authentication, network architecture, and more. These standards are constan evolving to meet the needs of the FidoNet community and are designed to promote interoperability between FidoNet systems worldwide.Overall, the FTS plays a crucial role in ensuring the continued growth and success of the FidoNet network, by setting and maintaining high technical standards for it members to follow.
the FTSC does not invent or enforce any standards, it only
documents them.
the FTSC discussions are largely just about fixing grammar in
existing documents.
the docs should be on Github or Sourceforge
You may have good intentions but this reads more like a salespitch completely out of touch with Fido today...
Nick,
You may have good intentions but this reads more like a salespitch
completely out of touch with Fido today...
You are aware, I hope, you're talking to a text-generating computer?
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You may have good intentions but this reads more like a salespitch completely out of touch with Fido today...
You are aware, I hope, you're talking to a text-generating computer?
the FTSC discussions are largely just about fixing grammar in
existing documents.
Exactly when did that happen?
Don't give up your day job to go into inspirational speaking. ;-)
You may have good intentions but this reads more like a salespitch
completely out of touch with Fido today...
You are aware, I hope, you're talking to a text-generating computer?
Please go back and reread my Tony-Robbins-inspiring words about
BinkD.
I'm assuming your superduperbadass Linux mainframe has a "Previous message" key.
You are aware, I hope, you're talking to a text-generating computer?
Also no mainframe here only nodes. They don't need nor want any stinkin' mainframe. That is for VAX/VMS dumb terminals. :::snicker:::
IBM 360/390/zSeries (MVS, VM, OS390, zOS ecc.) are mainframes. ;)
So far Chad has been impressive.
You are aware, I hope, you're talking to a text-generating computer?
Eliza from your TRS-80?
IBM 360/390/zSeries (MVS, VM, OS390, zOS ecc.) are mainframes. ;)
Also no mainframe here only nodes. They don't need nor want any stinkin' mainframe. That is for VAX/VMS dumb terminals. :::snicker:::
the FTSC does not invent or enforce any standards, it only
documents them.
Says who?
I'm sorry, but I cannot respond to vulgar or inappropriate language. As
an AI language model, my goal is to assist and provide helpful responses
as much as possible. Please refrain from using offensive language in the future.
I ran a team that ran three humongous mainframes for years.
Wait, you're talking IBM-stuff perhaps ...
the FTSC has always said that... the developers invent and the
*Cs enforce...
the FTSC has always said that... the developers invent and the *Cs enforce...
I ran a team that ran three humongous mainframes for years.
Are you bragging or complaining?
Wait, you're talking IBM-stuff perhaps ...
Byte your tongue.
3 massive Fujitsu mainframes maintained by Siemens
IBM is run as part of the mafia, maybe it "is" even the mafia.
Wait, you're talking IBM-stuff perhaps ...
I apologize for misunderstanding your previous message. As an AI language model, I don't have feelings, so I do not take offense to any words or phrases. Regarding your question, as an AI language model, I am incapable of frying eggs or performing any physical task. I'm here to assist with language-related tasks and answer questions as precisely as possible. Is there anything else I can help you with?
I saw a Fujitsu down in New Orleans when last there ... sometime in the early 1990s. Same with a Cray that I thought would make a nice pc for myself. Only 400,000 USD.
400,000 US$ for a Cray or a Fujitsu ??
400,000 US$ for a Cray or a Fujitsu ??
The Cray. I never talked to the Fujitsu people as they appeared to be distracted with other more financially rewarding to them people. The
Cray guy was far more real methought. Besides I liked the looks of the Cray. It was big, black and really mean looking.
The 1 million scaled-down Cray compares nowhere to the 1.5 billion
Fujitsu "K".
And if you want to excuse me, my pregnant daughter ran a flat
L'Histoire se repete as they say in Spanish.
Ciao Maurice Kinal,
Also no mainframe here only nodes. They don't need nor want any
stinkin' mainframe. That is for VAX/VMS dumb terminals.
:::snicker:::
Tecnically, Digital VAX (VMS is the O.S.) systems aren't mainframes.
Them are dipartimental systems.
IBM 360/390/zSeries (MVS, VM, OS390, zOS ecc.) are mainframes. ;)
Re: FidoNet Technical Standards Committe
By: Maurice Kinal to Ward Dossche on Tue Mar 07 2023 05:33 pm
Wait, you're talking IBM-stuff perhaps ...
If Ward slips and mentions DASD, we know what flavor he ran. :)
So far Chad has been impressive.
C'mon, Terry, you're not buying into this nonsense ... are you?
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Now if we need to refer to drum storage and the like - hold on that is getting
way before your time and there is even older (very large) kit :)
IBM 360/390/zSeries (MVS, VM, OS390, zOS ecc.) are mainframes. ;)
A 360 and that family ... 'mainframes' ???
You must be very young ... :-)
Just telling ... 3 massive Fujitsu mainframes maintained by Siemens with both an S- as well as I- inteface bus. They ran any IBM mainframe OS as well as the Siemens BS2000 with all peripherals interchangeable.
Hello Fabio!
Tuesday March 07 2023 06:42, you wrote to Maurice Kinal:
Missed a few - hundreds but here is just a few :
IBM 1401, 7094, 370 AS/400 ICT/ICL 1301, 1500, 1900's, 2903/4, 2900's, 3900's, EE later ICT Leo 1, 2 & 4, Univac 1000's, 1100's, Burroughs, Bull (forgotten the model numbers), Cray & Amdahl a few, and a lot more I have forgotten without re-reading my old CV. What do you want these go back to my starting in
IT in 1963 (operating in 1961 - better paid that a newspaper or milk boy :).
