Greetings All!

Ok, I think I have this working pretty good now! Had a battle with areasep but once I read it more carefully figured it out. The two settings or questions I still have that I have not been able to find answers to are;

Is there a setting that eliminates origin, signature etc from a message that you are quoting so that you do not have to manually delete it?

Two, just a cosmetic question, is there a way to have the echo description in the area list when you start golded?

like for this echo in cfg I have at the end of the areadef line "GoldED support " I would like those comments if possible in the area list upon running golded?

Thanks everyone for all the help in getting this up and running it is really appreciated.

Regards,

Nitro


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Hello Rick,

Is there a setting that eliminates origin, signature etc from a
message that you are quoting so that you do not have to manually
delete it?

QUOTECTRL No in golded.cfg will not quote tear and origin lines.

Two, just a cosmetic question, is there a way to have the echo
description in the area list when you start golded?

like for this echo in cfg I have at the end of the areadef line
"GoldED support " I would like those comments if possible in the area
list upon running golded?

I use AREALISTFORMAT "ME D CPUN G" in golded.cfg Look that up in the advanced.cfg for more examples.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Hi Rick!

03 Apr 2020 20:32, from Rick Smith -> All:

Is there a setting that eliminates origin, signature etc from a
message that you are quoting so that you do not have to manually
delete it?

// QUOTECTRL <Tearline,Origin,yes/no>
// Specifies if you want quote tearline and/or origin in your messages. QUOTECTRL No

Two, just a cosmetic question, is there a way to have the echo
description in the area list when you start golded?

AREALISTFORMAT "AM E CPUN D G "
Gives me this.
Area EchoID Msgs New Description G
1 golded 131 1 GoldEd+ Message Editor A

Look in the documentation for all the possibilities.

CU, Ricsi

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Greetings Al,

QUOTECTRL No in golded.cfg will not quote tear and origin lines.

Thank you so much, I try searching for key words in the docs and cfg this
never came up.

I use AREALISTFORMAT "ME D CPUN G" in golded.cfg Look that up in the advanced.cfg for more examples.

Excellent ! Ok so I lied one more question, you may notice I am posting from mystic instead of golded. Well when I fired up golded this morning it lost
all my last messages read and it reset all the numbers.. Did that make sense? so for instance my netmail went from 156 0 back to 156 156*?

Thanks Again

Rick

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messages. QUOTECTRL No

Perfect!

AREALISTFORMAT "AM E CPUN D G "

I knew there had to be a way! I got a slightly different response Ill play around with the different formats thank you for pointing me in the right direction. My unread messages is getting reset over night is that also a setting? Or the way I have this setup?

Regards,

Rick

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Hello Rick,

On Sat Apr 04 2020 08:03:16, Rick Smith wrote to Alan Ianson:

I use AREALISTFORMAT "ME D CPUN G" in golded.cfg Look that up in
the advanced.cfg for more examples.

Excellent ! Ok so I lied one more question, you may notice I am
posting from mystic instead of golded. Well when I fired up golded
this morning it lost all my last messages read and it reset all the numbers.. Did that make sense? so for instance my netmail went from
156 0 back to 156 156*?

Are you sharing your Mystic JAM areas with Golded? If so, did you newscan messages on your BBS and then see that Golded's last read pointers were updated?

When sharing message bases, whichever one you read messages with will update the last read pointers first. So then when you use the other program (in your case, golded), the pointers were already updated to the lastest messages you've read.

Am I close?

Regards,
Nick

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Hi Rick!

04 Apr 2020 08:06, from Rick Smith -> Richard Menedetter:

My unread messages is getting reset over night
is that also a setting? Or the way I have this setup?

Golded is just an editor.
I assume you run some maintenance utility that messes with your messagebase. (in 99 of 100 cases the culrpit is called Mystic or mutil or something Mystic related)

CU, Ricsi

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Excellent ! Ok so I lied one more question, you may notice I am
posting from mystic instead of golded. Well when I fired up golded
this morning it lost all my last messages read and it reset all the numbers.. Did that make sense? so for instance my netmail went from
156 0 back to 156 156*?

