2 eggs -
    sandwiched bewtwwon 2 8" to 9" pancakes (or waffles). No taters
    needed.

    Two eggs, breakfast meat and a slice of toast is usually enough for me. Sometimes I'll add the grits, most often when eating out but then I'll probably skip the toast.

    I eat a "hearty" breakfast (not too hearty) and that carries me
    (usually) to a late luch/early supper. Gone are the days of three
    meals (and snax) Which my be why my latest visit to the croakers had
    me weighing in down more than 25 pounds.

    8<----- SHIFT ----->8

    I've a couple from the days of King Chas the 1st on my Kindle.

    Titles? Authors?

    "A King Ensnared: A Historical Novel of Scotland" by J. R. Tomlin

    "The Good Knight (The Gareth & Gwen Medieval Mysteries Book 1)" by
    Sarah Woodbury

    And not so medieval but good reading nonetheless ...

    The Northminster Mysteries Box Set 1: Books 1-3 by Harriet Smart

    OK, thanks. I'll probably look up the first one as I'm not into
    mysteries.

    I, OTOH, enjoy trying to solce the mystery before the author reveals
    whare s/he was going with the tale. Bv)=

    I like my grits mixed with scrambled eggs or lots of cheese,
    preferrably cheddar.

    Anything to mask the taste/texture. <VBEG>

    That's how I was introduced to them, decades ago.

    Title: Can Opener Corn Chowder
    Categories: Five, Vegetables, Chilies, Dairy
    Yield: 3 Servings

    Can't serve that here.

    I know. At least not to Steve. But it's easy and very good. Is there
    no antidote for his allergy. My mom was allergic to both strawberries
    and bananas - which she really liked. A 50mg Benadryl capsule solved
    her problem. I'm allergic to bananas and cannibanoids. I don't like 'nanners anyway and the marijuana allergy got me out of the 60s pretty well whole. Bv)=

    No antidote that we know of so avoidance is best. Migraine headaches
    are not fun so if he can avoid corn, he can avoid a headache. Just like
    I avoided a major asthma attack last night by avoiding fireworks. (G)

    I've not been to a live fireworks show in decades. But I have a
    neighbour who seems enchanted with lighting off skyrockets and aerial bombd. He was at when I turnd in on July 3 and still at it when I got
    up at 04:00 on
    the 4th. And a a reduced rate up through last night. Sheesh.

    Raleigh had issues with their show--thought we were going to watch it on
    TV but they first announced a rain out, then shot off an abbreviated
    show, non televised.


    Title: Alabama Fire Crackers
    Categories: Breads, Chilies, Herbs
    Yield: 84 servings

    1 oz Env dry ranch dressing mix
    1 tb Crushed red pepper
    1/2 ts Garlic powder
    1/2 ts Onion powder
    1/4 ts Black pepper
    3/4 c Oil
    2 Sleeves saltine crackers

    Definatly some hot crackers there--got some milk handy?

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jul 9 15:09:53 2024
    Re: Towing the Line was: Chick'n
    By: Ruth Haffly to Dave Drum on Sun Jul 07 2024 03:47 pm


    Getting into F150. I know the feeling but you are taller than me! For my Rogue, There's a handle above the door but I use the steering wheel to 'hop up'.

    Well chimney guy came and not terribly unexpected is a chimney job. Now we get annual cleaning with 'A Step in Time'. Fireplaces are great but they do cost a little to maintain. Our last bill was in 2007 and primarily due to the nasty renters while we were in Japan. Got back just in time to not have it fall off!

    ok, fequent customer since 1995 (except in Japan) to current racks up custmer loyalty of 20% off plus Military of 10%= 30% off. The tech was gobsmacked at that long of a history! 1,300$ is an excellent price for all the work they need to do. Should have been 2,000+.

    Ouch but not bad. I decided it's time to start some disbursements though. Now the little Trowe price IRA Whick builds 309$ every quarter is getting trimmed by 100$ a month. 10$ to Fed tax a month. 8 months from now, I'll srart pulling Social Security with Medicare part B kicking in as soon as I hit 65. Haven't touched other IRA or my TSP yet or any CDs.

    Life goes on!
    xxcarol
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jul 9 06:40:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    IIRC, they brought it to the 2007 picnic at the Shipp's. That's the
    first one we were able to attend and got to put a lot of faces with
    names. Michael made some melt in your mouth crab cakes for that one; I know I brought an assortment of home made jams and did a peach cobbler
    but don't remember any other dishes.

    I really miss MLoo.

    These days I choose my rides for ease of entry and exit. No more
    sports cars or jacked-up pick-ups. And even the mid-sized pick-ups
    like Ranger and Colorado are too high for me to get in easily. Your Frontier was my idea of the ideal size.

    The F-150 has a handy handle on the door frame; I always take a step
    onto the running board, grab the handle and swing myself in. Also make sure the door is only about halfway open, makes it easier to grab to close.

    That handle is often referred to as the S.O.B. bar or G.D.it handle.
    Nearly all pickups and many S.U.V.s have them - either on the door
    post or attached to the roof portion above the door. I use the on in
    my brother's GMC Envoy regularly. And I know exactly what you mean
    about opening the door only to the first detent.

    8<----- NICK ----->8

    We just got an African place - "Rraveller's Kitchen" that replace La
    Bamba "Burritos as Big as Your Head". I'll have to give them a try and
    see what they mean by "African" That's a biiiiig continent. Bv)=

    I note from their on-line Door Dash menu that they also offer Afro-Mex items and vegetarian stuff.

    You will have to try them and give us a report. A new local chain
    opened a branch in WF recently so we got some take out for lunch the
    other day. Alpaca is Peruvian based, charcoal grilled chicken. We'd had some at one of their other locations so knew what we were getting. We split half a chicken, an order of maduroes (fried plantains) and a
    tossed salad. I've a feeling we'll be going back there on a sorta
    regular basis.

    I'd leave the plantains alone unless someone who knows can assure me
    that they won't break me out in hives the way their look-alike the
    banana does.

    It will be interesting. At that very address I used to work on a
    weekly all sports newspaper (Sports Spotlight) and learned the
    printing trade.

    I had just returned home from 5 years in California. Lived in a tiny
    2 bedroom shack behind the shop. 2 (tiny) bedrooms, kitchen (even
    smaller than my current), common area. And the WC was, literally, in
    x closet.

    After we moved the print shop and I shifted house to something more liveable the building was razed and a Lee's Famous chicken joint was
    built there. When Lee's shrank back to southern Indiana/northern
    Kentuck the build was vacant for a long time until La Bamba happened along.

    Some spots never do seem to hold a business long. There's one location here in WF that has probably had at least 5 different restaurants,
    besides long times of sitting empty, in the 15 years we've been here. Nothing seems to last more than 6 months in that location.

    Lee's Famous was there for several years - as was LaBamba Burritos. But
    we have other locations which have been sampled briefly as restaurant locations. One place near my work had a Bellacino's Grinders & Pizza
    shop there for eight years until the franchisee sold out and retired.
    The new owners were totally clewless and soon had run the business into bankruptcy. Then there was a string of pizza joints - some w/alcohol
    and some dry. None laasted long. Currently that location is shuttered.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Classic Italian Grinder Sandwich
    Categories: Breads, Pork, Beef, Cheese, Vegetables
    Yield: 1 sandwich

    1 lg Italian roll or hoagie bun
    1/4 lb Sliced deli ham
    1/4 lb Sliced Genoa salami
    1/4 lb Sliced pepperoni
    1/4 lb Sliced provolone cheese
    1/4 c Shredded lettuce
    1/4 c Sliced tomatoes
    1/4 c Sliced onions
    1/4 c Sliced banana peppers or
    - pepperoncini
    2 tb Italian dressing or olive oil
    1 ts Dried oregano
    Salt & pepper
    Mayonnaise, mustard, or add'l
    - Italian herbs; optional

    PREPARE THE BREAD: Slice the Italian roll or hoagie bun
    lengthwise, being careful not to cut all the way
    through, so it hinges open.

    LAYER ON THE VEGGIES: Start by layering the shredded
    lettuce, sliced tomatoes, onions, and pickled peppers on
    the bottom half of the roll.

    ADD THE MEAT & CHEESE: On top of the veggies, add the
    sliced ham, salami, pepperoni, and provolone cheese.

    SEASON & DRESS: Drizzle Italian dressing or olive oil
    over the top of the meat, cheese, and veggies. Sprinkle
    with dried oregano, salt, and pepper. Add any additional
    condiments like mayonnaise or mustard if desired.

    CLOSE AND SERVE: Gently press the top half of the roll
    down over the fillings. Cut the sandwich in half if
    desired.

    Enjoy!

    SERVES: One or two

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.heresyourdinner.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Wed Jul 10 13:22:56 2024
    Hi Carol,


    Getting into F150. I know the feeling but you are taller than me!
    For my Rogue, There's a handle above the door but I use the steering
    wheel to 'hop up'.

    Whatever works, we use. (G)

    Well chimney guy came and not terribly unexpected is a chimney job.
    Now we get annual cleaning with 'A Step in Time'. Fireplaces are
    great but they do cost a little to maintain. Our last bill was in
    2007 and primarily due to the nasty renters while we were in Japan.
    Got back just in time to not have it fall off!

    We probably had this one cleaned when we moved in, but not since.
    Because it's gas and we don't use it that often, I'm not concerned but
    if we burned wood on a regular basis, we'd hire a cleaner or DIY.


    ok, fequent customer since 1995 (except in Japan) to current racks up custmer loyalty of 20% off plus Military of 10%= 30% off. The tech
    was gobsmacked at that long of a history! 1,300$ is an excellent
    price for all the work they need to do. Should have been 2,000+.

    Good deal. I don't recall my parents having there's done, presume my
    younger brother did it when he was in the business. Still, that was 20
    yearsof use before he went in, probably 20+ years since he quit. He's
    living in the house now, using the fireplace for a lot of his heating so
    I hope he keeps it well maintained. My dad built the house, made the
    mistake of putting the furnace thermostat on the wall opposite the
    fireplace. Whenever he had a fire (and it was only in the winter), the
    rest of the house was cold, just the living room was comfortable.

    Ouch but not bad. I decided it's time to start some disbursements though. Now the little Trowe price IRA Whick builds 309$ every
    quarter CS> is getting trimmed by 100$ a month. 10$ to Fed tax a
    month. 8 months CS> from now, I'll srart pulling Social Security with
    Medicare part B CS> kicking in as soon as I hit 65. Haven't touched
    other IRA or my TSP CS> yet or any CDs.

    We closed out an IRA to buy the R-Pod, haven't touched any other
    retirement accounts since. Bought the R-Pod after looking at a couple of
    other campers because we liked the kitchen layout. It had more counter
    top work space than the camper we have now but had just a 2 burner stove
    and a microwave/convection oven.


    Life goes on!


    ......and on and on and on..........until you get to the end. (G)


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jul 10 16:18:27 2024
    Hi Dave,

    IIRC, they brought it to the 2007 picnic at the Shipp's. That's the
    first one we were able to attend and got to put a lot of faces with
    names. Michael made some melt in your mouth crab cakes for that one; I know I brought an assortment of home made jams and did a peach cobbler
    but don't remember any other dishes.

    I really miss MLoo.

    So do I, as well as Nancy Backus. Since she lived in Rochester, we'd
    visit her and Richard when we'd go to visit Steve's family. They were
    the ones that introduced us to Taste Of Japan, the sushi place we enjoy
    up there.

    The F-150 has a handy handle on the door frame; I always take a step
    onto the running board, grab the handle and swing myself in. Also make sure the door is only about halfway open, makes it easier to grab to close.

    That handle is often referred to as the S.O.B. bar or G.D.it handle. Nearly all pickups and many S.U.V.s have them - either on the door
    post or attached to the roof portion above the door. I use the on in
    my brother's GMC Envoy regularly. And I know exactly what you mean
    about opening the door only to the first detent.

    So much easier...........of course I have to make sure whatever I'm
    carrying is put either on the dashboard or floor or passed over to
    Steve. (G)

    8<----- NICK ----->8

    We just got an African place - "Rraveller's Kitchen" that replace La
    Bamba "Burritos as Big as Your Head". I'll have to give them a try and
    see what they mean by "African" That's a biiiiig continent. Bv)=

    I note from their on-line Door Dash menu that they also offer Afro-Mex items and vegetarian stuff.

    You will have to try them and give us a report. A new local chain
    opened a branch in WF recently so we got some take out for lunch the
    other day. Alpaca is Peruvian based, charcoal grilled chicken. We'd had some at one of their other locations so knew what we were getting. We split half a chicken, an order of maduroes (fried plantains) and a
    tossed salad. I've a feeling we'll be going back there on a sorta
    regular basis.

    I'd leave the plantains alone unless someone who knows can assure me
    that they won't break me out in hives the way their look-alike the
    banana does.

    I understand that, no fun to eat something and get hives (or worse).

    Some spots never do seem to hold a business long. There's one location here in WF that has probably had at least 5 different restaurants,
    besides long times of sitting empty, in the 15 years we've been here. Nothing seems to last more than 6 months in that location.

    Lee's Famous was there for several years - as was LaBamba Burritos.
    But we have other locations which have been sampled briefly as
    restaurant
    locations. One place near my work had a Bellacino's Grinders & Pizza
    shop there for eight years until the franchisee sold out and retired.
    The new owners were totally clewless and soon had run the business
    into bankruptcy. Then there was a string of pizza joints - some
    w/alcohol
    and some dry. None laasted long. Currently that location is shuttered.

    Waiting for something else to come along and give it a try.

    BTW, B&N stopped supporting my Nook so I couldn't do anything but read
    what was on there so we got a newer edition today. Also stopped at World Market, got some scone mixes and a mochi (rice cake) mix.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jul 11 17:55:43 2024
    Re: Towing the Line was: Chick'n
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Wed Jul 10 2024 01:22 pm

    Hi Carol,


    Getting into F150. I know the feeling but you are taller than me!
    For my Rogue, There's a handle above the door but I use the steering wheel to 'hop up'.

    Whatever works, we use. (G)

    Well chimney guy came and not terribly unexpected is a chimney job.
    Now we get annual cleaning with 'A Step in Time'. Fireplaces are
    great but they do cost a little to maintain. Our last bill was in
    2007 and primarily due to the nasty renters while we were in Japan.
    Got back just in time to not have it fall off!

    We probably had this one cleaned when we moved in, but not since.
    Because it's gas and we don't use it that often, I'm not concerned but
    if we burned wood on a regular basis, we'd hire a cleaner or DIY.


    ok, fequent customer since 1995 (except in Japan) to current racks up custmer loyalty of 20% off plus Military of 10%= 30% off. The tech
    was gobsmacked at that long of a history! 1,300$ is an excellent
    price for all the work they need to do. Should have been 2,000+.

    Good deal. I don't recall my parents having there's done, presume my
    younger brother did it when he was in the business. Still, that was 20 yearsof use before he went in, probably 20+ years since he quit. He's
    living in the house now, using the fireplace for a lot of his heating so
    I hope he keeps it well maintained. My dad built the house, made the
    mistake of putting the furnace thermostat on the wall opposite the fireplace. Whenever he had a fire (and it was only in the winter), the
    rest of the house was cold, just the living room was comfortable.

    Ouch but not bad. I decided it's time to start some disbursements though. Now the little Trowe price IRA Whick builds 309$ every
    quarter CS> is getting trimmed by 100$ a month. 10$ to Fed tax a
    month. 8 months CS> from now, I'll srart pulling Social Security with
    Medicare part B CS> kicking in as soon as I hit 65. Haven't touched
    other IRA or my TSP CS> yet or any CDs.

    We closed out an IRA to buy the R-Pod, haven't touched any other
    retirement accounts since. Bought the R-Pod after looking at a couple of other campers because we liked the kitchen layout. It had more counter
    top work space than the camper we have now but had just a 2 burner stove
    and a microwave/convection oven.


    Life goes on!


    ......and on and on and on..........until you get to the end. (G)



    I've got another IRA untapped and a good TSP plus 49 CD's. Should be fine. Mostly making sure I don't push income over the lower rate for Medicare part B!
    They haven't raised that since 40 or so years ago. So, I'm bleeding the taxable ones down to ensure RMDs don't bite me.

    xxcarol
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jul 12 06:56:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    IIRC, they brought it to the 2007 picnic at the Shipp's. That's the
    first one we were able to attend and got to put a lot of faces with
    names. Michael made some melt in your mouth crab cakes for that one; I know I brought an assortment of home made jams and did a peach cobbler
    but don't remember any other dishes.

    I really miss MLoo.

    So do I, as well as Nancy Backus. Since she lived in Rochester, we'd
    visit her and Richard when we'd go to visit Steve's family. They were
    the ones that introduced us to Taste Of Japan, the sushi place we enjoy
    up there.

    Michael's passing was not a surprise as he's been having cardiac issues
    for some time. Nancy, OTOH, was a surprise to me. First I knew of it
    wan an e-ail from Richard saying "You've lost your Scrabble partner"
    then telling me of her passing.

    After my initial shock I replied thanking him for letting me know and
    saying "I've lost a Scrabble partner. You've lost your life mate and
    wife."

    The F-150 has a handy handle on the door frame; I always take a step
    onto the running board, grab the handle and swing myself in. Also make sure the door is only about halfway open, makes it easier to grab to close.

    That handle is often referred to as the S.O.B. bar or G.D.it handle. Nearly all pickups and many S.U.V.s have them - either on the door
    post or attached to the roof portion above the door. I use the on in
    my brother's GMC Envoy regularly. And I know exactly what you mean
    about opening the door only to the first detent.

    So much easier...........of course I have to make sure whatever I'm carrying is put either on the dashboard or floor or passed over to
    Steve. (G)

    Saw a window sign on a big, jacked-up pickup truck - "Please don't park
    too close .... I'm fat" And agreed with the sentiment. I'm no longer considering myself fat - but I am plump, still. Last trip to the cardio
    guy hey put me on the scales and I had lost another 35 pounds. (I may
    have mentioned this before - but it's 05:00 and I'm still on my first
    cup of coffee. Bv)= And, I am somewhat chuffed about the weight loss.

    8<----- NICK ----->8

    We just got an African place - "Rraveller's Kitchen" that replace La
    Bamba "Burritos as Big as Your Head". I'll have to give them a try and
    see what they mean by "African" That's a biiiiig continent. Bv)=

    I note from their on-line Door Dash menu that they also offer Afro-Mex items and vegetarian stuff.

    You will have to try them and give us a report. A new local chain
    opened a branch in WF recently so we got some take out for lunch the
    other day. Alpaca is Peruvian based, charcoal grilled chicken. We'd had some at one of their other locations so knew what we were getting. We split half a chicken, an order of maduroes (fried plantains) and a
    tossed salad. I've a feeling we'll be going back there on a sorta
    regular basis.

    I'd leave the plantains alone unless someone who knows can assure me
    that they won't break me out in hives the way their look-alike the
    banana does.

    I understand that, no fun to eat something and get hives (or worse).

    Some spots never do seem to hold a business long. There's one location here in WF that has probably had at least 5 different restaurants,
    besides long times of sitting empty, in the 15 years we've been here. Nothing seems to last more than 6 months in that location.

    Lee's Famous was there for several years - as was LaBamba Burritos.
    But we have other locations which have been sampled briefly as
    restaurant
    locations. One place near my work had a Bellacino's Grinders & Pizza
    shop there for eight years until the franchisee sold out and retired.
    The new owners were totally clewless and soon had run the business
    into bankruptcy. Then there was a string of pizza joints - some
    w/alcohol and some dry. None laasted long. Currently that location
    is shuttered.

    Waiting for something else to come along and give it a try.

    Or throw their wallet out the window. Running a successful restaurant
    is a lot of work. The only restaurant I actually ran was a downtown
    cafe that was a "front" for the girls upstairs. I paid no rent, nor
    electric bills and it was still a bit "iffy".

    But it certainly gave me an appreciation for the well run places I go
    to for my grub.

    BTW, B&N stopped supporting my Nook so I couldn't do anything but read what was on there so we got a newer edition today. Also stopped at
    World Market, got some scone mixes and a mochi (rice cake) mix.

    Did I tell you about Book Bub? I get at least on email a day listing
    "free and reduced price" offerings. Here's the link:

    https://www.bookbub.com/ebook-deals/free-ebooks

    They offer "Free Ebooks in Any Genre for Any Ereader at BookBub".

    In addition to my Kindle (and the app on my smarty-pants phone) I have
    an e-reader on my desk top confuser. It's available for Win dows, MAC,
    and Linux as well as Android and iOS cell phones.

    https://calibre-ebook.com/download

    That's where I download the cookbooks I get from Book Bub. That way I
    can cut & paste any recipes that intrigue me into Meal Monster.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Easy & Juicy Beef Brisket
    Categories: Beef, Herbs, Chilies, Sauces
    Yield: 12 servings

    6 lb Beef brisket; trimmed, pat
    - dry

    MMMMM-------------------------DRY RUB--------------------------------
    1 tb Garlic powder
    1 tb Onion powder
    1 tb Chilli spice mix
    1 tb Paprika
    1 tb Salt
    1 tb Light brown sugar
    1 ts Ground cumin
    2 tb olive oil

    MMMMM----------------------BARBECUE SAUCE----------------------------
    3 c Barbecue sauce; your choice
    1/4 c Apple cider or red wine
    - vinegar
    1 1/2 ts Hot sauce; pick your heat
    1 ts Salt

    SLOW COOKER METHOD: Spray the bowl of slow cooker with
    non-stick cooking spray. Combine dry rub ingredients
    together in a small bowl. Place brisket on a large
    cookie sheet and season both sides of the brisket with
    the dry rub and then drizzle with oil.

    Be sure to apply the rub well to both sides with your
    hands. Place brisket, fat side up, in the slow cooker
    bowl. Stir sauce ingredients together and cover brisket
    with half of the sauce. Refrigerate remaining bbq sauce
    for later.

    Cover brisket with lid and cook on low setting for 8
    hours, or on high for 4 hours. When brisket is tender,
    place onto a cookie sheet, lined with aluminum foil.

    Baste brisket with meat juices from the slow cooker and
    then with remaining bbq sauce. Broil on top rack for
    about 8-10 minutes or until charred on the edges.

    Baste with sauce again and let the brisket rest for 15
    minutes. Slice 1/4" thick, cutting against the grain.
    Serve w/remaining bbq sauce and a side of your choice.

    PRESSURE COOKER METHOD: Spray the inside of the pressure
    cooker with no-stick cooking spray. Combine dry rub
    ingredients together in a small bowl. Place brisket on a
    large cookie sheet and season both sides of the brisket
    with the dry rub and then drizzle with oil.

    Be sure to apply the rub well to both sides with your
    hands. Place brisket, fat side up, in the pressure
    cooker. Stir sauce ingredients together and cover
    brisket with half of the sauce. Refrigerate remaining
    bbq sauce for later. Cover and seal pressure cooker.

    Set to Manual at High Pressure and cook for 2 hours and
    15 minutes. Quick-release to remove steam/pressure, then
    unlock and remove the lid. Place onto a cookie sheet,
    lined with aluminum foil.

    Baste brisket with remaining bbq sauce. Broil on top
    rack for about 8-10 minutes or until charred on the
    edges. Baste sauce again and let the brisket rest for 15
    minutes. Slice 1/4" thick against the grain. Serve with
    remaining bbq sauce and a side of your choice.

    OVEN METHOD: Set oven @ 350ºF/175ºC. Season brisket (see
    above) and place it into a large roasting pan. Mix 1 cup
    beef broth with 1 cup water and then add the mixture to
    the base of the pan. Cover tightly with heavy aluminum
    foil and cook for 1 hour.

    Reduce temp to 300ºF/150ºC and let cook for an
    additional 5-6 hours, or until tender. Baste brisket
    with meat juice from the roasting pan and then with
    remaining bbq sauce.

    Broil on top rack for about 8-10 minutes or until
    charred on the edges. Baste sauce again and let the
    brisket rest for 15 minutes. Then slice 1/4" thick
    against the grain. Serve with remaining bbq sauce and
    a side of your choice.

    Author: Denise Browning

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.easyanddelish.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Fri Jul 12 13:47:23 2024
    Hi Carol,

    Ouch but not bad. I decided it's time to start some disbursements though. Now the little Trowe price IRA Whick builds 309$ every
    quarter CS> is getting trimmed by 100$ a month. 10$ to Fed tax a
    month. 8 months CS> from now, I'll srart pulling Social Security with
    Medicare part B CS> kicking in as soon as I hit 65. Haven't touched
    other IRA or my TSP CS> yet or any CDs.

    We closed out an IRA to buy the R-Pod, haven't touched any other
    retirement accounts since. Bought the R-Pod after looking at a couple of other campers because we liked the kitchen layout. It had more counter
    top work space than the camper we have now but had just a 2 burner stove
    and a microwave/convection oven.


    Life goes on!


    ......and on and on and on..........until you get to the end. (G)



    I've got another IRA untapped and a good TSP plus 49 CD's. Should be fine. Mostly making sure I don't push income over the lower rate for Medicare part B! They haven't raised that since 40 or so years ago.
    So, I'm bleeding the taxable ones down to ensure RMDs don't bite me.

    Wedon't have that much but doing well on Social Security and Steve's retirement/disability. We have several CDs, TSP and IRAs tucked away for
    the future.

    Today is a cool (mid 70s) and very wet day so we're going to do a
    lasagne for supper. Bought a couple of Rao's brand lasagnes a few months
    ago (BOGI sale) and tucked one in the freezer. They're not bad, not as
    good as my home made but a lot better than Mrs. Stouffer's. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Jul 12 14:10:24 2024
    Hi Dave,

    I really miss MLoo.

    So do I, as well as Nancy Backus. Since she lived in Rochester, we'd
    visit her and Richard when we'd go to visit Steve's family. They were
    the ones that introduced us to Taste Of Japan, the sushi place we enjoy
    up there.

    Michael's passing was not a surprise as he's been having cardiac
    issues for some time. Nancy, OTOH, was a surprise to me. First I knew
    of it
    wan an e-ail from Richard saying "You've lost your Scrabble partner"
    then telling me of her passing.

    After my initial shock I replied thanking him for letting me know and saying "I've lost a Scrabble partner. You've lost your life mate and wife."

    I knew she was in the hospital but never got up to NY in that time frame
    to see her. One time, a couple of years later, when we were having lunch
    at ToJ, Fu (the owner) told us that Richard had been in just the day
    before.


    Saw a window sign on a big, jacked-up pickup truck - "Please don't
    park too close .... I'm fat" And agreed with the sentiment. I'm no
    longer
    considering myself fat - but I am plump, still. Last trip to the

    There are times I'll get out before Steve pulls into a parking spot
    because I know I won't be able to open the door wide enough to "ooze"
    out. Other times he will pull out so I have enough door clearance to get
    in. Had to take the roof rack off the truck the other day to get into a
    parking garage; I think we had just a couple of inches of vertical
    clearance.

    8<----- NICK ----->8

    The new owners were totally clewless and soon had run the business
    into bankruptcy. Then there was a string of pizza joints - some
    w/alcohol and some dry. None laasted long. Currently that location
    is shuttered.

    Waiting for something else to come along and give it a try.

    Or throw their wallet out the window. Running a successful restaurant
    is a lot of work. The only restaurant I actually ran was a downtown
    cafe that was a "front" for the girls upstairs. I paid no rent, nor electric bills and it was still a bit "iffy".

    But it certainly gave me an appreciation for the well run places I go
    to for my grub.

    Yes; I worked as a waitress one summer so I appreciate what they do as
    well.


    BTW, B&N stopped supporting my Nook so I couldn't do anything but read what was on there so we got a newer edition today. Also stopped at
    World Market, got some scone mixes and a mochi (rice cake) mix.

    Did I tell you about Book Bub? I get at least on email a day listing
    "free and reduced price" offerings. Here's the link:

    https://www.bookbub.com/ebook-deals/free-ebooks

    They offer "Free Ebooks in Any Genre for Any Ereader at BookBub".

    I do get their e-mails; IIRC, you mentioned it when I got the Nook back
    in 2012. I usually peruse the list for what may look interesting enough
    to check into further before making a decision.

    In addition to my Kindle (and the app on my smarty-pants phone) I
    have DD> an e-reader on my desk top confuser. It's available for Win
    dows, MAC, DD> and Linux as well as Android and iOS cell phones.


    I just do the Nook; it's a good way to take a "stack" of books on a trip without taking up a lot of room. The Nook also fits nicely into my purse
    so I can take it when I have a doctor's appointment--handy since they
    don't have magazines in the waiting rooms any more. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to RUTH HAFFLY on Sun Jul 14 07:19:00 2024
    They offer "Free Ebooks in Any Genre for Any Ereader at BookBub".
    I do get their e-mails; IIRC, you mentioned it when I got the Nook back
    in 2012. I usually peruse the list for what may look interesting enough
    to check into further before making a decision.

    I just grabbed a few for the kindle here. Glad Dave re-posted that info
    as I had forgot to sign up last time he did. :)

    I just do the Nook; it's a good way to take a "stack" of books on a trip without taking up a lot of room. The Nook also fits nicely into my purse
    so I can take it when I have a doctor's appointment--handy since they
    don't have magazines in the waiting rooms any more. (G)

    My Kindle is the same it fits into my "Murse" which is just a lunch bag
    from Wallyworld that I keep all my cr...stuff in. Pocket's just aren't
    big enough for all my crap.

    Shawn

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Jul 14 05:25:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Carol Shenkenberger <=-

    Wedon't have that much but doing well on Social Security and Steve's retirement/disability. We have several CDs, TSP and IRAs tucked away
    for the future.

    My brother is sitting pretty on that front. He has his union pension,
    school board pension and Social Security. His wife has the school board
    pension and Social Security. They are making (he says) more than when
    they worked. I, OTOH, have just Social security and my part-time job at AutoZone to pad that out. Cashed out my investment plan to pay off my
    little house - so, it's "doable".

    Today is a cool (mid 70s) and very wet day so we're going to do a
    lasagne for supper. Bought a couple of Rao's brand lasagnes a few
    months ago (BOGI sale) and tucked one in the freezer. They're not bad,
    not as good as my home made but a lot better than Mrs. Stouffer's. (G)

    The only Stouffer's I get is their Spaghetti w/meat saue. It's a nice
    supper for one - nuke it for the stated 6 1/2 minutes, stir to mix and
    sprinkle some sawdust (shaker can Parm) over it and dig in. I've been
    going through the various offerings of "Healthy Choice Cafe Steamers"
    as they are put on special offer. Plus the bowl of the steamer is nice
    when washed and saved as a serving bowl for picnics, oe cereal, or any
    use where a shallow, non-breakable vessel would come in handy. One of
    my favourites there is Chicken-broccili fettucine Alfredo. It's as good
    as what I've had at many restaurants and (usually) U$3.49/serving.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Broccoli Chicken Alfredo
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Pasta, Cheese, Sauces
    Yield: 4 servings

    2 c Uncooked whole wheat penne
    3 c Chopped broccoli; thawed
    1 lb Boned, skinned chicken; in
    - 1/2" cubes
    2 cl Garlic; minced
    1 c Alfredo sauce
    1/4 c Grated Parmesan cheese; more
    - for sprinkling at table
    1/4 ts Pepper

    Cook pasta according to package directions, adding the
    broccoli during the last 5 minutes of cooking.

