Trump (on some radio program today) promised that he would still run for president even if he has to run for president from behind bars.
When he delivers a message like that, the reason is simple: It's to irritate
the leftists. They seem to think that there's a limit to how much BS Trump wil
take before he gives up, but what they don't get, is that when someone is chosen by God to do a job, there's no stopping them!
Suck it up, buttercups!
Trump (on some radio program today) promised that he would still run for presid
nt even if he has to run for president from behind bars.
When he delivers a message like that, the reason is simple: It's to irri
the leftists. They seem to think that there's a limit to how much BS Trum
take before he gives up, but what they don't get, is that when someone i chosen by God to do a job, there's no stopping them!
Chosen by god?
Chosen by god?
Absolutely! The warm blooded people who feel sad about having 2000
people die along the US/Mexico border since Joe took office, they pray
to God for help with these unfair and inhumane Democrat border
practices. God's repsonse is Trump because Trump is the toughest
opponent to slavery and border deaths that we'll ever find.
When he delivers a message like that, the reason is simple: It's to irri >> >the leftists. They seem to think that there's a limit to how much BS Trum >> > take before he gives up, but what they don't get, is that when someone i >> > chosen by God to do a job, there's no stopping them!
Chosen by god?
Absolutely! The warm blooded people who feel sad about having 2000 people die along the US/Mexico border since Joe took office,
they pray to God for help with these unfair and inhumane Democrat border practices.
God's repsonse is Trump because Trump is the toughest opponent to slavery and border deaths that we'll ever find.
When he delivers a message like that, the reason is simple: It's to irritate the leftists. They seem to think that there's a limit to howWow! Now THAT is a message, well done!
much BS Trump will take before he gives up, but what they don't get, is that when someone is chosen by God to do a job, there's no stopping them!
Suck it up, buttercups!Yup they are a bunch of cupcakes too/ w sprinkles.
Absolutely! The warm blooded people who feel sad about having 2000 peopl along the US/Mexico border since Joe took office,
That's a Texas GOP issue, not a Biden issue.
Trump is a bumbling bafoon.
You really do not have any idea.Trump (on some radio program today) promised that he would still run for president even if he has to run for president from behind bars.
There is a very good chance of that.
When he delivers a message like that, the reason is simple: It's to irrit
the leftists. They seem to think that there's a limit to how much BS Trump
take before he gives up, but what they don't get, is that when someone is
chosen by God to do a job, there's no stopping them!
Chosen by god?
That's a Texas GOP issue, not a Biden issue.
Federal government is to protect the boarder, as per the constitution... Texas as of late is trying to stop people from dying... they are adding a floating barge/fence across the Rio Grand... Feds are suing because Biden says it's preventing people from crossing and possibly dying or put into sex trafficking... Hunter now pays pesos for kinky stuff...
Trump is a bumbling bafoon.
Best president in our time
Chosen by god?
You really do not have any idea.
Enjoy the show, but you really should notice the exits,
before you sit down w/ popcorn to do so.
You can kick and scream all you want, but Gods will will be done.
That's a Texas GOP issue, not a Biden issue.
Federal government is to protect the boarder, as per the constitution... Texas as of late is trying to stop people from dying... they are adding floating barge/fence across the Rio Grand... Feds are suing because Bide says it's preventing people from crossing and possibly dying or put into trafficking... Hunter now pays pesos for kinky stuff...
That is more rightwing spin.
Trump is a bumbling bafoon.
Best president in our time
Got anything to back that up?
Got anything to back that up?
https://www.theodysseyonline.com/10-reasons-president-trump-best-president-have-ever
On 07-29-23 08:21, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Aaron Thomas about Enjoy the Trump <=-
Trump (on some radio program today) promised that he would
still run for presid
nt even if he has to run for president from behind bars.
That would be unprecidented. I wonder if there are any laws against
it?
I just looked at your origin line...
https://www.npr.org/2023/06/09/1181244928/texas-floating-barrier-rio-grande
There NPR... can't get any more left-wing than that...
ROTFL! It was obvious already in May 16, 2017. :-)
Did you really not understand that blog post? It's called satire. I guess you only read the headline.
And yes, I know it takes some intelligence to understand satire, but just the same...?
We needed a term with the Democrats so that they can be exposed.
Absolutely! The warm blooded people who feel sad about having 2000 peopl along the US/Mexico border since Joe took office,
That's a Texas GOP issue, not a Biden issue.
Prayer is good but it would be better if they voted for representation that is willing and capable to make changes to border policy, and implement it.
God's repsonse is Trump because Trump is the toughest opponent to slaver border deaths that we'll ever find.
Trump is a bumbling bafoon.
Trump didn't even build the border wall he promised. Just so you know, Mexico did not pay for what he did build. Americans did.
Biden says it's preventing people from crossing and possibly dying or
put into sex trafficking... Hunter now pays pesos for kinky stuff...
Bill Clinton is pissed off that Joe came up with the idea before he did.
Trump (on some radio program today) promised that he would still runfor presid
nt even if he has to run for president from behind bars.
That would be unprecidented. I wonder if there are any laws against it?
