Re: RIP
By: LEE GREEN to ALL on Sun Feb 02 2025 03:23 pm

The longtime sysop of Prison Board BBS out of Mesquite,TX has passed away

Ruben Figueroa, 73yrs
Sometimes posted as Zazz in Fidonet
RIP

Wow, shame to hear. I called Prison Board Wildcat! a lot when I started getting back into BBSing.

RIP.

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Re: RIP
By: LEE GREEN to ALL on Sun Feb 02 2025 03:23 pm

The longtime sysop of Prison Board BBS out of Mesquite,TX has passed away

Ruben Figueroa, 73yrs
Sometimes posted as Zazz in Fidonet
RIP

RIP Ruben. :-(
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On |1503 Feb 2025|08, |15Angel Ripoll |08said the following...

02 Feb 25 15:23, LEE GREEN dijo a ALL:

The longtime sysop of Prison Board BBS out of Mesquite,TX has passed

Ruben Figueroa, 73yrs
Sometimes posted as Zazz in Fidonet
RIP

Damn! Sorry to hear this. Ruben was one of three (myself included) sysops who still ran Spitfire! BBS up until its kill switch brought the fun to an end on Jan 1 2025. RIP my friend!

.\\ichael (a.k.a. StiZzed)
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The longtime sysop of Prison Board BBS out of Mesquite,TX has passed away

Ruben Figueroa, 73yrs

Fidonet sysop? ??

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On 03 Feb 2025, Michael Batts said the following...

Damn! Sorry to hear this. Ruben was one of three (myself included) sysops who still ran Spitfire! BBS up until its kill switch brought the fun to an end on Jan 1 2025. RIP my friend!

kill switch?

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Hello Ward!

04 Feb 25 17:46, you wrote to LEE GREEN:

The longtime sysop of Prison Board BBS out of Mesquite,TX has
passed away

Ruben Figueroa, 73yrs

Fidonet sysop? ??

Ruben was a member and the Host for Net 124.

Andrew

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On |1504 Feb 2025|08, |15Alexander Grotewohl |08said the following...

kill switch?

Yeah, software stopped working on 1 Jan 2025

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The longtime sysop of Prison Board BBS out of Mesquite,TX has passed away

Ruben Figueroa, 73yrs

Fidonet sysop? ??

Yes he ran like 9 different Prison Board BBS software bbs's all with Fidonet, sometimes he posted as ZaZZ in fact you wined when he used his handle as opposed to using Ruben Figueroa.

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Ruben Figueroa, 73yrs

Fidonet sysop? ??

Yes he ran like 9 different Prison Board BBS software bbs's all with Fidonet,
sometimes he posted as ZaZZ in fact you wined when he used his handle as opposed to using Ruben Figueroa.

The name sounded familiar. So I went searching for him in the nodelist lookup facility and for whatever reason (probably my own doing) I failed to locate his name. hence the question.

Today it works and I see several entries. Mesquite TX.

I never wined about his handle.

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Ruben Figueroa, 73yrs

Fidonet sysop? ??

Yes he ran like 9 different Prison Board BBS software bbs's all with ->LG> Fidonet,
sometimes he posted as ZaZZ in fact you wined when he used his handle as ->LG> opposed to using Ruben Figueroa.

The name sounded familiar. So I went searching for him in the nodelist lookup ->facility and for whatever reason (probably my own doing) I failed to locate ->his
name. hence the question.

Today it works and I see several entries. Mesquite TX.

I never wined about his handle.

Why would I say it if it wasn't true here's the message to Zazz from Ward Dossche 10/11/24

... 24 hours in a day and 24 beers in a case. Hmmmm...

Is it really so difficult to use your real name?

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LEE GREEN wrote to Ward Dossche <=-

The name sounded familiar. So I went searching for him in the nodelist lookup
facility and for whatever reason (probably my own doing) I failed to locate
his
name. hence the question.

Today it works and I see several entries. Mesquite TX.

I never wined about his handle.

Why would I say it if it wasn't true here's the message to Zazz from
Ward Dossche 10/11/24

Is it really so difficult to use your real name?

and he replied:
No, its not..Ruben Figueroa

Oh, man.

Ward hates it when facts get in the way of what he says he said (or
didn't say).

