• Getting Tired

    From Dave Drum@1:396/45 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jun 24 05:59:44 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    No way I'm gonna drive an hour and a half for *anyone's* food - not
    just fats food. If I'm already in the area for some legitimate reason
    - that's a different story.

    Agreed. There's a Tanger Outlet mall in the same area; we've stopped a
    few times but it's not a regular destination for us.

    Which sent me to the Bing search engine. Now I'm confused on a higher
    plane as to whether "Tanger" is folggin its own merch or is a developer offering strip mall space for others to peddle their trash.

    Saw ortho dr yesterday as follow up from fall on trip. New x-rays
    showed no bone fractures (Utah ER thought possible hairline fracture of

    One thing I have learned as I get older. We don't heal up as quickly
    as we used to did when we wore a younger person's clothes.

    That's for sure! Most of the bruises and scrapes are well on their way
    to healing; the elbow and knee are going to take longer. I'm going to
    try to sit down at the sewing machine next week to finish a job started
    in April, just down to buttons and button holes. I've been doing small amounts of hand wash dishes and laundry but leaving the major dish
    doing and meal prep for Steve. Latter has been a lot of eating out of
    our freezer.

    Got to rotate your stock brfore it's been in there so long you are
    asking "What did this used to be?" Bv)=

    I'm pretty good about labelling and keeping an inventory for the big freezer, have had a few "what's this?" moments with things in the
    fridge freezer.

    I'm pretty good about that. But once in a while I hit a mystery placket.
    If I thaw it out and it's nothing I want to deal with at the time then
    Jasper, Eva and/or Isoble get at "treat"

    I'm gonna be busy from Monday with all manner of medical stuff. Monday
    is the start for the radiatio0n trreatments for the lung cancer. Then
    off to my primary doctor in the afternoon. Got to call Monday to reschedule an appointment with rheumatology that conflicts with my
    final radiation deal.

    The oncologist assures me that I will not glow in the dark. DRAT!

    No, you won't but one side effect is fatigue--and not just ordinary tiredness. For me it hit several weeks into treatment--and it was so overwhelming that I would have to immediately stop what I was doing (making sure stove was turned off, etc) and go lie down for a while.
    That persisted for a time after finishing radiation, still get it every
    so often. I had pre made a couple of weeks worth of meals before
    starting treatment and put them in the freezer--a big help.

    My priary care doctor (yesterday afternoon) told me about the fatigue but
    not when it hits. I feel fine currently. Got any advice on when to expect
    the "side effect"?

    When I make this I generally freeze half (or more) for future DD>
    reference. And I'll be pulling my last batch out the freezer for DD>
    tonight's meal. DD> Sided with creamy cole slaw and Tatger Tots.


    Title: Pulled Brisket Sandwiches
    Categories: Beef, Herbs, Sauces, Breads, Chilies
    Yield: 12 servings

    Might want to check out your supply of meals in the freezer for days
    you don't feel like cooking.

    Been there, done that. And my S-I-L seems to have made me a "project",
    Last night she sent my brother over with a casserole dish filoled with
    penne and meatballs in a marinara and 4 slices of home-baked garlic bread.

    I downed a fourth of it and the rest went into the fridge. I won't need
    to get into the Healthy Choice frozen entrees for a while.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: N.Y.T.'s Sourdough Starter
    Categories: Five, Breads, Fruits
    Yield: 2 servings

    16 oz Flour
    3 oz Pineapple juice
    10 oz Filtered or spring water

    MAKE SEED CULTURE: Combine 1 ounce of the flour and 2
    ounces pineapple juice in a large glass or small
    nonreactive bowl. Cover tightly with plastic wrap and
    leave at room temperature, stirring with a wet spoon
    twice a day. Bubbles should appear after 24 to 36 hours.
    After 48 hours, add 1 ounce flour and remaining
    pineapple juice, stirring to incorporate. Re-cover with
    plastic wrap and leave at room temperature, stirring
    with a wet spoon twice a day. When it is foamy, in 1 to
    4 days, combine 2 ounces flour and 1 ounce filtered or
    spring water in a medium nonreactive bowl. Add seed
    culture, stirring to incorporate, and re-cover with
    plastic wrap. Stir twice a day to aerate.

    When mixture has doubled in bulk, in 1 to 2 days,
    convert it into a starter: Combine 12 ounces flour and 9
    ounces filtered or spring water in bowl. Add 4 ounces of
    seed culture mixture (discard the rest, or use to make a
    second starter) and mix until fully incorporated.
    Transfer to a lightly floured surface and knead for 2
    minutes. It should have the consistency of bread dough.
    Transfer to a nonreactive bowl and let rest at room
    temperature until it doubles in size, about 4 to 8
    hours. Knead lightly, then store in container with
    tight-fitting lid (container must be large enough to let
    starter triple in bulk).

    Store in refrigerator.

    TIP: Every 5 to 10 days the starter will need to be fed
    with more flour and water. Follow the directions in step
    2 above, substituting starter for seed culture.

    By Oliver Strand

    Yield: 2 pizza recipes and leftover starter

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jun 25 12:35:05 2025
    Hi Dave,

    Agreed. There's a Tanger Outlet mall in the same area; we've stopped a
    few times but it's not a regular destination for us.

    Which sent me to the Bing search engine. Now I'm confused on a higher plane as to whether "Tanger" is folggin its own merch or is a
    developer offering strip mall space for others to peddle their trash.

    Appears to be the latter. Some of our favorite stores ( a kitchen wares
    one, Corning ware, Wilson leather goods) have folded over the years with
    no replacements so we've not been to the outlet is a few years.

    in April, just down to buttons and button holes. I've been doing small amounts of hand wash dishes and laundry but leaving the major dish
    doing and meal prep for Steve. Latter has been a lot of eating out of
    our freezer.

    Got to rotate your stock brfore it's been in there so long you are
    asking "What did this used to be?" Bv)=

    I'm pretty good about labelling and keeping an inventory for the big freezer, have had a few "what's this?" moments with things in the
    fridge freezer.

    I'm pretty good about that. But once in a while I hit a mystery
    placket. If I thaw it out and it's nothing I want to deal with at the
    time then
    Jasper, Eva and/or Isoble get at "treat"

    How long are you boarding the dogs? Seems like it has been a few years
    since you started mentioning them.


    I'm gonna be busy from Monday with all manner of medical stuff. Monday
    is the start for the radiatio0n trreatments for the lung cancer. Then
    off to my primary doctor in the afternoon. Got to call Monday to reschedule an appointment with rheumatology that conflicts with my
    final radiation deal.

    The oncologist assures me that I will not glow in the dark. DRAT!

    No, you won't but one side effect is fatigue--and not just ordinary tiredness. For me it hit several weeks into treatment--and it was so overwhelming that I would have to immediately stop what I was doing (making sure stove was turned off, etc) and go lie down for a while.
    That persisted for a time after finishing radiation, still get it every
    so often. I had pre made a couple of weeks worth of meals before
    starting treatment and put them in the freezer--a big help.

