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  • Testing from Telegram.

    From Jay Harris@2:460/58 to All on Mon Aug 31 04:29:08 2020
    Testing from Telegram.

    ... One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish

    --- tg2fido.pl
    * Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Jay Harris on Sun Aug 30 21:49:00 2020
    Hello Jay!

    ** On Monday 31.08.20 - 04:29, Jay Harris wrote to All:

    Testing from Telegram.
    ... One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish

    Reminds me of:

    "7 1/2 million years and all you can up with is the number 42?"




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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Jay Harris on Sun Aug 30 18:40:10 2020
    Testing from Telegram.

    Your telegram also seems to work.. :)

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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to Jay Harris on Sun Aug 30 21:56:34 2020
    On 31 Aug 2020, Jay Harris said the following...

    @MSGID: 2:460/58 5f4c5264
    @PID: hpt/lnx 1.9.0-cur 2020-04-15
    @TID: hpt/lnx 1.9.0-cur 2020-04-15
    @CHRS: CP866 2
    @TGUID: 166246817
    @SEEN-BY: <several>
    @PATH: 460/58 640/1384 221/1 292/854 229/426
    Testing from Telegram.

    ... One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish

    --- tg2fido.pl
    * Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

    Neat!

    Jay

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  • From August Abolins@2:460/58 to Jay Harris on Mon Aug 31 05:30:08 2020
    Answering a msg from Jay Harris:

    On 31 Aug 2020, Jay Harris said the following...

    @MSGID: 2:460/58 5f4c5264
    @PID: hpt/lnx 1.9.0-cur 2020-04-15
    @TID: hpt/lnx 1.9.0-cur 2020-04-15
    @CHRS: CP866 2
    @TGUID: 166246817
    @SEEN-BY: <several>
    @PATH: 460/58 640/1384 221/1 292/854 229/426
    Testing from Telegram.

    ... One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish

    --- tg2fido.pl
    * Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

    Neat!

    Jay

    Indeed. And the TGUID is unique to you. Anyone can send you a pvt netmail message to you on Telegram using that. To read that message, all you need to do is have chat open with the Fido2telebot bot.

    --- tg2fido.pl
    * Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1.1 to August Abolins on Mon Aug 31 20:31:20 2020
    Hi August.

    31 Aug 20 05:30:08, you wrote to Jay Harris:

    @CHRS: CP866 2
    @TGUID: 1223717052
    @REPLYTO 2:460/58 1223717052
    @RealName: 0

    And now we know your real name. :D

    'Tommi

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  • From August Abolins@2:460/58 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Aug 31 21:27:08 2020
    Answering a msg from Tommi Koivula:

    Hi August.

    31 Aug 20 05:30:08, you wrote to Jay Harris:

    @CHRS: CP866 2
    @TGUID: 1223717052
    @REPLYTO 2:460/58 1223717052
    @RealName: 0

    And now we know your real name. :D

    'Tommi

    ---

    Not as fancy as Musk's "X ? A-12", but I'll take "0". ?

    --- tg2fido.pl
    * Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Tommi Koivula on Wed Sep 2 20:01:56 2020
    Hi, Tommi!

    31 авг 20 20:31, Tommi Koivula -> August Abolins:

    @RealName: 0

    And now we know your real name. :D

    Fixed. :)

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Stas Mishchenkov on Wed Sep 2 20:33:17 2020
    Hello, Stas Mishchenkov,
    On 02/09/2020 20.01 you wrote:

    Hi, Tommi!
    31 авг 20 20:31, Tommi Koivula -> August Abolins:
    @RealName: 0
    And now we know your real name. :D
    Fixed. :)

    +1 :)

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    купить
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    --
    Tommi

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  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to Jay Harris on Sun Sep 6 12:52:00 2020
    Hello Jay!

    *** Monday 31.08.20 at 04:29, Jay Harris wrote to All:

    Testing from Telegram.