BAM!!! ;-)




... She kept saying I didn't listen to her, or something like that.
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Lee,

sometimes he posted as ZaZZ in fact you wined when he used his
handle as opposed to using Ruben Figueroa.

...

I never wined about his handle.

...

Why would I say it if it wasn't true here's the message to Zazz from Ward Dossche 10/11/24

...

That's "whining" ... not "wining"... I hope you understand the difference?

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Dan,

Ward hates it when facts get in the way of what he says he said (or
didn't say).

You must be American ... look op "whining" as opposed to "wining" ...

BAM!!! ;-)

Really ... good thing you're not a fish because you wouldn't live long:

* Baited in the morning
* Caught at noon
* Eaten by evening..

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Ward Dossche wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Ward hates it when facts get in the way of what he says he said (or
didn't say).

You must be American ... look op "whining" as opposed to "wining" ...

You're a very petty little man.




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Lee,

sometimes he posted as ZaZZ in fact you wined when he used his ->LG> ->LG> handle as opposed to using Ruben Figueroa.

...

I never wined about his handle.

...

Why would I say it if it wasn't true here's the message to Zazz from Ward ->LG> Dossche 10/11/24

...

That's "whining" ... not "wining"... I hope you understand the difference?

Sorry no spellchecker on this program, but you know what I meant.






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LEE GREEN wrote to Ward Dossche <=-

sometimes he posted as ZaZZ in fact you wined when he used his
handle as opposed to using Ruben Figueroa.

...

I never wined about his handle.

...

Why would I say it if it wasn't true here's the message to Zazz from Ward
Dossche 10/11/24

...

That's "whining" ... not "wining"... I hope you understand the difference?

Sorry no spellchecker on this program, but you know what I meant.

Yes, he knows perfectly well what you meant, and you were 100% correct.

Ward (and his swedish-meatball buddy) seem to take pride in being petty,
and playing word games with people. Shady and deceitful is what it is.
They think it's hilarious when others make spelling/grammar mistakes,
and try to make themselves look wise and important from it.

Best to either ignore them, or laugh at their pitiful and petty
existance. They have no other form of entertainment, apparently.




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Lee,

That's "whining" ... not "wining"... I hope you understand the difference?

Sorry no spellchecker on this program, but you know what I meant.

I know what you meant, I also know what you wrote and a spell checker would not have made a difference ... "wining" would not have been flagged.

Aw c'mon, Lee, this was just a humorous interjection ... not the end of the world.

Just enjoy the word play ... There are times I also goof.

Enjoy the week-end,

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Ward Dossche wrote to LEE GREEN <=-

That's "whining" ... not "wining"... I hope you understand the difference?

Sorry no spellchecker on this program, but you know what I meant.

I know what you meant, I also know what you wrote and a spell checker would not have made a difference ... "wining" would not have been
flagged.

Aw c'mon, Lee, this was just a humorous interjection ... not the end of the world.

Only you and the Swedish meat-head find that humorous.

Just enjoy the word play ...

It wasn't "word play". It was you being petty and mean, for no reason
other than you seem to enjoy doing that.



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On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 13:11:29 +0200
"Ward Dossche" (2:292/854) <Ward.Dossche@f854.n292.z2.fidonet> wrote:

Dan,

Ward hates it when facts get in the way of what he says he said
(or didn't say).

You must be American ... look op "whining" as opposed to "wining" ...

BAM!!! ;-)

Really ... good thing you're not a fish because you wouldn't live
long:
* Baited in the morning
* Caught at noon
* Eaten by evening..

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Let the man lie in peace for fucks sake.
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On Mon, 26 May 2025 13:23:32 +0200
"Ward Dossche" (2:292/854) <Ward.Dossche@f854.n292.z2.fidonet> wrote:

Carol,

Fidonet sysop? ??

Yes, and a really cool guy. (yes, old message).

In the case of old messages, perhaps check if someone already
provided an answer because otherwise this is pretty useless..
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Or you could just mind your business and move on rather than ragging on
anyone and everyone that posts anything to FN_SYSOP.

1. She already said it was an old message.
2. She wanted to say Ruben was a great guy.

Do you have a problem with that?
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Nigel Reed -> All skrev 2025-05-28 12:29:

Or you could just mind your business and move on rather than ragging on anyone and everyone that posts anything to FN_SYSOP.

