• Re: Red Gravy

    From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Aug 18 07:35:43 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I can-and have - do my own red pasta or pizza sauce. I learned early
    on from my mother that spaghetti sauce is an *all day* deal. Even with short cuts it takes more time than I care to spend these days.

    I'm home most days so can do it while multi tasking with laundry,
    sewing, reading the paper (on line) or whatever else needs doing. Made
    in quantity, it freezes well.

    I have to take Dennis' eating schedule into account since it is different
    from mine. He sometimes does eaags, meat and taters after noon. And uses
    the whole stove top it seems. If I have a pot of sauce on one of the
    burners ..........

    Especially as I am mostly cooking for one. So I buya jus of Onofrio's (probably not to be had in your range of territory)or Rao's. Or one
    of the not so premium brands like Bertolli or RH> Classico and
    "tart it up" to my taste.

    We bought some Rao's this spring at Sam's Club to take on our bug road trip. Ended up not using it then but did, once we got home. I added
    some extra herbs/spicing for the pasta sauce but we've used it right
    out of the jar for quick pizzas. It is a "will buy again". When we were
    up in VT a few years ago, Steve and I shopped and cooked for our
    mission team. I had a nasty case of bronchitis so he did the initial shopping at Hanniford's, a northeast grocery chain. We usually do spaghetti for the first team meal so I told him to buy a jar of sauce
    and we'd doctor it up. He bought their (IIRC) classic sauce, don't know
    if he added anything but it was pretty good. I think we brought a jar
    home with us. (G)

    Classico and Bertolli's are both superior (IMO) to Prego.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    ... "Hard work should be rewarded by good food." -- Ken Follett

    He's one of my favorite authors.

    My favourites are Heinlein, Lamour, Asimov, and lately James Lee
    Burke.

    Mine include Michener, Barbara Taylor Bradford, Alison Wier and
    Philippa Gregory. First 2 aren't writing any more but have books out
    I've yet to read. Last 2, my older daughter got me reading when she
    loaned me a Wier book.

    None of the first three I named are above ground any longer so their output is severely restricted. But I have read everything they have published with the exception of Dr. Asimov's biochemistry treatises.

    If you enjoy cops 'n' robbers books that are well written or just well written/plotted/presented stories I do recommend James Lee Burke

    My favorite genre is historic fiction, 3 of the 4 above named authors
    are (were) major writers of that, Wier and Gregory writing a lot about Henry VIII and relatives.

    Heinlein wrote "science fiction" and it's amazing how much ofthe stuff
    he "blue skyed" in his work had come to pass. Asimov wrote both science
    fiction and mysteries and won the top award in both categories. The top
    award for mysteries/detective stories (the EDGAR) in novel, serialized
    novel and short story categories. Louis Lamour won multiple SPUR awards
    as well as Oscars for his writings. And James Lee Burke has more than
    one EDGAR for his output.

    I enjoy sci-fi, mysteries, historical fiction (and fact), biographies,
    etc. And I much prefer reading a book to watching the boob tube or the
    movies.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Sylvia's Class Act Dinner Theater Chicken Rosemary
    Categories: Poultry, Herbs, Wine
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1/2 c A-P flour
    1/2 ts Salt
    1/4 ts Pepper
    6 (6 oz ea) boned, skinned
    - chicken breasts
    1/4 c Olive oil
    6 cl Garlic; minced (2 tb)
    1 c Chicken broth
    1/4 c Pale dry sherry
    1/4 ts Dried rosemary

    Combine flour, salt and pepper. Dredge chicken breasts
    in flour mixture, shaking off excess.

    Heat oil over medium heat in a large skillet. Brown
    chicken in oil until lightly browned, approximately 5
    minutes on each side. Remove from skillet. Add minced
    garlic to the skillet and saute' lightly. Stir in
    chicken broth and sherry.

    Return chicken to skillet and sprinkle with rosemary.
    Cover skillet tightly with a lid, and simmer slowly
    for 30 to 45 minutes, or until chicken is tender.
    Thicken juice, if desired.

    Makes 4 to 6 servings

    SOURCE: Sylvia's Italian Restaurant, Portland, Oregon.
    Published in the Oregonian.

    Shared by Cate Vanicek

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Aug 18 13:31:54 2025
    Hi Dave,


    I can-and have - do my own red pasta or pizza sauce. I learned early
    on from my mother that spaghetti sauce is an *all day* deal. Even with short cuts it takes more time than I care to spend these days.