    Meanwhile, in a large skillet coated with cooking spray,
    saute chicken until lightly browned. Add garlic; saute
    1-2 minutes longer or until chicken is no longer pink
    and garlic is tender.

    Drain pasta mixture; add to the pan. Stir in the Alfredo
    sauce, cheese and pepper; cook and stir until heated
    through.

    UDD NOTES: I use either Classic or Bertolli jarred sauce
    for this depending on what's on sale. Rao's is excellent
    but pricy. If I don't have whole wheat pasta in stock I
    use 'regular' pasta. It's all good.

    Terrie Fontenot - Fresno, Texas

    Makes: 4 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Jul 14 06:28:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Or throw their wallet out the window. Running a successful restaurant
    is a lot of work. The only restaurant I actually ran was a downtown
    cafe that was a "front" for the girls upstairs. I paid no rent, nor electric bills and it was still a bit "iffy".

    But it certainly gave me an appreciation for the well run places I go
    to for my grub.

    Yes; I worked as a waitress one summer so I appreciate what they do as well.

    I was offered a job as a cook once when I was making a Hollandaise in
    a commercial kitchen. (I've told that story here before) I told the lady
    who owned the kitchen "No thanks. I don't want to work that hard."

    BTW, B&N stopped supporting my Nook so I couldn't do anything but read what was on there so we got a newer edition today. Also stopped at
    World Market, got some scone mixes and a mochi (rice cake) mix.

    They did what? That's nasty on their part. Amazon's Kindle is compatible
    (and supported) from the earliest version to the latest. I got a newer
    one to replace the Kindle Keyboard version I dropped and broke the
    disply. They no longer offer the Keyboard version so I got a "paper white" model and I can read very nicelyin low-light conditions.

    I don'r watch the boob tube (as I've said many times) so reading is my
    form of infotainment. The last physical book I bought was a copy of
    "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" a non-fiction tome.

    Did I tell you about Book Bub? I get at least on email a day listing
    "free and reduced price" offerings. Here's the link:

    https://www.bookbub.com/ebook-deals/free-ebooks

    They offer "Free Ebooks in Any Genre for Any Ereader at BookBub".

    I do get their e-mails; IIRC, you mentioned it when I got the Nook back
    in 2012. I usually peruse the list for what may look interesting enough
    to check into further before making a decision.

    I read the brief description in the e-mail and, if interested, click the
    link and check out the fuller description on the web page. I remember
    plots and story lines better than titles - so sometimes I'll click on a
    book that sounds like it's up my street on to be informed that I already
    own it when I get to the Amazon page. Bv)=

    In addition to my Kindle (and the app on my smarty-pants phone) I
    have an e-reader on my desk top confuser. It's available for Windows,
    MAC, and Linux as well as Android and iOS cell phones.

    I just do the Nook; it's a good way to take a "stack" of books on a
    trip without taking up a lot of room. The Nook also fits nicely into my purse so I can take it when I have a doctor's appointment--handy since they don't have magazines in the waiting rooms any more. (G)

    I have a "portfolio" cover that was intended for a Nook. Besides the
    pocket for the e-reader there are two pockets for other stashes. It's
    much like a ladies clutch purse or extra wallet - which is hand as I
    take the Kindle wit me where ever I go. Especially to medical visits.

    Our waiting rooms mostly do have magazines, etc. available - but the
    stuff is so out-dated ..........

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Chicken & Celery Sandwich
    Categories: Poultry, Breads, Vegetables, Sauces, Herbs
    Yield: 10 sandwiches

    500 g (10 oz) chicken breast
    20 g (1.5 oz) Cajun spice
    1/2 loaf soy linseed bread
    100 mL (7 tb) Japanese Kewpie mayo
    75 g (2.5 oz) chopped celery
    20 g (.75 oz) chopped chives
    10 mL (2 ts) olive oil
    Salt & pepper

    Add Cajun spice, salt and olive oil to chicken breast.

    Mix thoroughly and vacuum seal.

    Steam @ 175oF/79oC for 30 minutes in vacuum bag.

    Once cooked, let the chicken cool down.

    Finely dice the chicken and fold with Japanese
    mayonnaise.

    Add chopped celery to chicken mix and adjust seasoning.
    (salt and pepper)

    Spread Japanese mayonnaise on both sides of soy linseed
    bread.

    Add generous amount of chicken mix on to bread slices.

    Trim the crust on all sides and slice in to 4 triangles.

    Garnish with chopped chives and serve

    The Waiting Room at Crown Melbourne.

    RECIPE FROM: https://highteasociety.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Sun Jul 14 19:31:52 2024
    Hi Shawn,

    They offer "Free Ebooks in Any Genre for Any Ereader at BookBub".
    I do get their e-mails; IIRC, you mentioned it when I got the Nook back
    in 2012. I usually peruse the list for what may look interesting enough
    to check into further before making a decision.

    I just grabbed a few for the kindle here. Glad Dave re-posted that
    info as I had forgot to sign up last time he did. :)


    I just do the Nook; it's a good way to take a "stack" of books on a trip without taking up a lot of room. The Nook also fits nicely into my purse
    so I can take it when I have a doctor's appointment--handy since they
    don't have magazines in the waiting rooms any more. (G)

    My Kindle is the same it fits into my "Murse" which is just a lunch
    bag from Wallyworld that I keep all my cr...stuff in. Pocket's just aren't big enough for all my crap.

    Back in 2009 we made an international trip; I wanted a bag big enough to
    hold my usual purse stuff, passport and other odds and ends. LLBean was
    selling a canvas bag as a diaper bag, zipped pockets, several on the
    outside for easy access, etc. That fit my needs for the trip, used it as
    a book bag as I was finishing my work thru the seminary. The Bean bag is
    still going strong; I use it as my "personal carry on item" when flying
    for my computer, Nook, purse stuff, etc. When we drive somewhere, it
    gets the computer, Nook and whatever else I put in. There's one outside
    zip pocket that's good for holding granola bars, a crossword puzzle
    book, etc. A mesh pocket holds a water bottle. I've gotten my money's
    worth from the bag and it is still going strong.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Jul 14 19:41:13 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Wedon't have that much but doing well on Social Security and Steve's retirement/disability. We have several CDs, TSP and IRAs tucked away
    for the future.

    My brother is sitting pretty on that front. He has his union pension, school board pension and Social Security. His wife has the school
    board pension and Social Security. They are making (he says) more than when

    They are doing well then. I didn't work long enough to get full Social
    Security but, some's better than none.


    they worked. I, OTOH, have just Social security and my part-time job
    at AutoZone to pad that out. Cashed out my investment plan to pay off
    my little house - so, it's "doable".

    Steve has mentioned cashing out an IRA to pay off the house but we've
    not done so yet. Soon getting to the point when we have to draw from it
    so we'll probably use that for extra house payments. We're paying extra
    on the principle every month so already have the mortgage about half
    paid.



    Today is a cool (mid 70s) and very wet day so we're going to do a
    lasagne for supper. Bought a couple of *Rao's brand lasagnes a few
    months ago (BOGO sale) and tucked one in the freezer. They're not
    bad, RH> not as good as my home made but a lot better than Mrs.
    Stouffer's. (G)

    *Not Rao's but don't recall the brand right now.


    The only Stouffer's I get is their Spaghetti w/meat saue. It's a nice supper for one - nuke it for the stated 6 1/2 minutes, stir to mix and sprinkle some sawdust (shaker can Parm) over it and dig in. I've been going through the various offerings of "Healthy Choice Cafe Steamers"
    as they are put on special offer. Plus the bowl of the steamer is nice when washed and saved as a serving bowl for picnics, oe cereal, or any
    use where a shallow, non-breakable vessel would come in handy. One of
    my favourites there is Chicken-broccili fettucine Alfredo. It's as
    good as what I've had at many restaurants and (usually)
    U$3.49/serving.

    One time when we were at my parent's house, my brothers were talking
    about how good Mrs. Stouffer's lasagne is. Steve and I looked at each
    other with a "do they ever have lousy taste in food!" look. I guess it
    cmes naturally; my mom used to make lasagne with cottage cheese. I got
    my lasagne recipe from my Italian MIL. (G)


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Jul 14 19:52:33 2024
    Hi Dave,

    electric bills and it was still a bit "iffy".

    But it certainly gave me an appreciation for the well run places I go
    to for my grub.

    Yes; I worked as a waitress one summer so I appreciate what they do as well.

    I was offered a job as a cook once when I was making a Hollandaise in
    a commercial kitchen. (I've told that story here before) I told the
    lady who owned the kitchen "No thanks. I don't want to work that
    hard."

    I know, one summer was enough for me. Other summers I worked at camps, specialty counselor some weeks, other weeks, as regular counselor.

    BTW, B&N stopped supporting my Nook so I couldn't do anything but read what was on there so we got a newer edition today. Also stopped at
    World Market, got some scone mixes and a mochi (rice cake) mix.

    They did what? That's nasty on their part. Amazon's Kindle is

    My Nook was a 2011 model; B&N has put out a new version almost every
    year since. This year they stopped supporting all but the most recent (3
    years? back) models.



    compatible (and supported) from the earliest version to the latest. I
    got a newer
    one to replace the Kindle Keyboard version I dropped and broke the
    disply. They no longer offer the Keyboard version so I got a "paper
    white" model and I can read very nicelyin low-light conditions.

    The new Nook has a paper white background/lighting--so much nicer than
    the old version.


    I don'r watch the boob tube (as I've said many times) so reading is my form of infotainment. The last physical book I bought was a copy of
    "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" a non-fiction tome.

    Sounds interesting. I'll source my books any and every where, for hard
    copy I try to get from thrift shops, ReStore, and so on.


    Did I tell you about Book Bub? I get at least on email a day listing
    "free and reduced price" offerings. Here's the link:


    I do get their e-mails; IIRC, you mentioned it when I got the Nook back
    in 2012. I usually peruse the list for what may look interesting enough
    to check into further before making a decision.

    I read the brief description in the e-mail and, if interested, click
    the link and check out the fuller description on the web page. I
    remember
    plots and story lines better than titles - so sometimes I'll click on
    a book that sounds like it's up my street on to be informed that I
    already own it when I get to the Amazon page. Bv)=

    I've not encountered an "oh, I already own it" experience yet. (G)

    MAC, and Linux as well as Android and iOS cell phones.

    I just do the Nook; it's a good way to take a "stack" of books on a
    trip without taking up a lot of room. The Nook also fits nicely into my purse so I can take it when I have a doctor's appointment--handy since they don't have magazines in the waiting rooms any more. (G)

    I have a "portfolio" cover that was intended for a Nook. Besides the pocket for the e-reader there are two pockets for other stashes. It's
    much like a ladies clutch purse or extra wallet - which is hand as I
    take the Kindle wit me where ever I go. Especially to medical visits.

    An extra Bible cover (zip all the way around, pocket for Nook, extra one
    for light, notebook, granola bar, charger, etc) is handy for carrying
    the Nook if I need the extra stuff. If not, the unit is in a portfolio
    cover already so I'll just grab it.


    Our waiting rooms mostly do have magazines, etc. available - but the
    stuff is so out-dated ..........

    Sometimes I've found interesting recipies in the magazines, especially
    if it's a magazine I don't subscribe to. I'll snap a picture of the
    recipe so I'll have it without tearing up the magazine. Or, if the
    magazine is really old, I'll ask if I can tear out the recipe and
    usually get an OK. (G)

    ---
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    Ruth
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jul 15 16:18:15 2024
    Re: Towing the Line was: Chick'n
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Fri Jul 12 2024 01:47 pm

    Hi Carol,

    Ouch but not bad. I decided it's time to start some disbursements though. Now the little Trowe price IRA Whick builds 309$ every
    quarter CS> is getting trimmed by 100$ a month. 10$ to Fed tax a
    month. 8 months CS> from now, I'll srart pulling Social Security with
    Medicare part B CS> kicking in as soon as I hit 65. Haven't touched
    other IRA or my TSP CS> yet or any CDs.

    We closed out an IRA to buy the R-Pod, haven't touched any other retirement accounts since. Bought the R-Pod after looking at a couple of other campers because we liked the kitchen layout. It had more counter top work space than the camper we have now but had just a 2 burner stove and a microwave/convection oven.


    Life goes on!


    ......and on and on and on..........until you get to the end. (G)



    I've got another IRA untapped and a good TSP plus 49 CD's. Should be fine. Mostly making sure I don't push income over the lower rate for Medicare part B! They haven't raised that since 40 or so years ago. So, I'm bleeding the taxable ones down to ensure RMDs don't bite me.

    Wedon't have that much but doing well on Social Security and Steve's retirement/disability. We have several CDs, TSP and IRAs tucked away for
    the future.

    Today is a cool (mid 70s) and very wet day so we're going to do a
    lasagne for supper. Bought a couple of Rao's brand lasagnes a few months
    ago (BOGI sale) and tucked one in the freezer. They're not bad, not as
    good as my home made but a lot better than Mrs. Stouffer's. (G)


    I'm sure we are both fine. Mostly watch for required minimum distributions. By pulling some earlier than I have to, I'm just banking it for the future in CDs where I pay no fees on withdrawal, just interest is taxed.

    Today is warmer than Don likes but I'm ok inside. 94F outside and muggy.

    xxcarol
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jul 15 17:59:00 2024
    Hi Ruth,

    On <Mon, 14 Jul 24>, you wrote me:

    flying for my computer, Nook, purse stuff, etc. When we drive
    somewhere, it gets the computer, Nook and whatever else I put in.

    This sounds perfect.

    There's one outside
    zip pocket that's good for holding granola bars, a crossword puzzle
    book, etc. A mesh pocket holds a water bottle. I've gotten my money's worth from the bag and it is still going strong.

    Good setup for sure. I find stuff just ends up piled in my car which isn't good considering they break into it all the time for change.

    Shawn


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jul 16 06:29:52 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Wedon't have that much but doing well on Social Security and Steve's retirement/disability. We have several CDs, TSP and IRAs tucked away
    for the future.

    My brother is sitting pretty on that front. He has his union pension, school board pension and Social Security. His wife has the school
    board pension and Social Security. They are making (he says) more than when

    They are doing well then. I didn't work long enough to get full Social Security but, some's better than none.

    By continuing to work and pay into SS my monthly cheque increases every
    year (more than the COLA bumps. Plus, I enjoy what I do so it's not "work"
    just .......

    they worked. I, OTOH, have just Social security and my part-time job
    at AutoZone to pad that out. Cashed out my investment plan to pay off
    my little house - so, it's "doable".

    Steve has mentioned cashing out an IRA to pay off the house but we've
    not done so yet. Soon getting to the point when we have to draw from it
    so we'll probably use that for extra house payments. We're paying extra
    on the principle every month so already have the mortgage about half
    paid.

    It's a matter of mathematics. Which is why I don't carry a balance on
    my credit cards. And it makes it easier to get a home equity loan. I
    needed one when I re-roofed the house, rebuilt the patio cover and had
    the tree removed that caused me to need to rebuild the cover.

    8<----- WHACK ----->8

    One time when we were at my parent's house, my brothers were talking
    about how good Mrs. Stouffer's lasagne is. Steve and I looked at each other with a "do they ever have lousy taste in food!" look. I guess it cmes naturally; my mom used to make lasagne with cottage cheese. I got
    my lasagne recipe from my Italian MIL. (G)

    It's all in what you're accustomed to, I suppose.

    The Guineas around here used both ricotta and cottage cheese. And once
    in a while just small curd cottage cheese.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Traditional Lasagna
    Categories: Pasta, Beef, Pork, Cheese, Vegetables
    Yield: 12 servings

    1 lb Ground beef
    3/4 lb Italian pork sausage
    24 oz (3 cans) tomato sauce
    12 oz (2 cans) tomato paste
    2 cl Garlic minced
    2 ts Sugar
    1 ts Italian seasoning
    1 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Pepper
    3 lg Eggs
    3 tb Minced fresh parsley
    3 c Small-curd cottage cheese
    1 c Ricotta cheese
    1/2 c Grated Parmesan cheese
    9 Lasagna noodles; cooked,
    - drained
    6 sl Provolone cheese; 6 ounces
    3 c Shredded mozzarella cheese;
    - divided

    In a large skillet over medium heat, cook and crumble
    beef and sausage until no longer pink; drain. Add next 7
    ingredients. Bring to a boil. Reduce heat; simmer,
    uncovered, 1 hour, stirring occasionally. Adjust
    seasoning with additional salt and pepper if desired.

    Meanwhile, in a large bowl, lightly beat eggs. Add
    parsley; stir in cottage cheese, ricotta and Parmesan
    cheese.

    Set oven @ 375ºF/190ºC.

    Spread 1 cup meat sauce in an ungreased 13x9-in. baking
    dish. Layer baking dish with 3 noodles, provolone
    cheese, 2 cups cottage cheese mixture, 1 cup mozzarella,
    3 noodles, 2 cups meat sauce, remaining cottage cheese
    mixture and 1 cup mozzarella. Top with remaining
    noodles, meat sauce and mozzarella (dish will be full).

    Cover; bake 50 minutes. Uncover; bake until heated
    through, about 20 minutes. Let lasagna stand 15 minutes
    before cutting.

    Lorri Foockle, Granville, Illinois

    Makes: 12 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Wed Jul 17 13:33:03 2024
    Hi Shawn,

    flying for my computer, Nook, purse stuff, etc. When we drive
    somewhere, it gets the computer, Nook and whatever else I put in.

    This sounds perfect.

    Sometimes I now wonder how I got along without it. (G)


    There's one outside
    zip pocket that's good for holding granola bars, a crossword puzzle
    book, etc. A mesh pocket holds a water bottle. I've gotten my money's worth from the bag and it is still going strong.

    Good setup for sure. I find stuff just ends up piled in my car which isn't good considering they break into it all the time for change.

    If we have any food/drink wrappers in the truck (Steve likes a mid
    afternoon snack when travelling so I keep nuts, bars, etc handy.), we'll
    clean them out at the next rest stop. Cans and bottles (usually, tho, we
    just refill water bottles) go into recycle, wrappers into trash. We've
    not had a break in for change yet, probably because the change is not
    visible.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jul 17 13:49:10 2024
    Hi Dave,


    They are doing well then. I didn't work long enough to get full Social Security but, some's better than none.

    By continuing to work and pay into SS my monthly cheque increases
    every year (more than the COLA bumps. Plus, I enjoy what I do so it's
    not "work" just .......

    I'm self employed so I can pick and choose my jobs. Not doing anything
    right now because our AC not working right, current project is a flannel
    shirt. Should have AC fixed Friday, then back to the sewing machine.


    Steve has mentioned cashing out an IRA to pay off the house but we've
    not done so yet. Soon getting to the point when we have to draw from it
    so we'll probably use that for extra house payments. We're paying extra
    on the principle every month so already have the mortgage about half
    paid.

    It's a matter of mathematics. Which is why I don't carry a balance on
    my credit cards. And it makes it easier to get a home equity loan. I needed one when I re-roofed the house, rebuilt the patio cover and had
    the tree removed that caused me to need to rebuild the cover.

    We don't carry a balance on our cards either. Couple of times when we
    had big projects (house siding, new heating/cooling unit), a windfall
    has come in at the same time to pay for it.

    8<----- WHACK ----->8

    One time when we were at my parent's house, my brothers were talking
    about how good Mrs. Stouffer's lasagne is. Steve and I looked at each other with a "do they ever have lousy taste in food!" look. I guess it cmes naturally; my mom used to make lasagne with cottage cheese. I got
    my lasagne recipe from my Italian MIL. (G)

    It's all in what you're accustomed to, I suppose.

    Probably so, but once I got my MIL's recipe, I never looked at my mom's.
    Same as we said we'd make his mom's sauce & meatballs and my mom's meat
    sauce, then decide which to keep making. Made his mom's first, never
    made my mom's. (G)

    The Guineas around here used both ricotta and cottage cheese. And
    once DD> in a while just small curd cottage cheese.

    Guess it depends on what area of Italy you're from.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jul 18 19:35:07 2024
    Hi Ruth,

    We've not had a break in for change yet, probably because the change
    is not visible.

    Doesn't matter here, I park my car in a public toilet, sorry that's garage. By
    the time I step over the piles of poop and dodge "McBargins" who sets his
    wares up along the stairs so you can't get in...

    Shawn

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jul 19 07:13:35 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

    If we have any food/drink wrappers in the truck (Steve likes a mid afternoon snack when travelling so I keep nuts, bars, etc handy.),
    we'll clean them out at the next rest stop. Cans and bottles (usually, tho, we just refill water bottles) go into recycle, wrappers into
    trash. We've not had a break in for change yet, probably because the change is not visible.

    For many thieves a parked vehicle is an "op shop". They'll break in
    just to see if there's anything they can use/eat/drink/sell. I lock my
    car even in my own driveway.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Lady Locks
    Categories: Cookies, Desserts, Snacks
    Yield: 3 Dozen

    16 oz Box puff pastry
    Clothes pins
    +=OR=+
    Lady lock forms
    1 lg Egg; beaten
    +=WITH=+
    2 tb Water for egg wash
    1/2 c Softened butter
    1 c Powdered sugar
    1/4 c Shortening
    1/4 c Evaporated milk; cold
    1 1/2 ts Vanilla
    5 tb Marshmallow creme
    Colored jimmies
    Powdered sugar

    About 1 hour before beginning recipe, defrost puff pastry
    in refrigerator. DO NOT remove pastry from plastic bag.
    After 1 hour, unwrap one section of pastry and rewrap in
    a damp towel. It is very important to keep pastry cold
    and damp at all times. If the pastry is not cold to the
    touch, put it back into the refrigerator until it is.

    Carefully unroll one sheet of pastry and cut widthwise
    in 3/4" strips. Roll each strip around a clothes pin or
    form, being careful not to smash the dough. Brush with
    egg wash and place on pastry sheet.

    Bake at 375ºF/190ºC until golden brown. Cool cookies just
    until you can pick them up. Remove the shells from the
    forms. Repeat with second sheet.

    Lady locks can be stored in a covered container for one
    month.

    For filling, beat butter and shortening. Add powdered
    sugar and cold milk, beating well. Add vanilla and then
    marshmallow creme. When smooth and fluffy, use pastry
    tube or cookie press icing tube to fill shells. Fill
    from both ends.

    Dip each end into colored jimmies and dust with powdered
    sugar shake through a sifter.

    Makes about 3 dozen.

    From: http://www.recipes.epicurean.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jul 19 07:25:10 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    They are doing well then. I didn't work long enough to get full Social Security but, some's better than none.

    By continuing to work and pay into SS my monthly cheque increases
    every year (more than the COLA bumps. Plus, I enjoy what I do so it's
    not "work" just .......

    I'm self employed so I can pick and choose my jobs. Not doing anything right now because our AC not working right, current project is a
    flannel shirt. Should have AC fixed Friday, then back to the sewing machine.

    Do you make enough to file with the Eternal Revenue Service? When I ran
    a print shop in my basement as a side business one of the things I hated
    most was the paperwork for the IRS filings.

    Steve has mentioned cashing out an IRA to pay off the house but we've
    not done so yet. Soon getting to the point when we have to draw from it
    so we'll probably use that for extra house payments. We're paying extra
    on the principle every month so already have the mortgage about half
    paid.

    I got a link in one of my on-line news feeds the other day - so I followed
    it and found myself nodding my head often as I read it. Worth a read.

    https://www.forbes.com/advisor/mortgages/pay-off-your-mortgage-early/

    It's a matter of mathematics. Which is why I don't carry a balance on
    my credit cards. And it makes it easier to get a home equity loan. I needed one when I re-roofed the house, rebuilt the patio cover and had
    the tree removed that caused me to need to rebuild the cover.

    We don't carry a balance on our cards either. Couple of times when we
    had big projects (house siding, new heating/cooling unit), a windfall
    has come in at the same time to pay for it.

    Found money is *always* nice.

    8<----- WHACK ----->8

    One time when we were at my parent's house, my brothers were talking
    about how good Mrs. Stouffer's lasagne is. Steve and I looked at each other with a "do they ever have lousy taste in food!" look. I guess it cmes naturally; my mom used to make lasagne with cottage cheese. I got
    my lasagne recipe from my Italian MIL. (G)

    It's all in what you're accustomed to, I suppose.

    Probably so, but once I got my MIL's recipe, I never looked at my
    mom's. Same as we said we'd make his mom's sauce & meatballs and my
    mom's meat sauce, then decide which to keep making. Made his mom's
    first, never made my mom's. (G)

    The Guineas around here used both ricotta and cottage cheese. And
    once DD> in a while just small curd cottage cheese.

    Guess it depends on what area of Italy you're from.

    There are regional specialtiesd in nearly any cuisine.It's seldon the
    same all over the country. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Sicilian Caponata
    Categories: Vegetables, Nuts, Herbs
    Yield: 5 servings

    4 md Eggplants; in 3/4" cubes
    Salt
    2 Celery ribs; in 1/2" long
    - pieces
    1 lg Red onion; thin sliced
    - lengthwise
    6 oz Pitted green olives; halved
    1/4 c Capers; rinsed, drained
    1/4 c Tomato paste
    1/2 c Red wine vinegar
    2 tb Sugar
    1/2 c Toasted whole almonds; fine
    - chopped
    Fresh ground black pepper
    Extra-virgin olive oil; for
    - drizzling

    Place the eggplant in a colander, season liberally with
    salt, and toss to combine. Let the eggplant stand for 30
    minutes, then rinse under cold running water until all
    the salt is gone. Squeeze all the moisture from the
    eggplant and dry them thoroughly on paper towels. In a
    large skillet, warm the olive oil over high heat.
    Working in three batches, add the eggplant to the oil
    and fry, tossing occasionally, until dark brown all
    over, about 10 minutes. Using a slotted spoon, transfer
    the eggplant to paper towels to drain and discard all
    but 2 tablespoons of the olive oil.

    Reduce the skillet to medium heat, add the celery and
    onion, and cook, stirring, until soft, about 6 minutes.
    Stir in the olives and capers and cook for 2 minutes.
    Add the tomato paste and cook, stirring, until the paste
    is lightly caramelized, about 2 minutes more. Pour in
    the vinegar and sugar and cook, stirring, until the
    sugar dissolves and the vinegar almost completely
    evaporates, 2 to 3 minutes more.

    Scrape the vegetables into a large bowl, stir in the
    eggplant and the almonds, and season the caponata with
    salt and pepper. Drizzle the caponata with extra-virgin
    olive oil before serving.

    Yield: makes 5 cups

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.saveur.com

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jul 19 15:16:13 2024
    Re: Towing the Line was: Chic
    By: Ruth Haffly to Dave Drum on Wed Jul 17 2024 01:49 pm


    On credit cards, I carry often a small balance but under 1,000. Right now it's higher but just covered a roofing job and am miway on a chimney fix. It's about 3k and going up to 4k. I'll bleed it off pretty fast.

    The card is at 6.9% and pays cash back on any purchase (4% I think?).

    xxcarol
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Jul 20 05:06:00 2024
    Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    On credit cards, I carry often a small balance but under 1,000. Right
    now it's higher but just covered a roofing job and am miway on a
    chimney fix. It's about 3k and going up to 4k. I'll bleed it off
    pretty fast.

    The card is at 6.9% and pays cash back on any purchase (4% I think?).

    What is the APR though? My American Express has the best annual percentage
    rate of my cards and it's at 23.97% (jut looked). The monthly percentage doesn't sound bad - until you do the math.

    Last time I did home repairs I floated a home equity lona. I could have
    covered the new roof and patio cover and tree removal from my checking
    account 0 but I didn't want to go back to living paycheck to paycheck.

    So I did the loan at 4.5% APR - and still paid it off as soon as I could.
    Then I learned that the hoe-eq loan was, in fact, a second mortgage when
    I got the papers following pay-off.

    Still, general purpose credit cards have ony been around sine 1958 with
    the introduction of the Bank Americard - which became Visa. And the AMEX
    card.

    For me the cards are a convenience item. And they let me tell panhandlers "Sorry, bub. I'm all on plastic."

    This is as close to a Diner's Club recipe as I have ....

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Diner-Style Club Sandwich
    Categories: Poultry, Pork, Vegetables, Breads
    Yield: 2 servings

    6 sl Thin-cut bacon
    6 sl White bread; lightly toasted
    1/4 c Mayonnaise; more as needed
    2 lg Romaine or iceberg lettuce
    - leaves; more as needed
    1 (5 oz) beefsteak tomato;
    - thin sliced
    4 oz Thin-sliced roasted turkey
    Fine salt & black pepper
    Potato chips; toserve

    Position a rack in the middle of the oven; heat to
    425oF/218oC.

    Place a towel-lined platter near your workspace.

    Arrange the bacon strips in a single layer on a large,
    rimmed baking sheet and transfer to the oven (no need to
    wait for it to be preheated). Roast the bacon for 18 to
    20 minutes, or until it is crisped. Transfer to the
    prepared platter and break each strip in half.

    UDD NOTE: You can microwave your bacon in a 1000 watt
    or more powerful oven for 5 minutes using a microwave
    safe platter and paper towels.

    While the bacon is roasting, gather and prepare the
    remaining sandwich ingredients: the bread, mayonnaise,
    lettuce, tomato, turkey, and salt and pepper.

    To assemble the sandwiches, generously spread the
    mayonnaise on one side of each of the bread slices. Cut
    the lettuce leaves into 4 pieces, so they will fit
    neatly on the bread.

    Place a lettuce leaf on 2 of the slices; top each with a
    tomato slice, then 3 bacon halves and a quarter of the
    turkey, and season lightly with salt and pepper. Top
    with a second slice of bread, mayonnaise side down.
    Gently spread mayonnaise on the top slice of bread.
    Repeat layering the ingredients in the same order on top
    of this slice of bread. Cover the sandwiches with the
    final slice of bread, mayonnaise side down. Gently press
    down on each sandwich and use 4 toothpicks to secure the
    sandwich layers in 4 equally spaced spots, pressing all
    the way through the bottom slice of bread. Using a
    serrated knife, cut each sandwich diagonally, into 4
    triangular pieces (each piece should be secured in the
    center with a toothpick).

    Arrange the sandwiches on plates and serve with potato
    chips.

    From: Ann Maloney.

    Makes: 2 double-decker sandwiches

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.washingtonpost.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Fri Jul 19 20:59:22 2024
    Hi Shawn,

    Hi Ruth,

    We've not had a break in for change yet, probably because the change
    is not visible.

    Doesn't matter here, I park my car in a public toilet, sorry that's garage. By

    the time I step over the piles of poop and dodge "McBargins" who sets
    his wares up along the stairs so you can't get in...

