Is there any tool or script that moves all messages from a Hudson area to a JAM message base?

(I can do it manually with my editor, but I'd like to do it automatically.)

Carlos

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Hi! Carlos,

On 12 Sep 2021, Carlos Navarro said the following...

Is there any tool or script that moves all messages from a Hudson area
to a JAM message base?
(I can do it manually with my editor, but I'd like to do it automatically.)

I'm sure most of us might recommend exactly that method. I have used it many times. It's over & done in a jiffy.

Cheers,
Paul.
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Hi Carlos!

12 Sep 2021 09:14, from Carlos Navarro -> All:

Is there any tool or script that moves all messages from a Hudson area
to a JAM message base?
(I can do it manually with my editor, but I'd like to do it automatically.)

I do not know of such a tool.
When I migrated from Squish to JAM I used Golded to do the task.

CU, Ricsi

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Hi! Carlos,

On 12 Sep 2021, Carlos Navarro said the following...

(I can do it manually with my editor, but I'd like to do it automatically.)

I was haunted by your possible intentions, and had a double-think about what you want to do. There was a way I was moving incoming *.msg traffic to a JAM netmail area, which satified certain conditions only. I did this using
an old DOS package called NetMgr.

NetMgr is fairly simple to use. Have a look around. If you get stuck then I can provide you with an old exectable that's been patched for Y2K bugs.

BTW, I was doing the same thing with a package called RnTrack when I was
using FMail32/linux (because NetMgr/linux was broken). I was stubborn and wanted my JAM netmail area!! :)

Cheers,
Paul.
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12 Sep 2021 12:59, you wrote to me:

Is there any tool or script that moves all messages from a Hudson
area to a JAM message base? (I can do it manually with my editor,
but I'd like to do it automatically.)

I do not know of such a tool.
When I migrated from Squish to JAM I used Golded to do the task.

Thank you, I also use GoldED to move messages but I'd like to automate this.

Carlos

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12 Sep 2021 22:52, you wrote to me:

I was haunted by your possible intentions, and had a double-think
about what you want to do.

[...]

I'll explain. My tosser (Fmail) stores dupes and bad messages in Hudson areas. I'd like to move those messages to JAM areas (or to *.MSG, or whatever), to avoid issues if the HMB grows too much.

Thank you for your suggestions. I don't know if NetMgr, RnTrack or others can be used for this, but will check...

Carlos

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Hello Carlos,

I'll explain. My tosser (Fmail) stores dupes and bad messages in
Hudson areas. I'd like to move those messages to JAM areas (or to
*.MSG, or whatever), to avoid issues if the HMB grows too much.

Thank you for your suggestions. I don't know if NetMgr, RnTrack or
others can be used for this, but will check...

I haven't used NetMgr for years but I think it'll do this for you.

I would avoid any move options (or better, have a backup) in case you need to go back to step one for some reason.

Ttyl :-),
Al
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Hi! Carlos,

On 12 Sep 21 22:00, you wrote to me:

I'll explain. My tosser (Fmail) stores dupes and bad messages in
Hudson areas. I'd like to move those messages to JAM areas (or to
*.MSG, or whatever), to avoid issues if the HMB grows too much.

I know. I suffered FMail for three years. Now I play with Mystic (emphasis on 'play').

Ask Wilfred for recommendations. I had a script that did a "ftools maint -h -d -n -o -p" on demand (i.e. 'panic button' icon). It had to be used at least three times, otherwise the maint was scheduled with other like tasks... once a week.

Thank you for your suggestions. I don't know if NetMgr, RnTrack or
others can be used for this, but will check...

RnTrack is mentioned in Fidonews. Bon chance! (I'm exhausting my foreign language repertoire.)

Cheers,
Paul.

... "Too much of a good thing is wonderful", Mae West.
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12 Sep 2021 13:25, you wrote to me:

Thank you for your suggestions. I don't know if NetMgr, RnTrack
or others can be used for this, but will check...

I haven't used NetMgr for years but I think it'll do this for you.

Thank you, I'll check it.

I would avoid any move options (or better, have a backup) in case you
need to go back to step one for some reason.

