• pack command...

    From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to All on Tue Aug 19 16:15:00 2025
    What do I need to run to send to all of my uplinks and route if needed? I can't just run "fastecho pack" or "fastecho pack -p", my netmail to 30:30/99 can't be packed as it's email handled by irex's gateway. I'm running:

    fastecho pack via 1:340/400 via 1:229/426 via 2:221/0 via 10:103/0 via
    21:1/10 via 21:2/100 via 38:503/1 via 42:17/1 via 618:300/1 via 618:100/1 fastecho pack via 911:1423/0 via 1337:3/100 via 316:36/1
    fastecho pack -P via 1:340/400 via 1:229/426 via 2:221/0 via 10:103/0 via 21:1/10 via 21:2/100
    fastecho pack -P via 38:503/1 via 42:17/1 via 618:300/1 via 618:100/1 via 1337:3/100 via 316:36/1 via 911:1423/0

    Should I be using via, or does that send everything via the first address?
    Or should I not be using via? I've tried that as well. I also don't know if
    I need to run the pack and pack -p for each node.

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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Martin Kazmaier on Tue Aug 19 16:50:00 2025

    Sorry for replying to myself, my software doesn't give the option to change
    the to: field. Any way, my direct netmails for areafix and filefix are working. Routed mail is not. I've got the routing set properly in fastecho for 1:229/426 (1:* 2:* 3:* 4:*). Any ideas?

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  • From Nick Boel@1:154/700 to Martin Kazmaier on Wed Aug 20 17:20:06 2025
    Hey Martin!

    On Tue, Aug 19 2025 11:50:00 -0500, you wrote:

    Sorry for replying to myself, my software doesn't give the option to
    change the to: field. Any way, my direct netmails for areafix and
    filefix are working. Routed mail is not. I've got the routing set
    properly in fastecho for 1:229/426 (1:* 2:* 3:* 4:*). Any ideas?

    If you're trying to route all of your netmail to 1:229/426, then why do most of your "fastecho pack" commands start with 1:340/400?

    If you take a look at your fastecho logs, you should be able to see where these netmails are getting packed for. If you're sending them to Rob Starr, and he's not routing your netmail properly, that's probably your problem.

    I also haven't used fastecho in ages, but I don't remember anything about the 'via' option, so I probably never used it. If every link is setup correctly, and your routing table is correct, 'fastecho pack' should be all you need. Maybe even a 'scan' option afterwards to send it over to your mailer, unless the 'pack' command does both.

    If you're trying to route all Fidonet netmail through Nick Andre, then what you have above is correct. You shouldn't need anything else for Fidonet. Then, you will need a separate route setting for zone 10 where 10:* goes there, a separate route setting for zone 21 where 21:* goes there, and a separate one for every other network you're a part of.

    If what you are trying to do is route everything through Nick, but have a separate direct link to Rob, then you would need a separate route setting for 1:340/400 specifically where you only route 1:340/400.* to him, and it would have to be listed /before/ Nick's entry (as 1:* 2:* 3:* 4:* is the "catch all" that is used if and when any direct links are not used.

    Hope that makes it a bit easier to understand, and hope it helps.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Nick Boel on Wed Aug 20 20:06:00 2025

    * In a message originally to Martin Kazmaier, Nick Boel said:

    Hey Martin!

    On Tue, Aug 19 2025 11:50:00 -0500, you wrote:

    Sorry for replying to myself, my software doesn't give the option to change the to: field. Any way, my direct netmails for areafix and
    filefix are working. Routed mail is not. I've got the routing set properly in fastecho for 1:229/426 (1:* 2:* 3:* 4:*). Any ideas?

    If you're trying to route all of your netmail to 1:229/426, then why do
    most of your "fastecho pack" commands start with 1:340/400?


    Leftovers and fixed...

    If you take a look at your fastecho logs, you should be able to see where these netmails are getting packed for. If you're sending them to Rob
    Starr, and he's not routing your netmail properly, that's probably your problem.

    I also haven't used fastecho in ages, but I don't remember anything about the 'via' option, so I probably never used it. If every link is setup correctly, and your routing table is correct, 'fastecho pack' should be
    all you need. Maybe even a 'scan' option afterwards to send it over to
    your mailer, unless the 'pack' command does both.

    I can't pack netmail to 30:30/99, only everything else. That is for gated email. Scan goes before pack. I'm not sure if I need via or just the node number. A lot of netmail goes to things like 1:40/150 and is going via 1:229/426.

    If you're trying to route all Fidonet netmail through Nick Andre, then
    what you have above is correct. You shouldn't need anything else for Fidonet. Then, you will need a separate route setting for zone 10 where
    10:* goes there, a separate route setting for zone 21 where 21:* goes
    there, and a separate one for every other network you're a part of.

    If what you are trying to do is route everything through Nick, but have a separate direct link to Rob, then you would need a separate route setting for 1:340/400 specifically where you only route 1:340/400.* to him, and it would have to be listed /before/ Nick's entry (as 1:* 2:* 3:* 4:* is the "catch all" that is used if and when any direct links are not used.

    Hope that makes it a bit easier to understand, and hope it helps.

    Regards, Nick

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  • From Nick Boel@1:154/700 to Martin Kazmaier on Thu Aug 21 18:14:25 2025
    Hey Martin!

    On Wed, Aug 20 2025 15:06:00 -0500, you wrote:

    I can't pack netmail to 30:30/99, only everything else. That is for
    gated email. Scan goes before pack. I'm not sure if I need via or
    just the node number. A lot of netmail goes to things like 1:40/150
    and is going via 1:229/426.

