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  • Message sent at 2020-12-14 16:32 CET/MEZ (Berlin time / UTC+1)

    From Gunter Sandner@2:310/31.2 to Alle on Mon Dec 14 16:31:00 2020
    Hello!

    Is the meessage time plus the TCUTC-kludge indicating the correct message time ?

    And which mailer is used to display the sender time of this message ?


    Ciao
    Gunter

    --- OpenXP 5.0.47
    * Origin: Test-Origin (2:310/31.2)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Gunter Sandner on Mon Dec 14 07:41:14 2020
    Re: Message sent at 2020-12-14 16:32 CET/MEZ (Berlin time / UTC+1)
    By: Gunter Sandner to Alle on Mon Dec 14 2020 04:31 pm

    Is the meessage time plus the TCUTC-kludge indicating the correct message time ?

    SBBS tells me this message was written 8 minutes ago so if that is true this message arrived here quickly.

    And which mailer is used to display the sender time of this message ?

    I am using my BBS to read and reply to this message.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    ... Computers run on faith, not electrons.
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757.2)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Gunter Sandner on Mon Dec 14 16:58:10 2020
    Hi Gunter,

    On 2020-12-14 16:31:00, you wrote to Alle:

    Is the meessage time plus the TCUTC-kludge indicating the correct
    message time ?

    The message time is the local time of the writer of the message. TZUTC is the offset to UTC time.

    And which mailer is used to display the sender time of this message ?

    Any mailer that is used by the receiver/reader of the message (area) ?

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Gunter Sandner@2:310/31.2 to Alan Ianson on Mon Dec 14 17:03:00 2020
    Hello Alan!

    And your message was sent 2020-12-14 07:41 local time, correct ?


    Ciao
    Gunter


    Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 wrote:
    Re: Message sent at 2020-12-14 16:32 CET/MEZ (Berlin time / UTC+1)
    By: Gunter Sandner to Alle on Mon Dec 14 2020 04:31 pm

    Is the meessage time plus the TCUTC-kludge indicating the correct
    message time ?

    SBBS tells me this message was written 8 minutes ago so if that is
    true this message arrived here quickly.

    And which mailer is used to display the sender time of this message
    ?

    I am using my BBS to read and reply to this message.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    ... Computers run on faith, not electrons.
    -+- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
    + Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757.2)


    --- OpenXP 5.0.47
    * Origin: Test-Origin (2:310/31.2)
  • From Gunter Sandner@2:310/31.2 to Wilfred van Velzen on Mon Dec 14 17:08:00 2020
    Hello Wilfred!

    Is the meessage time plus the TCUTC-kludge indicating the correct
    message time ?

    The message time is the local time of the writer of the message.
    TZUTC is the offset to UTC time.

    :-)

    I specifically meant my original message.
    Just want to test if my mailer processes TZUTC kludge correctly.

    And which mailer is used to display the sender time of this message
    ?

    Any mailer that is used by the receiver/reader of the message (area)
    ?

    :-)

    BTW: you live in Central Europe, according to you time zone, correct ?


    Ciao
    Gunter

    --- OpenXP 5.0.47
    * Origin: Test-Origin (2:310/31.2)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Gunter Sandner on Mon Dec 14 17:10:43 2020
    Hi Gunter,

    On 2020-12-14 17:08:00, you wrote to me:

    Is the meessage time plus the TCUTC-kludge indicating the correct
    message time ?

    The message time is the local time of the writer of the message.
    TZUTC is the offset to UTC time.

    :-)

    I specifically meant my original message.
    Just want to test if my mailer processes TZUTC kludge correctly.

    Your original message:

    Message time: 2020-12-14 16:31:00
    Arrival time: 2020-12-14 16:32:20

    So that seems to be the case.

    And which mailer is used to display the sender time of this message
    ?

    Any mailer that is used by the receiver/reader of the message (area)
    ?

    :-)

    BTW: you live in Central Europe, according to you time zone, correct ?

    Yes.