I just looked at your origin line...
https://www.npr.org/2023/06/09/1181244928/texas-floating-barrier-rio-gra
There NPR... can't get any more left-wing than that...
There is nothing left-wing about the floating barriers in the Rio Grande.
I don't expect anyone regardless of their leanings to put these kind of death traps in the way of human beings regardless of who they are or
where thay are going.
We needed a term with the Democrats so that they can be exposed.
Who's it getting exposed to though? The half wits are still asleep. This term WAS that term.
Biden says it's preventing people from crossing and possibly dying or put into sex trafficking... Hunter now pays pesos for kinky stuff...
Bill Clinton is pissed off that Joe came up with the idea before he d
I like the way Obama talks about slavery, murder, and sex trafficking:
"They're just poor folks lookin for a better life." -Barrack Obama
That's a Texas GOP issue, not a Biden issue.
The Texas GOP isn't killing truckloads of migrants in sweltering heat, and the Texas GOP isn't drowning people in the river; Joe Biden is.
Prayer is good but it would be better if they voted for representation
that is willing and capable to make changes to border policy, and
implement it.
Democrats failed to do so when they controlled congress, and now the Republican controlled congress is also failing to act. And Biden is the icon for failure.
Trump is a bumbling bafoon.
Trump didn't even build the border wall he promised. Just so you know,
Mexico did not pay for what he did build. Americans did.
Nobody cares about the border wall right now - what we care about is getting Trump's policies reinstated, because Trump's border policies worked perfectly, and Biden's border policies are killing thousands of people.
There is nothing left-wing about the floating barriers in the Rio Grande.
I didn't say say floating barriers was left-wing... I said NPR was a left-wing source.
I don't expect anyone regardless of their leanings to put these kind of
death traps in the way of human beings regardless of who they are or
where thay are going.
How about entering the US legally...
How about entering the US legally...
Of course Joe. Of course.
But what about these death traps?
Trump (on some radio program today) promised that he would
still run for presid
nt even if he has to run for president from behind bars.
That would be unprecidented. I wonder if there are any laws against
it?
Actually, it has been done before. I heard about it, but do not recall
who or when. It was some one running on an alternate party ticket.
eopAbsolutely! The warm blooded people who feel sad about having 2000
along the US/Mexico border since Joe took office,
That's a Texas GOP issue, not a Biden issue.
Federal government is to protect the boarder, as per the constitution...exas
I like the way Obama talks about slavery, murder, and sex trafficking:
"They're just poor folks lookin for a better life." -Barrack Obama
Could be why he killed his cook...
IB Joe wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-
We needed a term with the Democrats so that they can be exposed.
How about entering the US legally...
Of course Joe. Of course.
But what about these death traps?
Are you talking about the 1000's of miles of walking in the desert crossing and all kinds of hazards.
Is the cartel who ware raping and forcing people into sex trafficking...
Since he suggested it first, I suggest we all stop responding to him
until he actually posts something that proves he has more than a handful of brain cells and/or has reconnected with reality.
Could be why he killed his cook...
I saw an article yesterday that questioned how a grown man, who could swim, could drown in less than X feet of water. The one thing they left out was whether or not he'd been drinking. While I would seriously question how a sober man could do it... rip current maybe, if it was not in a pool... I would not be so quick to question how a drunk man could
do it.
No. I am talking about the Texas GOP constructed death traps.
Is the cartel who ware raping and forcing people into sex trafficking...
Did you just try to turn this into something sexy?
When he delivers a message like that, the reason is simple: It's tois
irritate the leftists. They seem to think that there's a limit to how
much BS Trump will take before he gives up, but what they don't get,
that when someone is chosen by God to do a job, there's no stoppingthem!
Wow! Now THAT is a message, well done!
Suck it up, buttercups!
Yup they are a bunch of cupcakes too/ w sprinkles.
IB Joe -> Alan Ianson skrev 2023-07-30 02:47:
Got anything to back that up?
https://www.theodysseyonline.com/10-reasons-president-trump-best-president-have-ever
ROTFL! It was obvious already in May 16, 2017. :-)
Did you really not understand that blog post? It's called satire. I guess you only read the headline.
And yes, I know it takes some intelligence to understand satire, but just the same...?
Trump is a bumbling bafoon.
Best president in our time
Got anything to back that up?
What do historians have to say?
Did you really not understand that blog post? It's called satire. I guess you only read the headline.
I didn't really read it fully...
Trump had a rally after he left office, Texas. ~85,000 people showed up.
there was a lineup to get into the event~45 miles, ~72 KM in communism
I've had my eyes opened over the past few years, I am hopeful things can be turned around... because I have grandchildren.... I hope we can shake this globalist funk we're in.
The Texas GOP isn't killing truckloads of migrants in sweltering heat, AI> > AI> > a
the Texas GOP isn't drowning people in the river; Joe Biden is.
How is Joe Biden "killing truckloads of migrants"?
Democrats failed to do so when they controlled congress, and now the Republican controlled congress is also failing to act. And Biden is the AI> > AI> >
for failure.
Only in your head.