    My priary care doctor (yesterday afternoon) told me about the fatigue
    but not when it hits. I feel fine currently. Got any advice on when to expect the "side effect"?

    IIRC, it started about halfway thru (I had about 35 treatments--Monday
    thru Friday with week ends off to recover) but didn't really hit hard
    until near the end. Your milage may vary. They may tatoo some
    registration marks (small dots) on you to help them line the machine up
    better. They're barely noticeable tho.

    BTW, got the stitches out yesterday but can't get the area wet for a
    couple more days. Dr is very happy with how the elbow area looks.
    Looking back, I'm half surprised I didn't cut a ligament or tendon when
    I fell--but I'm glad I didn't.


    Might want to check out your supply of meals in the freezer for days
    you don't feel like cooking.

    Been there, done that. And my S-I-L seems to have made me a "project", Last night she sent my brother over with a casserole dish filoled with penne and meatballs in a marinara and 4 slices of home-baked garlic
    bread.

    I downed a fourth of it and the rest went into the fridge. I won't
    need to get into the Healthy Choice frozen entrees for a while.

    Nice to have family close by to take care of you. We were in Savannah,
    nearest family (in laws) were in Florida but not able to do any sort of
    care. Church and work (Army) families were a help tho, Army was very co-operative about Steve taking time to take care of me. We timed my
    radiation treatments to fit in the time frame he had free after PT but
    before the work day started. He'd come home from PT, get cleaned up and
    have breakfast, then take me for treatments, take me home and be at his
    job at the time he was supposed to start.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jun 27 12:07:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I'm pretty good about labelling and keeping an inventory for the big freezer, have had a few "what's this?" moments with things in the
    fridge freezer.

    I'm pretty good about that. But once in a while I hit a mystery
    placket. If I thaw it out and it's nothing I want to deal with at
    the time then Jasper, Eva and/or Isoble get at "treat"

    How long are you boarding the dogs? Seems like it has been a few
    years since you started mentioning them.

    We hasd their "Daddy" for a while, after his divorce he slept on the
    couch or recliner. Currently he is re-married, working two jobs (one
    part time) and his wife is working as well. They are trying to get a
    permanent place soon and get out of the residential motel they're in
    now. And then they can have the mutts. I'll miss Jasper, though.

    I'm gonna be busy from Monday with all manner of medical stuff. Monday
    is the start for the radiatio0n trreatments for the lung cancer. Then
    off to my primary doctor in the afternoon. Got to call Monday to reschedule an appointment with rheumatology that conflicts with my
    final radiation deal.

    The oncologist assures me that I will not glow in the dark. DRAT!

    No, you won't but one side effect is fatigue--and not just ordinary tiredness. For me it hit several weeks into treatment--and it was so overwhelming that I would have to immediately stop what I was doing (making sure stove was turned off, etc) and go lie down for a while.
    That persisted for a time after finishing radiation, still get it every
    so often. I had pre made a couple of weeks worth of meals before
    starting treatment and put them in the freezer--a big help.

    My primary care doctor (yesterday afternoon) told me about the fatigue
    but not when it hits. I feel fine currently. Got any advice on when to expect the "side effect"?

    IIRC, it started about halfway thru (I had about 35 treatments--Monday thru Friday with week ends off to recover) but didn't really hit hard until near the end. Your milage may vary. They may tatoo some
    registration marks (small dots) on you to help them line the machine up better. They're barely noticeable tho.

    Today's session is the half-way point. For registration marks I have some large(ish) "X" marks with waterproof tape over the junction so it doesn't
    wash away in the shower.

    BTW, got the stitches out yesterday but can't get the area wet for a couple more days. Dr is very happy with how the elbow area looks.
    Looking back, I'm half surprised I didn't cut a ligament or tendon when
    I fell--but I'm glad I didn't.

    Ya think??? Always a feeling of relief when we dodge the bullet.

    Might want to check out your supply of meals in the freezer for days
    you don't feel like cooking.

    Been there, done that. And my S-I-L seems to have made me a "project", Last night she sent my brother over with a casserole dish filoled with penne and meatballs in a marinara and 4 slices of home-baked garlic
    bread.

    I downed a fourth of it and the rest went into the fridge. I won't
    need to get into the Healthy Choice frozen entrees for a while.

    Nice to have family close by to take care of you. We were in Savannah, nearest family (in laws) were in Florida but not able to do any sort of care. Church and work (Army) families were a help tho, Army was very co-operative about Steve taking time to take care of me. We timed my radiation treatments to fit in the time frame he had free after PT but before the work day started. He'd come home from PT, get cleaned up and have breakfast, then take me for treatments, take me home and be at his job at the time he was supposed to start.

    Fortunately my brother is retired from his 9 to 5. He's certainly running
    the wheels off his ride providing Uber for Ms. Vicky (wife), Robin (wife's daughter), Tiffany (daughter) and me.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Tiajuana Taxi Torte
    Categories: Beef, Breads, Vegetables, Dairy
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 lb Ground beef
    2 1/2 oz Pkg taco seasoning mix
    29 oz (2 cans) Mexican-style
    - tomatoes w/chilies
    12 (6"-8") corn tortillas

    MMMMM--------------------------TOPPINGS-------------------------------
    Dairy sour cream or crema
    Salsa
    Guacamole
    Cheddar cheese; grated

    Brown beef and drain. Add taco seasoning and tomatoes and
    simmer for 15 minutes. In a 9"x13" pan, put 4 tablespoons
    meat mixture; lay 2 corn tortillas side by side; top with
    some of meat mixture; top with cheddar cheese. Repeat
    process until mixture is used up, ending with cheese.

    Bake in 350øF/175øC oven for 30 minutes.

    Garnish with sour cream, salsa and guacamole.

    From: http://www.cooks.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jul 2 06:35:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Sounds like all dogs that I'd get along well with. I've heard of blue
    tick hounds but not beagles, must be a cross breed got them started.
    Best thing to do with a shy animal is to let them come to you and let
    them discover how harmless some people can be. Our Jenny-cat had been abused as a kitten; we got her as a full grown cat. She was still quite timid most of the time but did somewhat come out of her shell if she
    knew her environment was safe.

    When the chirrun get a new forever home for their fur kids I'm going
    to hit an ASPCA adoption event and let a kitten adopt me. I'm nore of
    a cat person than a dog person anyway.

    I'd rather have a cat but........

    I avoided getting a kitten when I moved in here since I had bought a
    leather couch and easy chair at yhe Re-Store - and we all know that kitty
    claws are sharp. Bv)= Even if you provide a scratching post Catbert is
    going to knead the claws where Catbert wants - not where you want.

    Today's session is the half-way point. For registration marks I have
    some large(ish) "X" marks with waterproof tape over the junction so it doesn't wash away in the shower.

    You are getting off easy but still be aware of the side effects.

    Today and Wednesday are the final sessions. Still no extra tiredness. We'll see what happens after next Wednesday.

    It may take some time or you may escape it entirely. Just make sure
    that if it hits while you're cooking, to turn off the stove, put knives
    in a secure spot and any open food gets stowed before going to lie
    down.