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Anna Christina Nass@2:240/5824.1 to Gunter Sandner on Mon Dec 14 17:11:00 2020
    Am 14.12.20 schrieb Gunter Sandner@2:310/31.2 in FIDOTEST:

    Hallo Gunter,

    Is the meessage time plus the TCUTC-kludge indicating the correct message time ?

    And which mailer is used to display the sender time of this message ?

    In OpenXP, the header of your message looks like this:

    EMP: /FIDO/FIDOTEST
    ABS: Gunter Sandner@2:310/31.2
    BET: Message sent at 2020-12-14 16:32 CET/MEZ (Berlin time / UTC+1)
    ROT: 2:240/5824!310/31 280/464 240/5832 5824
    MID: 2:310/31.2@fidonet eb6d5421
    EDA: 20201214153100W+1
    LEN: 244
    MAILER: OpenXP/5.0.47 (Win32) / OpenXP 5.0.47
    X_C:
    X-XP-NTP: 30
    F-TO: Alle
    X-XP-Charset: US-ASCII

    I hope this helps a little.

    Regards,
    Anna

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: acn (2:240/5824.1)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Gunter Sandner on Mon Dec 14 08:14:33 2020
    Re: Message sent at 2020-12-14 16:32 CET/MEZ (Berlin time / UTC+1)
    By: Gunter Sandner to Alan Ianson on Mon Dec 14 2020 05:03 pm

    And your message was sent 2020-12-14 07:41 local time, correct ?

    Yes, I am -0700 from UTC.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    ... Bug free, cheap, on time, works. Pick two.
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757.2)
  • From Gunter Sandner@2:310/31.2 to Anna Christina Nass on Mon Dec 14 17:46:00 2020
    Hallo Anna!

    ...
    I hope this helps a little.

    Thanks :-)
    I just explained OpenXP's behaviour in /de/comm/software/crosspoint


    Ciao
    Gunter

    --- OpenXP 5.0.47
    * Origin: Test-Origin (2:310/31.2)
  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to Gunter Sandner on Tue Dec 15 09:22:00 2020
    Hello Gunter!

    *** Monday 14.12.20 at 17:46, Gunter Sandner wrote to Anna Christina Nass:

    ...
    I hope this helps a little.

    Thanks :-)
    I just explained OpenXP's behaviour in /de/comm/software/crosspoint

    Yep, seen it and it would be really nice if somebody could be kind
    enough to translate your explanation into English, please, thanks :-)

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- OpenXP 5.0.47
    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)
  • From Gunter Sandner@2:310/31.2 to Martin Foster on Tue Dec 15 19:31:00 2020
    Hallo Martin!

    Yep, seen it and it would be really nice if somebody could be kind
    enough to translate your explanation into English, please, thanks :-)

    To keep a long story short: the "Datumscode" a.k.a. "EDA" field in OpenXP
    is in ZConnect format.

    Datumscode: 20201214153100W+1 (14.12.20, 16:31)

    The part before the "W+1" is always UTC so you can (hypothetically) sort messages by this field.

    The "W+1" is the difference of local time minus UTC, and the part in parentheses is the local time.


    Ciao
    Gunter

    --- OpenXP 5.0.47
    * Origin: Test-Origin (2:310/31.2)
  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to Gunter Sandner on Wed Dec 16 08:25:00 2020
    Hello Gunter!

    *** Tuesday 15.12.20 at 19:31, Gunter Sandner wrote to Martin Foster:

    Yep, seen it and it would be really nice if somebody could be kind
    enough to translate your explanation into English, please, thanks :-)

    To keep a long story short: the "Datumscode" a.k.a. "EDA" field in OpenXP is in ZConnect format.

    Datumscode: 20201214153100W+1 (14.12.20, 16:31)

    The part before the "W+1" is always UTC so you can (hypothetically) sort messages by this field.

    The "W+1" is the difference of local time minus UTC, and the part in parentheses is the local time.

    OK and thanks very much for that.

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- OpenXP 5.0.47
    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)