    Not fun. We have a driveway but no garage. Driveway is just long enough
    for the camper and truck, doesn't extend onto the sidewalk. Had to go
    down to Raleigh last week for some lab work, office suggested we park in
    the garage. It was quite an interesting squeeze but we took the roof
    racks off the cap on the truck and wiggled into a spot. Had to go back
    today so we parked on the street. Steve stayed with the truck so nobody bothered it. After we were done, we went over to Trader Joe's, hadn't
    been there in several years. Picked up some goodies--dark chocolate
    covered coffee beans for Steve and dark chocolate covered mints &
    caramels for me. Also got some crackers and maple leaf cookies.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Jul 21 05:34:00 2024
    Hi Ruth,
    On <Sat, 19 Jul 24>, you wrote me:

    After we were done, we went over to Trader Joe's,
    hadn't been there in several years. Picked up some goodies--dark chocolate covered coffee beans for Steve and dark chocolate covered
    mints & caramels for me. Also got some crackers and maple leaf
    cookies.

    Laugh, I just picked up maple leaf cookies on the weekend. Haven't had
    one in a few years and saw them while shopping hungry.... LOL



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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jul 20 11:06:49 2024
    Hi Dave,


    If we have any food/drink wrappers in the truck (Steve likes a mid afternoon snack when travelling so I keep nuts, bars, etc handy.),
    we'll clean them out at the next rest stop. Cans and bottles (usually, tho, we just refill water bottles) go into recycle, wrappers into
    trash. We've not had a break in for change yet, probably because the change is not visible.

    For many thieves a parked vehicle is an "op shop". They'll break in
    just to see if there's anything they can use/eat/drink/sell. I lock my
    car even in my own driveway.

    I know, we have a high value item in the car but the windows are tinted
    enough that it's not easily visible. And yes, we do lock the truck all
    the time, even in our driveway. The truck has an alarm and we live just
    off a fairly busy street so I don't think anybody would be dumb enough
    to venture a break in.

    Meanwhile, our fig tree is beginning its summer time bonanza out put.
    I'll probably make some preserves again this year; we've been giving
    away last year's out put. Those that we froze, were just turned into fig
    syrup.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jul 20 11:24:43 2024
    Hi Dave,


    By continuing to work and pay into SS my monthly cheque increases
    every year (more than the COLA bumps. Plus, I enjoy what I do so it's
    not "work" just .......

    I'm self employed so I can pick and choose my jobs. Not doing anything right now because our AC not working right, current project is a
    flannel shirt. Should have AC fixed Friday, then back to the sewing machine.

    Do you make enough to file with the Eternal Revenue Service? When I
    ran a print shop in my basement as a side business one of the things I hated most was the paperwork for the IRS filings.

    Usually just enough to add into our Misc. income; it's not enough to
    consider a business but since we do get some income from it, that's hhow
    we treat it.


    Steve has mentioned cashing out an IRA to pay off the house but we've
    not done so yet. Soon getting to the point when we have to draw from it
    so we'll probably use that for extra house payments. We're paying extra
    on the principle every month so already have the mortgage about half
    paid.

    I got a link in one of my on-line news feeds the other day - so I
    followed it and found myself nodding my head often as I read it. Worth
    a read.

    https://www.forbes.com/advisor/mortgages/pay-off-your-mortgage-early/

    It's a matter of mathematics. Which is why I don't carry a balance on
    my credit cards. And it makes it easier to get a home equity loan. I needed one when I re-roofed the house, rebuilt the patio cover and had
    the tree removed that caused me to need to rebuild the cover.

    We don't carry a balance on our cards either. Couple of times when we
    had big projects (house siding, new heating/cooling unit), a windfall
    has come in at the same time to pay for it.

    Found money is *always* nice.

    Yes, but no such windfalls this week. Truck needed some routine work,
    a/c return failed and had to be replaced & system cleaned, then
    something in the upright freezer jammed the door just slightly open &
    iced up the system. Found that in time to rescue most everything, gave
    us a chance to weed out some stuff. Thankfully, Tricare for Life and
    Medicare covered my (specialist) doctor's appointment and we were able
    to use the camper (which has a/c) when the house got hot. Also, Steve
    got a bit of a discount on the truck work.


    8<----- WHACK ----->8

    One time when we were at my parent's house, my brothers were talking
    about how good Mrs. Stouffer's lasagne is. Steve and I looked at each other with a "do they ever have lousy taste in food!" look. I guess it cmes naturally; my mom used to make lasagne with cottage cheese. I got
    my lasagne recipe from my Italian MIL. (G)

    It's all in what you're accustomed to, I suppose.

    Probably so, but once I got my MIL's recipe, I never looked at my
    mom's. Same as we said we'd make his mom's sauce & meatballs and my
    mom's meat sauce, then decide which to keep making. Made his mom's
    first, never made my mom's. (G)

    The Guineas around here used both ricotta and cottage cheese. And
    once DD> in a while just small curd cottage cheese.

    Guess it depends on what area of Italy you're from.

    There are regional specialtiesd in nearly any cuisine.It's seldon the
    same all over the country. Bv)=

    True, Steve's mom's family is from the Calabrian region, the toe of the
    boot. Well known as stone cutters.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Jul 20 11:42:29 2024
    Hi Carol,


    On credit cards, I carry often a small balance but under 1,000. Right
    now it's higher but just covered a roofing job and am miway on a
    chimney fix. It's about 3k and going up to 4k. I'll bleed it off
    pretty fast.

    This week we had some routine maintainence work done on the truck; air conditioner repair (return duct failed, had to be replace, area cleaned
    out); and upright freezer go into melt down mode (able to save a lot,
    decided to ditch some stuff). Don't know what the a/c cost, no cost for
    the freezer but do know credit card took a hit. We were supposed to be
    in VT this week so glad that trip was canceled so we could deal with the
    stuff here.



    The card is at 6.9% and pays cash back on any purchase (4% I think?).

    Ours does too but don't know how much. Do know we have some savings
    which will probably pay the card off next cycle.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jul 22 06:20:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    For many thieves a parked vehicle is an "op shop". They'll break in
    just to see if there's anything they can use/eat/drink/sell. I lock my
    car even in my own driveway.

    I know, we have a high value item in the car but the windows are tinted enough that it's not easily visible. And yes, we do lock the truck all
    the time, even in our driveway. The truck has an alarm and we live just off a fairly busy street so I don't think anybody would be dumb enough
    to venture a break in.

    We're tlking about druggies, derelicts and other free-lance anarchists
    here.

    I lock the car in the driveway and when I'm at a store or restaurant.
    Unless it's a quick in & out. Oddly, I don't feel the need to lock up
    at work. Probably because I parkin a "spaz spot" right out front and I
    can see the car clearly through the front window.

    Meanwhile, our fig tree is beginning its summer time bonanza out put.
    I'll probably make some preserves again this year; we've been giving
    away last year's out put. Those that we froze, were just turned into
    fig syrup.

    I'm 82 years old and I have never had a fresh fig. I'll have to correct
    that lack ..... I've only ever eaten Fig Newtons from a store bought pkg.

    A quick trip to the search engine tells me that fiss will not dowell
    in my groqing zone without lots of special help. Which may 'splain
    why they're not common around here.

    I really had to dig to find a recipe that looked tasty and did not use
    wine - which yu do not do - as an ingredient. Finally found this one:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Fig Brochettes w/Tapioca Cream
    Categories: Dairy, Grains, Fruits, Herbs
    Yield: 12 Servings

    8 c Milk
    5 Cinnamon sticks; broken in
    - pieces
    13 lg Egg yolks
    6 tb (lightly packed) light brown
    - sugar; more for dusting
    - the figs
    1/4 c Quick-cooking tapioca
    24 Black mission figs; halved
    24 Whole cinnamon sticks

    In a large saucepan, combine 4 cups of the milk and the
    cinnamon-stick pieces. Over medium-high heat, bring the
    milk just to a boil, remove from the heat, cover and
    allow to infuse for 10 minutes. Strain the mixture
    through a fine sieve, discard the cinnamon and return
    the milk to the pan.

    In a large bowl, whisk together the yolks and the sugar
    until thick and light-colored. Gradually whisk the hot
    milk into the yolk mixture. Return to the pan and cook
    over medium heat, stirring constantly with a wooden
    spoon until the mixture is slightly thickened and just
    coats the back of the spoon, about 15 to 20 minutes. (Do
    not allow it to boil.) Immediately remove from the heat
    and strain into a large, clean bowl. Cover with plastic
    wrap and refrigerate.

    In a large saucepan over medium-high heat, bring the
    remaining 4 cups of milk just to a boil. (If a skin
    forms on the milk, remove it with a spoon.) Sprinkle the
    tapioca over the milk and cook, stirring, until the
    mixture is thick and the tapioca pearls are translucent,
    about 15 to 20 minutes. Remove from the heat, cover and
    refrigerate. When chilled, combine with the custard.

    Heat the broiler. Skewer 2 fig halves on each cinnamon
    stick and place on a baking sheet. Sprinkle them with
    brown sugar and broil until the sugar is caramelized.
    Spoon the tapioca cream into serving dishes and top each
    with two warm brochettes.

    By: Molly O'Neill

    Yield: 12 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jul 22 06:26:00 2024
    Steve has mentioned cashing out an IRA to pay off the house but we've
    not done so yet. Soon getting to the point when we have to draw from it
    so we'll probably use that for extra house payments. We're paying extra
    on the principle every month so already have the mortgage about half
    paid.

    I got a link in one of my on-line news feeds the other day - so I
    followed it and found myself nodding my head often as I read it. Worth
    a read.

    https://www.forbes.com/advisor/mortgages/pay-off-your-mortgage-early/

    It's a matter of mathematics. Which is why I don't carry a balance on
    my credit cards. And it makes it easier to get a home equity loan. I needed one when I re-roofed the house, rebuilt the patio cover and had
    the tree removed that caused me to need to rebuild the cover.

    We don't carry a balance on our cards either. Couple of times when we
    had big projects (house siding, new heating/cooling unit), a windfall
    has come in at the same time to pay for it.

    Found money is *always* nice.

    Yes, but no such windfalls this week. Truck needed some routine work,
    a/c return failed and had to be replaced & system cleaned, then
    something in the upright freezer jammed the door just slightly open &
    iced up the system. Found that in time to rescue most everything, gave
    us a chance to weed out some stuff. Thankfully, Tricare for Life and Medicare covered my (specialist) doctor's appointment and we were able
    to use the camper (which has a/c) when the house got hot. Also, Steve
    got a bit of a discount on the truck work.

    Bruo (the BMW) is going to Eurosport on Wednesday to get its oil changed
    and some little, niggling, problems looked at. The worst is jumping out
    of gear whilst driving down the road. I suspect low transmission fluid -
    but, he's not "making his territory" (drips) and there's no dipstick for
    either the engine oil or transmission fluid.

    8<----- WHACK ----->8

    One time when we were at my parent's house, my brothers were talking
    about how good Mrs. Stouffer's lasagne is. Steve and I looked at each other with a "do they ever have lousy taste in food!" look. I guess it cmes naturally; my mom used to make lasagne with cottage cheese. I got
    my lasagne recipe from my Italian MIL. (G)

    It's all in what you're accustomed to, I suppose.

    Probably so, but once I got my MIL's recipe, I never looked at my
    mom's. Same as we said we'd make his mom's sauce & meatballs and my
    mom's meat sauce, then decide which to keep making. Made his mom's
    first, never made my mom's. (G)

    The Guineas around here used both ricotta and cottage cheese. And
    once in a while just small curd cottage cheese.

    Guess it depends on what area of Italy you're from.

    There are regional specialtiesd in nearly any cuisine.It's seldom the
    same all over the country. Bv)=

    True, Steve's mom's family is from the Calabrian region, the toe of the boot. Well known as stone cutters.

    Almost Swiss, then. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Swiss Chicken Casserole (Crock Pot)
    Categories: Poultry, Cheese, Soups, Dairy
    Yield: 6 Servings

    3 lb Boned, skinned chicken;
    - breasts or thighs
    6 sl Emmenthal Swiss cheese
    Mrs Dash seasoning salt
    10 3/4 oz Can cream of mushroom soup
    4 oz Can mushroom stems & pieces;
    - drained (opt)
    1/4 c Milk or Half & Half
    12 oz Seasoned stuffing mix; (2-6
    - ounce boxes)
    1 c Butter; melted

    Spray crock pot with non stick cooking spray.

    Arrange the chicken in crock pot.

    Sprinkle with seasoning salt.

    Top each piece of chicken with a cheese slice.

    Layer if necessary.

    Combine soup and milk (and mushrooms if using)
    and stir well.

    Spoon over mixture over chicken and cheese.

    Mix butter with stuffing mix.

    Sprinkle chicken with stuffing mix.

    Cover and cook on low for 8-10 hours or on high for 4-6
    hours.

    UDD NOTES: Made this with thighs. Doubled up on the
    stuffing and increased the butter as indicated in the
    *current* ingredient listing. Green beans w/onions and
    bacon make a great side dish with this.

    Yield: 6 servings

    Dawn's note: "Shared with me by a coworker. Another fix
    it and forget it recipe."

    Recipe from: http://www.food.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Sun Jul 21 16:33:22 2024
    Hi Shawn,


    After we were done, we went over to Trader Joe's,
    hadn't been there in several years. Picked up some goodies--dark
    chocolate covered coffee beans for Steve and dark chocolate covered
    mints & caramels for me. Also got some crackers and maple leaf
    cookies.

    Laugh, I just picked up maple leaf cookies on the weekend. Haven't
    had one in a few years and saw them while shopping hungry.... LOL

    Great minds........(G)

    We were supposed to be in Vermont late last week thru the end of this
    week, enjoying maple creemees and doing Vacation Bible School/community service. That trip didn't work out, good thing for us that it didn't, considering all that we had going on with the house. We would have been
    in upstate NY at the beginning of the week, visiting Steve's family and
    getting to VT about Friday. Last year when we went we ended up doing
    disaster relief from flooding as well as VBS; they had flooding again
    this year (to the exact same date/area of VT) but the trip that we'd
    initially thought we were going to go on was scheduled for a bit later
    in the month so we would have missed it.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jul 22 16:35:00 2024
    Hi Ruth,
    On <Mon, 21 Jul 24>, you wrote me:

    Haven't had one in a few years and saw them while shopping
    Great minds........(G)

    Exactly.

    us that it didn't, considering all that we had going on with the
    house. We would have been

    Yes seems you guys have had your fair share of problems this week.

    Shawn


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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Dave Drum on Mon Jul 22 16:08:23 2024
    Re: Towing the (Credit) Line
    By: Dave Drum to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Jul 20 2024 05:06 am

    Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    On credit cards, I carry often a small balance but under 1,000. Right now it's higher but just covered a roofing job and am miway on a chimney fix. It's about 3k and going up to 4k. I'll bleed it off pretty fast.

    The card is at 6.9% and pays cash back on any purchase (4% I think?).

    What is the APR though? My American Express has the best annual percentage rate of my cards and it's at 23.97% (jut looked). The monthly percentage doesn't sound bad - until you do the math.

    Last time I did home repairs I floated a home equity lona. I could have covered the new roof and patio cover and tree removal from my checking account 0 but I didn't want to go back to living paycheck to paycheck.

    So I did the loan at 4.5% APR - and still paid it off as soon as I could. Then I learned that the hoe-eq loan was, in fact, a second mortgage when
    I got the papers following pay-off.

    Still, general purpose credit cards have ony been around sine 1958 with
    the introduction of the Bank Americard - which became Visa. And the AMEX card.

    For me the cards are a convenience item. And they let me tell panhandlers "Sorry, bub. I'm all on plastic."

    This is as close to a Diner's Club recipe as I have ....

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Diner-Style Club Sandwich
    Categories: Poultry, Pork, Vegetables, Breads
    Yield: 2 servings

    6 sl Thin-cut bacon
    6 sl White bread; lightly toasted
    1/4 c Mayonnaise; more as needed
    2 lg Romaine or iceberg lettuce
    - leaves; more as needed
    1 (5 oz) beefsteak tomato;
    - thin sliced
    4 oz Thin-sliced roasted turkey
    Fine salt & black pepper
    Potato chips; toserve

    Position a rack in the middle of the oven; heat to
    425oF/218oC.

    Place a towel-lined platter near your workspace.

    Arrange the bacon strips in a single layer on a large,
    rimmed baking sheet and transfer to the oven (no need to
    wait for it to be preheated). Roast the bacon for 18 to
    20 minutes, or until it is crisped. Transfer to the
    prepared platter and break each strip in half.

    UDD NOTE: You can microwave your bacon in a 1000 watt
    or more powerful oven for 5 minutes using a microwave
    safe platter and paper towels.

    While the bacon is roasting, gather and prepare the
    remaining sandwich ingredients: the bread, mayonnaise,
    lettuce, tomato, turkey, and salt and pepper.

    To assemble the sandwiches, generously spread the
    mayonnaise on one side of each of the bread slices. Cut
    the lettuce leaves into 4 pieces, so they will fit
    neatly on the bread.

    Place a lettuce leaf on 2 of the slices; top each with a
    tomato slice, then 3 bacon halves and a quarter of the
    turkey, and season lightly with salt and pepper. Top
    with a second slice of bread, mayonnaise side down.
    Gently spread mayonnaise on the top slice of bread.
    Repeat layering the ingredients in the same order on top
    of this slice of bread. Cover the sandwiches with the
    final slice of bread, mayonnaise side down. Gently press
    down on each sandwich and use 4 toothpicks to secure the
    sandwich layers in 4 equally spaced spots, pressing all
    the way through the bottom slice of bread. Using a
    serrated knife, cut each sandwich diagonally, into 4
    triangular pieces (each piece should be secured in the
    center with a toothpick).

    Arrange the sandwiches on plates and serve with potato
    chips.

    From: Ann Maloney.

    Makes: 2 double-decker sandwiches

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.washingtonpost.com

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    6.9% APR as quoted. A good deal I locked in long ago. Hasn't changed.

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jul 22 17:00:44 2024
    Re: Towing the Line was: Chic
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Jul 20 2024 11:42 am

    Hi Carol,


    On credit cards, I carry often a small balance but under 1,000. Right now it's higher but just covered a roofing job and am miway on a chimney fix. It's about 3k and going up to 4k. I'll bleed it off pretty fast.

    This week we had some routine maintainence work done on the truck; air conditioner repair (return duct failed, had to be replace, area cleaned out); and upright freezer go into melt down mode (able to save a lot, decided to ditch some stuff). Don't know what the a/c cost, no cost for
    the freezer but do know credit card took a hit. We were supposed to be
    in VT this week so glad that trip was canceled so we could deal with the stuff here.



    The card is at 6.9% and pays cash back on any purchase (4% I think?).

    Ours does too but don't know how much. Do know we have some savings
    which will probably pay the card off next cycle.


    I'll be close at end of month on it. Probably 2 months from now to payoff? Ih

    I have available cash now but it's my emergency funds.

    xxcarol
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  • From Matthew Munson@1:218/109 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Jul 20 19:21:48 2024
    BY: Carol Shenkenberger (1:275/100)

    The card is at 6.9% and pays cash back on any purchase (4% I think?).

    Thats a dreamy apr. my lowest is 13.15


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Jul 23 11:51:49 2024
    Hi Dave,

    I know, we have a high value item in the car but the windows are tinted enough that it's not easily visible. And yes, we do lock the truck all
    the time, even in our driveway. The truck has an alarm and we live just off a fairly busy street so I don't think anybody would be dumb enough
    to venture a break in.

    We're tlking about druggies, derelicts and other free-lance anarchists here.

    They don't frequent our part of town.


    I lock the car in the driveway and when I'm at a store or restaurant. Unless it's a quick in & out. Oddly, I don't feel the need to lock up
    at work. Probably because I parkin a "spaz spot" right out front and I
    can see the car clearly through the front window.

    We sometimes, if we're just going to run into the house/back out in a
    minute, don't bother to lock the truck. Otherwise, it is locked any time
    it's left alone, no matter how long or short a time. We don't have a
    handicap tag (yet) but will probably end up with one eventually.


    Meanwhile, our fig tree is beginning its summer time bonanza out put.
    I'll probably make some preserves again this year; we've been giving
    away last year's out put. Those that we froze, were just turned into
    fig syrup.

    I'm 82 years old and I have never had a fresh fig. I'll have to
    correct that lack ..... I've only ever eaten Fig Newtons from a store bought pkg.

    They are good; a Newton will give you a bit of the taste but nothing
    like eating one fresh off the tree. Rinsed but still warm from the sun.

    A quick trip to the search engine tells me that fiss will not
    dowell DD> in my groqing zone without lots of special help. Which may
    'splain DD> why they're not common around here.

    And we're in a great spot for them. Steve planted another tree to be
    last year so in a few years we'll have a super abundance of them.

    I really had to dig to find a recipe that looked tasty and did not use wine - which yu do not do - as an ingredient. Finally found this one:


    Title: Fig Brochettes w/Tapioca Cream
    Categories: Dairy, Grains, Fruits, Herbs
    Yield: 12 Servings

    Thanks, looks interesting--and a way to use part of the bumper crop. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Jul 23 12:11:04 2024
    Hi Dave,

    We don't carry a balance on our cards either. Couple of times when we
    had big projects (house siding, new heating/cooling unit), a windfall
    has come in at the same time to pay for it.

    Found money is *always* nice.

    Yes, but no such windfalls this week. Truck needed some routine work,
    a/c return failed and had to be replaced & system cleaned, then
    something in the upright freezer jammed the door just slightly open &
    iced up the system. Found that in time to rescue most everything, gave
    us a chance to weed out some stuff. Thankfully, Tricare for Life and Medicare covered my (specialist) doctor's appointment and we were able
    to use the camper (which has a/c) when the house got hot. Also, Steve
    got a bit of a discount on the truck work.

    Bruo (the BMW) is going to Eurosport on Wednesday to get its oil
    changed and some little, niggling, problems looked at. The worst is jumping out of gear whilst driving down the road. I suspect low transmission fluid - but, he's not "making his territory" (drips) and there's no dipstick for either the engine oil or transmission fluid.

    Hopefully nothing too serious. Steve dropped off the camper today for
    the work that needs doing, and hopefully covered by insurance.

    8<----- WHACK ----->8

    The Guineas around here used both ricotta and cottage cheese. And
    once in a while just small curd cottage cheese.

    Guess it depends on what area of Italy you're from.

    There are regional specialtiesd in nearly any cuisine.It's seldom the
    same all over the country. Bv)=

    True, Steve's mom's family is from the Calabrian region, the toe of the boot. Well known as stone cutters.

    Almost Swiss, then. Bv)=

    No, closer to Sicily. Switzerland is up near the top of the boot.


    Title: Swiss Chicken Casserole (Crock Pot)
    Categories: Poultry, Cheese, Soups, Dairy
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Nice an easy.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Tue Jul 23 12:21:41 2024
    Hi Shawn,

    Haven't had one in a few years and saw them while shopping
    Great minds........(G)

    Exactly.

    Hard to do but we're limiting ourselves to one at a time. (G)


    us that it didn't, considering all that we had going on with the
    house. We would have been

    Yes seems you guys have had your fair share of problems this week.

    Doing much better this week, took the camper in for the needed repair
    work today. Insurance should cover most all of that. Meanwhile, temps
    have cooled off a bit but we're still going to be doing a lot of
    grilling. It's nicer to add heat to the outside air than to heat up the
    house. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Tue Jul 23 12:26:57 2024
    Hi Carol,

    This week we had some routine maintainence work done on the truck; air conditioner repair (return duct failed, had to be replace, area cleaned out); and upright freezer go into melt down mode (able to save a lot, decided to ditch some stuff). Don't know what the a/c cost, no cost for
    the freezer but do know credit card took a hit. We were supposed to be
    in VT this week so glad that trip was canceled so we could deal with the stuff here.

    The card is at 6.9% and pays cash back on any purchase (4% I think?).

    Ours does too but don't know how much. Do know we have some savings
    which will probably pay the card off next cycle.


    I'll be close at end of month on it. Probably 2 months from now to payoff? Ih

    Always a good feeling to have it paid off. We ran up one card quite a
    bit when we were in AZ the year Steve was in Korea and Rachel got
    married (actually about 16 months, bit over a year) but paid it all off,
    bit by bit. Had (still have) a low interest card; at one point I talked
    them into dropping the interest by 1% as a loyal customer.

    I have available cash now but it's my emergency funds.

    I do too, "bug out" money in case we need to hit the road to avoid a
    storm and can't use credit cards if machines are down.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jul 25 07:08:00 2024
    Hi Ruth,
    On <Wed, 23 Jul 24>, you wrote me:

    Doing much better this week, took the camper in for the needed repair
    work today. Insurance should cover most all of that. Meanwhile, temps
    have cooled off a bit but we're still going to be doing a lot of
    grilling. It's nicer to add heat to the outside air than to heat up
    the house. (G)

    Yes the heat broke here too last night. I can actually move this morning without being bent over like an old man.

    I'm going to head to the woods after work today... I'm hoping to do
    some grilling this "weekend" but we have so much going on with getting
    the apartment ready for our Son and my FIL to move in, I may not stay
    long.

    Shawn


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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jul 25 07:06:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    We don't carry a balance on our cards either. Couple of times
    when we had big projects (house siding, new heating/cooling
    unit), a windfall has come in at the same time to pay for it.

    Found money is *always* nice.

    Yes, but no such windfalls this week. Truck needed some routine work,
    a/c return failed and had to be replaced & system cleaned, then
    something in the upright freezer jammed the door just slightly open &
    iced up the system. Found that in time to rescue most everything, gave
    us a chance to weed out some stuff. Thankfully, Tricare for Life and Medicare covered my (specialist) doctor's appointment and we were able
    to use the camper (which has a/c) when the house got hot. Also, Steve
    got a bit of a discount on the truck work.

    Serviceman (current/former) and first responders get discounts in many
    places. AutoZone gives 10% - if they ask. If they are in uniform I hit
    the "DISCOUNT" tab automatically.

    Bruo (the BMW) is going to Eurosport on Wednesday to get its oil
    changed and some little, niggling, problems looked at. The worst is jumping out of gear whilst driving down the road. I suspect low transmission fluid - but, he's not "making his territory" (drips) and there's no dipstick for either the engine oil or transmission fluid.

    Hopefully nothing too serious. Steve dropped off the camper today
    for the work that needs doing, and hopefully covered by insurance.

    They kept it overnight waiting for a call-back from BMW as they had to
    ask for help. Hopefully I'll get the car back today - even if they have
    to wait for parts.

    8<----- WHACK ----->8

    The Guineas around here used both ricotta and cottage cheese. And
    once in a while just small curd cottage cheese.

    Guess it depends on what area of Italy you're from.

    There are regional specialtiesd in nearly any cuisine.It's seldom the
    same all over the country. Bv)=

    True, Steve's mom's family is from the Calabrian region, the toe of the boot. Well known as stone cutters.

    Almost Swiss, then. Bv)=

    No, closer to Sicily. Switzerland is up near the top of the boot.

    Sorry you said to and my mind read top. Bv)= Senior moment.

    Title: Swiss Chicken Casserole (Crock Pot)
    Categories: Poultry, Cheese, Soups, Dairy
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Nice an easy.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Sicilian Beef One Pot
    Categories: Beef, Mushrooms, Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 4 servings

    1/2 c A-P flour
    1 ts Salt; divided
    1/4 ts Black pepper
    2 1/2 lb Beef stew meat; trimmed
    4 tb Oil; divided
    1 lb Fresh mushrooms; quartered
    1 lg Green bell pepper; chopped
    1 lg Onion; chopped
    2 cl Garlic; minced
    1 3/4 c Beef broth
    26 oz Jar spaghetti sauce
    28 oz Can diced tomatoes;
    - undrained

    In a shallow dish, combine the flour, 1/2 teaspoon salt,
    and the black pepper. Roll beef in flour mixture,
    coating completely. In a soup pot, heat 3 tablespoons
    oil over high heat until hot; brown beef on all sides
    for 5 minutes.

    Remove beef from pot; set aside. Add mushrooms, bell
    pepper, onion, garlic, and remaining 1 tablespoon oil to
    pot, and cook 5 minutes, or until onions are tender,
    stirring occasionally.

    Add remaining ingredients, including remaining 1/2
    teaspoon salt; return beef to pot and bring to a boil.
    Reduce heat to low and simmer 1-1/2 to 2 hours, or until
    beef is fork-tender, stirring occasionally.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.mrfood.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jul 25 07:46:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Hi Dave,

    I know, we have a high value item in the car but the windows are tinted enough that it's not easily visible. And yes, we do lock the truck all
    the time, even in our driveway. The truck has an alarm and we live just off a fairly busy street so I don't think anybody would be dumb enough
    to venture a break in.

    We're tlking about druggies, derelicts and other free-lance anarchists here.

    They don't frequent our part of town.

    At least not the obvious ones.

    I lock the car in the driveway and when I'm at a store or restaurant. Unless it's a quick in & out. Oddly, I don't feel the need to lock up
    at work. Probably because I parkin a "spaz spot" right out front and I
    can see the car clearly through the front window.

    We sometimes, if we're just going to run into the house/back out in a minute, don't bother to lock the truck. Otherwise, it is locked any
    time it's left alone, no matter how long or short a time. We don't have
    a handicap tag (yet) but will probably end up with one eventually.

    I've had one for years - and they do make it convenient. Especially as
    the curbside spots are usually ramped. And I have trouble with curbs -
    both up and down - unless I have my cane or there is something to hold
    on to to keep me steady. This getting old lark is not for wusses.

    Meanwhile, our fig tree is beginning its summer time bonanza out put.
    I'll probably make some preserves again this year; we've been giving

    My grandparents had apple, cherry, apricot, paw-pae and crabapple trees
    in the back yard of their town home. And a regular orchard at the farm
    with more apples, peaches, cherries, pears and blackberry brables as well
    as raspberries on the other side of the orhard. Gooseberies and May apples
    were available in the woods.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Shemp's Waffles w/Cherry Sauce
    Categories: Breads, Fruits, Citrus, Sauces, Dairy
    Yield: 3 Servings

    MMMMM------------------------CHERRY SAUCE-----------------------------
    1/4 c Sugar
    2 ts Cornstarch
    1/8 ts Cinnamon
    1/2 c Orange juice
    2 c Sweet cherries; pitted,
    - halved
    1 ts Grated orange peel
    Sweetened whipped cream

    MMMMM--------------------------WAFFLES-------------------------------
    2 c Flour
    2 tb Sugar
    1 1/2 ts Baking powder
    1/2 ts Salt
    2 c Milk
    1/2 c Melted butter
    4 lg Eggs separated

    For Cherry Sauce: Combine sugar, cornstarch and cinnamon;
    add orange juice, cherries and orange peel. Bring to boil
    over medium high heat; boil until thickened. Serve warm
    cherry sauce over waffles; top with sweetened whipped
    cream.

    For Waffles: Combine flour, sugar, baking powder & salt.
    Combine milk, melted butter and egg yolks. Add to dry
    ingredients; stir just to moisten. Fold in stiffly beaten
    egg whites. Bake in waffle iron according to maker's
    directions.