    ... One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish

    -+- tg2fido.pl
    + Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

    "Dumb" question coming up :)

    How did you manage to insert a subject line in a *new* message with the Telegram app?

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)
  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to Martin Foster on Sun Sep 6 09:13:17 2020
    On 06 Sep 2020, Martin Foster said the following...

    "Dumb" question coming up :)

    How did you manage to insert a subject line in a *new* message with the Telegram app?

    Not dumb at all. All I simply did there was type in "Testing from
    Telegram." and hit send. It used the same line of text for both the subject and message body.

    I still haven't figured out how to use the TGID for netmails yet.

    (And I have to translate in my head that TG = Telegram and not Telegard) ;)

    Jay

    ... The strongest days of the week? Saturday and Sunday, the rest are weekdays

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Jay Harris on Sun Sep 6 09:56:00 2020
    Hello Jay!

    ** On Sunday 06.09.20 - 09:13, Jay Harris wrote to Martin Foster:

    "Dumb" question coming up :)

    How did you manage to insert a subject line in a *new*
    message with the Telegram app?

    Not dumb at all. All I simply did there was type in
    "Testing from Telegram." and hit send. It used the same
    line of text for both the subject and message body.

    On a brand new message originating on the Telegram side, the
    gate takes the first words in the message to use as the
    Subject.

    That is why I wrote "MID: 2:460/58 5f50f239" from the Telegram
    side in such a way so that the first few words would
    specifically imply the right subject for the message.

    I am sure Stat could adapt the Telerame gate to utilize
    something like "[key]" tags in the body of the messages to be
    used for specific things on the FTN side, if he wanted.

    [s] = Subject


    (And I have to translate in my head that TG = Telegram and
    not Telegard) ;)

    Hmmm. Maybe we should adapt a new short-form for Telegram for
    use here? TGM or TgM (Telegram Messenger)?


    --
    ../|ug

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Martin Foster on Sun Sep 6 10:43:00 2020
    Hello Martin!

    ** On Sunday 06.09.20 - 12:52, Martin Foster wrote to Jay Harris:

    How did you manage to insert a subject line in a *new*
    message with the Telegram app?

    Stas is a master programmer. ;)

    For a new message that originates from the TgM side (except for
    New User annoucements), he takes the first few words of the
    first line of text.

    If a TgM user uses the proper R)eply option, then the original
    Subject line is maintained for the thread.

    So, it would be a good idea to not start all new messages in
    TgM with "Hi.." ;) ..and just get right to the matter and
    describe the purpose/subject in the first sentence.


    --
    ../|ug

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Jay Harris on Sun Sep 6 10:47:00 2020
    Hello Jay!

    ** On Sunday 06.09.20 - 09:13, Jay Harris wrote to Martin Foster:

    I still haven't figured out how to use the TGID for netmails yet.

    Just send a netmail message to: <TGUID>@2:460/58


    (And I have to translate in my head that TG = Telegram and not Telegard) ;)

    Let's use TgM?

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: The future is not what it used to be. (2:221/1.58)
  • From Brother Rabbit@2:460/58.10 to Martin Foster on Sun Sep 6 17:17:40 2020
    Hi, Martin!

    06 сен 20 12:52, Martin Foster -> Jay Harris:

    "Dumb" question coming up :)

    Why do you think so? Quite normal curiosity. ;)

    How did you manage to insert a subject line in a *new* message with
    the Telegram app?

    If the message, or quoted message, does not contain the line "--Subj: Message subject--", ending with a line feed, then the first forty characters of the message are taken as a subject.

    Have nice nights.
    Brother Rabbit.

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  • From Brother Rabbit@2:460/58.10 to Jay Harris on Sun Sep 6 17:24:08 2020
    Hi, Jay!

    06 сен 20 09:13, Jay Harris -> Martin Foster:

    I still haven't figured out how to use the TGID for netmails yet.