Of course, always backup before experimenting. ;-)

Carlos

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13 Sep 2021 09:02, you wrote to me:

I'll explain. My tosser (Fmail) stores dupes and bad messages in
Hudson areas. I'd like to move those messages to JAM areas (or to
*.MSG, or whatever), to avoid issues if the HMB grows too much.

I know. I suffered FMail for three years. Now I play with Mystic (emphasis on 'play').

Suffered? :-o I suppose that was with some old version, or maybe if you had your echos in Hudson.

I've been using Fmail (latest version) for several months now (all echoareas in JAM) and it works very well, no issues.

RnTrack is mentioned in Fidonews.

Will take a look at it.

Bon chance! (I'm exhausting my foreign language repertoire.)

Close, but... that looks like French. :-) I'm a little further south. It should be "Buena suerte".

Gracias.

Carlos

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Hi! Carlos,

On 14 Sep 21 21:06, you wrote to Alan Ianson:

I would avoid any move options (or better, have a backup) in case
you need to go back to step one for some reason.

Of course, always backup before experimenting. ;-)

That's what virtual machines (VMs) are for: keep your main node running unaffected, while trying an idea based on the node in another VM window. It's the only way to fly. ;)

Cheers,
Paul.

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Hi! Carlos,

On 14 Sep 21 21:09, you wrote to me:

Suffered? :-o I suppose that was with some old version, or maybe if
you had your echos in Hudson.

My main node underwent a major crisis in August 2018. I had to move from a 20+ year old MS-DOS/Windows configuration to a Linux-based one. Fortunately, Wilfred was testing an early Linux FMail
solution. I chose FMail as I had tested an earlier version (1.22 back in early-90s, I think), so I was primed to use something familiar to my previous FastEcho/DOS. But. I found that FMail was still buried in mid-90s thinking, and soon got tired of it.

I've been using Fmail (latest version) for several months now (all echoareas in JAM) and it works very well, no issues.

Yes. It was the Hudson 'thing' that spoiled my fun. Hence the 'panic button' thing, whenever some newbie sysop dumped their messagebase on the network. Also activating newly-connected echo areas was a pain, in a Linux environment: no FConfig/linux. Both Wilfred and I had to use a Windows/32 somewhere to configure FMail and then copy the configuration to Linux. I think we were the only ones using the Linux version, so there wasn't any pressure to do something.

Don't get me wrong. Wilfred was a real champion.

RnTrack is mentioned in Fidonews.

Will take a look at it.

It's real simple. You're welcome to my configuration file if it might be useful, though you may not need it as RnTrack is simple.

Bon chance! (I'm exhausting my foreign language repertoire.)

Close, but... that looks like French. :-)

Yep. I studied _elementary_ French over 50 yeards ago.

I'm a little further south. It should be "Buena suerte".
Gracias.

Thank you! My apologies.

Cheers,
Paul.

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15 Sep 2021 08:14, you wrote to me:

[...]

Don't get me wrong. Wilfred was a real champion.

Ok. ;-)

RnTrack is mentioned in Fidonews.

Will take a look at it.

It's real simple. You're welcome to my configuration file if it might
be useful, though you may not need it as RnTrack is simple.

I'll keep it in mind, thank you.

I'm a little further south. It should be "Buena suerte".
Gracias.

Thank you! My apologies.

No problem!

Carlos

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Sunday September 12 2021 09:14, Carlos Navarro wrote to All:

Is there any tool or script that moves all messages from a Hudson area to a JAM message base?

GEcho can do it, but you need GEcho. :)

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GEcho SETUP 1.20/Pro ¨ Professional version
Copyright (C) 1991-1995 Gerard J. van der Land. All rights reserved.

Usage:

GSETUP [command] [switch]

Commands:

Index Create new database index files
Pack Pack and [-Clean] area and node database
Areas Create AREAS.BBS style [file]
Echos Create echo list <file>
Tags Create tag list <file>
Keys Enter registration keys
Convert Convert areas from Hudson or MSG to JAM format
============================================== <-!!

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'Tommi

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16 Oct 2021 19:43, you wrote to me:

Is there any tool or script that moves all messages from a Hudson
area to a JAM message base?

GEcho can do it, but you need GEcho. :)

Noted. Thank you, Tommi.

Carlos

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