    Makes 3 (or more) waffles

    UDD Notes: These are the old-fashion waffles. NOT the
    puffy "Belgian" waffles. Cherry preserves will work
    just fine if you're not up for making the sauce. Or,
    like me, just bone lazy.

    From: http://www.threestooges.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

    away last year's out put. Those that we froze, were just turned into
    fig syrup.

    I'm 82 years old and I have never had a fresh fig. I'll have to
    correct that lack ..... I've only ever eaten Fig Newtons from a store bought pkg.

    They are good; a Newton will give you a bit of the taste but nothing
    like eating one fresh off the tree. Rinsed but still warm from the sun.

    I'll ask the folks down Jeffries Orchard farm stand about the availability.

    My grandparents' home had apple, apricot and paw-paw in the back yard.
    And the farm had an small orchard with peach, cherry and apple trees
    as well as a blackberry patch and a raspberry patch. Gooseberries and
    May apples were harvested in the woods.

    I had a cherry tree in my front yard until the derecho winds hit last
    July.

    A quick trip to the search engine tells me that fiss will not
    dowell DD> in my groqing zone without lots of special help. Which may
    'splain DD> why they're not common around here.

    And we're in a great spot for them. Steve planted another tree to be
    last year so in a few years we'll have a super abundance of them.

    From my research they aren't huge trees like maples or oaks.

    I really had to dig to find a recipe that looked tasty and did not use wine - which yu do not do - as an ingredient. Finally found this one:

    Title: Fig Brochettes w/Tapioca Cream
    Categories: Dairy, Grains, Fruits, Herbs
    Yield: 12 Servings

    Thanks, looks interesting--and a way to use part of the bumper crop.
    (G)


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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Matthew Munson on Thu Jul 25 16:32:46 2024
    Re: Re: Towing the Line was: Chic
    By: Matthew Munson to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Jul 20 2024 07:21 pm

    BY: Carol Shenkenberger (1:275/100)

    The card is at 6.9% and pays cash back on any purchase (4% I think?).

    Thats a dreamy apr. my lowest is 13.15


    That it is! I use it in place of a loan for things.

    xxcarol

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Thu Jul 25 13:12:45 2024
    Hi Shawn,


    Doing much better this week, took the camper in for the needed repair
    work today. Insurance should cover most all of that. Meanwhile, temps
    have cooled off a bit but we're still going to be doing a lot of
    grilling. It's nicer to add heat to the outside air than to heat up
    the house. (G)

    Yes the heat broke here too last night. I can actually move this
    morning without being bent over like an old man.

    We have a yard service; he'd not come in about 3 weeks and the grass was beginning to dry out. Steve did some watering and now the rains have
    come (some, most days, a lot today). The lawn had perked up and was a
    nice green when he came on Monday. With the rain, it's almost as high as
    it was just before it was cut.


    I'm going to head to the woods after work today... I'm hoping to do
    some grilling this "weekend" but we have so much going on with getting
    the apartment ready for our Son and my FIL to move in, I may not stay long.

    Some time isbetter than none. Are you planning to move out to the woods
    on a long term basis?

    We bought a chicken from Sam's Club and Steve grilled a rack of ribs
    late last week so we're eating off of them, reheating as desired in the microwave. Right now the temperature is only 75; I could almost bake
    something in the big oven without heating up the house too much. I think
    we'll work on left overs tho. (G)


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Jul 25 13:29:41 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Medicare covered my (specialist) doctor's appointment and we were able
    to use the camper (which has a/c) when the house got hot. Also, Steve
    got a bit of a discount on the truck work.

    Serviceman (current/former) and first responders get discounts in many places. AutoZone gives 10% - if they ask. If they are in uniform I hit
    the "DISCOUNT" tab automatically.

    We get it at quite a few places, sometimes coded at the register as a
    "senior" discount. Of course Steve's grey hair is a give away there that
    he's entitled to that one. (G) One nice thing about the Michael's craft
    store chain--they give the discount to spouses of retirees also.


    Bruo (the BMW) is going to Eurosport on Wednesday to get its oil
    changed and some little, niggling, problems looked at. The worst is jumping out of gear whilst driving down the road. I suspect low transmission fluid - but, he's not "making his territory" (drips) and there's no dipstick for either the engine oil or transmission fluid.

    Hopefully nothing too serious. Steve dropped off the camper today
    for the work that needs doing, and hopefully covered by insurance.

    They kept it overnight waiting for a call-back from BMW as they had to
    ask for help. Hopefully I'll get the car back today - even if they
    have to wait for parts.

    All the parts are in for the camper and it is up at the RV place; they
    said they'll begin work next week. Next trip isn't planned until late
    September but we may do a local one if we get it back soon.

    8<----- WHACK ----->8

    Guess it depends on what area of Italy you're from.

    There are regional specialtiesd in nearly any cuisine.It's seldom the
    same all over the country. Bv)=

    True, Steve's mom's family is from the Calabrian region, the toe of the boot. Well known as stone cutters.

    Almost Swiss, then. Bv)=

    No, closer to Sicily. Switzerland is up near the top of the boot.

    Sorry you said to and my mind read top. Bv)= Senior moment.

    Understandable. We've spent some enjoyable time in Switzerland when we
    were stationed in Germany. Used to camp in Interlaken with friends; we'd
    bring marshmallows and graham crackers but buy the chocolate down there.
    One year we introduced (American) missionary kids living in France to
    S'mores.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Jul 26 09:55:19 2024
    Hi Dave,

    We're tlking about druggies, derelicts and other free-lance anarchists here.

    They don't frequent our part of town.

    At least not the obvious ones.

    True, may be some but well hidden.

    time it's left alone, no matter how long or short a time. We don't have
    a handicap tag (yet) but will probably end up with one eventually.

    I've had one for years - and they do make it convenient. Especially as
    the curbside spots are usually ramped. And I have trouble with curbs - both up and down - unless I have my cane or there is something to hold
    on to to keep me steady. This getting old lark is not for wusses.

    Meanwhile, our fig tree is beginning its summer time bonanza out put.
    I'll probably make some preserves again this year; we've been giving

    My grandparents had apple, cherry, apricot, paw-pae and crabapple
    trees in the back yard of their town home. And a regular orchard at
    the farm
    with more apples, peaches, cherries, pears and blackberry brables as
    well as raspberries on the other side of the orhard. Gooseberies and
    May apples were available in the woods.

    So putting up was a big production in the summer. Steve had a bowl full
    (about 2 1/2 quarts) in the fridge so yesterday he pulled out the
    dehydrator. Dried them down to maybe about 2 cups. We'll probably do
    another batch or 2 in the dehydrator before the tree ends production, in probably early September.


    I'm 82 years old and I have never had a fresh fig. I'll have to
    correct that lack ..... I've only ever eaten Fig Newtons from a store bought pkg.

    They are good; a Newton will give you a bit of the taste but nothing
    like eating one fresh off the tree. Rinsed but still warm from the sun.

    I'll ask the folks down Jeffries Orchard farm stand about the availability.

    Do so, it's an ancient fruit; I think more popular in the southern US
    than the northern. Fig preserves and a brie type cheese on a cracker
    make a nice nibble. Last year when we took some preserves out to our
    daughters, I told the grand kids that these were special, for their mothers,(mom was to share), not to be used like regular jelly/jam for
    pb&j or whatever.


    I had a cherry tree in my front yard until the derecho winds hit last July.

    My parents had one for years, until a storm did it in. It happened just
    before we came up for a visit so Steve saved some of the wood for his
    smoker.

    A quick trip to the search engine tells me that fiss will not
    dowell DD> in my groqing zone without lots of special help. Which may
    'splain DD> why they're not common around here.

    And we're in a great spot for them. Steve planted another tree to be
    last year so in a few years we'll have a super abundance of them.

    From my research they aren't huge trees like maples or oaks.

    No, more like a bush. BTW, I was informed that the 2nd tree didn't make
    it so we only have to one, but a very prolific one.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jul 27 06:47:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Meanwhile, our fig tree is beginning its summer time bonanza out put.
    I'll probably make some preserves again this year; we've been giving

    My grandparents had apple, cherry, apricot, paw-pae and crabapple
    trees in the back yard of their town home. And a regular orchard at
    the farm with more apples, peaches, cherries, pears and blackberry brambles as well as raspberries on the other side of the orhard. Gooseberies and May apples were available in the woods.

    So putting up was a big production in the summer. Steve had a bowl full (about 2 1/2 quarts) in the fridge so yesterday he pulled out the dehydrator. Dried them down to maybe about 2 cups. We'll probably do another batch or 2 in the dehydrator before the tree ends production,
    in probably early September.

    The degydrator is nice. I use mine mostly for chilies - and the aroma
    that permeates the house is a great appetite stimulant.

    I'm 82 years old and I have never had a fresh fig. I'll have to
    correct that lack ..... I've only ever eaten Fig Newtons from a store bought pkg.

    They are good; a Newton will give you a bit of the taste but nothing
    like eating one fresh off the tree. Rinsed but still warm from the sun.

    I'll ask the folks down Jeffries Orchard farm stand about the availability.

    Do so, it's an ancient fruit; I think more popular in the southern US
    than the northern. Fig preserves and a brie type cheese on a cracker
    make a nice nibble. Last year when we took some preserves out to our daughters, I told the grand kids that these were special, for their mothers,(mom was to share), not to be used like regular jelly/jam for
    pb&j or whatever.

    Probably because the fig trees do not do well in the Northern climate
    zones. I did some readig on what it takes to have a successful fig crop
    in my area. YIKES!!! I'll buy figs that have been shipped in, Thenkew
    veddy much. Bv)=

    I had a cherry tree in my front yard until the derecho winds hit last July.

    My parents had one for years, until a storm did it in. It happened just before we came up for a visit so Steve saved some of the wood for his smoker.

    My tree service guy salvaged all the wood except the small branches for
    his son's smoker. AFAIK I've never had cherry smoked anything. I have,
    however, used grapevine cutting to smoke a chuck roast very successfully.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Grapevine Smoked Chuck Roast
    Categories: Five, Beef, Bbq
    Yield: 6 Servings

    3 lb Chuck roast
    Garlic powder
    Salt and Pepper
    Grapevines for smoke

    After pruning the family's Concord grape vines, I
    decided to use a few trimmings to make grapevine smoked
    chuck roast on my gas grill. I'd never used grapevines
    to smoke food before, so it was the perfect opportunity
    to experiment with this new smoking wood.

    I decided to use a chuck roast for two reasons. First,
    it was a relatively inexpensive cut of meat. If the
    grapevine smoke ruined the meat, the loss wouldn't be
    that great. And second, beef chuck contains quite a bit
    of fat and connective tissue, which adds to juiciness
    and flavor. And I like juice and flavor!

    Season the roast lightly on all sides with the salt,
    pepper and garlic powder. Cover it and let it set at
    room temp. Set up your grill for smoking, heating it
    to 250ºF/120ºC. The pieces of grapevine can be wrapped
    in a foil pouch, or put in a bread pan covered with
    foil, and placed over one of the burners set on high.

    When the grapevines begin to smoke, turn the burner
    under the grapevines down to medium, then pop the
    chuck roast into the grill and close 'er up. After
    one and one-half hours at 250ºF/120ºC, wrap the roast
    in a double layer of aluminum foil and place it back
    in the grill. Increase the grill temperature to 350ºF/
    175ºC degrees and continue cooking for another 1 1/2
    hours.

    Remove the grapevine smoked chuck roast and let it
    rest, still wrapped in foil, for 20 to 30 minutes.
    After the rest, it can be sliced for great tasting
    sandwiches. A little homemade barbecue sauce would
    be a nice finishing touch.

    From: http://www.smoker-cooking.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jul 27 08:04:00 2024
    Hi Ruth,
    On <Fri, 25 Jul 24>, you wrote me:

    We have a yard service; he'd not come in about 3 weeks and the grass

    One chore I hate with a passion is cutting the grass. Thankfully my lawn is small so it doesn't take more thne 15 mins,

    was a nice green when he came on Monday. With the rain, it's almost
    as high as it was just before it was cut.

    That's nice when it happens.

    woods on a long term basis?

    We're in a seasonal trailer park so Mother's Day (Can) to Thanksgiving (can) are when we're allowed in. Having said that when all the people are moved in to the apartment, I'm probably going to be staying here most days jsut so I have
    some time to myself.

    We bought a chicken from Sam's Club and Steve grilled a rack of ribs
    late last week so we're eating off of them, reheating as desired in
    the microwave. Right now the temperature is only 75; I could almost
    bake something in the big oven without heating up the house too much. we'll work on left overs tho. (G)

    Our Grandson came to visit yesterday so we had Hot Dogs last night. :)
    I enjoy one every now and again. Andrea also brought a nice store made
    salad and fruit tray so we ate pretty darn well! Left over dogs will be used instead of Bacon with our eggs when the rest of them wake up. :)

    Shawn

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jul 27 13:07:11 2024
    Re: Towing the Line [1]
    By: Ruth Haffly to Dave Drum on Fri Jul 26 2024 09:55 am

    Hi Dave,

    We're tlking about druggies, derelicts and other free-lance anarchists here.

    They don't frequent our part of town.

    At least not the obvious ones.

    True, may be some but well hidden.

    time it's left alone, no matter how long or short a time. We don't have a handicap tag (yet) but will probably end up with one eventually.

    I've had one for years - and they do make it convenient. Especially as the curbside spots are usually ramped. And I have trouble with curbs - both up and down - unless I have my cane or there is something to hold on to to keep me steady. This getting old lark is not for wusses.

    Meanwhile, our fig tree is beginning its summer time bonanza out put. I'll probably make some preserves again this year; we've been giving

    My grandparents had apple, cherry, apricot, paw-pae and crabapple
    trees in the back yard of their town home. And a regular orchard at
    the farm
    with more apples, peaches, cherries, pears and blackberry brables as well as raspberries on the other side of the orhard. Gooseberies and May apples were available in the woods.

    So putting up was a big production in the summer. Steve had a bowl full (about 2 1/2 quarts) in the fridge so yesterday he pulled out the dehydrator. Dried them down to maybe about 2 cups. We'll probably do
    another batch or 2 in the dehydrator before the tree ends production, in probably early September.


    I'm 82 years old and I have never had a fresh fig. I'll have to
    correct that lack ..... I've only ever eaten Fig Newtons from a store bought pkg.

    They are good; a Newton will give you a bit of the taste but nothing like eating one fresh off the tree. Rinsed but still warm from the sun.

    I'll ask the folks down Jeffries Orchard farm stand about the availability.

    Do so, it's an ancient fruit; I think more popular in the southern US
    than the northern. Fig preserves and a brie type cheese on a cracker
    make a nice nibble. Last year when we took some preserves out to our daughters, I told the grand kids that these were special, for their mothers,(mom was to share), not to be used like regular jelly/jam for
    pb&j or whatever.


    I had a cherry tree in my front yard until the derecho winds hit last July.

    My parents had one for years, until a storm did it in. It happened just before we came up for a visit so Steve saved some of the wood for his smoker.

    A quick trip to the search engine tells me that fiss will not
    dowell DD> in my groqing zone without lots of special help. Which may
    'splain DD> why they're not common around here.

    And we're in a great spot for them. Steve planted another tree to be last year so in a few years we'll have a super abundance of them.

    From my research they aren't huge trees like maples or oaks.

    No, more like a bush. BTW, I was informed that the 2nd tree didn't make
    it so we only have to one, but a very prolific one.



    Figs love VB! Tons of them here. Fig farming has become 'a thing'. I often trade apples for them.

    This years apple crop looks to be 1.5 bushels. I'm going to practice making apple cider. I'm all setup now for it.

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jul 27 16:18:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Medicare covered my (specialist) doctor's appointment and we were able
    to use the camper (which has a/c) when the house got hot. Also, Steve
    got a bit of a discount on the truck work.

    Serviceman (current/former) and first responders get discounts in many places. AutoZone gives 10% - if they ask. If they are in uniform I hit
    the "DISCOUNT" tab automatically.

    We get it at quite a few places, sometimes coded at the register as a "senior" discount. Of course Steve's grey hair is a give away there
    that he's entitled to that one. (G) One nice thing about the Michael's craft store chain--they give the discount to spouses of retirees also.

    Hardee's/Carl's Jr. of the fats food places mhere gives a 10% senior spiff. But, you may have to remind the clerk the deduct the amount.

    Bruno (the BMW) is going to Eurosport on Wednesday to get its oil
    changed and some little, niggling, problems looked at. The worst is jumping out of gear whilst driving down the road. I suspect low transmission fluid - but, he's not "making his territory" (drips) and there's no dipstick for either the engine oil or transmission fluid.

    Hopefully nothing too serious. Steve dropped off the camper today
    for the work that needs doing, and hopefully covered by insurance.

    They kept it overnight waiting for a call-back from BMW as they had to
    ask for help. Hopefully I'll get the car back today - even if they
    have to wait for parts.

    Turned out that a wonky igition coil was the cause of the transmission
    shiftig to neutral. Which is bizarre i my experience. But, that's why I
    get my service done at Eurosport. They have (or can get) the solutions
    to my problems. And it turned out that the coils from BMW were actually
    le$$ that the aftermarket units from AutoZone. Which does't hapen often.

    All the parts are in for the camper and it is up at the RV place; they said they'll begin work next week. Next trip isn't planned until late September but we may do a local one if we get it back soon.

    There's some pretty territory oven in the west end of your state. And
    a bit of history revolving around the moonshiners and reveners.

    8<----- WHACK ----->8

    Guess it depends on what area of Italy you're from.

    There are regional specialtiesd in nearly any cuisine.It's seldom the
    same all over the country. Bv)=

    True, Steve's mom's family is from the Calabrian region, the toe of the boot. Well known as stone cutters.

    Almost Swiss, then. Bv)=

    No, closer to Sicily. Switzerland is up near the top of the boot.

    Sorry you said to and my mind read top. Bv)= Senior moment.

    Understandable. We've spent some enjoyable time in Switzerland when we were stationed in Germany. Used to camp in Interlaken with friends;
    we'd bring marshmallows and graham crackers but buy the chocolate down there. One year we introduced (American) missionary kids living in
    France to S'mores.

    I sort of envy you guys the travel you got on Uncle Sugar's nickle. I
    spent my whole enlistment after boot camp at the Naval Air Station in Millington, Tn. Did fly around the world once on a "training" flight.
    Saw a lot of blue water and cloud passing under out aero-chine. And
    found that the inside of one military air field is much like any other
    right down to the mess hall.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Navy S.O.S. (Minced Beef)
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables
    Yield: 10 Servings

    2 lb Ground Beef
    1/8 lb Onions, chopped
    3 oz General purpose flour
    32 oz Can crushed tomatoes
    1/8 oz Mace; ground
    +=OR=+
    1/8 oz Nutmeg; ground
    1/8 oz (ea) Salt & Pepper

    Cook beef with onions in its own fat until beef loses
    its pink color, stirring to break apart. Drain or skim
    off excess fat. (Or not - UDD)

    Sprinkle flour over beef; continue cooking until flour
    is absorbed.

    Add tomatoes, mace or nutmeg, salt and pepper. Stir
    well. Simmer 10 to 15 minutes.

    Serve over toast, biscuits, rice or pasta.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jul 27 13:37:01 2024
    Hi Dave,


    My grandparents had apple, cherry, apricot, paw-pae and crabapple
    trees in the back yard of their town home. And a regular orchard at
    the farm with more apples, peaches, cherries, pears and blackberry brambles as well as raspberries on the other side of the orhard. Gooseberies and May apples were available in the woods.

    So putting up was a big production in the summer. Steve had a bowl full (about 2 1/2 quarts) in the fridge so yesterday he pulled out the dehydrator. Dried them down to maybe about 2 cups. We'll probably do another batch or 2 in the dehydrator before the tree ends production,
    in probably early September.

    The degydrator is nice. I use mine mostly for chilies - and the aroma
    that permeates the house is a great appetite stimulant.

    I would imagine it would smell nice and spicy. We dehydrated another
    couple of trays of figs yesterday, bringing that jar to about 4
    cups--and more figs still to come.

    After our freezer melt down, I decided to consolidate all of my odds and
    ends of herbs and spices I'd kept in both freezers into one. Thanks to
    my MIL cleaning out her supply a while back and our stock of bulk
    Penzy's bags, there are some I won't need to buy for the rest of my
    life. There's room for more stuff in the fridge freezer but a bit less
    room in the big freezer.(G)

    I'm 82 years old and I have never had a fresh fig. I'll have to
    correct that lack ..... I've only ever eaten Fig Newtons from a store bought pkg.

    They are good; a Newton will give you a bit of the taste but nothing
    like eating one fresh off the tree. Rinsed but still warm from the sun.

    I'll ask the folks down Jeffries Orchard farm stand about the availability.

    Do so, it's an ancient fruit; I think more popular in the southern US
    than the northern. Fig preserves and a brie type cheese on a cracker
    make a nice nibble. Last year when we took some preserves out to our daughters, I told the grand kids that these were special, for their mothers,(mom was to share), not to be used like regular jelly/jam for
    pb&j or whatever.

    Probably because the fig trees do not do well in the Northern climate zones. I did some readig on what it takes to have a successful fig
    crop in my area. YIKES!!! I'll buy figs that have been shipped in,
    Thenkew veddy much. Bv)=

    That's OK. If we ever get out that way, I can drop off either some dried
    figs or preserves in the off season, fresh figs in July/August.


    I had a cherry tree in my front yard until the derecho winds hit last July.

    My parents had one for years, until a storm did it in. It happened just before we came up for a visit so Steve saved some of the wood for his smoker.

    My tree service guy salvaged all the wood except the small branches
    for his son's smoker. AFAIK I've never had cherry smoked anything. I
    have,
    however, used grapevine cutting to smoke a chuck roast very
    successfully.

    Other than things smoked tasting good, I don't recall anything specific
    about it. IIRC,the wood was probably used to smoke turkeys and Boston
    butts.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Sat Jul 27 13:56:19 2024
    Hi Shawn,

    We have a yard service; he'd not come in about 3 weeks and the grass

    One chore I hate with a passion is cutting the grass. Thankfully my
    lawn is small so it doesn't take more thne 15 mins,

    We own about .28/acre, not really enough to justify buying a riding
    mower but takes a while to do with a push mower. Your lawn sounds like
    the one we had in Savannah; I don't think it took even 10 minutes to
    mow.


    woods on a long term basis?

    We're in a seasonal trailer park so Mother's Day (Can) to Thanksgiving (can) are when we're allowed in. Having said that when all the people
    are moved in to the apartment, I'm probably going to be staying here
    most days jsut so I have some time to myself.

    I see; Steve's older brother/wife and sister/husband are in a
    "campground" like that. Mostly long term RVs in it but a section has
    cottages that some people have been grandfathered in for year round
    living. My BIL and his wife are in one of those; her family has owned
    the property for I don't know how many years. My SIL and her husband
    spend 6 months of the year in Florida, the other 6 months at this
    campground. We asked if we could rent a site for just a few days while
    visiting in that area, got told "sorry, no".



    We bought a chicken from Sam's Club and Steve grilled a rack of ribs
    late last week so we're eating off of them, reheating as desired in
    the microwave. Right now the temperature is only 75; I could almost
    bake something in the big oven without heating up the house too much. we'll work on left overs tho. (G)

    Our Grandson came to visit yesterday so we had Hot Dogs last night. :)
    I enjoy one every now and again. Andrea also brought a nice store
    made salad and fruit tray so we ate pretty darn well! Left over dogs
    will be used instead of Bacon with our eggs when the rest of them wake
    up. :)

    We've done that from time to time, cut up the hot dogs and scramble them
    with the eggs. My parents did that when I was growing up, called it
    "hupple pupple". Found a similar dish in one of my German cook books.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jul 29 06:20:00 2024
    Hi Ruth,
    On <Sun, 27 Jul 24>, you wrote me:

    We own about .28/acre, not really enough to justify buying a riding
    mower but takes a while to do with a push mower. Your lawn sounds
    like the one we had in Savannah; I don't think it took even 10
    minutes to mow.

    Our lawn mower is 100% people powered. I picked one up on the side
    of the road years ago when my hands still worked and was able to sharpen
    the blades. For our lawn it's perfect, anything it misses we get with the whipper snipper. ;)

    the property for I don't know how many years. My SIL and her husband
    spend 6 months of the year in Florida, the other 6 months at this campground. We asked if we could rent a site for just a few days
    while visiting in that area, got told "sorry, no".

    Our campground still has some transient spots he keeps open, however
    if they don't like the look of you it's "booked solid." The family that runs it
    does an amazing job, if they sell (and we've replaced the current tin can) we'll pull the trailer out. The current one hasn't moved in 50 years or more so while it's on wheels it will come apart when they hook a tractor up
    to haul it out.

    We've done that from time to time, cut up the hot dogs and scramble
    them with the eggs. My parents did that when I was growing up, called
    it "hupple pupple". Found a similar dish in one of my German cook
    books.

    With a picky eater like the grandson at least chopped up hotdogs are as
    good as bacon. (In his mind)

    Shawn


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jul 29 07:17:13 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    My grandparents had apple, cherry, apricot, paw-pae and crabapple
    trees in the back yard of their town home. And a regular orchard at
    the farm with more apples, peaches, cherries, pears and blackberry brambles as well as raspberries on the other side of the orhard. Gooseberies and May apples were available in the woods.

    So putting up was a big production in the summer. Steve had a bowl full (about 2 1/2 quarts) in the fridge so yesterday he pulled out the dehydrator. Dried them down to maybe about 2 cups. We'll probably do another batch or 2 in the dehydrator before the tree ends production,
    in probably early September.

    My grandmother had bonanza amounts of fruits preserves, jams, jellies
    and both peach and apple "butters". But the big production was pickling
    the cucumbers. She made Virginia Chunk, Bread & Butter, Dill, and with
    the little guyus - Senf Gherkins. When she closed the house to move to
    assisted living I had an antique dealer drop by and make a bid on her
    stoneware crocks (up to 10 gallons) glass jars, etc. As well as the old
    laundry stove in the basement. He added almost 10K to her bank account
    and amazed her. She had no idea "that old junk" was worth anythng. Bv)=

    8<----- HACK ----->8

    Probably because the fig trees do not do well in the Northern climate zones. I did some readig on what it takes to have a successful fig
    crop in my area. YIKES!!! I'll buy figs that have been shipped in,
    Thenkew veddy much. Bv)=

    That's OK. If we ever get out that way, I can drop off either some
    dried figs or preserves in the off season, fresh figs in July/August.

    That's a wonderful offer.

    I had a cherry tree in my front yard until the derecho winds hit last July.

    My parents had one for years, until a storm did it in. It happened just before we came up for a visit so Steve saved some of the wood for his smoker.

    My tree service guy salvaged all the wood except the small branches
    for his son's smoker. AFAIK I've never had cherry smoked anything. I
    have, however, used grapevine cutting to smoke a chuck roast very successfully.

    Other than things smoked tasting good, I don't recall anything specific about it. IIRC,the wood was probably used to smoke turkeys and Boston butts.

    I nearly bought a smoker - but, the "reality" side of my brain said,
    "You'll buy. Set it up. Use it once or twice than spend the rest of
    you life dusting it and working around it." So, I passed. I do have a
    charcoal grill w/offset fire box that I can use to smoke stuff if I care
    to. I find, though, that the older I get the less time I spend in my
    tiny kitchen.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Senf Gherkins
    Categories: Squash, Preserving, Pickles
    Yield: 7 Pints

    5 qt Cucumbers or Gherkins; 1 1/2
    - to 3 inches length
    1/2 c Salt
    8 c Sugar
    6 c Vinegar
    3/4 ts Turmeric
    2 ts Celery seed
    2 ts Whole mixed pickling spices
    8 (1") sticks cinnamon
    1/2 ts Fennel; opt
    2 ts Vanilla; opt

    1st Day: MORNING - wash cucumbers thoroughly, scrubbing
    with vegetable brush. Stem ends may be left on if desired.
    Drain cucumbers, place in large container and cover with
    boiling water.

    AFTERNOON - (6-8 hours) drain; cover with fresh boiling
    water.

    2nd Day: MORNING - drain; cover with fresh boiling water.

    AFTERNOON - drain; add salt; cover with fresh boiling
    water.

    3rd Day: MORNING - drain; prick cucumbers in several
    places with table fork. Make syrup of 3 cups of sugar
    and 3 cups vinegar; add turmeric and spices. Heat to
    boiling and pour over cucumbers. Cucumbers will be
    partially covered at this point.

    AFTERNOON - drain syrup into pan. Add 2 cups of the
    sugar and 2 cups vinegar to syrup. Heat to boiling and
    pour over pickles.

    4th Day: MORNING - drain syrup into pan; add 2 cups
    sugar and 1 cup vinegar to syrup. Heat to boiling and
    pour over pickles.

    AFTERNOON - drain syrup into pan; add remaining 1 cup
    sugar and the vanilla, if desired, to syrup; heat to
    boiling. Pack pickles into pint jars and cover with
    boiling syrup to 1/2" of top of jar. Adjust jar lids.
    Process for 5 minutes in boiling water (start counting
    the processing time when water returns to boil). Remove
    jars and complete seals as necessary. Set jars upright
    several inches apart.

    Yields 7-8 pints.

    FROM: Uncle Phaedrus, Finder of Lost Recipes

    From: http://hungrybrowser.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Jul 28 19:53:31 2024
    Hi Carol,


    A quick trip to the search engine tells me that fiss will not
    dowell DD> in my groqing zone without lots of special help. Which may
    'splain DD> why they're not common around here.

    And we're in a great spot for them. Steve planted another tree to be last year so in a few years we'll have a super abundance of them.

    From my research they aren't huge trees like maples or oaks.

    No, more like a bush. BTW, I was informed that the 2nd tree didn't make
    it so we only have to one, but a very prolific one.



    Figs love VB! Tons of them here. Fig farming has become 'a thing'.
    I often trade apples for them.

    We don't have enough to farm (the newer tree didn't make it so just have
    the one) but the one tree we have is quite prolific. So far we've
    dehydrated several pounds of figs, with more to come. Maybe ought to
    take some to the farmer's market and do some bartering.

    This years apple crop looks to be 1.5 bushels. I'm going to
    practice CS> making apple cider. I'm all setup now for it.

    Sounds good to me. My parents had several apple trees. One year when he
    was in a nearby college, my sister's son came over with several of his classmates to make cider. IIRC, they were able to make several gallons, splitting the yield so some went back to the college, some stayed with
    my parents.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Jul 28 20:00:54 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Serviceman (current/former) and first responders get discounts in many places. AutoZone gives 10% - if they ask. If they are in uniform I hit
    the "DISCOUNT" tab automatically.

    We get it at quite a few places, sometimes coded at the register as a "senior" discount. Of course Steve's grey hair is a give away there
    that he's entitled to that one. (G) One nice thing about the Michael's craft store chain--they give the discount to spouses of retirees also.