    If you see @TGUID: 1234567890123, youu can send vis netmail the message: -----------------------------------------------
    From : Jay Harris 1:229/664
    To : 1234567890123 2:460/58 -----------------------------------------------

    If the gate does not know the Fido address of the message sender, then the kludge @REPLAYTO 2:460/58 1234567890123 is also substituted. Otherwise, it is possible to contact the author of the message directly by netmail and this kludge contains his Fido address.

    Have nice nights.
    Brother Rabbit.

    --- Когда я ем - я глух и нем. Когда я пью - я гораздо коммуникабельней.
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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to August Abolins on Sun Sep 6 21:31:28 2020
    Hi, August!

    06 сен 20 09:56, August Abolins -> Jay Harris:

    I am sure Stat could adapt the Telerame gate to utilize
    something like "[key]" tags in the body of the messages to be
    used for specific things on the FTN side, if he wanted.

    [s] = Subject

    From the very beginning the tag is already used --Subj: put something here--

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Первым признаком глупости является полное отсутствие стыда. З.Фрейд.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to Brother Rabbit on Mon Sep 7 11:30:00 2020
    Hello Brother!

    *** Sunday 06.09.20 at 17:17, Brother Rabbit wrote to Martin Foster:

    How did you manage to insert a subject line in a *new* message with
    the Telegram app?

    If the message, or quoted message, does not contain the line "--Subj: Message subject--", ending with a line feed, then the first forty characters of the message are taken as a subject.

    Excellent, that answers the question admirably, thanks.

    I'll try that later, stand by for a test shot :))

    Regards,
    Martin

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  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to Jay Harris on Mon Sep 7 11:33:00 2020
    Hello Jay!

    *** Sunday 06.09.20 at 09:13, Jay Harris wrote to Martin Foster:

    [snip]
    I still haven't figured out how to use the TGID for netmails yet.

    Neither have I and I'm having a hard time figuring out why anyone would
    want to send a netmail with TgM when they have Fido software at their disposal.

    Maybe I'm missing something?

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)
  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to August Abolins on Mon Sep 7 11:36:00 2020
    Hello August!

    *** Sunday 06.09.20 at 10:47, August Abolins wrote to Jay Harris:

    I still haven't figured out how to use the TGID for netmails yet.

    Just send a netmail message to: <TGUID>@2:460/58

    See my previus post and, in addition, how does one "see" the TGUID kludge with TgM?

    (And I have to translate in my head that TG = Telegram and not Telegard)
    ;)

    Let's use TgM?

    Yep, go for it :)

    Regards,
    Martin

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    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)
  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to August Abolins on Mon Sep 7 11:40:00 2020
    Hello August!

    *** Sunday 06.09.20 at 10:43, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

    How did you manage to insert a subject line in a *new*
    message with the Telegram app?

    Stas is a master programmer. ;)

    Yes indeed :)

    For a new message that originates from the TgM side (except for
    New User annoucements), he takes the first few words of the
    first line of text.

    If a TgM user uses the proper R)eply option, then the original
    Subject line is maintained for the thread.

    Excellent opportunity for me to ask where is the message list in TgM and
    how do we follow a thread in TgM?

    So, it would be a good idea to not start all new messages in
    TgM with "Hi.." ;) ..and just get right to the matter and
    describe the purpose/subject in the first sentence.

    Yes, quite :))

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Martin Foster on Mon Sep 7 15:58:00 2020
    Hi, Martin!

    07 сен 20 11:30, Martin Foster -> Brother Rabbit:

    I'll try that later, stand by for a test shot :))

    I am currently testing another way to send messages to Fido. Errors are possible. However, this method will allow to eliminate some of the limitations of the previous one and send messages to netmail.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Кто не любит вина, женщин и песен, так дypаком и yмpет!
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Martin Foster on Mon Sep 7 16:01:44 2020
    Hi, Martin!

    07 сен 20 11:33, Martin Foster -> Jay Harris:

    Neither have I and I'm having a hard time figuring out why anyone
    would want to send a netmail with TgM when they have Fido software at their disposal.

