Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Mike Powell <=-
The use of AI (Artifical Intelligence) to generate message text is >discouraged.
Sadly, we have reached that point in our history where this is
possible and, on the internet anyway, likely to happen.
I hope that at least in Fidonet we can manage it. AI can be a usefull tool, even to help people configure their IPv6. But we should not use
it to generate text in echomail messages.
Speaking about IPv6: how are you doing? Does your provider support it?
No, they do not at this point. I am guessing it will be one of those things that happens that we are not told about until we just notice it. ;)
It is my understanding that in many parts of the rest of the world the situation is different. Many poviders still do not offer IPv6 and there
is no competition between providers.
So Rogers Cable is the only "plug & play" IPv6 provider in my neighbourhood at the moment.
It is my understanding that in many parts of the rest of the world
the situation is different. Many poviders still do not offer IPv6
and there is no competition between providers.
So to all sysops that still have that bit of pioneer spirit left in> them end who are stuck with a provider that offers no native IPv6 I
say: Use the service of he.net to join the Fidonet IPv6 club!
If I were to buy fibre internet from Teksavvy, they do support IPv6
but getting it to work involves using your own router, SFP module & knowing how to configure it.
Of course. But I hope and expect that different statistics apply to
the Fidonet community. Joining Fidonet always required above
technical knowledge and although it may be easier than in the early
days, the average Fidonet sysop still is not an average internet
consumer.
He.net has stopped giving away T-shirts many years ago, but I still
have mine. I was very impressed that they managed to get it deliverd exactly on my birth day. A nice and welcome borthday present. :)
All in all 100 Fidonet sysops who's node supports IPv6 isn't really
that bad.
Considering that there is a substantial amount of dead wood in the nodelist. I regulatly test the systems in the IPv6 list for activity. Contrary to the nodelist in general the vast majority of systems in
the IPv6 list are active Fidonet systems.
This is how it works for me. My own router, two ISPs at the same time
and I know how to set it up. ;)
One of them supports IPv6 DHCP and advertise me
/64 network. From he.net I get /64 and /48
prefixes.
My two isp's provide me dynamic /64.
In addition to that, I have
static /64 and /48 from he.net.
Static is always nice. ;)
Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Nick Boel <=-
I think at this point applications are accepted as long as applicants
can make a binkp connection, and send a netmail.
Yes that seems to be the case. But once they are accepted, they are seldom checked again. If checked, only for a responding server, not for responding to netmail. So we have many ghost systems in the nodelist...
Still... As I mentioned before, when promoting IPv6 in Fidonet I sometimes run into a brick wall. The first brick wall is that of
denial. No, denial is not a river in Egypt. (Roy Witt) IPv6 is a hype, there is noo need for it, IPv4 is functioning well and will remain to
do so, if not for the rest of the century, then at least for the coming decades.
IPv4 exhaustion may not be a serious problem for the incumbents in
parts of the world where IPv4 was historically issued as if it would
last forever. But for newcomers getting enough IPv4 to give all their potential customers a globally routable IPv4 address is a serious problem. So serious that some of the newcomers in the fast gowing fibre glass sector here in Europe have stopped doing it.
Yes that seems to be the case. But once they are accepted, they are
seldom checked again. If checked, only for a responding server, not
for responding to netmail. So we have many ghost systems in the
nodelist...
I agree. While there may be more nodelisted sysops than IPv6
systems, There's definitely less than 100 people that regularly
participate in the English speaking side of Fidonet these days.
Don't forget that these days many if not most messages in Fidonet are written in the Cyrillic alphabet...
Still... As I mentioned before, when promoting IPv6 in Fidonet I
sometimes run into a brick wall. The first brick wall is that of
denial. No, denial is not a river in Egypt. (Roy Witt) IPv6 is a
hype, there is noo need for it, IPv4 is functioning well and will
remain to do so, if not for the rest of the century, then at least
for the coming decades.
For those confronted with te reality of IPv4 exhaustion and the
shattered brick wall of denial, there is brick wall #2. Hang on to
IPv4 no matter what tricks it needs.
IPv4 exhaustion may not be a serious problem for the incumbents in
parts of the world where IPv4 was historically issued as if it would
last forever.
Yes that seems to be the case. But once they are accepted, they are
seldom checked again. If checked, only for a responding server, not
for responding to netmail. So we have many ghost systems in the
nodelist...
I'd say that is the fault of the NC. There are no dead nodes in my Net.
Static is always nice. ;)My fibre provider gives me a "persistent" IPv6
prefix. Technically it is not static, it is
dynamic, but they say by making it "persistent"
they follow best practice. It does not chance as
long as the router does not change. And indeed
it has not changed since my last router change.
My coax provider offers a dynamic IPv6 pefix. It
does not change very often, once or twice a
year, but there is no discernable pattern.
Sometimes with a firmware update but also
sometimes without any traceable trigger.
Hello Tommi, On Friday July 25 2025 19:34, you
wrote to Stas Mishchenkov:
Static is always nice. ;)Not always. It depends... My fibre provider
(Delta) issues by default a "static" IPv4 address
to new customers. In the range 100.64.0.0/10.
Almost sounds like the last famous words from flip phone owners
when smartphones arrived.
In my case, this does not work. Different ISPs enter my area from
different directions.
It's not my fall. :(
Tunnelbroker nowadays is not what it used to be.
Amsterdam POP is long over-capacity and you can't even request new
tunnel there. It has jitter up to 3x times the latency and constant
packet loss around 3-5% inside HE network.
Couple of months ago it was even worse as there was constant 20-40%
packet loss for months and couple of days long complete outages. Other more close to me POPs like Stockholm are even worse as despite lower latency jitter and packet loss there even bigger and they often
partially or completely lose connectivity even to main HE network and becomes isolated.
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