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  • I wonder what is the native charset in telegram.. most likely utf-8.

    From Tommi Koivula@2:460/256 to All on Sat Jul 10 10:25:13 2021
    Hello All

    I wonder what is the native charset in telegram.. most likely utf-8. Tg->fido seems to use CP866 all the time. No problems with english 7bit only. But pound sign is not 7bit. (?????????)..
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    * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS from Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/256)
  • From Brother Rabbit@2:460/256 to Tommi Koivula on Sun Jul 11 12:04:06 2021
    Hi, Tommi!

    I wonder what is the native charset in telegram.. most likely utf-8. Tg->fido seems to use CP866 all the time. No problems with english 7bit only. But pound sign is not 7bit. (?????????)..

    Telegram uses utf-8. In Fido I use cp866. So tg_BBS use cp866 as default if no other defined in @CHRS from Fido.

    Have a nice carrot!
    Brother Rabbit.

    ... A good companion not only listens attentively, but pours the drink on time --- Use "%UserProfile %Tearline text" to customize tearline.
    * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS from Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/256)
  • From Brother Rabbit@2:460/256 to Tommi Koivula on Sun Jul 11 12:06:21 2021
    Hi, Tommi!

    I wonder what is the native charset in telegram.. most likely utf-8. Tg->fido seems to use CP866 all the time. No problems with english 7bit only. But pound sign is not 7bit. (?????????)..

    Is it what written by you?
    https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/60eab48c.jpg


    Have a nice carrot!
    Brother Rabbit.

    ... A good companion not only listens attentively, but pours the drink on time --- Use "%UserProfile %Tearline text" to customize tearline.
    * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS from Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/256)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Brother Rabbit on Mon Jul 12 17:55:39 2021

    Sunday July 11 2021 12:04, Brother Rabbit wrote to Tommi Koivula:

    Hi, Tommi!

    I wonder what is the native charset in telegram.. most likely utf-8.
    fido seems to use CP866 all the time. No problems with english 7bit
    only. But pound sign is not 7bit. (?????????)..

    Telegram uses utf-8. In Fido I use cp866. So tg_BBS use cp866 as default if no
    other defined in @CHRS from Fido.

    But the direction from TG to Fido.. If UTF-8 is the native charset there, why not use it at least in non-russian echos?

    'Tommi

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    * Origin: rbb.fidonet.fi (2:221/360)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Brother Rabbit on Mon Jul 12 17:57:52 2021

    Sunday July 11 2021 12:06, Brother Rabbit wrote to Tommi Koivula:

    Hi, Tommi!

    I wonder what is the native charset in telegram.. most likely utf-8.
    fido seems to use CP866 all the time. No problems with english 7bit
    only. But pound sign is not 7bit. (?????????)..

    Is it what written by you?
    https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/60eab48c.jpg

    Yes. Scandinavian characters (Ўфх) did not make it to fido.. :(

    'Tommi

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    * Origin: rbb.fidonet.fi (2:221/360)
  • From Nil A@2:5015/46 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Jul 12 20:33:42 2021
    Hello, Tommi!

    Monday July 12 2021 17:55, from Tommi Koivula -> Brother Rabbit:

    But the direction from TG to Fido.. If UTF-8 is the native charset
    there, why not use it at least in non-russian echos?

    The TG-Fido gate script could have performed some more sophisticated charset manipulation. For example, if the TG UTF-8 message only consists of Latin-1 characters then let it be such in @CHRS.

    Basically, you can iconv original message and test it against a list of charsets in some meaningful order to check which one convers into without an error. Do not assume the whole world is using either Latin-1 or Cyrillic, there are at least a bunch of Western European languages in between.

    Best Regards, Nil
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
    * Origin: -=NIL BBS=- (2:5015/46)
  • From Brother Rabbit@2:460/256 to Tommi Koivula on Thu Jul 15 19:09:13 2021
    Hi, Tommi!

    Sunday July 11 2021 12:06, Brother Rabbit wrote to Tommi Koivula:

    Hi, Tommi!

    I wonder what is the native charset in telegram.. most likely utf-8.
    fido seems to use CP866 all the time. No problems with english 7bit
    only. But pound sign is not 7bit. (?????????)..

    Is it what written by you?
    https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/60eab48c.jpg

    Yes. Scandinavian characters (Ўфх) did not make it to fido.. :(

    'Tommi

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    How does the value of @CHRS correspond to the body of the message in this case? Perhaps I should set up the correct decoding in my GoldEd?
    https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/60f05da8.jpg


    Have a nice carrot!
    Brother Rabbit.

    ... A good companion not only listens attentively, but pours the drink on time --- Use "%UserProfile %Tearline text" to customize tearline.
    * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS from Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/256)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Tommi Koivula on Thu Jul 15 19:02:16 2021
    Hi, Tommi!

    12 июл 21 17:55, Tommi Koivula -> Brother Rabbit:

    I wonder what is the native charset in telegram.. most likely utf-8.
    fido seems to use CP866 all the time. No problems with english
    7bit
    only. But pound sign is not 7bit. (?????????)..

    Telegram uses utf-8. In Fido I use cp866. So tg_BBS use cp866 as default
    if no other defined in @CHRS from Fido.

    But the direction from TG to Fido.. If UTF-8 is the native charset there, why not use it at least in non-russian echos?

    I think it is a wise decision to use UTP-8 only in those echo conferences where it is explicitly allowed. In other cases, I consider it necessary to use eight bit encodings for backward compatibility.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.
    --- Самец оленя может занимать до трёх парковочных мест одновременно.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)