    I'm home most days so can do it while multi tasking with laundry,
    sewing, reading the paper (on line) or whatever else needs doing. Made
    in quantity, it freezes well.

    I have to take Dennis' eating schedule into account since it is
    different from mine. He sometimes does eaags, meat and taters after
    noon. And uses the whole stove top it seems. If I have a pot of sauce
    on one of the burners ..........

    Sigh! One good thing about starting the sauce earlier in the day is that
    you can turn it off for an hour or two part way thru cooking, then
    resume. If you have enough room, keep it on the stove top, moved to the
    back. Or, depending on the pot size, put it in the oven on a low setting
    and let it keep cooking.

    Especially as I am mostly cooking for one. So I buya jus of
    Onofrio's DD> (probably not to be had in your range of territory)or
    Rao's. Or one DD> of the not so premium brands like Bertolli or RH>
    Classico and GG> "tart it up" to my taste.

    We bought some Rao's this spring at Sam's Club to take on our bug road trip. Ended up not using it then but did, once we got home. I added
    some extra herbs/spicing for the pasta sauce but we've used it right
    out of the jar for quick pizzas. It is a "will buy again". When we were
    up in VT a few years ago, Steve and I shopped and cooked for our
    mission team. I had a nasty case of bronchitis so he did the initial shopping at Hanniford's, a northeast grocery chain. We usually do spaghetti for the first team meal so I told him to buy a jar of sauce
    and we'd doctor it up. He bought their (IIRC) classic sauce, don't know
    if he added anything but it was pretty good. I think we brought a jar
    home with us. (G)

    Classico and Bertolli's are both superior (IMO) to Prego.

    Sauce was one thing my mom never bought, even tho hers was more like a
    sort of chili, with Italian seasoning and no beans. Told Steve when we
    first got married, I'd make his mom's sauce, then my mom's and we'd
    decide which to go with. My mom's version is what we use for a
    beef-a-roni type meal. (G)

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    ... "Hard work should be rewarded by good food." -- Ken Follett

    He's one of my favorite authors.

    My favourites are Heinlein, Lamour, Asimov, and lately James Lee
    Burke.

    Mine include Michener, Barbara Taylor Bradford, Alison Wier and
    Philippa Gregory. First 2 aren't writing any more but have books out
    I've yet to read. Last 2, my older daughter got me reading when she
    loaned me a Wier book.

    None of the first three I named are above ground any longer so their output is severely restricted. But I have read everything they have published with the exception of Dr. Asimov's biochemistry treatises.

    If you enjoy cops 'n' robbers books that are well written or just well written/plotted/presented stories I do recommend James Lee Burke

    My favorite genre is historic fiction, 3 of the 4 above named authors
    are (were) major writers of that, Wier and Gregory writing a lot about Henry VIII and relatives.

    Heinlein wrote "science fiction" and it's amazing how much ofthe stuff
    he "blue skyed" in his work had come to pass. Asimov wrote both
    science fiction and mysteries and won the top award in both
    categories. The top award for mysteries/detective stories (the EDGAR)
    in novel, serialized
    novel and short story categories. Louis Lamour won multiple SPUR
    awards as well as Oscars for his writings. And James Lee Burke has
    more than one EDGAR for his output.

    Not my cuppa tea, tried sci-fi around junior high school but never
    developed an interest in it. Might try Louis Lamour one of these days.

    I enjoy sci-fi, mysteries, historical fiction (and fact),
    biographies, etc. And I much prefer reading a book to watching the
    boob tube or the movies.

    I enjoy a well written biography; David McCullugh (think I spelled the
    name wrong) wrote one on Harry Truman that I enjoyed. As for tv--news,
    Jeopardy and (in the summer) America's Got Talent is about all we watch.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:320/219 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Aug 20 11:40:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I have to take Dennis' eating schedule into account since it is
    different from mine. He sometimes does eaags, meat and taters after
    noon. And uses the whole stove top it seems. If I have a pot of sauce
    on one of the burners ..........

    Sigh! One good thing about starting the sauce earlier in the day is
    that you can turn it off for an hour or two part way thru cooking, then resume. If you have enough room, keep it on the stove top, moved to the back. Or, depending on the pot size, put it in the oven on a low
    setting and let it keep cooking.

    That would work except that's where he puts the potzen pans that usually arestored on the stove for lack of vupboard space.

    Especially as I am mostly cooking for one. So I buya jus of
    Onofrio's DD> (probably not to be had in your range of territory)or
    Rao's. Or one DD> of the not so premium brands like Bertolli or RH>
    Classico and GG> "tart it up" to my taste.