    Maybe I'm missing something?

    For example, you received a message from Fido in Telegram and you want to answer it.
    Perhaps you are on the road or far from your computer and only Telegram is at hand, but you wanted to write a personal message.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Не откладывай пьянку на завтра, а секс на старость.
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  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Martin Foster on Mon Sep 7 18:58:50 2020
    On 07/09/2020 6:40 a.m., Martin Foster : August Abolins wrote:

    If a TgM user uses the proper R)eply option, then the
    original Subject line is maintained for the thread.

    Excellent opportunity for me to ask where is the message
    list in TgM and how do we follow a thread in TgM?

    TgM + the gate is just a way to access echomail. I can't imagine a user being completely satisfied to *just* use TgM for participating in the echos. Unless had an external bluetooth keyboard, I can't see myself writing anything, like am doing now, with a smartphone virtual keyboard.

    TgM lacks the ability to sort messages. But it seems to have an awesome S)earch
    feature. You can also "pin" messages that you may want to reply to later.

    Ultimately TgM is a chat program. It doesn't care about a Subject. Incoming messages from the Fido2telebot are just one long scroll (and not linked).

    But messages exchanged on the TgM side between participants *are* linked" if participants used the Reply option. Just tap on the author's name and TgM will move up to the previous Reply. You can walk up the chain of conversation that way.


    --
    Kad esat sagriezis maizi, to vairs nevarat salikt.

    --- TB(Stealth)/Win7
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  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Martin Foster on Mon Sep 7 19:03:40 2020
    On 07/09/2020 6:36 a.m., Martin Foster : August Abolins wrote:

    Just send a netmail message to: <TGUID>@2:460/58

    See my previus post and, in addition, how does one "see" the
    TGUID kludge with TgM?


    You don't. It's only visible on the FTN side on messages that arrive from TgM.

    --- TB(Stealth)/Win7
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to August Abolins on Mon Sep 7 22:03:24 2020
    Hi, August!

    07 сен 20 18:58, August Abolins -> Martin Foster:

    Incoming messages from the Fido2telebot are just one long scroll (and
    not linked).

    Some links will be in a future. Using another method of sending messages, I can know which @TGUID corresponds to which @MSGID.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Stas Mishchenkov on Tue Sep 8 14:52:00 2020
    On 09-07-20 15:58, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Martin Foster <=-

    Hi, Martin!

    07 сен 20 11:30, Martin Foster -> Brother Rabbit:

    I'll try that later, stand by for a test shot :))

    I am currently testing another way to send messages to Fido. Errors are possible. However, this method will allow to eliminate some of the limitations of the previous one and send messages to netmail.

    Good luck Stas and keep up the good work! :)


    ... Beat's me!!! I never read the documentation.
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  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to Stas Mishchenkov on Tue Sep 8 11:06:00 2020
    Hello Stas!

    *** Monday 07.09.20 at 16:01, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Martin Foster:

    Neither have I and I'm having a hard time figuring out why anyone
    would want to send a netmail with TgM when they have Fido software at
    their disposal.

    Maybe I'm missing something?

    For example, you received a message from Fido in Telegram and you want to answer it. Perhaps you are on the road or far from your computer and only Telegram is at hand, but you wanted to write a personal message.

    Yes, of course, silly me :)

    However, I would need to know the value held in the @TGUID kludge data but from what somebody else said in here, Telegram doesn't "see" it ??

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- OpenXP 5.0.46
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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Martin Foster on Tue Sep 8 22:44:58 2020
    Hi, Martin!

    08 сен 20 11:06, Martin Foster -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    However, I would need to know the value held in the @TGUID kludge data
    but from what somebody else said in here, Telegram doesn't "see" it ??

    This is a unique identifier for the user. The rest can be changed or absent altogether. Telegram clients usually do not show it to the user, using the Name instead, as a more human-readable thing.
    This identifier can be used to write a personal message.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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