    Good advice for if, as and when.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    Very much so! Attendant at the rest area was a young man, probably a summer hire, who did fill out an incident report but otherwise didn't
    do much of anything. Steve pulled out the first aid kit from the truck
    to put temporary patches on until we got to the ER.

    We have several "Urgent Care" centers (walk-in clinics) spotted around town
    for stuff like that. It frees up the ER for trauma and other severe cases.

    co-operative about Steve taking time to take care of me. We timed my radiation treatments to fit in the time frame he had free after PT but before the work day started. He'd come home from PT, get cleaned up and have breakfast, then take me for treatments, take me home and be at his job at the time he was supposed to start.

    Steve was probablu up in pay-grade by then. If he's been E-2 or E-3 it would probably have been a different story.

    Depends on the unit, some are better than others. Steve was a Master Sergeant (E-8) by then. He always took me to my treatments in uniform
    so one time one lady who was there with her husband made the offer that
    if we didn't want to drive up from Fort Stewart (Hinesville, about an
    hour away) every day, I could stay with them. We politely thanked her
    and told her that we live in Savannah. Never got her name but it was
    nice of her to make the offer to us.

    There are good people everywhere. Sadlt they are outnumbered by the d***
    weeds who put self before all else.

    Fortunately my brother is retired from his 9 to 5. He's certainly
    running the wheels off his ride providing Uber for Ms. Vicky
    (wife), DD> Robin (wife's daughter), Tiffany (daughter) and me.

    No cost Uber for family. (G) We've used Uber, IIRC, only once. Wake
    Forest has started a free ride service using mini vans, set up as an on line contact only. We've not yet tried it but I have the app on my
    phone for whenever I might need it.

    My local Senior Center offers such a service. I had thought about
    applying to be a driver for them. Their range of wheels runs from
    "socer mom" vans to mini-buses on full-sizes cargo van chassis. They
    off door-to-door as well as location to location rides but with no
    fixed routs.

    Same with this group. The town has a limited bus service but it doesn't
    go to most grocery stores and no doctor's offices. The new service will take you anywhere in the WF area but I presume just drop you off and
    you will have to call for a new ride home. Don't know, we've not tried
    it, but I don't want to be caught at the grocey store with a sack full
    of perishables and have to wait for a ride. The bus loops on the hour
    so if you just miss it, you're waiting almost 2 hours for the next one. Not good for groceries!

    My Hy-Vee (currently USA Today's #1 Grocer) offers both pick-up and deliverry if I buy U$25 or more worth of grub. Which, given today's prices is not at
    all hard to do. That's how I get pantry items and frozen stuff. Fresh meat
    and produce - I still buy in person. But the delivery (even tipping the driver) or pick-up saves a lot of time and, especially, effort.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Hy-Vee Stuffed Bell Peppers
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Grains, Rice, Cheese
    Yield: 6 Servings

    6 md Red bell peppers
    1 lb 90% lean ground beef
    1/2 lg White onion; diced
    2 cl Garlic; minced
    1/2 c Diced green bell pepper
    1/2 c Shredded carrots
    1/4 c Dry quick barley
    1/2 c Dry instant brown rice
    1 c Broth
    1 c Shredded mozzarella; divided

    Set oven to 250oF/120oC.

    Cut tops off peppers; * remove seeds and membranes. Place
    peppers in a large pot; cover with salted water. Bring to
    a boil; reduce heat, cover and simmer for 5 minutes. Drain
    peppers and set aside.

    In a large skillet, brown beef with diced onion and garlic.

    Stir in bell pepper, carrots, barley, rice and broth.
    Simmer, covered, for 10 to 15 minutes.

    Stir in 1/2 cup cheese.

    Fill each bell pepper with beef mixture. Top each with
    remaining cheese and bake for 25 minutes.

    * Dice the tops you cut off and mix them in with the
    green bell pepper. - UDD

    From: http://www.hy-vee.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jul 4 10:50:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Today and Wednesday are the final sessions. Still no extra tiredness. We'll see what happens after next Wednesday.

    It may take some time or you may escape it entirely. Just make sure
    that if it hits while you're cooking, to turn off the stove, put knives
    in a secure spot and any open food gets stowed before going to lie
    down.

    Yesterday - the day after the final (I hope) session I experienced
    fatigue. But, by early evening I was as close to normal as I ever get.

    Good advice for if, as and when.

    I just don't want to read somewhere that you got done in by something
    that was easily remidiable by a bit of advance thinking. Knives make
    prep work easy but if you're slicing something up when tired, it's too easy to slice fresh meat at the same time.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    road. We'd gone over the mountain, nearest town was 40 minutes in back
    of us. Since we weren't sure of what damage I'd done and if the metal plate/screws in the elbow had been damaged, we went back to the ER
    there. Set us back several hours but it was worth getting checked out
    at an ER vs an Urgent Care. I'd missed lunch and got out of the ER near supper time so we stopped at a DQ for cones before going back over the mountain for the 3rd time that day. Spent the night boondocking at a remote trailhead in SE Utah.

    Better to invest a few hours than to pay will *all* of your remaiing hours
    by not getting treated/checked out. They finally convinced me that I am not bulletproof - so whenever I have a faux pas (French for tripping over my
    own big feet) I go get anything more than a Band Aid "owie" checked out.

    8<----- CUT ----->8

    they are outnumbered by the
    d*** weeds who put self before all else.

    It is sad, but we try to help where/whenever we can. Often we're one
    of, or the last people to leave somewhere because we're helping to get
    the place ready for the next use.

    you will have to call for a new ride home. Don't know, we've not tried
    it, but I don't want to be caught at the grocey store with a sack full
    of perishables and have to wait for a ride. The bus loops on the hour
    so if you just miss it, you're waiting almost 2 hours for the next one. Not good for groceries!

    My Hy-Vee (currently USA Today's #1 Grocer) offers both pick-up and deliverry if I buy U$25 or more worth of grub. Which, given today's
    prices is not at all hard to do. That's how I get pantry items and
    frozen stuff. Fresh meat and produce - I still buy in person. But the delivery (even tipping the driver) or pick-up saves a lot of time and, especially, effort.

    I'm still enjoying shopping in person but may try a pick up/delivery service at some point. Most of our groceries we get at Wegman's but go
    to super big box stores for paper goods, vitamins, etc. Eventually
    we'll probably condense everything down to one store but we're not
    ready to yet.

    I'd bet that Wegman's has a pick-up/delivery service similar to Hy-Vee's.
    I note that all but the "discount" grocers like Ruler Foods and Sav-A-Lot
    have begun offering the pick-up and/or delivery.

    And, as convenient as that is I still go, live and in-person to hand pick
    my fresh produce and/or meats.