    If you can't pack and scan for 30:30/99, then it probably shouldn't even be in your tosser's configuration. Is this something you're doing with IREX or some such?

    I'm fairly sure you should pack your netmail before you try to scan it out. Although, some tossers (like HPT for example), you can enable a configuration option "PACKNETMAILONSCAN" so you don't have to use both commands, but I don't know if FastEcho has that option or not.

    You don't need "via". This is what setting 1:229/426 (1:* 2:* 3:* 4:*) already does. Any node number in zone 1-4 will go to Nick Andre first. And if you want to add any direct links for Fidonet, they need to be added /before/ 1:229/426 in order to work properly.

    Most tossers read a routing table from top to bottom. So if Nick's entry is first, no other entries for 1:* 2:* 3:* 4:* will work properly.

    While it seems like you're ultimately confused as to how your tosser works, at this point, you should probably start over with Fidonet, and just have 1:229/426 as a link, and route 1:* 2:* 3:* 4:* through it.

    Once you've done that, and it works properly, then you can add direct links and/or other route links one at a time while making sure they work before moving on to the next. If you don't need direct links or other routes, then leave it alone with the one Fidonet link, and let Nick's system send any/all of your echomail and netmail where it needs to go. He kinds knows what he's doing. ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Nick Boel on Thu Aug 21 19:03:00 2025
    * In a message originally to Martin Kazmaier, Nick Boel said:

    Hey Martin!

    On Wed, Aug 20 2025 15:06:00 -0500, you wrote:

    I can't pack netmail to 30:30/99, only everything else. That is for
    gated email. Scan goes before pack. I'm not sure if I need via or
    just the node number. A lot of netmail goes to things like 1:40/150
    and is going via 1:229/426.

    If you can't pack and scan for 30:30/99, then it probably shouldn't even
    be in your tosser's configuration. Is this something you're doing with
    IREX or some such?

    It needs to be scanned, not packed.

    I'm fairly sure you should pack your netmail before you try to scan it
    out. Although, some tossers (like HPT for example), you can enable a configuration option "PACKNETMAILONSCAN" so you don't have to use both commands, but I don't know if FastEcho has that option or not.

    Scan scans the message areas for outbound messages, including netmail. Then pack sends the netmail.

    You don't need "via". This is what setting 1:229/426 (1:* 2:* 3:* 4:*) already does. Any node number in zone 1-4 will go to Nick Andre first. And if you want to add any direct links for Fidonet, they need to be added /before/ 1:229/426 in order to work properly.

    Ok, using via and not using via wasn't working, so I tried both.

    Most tossers read a routing table from top to bottom. So if Nick's entry
    is first, no other entries for 1:* 2:* 3:* 4:* will work properly.

    While it seems like you're ultimately confused as to how your tosser
    works, at this point, you should probably start over with Fidonet, and
    just have 1:229/426 as a link, and route 1:* 2:* 3:* 4:* through it.

    I'm trying that, but only 1:* is routing, not 2:* or 4:*.

    Once you've done that, and it works properly, then you can add direct
    links and/or other route links one at a time while making sure they work before moving on to the next. If you don't need direct links or other routes, then leave it alone with the one Fidonet link, and let Nick's
    system send any/all of your echomail and netmail where it needs to go. He kinds knows what he's doing. ;)

    To work around this, I've got fastecho scanning, then irex sending, then the process waiting to close (it gets put to the background, in which case pack runs immediately, so I run a tasklist | findstr rexw.exe and check the error level.), then packing all of the rest of the netmail. Seems to be working.

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  • From Nick Boel@1:154/700 to Martin Kazmaier on Fri Aug 22 17:06:11 2025
    Hey Martin!

    On Thu, Aug 21 2025 14:03:00 -0500, you wrote:

    If you can't pack and scan for 30:30/99, then it probably
    shouldn't even be in your tosser's configuration. Is this
    something you're doing with IREX or some such?

    It needs to be scanned, not packed.

    Ah, ok.
    I'm fairly sure you should pack your netmail before you try to
    scan it out. Although, some tossers (like HPT for example), you
    can enable a configuration option "PACKNETMAILONSCAN" so you don't
    have to use both commands, but I don't know if FastEcho has that
    option or not.

    Scan scans the message areas for outbound messages, including
    netmail. Then pack sends the netmail.

    "pack" only packs the netmail to be sent. Your mailer does the sending. Either way, I don't think it matters which order you run them, as long as you run them both before polling with your mailer.
    While it seems like you're ultimately confused as to how your
    tosser works, at this point, you should probably start over with
    Fidonet, and just have 1:229/426 as a link, and route 1:* 2:* 3:*
    4:* through it.

    I'm trying that, but only 1:* is routing, not 2:* or 4:*.

    What about 3:* ?

    Does FastEcho need separate entries for each route? Does it know what "1:* 2:* 3:* 4:*" means like most other tossers do? If it does understand this, I'm guessing you have something messed up somewhere else, or some other (stale or now unused) link that is interfering with what you're trying to do here.
    To work around this, I've got fastecho scanning, then irex sending,
    then the process waiting to close (it gets put to the background, in
    which case pack runs immediately, so I run a tasklist | findstr
    rexw.exe and check the error level.), then packing all of the rest
    of the netmail. Seems to be working.
    Seems like you're doing entirely too much, but whatever works for you I suppose.

    I would need screenshots of your link configurations and your routing table in order to pinpoint what the actual issue is. I don't think IREX is the issue in this case, and for once.

    Regards,
    Nick

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