And you could use a proper FTN editor, rather than a hopelessly outdated Usenet ditto that addresses a comment to All rather than to the actual writer.


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Re: RIP
By: Bj”rn Felten to Nigel Reed on Wed May 28 2025 14:24:30

And you could use a proper FTN editor, rather than a hopelessly outdated Usenet ditto that addresses a comment to All rather than to the actual writer.

Ohhh touchy.
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Hello Nigel!

Wednesday May 28 2025 05:29, you wrote to All:

Or you could just mind your business and move on rather than ragging
on anyone and everyone that posts anything to FN_SYSOP.

Ward has ruled Zone 2 like a dictator, abusing his authority from the moment he was elected. After 31 years as Z2C, he greets any challenge with outright anger. Dictators are bad people.

Alex

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On 28 May 25 11:11:55, Alex Galiyev said the following to Nigel Reed:

Ward has ruled Zone 2 like a dictator, abusing his authority from the momen he was elected. After 31 years as Z2C, he greets any challenge with outrigh anger. Dictators are bad people.

But the moment Ward's system stops producing your nodelist you would be quick to call him incompetent, right?

Nick

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On 28 May 25 10:10:38, Nigel Reed said the following to Bj”Rn Felten:

And you could use a proper FTN editor, rather than a hopelessly outdated Usenet ditto that addresses a comment to All rather than to the actual writer.

Ohhh touchy.

You forgot to add the sitcom canned laughter for him...

Nick

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Re: RIP
By: Alex Galiyev to Nigel Reed on Wed May 28 2025 11:11:55

Ward has ruled Zone 2 like a dictator, abusing his authority from the moment he was elected. After 31 years as Z2C, he greets any challenge with outright anger. Dictators are bad people.

I dunno about that, I've only been around here for 6-7 years or so, but I do know that I've never seen so much negativity poured onto Fidonet by one person.

OK...maybe MRO...maybe they're brothers or something. :)
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On 28 May 25 14:48:11, Nigel Reed said the following to Alex Galiyev:

OK...maybe MRO...maybe they're brothers or something. :)

Blllllegggggghhhh I thought Fido was "Mro free" until you mentioned him!

Nick

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Hello Atreyu!

Wednesday May 28 2025 12:55, you wrote to me:

But the moment Ward's system stops producing your nodelist you would
be quick to call him incompetent, right?

I can live without Zone 2 nodelists. =)

Alex

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Re: RIP
By: Alex Galiyev to Atreyu on Wed May 28 2025 17:04:55

I can live without Zone 2 nodelists. =)

I can do without any nodelists, personally, I relay everything through my hub, so he's the one relying on nodelists :)
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Alex,

Or you could just mind your business and move on rather than ragging AG>NR> on anyone and everyone that posts anything to FN_SYSOP.

Ward has ruled Zone 2 like a dictator, abusing his authority from the moment he was elected. After 31 years as Z2C, he greets any challenge
with outright anger. Dictators are bad people.

And you are perfectly capable of documenting that dictatorship?

Also the 2 cases where I was taken to court over Fido matters and won? You are aware how Fidonet came together to crowd-fund my legal bills? Even Janis Kracht?

Let me get rid of this sillusion of yours ... there is 'no' power in Fidonet. Only resposabilities.

Take care,

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On 5/28/25 15:24, Björn Felten wrote:

a hopelessly outdated Usenet

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Hello Ward!

Thursday May 29 2025 12:56, you wrote to me:

And you are perfectly capable of documenting that dictatorship?

Yes, 31 years in power, while making your own rules.

Also the 2 cases where I was taken to court over Fido matters and won?
You are aware how Fidonet came together to crowd-fund my legal bills?
Even Janis Kracht?

How can this justify your dictatorship? Unrelated to this conversation.

Let me get rid of this sillusion of yours ... there is 'no' power in Fidonet. Only resposabilities.

Correct. But when you fail to fulfill your responsibilities under the Fidonet policy, what is that called?

Should I remind you how you refused to respond to the illegal excommunication appeal back in the 90s and simply let things slide? Do you know that at least a dozen users - left Fidonet because of your negligence related to this case?

Alex

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Hello Ward!

Thursday May 29 2025 12:56, you wrote to me:

Also the 2 cases where I was taken to court over Fido matters and won?
You are aware how Fidonet came together to crowd-fund my legal bills?