    This will be tonight's supper using one of the U$3 rotisserie chickens
    I picked up last evening at th GFS store.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Crack Chicken Grilled Sandwich
    Categories: Poultry, Cheese, Breads, Pork
    Yield: 1 Serving

    1/4 c Smoky jalapeno spreadable
    - soft cheese
    2 sl White bread; divided
    1/4 ts Ranch dressing mix
    3 tb Shredded, picked rotisserie
    - chicken
    3 tb Shredded Cheddar cheese
    2 tb Crumbled real bacon pieces
    1/2 tb Butter; melted

    Heat up a sandwich maker according to manufacturer's
    directions. (I used my George Foreman)

    Spread jalapeno soft cheese on 1 slice of bread to
    within 1/2". of edges. Top with chicken, Cheddar cheese,
    bacon pieces and remaining slice of bread.

    Lightly brush plates on sandwich maker for 1 sandwich
    with melted butter using a silicone brush. Carefully
    place the sandwich in the preheated sandwich maker.
    Firmly close the lid and lock. Cook for 1 to 2 minutes
    or until toasted. Cook for 15 to 30 seconds more for a
    toastier sandwich.

    Remove sandwich with a silicone spatula. Cool slightly
    before serving.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.hy-vee.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jul 9 15:52:27 2025
    Hi Dave,

    It may take some time or you may escape it entirely. Just make sure
    that if it hits while you're cooking, to turn off the stove, put knives
    in a secure spot and any open food gets stowed before going to lie
    down.

    Yesterday - the day after the final (I hope) session I experienced fatigue. But, by early evening I was as close to normal as I ever get.

    Good, maybe you will escape the heavier side effects. I had a much
    longer regime so had more of the side effects. Right now the major
    fatigue is jet lag from the quick trip to Hawaii.


    Good advice for if, as and when.

    I just don't want to read somewhere that you got done in by something
    that was easily remidiable by a bit of advance thinking. Knives make
    prep work easy but if you're slicing something up when tired, it's too easy to slice fresh meat at the same time.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    road. We'd gone over the mountain, nearest town was 40 minutes in back
    of us. Since we weren't sure of what damage I'd done and if the metal plate/screws in the elbow had been damaged, we went back to the ER
    there. Set us back several hours but it was worth getting checked out
    at an ER vs an Urgent Care. I'd missed lunch and got out of the ER near supper time so we stopped at a DQ for cones before going back over the mountain for the 3rd time that day. Spent the night boondocking at a remote trailhead in SE Utah.

    Better to invest a few hours than to pay will *all* of your remaiing
    hours by not getting treated/checked out. They finally convinced me
    that I am not bulletproof - so whenever I have a faux pas (French for tripping over my own big feet) I go get anything more than a Band Aid "owie" checked out.

    Steve saw the cut when he cleaned me off and saw that it was one that
    needed professional expertise to close it. I've seen the scar (in a
    mirror) and know it was for the better. The arm is still a bit weak as I
    found when trying to carry my purse and Steve's laptop bag on it while deplaning (right hand was dragging a roller bag) a couple of times. We
    had two flights out, two back, changing planes on the way out in LVNV
    and inbound in Phoenix, both familiar to us airports.


    My Hy-Vee (currently USA Today's #1 Grocer) offers both pick-up and deliverry if I buy U$25 or more worth of grub. Which, given today's
    prices is not at all hard to do. That's how I get pantry items and
    frozen stuff. Fresh meat and produce - I still buy in person. But the delivery (even tipping the driver) or pick-up saves a lot of time and, especially, effort.

    I'm still enjoying shopping in person but may try a pick up/delivery service at some point. Most of our groceries we get at Wegman's but go
    to super big box stores for paper goods, vitamins, etc. Eventually
    we'll probably condense everything down to one store but we're not
    ready to yet.

    I'd bet that Wegman's has a pick-up/delivery service similar to
    Hy-Vee's. I note that all but the "discount" grocers like Ruler Foods
    and Sav-A-Lot have begun offering the pick-up and/or delivery.

    I'm not 100% sure as we've not had the need to check it out. The store
    was being built in 2020-21 (the height of covid) so we were shopping
    elsewhere.


    And, as convenient as that is I still go, live and in-person to hand
    pick my fresh produce and/or meats.

    That's how we feel. We came home with some Hawaiian treads (macadamia nuts--dark and milk chocolate covered, garlic/onion and Maui onion
    flavored), some shrimp seasoning and multi purpose seasoning. All old
    favorites from when we lived there. Also given some macadamia
    nut/caramel and macadamia nut (other, don't recall off the top of my
    head) bars


    This will be tonight's supper using one of the U$3 rotisserie chickens
    I picked up last evening at th GFS store.


    Title: Crack Chicken Grilled Sandwich
    Categories: Poultry, Cheese, Breads, Pork
    Yield: 1 Serving

    Sounds good. We stopped for supper at a chain seafood place in Raleigh
    (first choice, non chain, was closed) last night; I brought about half
    of my mustard potato salad and 4 (of 8) broiled shrimp home. Potato
    salad was the best part of the meal as the shrimp were overdone and the
    cole slaw was a finely chopped cabbage and who knows what tasteless mix.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jul 11 06:51:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Yesterday - the day after the final (I hope) session I experienced fatigue. But, by early evening I was as close to normal as I ever get.

    Good, maybe you will escape the heavier side effects. I had a much
    longer regime so had more of the side effects. Right now the major
    fatigue is jet lag from the quick trip to Hawaii.

    Other than that one instance - which may - or mat not 0 have been a side
    effect I've escaped pretty cleanly. We'll see what the scanner says when
    they check their work.

    Good advice for if, as and when.

    I just don't want to read somewhere that you got done in by something
    that was easily remidiable by a bit of advance thinking. Knives make
    prep work easy but if you're slicing something up when tired, it's too easy to slice fresh meat at the same time.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    Steve saw the cut when he cleaned me off and saw that it was one that needed professional expertise to close it. I've seen the scar (in a mirror) and know it was for the better. The arm is still a bit weak as
    I found when trying to carry my purse and Steve's laptop bag on it
    while deplaning (right hand was dragging a roller bag) a couple of
    times. We had two flights out, two back, changing planes on the way out
    in LVNV and inbound in Phoenix, both familiar to us airports.

    That's why Amazon sells those collapsible roll along baskets. And why I
    bought a fold-up 2 wheel dolly at Harbor Freight that I keepin the boot
    of my Beemer. Lots easier to wheel stuff rather than carry it.

    My Hy-Vee (currently USA Today's #1 Grocer) offers both pick-up and deliverry if I buy U$25 or more worth of grub. Which, given today's
    prices is not at all hard to do. That's how I get pantry items and
    frozen stuff. Fresh meat and produce - I still buy in person. But the delivery (even tipping the driver) or pick-up saves a lot of time and, especially, effort.

    I'm still enjoying shopping in person but may try a pick up/delivery service at some point. Most of our groceries we get at Wegman's but go
    to super big box stores for paper goods, vitamins, etc. Eventually
    we'll probably condense everything down to one store but we're not
    ready to yet.

    I'd bet that Wegman's has a pick-up/delivery service similar to
    Hy-Vee's. I note that all but the "discount" grocers like Ruler Foods
    and Sav-A-Lot have begun offering the pick-up and/or delivery.