    Hardee's/Carl's Jr. of the fats food places mhere gives a 10% senior spiff. But, you may have to remind the clerk the deduct the amount.

    The only Hardee's in WF closed several years ago, before the pandemic
    hit so we have to find one in neighboring communities. Carl's Jr. is a
    western chain; we've stopped there a time or two when west of the
    Mississippi.


    Bruno (the BMW) is going to Eurosport on Wednesday to get its oil
    changed and some little, niggling, problems looked at. The worst is jumping out of gear whilst driving down the road. I suspect low transmission fluid - but, he's not "making his territory" (drips) and there's no dipstick for either the engine oil or transmission fluid.

    Hopefully nothing too serious. Steve dropped off the camper today
    for the work that needs doing, and hopefully covered by insurance.

    They kept it overnight waiting for a call-back from BMW as they had to
    ask for help. Hopefully I'll get the car back today - even if they
    have to wait for parts.

    Turned out that a wonky igition coil was the cause of the transmission shiftig to neutral. Which is bizarre i my experience. But, that's why
    I get my service done at Eurosport. They have (or can get) the
    solutions
    to my problems. And it turned out that the coils from BMW were
    actually le$$ that the aftermarket units from AutoZone. Which does't
    hapen often.

    Interesting, so are you getting it fixed this week?


    All the parts are in for the camper and it is up at the RV place; they said they'll begin work next week. Next trip isn't planned until late September but we may do a local one if we get it back soon.

    There's some pretty territory oven in the west end of your state. And
    a bit of history revolving around the moonshiners and reveners.

    We've been out there various times. The lady that used to co-odinate our
    Quilts of Valor group was a native of Tennisee; her family went back generations. She told me about one ancester, Gunpowder Mary (Google it)
    and how she outsmarted the British during the Revolutionary War.


    8<----- WHACK ----->8


    No, closer to Sicily. Switzerland is up near the top of the boot.

    Sorry you said to and my mind read top. Bv)= Senior moment.

    Understandable. We've spent some enjoyable time in Switzerland when we were stationed in Germany. Used to camp in Interlaken with friends;
    we'd bring marshmallows and graham crackers but buy the chocolate down there. One year we introduced (American) missionary kids living in
    France to S'mores.

    I sort of envy you guys the travel you got on Uncle Sugar's nickle. I spent my whole enlistment after boot camp at the Naval Air Station in Millington, Tn. Did fly around the world once on a "training" flight.
    Saw a lot of blue water and cloud passing under out aero-chine. And
    found that the inside of one military air field is much like any other right down to the mess hall.

    Should have stayed in longer, maybe had the chance to see more of the
    world. My dad was WWII, Navy, Pacific theater. He never cared for rice
    or spam, interestingly tho, did like canned corned beef, after the war.
    One 3 week stretch in December 44 to January 45 they had alternating
    meals of canned corned beef and Spam. Supply ship couldn't get thru.

    Title: Navy S.O.S. (Minced Beef)
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables
    Yield: 10 Servings

    Never heard of or saw that at home when I was growing up.

    ---
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    Ruth
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jul 29 14:33:25 2024
    Re: Towing the Line [1]
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Jul 28 2024 07:53 pm

    Hi Carol,


    A quick trip to the search engine tells me that fiss will not
    dowell DD> in my groqing zone without lots of special help. Which m
    'splain DD> why they're not common around here.

    And we're in a great spot for them. Steve planted another tree to be last year so in a few years we'll have a super abundance of them.

    From my research they aren't huge trees like maples or oaks.

    No, more like a bush. BTW, I was informed that the 2nd tree didn't make it so we only have to one, but a very prolific one.



    Figs love VB! Tons of them here. Fig farming has become 'a thing'.
    I often trade apples for them.

    We don't have enough to farm (the newer tree didn't make it so just have
    the one) but the one tree we have is quite prolific. So far we've
    dehydrated several pounds of figs, with more to come. Maybe ought to
    take some to the farmer's market and do some bartering.

    This years apple crop looks to be 1.5 bushels. I'm going to
    practice CS> making apple cider. I'm all setup now for it.

    Sounds good to me. My parents had several apple trees. One year when he
    was in a nearby college, my sister's son came over with several of his classmates to make cider. IIRC, they were able to make several gallons, splitting the yield so some went back to the college, some stayed with
    my parents.



    Sounds like a plan for my apple cider! I won't try to ferment it, but next year might, For now, I don't have containers to do that properly.

    xxcarol
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jul 30 06:10:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Serviceman (current/former) and first responders get discounts in many places. AutoZone gives 10% - if they ask. If they are in uniform I hit
    the "DISCOUNT" tab automatically.

    We get it at quite a few places, sometimes coded at the register as a "senior" discount. Of course Steve's grey hair is a give away there
    that he's entitled to that one. (G) One nice thing about the Michael's craft store chain--they give the discount to spouses of retirees also.

    Hardee's/Carl's Jr. of the fats food places mhere gives a 10% senior spiff. But, you may have to remind the clerk the deduct the amount.

    The only Hardee's in WF closed several years ago, before the pandemic
    hit so we have to find one in neighboring communities. Carl's Jr. is a western chain; we've stopped there a time or two when west of the Mississippi.

    When Carl's Jr. bought the Hardee's chain they initially re-branded many
    of the stores to Carl's Jr. and watched sales make a death dive. So they
    went back to being the more-familiar Hardee's

    The local franchisee dragged his feet on the new signage so didn't have
    to re-brand his stores. I understand the menus are slightly different
    beteen C-J and Hardee's.

    Bruno (the BMW) is going to Eurosport on Wednesday to get its oil
    changed and some little, niggling, problems looked at. The worst is jumping out of gear whilst driving down the road. I suspect low transmission fluid - but, he's not "making his territory" (drips) and there's no dipstick for either the engine oil or transmission fluid.

    8<----- SNIP----->8

    Interesting, so are you getting it fixed this week?

    It's done. BMW FED-Exed the coils the day they diagnosed the problem and
    I picked up the car next day.

    All the parts are in for the camper and it is up at the RV place; they said they'll begin work next week. Next trip isn't planned until late September but we may do a local one if we get it back soon.

    There's some pretty territory oven in the west end of your state. And
    a bit of history revolving around the moonshiners and reveners.

    We've been out there various times. The lady that used to co-odinate
    our Quilts of Valor group was a native of Tennisee; her family went
    back generations. She told me about one ancester, Gunpowder Mary
    (Google it) and how she outsmarted the British during the Revolutionary War.


    8<----- WHACK ----->8


    No, closer to Sicily. Switzerland is up near the top of the boot.

    Sorry you said toe and my mind read top. Bv)= Senior moment.

    Understandable. We've spent some enjoyable time in Switzerland when we were stationed in Germany. Used to camp in Interlaken with friends;
    we'd bring marshmallows and graham crackers but buy the chocolate down there. One year we introduced (American) missionary kids living in
    France to S'mores.

    I sort of envy you guys the travel you got on Uncle Sugar's nickle. I spent my whole enlistment after boot camp at the Naval Air Station in Millington, Tn. Did fly around the world once on a "training" flight.
    Saw a lot of blue water and cloud passing under out aero-chine. And
    found that the inside of one military air field is much like any other right down to the mess hall.

    Should have stayed in longer, maybe had the chance to see more of the world. My dad was WWII, Navy, Pacific theater. He never cared for rice
    or spam, interestingly tho, did like canned corned beef, after the war. One 3 week stretch in December 44 to January 45 they had alternating
    meals of canned corned beef and Spam. Supply ship couldn't get thru.

    My brother did a tour in Vietnam. To this day he will not eat rice.

    Title: Navy S.O.S. (Minced Beef)
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables
    Yield: 10 Servings

    Never heard of or saw that at home when I was growing up.

    We had S.O.S. fairly often when I was a youngster. Both the hamburger
    based and the "real" sliced, dried beef versions .... depending on how
    close it was to payday. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Creamed Chipped Beef (S.O.S.)
    Categories: Beef, Dairy, Breads, Vegetables
    Yield: 4 servings

    4 1/2 oz (2 jars) sliced dried beef;
    - in 1/2" strips
    3 tb Butter
    3 tb All-purpose flour
    1/2 ts Onion powder
    1/2 ts Salt
    1/4 ts Black pepper
    2 c Milk
    1 tb Worcestershire sauce
    4 sl White bread; toasted, halved
    - diagonally

    Place beef in a medium bowl and add enough warm water to
    cover. Soak 2 minutes; drain.

    In a medium skillet over medium heat, melt butter; add
    flour, onion powder, salt, and pepper and cook 1 minute,
    stirring constantly. Add milk and Worcestershire sauce;
    mix well.

    Bring to a boil, reduce heat to low, and stir in beef.
    Cook 2 to 3 minutes, or until sauce is thickened,
    stirring constantly.

    Spoon an equal amount of beef mixture over each piece of
    toast. Serve immediately.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.mrfood.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Shawn Highfield on Tue Jul 30 06:16:00 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    We own about .28/acre, not really enough to justify buying a riding
    mower but takes a while to do with a push mower. Your lawn sounds
    like the one we had in Savannah; I don't think it took even 10
    minutes to mow.

    Our lawn mower is 100% people powered. I picked one up on the side
    of the road years ago when my hands still worked and was able to
    sharpen the blades. For our lawn it's perfect, anything it misses we
    get with the whipper snipper. ;)

    I was gonna buy one of those - but when I started looking I found that
    the prices were as much as a small powered mower. I have an electric
    mower - which Denis absolutely abhors. He says he's afraid of running
    over the extension cord. I think it's because that's not the way he
    has "always done it." My front yard - the only part that gets/needs cut
    os 45' X 50' with a big tree and a driveway. So, not much. But he went
    out and bought a self-propelled gas-engine mower. Ir currently has
    thrown a shoe and needs some plastic gears/splines replaced. Bv)=

    the property for I don't know how many years. My SIL and her husband
    spend 6 months of the year in Florida, the other 6 months at this campground. We asked if we could rent a site for just a few days
    while visiting in that area, got told "sorry, no".

    Our campground still has some transient spots he keeps open, however
    if they don't like the look of you it's "booked solid." The family
    that runs it
    does an amazing job, if they sell (and we've replaced the current tin
    can) we'll pull the trailer out. The current one hasn't moved in 50
    years or more so while it's on wheels it will come apart when they hook
    a tractor up to haul it out.

    Winch it up onto a flatbed trailer and haul it to the salvage yard. Or
    look for a low underpass then call your insurance company. Bv)=

    We've done that from time to time, cut up the hot dogs and scramble
    them with the eggs. My parents did that when I was growing up, called
    it "hupple pupple". Found a similar dish in one of my German cook
    books.

    With a picky eater like the grandson at least chopped up hotdogs are as good as bacon. (In his mind)

    Nothing is as good as bacon. Nothing ... not even steak.

    Neighbour lady brought us a sack of just plucked tomatoes from her
    garden. So, off to Humphrey's for bacon patties to make sandwiches.
    With fresh, just picked tomatoes, pepper-jack cheese, lettuce they
    became giant BLTs w/cheese.

    I sometimes make these myself if I'm feeling frisky. But it's a lot
    easier to take the lazy cook's way out and buy them down the butcher
    shop.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Ground Bacon Burger
    Categories: Pork, Vegetables, Herbs, Breads
    Yield: 4 Burgers

    2 lb Uncooked bacon
    1/2 lb Bacon; cooked, fine chopped
    2 tb Your favourite BBQ dry rub
    2 c Shredded iceberg lettuce
    2 lg Tomatoes; sliced
    BBQ sauce; optional
    4 Kaiser rolls; split, lightly
    - toasted

    ADDITIONAL TOOLS: Stand mixer w/meat grinder attachment
    or food processor

    Prepare grill for medium-high heat cooking,
    approximately 400ºF/205ºC.

    Rough chop the uncooked bacon and place in the freezer
    for approximately 15 minutes until it begins to firm but
    hasn't frozen through. Once partially frozen, feed it
    through the grinder attachment of a stand mixer or place
    in a food processor and roughly chop.

    Once the bacon has been properly ground, gently mix in
    the chopped cooked bacon then form into 4 burger
    patties. Season patties lightly on both sides with BBQ
    dry rub seasoning.

    Place patties on the grill and cook until they reach a
    minimum internal temperature of 160ºF/71ºC. Remove the
    burger patties from the grill. Assemble burgers by
    spreading BBQ sauce or Mayonnaise on the buns, place
    patty on the bottom bun, followed by shredded iceberg
    lettuce, and 2-3 slices of tomatoes. Add the top bun
    and serve immediately.

    UDD NOTE: A nice slice of Cheddar or Colby cheese is a
    nice touch. Pepper jack, too.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.kingsford.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Mon Jul 29 12:36:17 2024
    Hi Shawn,


    We own about .28/acre, not really enough to justify buying a riding
    mower but takes a while to do with a push mower. Your lawn sounds
    like the one we had in Savannah; I don't think it took even 10
    minutes to mow.

    Our lawn mower is 100% people powered. I picked one up on the side
    of the road years ago when my hands still worked and was able to
    sharpen the blades. For our lawn it's perfect, anything it misses we
    get with the whipper snipper. ;)

    Good deal! Steve bought an electric mower when we were in Savannah and
    we took it up to WF when we moved. It didn't do that great a job up here
    so he replaced it with a gas one, don't remember what he did with the
    other. We've more yard to mow in this house than we did in the rental;
    he mowed it for the first few years & still does from time to time but
    would rather pay somebody to do it now. At the moment he is over at the
    church house mowing, but on a riding mower. He and several other men do
    the yard there, each one doing it once or twice a month, and usually
    working in 2s.

    the property for I don't know how many years. My SIL and her
    husband RH> spend 6 months of the year in Florida, the other 6 months
    at this RH> campground. We asked if we could rent a site for just a few
    days RH> while visiting in that area, got told "sorry, no".

    Our campground still has some transient spots he keeps open, however
    if they don't like the look of you it's "booked solid." The family

    Good to know if we ever get up that way.


    that runs it
    does an amazing job, if they sell (and we've replaced the current tin
    can) we'll pull the trailer out. The current one hasn't moved in 50
    years or more so while it's on wheels it will come apart when they
    hook a tractor up to haul it out.

    Not a good thing. I presume there's alternate ways to get it out.


    We've done that from time to time, cut up the hot dogs and scramble
    them with the eggs. My parents did that when I was growing up, called
    it "hupple pupple". Found a similar dish in one of my German cook
    books.

    With a picky eater like the grandson at least chopped up hotdogs are
    as good as bacon. (In his mind)

    We weren't allowed to be picky, didn't raise our girls that way either.
    They both enjoy a wide variety of food from various cultures. Younger daughter's older son is on the autism spectrum so is more picky about
    what he likes to eat. When we visited last year, he'd gone vetetarian
    but was happy when his mom found vegetarian hot dogs at Ikea.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Jul 29 12:49:11 2024
    Hi Dave,

    So putting up was a big production in the summer. Steve had a bowl full (about 2 1/2 quarts) in the fridge so yesterday he pulled out the dehydrator. Dried them down to maybe about 2 cups. We'll probably do another batch or 2 in the dehydrator before the tree ends production,
    in probably early September.

    My grandmother had bonanza amounts of fruits preserves, jams, jellies
    and both peach and apple "butters". But the big production was
    pickling the cucumbers. She made Virginia Chunk, Bread & Butter, Dill,
    and with
    the little guyus - Senf Gherkins. When she closed the house to move to assisted living I had an antique dealer drop by and make a bid on her stoneware crocks (up to 10 gallons) glass jars, etc. As well as the
    old laundry stove in the basement. He added almost 10K to her bank
    account
    and amazed her. She had no idea "that old junk" was worth anythng.

    One man's junk is another man's treasure. Just to be on the safe side,
    I'd probabbly not buy/use old canning jars for putting up, might buy one
    or two crocks tho. My mom used to store her Christmas baking in a
    stoneware crock so some years ago I asked my brother about the
    possibility of getting one. He said that they (she had 2 or 3) were all
    cracked or broken so he'd thrown then out. Sigh!

    8<----- HACK ----->8

    Probably because the fig trees do not do well in the Northern climate zones. I did some readig on what it takes to have a successful fig
    crop in my area. YIKES!!! I'll buy figs that have been shipped in,
    Thenkew veddy much. Bv)=

    That's OK. If we ever get out that way, I can drop off either some
    dried figs or preserves in the off season, fresh figs in July/August.

    That's a wonderful offer.

    Just have to figure out when we'll be out that way. Do need to visit the Chicago Public Library and make a donation of some of my great
    grandfather's papers to add to their collection of his.


    I nearly bought a smoker - but, the "reality" side of my brain said, "You'll buy. Set it up. Use it once or twice than spend the rest of
    you life dusting it and working around it." So, I passed. I do have a charcoal grill w/offset fire box that I can use to smoke stuff if I
    care to. I find, though, that the older I get the less time I spend in
    my tiny kitchen.

    Understandable; our kitchen is bigger but I usually don't spend hours in
    it. Got to have Steve finish moving some stuff to his new shed and
    finish the indoor work on the new (2021) windows so I can rehang the
    curtains.


    Title: Senf Gherkins
    Categories: Squash, Preserving, Pickles
    Yield: 7 Pints

    5 qt Cucumbers or Gherkins; 1 1/2
    - to 3 inches length
    1/2 c Salt
    8 c Sugar
    6 c Vinegar
    3/4 ts Turmeric
    2 ts Celery seed
    2 ts Whole mixed pickling spices
    8 (1") sticks cinnamon
    1/2 ts Fennel; opt
    2 ts Vanilla; opt

    Where's the mustard? Senf is German for mustard.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Jul 29 13:04:43 2024
    Hi Dave,

    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<


    I would do likewise - if I had the counter space. My toaster oven is
    also a convection oven (air fryer). I may toss my house-mates
    collection of plastic food containers - or at least condense it down
    to a reasonable size. He's badly infected with packrat-itis.

    I keep some plastic around for a while, then toss extras into recycle.
    Same with glass. Since Steve retired from the Army, I've bought more
    glass for storage than plastic but still use plastic for some things.


    Then I'd have a spot for the toaster oven.

    Our toaster oven is also a convection oven. We bought a larger one some
    years ago (able to hold a 13"x9" pan) but it hung over the fridge side
    of the counter. Still miss it from time to time as we had to rehome it
    after buying a new (larger) fridge. The larger fridge is nice tho. (G)
    Donated our old one to our church kitchen; it still worked well and the
    kitchen needed a larger fridge than what it had.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Dave Drum on Wed Jul 31 06:24:00 2024
    Hi Dave,
    On <Wed, 30 Jul 24>, you wrote me:

    I was gonna buy one of those - but when I started looking I found
    that the prices were as much as a small powered mower. I have an

    If I had paid for it I would have gone with some sort of powered one, but
    for free it's been a great mower for at least 10 years now.

    Winch it up onto a flatbed trailer and haul it to the salvage yard.
    Or look for a low underpass then call your insurance company.

    I wish a picture would show you how big this one is. To go down the
    road one needs special permits and a police escort as it's over sized.
    Honestly as soon as they hooked it up to a winch the entire tin can
    will come apart anyway.

    are as good as bacon. (In his mind)
    Nothing is as good as bacon. Nothing ... not even steak.

    He's 8. ;)

    Neighbour lady brought us a sack of just plucked tomatoes from her
    garden. So, off to Humphrey's for bacon patties to make sandwiches.
    With fresh, just picked tomatoes, pepper-jack cheese, lettuce they
    became giant BLTs w/cheese.

    Sounds good!

    Shawn

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jul 31 06:27:00 2024
    Hi Ruth,
    On <Tue, 29 Jul 24>, you wrote me:

    would rather pay somebody to do it now. At the moment he is over at
    the church house mowing, but on a riding mower. He and several other
    the yard there, each one doing it once or twice a month, and usually working in 2s.

    That's a good way to get it done without hurting anyone. Probably more then enough men who have time to help out the church.

    however if they don't like the look of you it's "booked solid."
    Good to know if we ever get up that way.

    You wouldn't have an issue. Besides I'd let them know you were coming and
    to give you guys the VIP spot. :)

    Not a good thing. I presume there's alternate ways to get it out.

    Just in peices. But we don't care as with luck we'll be replacing it
    in 2026 with something new.

    Younger daughter's older son is on the autism spectrum so is more
    picky about what he likes to eat. When we visited last year, he'd
    gone vetetarian but was happy when his mom found vegetarian hot dogs
    at Ikea.

    My daughter wasn't raised to be picky, but she sure lets her boy get
    away with it. :)

    Shawn


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Tue Jul 30 13:14:57 2024
    Hi Carol,

    Figs love VB! Tons of them here. Fig farming has become 'a thing'.
    I often trade apples for them.

    We don't have enough to farm (the newer tree didn't make it so just have
    the one) but the one tree we have is quite prolific. So far we've
    dehydrated several pounds of figs, with more to come. Maybe ought to
    take some to the farmer's market and do some bartering.

    This years apple crop looks to be 1.5 bushels. I'm going to
    practice CS> making apple cider. I'm all setup now for it.

    Sounds good to me. My parents had several apple trees. One year when he
    was in a nearby college, my sister's son came over with several of his classmates to make cider. IIRC, they were able to make several gallons, splitting the yield so some went back to the college, some stayed with
    my parents.

    Sounds like a plan for my apple cider! I won't try to ferment it, but next year might, For now, I don't have containers to do that
    properly.

    Do you have space in your freezer? Cider does freeze well, just have to
    make sure you leave some head room. That way you can enjoy last year's
    batch when the trees are blooming for this year's crop. (G)


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Jul 30 13:19:27 2024
    Hi Dave,

    The only Hardee's in WF closed several years ago, before the pandemic
    hit so we have to find one in neighboring communities. Carl's Jr. is a western chain; we've stopped there a time or two when west of the Mississippi.

    When Carl's Jr. bought the Hardee's chain they initially re-branded
    many of the stores to Carl's Jr. and watched sales make a death dive.
    So they went back to being the more-familiar Hardee's

    Hardee's is better known east of the Mississippi. They used to do a
    roast beef, similar to Arby's, slicing it after it was ordered. Probably
    Arby's (or Roy Rogers in some markets) was more popular but I wish
    they'd not discontinued it.

    The local franchisee dragged his feet on the new signage so didn't
    have to re-brand his stores. I understand the menus are slightly
    different beteen C-J and Hardee's.

    It has been a while since we've been in a Carl's Jr; having the camper
    we now usually fix our own lunches. IIRC, the menua are similr, but, as
    you say, slight differences. I can't recall specific ones tho.

    8<----- SNIP----->8

    Interesting, so are you getting it fixed this week?

    It's done. BMW FED-Exed the coils the day they diagnosed the problem
    and I picked up the car next day.

    Good, no idea how long the RV place will take with the camper. More work
    has to be done--taking off both long sides and replacing them is not a
    one day job.

    There's some pretty territory oven in the west end of your state. And
    a bit of history revolving around the moonshiners and reveners.

    We've been out there various times. The lady that used to co-odinate
    our Quilts of Valor group was a native of Tennisee; her family went
    back generations. She told me about one ancester, Gunpowder Mary
    (Google it) and how she outsmarted the British during the Revolutionary War.


    8<----- WHACK ----->8


    No, closer to Sicily. Switzerland is up near the top of the boot.

    Sorry you said toe and my mind read top. Bv)= Senior moment.

    Understandable. We've spent some enjoyable time in Switzerland when we were stationed in Germany. Used to camp in Interlaken with friends;
    we'd bring marshmallows and graham crackers but buy the chocolate down there. One year we introduced (American) missionary kids living in
    France to S'mores.

    I sort of envy you guys the travel you got on Uncle Sugar's nickle. I spent my whole enlistment after boot camp at the Naval Air Station in Millington, Tn. Did fly around the world once on a "training" flight.
    Saw a lot of blue water and cloud passing under out aero-chine. And
    found that the inside of one military air field is much like any other right down to the mess hall.

    Should have stayed in longer, maybe had the chance to see more of the world. My dad was WWII, Navy, Pacific theater. He never cared for rice
    or spam, interestingly tho, did like canned corned beef, after the war. One 3 week stretch in December 44 to January 45 they had alternating
    meals of canned corned beef and Spam. Supply ship couldn't get thru.

    My brother did a tour in Vietnam. To this day he will not eat rice.

    I'm not surprised. Back when our older daughter and her husband bought a Mitsubishi Eclipse, my dad didn't like the car because it was Japanese
    (one of his ships was hit by an--unsuccessful--kamikaze attack). He did
    buy German cars tho.


    Title: Navy S.O.S. (Minced Beef)
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables
    Yield: 10 Servings

    Never heard of or saw that at home when I was growing up.

    We had S.O.S. fairly often when I was a youngster. Both the hamburger based and the "real" sliced, dried beef versions .... depending on how close it was to payday. Bv)=

    Mom did other things to stretch the budget but never S.O.S.

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jul 31 16:21:33 2024
    Re: Towing the Line [1]
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Tue Jul 30 2024 01:14 pm

    Hi Carol,

    Figs love VB! Tons of them here. Fig farming has become 'a thing'. I often trade apples for them.

    We don't have enough to farm (the newer tree didn't make it so just have the one) but the one tree we have is quite prolific. So far we've dehydrated several pounds of figs, with more to come. Maybe ought to
    take some to the farmer's market and do some bartering.

    This years apple crop looks to be 1.5 bushels. I'm going to
    practice CS> making apple cider. I'm all setup now for it.

    Sounds good to me. My parents had several apple trees. One year when he was in a nearby college, my sister's son came over with several of his classmates to make cider. IIRC, they were able to make several gallons, splitting the yield so some went back to the college, some stayed with
    my parents.

    Sounds like a plan for my apple cider! I won't try to ferment it, but next year might, For now, I don't have containers to do that
    properly.

    Do you have space in your freezer? Cider does freeze well, just have to
    make sure you leave some head room. That way you can enjoy last year's
    batch when the trees are blooming for this year's crop. (G)



    Thats problematic. I'm shy of space in the frezer!

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Shawn Highfield on Thu Aug 1 07:13:58 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I was gonna buy one of those - but when I started looking I found
    that the prices were as much as a small powered mower. I have an

    If I had paid for it I would have gone with some sort of powered one,
    but for free it's been a great mower for at least 10 years now.

    When I was a pre-teen I used to mow my grandparent's lawn with a push
    mower that was ancient even then (1950). It had a wooden handle - the
    only metal was the mower itself. My granddad had a little gadget that
    one rolled along the blades to keep them sharp. I soon learned that 20
    minutes tending to that chore would save me a lot of sweat and nearly
    30 miutes of time in actual mowing.

    Winch it up onto a flatbed trailer and haul it to the salvage yard.
    Or look for a low underpass then call your insurance company.

    I wish a picture would show you how big this one is. To go down the
    road one needs special permits and a police escort as it's over sized. Honestly as soon as they hooked it up to a winch the entire tin can
    will come apart anyway.

    I was being facetious. Sounds like what I've been thinking of as a camp/
    travel trailer is, in fact, a full blown red-neck mansion (mobile home).

    When I first ventured to California my friend and I lived in an Airstream travel trailer parked behind a neighbourhood grocery store. There was a
    kitchen area - which went mostly unused. And a teeny-tiny loo/shower that
    did see a lot of use.

    are as good as bacon. (In his mind)
    Nothing is as good as bacon. Nothing ... not even steak.

    He's 8. ;)

    He'll learn.

    Neighbour lady brought us a sack of just plucked tomatoes from her
    garden. So, off to Humphrey's for bacon patties to make sandwiches.
    With fresh, just picked tomatoes, pepper-jack cheese, lettuce they
    became giant BLTs w/cheese.

    Sounds good!

    T'was. Last night I did a bag of pre-mixed lettuce salad with a couple
    of those 'mters chopped up, some sunflower seeds and shredded Cheddar,
    covered in Russian dressing. I was stuffed. Bv)=

    I have made this and it's pretty good. But, TBH, I still prefer good ol' Wishbone. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Russian Salad Dressing
    Categories: Vegetables,Citrus, Herbs, Sauces
    Yield: 10 servings

    1/2 c White sugar
    3 tb Water
    1 1/2 ts Celery seed
    1/2 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Paprika
    2 1/2 tb Lemon juice; fresh
    1 tb Worcestershire sauce
    1 tb Vinegar
    1 c Oil
    1/2 c Ketchup *
    1/4 c Onion; grated

    * I use Red Gold ketchup w/Huy Fog Sriracha for a
    "zippy" version. Or Heinz/Hunt's for a tamer sauce.

    Cook the sugar and water until it spins a thread then
    let it cool.

    Next, Combine remaining ingredients and add the sugar
    water and beat thoroughly.

    Next, chill ingredients. Makes about 2 cups, this makes
    great BBQ sauce as well!

    From the kitchen of Joyce & Rusty DeVoid

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.justapinch.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Aug 1 07:20:03 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    The only Hardee's in WF closed several years ago, before the pandemic
    hit so we have to find one in neighboring communities. Carl's Jr. is a western chain; we've stopped there a time or two when west of the Mississippi.

    When Carl's Jr. bought the Hardee's chain they initially re-branded
    many of the stores to Carl's Jr. and watched sales make a death dive.
    So they went back to being the more-familiar Hardee's

    Hardee's is better known east of the Mississippi. They used to do a
    roast beef, similar to Arby's, slicing it after it was ordered.
    Probably Arby's (or Roy Rogers in some markets) was more popular but I wish they'd not discontinued it.

    Hardee's bought the Roy Rogers operation for their fried chicken and the
    roast beast came with. I used to enjoy watcheing the slicer "go to town"
    when they were making up a sandwich. And the fried chicken was *great*.
    Much better than Kentucky Fried Colonel for my $$$. And they got quite a
    bit of it before Carl's Jr. bought them and discontinued both the roast
    beef and the chicken. Bv(=

    The local franchisee dragged his feet on the new signage so didn't
    have to re-brand his stores. I understand the menus are slightly
    different beteen C-J and Hardee's.

    It has been a while since we've been in a Carl's Jr; having the camper
    we now usually fix our own lunches. IIRC, the menua are similr, but, as you say, slight differences. I can't recall specific ones tho.

    The one thing that Carl's Jr. brought to Hardee's that I think is a plus
    iss the "Frisco" burger - a 1/3-pound charbroiled Black Angus beef patty covered in Swiss cheese, mayo, tomatoes, and bacon sandwiched between
    toasted sourdough.

    And now they have a BLT version which adds lettuce and more tomato and
    bacon. Right now they're offering 50% off in their app so I've had a
    few of those. By itself it's a meal.

    8<----- SNIP----->8

    My brother did a tour in Vietnam. To this day he will not eat rice.

    I'm not surprised. Back when our older daughter and her husband bought
    a Mitsubishi Eclipse, my dad didn't like the car because it was
    Japanese (one of his ships was hit by an--unsuccessful--kamikaze
    attack). He did buy German cars tho.

    Well, Mitsubishi did manufacture the Zero and other aeroplaes before
    switching back to cars after the war.