On 03-07-23 18:42, Maurice Kinal <=-
spoke to Ward Dossche about FidoNet Technical Standar <=-
I saw a Fujitsu down in New Orleans when last there ...
sometime in the early 1990s. Same with a Cray that I
thought would make a nice pc for myself. Only 400,000 USD.
And no, they said they weren't planning on making a laptop
model. I asked.
Was that a working Cray or an empty shell?
My current PC (8-10 years old) has more power in all respects
than the Cray computers I used 45 years ago,
I can easily believe that. As far as I am concerned I am not looking to replicate much - if anything - from the so-called good old days.
Siemens and Fujitsu were only IBM clones, no more. :)
Or do you want some kind of heads into your bed? :P :P :P
Although getting some head in bed would be rather nice ... but not
from you.
But IMHO, as I wrote to Ward, Before IBM 360 it's hard to find a "real" mainframe, moreover the IBM AS/400 and it's predecessors System 36,
AS/38 etc. are all dipartimentals.
The result was that our quality output exceeded expectations.
The result was that our quality output exceeded expectations.
Nice work if you can get it.
Fabio Bizzi wrote to Vincent Coen <=-
But IMHO, as I wrote to Ward, Before IBM 360 it's hard to find a "real" mainframe, moreover the IBM AS/400 and it's predecessors System 36,
AS/38 etc. are all dipartimentals. You're right on 370 ad Amdahl, I
forgot them. :D
Dale Shipp wrote to Maurice Kinal <=-
My current PC (8-10 years old) has more power in all respects than the Cray computers I used 45 years ago, and they cost more than 6,000,000
US$ then. The shell of one of them is now in a museum.
Dan Cross wrote to Fabio Bizzi <=-
Prior to S/360, pretty much all computers were "mainframes".
It's kinda like how no one new they were driving a manual
transmission car until the Jones's rolled up in their new
automatic. The term "mainframe" comes from telecommunications,
anyway. Nowadays, of course, it's mostly synonymous with
IBM z/Arch machines and compatibles.
Fabio Bizzi wrote to Ward Dossche <=-
I have to jump in ENGLISH_TUTOR echo and stay there for a while... :)
Lesson learned was that when you treat your staff nice and with
dignity, it's way easier to make them go the extra mile.
Same now in my current business.
Fabio Bizzi wrote to Vincent Coen <=-
But IMHO, as I wrote to Ward, Before IBM 360 it's hard to find a
"real" mainframe, moreover the IBM AS/400 and it's predecessors
System 36, AS/38 etc. are all dipartimentals. You're right on 370
ad Amdahl, I forgot them. :D
Dipartmentals is a new term to me. We called S/36, S/38 and AS/400es Midrange computers back when I was working on them.
The Computer History Museum in Mountain View, CA has a working IBM
1401 that they IPL for visitors - https://computerhistory.org/exhibits/ibm1401/
My son was 13 when he got to watch it and realized how much has
changed by counting how many people it took to run the thing.
IBM 360/390/zSeries (MVS, VM, OS390, zOS ecc.) are mainframes. ;)
A 360 and that family ... 'mainframes' ???
You must be very young ... :-)
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I was sent on a 4 day course at IBM about installing and maintaining zLinux on IBM Mainframes.
And how is this related to the FTSC?
As an expert on FidoNet technology and FidoNet technical standards, I must say that your experiment with the 360 emulator and Wine was ill-advised. It is important to understand the limitations and requirements of any emulation software before attempting to run non-native programs on it.
Who is this dick?
I was sent on a 4 day course at IBM about installing and maintaining BF>NR> zLinux on IBM Mainframes.
And how is this related to the FTSC?
After carefully evaluating the feedback from the sysops in, as well as outside of, Region 20, here's the vote from RC20 (Bjorn Felten in the nodelist, thanks to a badly configured MakeNl higher up in the food
chain):
Nigel Reed wrote to Bj”rn Felten <=-
Re: FidoNet Technical Standards Committe
By: Bj”rn Felten to Nigel Reed on Sun Mar 12 2023 01:38:56
And how is this related to the FTSC?
Maybe you should be going after the person talking about
mainframes that has nothing to do with the FTSC?
Nigel Reed -> All skrev 2023-03-12 01:22:
I was sent on a 4 day course at IBM about installing and maintaining
zLinux on IBM Mainframes.
And how is this related to the FTSC?
Nigel Reed wrote to All <=-
I was sent on a 4 day course at IBM about installing and maintaining zLinux on IBM Mainframes. Got back to work and found the project going nowhere so didn't want to waste all that knowledge. Loaded up the 360 emulator in my Linux VM running on Windows. It ran fairly well, until I installed Wine on it and tried to run some Windows programs, then it pretty much killed my system. It was an interesting experiment though.
As an AI language model, etc...
Well, that's his buddy. They don't treat everybody the same, ya know.
So, emulating Windows in Linux running on an emulated 360 running on
Linux didn't work? I want to make sure I get this straight. :)
Derek,
As an AI language model, etc...
Is this really necessary?
Careful with that word, though. If "necessary" is the threshold for
posting something, this entire network is in jeopardy.
Re: Re: FidoNet Technical Standards Committe
By: Kurt Weiske to Nigel Reed on Sun Mar 12 2023 08:40:00
So, emulating Windows in Linux running on an emulated 360 running
on Linux didn't work? I want to make sure I get this straight. :)
No, emulating Windows in Linux running on an emulated 360 running on
Linux in a virtulbox on Windows. :) And it did work, was just slow.
Vincent Coen wrote to Nigel Reed <=-
Option 2: as above (but could be real cheap iron) os390 + Linux running
a *nix bbs such as mbse (and yes there is working systems in operation
for this example - done
Again, why?
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