    I'm not 100% sure as we've not had the need to check it out. The store
    was being built in 2020-21 (the height of covid) so we were shopping elsewhere.

    And, as convenient as that is I still go, live and in-person to hand
    pick my fresh produce and/or meats.

    Now days, though, I use the "driveable" shopping carts. A great convenience especially in a Big Box store.

    That's how we feel. We came home with some Hawaiian treads (macadamia nuts--dark and milk chocolate covered, garlic/onion and Maui onion flavored), some shrimp seasoning and multi purpose seasoning. All old favorites from when we lived there. Also given some macadamia
    nut/caramel and macadamia nut (other, don't recall off the top of my
    head) bars

    This will be tonight's supper using one of the U$3 rotisserie chickens
    I picked up last evening at th GFS store.

    Title: Crack Chicken Grilled Sandwich
    Categories: Poultry, Cheese, Breads, Pork
    Yield: 1 Serving

    Sounds good. We stopped for supper at a chain seafood place in Raleigh (first choice, non chain, was closed) last night; I brought about half
    of my mustard potato salad and 4 (of 8) broiled shrimp home. Potato
    salad was the best part of the meal as the shrimp were overdone and the cole slaw was a finely chopped cabbage and who knows what tasteless
    mix.

    I've not been to a Dead Lobster in years. If I'm doing "serious" seafood out - I generally hit up Chesapeake Seafood House. chesapeakeseafoodhouse.com

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Gigot Of Monkfish Romarin w/Anchovies
    Categories: Fat ladies, Seafood, Herbs, Citrus
    Yield: 6 Servings

    2 1/4 lb Monkfish tail
    1 Tin anchovy filets
    6 tb Olive oil
    Juice of 1 lemon
    Salt & fresh ground pepper
    1 lg Bunch fresh rosemary

    MMMMM---------------------TOMATO VINAIGRETTE--------------------------
    10 tb Olive oil
    4 ts Wine vinegar
    4 ts Fine chopped tomatoes

    Using a larding needle or a sharp knife, make slits in
    the fish and insert pieces of anchovy. Marinate the fish
    in a mixture of oil and lemon juice, seasoned with salt
    and pepper, for at least 2 hours.

    Lay the fish on a large bed of rosemary in a roasting
    tin. Pour more oil over the fish (It is the presence of
    fat that releases the essential oils of the rosemary).
    Roast in a 350ºF/175ºC oven for 45 minutes.

    To make the tomato vinaigrette, heat the ingredients
    in a small pan and season to taste.

    Transfer the fish to a serving dish and pour over the
    warm vinaigrette.

    Prep Time: 2 hours 15 minutes

    Cooking Time: 45 minutes

    Recipe Courtesy of Jennifer Paterson and Clarissa
    Dickson Wright (The Two Fat Ladies)

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jul 19 06:32:11 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Always good to get some input from someone who has gone thru the same thing. It's not an identical experience but will give you a first hand idea of what to expect. You had radiation light; I had the big guns.
    (G)

    I dunno. That machine I was subjected to was pretty big and had lots
    of moveable arms and attachments. Rather like being in the midst of a ballet as it twirled and the devices on the ends of the arms retreated
    or came near.

    Yes, but you only had what, 5 treatments? I had 35. Same sort of
    machines but the total amount of radiation is quite different.

    Diffrent strokes .... Hopefully I'm done with that. Fortunately there wre
    no major side effects.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    My portable O2 unit is in an over-the-shoulder carrier aboutn the size
    of a mid-sized ladies purse. Guessing at the weight I'd say 8 to 10 pounds.

    You get the O2 in bursts; mine is a continuous flow. The unit is about half the size of my home unit but still takes up a good amount of
    space.

    How long is your battery good for on continuous flow? My portables are
    good for 4 - 5 hours on 3 liters. Continuous, I am told, takes more power
    than "pulsed". I don't care so long as it works. And it's waaaaaay more convenient than wrestling O2 cylinders into and out of the car.

    And, as convenient as that is I still go, live and in-person to hand
    pick my fresh produce and/or meats.

    Now days, though, I use the "driveable" shopping carts. A great convenience especially in a Big Box store.

    I used them when I had my knee replacement and when I broke my left
    foot. Handy, but my dad never let my mom use it--didn't trust her
    driving. (G)

    He wasn't spry enough toduck out of the way? Bv)=

    Partly that, especially as he was usually in front of her. For a while
    she would hang on to the buggy, pushing it, but when that got to be too much, he'd sit her up front on a bench (local store, everybody knew
    them) and he'd take the ride 'em cart.

    I remember at one of the pinics Dale Shipp remarked that he often used
    the grocery trolley as a walker in place of a regular walking frame.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Sounds good. We stopped for supper at a chain seafood place in Raleigh (first choice, non chain, was closed) last night; I brought about half

    I've not been to a Dead Lobster in years. If I'm doing "serious"
    seafood out - I generally hit up Chesapeake Seafood House. chesapeakeseafoodhouse.com

    This was not RL; it was called The Mayflower. We'd been there before, a few times, but found much better seafood elsewhere. Even RL is better.

    Eeeeeewwwwww ... the Lob is sorta the McDonalds of chain seafood. If
    they can't match or better that how do they stay in business. Our most popular seafood place is in an old gas station with a "cook shack" out front. If you want to "dine-in" there is a picnic table between the
    shack and street.

    That's the way to get it. Our favorite casual place is the seafood restaurant at the NC State Farmer's Market. You get a heaping full styrofoam box with hush puppies and a side, usually enough for 2 meals
    or two people splitting the box. My favorite is a combo of shrimp and scallops; it's heavy on the shrimp but the scallops are the bigger ones and sweet!

    Makes me wish we had something like that here.

    Locally caught fish from Lake Springfield, Sangamon and Illnois Rivers
    are offered for sale .... dressed and ready for you to take home and
    cook. Or cooked (deep-fry) out front.

    www.cartersfishmarket.com

    Sounds like a place worthy of our patronage. (G)

    You betcha. I try to arrive when the lines are short. Especially during
    hot weather.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Fish rolls w/Vegetables
    Categories: Seafood, Vegetables, Dairy, Cheese
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb Vegetables; carrot, celery,
    - potato, peas and others
    1 1/2 lb Fish fillet
    2 lg Eggs
    1 c Milk
    1 md Onion; chopped
    Salt & pepper
    3 oz Grated cheese
    3 tb Oil
    Scallion greens or chives;
    - sliced

    Slice peeled vegetables and stew all together until half
    done. Sprinkle sliced fillet with salt, chopped onion
    and pepper and roll into small logs and secure with
    wooden sticks. Put the rolls on stewed vegetables, pour
    over milk combined with eggs and arrange some butter
    pieces on top. Cover and stew in the preheated oven for
    30 minutes. Sprinkle with chopped greens before serving.

    Source: Olga Timokhina

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.ruscuisine.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:396/45 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jul 23 07:45:36 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Diffrent strokes .... Hopefully I'm done with that. Fortunately there
    wre no major side effects.

    Good, and hopefully there will be (slow growing)no re
    a currance.