    Bv)= In actuality it's the Japanese manufacturers who made Detroit "up
    their game" quality-wise. Used to be if you had a car the lasted for
    100K miles it was rare, Then came the post-WWII Japanese cars. Now it's
    not uncommon for me to wait on customers at AutoZone with domestic iron
    that has more than 200K and still going strong.

    Title: Navy S.O.S. (Minced Beef)
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables
    Yield: 10 Servings

    Never heard of or saw that at home when I was growing up.

    We had S.O.S. fairly often when I was a youngster. Both the hamburger based and the "real" sliced, dried beef versions .... depending on how close it was to payday. Bv)=

    Mom did other things to stretch the budget but never S.O.S.

    Since your Dad was in Unc's Yacht Club he probably put the kibosh on that.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: The Frisco Burger (copycat)
    Categories: Beef, Bread, Pork, Vegetables, Cheese
    Yield: 1 sandwich

    2 sl Sourdough bread
    2 tb Butter; softened
    1/3 lb Ground chuck (80/20)
    2 sl Ementhal (Swiss) cheese
    4 tb Mayonnaise
    1 sl (ro 2) tomato
    2 sl Cooked bacon
    Salt & black pepper

    Spread butter on one side of each piece of sourdough
    bread.

    Place a medium skillet or griddle over medium heat. Once
    the pan has pre-heated for 4 or 5 minutes add the slices
    of bread, butter side down. Toast for 2 to 4 minutes or
    until the outside surface of the bread is golden brown
    and toasty. You can toast the other side of the bread if
    you want, but it's not required.

    Raise the temperature under your pan/griddle to
    medium-high

    Once the bread is toasted to your liking, form the third
    pound of ground beef into a thin patty (about a 3/4-inch
    thick) that is a little bit wider than your toast (or as
    close as you can get). Salt and pepper the ground beef
    patty and place the seasoned side down in the hot pan.
    Season the second side and allow the patty to cook,
    untouched, for 3 to 4 minutes.

    Flip the patty and add one or two slices of Swiss cheese
    on top of the patty. Cover the pan to help the cheese
    melt and cook the second side for at least 2 minutes. If
    you're worried about undercooking the burger, cook the
    second side for an additional 2 to 3 minutes.

    Remove the patty to a plate while you assemble the rest
    of your burger.

    Add mayonnaise and the second slice of cheese to the
    inside of the bottom slice of bread. Top the cheese with
    your tomato slices. Season the tomato with a tiny pinch
    of salt and ground black pepper.

    Top the tomato slices with the burger patty and cheese.
    Add two slices of bacon and top with the second slice of
    sourdough that you have also spread mayonnaise on.

    Serve and enjoy.

    RECIPE FROM: https://boundedbybuns.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Wed Jul 31 14:11:22 2024
    Hi Shawn,

    would rather pay somebody to do it now. At the moment he is over at
    the church house mowing, but on a riding mower. He and several other
    the yard there, each one doing it once or twice a month, and usually working in 2s.

    That's a good way to get it done without hurting anyone. Probably
    more then enough men who have time to help out the church.

    We aren't a very big congregation, mostly younger families with a few
    singles. There is one couple about our age, another couple in their 80s
    and one in their 50s but all the other families are in their mid 30s or younger. The singles are all of college age or older, here mostly
    because of the seminary and college but some locals with no school
    connection. It's a small property but has a lot of trees so a lot of
    hand mowing has to be done.


    however if they don't like the look of you it's "booked solid."
    Good to know if we ever get up that way.

    You wouldn't have an issue. Besides I'd let them know you were coming
    and to give you guys the VIP spot. :)

    OK, we'll have to give it some thought. We were in Nova Scotia a couple
    of years ago as part of the fall cruise with Steve's family--visited
    Halifax and docked in Sydney but we took the bus tour up to Badeck.
    Steve has said he wants to go back to Badeck, see some other places in
    Canada, so we may head that way some summer.


    Not a good thing. I presume there's alternate ways to get it out.

    Just in peices. But we don't care as with luck we'll be replacing it
    in 2026 with something new.

    Younger daughter's older son is on the autism spectrum so is more
    picky about what he likes to eat. When we visited last year, he'd
    gone vetetarian but was happy when his mom found vegetarian hot dogs
    at Ikea.

    My daughter wasn't raised to be picky, but she sure lets her boy get
    away with it. :)

    I know, our younger daughter is more liberal about the way her boys eat
    than our older daughter. Both girls have introduced some of the foods
    they grew up with to their families; younger daughter's family was more
    willing to eat whole wheat pasta & brown rice than older daughter's.
    But, she tried--her husband is more meat and potatoes than how she was
    brought up.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Dave Drum on Fri Aug 2 07:41:00 2024
    Hi Dave,
    On <Fri, 01 Aug 24>, you wrote me:

    one rolled along the blades to keep them sharp. I soon learned that
    20 minutes tending to that chore would save me a lot of sweat and
    nearly 30 miutes of time in actual mowing.

    For sure, our lawn is so small I haven't had the need to re-sharpen and
    that's a good thing as my hands are so far gone now. I can still do it it
    just takes a long time as I have to keep stopping and writing down what
    "count" I'm at. LOL

    camp/ travel trailer is, in fact, a full blown red-neck mansion
    (mobile home).

    It is, one from the 1970's or before. It's old old old. We're hoping to get a new one after Andrea is done this round of schooling. I want to
    hang onto this one for as long as possible due to having so much space.

    T'was. Last night I did a bag of pre-mixed lettuce salad with a
    couple of those 'mters chopped up, some sunflower seeds and shredded Cheddar, covered in Russian dressing. I was stuffed. Bv)=

    That sounds good. I had some bag-o-salad, onions, carrot, cuke, cheese
    deli ham salad with ranch dressing (which I dislike as a dressing but was
    all I had and it was too hot to shake a mason jar.

    Title: Russian Salad Dressing

    Saved this once before but moving it up the list to a "totry this year" database. LOL

    Shawn


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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Aug 2 07:55:00 2024
    Hi Ruth,
    On <Thu, 31 Jul 24>, you wrote me:

    younger. The singles are all of college age or older, here mostly
    because of the seminary and college but some locals with no school connection. It's a small property but has a lot of trees so a lot of
    hand mowing has to be done.

    Nice to have a young group though, it means your chruch will be there
    for a while yet. The one I went to has recently closed after over 100 years it's sad because it has one of the most beautiful pipe organs ever in it
    and it still works. :)

    Of course now the homeless have taken over the property so I'm sure they
    will break in and destroy the church soon.

    family--visited Halifax and docked in Sydney but we took the bus tour
    up to Badeck. Steve has said he wants to go back to Badeck, see some Canada, so we may head that way some summer.

    There is a lot to see around this area. Petroglyphs, caves, waterfalls, big city's, small villages. Just don't waste your time visiting The dirty Shwa as there is nothing here. ;)

    willing to eat whole wheat pasta & brown rice than older daughter's.
    But, she tried--her husband is more meat and potatoes than how she
    was brought up.

    My father is like that. Likes his meat, potatoes and veg. ;)

    Shawn


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Thu Aug 1 20:14:42 2024
    Hi Carol,

    classmates to make cider. IIRC, they were able to make several gallons, splitting the yield so some went back to the college, some stayed with
    my parents.

    Sounds like a plan for my apple cider! I won't try to ferment it, but next year might, For now, I don't have containers to do that
    properly.

    Do you have space in your freezer? Cider does freeze well, just have to
    make sure you leave some head room. That way you can enjoy last year's
    batch when the trees are blooming for this year's crop. (G)

    Thats problematic. I'm shy of space in the frezer!

    And still more summer crops to harvest. (G) Guess you will have to
    either get creative in your arrainging of what goes in to free up space
    or bite the bullet and get a new freezer. I'm still re-arrainging my
    fridge freezer and the big one from the melt down of a couple of weeks
    ago, finding I have more room than I thought I did.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Aug 1 20:20:14 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Hardee's bought the Roy Rogers operation for their fried chicken and
    the roast beast came with. I used to enjoy watcheing the slicer "go to town" when they were making up a sandwich. And the fried chicken was *great*. Much better than Kentucky Fried Colonel for my $$$. And they
    got quite a bit of it before Carl's Jr. bought them and discontinued
    both the roast beef and the chicken. Bv(=

    There's a Roy Rogers in Winchester, VA. We stopped there last November
    on our way up north and yes, we got (good) roast beef sandwiches. Might
    make it a more often stop.

    It has been a while since we've been in a Carl's Jr; having the camper
    we now usually fix our own lunches. IIRC, the menua are similr, but, as you say, slight differences. I can't recall specific ones tho.

    The one thing that Carl's Jr. brought to Hardee's that I think is a
    plus iss the "Frisco" burger - a 1/3-pound charbroiled Black Angus
    beef patty covered in Swiss cheese, mayo, tomatoes, and bacon
    sandwiched between
    toasted sourdough.

    And now they have a BLT version which adds lettuce and more tomato and bacon. Right now they're offering 50% off in their app so I've had a
    few of those. By itself it's a meal.

    I've seen it advertised on tv, both a chicken version and a beef
    version. I think I'd go for the chicken, but take the chicken out and
    have it on the side. We don't have the app so would pay full price if we
    went for it. Today's lunch was splitting a chicken bake at Costco; I
    had an appointment down in Raleigh, ran some other errands (including
    Costco) before going to the dr. Not the greatest but it beats a burger
    or their pizza.

    8<----- SNIP----->8

    My brother did a tour in Vietnam. To this day he will not eat rice.

    I'm not surprised. Back when our older daughter and her husband bought
    a Mitsubishi Eclipse, my dad didn't like the car because it was
    Japanese (one of his ships was hit by an--unsuccessful--kamikaze
    attack). He did buy German cars tho.

    Well, Mitsubishi did manufacture the Zero and other aeroplaes before switching back to cars after the war.

    Which is why my dad was not happy to see our SIL's car.


    Bv)= In actuality it's the Japanese manufacturers who made Detroit "up their game" quality-wise. Used to be if you had a car the lasted for
    100K miles it was rare, Then came the post-WWII Japanese cars. Now
    it's not uncommon for me to wait on customers at AutoZone with
    domestic iron that has more than 200K and still going strong.

    We put probably 100,000+ miles on the Frontier, know we did 135,00+/-
    with the Honda in late 70s to early 80s.

    Title: Navy S.O.S. (Minced Beef) DD> Categories: Beef,
    Vegetables DD> Yield: 10 Servings

    Never heard of or saw that at home when I was growing up.

    We had S.O.S. fairly often when I was a youngster. Both the hamburger based and the "real" sliced, dried beef versions .... depending on how close it was to payday. Bv)=

    Mom did other things to stretch the budget but never S.O.S.

    Since your Dad was in Unc's Yacht Club he probably put the kibosh on
    that.

    Most likely so. (G) First time I had it was in college, made with ground
    beef and served on a gritty roll. At the time, the school newspaper
    printed menus for the week ahead; they called it S.O.S. to nobody's
    (that I was aware of) objection. When the school opened up their new
    campus center with a cafeteria (instead of the under the dorms family
    style meals), they stopped printing the menus.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Aug 2 16:21:35 2024
    Re: Towing the Line [1]
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Thu Aug 01 2024 08:14 pm

    Hi Carol,

    classmates to make cider. IIRC, they were able to make several gallons splitting the yield so some went back to the college, some stayed with my parents.

    Sounds like a plan for my apple cider! I won't try to ferment it, b next year might, For now, I don't have containers to do that properly.

    Do you have space in your freezer? Cider does freeze well, just have to make sure you leave some head room. That way you can enjoy last year's batch when the trees are blooming for this year's crop. (G)

    Thats problematic. I'm shy of space in the frezer!

    And still more summer crops to harvest. (G) Guess you will have to
    either get creative in your arrainging of what goes in to free up space
    or bite the bullet and get a new freezer. I'm still re-arrainging my
    fridge freezer and the big one from the melt down of a couple of weeks
    ago, finding I have more room than I thought I did.


    Yup! Trying to eat up stuff from the chest freezer. Making some inroads on it but slowly. Grr.

    xxcarol
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Shawn Highfield on Sat Aug 3 05:11:00 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    camp/ travel trailer is, in fact, a full blown red-neck mansion
    (mobile home).

    It is, one from the 1970's or before. It's old old old. We're
    hoping to get a new one after Andrea is done this round of schooling.
    I want to hang onto this one for as long as possible due to having so
    much space.

    My tin can was a 1974 model. I was pretty satisfied with it and likely
    would be in it today paying the monthly lot rent - if not for the black
    mold that took it over whilst I was staying with my bother recuperating
    fro gall bladder surgery. Then I bought this place and salvaged what I
    could to stock my house ... but had to leave a lot of "treasures" to be
    hauled to the landfill when the demolition guys wrecked out the trailer.

    T'was. Last night I did a bag of pre-mixed lettuce salad with a
    couple of those 'mters chopped up, some sunflower seeds and shredded Cheddar, covered in Russian dressing. I was stuffed. Bv)=

    That sounds good. I had some bag-o-salad, onions, carrot, cuke, cheese deli ham salad with ranch dressing (which I dislike as a dressing but
    was all I had and it was too hot to shake a mason jar.

    I prefer my ranch dressig as a dipping sauce if someone slips chicken
    nuggets into my take away bag. My really fvourite salad dressing is a
    Thousand Islands base with shredded Gorgonzola cheese.

    I'm pretty much a carnivore but every once in a while I'll do soething
    like that or a totally vegetarian dinner - usually from a boil-in-bag
    or cafe' steamers selection. Or make a "baked" potato in the microwave
    and top it w/butter, shredded Cheddar and some bacon bits.

    Title: Russian Salad Dressing

    Saved this once before but moving it up the list to a "totry this year" database. LOL

    Here's an easy one using 1000 Island gressing. I usually do it w/boned,
    skinned thighs. You can use whatever pieces suit you. Marylands (leg
    quarters) - unskinned have been used also.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Thousand Island Baked Chicken
    Categories: Five, Poultry, Fruits, Sauces
    Yield: 2 Servings

    Chicken pieces; skinned
    8 oz Bottle 1000 Island dressing
    14 oz Jar apricot preserves
    1 1/4 oz Pkg dry onion soup mix

    Place chicken in an 8" X 8" casserole dish. Mix the next
    3 ingredients and layer over chicken. Bake, covered @
    350?F/175?C for 1 hour and 30 minutes.

    Serve with rice.

    From: http://www.cooks.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Aug 3 05:47:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Hi Dave,


    Hardee's bought the Roy Rogers operation for their fried chicken and
    the roast beast came with. I used to enjoy watcheing the slicer "go to town" when they were making up a sandwich. And the fried chicken was *great*. Much better than Kentucky Fried Colonel for my $$$. And they
    got quite a bit of it before Carl's Jr. bought them and discontinued
    both the roast beef and the chicken. Bv(=

    There's a Roy Rogers in Winchester, VA. We stopped there last November
    on our way up north and yes, we got (good) roast beef sandwiches. Might make it a more often stop.

    The chain started in Ft. Wayne, IN as an outgrowth of Azar's Big Boy.

    The Roy Rogers chain was sold in 1990 to Imasco, then the parent company
    of Hardee's, and experienced severe decline as many locations converted
    to Hardee's. In 2002, the trademark was purchased by Plamondon Companies.

    It has been a while since we've been in a Carl's Jr; having the camper
    we now usually fix our own lunches. IIRC, the menua are similr, but,
    as you say, slight differences. I can't recall specific ones tho.

    The one thing that Carl's Jr. brought to Hardee's that I think is a
    plus is the "Frisco" burger - a 1/3-pound charbroiled Black Angus
    beef patty covered in Swiss cheese, mayo, tomatoes, and bacon
    sandwiched between toasted sourdough.

    And now they have a BLT version which adds lettuce and more tomato and bacon. Right now they're offering 50% off in their app so I've had a
    few of those. By itself it's a meal.

    I've seen it advertised on tv, both a chicken version and a beef
    version. I think I'd go for the chicken, but take the chicken out and
    have it on the side. We don't have the app so would pay full price if
    we went for it. Today's lunch was splitting a chicken bake at Costco; I had an appointment down in Raleigh, ran some other errands (including Costco) before going to the dr. Not the greatest but it beats a burger
    or their pizza.

    Do the Hardee's in your area do coupons? I get a monthly mailing from
    some marketing outfit. Yesterday's haul had coupons for Popeyes, Subway,
    Burger King, Hardee's and Little Caesar's (who have improved their pizza greatly). Once in a while there is even a McD's sheet of coupons.

    The bundle also contains window, siding and gutter hutles. As well as a
    BelTone hearing aid flyer and general beauty & bath merch coupons.

    8<----- SNIP----->8

    My brother did a tour in Vietnam. To this day he will not eat rice.

    I'm not surprised. Back when our older daughter and her husband bought
    a Mitsubishi Eclipse, my dad didn't like the car because it was
    Japanese (one of his ships was hit by an--unsuccessful--kamikaze
    attack). He did buy German cars tho.

    Well, Mitsubishi did manufacture the Zero and other aeroplaes before switching back to cars after the war.

    Which is why my dad was not happy to see our SIL's car.

    Bv)= In actuality it's the Japanese manufacturers who made Detroit "up their game" quality-wise. Used to be if you had a car the lasted for
    100K miles it was rare, Then came the post-WWII Japanese cars. Now
    it's not uncommon for me to wait on customers at AutoZone with
    domestic iron that has more than 200K and still going strong.

    We put probably 100,000+ miles on the Frontier, know we did 135,00+/-
    with the Honda in late 70s to early 80s.

    I had an '87 Honda Accord I'd likely still be driving had that tool
    truck (Mac Tools dealer) not blown a stop sign just as I was entering
    the intersection. 30 mph to zero in a jiffy. And a dandy cut on my
    forehead. I did have my seatbelt on which no doubt saved more hurts.
    At the time it was wrecked it had over 200,000 miles on it.

    My current ride, Bruno the Beemer has been to the moon and is on his
    way home - 250,000 miles and still going strong.

    Title: Navy S.O.S. (Minced Beef) DD> Categories: Beef,
    Vegetables DD> Yield: 10 Servings

    Never heard of or saw that at home when I was growing up.

    We had S.O.S. fairly often when I was a youngster. Both the hamburger based and the "real" sliced, dried beef versions .... depending on how close it was to payday. Bv)=

    Mom did other things to stretch the budget but never S.O.S.

    Since your Dad was in Unc's Yacht Club he probably put the kibosh on
    that.

    Most likely so. (G) First time I had it was in college, made with
    ground beef and served on a gritty roll. At the time, the school
    newspaper printed menus for the week ahead; they called it S.O.S. to nobody's (that I was aware of) objection. When the school opened up
    their new campus center with a cafeteria (instead of the under the
    dorms family style meals), they stopped printing the menus.

    Well, yeah. But a list of available choices would have been nice. I'm
    not, and never have been a fan of cafeteria-style eating. If I'm doing
    "pick it yourself" pre-made dishes give me the wretched excess of a
    good ol' buffet.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Luby's Ratatouille
    Categories: Vegetables, Squash
    Yield: 8 Servings

    1/4 c Olive oil
    2 md Yellow squash; in 3/4" pcs
    1 md Zucchini; in 3/4" pieces
    1 md Eggplant; in 3/4" pieces
    1 c Bell pepper; cored, seeded,
    - diced
    1 c Onion; chopped
    1 tb Dill seed
    1 ts Garlic; minced
    1 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Pepper
    1 md Tomato; diced

    In a large skillet, heat the oil over medium heat. Add
    the squashes, eggplant, green bell pepper, and onion.
    Cook for 5 to 7 minutes or until the vegetables are
    almost tender, stirring frequently.

    Add the dill seed, garlic, salt, and pepper. Continue
    cooking for 1 minute or until the vegetables are tender,
    stirring frequently. Sprinkle with the diced tomato.

    Makes 8 servings.

    TIP: Do not peel the eggplant for this recipe. The deep
    purple skin adds appealing color and texture contrast.

    Recipe: "Luby's Cafeteria 50th Anniversary Recipe
    Collection" (Luby's Cafeterias, Inc., $9.95)

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Fri Aug 2 15:10:35 2024
    Hi Shawn,

    younger. The singles are all of college age or older, here mostly
    because of the seminary and college but some locals with no school connection. It's a small property but has a lot of trees so a lot of
    hand mowing has to be done.

    Nice to have a young group though, it means your chruch will be there
    for a while yet. The one I went to has recently closed after over 100 years it's sad because it has one of the most beautiful pipe organs
    ever in it and it still works. :)

    We hope it will, it went thru a split about 5 years ago and have been rebuilding since. The building and property were given to us about 17
    years ago by a church that had to close but we had to spend several
    years bringing it all up to city code before we moved in. A lot of sweat
    equity went into it but well worth it. No organ of any type/size, just a
    piano and a couple of guitars.

    Of course now the homeless have taken over the property so I'm sure
    they will break in and destroy the church soon.

    Hopefully not.


    family--visited Halifax and docked in Sydney but we took the bus tour
    up to Badeck. Steve has said he wants to go back to Badeck, see some Canada, so we may head that way some summer.

    There is a lot to see around this area. Petroglyphs, caves,
    waterfalls, big city's, small villages. Just don't waste your time visiting The dirty Shwa as there is nothing here. ;)

    So, well worth condsidering a trip up there. What's the local "gotta
    have if you're in the area" food?


    willing to eat whole wheat pasta & brown rice than older daughter's.
    But, she tried--her husband is more meat and potatoes than how she
    was brought up.

    My father is like that. Likes his meat, potatoes and veg. ;)

    My dad was like that, potatoes had to be mashed 99.99% of the time, rest
    of the time, fries or baked was acceptable.Mom never scrubbed the
    skin on baking potatoes so we couldn't eat that.


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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Dave Drum on Sun Aug 4 07:34:00 2024
    Hi Dave,
    On <Sun, 03 Aug 24>, you wrote me:

    My tin can was a 1974 model. I was pretty satisfied with it and
    likely would be in it today paying the monthly lot rent - if not for
    mold that took it over whilst I was staying with my bother
    recuperating fro gall bladder surgery.

    We have no idea what year ours is. There are no plaques or
    ownership. The owner of the trailpark bought the park from his
    grandmother and he told me it's been there as long as he can rememebr.

    As for black mold, Andrea and I lost a lot of things to it in a house we
    rented in Whitby in 2004 or 5. Including my xmas tree that had things
    over 100 years old.

    nuggets into my take away bag. My really fvourite salad dressing is a Thousand Islands base with shredded Gorgonzola cheese.

    Something else I prefer as a dipping sauce over a salad dressing, but every
    so often I like it.

    boil-in-bag or cafe' steamers selection. Or make a "baked" potato in
    and top it w/butter, shredded Cheddar and some bacon bits.

    We've done them in teh nuker, but for some stupid reason we tend to eat
    baked taters in the woods and not at home.

    Here's an easy one using 1000 Island gressing. I usually do it
    w/boned, skinned thighs. You can use whatever pieces suit you.
    Marylands (leg quarters) - unskinned have been used also.
    Title: Thousand Island Baked Chicken

    I'm saving it just in case I get the urge for something like that. I've
    been "off" meat again which sucks but pretty much everything except
    fish is coming back up.

    Shawn


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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Aug 4 07:43:00 2024
    Hi Ruth,
    On <Sat, 02 Aug 24>, you wrote me:

    Of course now the homeless have taken over the property so I'm
    sure they will break in and destroy the church soon.
    Hopefully not.

    Already destroyed one of the kitchens. Was in the paper the other day.
    Won't take them long to set the building ablaze. We have a massive
    homeless / addict problem in this shitty.

    So, well worth condsidering a trip up there. What's the local "gotta
    have if you're in the area" food?

    If you're coming I'll get a list ready. :) If you do hit the dirty Shwa and want
    diner food though the best is the rainbow. Family run for decades and
    the food is great.

    My dad was like that, potatoes had to be mashed 99.99% of the time,
    rest of the time, fries or baked was acceptable.Mom never scrubbed
    the skin on baking potatoes so we couldn't eat that.

    Mashed is the easiest. :) I like mashed a lot but only if I make them. LOL

    Shawn


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Aug 4 06:17:31 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I've got a good number of them, mostly in paperback as they were accumulated while Steve was in the Army. Found Alaska on the free table
    at ReStore. Nook abridges them so I'm keeping my hard copy collection.

    So does Reader's Digress. AFAIK Kindle doesn't do that unless it tells
    you up front.

    Nook tells you in its store that it is abridges, saves me money. I need
    to transfer some of my other paperback to the Nook, clear off a shelf
    or 2. (G)

    It's nice that they warn you. I've aleady cleared (years ago) hard
    copies of books I feel were a "read once". Kindle has been on a tear
    recently trying to hustle audio books. AS if ........ I prefer jazz
    music for my listening. Although an audio book droning on and on will
    serve as a sleeping pill. Bv)=

    8<----- SHORTEN ----->8

    Late edit - disregard that paragraph. I see feom the following post
    that your toaster over in a convection/air fryer already. Still good advice.

    True, Steve took a quick look at an air fryer at Costco yesterday, told him that we don't need it. Fine with him as he's used the toaster oven
    on convection various times.

    Title: Air Fryer Sweet Potato Tots
    Categories: Five, Potatoes, Vegetables
    Yield: 4 Servings

    Easier just to buy a bag of sweet potato fries. That's what we do as
    I'm not especially fond of sweet potatoes. My mom's mom used to do the candied, with marshmallows every year for Thanksgiving and every year
    my parents made us take some. It was always the consistancy of baby
    food and overly sweet; to this day I don't know if any of my siblings
    can look at a sweet potato civilly. I can look at it, bake it, serve
    it, but not eat it.

    I like sweet potatoes and I like Tater Tots. But I buy my Tots frozen,
    never made my own. And have yet to see sweet potato tots at the store.
    I do see, and buy on occasion, sweet potato chips. Plain or flavoured.

    If Yo' granny's candied sweet potatoes were the consistency of pap (baby
    food) she was over-cooking the dish. I've had it many Thanksgivings and
    it always was (to borrow a pasta term) al dente. And tooth achingly sweet.
    The marshmallows had much to do with that. But the sorghum/moasses did a
    lot to compound the felony. Bv)= Not one of my favourites - but do-able
    if there were nuts added.

    If I ever make this I'll likely add some chile to offset the sweet.
    But it does look good for a holiday gathering.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Candied Yams w/Pecans
    Categories: Potatoes, Nuts, Herbs, Candy
    Yield: 12 servings

    64 oz (2 cans) yams; drained
    1 1/2 c Chopped pecans
    1 c Butter
    1 c Honey (raw honey is best)
    1 c Light brown sugar (dark
    - brown sugar is too sweet)
    2 ts (to 3 ts) ground cinnamon
    1 ts Ground nutmeg
    1/2 Bag miniature marshmallows
    - (the large ones don't work
    - well)

    Set oven @ 375ºF/190ºC.

    Lightly grease a 9" X 13" X 2" baking dish (avoid a
    deep-dish baking pan); set aside

    In medium mixing bowl lightly mash yams - leave yams
    slightly lumpy. Fold in pecans; set aside.

    In small sauce pan, heat butter and honey, allow to
    simmer and melt. Add brown sugar, cinnamon and nutmeg,
    and stir until creamy; stir butter mixture into the yam
    mixture. Transfer seasoned yams to the greased baking
    dish.

    Cover dish, and bake for 30 minutes. Remove from oven.
    Uncover and sprinkle miniature marshmallows over yams.
    Bake uncovered for another 10 minutes or until
    marshmallows are lightly toasted.

    Vickie Parks, Renton, Washington

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.justapinch.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Aug 3 11:59:32 2024
    Hi Carol,

    Do you have space in your freezer? Cider does freeze well, just have to make sure you leave some head room. That way you can enjoy last year's batch when the trees are blooming for this year's crop. (G)

    Thats problematic. I'm shy of space in the frezer!

    And still more summer crops to harvest. (G) Guess you will have to
    either get creative in your arrainging of what goes in to free up space
    or bite the bullet and get a new freezer. I'm still re-arrainging my
    fridge freezer and the big one from the melt down of a couple of weeks
    ago, finding I have more room than I thought I did.

    Yup! Trying to eat up stuff from the chest freezer. Making some
    inroads on it but slowly. Grr.

    I know the feeling; we've been trying to "eat down the freezer" for a
    couple of years. There's a lot of meat stored in it; Steve likes to grab
    things on sale for future smoking. I'm slowly but surely using up the
    stock pile plus various other things we popped in there.

    ---
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Aug 3 19:28:07 2024
    Hi Dave,

    There's a Roy Rogers in Winchester, VA. We stopped there last November
    on our way up north and yes, we got (good) roast beef sandwiches. Might make it a more often stop.

    The chain started in Ft. Wayne, IN as an outgrowth of Azar's Big Boy.
    The Roy Rogers chain was sold in 1990 to Imasco, then the parent
    company of Hardee's, and experienced severe decline as many
    locations DD> converted to Hardee's. In 2002, the trademark was
    purchased by DD> Plamondon Companies.

    So they've been around a while, not as long as McD's. Found out Zaxbys
    (another southern chain) was founded in the 90s, still a youngster
    compared to some.

    It has been a while since we've been in a Carl's Jr; having the
    camper RH> we now usually fix our own lunches. IIRC, the menua are
    similr, but, RH> as you say, slight differences. I can't recall
    specific ones tho.

    The one thing that Carl's Jr. brought to Hardee's that I think is a
    plus is the "Frisco" burger - a 1/3-pound charbroiled Black Angus
    beef patty covered in Swiss cheese, mayo, tomatoes, and bacon
    sandwiched between toasted sourdough.

    And now they have a BLT version which adds lettuce and more tomato and bacon. Right now they're offering 50% off in their app so I've had a
    few of those. By itself it's a meal.

    I've seen it advertised on tv, both a chicken version and a beef
    version. I think I'd go for the chicken, but take the chicken out and
    have it on the side. We don't have the app so would pay full price if
    we went for it. Today's lunch was splitting a chicken bake at Costco; I had an appointment down in Raleigh, ran some other errands (including Costco) before going to the dr. Not the greatest but it beats a burger
    or their pizza.

    Do the Hardee's in your area do coupons? I get a monthly mailing from
    some marketing outfit. Yesterday's haul had coupons for Popeyes,
    Subway, Burger King, Hardee's and Little Caesar's (who have improved
    their pizza greatly). Once in a while there is even a McD's sheet of coupons.

    Yes, we get the recycle bag flyer with all sorts of coupons. Haven't
    seen the Hardee's one in a while, last set was for Subway and BK.


    The bundle also contains window, siding and gutter hutles. As well as
    a BelTone hearing aid flyer and general beauty & bath merch coupons.

    Fodder for the recycle bag.

    8<----- SNIP----->8


    We put probably 100,000+ miles on the Frontier, know we did 135,00+/-
    with the Honda in late 70s to early 80s.