I don't use Mystic, but I use another editor (gossiped). Both make use of the same last read pointer and show the same numbers.

Have you changed your username in Golded?

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Have you changed your username in Golded?

I dont believe so, although would it have anything to do with using an alias
vs not? Like in fidonet I use my real name and in all the other networks I
use handle?

Ill experiment a little, trying to get spell check working now..

Just so that I understand advanced.cfg is kind of like for my reference and golded only looks at golded.cfg?

Regards,

Rick

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I assume you run some maintenance utility that messes with your messagebase. (in 99 of 100 cases the culrpit is called Mystic or mutil
or something Mystic re lated)

Ill have a look at this, thank you!

Thank you for the arealistsort command helpful! Did not give me quite what I was after but sure looks nicer the way you have it...

Here is what I was trying to get, maybe not possible?
;Syntax: Echoid "Description" Groupid Type Format Path or board Aka (Att
ibutes) "Origin"

AREADEF MYSTIC "MYSTIC" 3 Echo JAM \\abacus1\mystic\msgs\MYSTIC 1:340/202 "Mys
ic BBS support and Chat!"

The very last section where it has the actual description of the echo area
like "mystic bbs support and Chat!" I think the cfg file lists that like
above "origin" but I cannot find a reference to arealistsort that deals with that field.

Regards,

Rick

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Hi Rick!

04 Apr 2020 12:14, from Rick Smith -> Oli:

Ill experiment a little, trying to get spell check working now..

Use this:
SCheckerEnabled Auto
SCheckerDefLang en_US
SCheckerDicPath "/usr/local/etc/golded+/dict"

And these 2 files in the DicPath
https://menedetter.net/en_US.aff
https://menedetter.net/en_US.dic

Just so that I understand advanced.cfg is kind of like for my
reference and golded only looks at golded.cfg?

Yes.
You can also copy advanced.cfg to golded.cfg and use that.

CU, Ricsi

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Hi Rick!

04 Apr 2020 12:17, from Rick Smith -> Richard Menedetter:

Thank you for the arealistsort command helpful!

Sorry I did not get what you want, but here is the description from gold_ref.txt

AREALISTFORMAT <string> ("AM D CPUN E G ")

The arealist column layout is configurable. This keyword allows you
to change the layout to whatever you like

The default is:
AREALISTFORMAT "AM D CPUN E G "

This produces the usual layout. Here is another:
AREALISTFORMAT "ME D CPUN G "

This one puts the echoid in front and eliminates the area numbers.

The letters stand for the following:

letter meaning default width
A Area number 4
M Marked 1
D Description Dynamic
C Number of messages 6
P Personal mail mark ('+') 1
U Number of unread/new messages 6
N Changed since last scan mark ('*') 1
E Echoid AREALISTECHOMAX
G Groupid Dynamic: 0, 1 or 3

You can also specify widths if you don't like the defaults:

AREALISTFORMAT "AM D C4PU4N E G "

In this example, the Msgs and New columns are put back to the size
they had in "old days".

If you leave out a letter, that column will not be shown.

Use only the defined letters. Use spaces to specify required space
between columns. Use only positive numbers for widths. Failure to
obey these rules may cause undocumented behaviour.

CU, Ricsi

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Hello Rick,

Excellent ! Ok so I lied one more question, you may notice I am
posting from mystic instead of golded. Well when I fired up golded
this morning it lost all my last messages read and it reset all the numbers.. Did that make sense? so for instance my netmail went from
156 0 back to 156 156*?

Yes, I have seen that before when I was using golded together with Mystic and I could never come to any conclusion about why that happened.

It could be sharing last read pointers with Mystic as Nicholas said. When you read message in mystic does golded know where you left off and pick up there?

It's been some time since I used Golded and Mystic so I'm not sure what's happening there.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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04 Apr 20 12:14, you wrote to me:

Have you changed your username in Golded?

I dont believe so, although would it have anything to do with using an alias vs not? Like in fidonet I use my real name and in all the other networks I use handle?