    Well, it was a small cancer. And squamous cell (slow growing) rather
    than a melanoma.

    Mine was DCIS--Ductal Carcinoma in Situ (IOW, in a milk duct). I have
    to make sure I get the annual check up. Reason it was caught at an
    early stage was that I'd put off my annual check up for 6 months, due
    to moving from HI to GA. Steve had an appointment at the Fort Stewart hospital so I called to see if I could get in that day for a mammogram.
    If I'd gone in at the time I was supposed to, then again the next year,
    it would not have been caught at such an early stage.

    Learned something (re-learned, actually) when reading about cancer. Men
    can develop breast cancer even though they can't give milk.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    My portable O2 unit is in an over-the-shoulder carrie
    I really don't recall exactly off the top of my head. I know when we
    flew out to Vancouver (flight to toronto, then 2nd one to Vancouver),
    we were asked if the battery would last the length of the flight and we told them "yes". Didn't need the machine in flight but it had to fly in the cabin, just in case........ And yes, we've a friend who goes thru several cylinders a day now. He doesn't get out much any more.

    If he's not getting around much anymore why would he go through the cylinders?
    I keep on in the passenger side of my car. But, at 3 L flow setting
    it's good for more than an hour. And around home I'm on the floor
    standing conventrator.

    I don't know full details but do know last year at the VFW Christmas
    party he had to have someone go out and get a new tank; he commented
    about going thru several whenever he's out. I presume he has a floor
    model concentrator for home use.

    He must stay out for extended periods and at a hih flow rate. My pulmonoloist has reduced me to 2 LPM so I get a couple hours off a tank.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Some years ago we headed over to this place after working all day at a sewing/quilting expo. It was crowded and loud; I wanted someplace quiet
    so we ended up elsewhwere.

    As long as the food didn't send you to St. Elsewhere. Bv)=

    No, it didn't. I needed the quietness after 3 full days of working the expo so even tho the food wasn't quite what we'd wanted to get, having
    the calmer atmosphere was worth it.

    Just a chance to relax and eat something to hold you until you get home. Restaurantss/cafes are, to me, more social places. If the food is good,
    that's a bonus.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Charlie Parker's Diner Breakfast Horseshoe
    Categories: Pork, Breads, Cheese, Sauces, Potatoes
    Yield: 1 Serving

    1 English Muffin
    2 lg Eggs; cooked as desired
    4 sl Thick-cut bacon
    6 oz Cheese sauce
    6 oz Sausage gravy
    12 oz Shredded hash browns

    Butter and grill both halves of an English muffin to a
    light gold appearance.

    Place both halves of the English muffin on a plate,
    buttered side up.

    Place 2 strips of cooked bacon on each English muffin
    half.

    Ladle 6 oz of cheese sauce on one English muffin half.

    Ladle 6 oz of sausage gravy on the other English muffin
    half.

    Cover entire plate with freshly cooked hash brown.

    UDD Notes: I've et this critter. It's good. But, there
    are better (I think) breakfast shoes in Springfield.
    Nearly every breakfast joint around here has a version.
    The secret (if there is one) is in the cheese sauce and
    especially the sausage gravy.

    Recipe from: http://thomasbreakfastbattle.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jul 23 14:15:36 2025
    Hi Dave,


    Well, it was a small cancer. And squamous cell (slow growing) rather
    than a melanoma.

    Mine was DCIS--Ductal Carcinoma in Situ (IOW, in a milk duct). I have
    to make sure I get the annual check up. Reason it was caught at an
    early stage was that I'd put off my annual check up for 6 months, due
    to moving from HI to GA. Steve had an appointment at the Fort Stewart

    Learned something (re-learned, actually) when reading about cancer.
    Men can develop breast cancer even though they can't give milk.

    Yes, that's something I learned quite some time ago.

    cylinders?
    I keep on in the passenger side of my car. But, at 3 L flow setting
    it's good for more than an hour. And around home I'm on the floor
    standing conventrator.

    I don't know full details but do know last year at the VFW Christmas
    party he had to have someone go out and get a new tank; he commented
    about going thru several whenever he's out. I presume he has a floor
    model concentrator for home use.

    He must stay out for extended periods and at a hih flow rate. My pulmonoloist has reduced me to 2 LPM so I get a couple hours off a
    tank.

    The VFW event isn't quite 3 hours, don't know his prior health history
    so can't comment more.


    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Some years ago we headed over to this place after working all day at a sewing/quilting expo. It was crowded and loud; I wanted someplace quiet
    so we ended up elsewhwere.

    As long as the food didn't send you to St. Elsewhere. Bv)=

    No, it didn't. I needed the quietness after 3 full days of working the expo so even tho the food wasn't quite what we'd wanted to get, having
    the calmer atmosphere was worth it.

    Just a chance to relax and eat something to hold you until you get
    home. Restaurantss/cafes are, to me, more social places. If the food
    is good, that's a bonus.

    It was ok, not great, but it filled the need for something quiet.


    Title: Charlie Parker's Diner Breakfast Horseshoe
    Categories: Pork, Breads, Cheese, Sauces, Potatoes
    Yield: 1 Serving

    1 English Muffin
    2 lg Eggs; cooked as desired
    4 sl Thick-cut bacon
    6 oz Cheese sauce
    6 oz Sausage gravy
    12 oz Shredded hash browns

    UDD Notes: I've et this critter. It's good. But, there
    are better (I think) breakfast shoes in Springfield.
    Nearly every breakfast joint around here has a version.
    The secret (if there is one) is in the cheese sauce and
    especially the sausage gravy.

    I don't know if I could eat all of this in one sitting. I'd probably be
    able to eat about half of it; does anybody do a smaller version?

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jul 26 07:27:54 2025
    RUTH HAFFLY wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    Title: Charlie Parker's Diner Breakfast Horseshoe
    Categories: Pork, Breads, Cheese, Sauces, Potatoes
    Yield: 1 Serving

    1 English Muffin
    2 lg Eggs; cooked as desired
    4 sl Thick-cut bacon
    6 oz Cheese sauce
    6 oz Sausage gravy
    12 oz Shredded hash browns

    UDD Notes: I've et this critter. It's good. But, there
    are better (I think) breakfast shoes in Springfield.
    Nearly every breakfast joint around here has a version.
    The secret (if there is one) is in the cheese sauce and
    especially the sausage gravy.

    I don't know if I could eat all of this in one sitting. I'd probably be able to eat about half of it; does anybody do a smaller version?

    They offer a "Pony" version - appoximatel;y half-sized. I have trouble
    getting myself wrapped around a full 'Shoe these days as my food intake
    has decreased. Some days even a Pony shoe can be an overload.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Chef Joe Schweska's Original Horseshoe Sauce Recipe
    Categories: Cheese, Beer, Sauces
    Yield: 3 Quarts

    1/2 lb Butter
    1 tb Salt
    1/4 lb (to 1/2 lb) flour
    1/2 ts Cayenne pepper
    1 ts Dry mustard
    1 qt + 1 cup milk
    3 tb Worchestershire sauce
    3 lb Chopped Old English Cheddar
    - cheese
    1 pt Beer

    Tom McGee shared this recipe. Tom says, "This is the
    original recipe that I have from my bother-in-law,
    Joseph E. Schweska Jr., (which was his father's recipe)

    Melt butter, add flour and milk. Add rest of ingredients
    except beer. Stir constantly, while cooking, to a smooth
    cream sauce. Stir in beer to sauce just before serving.