    I had an '87 Honda Accord I'd likely still be driving had that tool
    truck (Mac Tools dealer) not blown a stop sign just as I was entering
    the intersection. 30 mph to zero in a jiffy. And a dandy cut on my forehead. I did have my seatbelt on which no doubt saved more hurts.
    At the time it was wrecked it had over 200,000 miles on it.

    My current ride, Bruno the Beemer has been to the moon and is on his
    way home - 250,000 miles and still going strong.

    We're still working on the frist hunderd thousand on the F-150, bought
    it with about 58,000 on and I think we're somewhere in the 80s now. Got
    the truck end of February/beginning of March last year.


    Mom did other things to stretch the budget but never S.O.S.

    Since your Dad was in Unc's Yacht Club he probably put the kibosh on
    that.

    Most likely so. (G) First time I had it was in college, made with
    ground beef and served on a gritty roll. At the time, the school
    newspaper printed menus for the week ahead; they called it S.O.S. to nobody's (that I was aware of) objection. When the school opened up
    their new campus center with a cafeteria (instead of the under the
    dorms family style meals), they stopped printing the menus.

    Well, yeah. But a list of available choices would have been nice. I'm
    not, and never have been a fan of cafeteria-style eating. If I'm doing "pick it yourself" pre-made dishes give me the wretched excess of a
    good ol' buffet.

    It was (at that time) basically offer of 2 entrees, about 4 sides, a
    couple of desserts. Lunch time always had a tossed salad available also.
    Now there's all kinds of choices, traditional, vegan and so on, with a
    proper salad bar. (We stopped there in May, on our way to Ohio from
    visiting family in the Rochester, NY area & had lunch there.)


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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Dave Drum on Mon Aug 5 06:21:00 2024
    Hi Dave,
    In a message to Ruth Haffly you wrote:

    It's nice that they warn you. I've aleady cleared (years ago) hard
    copies of books I feel were a "read once". Kindle has been on a tear

    Just donated all of my "dead tree" editions. Been storing them for years
    and well if I forgot I read it I'll enjoy it again on the kndle. ;)

    recently trying to hustle audio books. AS if ........ I prefer jazz
    music for my listening. Although an audio book droning on and on will serve as a sleeping pill. Bv)=

    I really dislike the kindle interface now. Why won't books I've read piss off? now they always exist in the library and it's anoying. (to me)

    I like sweet potatoes and I like Tater Tots. But I buy my Tots
    frozen, never made my own. And have yet to see sweet potato tots at

    I made them twice I think. Since they dont' make a gluten free version frozen, when Vincent was younger and even more picky, and Andrea was wanting a
    tot. It's one of those things, the frozen chemical filled ones are just better. ;)

    If I ever make this I'll likely add some chile to offset the sweet.
    But it does look good for a holiday gathering.

    Sweet taters for us are simple. Bake them until tender. Split and add butter and salt. Enjoy.

    Shawn


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Shawn Highfield on Mon Aug 5 04:30:00 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    My tin can was a 1974 model. I was pretty satisfied with it and
    likely would be in it today paying the monthly lot rent - if not for
    mold that took it over whilst I was staying with my bother
    recuperating fro gall bladder surgery.

    We have no idea what year ours is. There are no plaques or
    ownership. The owner of the trailpark bought the park from his grandmother and he told me it's been there as long as he can rememebr.

    Mine had a "builder's plate" right next to the circuit breaker box.

    As for black mold, Andrea and I lost a lot of things to it in a house
    we rented in Whitby in 2004 or 5. Including my xmas tree that had
    things over 100 years old.

    Owtch

    nuggets into my take away bag. My really fvourite salad dressing is a Thousand Islands base with shredded Gorgonzola cheese.

    Something else I prefer as a dipping sauce over a salad dressing, but every so often I like it.

    boil-in-bag or cafe' steamers selection. Or make a "baked" potato in
    and top it w/butter, shredded Cheddar and some bacon bits.

    We've done them in teh nuker, but for some stupid reason we tend to eat baked taters in the woods and not at home.

    Takes me 5 minutes to nuke a "baked" potato to the edible stage. And
    5 minutes to nuke bacon to crispy. A fortuitous match up.

    Here's an easy one using 1000 Island gressing. I usually do it
    w/boned, skinned thighs. You can use whatever pieces suit you.
    Marylands (leg quarters) - unskinned have been used also.
    Title: Thousand Island Baked Chicken

    I'm saving it just in case I get the urge for something like that.
    I've been "off" meat again which sucks but pretty much everything
    except fish is coming back up.

    You've mentioned that before. Medical science hasn't come up with an
    answer for you?

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dirty Dave's Grilled Fish Steaks
    Categories: Seafood, Marinades, Citrus
    Yield: 4 Servings

    2 lb Firm-fleshed fish such as
    - Marlin, Blackfish, Shark
    - or Swordfish; in steaks
    - about 1" (or more) thick

    MMMMM--------------------------MARINADE-------------------------------
    1/4 c Olive oil
    2 tb Lemon juice
    1 tb Minced rosemary or dill

    MMMMM---------------------HORSERADISH BUTTER--------------------------
    1/4 c Butter
    2 tb Drained, prepared horse
    - radish
    1/8 ts (ea) cayenne & salt

    MMMMM--------------------HONEY-MUSTARD BUTTER-------------------------
    1/4 c Butter
    4 tb Dijon-style mustard
    1/2 ts Honey

    MMMMM------------------------LEMON BUTTER-----------------------------
    1/4 c Butter
    1/4 ts (to 1/2 ts) grated lemon
    - zest
    2 ts Lemon Juice
    1/8 ts (ea) cayenne & salt

    MMMMM------------------------HERB BUTTER-----------------------------
    1/4 c Butter
    3 tb Chopped, mixed tarragon,
    - parsley and chives
    1/4 ts Grated lemon zest
    2 ts Lemon juice
    1/8 ts (ea) cayenne & salt

    Make the marinade by whisking together the ingredients.
    Put the fish and marinade in a self-sealing plastic bag.
    Refrigerate for no more than 1/2 hour. Marinating too long
    will spoil the flavor and texture of fish.

    Drain the fish and pour the marinade into a small pan and
    heat at the side of the grill to brush on the fish while
    grilling.

    Oil the grill well or use a well-oiled, hinged, grilling
    basket. Fish cooks fairly quickly. Depending on thickness,
    it will need only between 4 and 15 minutes total and will
    probably have to be turned only once on the grill.

    Use a wide oiled spatula to turn it if done directly on the
    grill. The flesh near the center should almost flake and
    should be moist when tested with a fork. Baste with
    reserved marinade.

    Serve immediately with a flavoured butter as a garnish.

    And that's as good as I can do here in the Great
    American Outback 800 or so miles from the nearest
    seashore. The blackfish (tautog) is probably my
    favourite for this treatment. But, shark and swordfish
    are a lot more readily available.

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Aug 5 05:54:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    There's a Roy Rogers in Winchester, VA. We stopped there last November
    on our way up north and yes, we got (good) roast beef sandwiches. Might make it a more often stop.

    The chain started in Ft. Wayne, IN as an outgrowth of Azar's Big Boy.
    The Roy Rogers chain was sold in 1990 to Imasco, then the parent
    company of Hardee's, and experienced severe decline as many
    locations converted to Hardee's. In 2002, the trademark was
    purchased by Plamondon Companies.

    So they've been around a while, not as long as McD's. Found out Zaxbys (another southern chain) was founded in the 90s, still a youngster compared to some.

    Hardee's came to my town when they bought the Sandy's chain of fats food joints. They were almost as old (1956) as McD's - but, obviously, not as durable.

    It has been a while since we've been in a Carl's Jr; having the
    camper we now usually fix our own lunches. IIRC, the menua are
    similr, but, as you say, slight differences. I can't recall
    specific ones tho.

    The one thing that Carl's Jr. brought to Hardee's that I think is a
    plus is the "Frisco" burger - a 1/3-pound charbroiled Black Angus
    beef patty covered in Swiss cheese, mayo, tomatoes, and bacon
    sandwiched between toasted sourdough.

    And now they have a BLT version which adds lettuce and more tomato and bacon. Right now they're offering 50% off in their app so I've had a
    few of those. By itself it's a meal.

    I've seen it advertised on tv, both a chicken version and a beef
    version. I think I'd go for the chicken, but take the chicken out and
    have it on the side. We don't have the app so would pay full price if
    we went for it. Today's lunch was splitting a chicken bake at Costco; I had an appointment down in Raleigh, ran some other errands (including Costco) before going to the dr. Not the greatest but it beats a burger
    or their pizza.

    I've got apps for Hardee's, Wendy's, Popeyes, Arby's, Domino's Pizza and
    Jimmy John's (subs). They are a convenience for me. Not to mention there
    are a lot of "app/on-line only" specials I take adbvantage.

    Popeyes just wound up a "Buy 6 wings ($5.99) and get another 6 for $1."
    That was supper last night for both me and Dennis - and the mutts loved
    the bones.

    Used to have McD's app but Itook it off because they got overly picky on
    usage and flooded my e-mail with (not so) "specials".

    Do the Hardee's in your area do coupons? I get a monthly mailing from
    some marketing outfit. Yesterday's haul had coupons for Popeyes,
    Subway, Burger King, Hardee's and Little Caesar's (who have improved
    their pizza greatly). Once in a while there is even a McD's sheet of coupons.

    Yes, we get the recycle bag flyer with all sorts of coupons. Haven't
    seen the Hardee's one in a while, last set was for Subway and BK.

    The bundle also contains window, siding and gutter hutles. As well as
    a BelTone hearing aid flyer and general beauty & bath merch coupons.

    Fodder for the recycle bag.

    True dat.

    8<----- SNIP----->8

    We put probably 100,000+ miles on the Frontier, know we did 135,00+/-
    with the Honda in late 70s to early 80s.

    I had an '87 Honda Accord I'd likely still be driving had that tool
    truck (Mac Tools dealer) not blown a stop sign just as I was entering
    the intersection. 30 mph to zero in a jiffy. And a dandy cut on my forehead. I did have my seatbelt on which no doubt saved more hurts.
    At the time it was wrecked it had over 200,000 miles on it.

    My current ride, Bruno the Beemer has been to the moon and is on his
    way home - 250,000 miles and still going strong.

    We're still working on the frist hunderd thousand on the F-150, bought
    it with about 58,000 on and I think we're somewhere in the 80s now. Got the truck end of February/beginning of March last year.

    I don't flit about the country as much as I used to. Last non-local (over
    100 miles) trip I did was the last picnic at Dale & Gail's.

    Mom did other things to stretch the budget but never S.O.S.

    Since your Dad was in Unc's Yacht Club he probably put the kibosh on
    that.

    Most likely so. (G) First time I had it was in college, made with
    ground beef and served on a gritty roll. At the time, the school
    newspaper printed menus for the week ahead; they called it S.O.S. to nobody's (that I was aware of) objection. When the school opened up
    their new campus center with a cafeteria (instead of the under the
    dorms family style meals), they stopped printing the menus.

    Well, yeah. But a list of available choices would have been nice. I'm
    not, and never have been a fan of cafeteria-style eating. If I'm doing "pick it yourself" pre-made dishes give me the wretched excess of a
    good ol' buffet.

    It was (at that time) basically offer of 2 entrees, about 4 sides, a couple of desserts. Lunch time always had a tossed salad available
    also. Now there's all kinds of choices, traditional, vegan and so on,
    with a proper salad bar. (We stopped there in May, on our way to Ohio
    from visiting family in the Rochester, NY area & had lunch there.)

    Was this at your college? Most campus dining halls don't do "walk-ins".
    Unless it's run as a concession by an outside party.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Buffet Green Beans
    Categories: Five, Beans, Citrus, Mushrooms, Grains
    Yield: 30 servings

    5 lb Cleaned, whole green beans
    1/4 c Fresh squeezed lemon juice
    1 lb Sliced fresh mushrooms
    1/4 lb Butter
    1/4 c Toasted sesame seeds
    Salt & pepper

    In a large frying pan or wok, heat HALF of the butter,
    adding the mushrooms as the butter melts over medium
    high heat.

    As the mushrooms start to brown, place the green beans
    directly over the mushrooms and cook for one minute.

    Stir the vegetables, combining well and let steam for
    one minute.

    Add the lemon juice and stir well and cook for 2
    minutes, letting the vegetables steam.

    Stir again and when the green beans are a deep green
    color, add the rest of the butter and sprinkle with the
    sesame seeds.

    Quckly stir together and remove from heat.

    Sprinkle with salt and pepper to your taste. Your green
    beans should be crisp at this point.

    Place it all in a serving vessel and serve hot.

    By: Annie Aime, Los Angeles , California

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.grouprecipes.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Aug 4 19:50:01 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Nook tells you in its store that it is abridges, saves me money. I need
    to transfer some of my other paperback to the Nook, clear off a shelf
    or 2. (G)

    It's nice that they warn you. I've aleady cleared (years ago) hard
    copies of books I feel were a "read once". Kindle has been on a tear recently trying to hustle audio books. AS if ........ I prefer jazz
    music for my listening. Although an audio book droning on and on will serve as a sleeping pill. Bv)=

    I prefer non audio books also. Steve and I usually don't have the same
    reading preferences so I'd not want him to have to listen to what I
    like. It would also interfere with his radio-ing. I know, ear plugs but
    I also don't want to just sit, listening to a book. If I were doing
    other things, then I wouldn't be able to concentrate on the book.

    8<----- SHORTEN ----->8


    Easier just to buy a bag of sweet potato fries. That's what we do as
    I'm not especially fond of sweet potatoes. My mom's mom used to do the candied, with marshmallows every year for Thanksgiving and every year
    my parents made us take some. It was always the consistancy of baby
    food and overly sweet; to this day I don't know if any of my siblings
    can look at a sweet potato civilly. I can look at it, bake it, serve
    it, but not eat it.

    I like sweet potatoes and I like Tater Tots. But I buy my Tots frozen, never made my own. And have yet to see sweet potato tots at the store.
    I do see, and buy on occasion, sweet potato chips. Plain or flavoured.

    I'll eat the Terro veggie chips that have sweet potato as one of several veggies but not regular sweet potato chips, fries, potatoes or what have
    you.

    If Yo' granny's candied sweet potatoes were the consistency of pap
    (baby food) she was over-cooking the dish. I've had it many DD>
    Thanksgivings and it always was (to borrow a pasta term) al dente. And
    tooth achingly sweet. The marshmallows had much to do with that.
    But DD> the sorghum/moasses did a lot to compound the felony. Bv)=
    Not one DD> of my favourites - but do-able if there were nuts added.

    I don't know if she started with raw or canned potatoes, just knew I
    didn't like them. Us kids used to call them "baby food" as they were
    about the conistancy of, maybe strained, baby food.

    If I ever make this I'll likely add some chile to offset the sweet.
    But it does look good for a holiday gathering.


    Title: Candied Yams w/Pecans
    Categories: Potatoes, Nuts, Herbs, Candy
    Yield: 12 servings

    You're more than welcome to my share of it. (G)

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    Ruth
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Dave Drum on Tue Aug 6 06:17:00 2024
    Hi Dave,
    On <Tue, 05 Aug 24>, you wrote me:

    Mine had a "builder's plate" right next to the circuit breaker box.

    Our old one did. This one not so much, it could have been an empty
    shell that someone built on... we just don't know.

    Takes me 5 minutes to nuke a "baked" potato to the edible stage. And
    5 minutes to nuke bacon to crispy. A fortuitous match up.

    THat is handy!

    You've mentioned that before. Medical science hasn't come up with an answer for you?

    I'd have to go to the doctor for that and quite frankly I don't want to bother. Just as easy to eat a lot less meat and see what happens. Andrea made
    chickpea curry last night, it was just a jar sauce I thought it was okay, she took one bite and said too spicy. So I have some for lunch today. :)

    Shawn

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Shawn Highfield on Tue Aug 6 06:05:00 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    It's nice that they warn you. I've aleady cleared (years ago) hard
    copies of books I feel were a "read once". Kindle has been on a tear

    Just donated all of my "dead tree" editions. Been storing them for
    years and well if I forgot I read it I'll enjoy it again on the kndle.
    ;)

    recently trying to hustle audio books. AS if ........ I prefer jazz
    music for my listening. Although an audio book droning on and on will serve as a sleeping pill. Bv)=

    I really dislike the kindle interface now. Why won't books I've read
    piss off? now they always exist in the library and it's anoying. (to
    me)

    I get them off my Kindle when I'm finished reading. I just tap "remove download" on the home page menu. It's still listed on the Amazon website
    on the Digital Content page. I have (currently 25 pages of books) The
    books I've read ae noted as "READ". And if I'm offered a book that looks interesting and I click on it to get it it's obvious if I already have
    that title.

    I like sweet potatoes and I like Tater Tots. But I buy my Tots
    frozen, never made my own. And have yet to see sweet potato tots at

    I made them twice I think. Since they dont' make a gluten free version frozen, when Vincent was younger and even more picky, and Andrea was wanting a tot. It's one of those things, the frozen chemical filled
    ones are just better. ;)

    And lots easier. My favourite breakfast 'taters are the little square
    cubes - sometimes called cottage fries or hash browns (not the shredded
    ones) with a garlic-butter sauce lightly applied.

    If I ever make this I'll likely add some chile to offset the sweet.
    But it does look good for a holiday gathering.

    Sweet taters for us are simple. Bake them until tender. Split and add butter and salt. Enjoy.

    Ever do them in th \e microwave?

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Garlic Butter Sauce
    Categories: Five, Vegetables, Herbs
    Yield: 12 Servings

    4 tb Chopped garlic
    Garlic granules; optional *
    14 oz Can chicken broth
    1/2 lb Butter; cold, diced
    +=OR=+
    1 c Butter flavoured oil
    4 tb Flat leaf parsley; chopped
    - very small

    * if the sauce is not "garlicky" enough for your
    taster add some garlic granules until the desired
    degree of pungency is reached. -- UDD

    In a small saucepan, over medium heat, combine the
    garlic and broth.

    Bring to a boil and reduce by half.

    Whisk in the butter, 1 cube at a time, until all of the
    butter is incorporated and the sauce coats the back of
    a spoon.

    Add the parsley and mix well.

    Really great on breakfast hash browns or cottage
    fries. Makes a very good diping sauce for shrimp,
    scallops, lobster, etc. Also great for popping
    popcorn. - UDD

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.food.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Aug 6 06:08:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I prefer non audio books also. Steve and I usually don't have the same reading preferences so I'd not want him to have to listen to what I
    like. It would also interfere with his radio-ing. I know, ear plugs but
    I also don't want to just sit, listening to a book. If I were doing
    other things, then I wouldn't be able to concentrate on the book.

    BINGO!

    8<----- SHORTEN ----->8

    I like sweet potatoes and I like Tater Tots. But I buy my Tots frozen, never made my own. And have yet to see sweet potato tots at the store.
    I do see, and buy on occasion, sweet potato chips. Plain or flavoured.

    I'll eat the Terro veggie chips that have sweet potato as one of
    several veggies but not regular sweet potato chips, fries, potatoes or what have you.

    If Yo' granny's candied sweet potatoes were the consistency of pap
    (baby food) she was over-cooking the dish. I've had it many
    Thanksgivings and it always was (to borrow a pasta term) al dente. And tooth achingly sweet. The marshmallows had much to do with that.
    But the sorghum/moasses did a lot to compound the felony. Bv)=
    Not one of my favourites - but do-able if there were nuts added.

    I don't know if she started with raw or canned potatoes, just knew I didn't like them. Us kids used to call them "baby food" as they were
    about the conistancy of, maybe strained, baby food.

    If I ever make this I'll likely add some chile to offset the sweet.
    But it does look good for a holiday gathering.

    Title: Candied Yams w/Pecans
    Categories: Potatoes, Nuts, Herbs, Candy
    Yield: 12 servings

    You're more than welcome to my share of it. (G)

    Once upon a - the family drove to the south end of the staee to visit
    my Mom's aunts and uncles and cousins. Before we arrived she turned to
    the back seat and gtitted out "I don't care what they have for dinner
    you take some. And eat it. And not complpain."

    One of the dishes on offer was cooked turnips - which mother abhorred.
    So, throughout the meal one or the other of we three kids would ask,
    "why don't you have some more of these delicious turnips, Mom?"

    My dad just sat there with a beatific smile on his face.

    MMMMM---- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Ellen's Easy Boiled Turnips
    Categories: Five, Vegetables
    Yield: 2 servings

    4 md Turnips
    1 ts Salt
    pn Pepper
    1 tb Butter
    Water

    Peel and slice the turnips. Place them into a large
    saucepan and half-fill with water; add salt.

    On medium-high heat, bring turnips to a boil. Lower
    heat, cover, and simmer about 30 minutes or until
    tender. Drain into a colander and place back in
    saucepan.

    Partially mash with potato masher, adding butter as you
    mash. Turnips will be lumpy but slightly mashed. Add
    salt and pepper as desired.

    May add toppings of your choice, such as bacon bits,
    garlic, or shredded cheese

    By: Ellen Gwaltney Bales, Indianapolis, Indiana

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.justapinch.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Aug 5 13:28:37 2024
    Hi Dave,

    The chain started in Ft. Wayne, IN as an outgrowth of Azar's Big Boy.
    The Roy Rogers chain was sold in 1990 to Imasco, then the parent
    company of Hardee's, and experienced severe decline as many
    locations converted to Hardee's. In 2002, the trademark was
    purchased by Plamondon Companies.

    So they've been around a while, not as long as McD's. Found out Zaxbys (another southern chain) was founded in the 90s, still a youngster compared to some.

    Hardee's came to my town when they bought the Sandy's chain of fats
    food joints. They were almost as old (1956) as McD's - but, obviously,
    not as durable.

    McD's had better PR folks. (G) Seriously, it was probably the Golden
    Arches and the fact you could get the same cheap meal at whatever
    franchise you went to, whether it be in Peoria, IL or Peoria, AZ.


    I've got apps for Hardee's, Wendy's, Popeyes, Arby's, Domino's Pizza
    and Jimmy John's (subs). They are a convenience for me. Not to mention there are a lot of "app/on-line only" specials I take adbvantage.

    We've got no apps for any of the above and will keep it that way. Of
    your listing, we go to Arby's and Popeyes, but neither one one of them
    that often.

    Popeyes just wound up a "Buy 6 wings ($5.99) and get another 6 for
    $1." That was supper last night for both me and Dennis - and the mutts loved the bones.

    We went to Alpaca's (Peruvian chicken) yesterday after church, split a
    half chicken and several sides. Brought some chicken home that we had
    for supper.


    Used to have McD's app but Itook it off because they got overly picky
    on usage and flooded my e-mail with (not so) "specials".

    Do the Hardee's in your area do coupons? I get a monthly mailing from
    some marketing outfit. Yesterday's haul had coupons for Popeyes,
    Subway, Burger King, Hardee's and Little Caesar's (who have improved
    their pizza greatly). Once in a while there is even a McD's sheet of coupons.

    Yes, we get the recycle bag flyer with all sorts of coupons. Haven't
    seen the Hardee's one in a while, last set was for Subway and BK.

    The bundle also contains window, siding and gutter hutles. As well as
    a BelTone hearing aid flyer and general beauty & bath merch coupons.

    Fodder for the recycle bag.

    True dat.

    Our recycle can is usually fuller than the regular trash can.

    8<----- SNIP----->8


    We're still working on the frist hundred thousand on the F-150,
    bought RH> it with about 58,000 on and I think we're somewhere in the
    80s now. Got RH> the truck end of February/beginning of March last
    year.

    I don't flit about the country as much as I used to. Last non-local
    (over 100 miles) trip I did was the last picnic at Dale & Gail's.

    Considering our daughters and grandkids are in AZ and UT, it's easy to
    put on the miles going to visit them. We're seeing some of the National
    Parks in the southern UT region as we travel between our daughters.


    It was (at that time) basically offer of 2 entrees, about 4 sides, a couple of desserts. Lunch time always had a tossed salad available
    also. Now there's all kinds of choices, traditional, vegan and so on,
    with a proper salad bar. (We stopped there in May, on our way to Ohio
    from visiting family in the Rochester, NY area & had lunch there.)

    Was this at your college? Most campus dining halls don't do
    "walk-ins". Unless it's run as a concession by an outside party.

    It is run by an outside company with supplimental student staff. We were
    there over graduation week end/class of '74 reunion but we've been able
    to have a meal there other times.

    ---
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    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Shawn Highfield on Wed Aug 7 06:08:00 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Mine had a "builder's plate" right next to the circuit breaker box.

    Our old one did. This one not so much, it could have been an empty
    shell that someone built on... we just don't know.

    All you are sure of it that it's old and creaky but not old enough to
    be an archeological "find". Bv)=

    Takes me 5 minutes to nuke a "baked" potato to the edible stage. And
    5 minutes to nuke bacon to crispy. A fortuitous match up.

    THat is handy!

    You've mentioned that before. Medical science hasn't come up with an answer for you?

    I'd have to go to the doctor for that and quite frankly I don't want to bother. Just as easy to eat a lot less meat and see what happens.
    Andrea made chickpea curry last night, it was just a jar sauce I
    thought it was okay, she took one bite and said too spicy. So I have
    some for lunch today. :)

    I like going to the doctor - except for the problems it causes with my schedule. We have a big medical school here and they run a Family Medicine Center. My primary doc is a middle-aged white guy. But there are a lot
    of young doctors, either doing their "residency" or newly hired - of the
    cute female persuasion. I'm too old for the mating dance but my eyes do
    still work just fine. Bv)=

    'Nother good "fishy" food ....

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Tuna On Shingle - The Dim View
    Categories: Seafood, Soups, Dairy, Breads
    Yield: 3 Servings

    10 oz (2 cans) tuna; drained *
    1/3 c Diced bell pepper
    1/4 ts Black pepper
    1/4 ts Granulated garlic
    10 3/4 oz Can Cream of Celery soup
    3 tb Milk; as needed
    Toasted bread or muffins

    This is super easy and makes a great breakfast, light
    lunch or supper. A country-style toasted bread makes
    this dish.

    Saute bell peppers until wilted.

    Add undiluted soup, season with pepper and garlic.

    Fold tuna into soup mixture being careful not to break
    too much. Add 2 or 3 tbs milk or more to achieve creamy
    consistency.

    Heat to simmer.

    Serve over toast of your choice.

    * Note: This can also be done with leftover salmon

    From: The Dim View Column; 10 October 1969

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Aug 7 06:12:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Hardee's came to my town when they bought the Sandy's chain of fats
    food joints. They were almost as old (1956) as McD's - but, obviously,
    not as durable.

    McD's had better PR folks. (G) Seriously, it was probably the Golden Arches and the fact you could get the same cheap meal at whatever franchise you went to, whether it be in Peoria, IL or Peoria, AZ.

    Sandy's didn't have Ronald McDonald or the Hamburglar. Just a figure in
    a kilt w/bagpipes. And nothing remotely Scottish on the menu.

    I've got apps for Hardee's, Wendy's, Popeyes, Arby's, Domino's Pizza
    and Jimmy John's (subs). They are a convenience for me. Not to mention there are a lot of "app/on-line only" specials I take adbvantage.

    We've got no apps for any of the above and will keep it that way. Of
    your listing, we go to Arby's and Popeyes, but neither one one of them that often.

    As I said, they're a convenience. I can order while at work and pick-up
    on my way home ... or order from home and then do the quick trip. That
    works especially well with Popeyes on Tuesdays when the drive thru lines
    a "around the block" long due to the "Tuesday" special. I order from my confuser, drive to my nearby Popeyes and park right by the door, nip
    inside and go to the Door Dash station. I tell the clerk who I am, pick
    up my food and beat feet for the house.

    Popeyes just wound up a "Buy 6 wings ($5.99) and get another 6 for
    $1." That was supper last night for both me and Dennis - and the
    mutts loved the bones.

    We went to Alpaca's (Peruvian chicken) yesterday after church, split a half chicken and several sides. Brought some chicken home that we had
    for supper.

    Never had Peruvian chicken. What is the distinguishing characteristic
    that makes it "special"?

    Used to have McD's app but Itook it off because they got overly picky
    on usage and flooded my e-mail with (not so) "specials".

    Do the Hardee's in your area do coupons? I get a monthly mailing from
    some marketing outfit. Yesterday's haul had coupons for Popeyes,
    Subway, Burger King, Hardee's and Little Caesar's (who have improved
    their pizza greatly). Once in a while there is even a McD's sheet of coupons.

    Yes, we get the recycle bag flyer with all sorts of coupons. Haven't
    seen the Hardee's one in a while, last set was for Subway and BK.

    I give the Subway sheet to Dennis as he prefers them over Jimmy John's.
    The BK goes into the clipper pile. Every couple of months I go through
    the pile and send the expired sheets to the newspaper pile for another
    trip through the system.

    The bundle also contains window, siding and gutter hutles. As well as
    a BelTone hearing aid flyer and general beauty & bath merch coupons.

    Fodder for the recycle bag.

    True dat.

    Our recycle can is usually fuller than the regular trash can.

    Sprig-a-leak's recycle program uses blue totes and the disposal company
    that has the contract with the city runs "sorter" trucks that pick up
    the contents of those totes. And they maintain a recycling centre for
    aluminum cans, etc. where the pay $$$ for your old cans. Sadly, neither
    takes plastic grocery sacks. You have to haul those back to one of the
    grocers who do recycle them.

    Hy-Vee is the only one of my local stupormarkups that offer paper or
    plastic at their check-outs.

    8<----- SNIP----->8

    It was (at that time) basically offer of 2 entrees, about 4 sides, a couple of desserts. Lunch time always had a tossed salad available
    also. Now there's all kinds of choices, traditional, vegan and so on,
    with a proper salad bar. (We stopped there in May, on our way to Ohio
    from visiting family in the Rochester, NY area & had lunch there.)

    Was this at your college? Most campus dining halls don't do
    "walk-ins". Unless it's run as a concession by an outside party.

    It is run by an outside company with supplimental student staff. We
    were there over graduation week end/class of '74 reunion but we've
    been able to have a meal there other times.

    So, it was/is a concession. Graduation time is pretty crazy at most of
    the colleges/universities I've been around.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Food Service Chocolate Chunk Cookies
    Categories: Cookies, Snacks, Desserts, Nuts, Chocolate
    Yield: 4 Dozen

    1 c Granulated sugar
    2/3 c Packed brown sugar
    2/3 c Margarine
    2/3 c Butter
    3 lg Eggs
    2 ts Vanilla
    3 1/2 c (to 4 c) All-purpose flour
    1 1/2 ts Baking soda
    6 oz Pecan pieces
    18 oz Semi-sweet chocolate; in
    -chunks

    Recipe by: St. Louis Post-Dispatch 5/27/96

    Set oven @ 350ºF/175ºC. Beat together sugar, brown
    sugar, margarine and butter until fluffy. Slowly beat in
    eggs and vanilla. Sift together flour and baking soda and
    mix in. Mix in pecans and chocolate until just blended.

    Scoop out roughly 3 tablespoons cookie dough and form into a
    ball (or use an ice cream scooper). Drop on cookie sheet and
    press down a little. Bake for 15 to 17 minutes.