Actually, Ward - hold on. I wasn't familiar with the HH Belgium case, and there isn't much information online, but it closely mirrors my situation with Alex Barinov (N5020C) and my excommunication from Z2, where you refused my appeal and sided with the regional authority in Russia.

Although Pennsylvania's statute of limitations has likely expired, judges can still proceed in certain circumstances.

Would you be interested in filing another lawsuit? This time it would be in the United States - you'd need to fly here, and legal fees could exceed several thousand dollars.

Also, since this would be your second suit on the same matter, the judges may take a different view.

I have the resources to hire the best attorney for this case. Shall we pursue this route?

Alex

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Alex Galiyev wrote to Ward Dossche <=-

Let me get rid of this sillusion of yours ... there is 'no' power in Fidonet. Only resposabilities.

Correct. But when you fail to fulfill your responsibilities under the Fidonet policy, what is that called?

I'd call it "dereliction of duty".

Should I remind you how you refused to respond to the illegal excommunication appeal back in the 90s and simply let things slide? Do
you know that at least a dozen users - left Fidonet because of your negligence related to this case?

Hmmm, interesting. While we're speaking of negligence, perhaps Ward
would care to explain the below entry in *HIS* nodelist:

Zone,2,Eur_(147),B,Ward_Dossche,-Unpublished-,300,CM,MO,INA:many-glacier.dyndns.org,IBN,IFT,PING,IMI:fido@dossche.org,U,ENC
,2,Fidonews_Editor,Sweden,Bjorn_Felten,46-31-960447,33600,CM,XA,V34,INA:eljaco.se,IBN:24555
,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300

The Bjorn entry apparently isn't really "CM", as it takes 8-12 hours of continuous trying to get that address to answer and accept a netmail.
Bjorn calls that a "busy signal". Laughable if it wasn't so pitiful.

The /29 entry is just blatantly wrong. No connection information
whatsoever. Not a valid nodelist entry, and Ward has been told about it repeatedly, and yet does nothing.

Why is that, Ward?



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Hello Dan!

Thursday May 29 2025 21:29, you wrote to me:

the Fidonet policy, what is that called?

I'd call it "dereliction of duty".

That sounds about right. He should have been re-elected years ago.

Is he really an IC now? Unbelievable.

,1000,International_Coordinator,Belgium,Ward_Dossche,-Unpublished-,300,CM,MO,INA:many-glacier.dyndns.org,IBN,IFT,IMI:fido@dossche.org,PI NG,U,ENC

Alex

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Alex,

Should I remind you how you refused to respond to the illegal excommunication appeal back in the 90s and simply let things slide? Do
you know that at least a dozen users - left Fidonet because of your negligence related to this case?

You must excuse me, but your name and an alleged case you refer to, doesn't ring a bell. I'm sorry.

According to the Fidonet-archives you weren't even listed in the nodelist until August 29 2015 as far as I can see.

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Alex,

Actually, Ward - hold on. I wasn't familiar with the HH Belgium case, and there isn't much information online, but it closely mirrors my situation with Alex Barinov (N5020C) and my excommunication from Z2, where you refused my appeal and sided with the regional authority in Russia.

It isn't that you weren't familiar with the HH-case, because you still aren't.

One of the things I learned quickly enough in Fidonet is that it is totally useless to deal with formal complaint appeal-case where the documentation presented is something like "You said you did ..." ... "No, I never said that. but you on the other hand claimed that ..." ... "Oh yes, you said that and I never made that claim" followed by 25 pages of Russian-language transcripts...

As I said in the other message:
1) I don't remember any case that involved your name
2) Fidonet history tracks do not list you in the nodelist in the 1990-ies

... and you needed some 30 years to speak out?

Would you be interested in filing another lawsuit? This time it would be
in the United States - you'd need to fly here, and legal fees could
exceed several thousand dollars.

Had you known what you were talking about, you wouldn't be entertaining us with this gibberish.

Enjoy the week-end,

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Alex,

I'd call it "dereliction of duty".

That sounds about right. He should have been re-elected years ago.

Actually once elected and twice re-elected. So that satisfies your request.

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Hello Ward!

Friday May 30 2025 22:08, you wrote to me:

totally useless to deal with formal complaint appeal-case where the

I know - you'd simply let people go without figuring out what happened. That's Ward's style of dealing with problems: just ignore them. Do you think that's a strong leadership position?