    Makes 2 1/2 to 3 quarts.

    From: http://www.whatscookingamerica.net

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Jul 25 10:25:03 2025
    Hi Dave,


    Well, it was a small cancer. And squamous cell (slow growing) rather
    than a melanoma.

    Mine was DCIS--Ductal Carcinoma in Situ (IOW, in a milk duct). I have
    to make sure I get the annual check up. Reason it was caught at an
    early stage was that I'd put off my annual check up for 6 months, due
    to moving from HI to GA. Steve had an appointment at the Fort Stewart

    Learned something (re-learned, actually) when reading about cancer.
    Men can develop breast cancer even though they can't give milk.

    Yes, that's something I learned quite some time ago.

    cylinders?
    I keep on in the passenger side of my car. But, at 3 L flow setting
    it's good for more than an hour. And around home I'm on the floor
    standing conventrator.


    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Some years ago we headed over to this place after working all day at a sewing/quilting expo. It was crowded and loud; I wanted someplace quiet
    so we ended up elsewhwere.

    As long as the food didn't send you to St. Elsewhere. Bv)=

    No, it didn't. I needed the quietness after 3 full days of working the expo so even tho the food wasn't quite what we'd wanted to get, having
    the calmer atmosphere was worth it.

    Just a chance to relax and eat something to hold you until you get
    home. Restaurantss/cafes are, to me, more social places. If the food
    is good, that's a bonus.

    It was ok, not great, but it filled the need for something quiet.


    Title: Charlie Parker's Diner Breakfast Horseshoe
    Categories: Pork, Breads, Cheese, Sauces, Potatoes
    Yield: 1 Serving

    1 English Muffin
    2 lg Eggs; cooked as desired
    4 sl Thick-cut bacon
    6 oz Cheese sauce
    6 oz Sausage gravy
    12 oz Shredded hash browns

    UDD Notes: I've et this critter. It's good. But, there
    are better (I think) breakfast shoes in Springfield.
    Nearly every breakfast joint around here has a version.
    The secret (if there is one) is in the cheese sauce and
    especially the sausage gravy.

    I don't know if I could eat all of this in one sitting. I'd probably be
    able to eat about half of it; does anybody do a smaller version?

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Jul 28 14:39:52 2025
    Hi Dave,


    Title: Charlie Parker's Diner Breakfast Horseshoe
    Categories: Pork, Breads, Cheese, Sauces, Potatoes
    Yield: 1 Serving

    I don't know if I could eat all of this in one sitting. I'd probably be able to eat about half of it; does anybody do a smaller version?

    They offer a "Pony" version - appoximatel;y half-sized. I have trouble

    Which means I'd probably be better off ordering something else. Egg,
    meat and English muffin, probably but no potatoes or cheese sauce.

    IOW an Egg McMuffin.

    No, I prefer them as separate items. I'm not sure what kind of meat and
    cheese McD's uses but I don't care for the way they combine with the not
    so great egg on the muffin. We've made our own version from time to
    time, but I still would rather have the separate components.


    Title: Chef Joe Schweska's Original Horseshoe Sauce Recipe
    Categories: Cheese, Beer, Sauces
    Yield: 3 Quarts

    The beer would be a no go for me. I know, the alcohol cooks out but the hop flavor remains.

    And is part of the flavour profile

    Which neither Steve nor I like.


    I really like this recipe - but I don't make it often since I don't
    drink beer at home and the other 5 cans of a six-pack take a lot of valuable space in the icebox.


    Title: Brussels Sprouts in Beer
    Categories: Five, Vegetables, Beer
    Yield: 2 Servings

    I like Brussels sprouts, most of the time roasted, with a drizzle of of balsamic vinegar and tossed with crumbled bacon. The only way Steve will
    eat them is thin shaved in a kale salad mix we've found at Sam's Club
    and Wegman's.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jul 29 14:59:47 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    No, I prefer them as separate items. I'm not sure what kind of meat and cheese McD's uses but I don't care for the way they combine with the
    not so great egg on the muffin. We've made our own version from time to time, but I still would rather have the separate components.

    Canadian bacon (backbacon) and American cheese. The eggs are fresh eggs steamed on a grill using an egg ring.

    I've made several thousand of them in my time...

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Red Lobster Copycat Biscuits
    Categories: Red, Lobster
    Yield: 12 Servings

    1 c Skim milk
    1/3 c Fat-free mayonnaise
    1 tb Sugar
    4 ts Baking powder
    2 c All-purpose flour
    1/2 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Garlic powder
    2/3 c Grated cheddar cheese
    Liquid margarine

    Combine flour,sugar, baking powder, garlic powder, and salt in bowl.

    Add milk and mayonnaise. Mix with rubber spatula until not quite
    smooth, adding cheddar cheese when almost done mixing. Blend
    thoroughly into dough.

    Place blobs of dough on lightly greased cookie sheet.

    Give each blob one light spray of liquid margerine.

    Bake at 450 degrees about 25 minutes until golden. Posted to TNT -
    Prodigy's Recipe Exchange Newsletter 11 Jan 97

    Recipe by: Tim Champney

    From: Sherry Zeiss <zeiss@tab.com>

    Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 09:44:31 -0600

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jul 30 08:05:06 2025
    RUTH HAFFLY wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    Title: Charlie Parker's Diner Breakfast Horseshoe
    Categories: Pork, Breads, Cheese, Sauces, Potatoes
    Yield: 1 Serving

    I don't know if I could eat all of this in one sitting. I'd probably be able to eat about half of it; does anybody do a smaller version?

    They offer a "Pony" version - appoximatel;y half-sized. I have trouble

    Which means I'd probably be better off ordering something else. Egg,
    meat and English muffin, probably but no potatoes or cheese sauce.

    IOW an Egg McMuffin.

    No, I prefer them as separate items. I'm not sure what kind of meat and cheese McD's uses but I don't care for the way they combine with the
    not so great egg on the muffin. We've made our own version from time to time, but I still would rather have the separate components.

    Mickey D's uses Canadian Bascon or breeakfast sausage as the meat, the
    cheese is "American" (mild Cheddar). The egg is just a hard-cooked egg
    done in a ring to make it round. The other fats food joints use pre-mix "scrambled" egg.

    Title: Chef Joe Schweska's Original Horseshoe Sauce Recipe
    Categories: Cheese, Beer, Sauces
    Yield: 3 Quarts

    The beer would be a no go for me. I know, the alcohol cooks out but the hop flavor remains.

    And is part of the flavour profile

    Which neither Steve nor I like.

    I've had cheese sauce both ways - and the real McCoy is much more to my
    liking.