    The food service department at the University of Colorado
    at Boulder.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Aug 6 13:47:20 2024
    Hi Dave,


    I don't know if she started with raw or canned potatoes, just knew I didn't like them. Us kids used to call them "baby food" as they were
    about the conistancy of, maybe strained, baby food.

    If I ever make this I'll likely add some chile to offset the sweet.
    But it does look good for a holiday gathering.

    Title: Candied Yams w/Pecans
    Categories: Potatoes, Nuts, Herbs, Candy
    Yield: 12 servings

    You're more than welcome to my share of it. (G)

    Once upon a - the family drove to the south end of the staee to visit
    my Mom's aunts and uncles and cousins. Before we arrived she turned to
    the back seat and gtitted out "I don't care what they have for dinner
    you take some. And eat it. And not complpain."

    One of the dishes on offer was cooked turnips - which mother abhorred.
    So, throughout the meal one or the other of we three kids would ask,
    "why don't you have some more of these delicious turnips, Mom?"

    We didn't complain to my parents, just among us kids. But when we got
    older and able to dish up our own plates, only a small dab of sweet
    potatoes were on them. She also boiled turnips; I disliked them but
    not as much as I disliked sweet potatoes. I'll eat turnips now;
    somewhere in my collection of recipies is one for Pot Au Feu, or as
    Steve calls it, fancy French beef stew. It calls for turnips, not in any
    great quantity. Extra turnips usually go into a mixed veggie beef (or
    chicken) soup or stew.

    My dad just sat there with a beatific smile on his face.

    Did he like them?

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Aug 7 16:27:36 2024
    Re: Towing the Line [1]
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Aug 03 2024 11:59 am

    Hi Carol,

    Do you have space in your freezer? Cider does freeze well, just have t make sure you leave some head room. That way you can enjoy last year's batch when the trees are blooming for this year's crop. (G)

    Thats problematic. I'm shy of space in the frezer!

    And still more summer crops to harvest. (G) Guess you will have to
    either get creative in your arrainging of what goes in to free up space or bite the bullet and get a new freezer. I'm still re-arrainging my fridge freezer and the big one from the melt down of a couple of weeks ago, finding I have more room than I thought I did.

    Yup! Trying to eat up stuff from the chest freezer. Making some inroads on it but slowly. Grr.

    I know the feeling; we've been trying to "eat down the freezer" for a
    couple of years. There's a lot of meat stored in it; Steve likes to grab things on sale for future smoking. I'm slowly but surely using up the
    stock pile plus various other things we popped in there.


    Same here. We did fine when Charlotte was here but now I tend to overbuy based on current eating. Ah well.

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Dave Drum on Wed Aug 7 19:38:00 2024
    Hi Dave,
    On <Wed, 06 Aug 24>, you wrote me:

    I get them off my Kindle when I'm finished reading. I just tap
    "remove download" on the home page menu. It's still listed on the

    Okay I'll try that. I've just not been happy with the interface of the kindle, but
    I like everything else about it.

    And lots easier. My favourite breakfast 'taters are the little square cubes - sometimes called cottage fries or hash browns (not the
    shredded ones) with a garlic-butter sauce lightly applied.

    They are called "Home Fries" here. :)

    Sweet taters for us are simple. Bake them until tender. Split
    Ever do them in th \e microwave?

    Honestly no... I use the microwave very little, other then warming things
    up. Frozen meals at work that kinda stuff, the rest of the time I just prefer to use other methods of cooking.

    Shawn


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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Dave Drum on Wed Aug 7 19:46:00 2024
    Hi Dave,
    In a message to Ruth Haffly you wrote:

    would ask, "why don't you have some more of these delicious turnips, Mom?"
    My dad just sat there with a beatific smile on his face.

    LOL! SOmething like this happened when I was a child but it was the other
    way around. My father hates all pasta except for garfields favorite. He yelled
    at us the entire drive there we were to be polite and eat everything.

    Mom kept goading him about the pasta salad. Made him eat some while
    Mom and us kids laughed ourselves stupid.

    Shawn

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Dave Drum on Wed Aug 7 19:55:00 2024
    Hi Dave,
    On <Thu, 07 Aug 24>, you wrote me:

    All you are sure of it that it's old and creaky but not old enough to
    be an archeological "find". Bv)=

    Laugh, that's about right!

    I like going to the doctor - except for the problems it causes with
    my schedule.

    I liked my last doctor, but he retired (in his 80's) I saw him monthly, but
    new doctor (and I'm bloody lucky beyond works to have her) is in the
    other end of the city with expensive parking.

    of young doctors, either doing their "residency" or newly hired - of
    the cute female persuasion. I'm too old for the mating dance but my
    eyes do still work just fine. Bv)=

    I think my shoes are older then my new Doc. ;)

    Shawn


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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Aug 8 04:37:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    One of the dishes on offer was cooked turnips - which mother abhorred.
    So, throughout the meal one or the other of we three kids would ask,
    "why don't you have some more of these delicious turnips, Mom?"

    We didn't complain to my parents, just among us kids. But when we got older and able to dish up our own plates, only a small dab of sweet potatoes were on them. She also boiled turnips; I disliked them but
    not as much as I disliked sweet potatoes. I'll eat turnips now;
    somewhere in my collection of recipies is one for Pot Au Feu, or as
    Steve calls it, fancy French beef stew. It calls for turnips, not in
    any great quantity. Extra turnips usually go into a mixed veggie beef
    (or chicken) soup or stew.

    Oddly I prefer turnips raw. Just peeled and sliced with a sprinkle of
    salt. I can tolerate them cooked/boiled if there is something of a much different flavour to "chase" them with.

    My dad just sat there with a beatific smile on his face.

    Did he like them?

    He didn't say one way or the other.But I noticed he only took a courtesy helping on his own plate. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Neeps & Tatties
    Categories: Five, Vegetables
    Yield: 8 Servings

    8 lg Baking (russet) potatoes;
    - washed, unpeeled, cut in
    - 2cm X 4cm (3/4" X 1 1/2")
    - chunks
    6 tb Light olive oil or sunflower
    - oil
    675 g (1 1/2 lb) Swedish turnip;
    - peeled, sliced, rough
    - chopped
    50 g (2 tb) butter: more to serve

    The day before you want to serve, set the oven to
    200oC/390oF(convection) 220oC/425oF/gas 7(standard). Put
    the potatoes into a pan of lightly salted water, return
    to the boil and cook for 5 minutes. Drain the potatoes,
    put them back into the pan and place it back on the heat
    for a couple of minutes to dry out.

    Meanwhile, pour the oil into a large roasting tin (you
    may have to use two) and heat it in the oven until
    smoking hot. Now stir the potatoes into the hot oil and
    return to the oven to roast, turning occasionally, for 55
    minutes.

    Cook the turnip in boiling salted water for 50-55
    minutes, or until very soft. Drain and add to the roasted
    potatoes. Roughly mash everything together, keeping quite
    chunky, then cool, cover and keep in a cool place.

    To serve, set the oven to 180oC/360oF(convection)
    200oC/390oF/gas 6(conventional). Uncover the potatoes and
    turnip, dot with the butter and put in the oven to reheat
    for 25-30 minutes, stirring now and again until piping
    hot. Serve with lots of butter.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.bbcgoodfood.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Shawn Highfield on Thu Aug 8 05:59:00 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I get them off my Kindle when I'm finished reading. I just tap
    "remove download" on the home page menu. It's still listed on the

    Okay I'll try that. I've just not been happy with the interface of the kindle, but I like everything else about it.

    The interface has some weird sh..tuff. But, I suppose since I'm so used
    to it I barely notice it anymore.

    And lots easier. My favourite breakfast 'taters are the little square cubes - sometimes called cottage fries or hash browns (not the
    shredded ones) with a garlic-butter sauce lightly applied.

    They are called "Home Fries" here. :)

    Some places they're called home fries, or cottage fries, or even hash
    browns - probably because the potatoes in corned beef hash are small
    cubes.

    American fries (most places) are thin sliced and par-cooked before they
    get fried. And a couple places around here call them home fries.

    Sweet taters for us are simple. Bake them until tender. Split

    Ever do them in th \e microwave?

    Honestly no... I use the microwave very little, other then warming
    things up. Frozen meals at work that kinda stuff, the rest of the
    time I just prefer to use other methods of cooking.

    I don't cook a lot of stuff from raw in the microwave. But bacon and
    baked potatoes (white or sweet) are just easier and quicker with less
    clean-up.

    I have made this novelty cake - twice.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Chile-Chocolate Microwave Mug Cake
    Categories: Cakes, Snacks, Chocolate, Chilies
    Yield: 1 Serving

    4 tb (45 g) self raising flour
    4 tb (55 g) caster sugar
    2 tb (17 g) cocoa powder
    1 lg Egg
    3 tb (43 ml) milk
    3 tb (25 ml) sunflower oil
    3 tb Chocolate chips
    sm Dash of vanilla extract
    lg Pinch of dried chile *

    * You could use ground chile powder or replace the choc
    chips with chile chocolate. You could also use more or
    less chile depending on your tastebuds.

    Add dry ingredients (including chile) to a large coffee
    mug, and mix well. Add the egg and mix thoroughly Add
    the milk and oil - mix well (don't forget the corners /
    edges of the mug). Add the chocolate chips (if using)
    and vanilla extract, and mix again Put your mug in the
    microwave and cook for 3 minutes (in an 800 watt
    microwave).

    The cake will rise above the top of the mug, but don't
    worry it's supposed to! Allow to cool a little, tip out
    onto a plate.

    EAT and enjoy - this can serve two - it's a huge portion
    for one!

    From: http://blog.chilliupnorth.co.uk

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Aug 7 13:29:02 2024
    Hi Dave,

    McD's had better PR folks. (G) Seriously, it was probably the Golden Arches and the fact you could get the same cheap meal at whatever franchise you went to, whether it be in Peoria, IL or Peoria, AZ.

    Sandy's didn't have Ronald McDonald or the Hamburglar. Just a figure
    in a kilt w/bagpipes. And nothing remotely Scottish on the menu.

    None of the kitsch, just good, inexpensive food.


    I've got apps for Hardee's, Wendy's, Popeyes, Arby's, Domino's Pizza
    and Jimmy John's (subs). They are a convenience for me. Not to mention there are a lot of "app/on-line only" specials I take adbvantage.

    We've got no apps for any of the above and will keep it that way. Of
    your listing, we go to Arby's and Popeyes, but neither one one of them that often.

    As I said, they're a convenience. I can order while at work and
    pick-up on my way home ... or order from home and then do the quick
    trip. That
    works especially well with Popeyes on Tuesdays when the drive thru
    lines a "around the block" long due to the "Tuesday" special. I order
    from my confuser, drive to my nearby Popeyes and park right by the
    door, nip
    inside and go to the Door Dash station. I tell the clerk who I am,
    pick up my food and beat feet for the house.

    Nearest Popeyes for us is Raleigh so not convenient to do that.
    Especially since northbound late afternoon/early evening traffic is very
    slow going,chicken would be cold by the time we got home. Not worth
    going down just to eat in either, more of "if we're in the area, we'll
    stop" kind of place. Same plaza as Harbor Freight, an occaisional stop.

    Popeyes just wound up a "Buy 6 wings ($5.99) and get another 6 for
    $1." That was supper last night for both me and Dennis - and the
    mutts loved the bones.

    We went to Alpaca's (Peruvian chicken) yesterday after church, split a half chicken and several sides. Brought some chicken home that we had
    for supper.

    Never had Peruvian chicken. What is the distinguishing characteristic
    that makes it "special"?

    Charcoal grilled, not sure what spices they use but it's good.

    Yes, we get the recycle bag flyer with all sorts of coupons. Haven't
    seen the Hardee's one in a while, last set was for Subway and BK.

    I give the Subway sheet to Dennis as he prefers them over Jimmy
    John's. The BK goes into the clipper pile. Every couple of months I go through
    the pile and send the expired sheets to the newspaper pile for another trip through the system.

    The bundle also contains window, siding and gutter hutles. As well as
    a BelTone hearing aid flyer and general beauty & bath merch coupons.

    Same here, also some for several of the local Mexican restaurants.

    Fodder for the recycle bag.

    True dat.

    Our recycle can is usually fuller than the regular trash can.

    Sprig-a-leak's recycle program uses blue totes and the disposal
    company that has the contract with the city runs "sorter" trucks that aluminum cans, etc. where the pay $$$ for your old cans. Sadly,
    neither takes plastic grocery sacks. You have to haul those back to
    one of the grocers who do recycle them.

    Our trucks do a trash run, empty out and do a recycle run. We can't do
    plastic bags either, and are limited in recyclable plastics. Used to
    have a smaller recycle can but a few years ago we were allowed to get a
    larger one, use the old can for yard waste, increasing the amount we
    could dispose of there.

    Hy-Vee is the only one of my local stupormarkups that offer paper
    or DD> plastic at their check-outs.

    We have to buy paper or plastic at Aldi's or Lidl, buy paper at Wegman's
    (no plastic for sale) so we usually bring our own reuseable bags. We've
    quite a collection, including several insulated and a couple that are
    regular one side, insulated the other.

    8<----- SNIP----->8

    with a proper salad bar. (We stopped there in May, on our way to Ohio
    from visiting family in the Rochester, NY area & had lunch there.)

    Was this at your college? Most campus dining halls don't do
    "walk-ins". Unless it's run as a concession by an outside party.

    It is run by an outside company with supplimental student staff. We
    were there over graduation week end/class of '74 reunion but we've
    been able to have a meal there other times.

    So, it was/is a concession. Graduation time is pretty crazy at most of
    the colleges/universities I've been around.

    True, but this is a smaller school. Student population is @1200+/-
    bodies.


    ---
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Dave Drum on Fri Aug 9 06:42:00 2024
    Hi Dave,
    On <Fri, 08 Aug 24>, you wrote me:

    The interface has some weird sh..tuff. But, I suppose since I'm so
    used to it I barely notice it anymore.

    I've been using it for years and in the last year I think they really screwed it up IMO. Thankfully the reading side of the interface is still nice and simple and since tha'ts where I spend most of the time I can deal.

    Some places they're called home fries, or cottage fries, or even hash browns - probably because the potatoes in corned beef hash are small cubes.

    I think they stopped making the canned corned beef hash. I haven't found it
    in a loooong time. Andrea and I used to like to keep a can in the cupboard for those lazy evenings doing breakfast for supper.

    I have made this novelty cake - twice.
    Title: Chile-Chocolate Microwave Mug Cake

    I made one once. I had to throw the mug out as I could never get it clean. Promptly deleted the recipe. ;)

    Shawn


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Thu Aug 8 12:33:04 2024
    Hi Carol,

    Yup! Trying to eat up stuff from the chest freezer. Making some inroads on it but slowly. Grr.

    I know the feeling; we've been trying to "eat down the freezer" for a
    couple of years. There's a lot of meat stored in it; Steve likes to grab things on sale for future smoking. I'm slowly but surely using up the
    stock pile plus various other things we popped in there.

    Same here. We did fine when Charlotte was here but now I tend to
    overbuy based on current eating. Ah well.

    We're slowly but surely making progress. The fridge freezer has a lot of
    empty space, the upright freezer gets a little more space each week.
    We've got another bowl of figs that I think we'll dehydrate instead of freezing--don't have to use electricity to keep them dry. (G)


    ---
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    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Aug 8 12:39:30 2024
    Hi Dave,

    somewhere in my collection of recipies is one for Pot Au Feu, or as
    Steve calls it, fancy French beef stew. It calls for turnips, not in
    any great quantity. Extra turnips usually go into a mixed veggie beef
    (or chicken) soup or stew.

    Oddly I prefer turnips raw. Just peeled and sliced with a sprinkle of salt. I can tolerate them cooked/boiled if there is something of a
    much different flavour to "chase" them with.

    My dad just sat there with a beatific smile on his face.

    Did he like them?

    He didn't say one way or the other.But I noticed he only took a
    courtesy helping on his own plate. Bv)=

    Sounds suspiciously like he didn't like them either. My mom never served
    them. We always went to her parents for Thanksgiving; her mom had quite
    a spread, to include the turnips and sweet potatoes. At Christmas, her
    parents (and single sister) came to our house. Mom did turkey for quite
    a few years, then switched to goose some time when I was in high school.
    Either bird, the sides were always mashed potatoes and gravy, some
    vegetable like corn or peas, brown & serve rolls, canned (jelly)
    cranberry sauce, celery sticks and olives. Dessert was always pumpkin
    pie. I do remember one year when her family couldn't come up, she has
    shrimp cocktail as a starter but every year was basically the same menu
    as the years before.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Aug 10 05:44:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    somewhere in my collection of recipies is one for Pot Au Feu, or as
    Steve calls it, fancy French beef stew. It calls for turnips, not in
    any great quantity. Extra turnips usually go into a mixed veggie beef
    (or chicken) soup or stew.

    Oddly I prefer turnips raw. Just peeled and sliced with a sprinkle
    of salt. I can tolerate them cooked/boiled if there is something
    of a much different flavour to "chase" them with.

    My dad just sat there with a beatific smile on his face.

    Did he like them?

    He didn't say one way or the other.But I noticed he only took a
    courtesy helping on his own plate. Bv)=

    Sounds suspiciously like he didn't like them either. My mom never
    served them. We always went to her parents for Thanksgiving; her mom
    had quite a spread, to include the turnips and sweet potatoes. At Christmas, her parents (and single sister) came to our house. Mom did turkey for quite a few years, then switched to goose some time when I
    was in high school. Either bird, the sides were always mashed potatoes
    and gravy, some vegetable like corn or peas, brown & serve rolls,
    canned (jelly) cranberry sauce, celery sticks and olives. Dessert was always pumpkin pie. I do remember one year when her family couldn't
    come up, she has shrimp cocktail as a starter but every year was
    basically the same menu as the years before.

    We never had them at home. Mostly because Mom didn't like them in any
    key. And at my grandparent's only if my great-grandmother was cooking.

    The big holidays were turkey or goose, two kinds of stuffing/dressing
    (regular and oyster), glazed carrots, another vegetable, jellied
    cranberry sauce or home-done cranberry sauce w/whole cranberries (and
    watch out for the "unpopped" berries as they have tremendous pucker
    power). Also dinner rolls, salad and for desert squash or pumpkin pie,
    mince or raisin pie and/or pecan pie.

    Some years just one sort of pie. Other years as many as three different
    pie offerings. Or suet pudding w/"hard" sauce.

    If I were making this today I might use craisins on place of the more
    prosauic raisins.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Johnny Bull (Suet) Pudding
    Categories: Puddings, Beef, Fruits, Desserts, Sauces
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 c Chopped kidney suet
    3 c Flour
    2 ts Baking powder
    3 lg Eggs
    1 c Sugar
    2 c Cooked raisins
    1 ts (ea) ground ginger, cinnamon
    - allspice
    1/2 ts Ground cloves
    2 c Milk

    MMMMM------------------------LEMON SAUCE-----------------------------
    1/2 c Sugar
    1 tb Flour
    1 ts Butter
    Juice of 1 lemon
    Grated rind of half lemon
    pn Salt
    1 c Water

    MMMMM--------------------BRANDY (HARD) SAUCE-------------------------
    1 c Water
    2 tb Corn Starch
    2 tb Butter
    1/2 c Sugar
    1 ts Nutmeg
    1/4 c Brandy
    1 ts Real Vanilla

    Mix 1 cup flour and suet together with hands until all
    strings are worked out of suet. Cream sugar and eggs
    together. Sift flour, baking powder & spices together.
    Add to creamed mixture and alternate with milk and
    flour/suet. Last, add raisins and mix well. Place in a
    cloth bag and steam over hot water for 3 hours. Serve
    with sauce.

    MAKE THE LEMON SAUCE: Mix all ingredients together and
    cook a few moments. Pour over pudding.

    MAKE THE HARD SAUCE: Mix dry ingredients and then stir
    them into a cup of boiling water. Boil for 5 minutes and
    then add butter, brandy, and vanilla.

    Serve hot over mince pie, gingerbread or plum pudding.

    From: My Grandmother's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Aug 9 05:19:00 2024
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    McD's had better PR folks. (G) Seriously, it was probably the Golden Arches and the fact you could get the same cheap meal at whatever franchise you went to, whether it be in Peoria, IL or Peoria, AZ.

    Sandy's didn't have Ronald McDonald or the Hamburglar. Just a figure
    in a kilt w/bagpipes. And nothing remotely Scottish on the menu.

    None of the kitsch, just good, inexpensive food.

    Sandy's had much better (and bigger) burgers - including the Hi-Lo a
    double cheeseburger "with the cheese in the middle and a pickle n top".
    But, McRonnies had the best fries. Up until they quit using beef tallow
    for their deep fryers.

    I've got apps for Hardee's, Wendy's, Popeyes, Arby's, Domino's Pizza
    and Jimmy John's (subs). They are a convenience for me. Not to mention there are a lot of "app/on-line only" specials I take adbvantage.

    We've got no apps for any of the above and will keep it that way. Of
    your listing, we go to Arby's and Popeyes, but neither one one of them that often.

    As I said, they're a convenience. I can order while at work and
    pick-up on my way home ... or order from home and then do the quick
    trip. That works especially well with Popeyes on Tuesdays when the
    drive thru lines a "around the block" long due to the "Tuesday"
    special. I order from my confuser, drive to my nearby Popeyes and
    park right by the door, nip inside and go to the Door Dash station.
    I tell the clerk who I am, pick up my food and beat feet for the
    house.

    Nearest Popeyes for us is Raleigh so not convenient to do that.
    Especially since northbound late afternoon/early evening traffic is
    very slow going,chicken would be cold by the time we got home. Not
    worth going down just to eat in either, more of "if we're in the area, we'll stop" kind of place. Same plaza as Harbor Freight, an occaisional stop.

    I have found that their chicken nukes back to life very well. And it's
    still tasty even when cold. I but four of the "Tuesdays" and do the
    drumsticks when I get home. Then I stash the thighs for two more suppers
    later in the week. Nuke two thighs, add a veggie and some form of salad
    and dine fine.

    Popeyes just wound up a "Buy 6 wings ($5.99) and get another 6 for
    $1." That was supper last night for both me and Dennis - and the
    mutts loved the bones.

    We went to Alpaca's (Peruvian chicken) yesterday after church, split a half chicken and several sides. Brought some chicken home that we had
    for supper.

    Never had Peruvian chicken. What is the distinguishing characteristic
    that makes it "special"?

    Charcoal grilled, not sure what spices they use but it's good.

    Yes, we get the recycle bag flyer with all sorts of coupons. Haven't
    seen the Hardee's one in a while, last set was for Subway and BK.

    I give the Subway sheet to Dennis as he prefers them over Jimmy
    John's. The BK goes into the clipper pile. Every couple of months
    I go through the pile and send the expired sheets to the newspaper
    pile for another trip through the system.

    The bundle also contains window, siding and gutter hutles. As well as
    a BelTone hearing aid flyer and general beauty & bath merch coupons.

    Same here, also some for several of the local Mexican restaurants.

    That would be nice for here. We have a large number of "authentic" and
    regional places. And I see that Taqueria al Piasa has just added a food
    truck.

    Our recycle can is usually fuller than the regular trash can.

    Sprig-a-leak's recycle program uses blue totes and the disposal
    company that has the contract with the city runs "sorter" trucks that aluminum cans, etc. where the pay $$$ for your old cans. Sadly,
    neither takes plastic grocery sacks. You have to haul those back to
    one of the grocers who do recycle them.

    Our trucks do a trash run, empty out and do a recycle run. We can't do plastic bags either, and are limited in recyclable plastics. Used to
    have a smaller recycle can but a few years ago we were allowed to get a larger one, use the old can for yard waste, increasing the amount we
    could dispose of there.

    We buy yard waste bags (75c ea) with the revenue going to the city's
    yard waste program. A city truck picks them up from curbside and then
    off to this big compost facility between town and the airport. They
    also pick up fallen branches, etc. from trees - if they're placed at
    the curb. The local papers print the scheduled pickup days and loctionss.

    Hy-Vee is the only one of my local stupormarkups that offer paper
    or plastic at their check-outs.

    We have to buy paper or plastic at Aldi's or Lidl, buy paper at
    Wegman's (no plastic for sale) so we usually bring our own reuseable
    bags. We've quite a collection, including several insulated and a
    couple that are regular one side, insulated the other.

    Sounds like my place. I was a bit dismayed during the Covid pandemic
    that the reusable totes were not allowed. At ALDI I can usually find an
    empty box or two and not have to buy carriers from them. Same with Ruler
    (a Kroger "no frills" brand). Sav-A-Lot has begun offering free logo-ed
    plastic bags at their bag-it-yourself table.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Citrus Garlic Shrimp Skewers
    Categories: Seafod, Citrus, Vegetables, Herbs, Fruits
    Yield: 10 Servings

    MMMMM--------------------------SKEWERS-------------------------------
    3 Limes; zested, juiced
    1 Orange; zested, juiced
    5 cl Garlic; minced
    1 ts Salt
    1 1/4 ts Ground black pepper
    1/4 c Chopped cilantro
    24 oz Jumbo (U12) shrimp; peeled,
    - deveined

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    1 lg Avocado; pitted, peeled
    2 tb Lime juice
    1 tb Orange juice
    1/4 ts Salt
    1/4 c Chopped cilantro
    1 cl Garlic
    2 tb Oil
    Cooking spray

    FOR THE SKEWERS: Combine all ingredients in a resealable
    bag and let marinate for 30 minutes.

    FOR THE DIP: Combine all ingredients in a food processor
    and pulse until smooth. Transfer to a small bowl and
    reserve.

    Pierce 4-5 shrimp on each skewer.

    Heat cast iron griddle over medium-high heat. Coat with
    cooking spray.

    Cook the skewers for 2-3 minutes on each side or until
    done.

    TIP: These can easily be turned into a quick taco
    dinner. Skip the skewers and cook as instructed. Add the
    shrimp to a warm corn tortilla and dress up some cabbage
    with the dip for a slaw.

    Recipe Courtesy of Chef Leigh An, ALDI Test Kitchen

    RECIPE FROM: https://new.aldi.us

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Mike Powell on Sun Aug 11 05:39:00 2024
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    Sweet potatoes, I find, are not as sweet (without addtions in cooking)
    as carrots. Carrots have a *lot* of sugar. Bv)=

    Back 20 years ago or so, a co-worker was trying to get me involved in
    the juicing craze. He may have been selling juicers as part of some scheme, I don't recall. I did watch a video or two about it and the pitchman mentioned using either carrots or apples in your juice recipes
    in order to add sweetness.

    I was introduced to that little factoid in a similar fashion. A guy I
    knew was in a multi-level-marketing scheme for some brand of waterless
    cookware and he was both trying to hustle me to buy a set of his pots
    and pans and to sign me up as an underling. I passed on both of those "opportunities". But I did learn a few things from the demo he did. Bv)=

    MMMMM---- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Sweet & Sour Glazed Carrots
    Categories: Vegetables, Fruits
    Yield: 6 servings

    1 lb Fresh babycut carrots
    1/4 c Sugar
    2 tb White vinegar
    1/4 c Butter
    2 tb Water
    1 ts Cornstarch
    1/4 c Crisins (dried cranberries)

    In a medium saucepan over high heat, place carrots in
    enough water to cover. Bring to a boil and cook 8 to 10
    minutes, or until fork tender; drain and set aside.

    In the same saucepan over medium heat, bring sugar,
    vinegar, and butter to a boil.

    In a small bowl, combine water and cornstarch, stirring
    until cornstarch is dissolved. Add cornstarch mixture to
    vinegar mixture, stirring until thickened. Add carrots
    and cranberries to mixture and heat 5 minutes, or until
    heated through.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.mrfood.com

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DAVE DRUM on Sun Aug 11 07:53:00 2024
    I was introduced to that little factoid in a similar fashion. A guy I
    knew was in a multi-level-marketing scheme for some brand of waterless cookware and he was both trying to hustle me to buy a set of his pots
    and pans and to sign me up as an underling. I passed on both of those "opportunities". But I did learn a few things from the demo he did. Bv)=

    "Waterless" cookware? How do you keep it clean. ;)

    Mike


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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Aug 10 12:32:57 2024
    Re: Towing the Line [1]
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Thu Aug 08 2024 12:33 pm

    Hi Carol,

    Yup! Trying to eat up stuff from the chest freezer. Making some inroads on it but slowly. Grr.

    I know the feeling; we've been trying to "eat down the freezer" for a couple of years. There's a lot of meat stored in it; Steve likes to grab things on sale for future smoking. I'm slowly but surely using up the stock pile plus various other things we popped in there.

    Same here. We did fine when Charlotte was here but now I tend to overbuy based on current eating. Ah well.

    We're slowly but surely making progress. The fridge freezer has a lot of empty space, the upright freezer gets a little more space each week.
    We've got another bowl of figs that I think we'll dehydrate instead of freezing--don't have to use electricity to keep them dry. (G)


    Same here, We use the air fryer a lot so I stock things for it now. It's nice how easy is to do dry rub spicing on chicken thighs and such. We ebb and flow weekly but starting to see progress.

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Mike Powell on Mon Aug 12 05:43:00 2024
    Mike Powell wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    I was introduced to that little factoid in a similar fashion. A guy I
    knew was in a multi-level-marketing scheme for some brand of waterless cookware and he was both trying to hustle me to buy a set of his pots
    and pans and to sign me up as an underling. I passed on both of those "opportunities". But I did learn a few things from the demo he did. Bv)=

    "Waterless" cookware? How do you keep it clean. ;)

    Magick. Or let the dogs wash it. Waterless refers to cooking. I asked
    they guy doing the presentation "How do you steam something, then?"

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    Title: Cider-Steamed Mussels w/Applejack Cream
    Categories: Seafood, Vegetables, Fruits, Dairy, Booze
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lg Onion; sliced thin
    1 c Apple cider
    32 Mussels; cleaned
    1/4 c Laird's Applejack
    2 c Heavy cream
    White pepper & salt
    1/4 c Minced fresh parsley leaves

    Perfect for fall, when apples and mussels are in
    abundance.

    In a large skillet with a tight-fitting lid, combine the
    onion, cider, and 1/2 cup water; bring to a boil over high
    heat. Add the mussels and cook them, covered, for 3-5
    minutes, or until they are opened. Transfer the mussels
    with a slotted spoon to a hated serving dish, discarding
    any unopened ones. Cover them with a hot, damp dishcloth
    to keep them from drying out.

    Add the AppleJack to the skillet and reduce the liquid to
    about 1/2 cup. Add the cream, a little at a time, bringing
    the liquid to a boil after each addition, and reduce this
    liquid until it measures about 3/4 cup. Add the white
    pepper and salt it to taste. Strain the sauce through a
    fine sieve over the mussels, and sprinkle the mixture with
    minced parsley.

    Yield: 4 servings

    Source: The Winnetka Grill, Winnetka, Illinois

    From: http://www.lairdandcompany.com

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