2) Fidonet history tracks do not list you in the nodelist in the
1990-ies

I just Googled "Fidonet nodelist history," clicked the first link (https://nodehist.fidonet.org.ua), and found:
"2:5020/395 Alex Galiev from Moscow 1999.11.19 - 2000.08.18"
Different spelling of my last name, but still.

This was a very high-profile case in Z2 N5020 back then. You simply ignored my messages.

:and you needed some 30 years to speak out?

No. I brought it up multiple times. In our last fight, Janis pretty much told Barinov to go f**k himself and denied his requests to delist me in Z1, saying: "We don't do things like this here."

R50 leaders are tyrants. They make their own rules and delist people just because someone said something.

What I expected from you was to be a middleman in this case - and you simply vanished. Don't you think every excommunication should be reviewed SERIOUSLY with the most attention, especially by Z2C?

This is why I've remembered your name negatively for the past 25 years. Your actions or rather "lack of actions" resulted in my excommunication from Z2, which really pissed me off.

Do you understand that you were at fault?

A simple apology will be enough.

Alex

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Hello Ward!

Friday May 30 2025 22:12, you wrote to me:

That sounds about right. He should have been re-elected years ago.

Actually once elected and twice re-elected. So that satisfies your request.

With leaders like you, Fidonet is in the worst possible shape right now. I remember what it was in the 90s, and I know what it is now. You're one of causes of Fidonet's degradation.

"Preserve / Protect / Conserve" - automatically leads to degradation.

How about "Innovate / Build / Advance"?

List the top 5 things you have done to improve Fidonet:
- ...
- ...

Alex

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On 02 Jun 25 22:16:55, Daniel Path said the following to Alex Galiyev:

why not check your Z1C mate who makes fun of all the nodelist flags on othernets and ruining the fidonet nodelist with his friends... just because because its funny to troll the "nodelist police"+Ward... i think its

You left out the part where it was two effeminate Dutch twats who began to troll me from nowhere "just because" I refused to take their marching orders.

Another absolute useless twat chimed in with his own software to report unreachable domains with snide little 'Coordinators do your job' remarks as
if I just got my node number yesterday.

Garbage in garbage out, mate...

Nick

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Hello Ward!

Monday June 02 2025 22:33, you wrote to me:

You want new exciting things to be produced?
Write them yourself, distribute them, see if people like it in which

Yes, I will write my own software. Thank you for the advice. My question was: what have you done - like asking the public to help to develop a software to improve something? But getting an answer from you is as hard as improvising. Forget about it. Ward doesn't change.

We're not going to have a war imported here ... it happened previously

Please confirm that this photo of you is not a deepfake and that you are wearing a hat with a Ukrainian shield.

https://traditio.wiki/files/f/fd/Ward_Dossche.jpg
Original page: https://traditio.wiki/%D0%92%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B4

Alex

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Re: RIP
By: Alex Galiyev to Daniel Path on Mon Jun 02 2025 02:17 pm

Howdy,

not everyone is a software developer. you can develop anything for

I agree, but all it takes is an effort to find a development team. No one has ever inquired about it, this is how the degradation started.

If there are a group of developers who want to advance/improve do things better, then I'm in.


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Alex,

My question
was: what have you done - like asking the public to help to develop a software to improve something? But getting an answer from you is as hard
as improvising. Forget about it. Ward doesn't change.

It is not in my job-description to lead the way into software-development. Really, read in P4 what it says.

Any development is done by a person who sees the need and/or the opportunity and takes it from there. There are examples enough.

You make the same error as almost all of the old-ones who left the network eons ago and then return with a 1990-ies mindset in a 2025-reality.

I'm not in here for the glory or the power, you probably have no idea how insignificant Fidonet is on the world level. True ... some people have basked in power, but that is only imagined power. A ZC is mainly powerless. There is no way of dispensing wisdom like the orange-one is doing with his presidential decrees.

Please confirm that this photo of you is not a deepfake and that you are wearing a hat with a Ukrainian shield.

https://traditio.wiki/files/f/fd/Ward_Dossche.jpg
Original page: https://traditio.wiki/%D0%92%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B4

Very original even.