    I really like this recipe - but I don't make it often since I don't
    drink beer at home and the other 5 cans of a six-pack take a lot of valuable space in the icebox.


    Title: Brussels Sprouts in Beer
    Categories: Five, Vegetables, Beer
    Yield: 2 Servings

    I like Brussels sprouts, most of the time roasted, with a drizzle of of balsamic vinegar and tossed with crumbled bacon. The only way Steve
    will eat them is thin shaved in a kale salad mix we've found at Sam's
    Club and Wegman's.

    I always figured they were some sort of dwarf cabbage. I like 'em baked, broiled, fried, steamed, boilede, etc. Whole or halved. Never trie4d (that
    I know of) shaved.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Copycat Mcdonald's Egg Mcmuffin
    Categories: Breads, Pork, Cheese, Eggs
    Yield: 1 servings

    1 English muffin; split open
    1 tb Butter
    1 sl American cheese
    1 lg Egg
    pn Salt
    1/4 c Water
    1 sl Canadian bacon

    Toast both halves of the English muffin until they're
    golden brown. Spread the butter over the insides.

    Place the bottom of the English muffin on a plate and
    lay the slice of cheese over it.

    Lightly grease the inside of the egg ring with vegetable
    shortening or oil, then set the egg ring on your nonstick
    skillet. Let the skillet and ring get good and hot over
    medium heat. Crack the egg into the egg ring and use a
    fork or the tip of a knife to pierce the yolk. Sprinkle
    the salt over the egg.

    Here's the big secret that I learned from a family
    friend, Oliver Alvarez, who works at McDonald's: Add
    steam. Trapping steam around the egg while it cooks
    helps it set quickly, and gives it a puffy, light
    texture. To do this, pour a bit of water in the pan
    around the outside of the egg ring and cover with a lid.
    Let the egg cook for about three minutes until it's set.
    Remove the pan from the heat, and gently lift the egg
    ring to reveal your cooked, perfectly round egg.

    Use a spatula to move the egg onto the cheese slice on
    the muffin.

    Add the Canadian bacon slice to the still-hot skillet
    and cook it for one minute on each side. Slide the hot
    bacon on top of the egg. Add the top half of the English
    muffin to complete the sandwich, and enjoy it while it's
    hot!

    HOW DO I GET THE PERFECT ROUND EGG? Look for metal egg
    rings with a little heft (instead of lightweight
    silicone). The extra weight will help prevent the egg
    white from seeping under the bottom. Make sure you let
    the skillet and egg ring get hot before adding the egg.
    The heat will quickly set the egg white, which helps
    keep it in the egg ring.

    If you don't want to use an egg ring, look around your
    kitchen! Round cookie cutters (make sure they're heat-
    resistant) and Mason jar lids can work just as well as
    an egg ring. Whichever method you're using, be sure to
    grease the egg ring generously (as well as the pan). If
    you really want to experiment, you can also use a thick
    onion ring slice as an egg ring but the egg may not
    release from the onion.

    Nancy Mock, Horse Apple, Vermont

    Makes: 1 serving

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Wed Jul 30 19:40:54 2025
    Hi Sean,


    No, I prefer them as separate items. I'm not sure what kind of meat and cheese McD's uses but I don't care for the way they combine with the
    not so great egg on the muffin. We've made our own version from time to time, but I still would rather have the separate components.

    Canadian bacon (backbacon) and American cheese. The eggs are fresh
    eggs steamed on a grill using an egg ring.

    OK, I don't like Canadian bacon as much as regular bacon and the
    American stuff I can't even call cheese. My parents used to buy that for
    cheese (just cheese and white bread) or toasted cheese sandwiches; when
    Steve and I got married, we bought nothing but the real thing.

    I've made several thousand of them in my time...

    But how many have you eaten? (G)


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jul 30 20:08:24 2025
    Hi Dave,

    They offer a "Pony" version - appoximatel;y half-sized. I have trouble

    Which means I'd probably be better off ordering something else. Egg,
    meat and English muffin, probably but no potatoes or cheese sauce.

    IOW an Egg McMuffin.

    No, I prefer them as separate items. I'm not sure what kind of meat and cheese McD's uses but I don't care for the way they combine with the
    not so great egg on the muffin. We've made our own version from time to time, but I still would rather have the separate components.

    Mickey D's uses Canadian Bascon or breeakfast sausage as the meat, the cheese is "American" (mild Cheddar). The egg is just a hard-cooked egg done in a ring to make it round. The other fats food joints use
    pre-mix "scrambled" egg.

    I'd rather have a good extra sharp cheddar, slice of ham or sausage on
    the side and scrambled eggs, grits or wheat toast. Or, instead of the
    eggs, cheese and meat separate, an omelette with all of them or veggies.

    I really like this recipe - but I don't make it often since I don't
    drink beer at home and the other 5 cans of a six-pack take a lot of valuable space in the icebox.


    Title: Brussels Sprouts in Beer
    Categories: Five, Vegetables, Beer
    Yield: 2 Servings

    I like Brussels sprouts, most of the time roasted, with a drizzle of of balsamic vinegar and tossed with crumbled bacon. The only way Steve
    will eat them is thin shaved in a kale salad mix we've found at Sam's
    Club and Wegman's.

    I always figured they were some sort of dwarf cabbage. I like 'em
    baked, broiled, fried, steamed, boilede, etc. Whole or halved. Never trie4d (that I know of) shaved.

    Check out some of the prepackaged salad mixes; that's where we find the
    shaved sprouts.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Not all questions worth asking have answers...

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jul 31 15:45:22 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    But how many have you eaten? (G)

    BNot that m,any. I usually got my breaks after 10:30 AM which is when
    McD's switches to lunch on the weekdays. On weekends, it's 11 AM but my manager would often give me weekends off because I was older and she
    "had lots of teenagers to work".

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Mcdonald's Big Mac Sauce
    Categories: Sauces, Beef, Copycat
    Yield: 2 Cups

    1 c Miracle Whip
    1/3 c Sweet relish
    1/4 c French dressing (orange not
    -red)
    1 tb Sugar
    1/4 ts Black pepper
    1 ts Minced onion

    Mix ingredients well. Posted to MM-Recipes Digest V3 #282.

    Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:25:01 -0400

    From: BobbieB1@aol.com

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Fri Aug 1 13:45:56 2025
    Hi Sean,


    But how many have you eaten? (G)

    BNot that m,any. I usually got my breaks after 10:30 AM which is when McD's switches to lunch on the weekdays. On weekends, it's 11 AM but
    my manager would often give me weekends off because I was older and
    she "had lots of teenagers to work".

    So you did rather well, not having to eat McD's all the time. When we
    were in AZ, our younger daughter worked at Taco Bell while in high
    school. One night we stopped in, forget why, but it was during supper
    time. Her manager gave us her meal discount that night. (G) One night,
    after a day of high school, drill team practice, then a shift at TB, she
    came home about 10 pm with both a Taco Bell meal and one from McD's. She devoured them both--I would have been doing good to finish one--and went
    to bed shortly afterward as she had school the next day. She did well at
    TB but decided not to move into a manager's job.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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