    We bought some Rao's this spring at Sam's Club to take on our bug road trip. Ended up not using it then but did, once we got home. I added
    some extra herbs/spicing for the pasta sauce but we've used it right
    out of the jar for quick pizzas. It is a "will buy again". When we were
    up in VT a few years ago, Steve and I shopped and cooked for our
    mission team. I had a nasty case of bronchitis so he did the initial shopping at Hanniford's, a northeast grocery chain. We usually do spaghetti for the first team meal so I told him to buy a jar of sauce
    and we'd doctor it up. He bought their (IIRC) classic sauce, don't know
    if he added anything but it was pretty good. I think we brought a jar
    home with us. (G)

    Classico and Bertolli's are both superior (IMO) to Prego.

    Sauce was one thing my mom never bought, even tho hers was more like a sort of chili, with Italian seasoning and no beans. Told Steve when we first got married, I'd make his mom's sauce, then my mom's and we'd
    decide which to go with. My mom's version is what we use for a
    beef-a-roni type meal. (G)

    My mother learned her sauce from ladies in the neighbourhood who either
    recent immigrants or second generation. We had a lot of various ethnic
    cuisines represented in the families of coal miners.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    ... "Hard work should be rewarded by good food." -- Ken Follett

    He's one of my favorite authors.

    My favourites are Heinlein, Lamour, Asimov, and lately James Lee
    Burke.

    Mine include Michener, Barbara Taylor Bradford, Alison Wier and
    Philippa Gregory. First 2 aren't writing any more but have books out
    I've yet to read. Last 2, my older daughter got me reading when she
    loaned me a Wier book.

    None of the first three I named are above ground any longer so their output is severely restricted. But I have read everything they have published with the exception of Dr. Asimov's biochemistry treatises.

    If you enjoy cops 'n' robbers books that are well written or just well written/plotted/presented stories I do recommend James Lee Burke

    My favorite genre is historic fiction, 3 of the 4 above named authors
    are (were) major writers of that, Wier and Gregory writing a lot about Henry VIII and relatives.

    Heinlein wrote "science fiction" and it's amazing how much ofthe stuff
    he "blue skyed" in his work had come to pass. Asimov wrote both
    science fiction and mysteries and won the top award in both
    categories. The top award for mysteries/detective stories (the EDGAR)
    in novel, serialized
    novel and short story categories. Louis Lamour won multiple SPUR
    awards as well as Oscars for his writings. And James Lee Burke has
    more than one EDGAR for his output.

    Not my cuppa tea, tried sci-fi around junior high school but never developed an interest in it. Might try Louis Lamour one of these days.

    Another good Westerns/Frontier author is Elmer Kelton - also a multiple
    "Spur award" winner from the Western Writers of America.

    I enjoy sci-fi, mysteries, historical fiction (and fact),
    biographies, etc. And I much prefer reading a book to watching the
    boob tube or the movies.

    I enjoy a well written biography; David McCullugh (think I spelled the name wrong) wrote one on Harry Truman that I enjoyed. As for tv--news, Jeopardy and (in the summer) America's Got Talent is about all we
    watch.

    TV for me is just a "babble box". It does keep Dennis entertained though.
    He seems to have one or the other of the "Talking Head" channels pouring
    out their soporific drivel droning away formuch of the day. Or re-runs of
    "F Troop".

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Horsemeat Sirloin w/Ground Cherries
    Categories: Exotics, Wine, Fruits, Nuts
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 (1 lb ea) horse meat sirloin
    - slices; boneless

    MMMMM--------------------GROUND CHERRY SAUCE-------------------------
    1/4 c (60 mL) extra virgin olive
    - oil
    1 tb (15 mL) French shallots;
    - chopped
    3 tb (45 mL) Sicilian pistachios
    1/4 c (60 mL) white wine *
    1/2 c (125 mL) ground cherries;
    - halved
    2 ts (10 mL) white wine vinegar
    2 ts (10 mL) maple syrup
    1/4 c (60 mL) demi-glace sauce;
    - reconstituted

    * Substitute of white grape juice will work.

    In a frying pan, warm 2 Tbsp. (30 mL) of olive oil. Brown
    the shallots and peanuts. Deglaze with the white wine. Let
    reduce by half. Add ground cherries and let simmer 1 to 2
    minutes.

    Fold in the vinegar, maple syrup and demi-glace sauce.
    Simmer 1 minute. Set aside. In a hot frying pan, add the
    rest of the oil and cook the slices of sirloin 2 to 4
    minutes each side.