If you change your username in Golded, it uses another lastread record. E.g. if you had "Rick Smith" as a Username and later changed it to "Smooth Rock", all messages would be shown as unread, because a fresh lastread record would be created for the new Username. I don't know if Golded uses the global Username for all areas or the one that is set for the area.


=====================================================================
????????.JLR Lastread storage
---------------------------------------------------------------------
The .JLR file is used to maintain a user's position within a message
area. The layout of the "lastread" record follows. One record per
user is required.

LastRead:
ulong UserCRC; // CRC-32 of user name (lowercase) (1)
ulong UserID; // Unique UserID
ulong LastReadMsg; // Last read message number
ulong HighReadMsg; // Highest read message number
end;

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Hello Alan,

On Sun Apr 05 2020 00:34:00, Alan Ianson wrote to Rick Smith:

Yes, I have seen that before when I was using golded together with
Mystic and I could never come to any conclusion about why that
happened.

It could be sharing last read pointers with Mystic as Nicholas said.
When you read message in mystic does golded know where you left off
and pick up there?

This is exactly what happens when sharing message bases between two different programs. Golded only knows where the last read pointer is as it's stored in the .lhr file, and if you read messages in Mystic, Mystic will update those last read pointers. Golded will then go off where Mystic put that last read pointer, and vice versa.

It's been some time since I used Golded and Mystic so I'm not sure
what's happening there.

I tried it once, but for the same reasoning as above, I separated all my message bases. To each their own, though. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Re: Re: 2 Settings questions
By: Rick Smith to Oli on Sat Apr 04 2020 12:14:00

Just so that I understand advanced.cfg is kind of like for my reference and golded only looks at golded.cfg?

basically but advanced.cfg is an example with a lot more detail to show how detailed you can get with your GE configuration... you can rename it to golded.cfg and use it if you like... the main thing is that it provides a very detailed example that one can use...


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Sunday April 05 2020 10:00, Oli wrote to Rick Smith:

04 Apr 20 12:14, you wrote to me:

Have you changed your username in Golded?

I dont believe so, although would it have anything to do with using an
alias vs not? Like in fidonet I use my real name and in all the other
networks I use handle?

If you change your username in Golded, it uses another lastread record.

E.g. if

you had "Rick Smith" as a Username and later changed it to "Smooth Rock",

all

messages would be shown as unread, because a fresh lastread record would

be

created for the new Username. I don't know if Golded uses the global

Username

for all areas or the one that is set for the area.

GoldED uses the first "username" in the config for .JLR's.

It is possible to play with this, you may for example put some dummy username first, and let GoldED use another lastread pointers than with your name in BBS.

Pressing "i" shows which index is used.

=== Begin Clipboard ===
Lastread Record:

Index : 0
UserCrc : 6D4DCD72h
UserId : 6D4DCD72h
Lastread : 1028
Highread : 1028
=== End Clipboard ===

And it is still possible to use any name when writing. Just define "group".

=== Begin Clipboard ===

GROUP All
member *
username Tommi Koivula
ENDGROUP
=== End Clipboard ===

'Tommi

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Hello Rick!

04 Apr 20, Rick Smith wrote to Alan Ianson:

this morning it lost all my last messages read and it reset all the numbers.. Did that make sense? so for instance my netmail went from
156 0 back to 156 156*?

I can say for the squish messagebase that it stores the lastread pointer via a user number. Every user have it's own lastread pointer. Looks like some other tool is using your pointer 0 which is the default for golded.

Workaround: Use another lastread pointer number for golded. Attention, if you are directly working on the BBS system that pointer number may be used by another BBS user. Try to find your pointer that the BBS uses for your account.


SQUISHUSERNO <index> (0)

This sets the lastread index number for the Squish *.SQL lastread
files. Lowest number is 0 (zero), highest is (in theory) 65534.

If used, this disables the use of USER.BBS to find the index
number, and will in effect also stop GoldED from creating USER.BBS
or any new entries in it (useful in a single-user point system).

If a Squish msgbase is shared between several users, and you don't
want to have a USER.BBS (recommended in such a case), each user
must have a unique SQUISHUSERNO in their GOLDED/GOLDAREA.CFG.

Regards

Kai

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