In the framework of the UN's Agenda-21 I was at Svalbard (Spitsbergen) and one day from Longyearbyen we went to Barentzburg with an icebreaker. Barentzburg being a Russian coalmining settlement on Svalbard which during summer is often visited by cruise ships, we went there in winter just after the polar night ended. There were some souvenir outlets which opened just for the few of us there and I bought that fur hat with the insignia of Ukrainian air defenses. That was 1997 ... 28 years ago. Dirt cheap ...

Coming from the very modern Norwegian settlement of Longyearbyen with all modern amenities and getting to a place where there was 1 public phone and every of the coaling workers got a monthly quotum on a mechanical phone card to call home for 15 minutes ... per month ... was a mind boggling realisation how well we have it in the west...

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Hello deon!

Tuesday June 03 2025 19:33, you wrote to me:

If there are a group of developers who want to advance/improve do
things better, then I'm in.

Thanks man, I will keep you in mind.

Alex

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Hello Ward!

Tuesday June 03 2025 13:12, you wrote to me:

[ ... skipped bunch of excuses for not making improvements ... ]

bought that fur hat with the insignia of Ukrainian air defenses. That
was 1997 ... 28 years ago. Dirt cheap ...

Very interesting story, do you still have this shield? =)

was a mind boggling realisation how well we have it in the west...

Indeed. Russians never cared about their own people.

Alex

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Alex,

Very interesting story, do you still have this shield? =)

Yes. After the death of my wife things got discarded but thatone I kept.

And suddenly that hat and the shield have meaning in today's world.

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Hello Ward!

Tuesday June 03 2025 21:26, you wrote to me:

And suddenly that hat and the shield have meaning in today's world.

And it means a lot to me too. Since you didn't throw it away, means that you don't support Russians.

I still don't understand why you didn't exclude R50 from Fidonet, where 95% of the people are Nazis and supporting the war.

Russian people are born and raised as criminals - 95% of them, at least. I have every right to say this because I'm a born and raised Russian from Moscow.

Being neutral in politics leads to wars and uncertainty.

I wish I could have a drink with you to tell you what happened with my excommunication case. You would most likely find similarities with the Ukrainian war.

Alex

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Alex,

And it means a lot to me too. Since you didn't throw it away, means that you don't support Russians.

Actually, it just is very warm in winter ... not a political statement.

I still don't understand why you didn't exclude R50 from Fidonet, where
95% of the people are Nazis and supporting the war.

Fidonet is about technology and making it work nomatter what ...

Shall we kick the USA because some don't like Trump? Or Canada because there are french speaking people there?

I wish I could have a drink with you to tell you what happened with my excommunication case. You would most likely find similarities with the Ukrainian war.

I think it would be a reaon NOT to meet up with you because that's an event like 30 years back in history, that's way more than half of Fidonet's life-span.

Your case simply is irrelevant. Live with it. If your appeal didn't make it that's not the fault of the person ruling on it, rather perhaps there just was no merit in it and you were discussing penis-lengths or you just argued your case way too weak ... I have no recollection of it ...

A 30 year life-span ... aw mah Gawd ... I know of people who were born, lived their life and died withing 30 years and you're stuck up on somethng as silly as a Fidonet complaint of 30 years ago?

Go get a life please ...

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Hello Carol,
It's has been more than minute, since we spoke last.
Hoping the best for you with your upcoming surgeries.
Take Care,
Gregory

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We're not going to have a war imported here ... it happened previously
and I'd appreciate it not to happen anymore. We are sysops united by a hobby.

Well spoken and mighty fine.
I agree & AMEN..

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Hello Ward!

Wednesday June 04 2025 12:42, you wrote to me:

Shall we kick the USA because some don't like Trump? Or Canada because there are french speaking people there?

Trump hasn't invaded any countries (yet), and the U.S. wasn't labeled a state sponsor of terrorism - unlike Russia by the EU.

Go get a life please ...

My life is great, and I will not live it in ignorance like you.

Alex

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Hello Ward!

Wednesday June 04 2025 12:42, you wrote to me:

you were discussing penis-lengths

Ward, keep your pedo fantasies to yourself - no one wants to hear this sh1t, pervert. =)

Alex

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Alex Galiyev wrote to Ward Dossche <=-

you were discussing penis-lengths

Ward, keep your pedo fantasies to yourself - no one wants to hear this sh1t, pervert. =)

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