    Serve with the ground cherry sauce.

    From: http://www.metro.ca/recette

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  • From Dave Drum@1:396/45 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Aug 22 07:41:34 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    That would work except that's where he puts the potzen pans that
    usually arestored on the stove for lack of vupboard space.

    Can't win! Do you have a grill with a side burner? We've cooked strong smelling stuff (collards) or long cooking (canning, especially in the summer) things on that.

    I've never had collard greens in my house. And, having tried them down
    Aunt Lou's Soul Food - I'm not likely to. I did learn that "Soul food"
    is just po' folks country cooking. Not a black/white thing.

    Classico and Bertolli's are both superior (IMO) to Prego.

    Sauce was one thing my mom never bought, even tho hers was more like a sort of chili, with Italian seasoning and no beans. Told Steve when we first got married, I'd make his mom's sauce, then my mom's and we'd
    decide which to go with. My mom's version is what we use for a
    beef-a-roni type meal. (G)

    My mother learned her sauce from ladies in the neighbourhood who
    either recent immigrants or second generation. We had a lot of various ethnic cuisines represented in the families of coal miners.

    We're going to do tortillini tonight with a sage/butter sauce. One of
    the farmers at the market gave us the basic recipe some years
    ago...melt some butter in a fry pan, add several sage leaves and let
    them brown. Remove leaves and pour butter over cooked tortillini. Optional--add fresh grated parmesan cheese to taste. Easy to do as I'm fighting bronchitis again.

    I'll have to try that sauce sometime. I do a garlic-butter sauce to drizzle over diced hash browns.

    See below for my favourite tortellini recipe.

    If you enjoy cops 'n' robbers books that are well written or just well written/plotted/presented stories I do recommend James Lee Burke

    My favorite genre is historic fiction, 3 of the 4 above named authors
    are (were) major writers of that, Wier and Gregory writing a lot about Henry VIII and relatives.

    Heinlein wrote "science fiction" and it's amazing how much ofthe stuff
    he "blue skyed" in his work had come to pass. Asimov wrote both
    science fiction and mysteries and won the top award in both
    categories. The top award for mysteries/detective stories (the EDGAR)
    in novel, serialized
    novel and short story categories. Louis Lamour won multiple SPUR
    awards as well as Oscars for his writings. And James Lee Burke has
    more than one EDGAR for his output.

    Not my cuppa tea, tried sci-fi around junior high school but never developed an interest in it. Might try Louis Lamour one of these days.

    Another good Westerns/Frontier author is Elmer Kelton - also a
    multiple "Spur award" winner from the Western Writers of America.

    I met him when we were stationed in San Angelo in spring of 1984.
    Bought one of his books and got it autographed right away.

    Lucky you. Elmer was a working newspaperman for his 9 to 5 job. He
    wrote a good stick.

    8<-----SNIP ----->8

    TV for me is just a "babble box". It does keep Dennis entertained
    though. He seems to have one or the other of the "Talking Head"
    channels pouring out their soporific drivel droning away formuch of
    the day. Or re-runs of "F Troop".

    By not having cable and other Sunday committments, we avoid most of the talking head shows and channels. We can get MeTV that shows a lot of
    the oldies but we choose just to keep the tv off for the most part.
    Last night was the first live performance night on AGT so tonight we'll see who was voted off, who continues. One contestant is an undertaker/comedian;--good, clean, funny!!!

    The boob tube in the front room gets more use as a 32" monitor for Dennis' confuser than as a telly.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dave's Tortellini Supper
    Categories: Pasta, Vegetables, Pork, Cheese, Sauces
    Yield: 6 Servings

    19 oz Bag cheese-filled
    - tortellini
    10 oz Box broccoli florets; thawed
    26 oz Jar Onofrio's Basilico Sauce
    32 oz Italian sausage; sweet or
    - hot
    1 ts Garlic granules
    1/4 ts Black pepper
    Grated/shredded Parmesan

    In a skillet over high heat cook and stir the sausage,
    breaking up any lumps. When no pink remains in the
    meat add the tortellini andreduce heat to medium.

    Put sausage and tortellini into a 4 - 5 quart crockpot
    set to low. Pour in the basilico sauce.

    Add broccoli, garlic and pepper to sauce and stir
    gently; let it heat/cook until warmed through.

    Sprinkle with Parmesan cheese just before serving.

    Serve with a nice side salad and garlic bread.

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