If the American people want a different "border policy" it is up to American law makers to create policies and impliment them. That is not something Biden (or any president) can do.
No. I am talking about the Texas GOP constructed death traps.
What are these death traps you are talking about?
Did you just try to turn this into something sexy?
Child sex trafficking not a funny topic...
U must be one of their Johns
Got anything to back that up?
What do historians have to say?
We are all historians. What have we been saying?
How is Joe Biden "killing truckloads of migrants"?
He's killing them by subtly inviting them to the USA.
"No covid testing for migrants."
"Migrants will not be forced to vaccinate."
"Migrants will not be forced to remain in Mexico."
"Migrants will get free hotel rooms."
"Migrants will be released before we even check their criminal records."
He's inviting them here, but he's not providing them with safe transportation, >and he's not keeping the ones with criminal records out of the country. If the >don't die inside the tank of a propane truck, or in the river, then they'll di
when they mess with the wrong Americans.
If the American people want a different "border policy" it is up to
American law makers to create policies and impliment them. That is not
something Biden (or any president) can do.
In the USA, the president has a power called "Executive Order." He/she can
create a new policy in the blink of an eye. We can't call these orders "laws,"
but failure to obey these orders IS ILLEGAL. Trump made one that required migrants to remain in Mexico while their requests for asylum were processed.
Biden put that policy in the shredder and invited millions of illegal migrants
to walk right in.
Congress won't intervene. They are all worthless.
On 07-30-23 08:38, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Enjoy the Trump <=-
Trump (on some radio program today) promised that he would
still run for presid
nt even if he has to run for president from behind bars.
That would be unprecidented. I wonder if there are any laws against it?
Actually, it has been done before. I heard about it, but do not recall
who or when. It was some one running on an alternate party ticket.
Oh, yeah, I don't remember who or when, either.
The Smithsonian Magazine website says that Eugene V. Debs ran and lost
in 1920 while serving time in an Atlanta penitentiary on what sound
like quasi-questionable charges for giving an anti-war speach in 1918.
He supposedly pulled in nearly 1 million votes. It does not indicate which third party he was the candiate of.
Mike Powell wrote to IB JOE <=-
Al is a moron who has proven he has absolutely no understanding of our Constitution (and probably not even his own), what obstruction of
justice is (unless a Republican does it), or much anything else
regarding our US legal system.
Since he suggested it first, I suggest we all stop responding to him
until he actually posts something that proves he has more than a
handful of brain cells and/or has reconnected with reality.
Aaron Thomas wrote to IB Joe <=-
We've never had this many dangerous problems is such a short amount of time, but the biggest and most dangerous problem is idiot voters. Once
we find a way to get facts through their skulls, then we'll be able to save the country.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Alan Ianson <=-
In the USA, the president has a power called "Executive Order." He/she
can create a new policy in the blink of an eye. We can't call these
orders "laws," but failure to obey these orders IS ILLEGAL.
Congress won't intervene. They are all worthless.
We've never had this many dangerous problems is such a short amount of time, but the biggest and most dangerous problem is idiot voters. Once
we find a way to get facts through their skulls, then we'll be able to save the country.
The newly installed razor wire barricades in the Rio Grande.
It isn't. I thought we were talking about border security.
U must be one of their Johns
No, you are just spinning up dirt.
The Smithsonian Magazine website says that Eugene V. Debs ran and lost in 1920 while serving time in an Atlanta penitentiary on what sound
like quasi-questionable charges for giving an anti-war speach in 1918. He supposedly pulled in nearly 1 million votes. It does not indicate which third party he was the candiate of.
Now that you mention it, that name and time sound familiar. Thanks for
the research.
Ron L. wrote to Mike Powell <=-
We've commented before on the interesting phenomenon where
+ We stop listening to one Ignorant Elitist
+ He stops posting
+ Then another Ignorant Elitst, that we haven't heard from for a while, starts posting.
Stop coming to the US and committing crimes... There is a legal way to come to the US... Try that way... less razor wire...
BTW, you should see what I have in store for the people who come to my hose trying to commit crimes...
No, you are just spinning up dirt.
89,000 kids are lost and are probably involved in sex trafficking...
If the boarder was secure these 89,000 children would not be in that spot.
againstThat would be unprecidented. I wonder if there are any laws
it?
Actually, it has been done before. I heard about it, but do not recall
who or when. It was some one running on an alternate party ticket.
Oh, yeah, I don't remember who or when, either.
The Smithsonian Magazine website says that Eugene V. Debs ran andlost
in 1920 while serving time in an Atlanta penitentiary on what sound1918.
like quasi-questionable charges for giving an anti-war speach in
He supposedly pulled in nearly 1 million votes. It does not indicate
which third party he was the candiate of.
Now that you mention it, that name and time sound familiar. Thanks for the
research.
heat, AI> > AI> > aThe Texas GOP isn't killing truckloads of migrants in sweltering
the Texas GOP isn't drowning people in the river; Joe Biden is.
How is Joe Biden "killing truckloads of migrants"?
He's killing them by subtly inviting them to the USA.
We've never had this many dangerous problems is such a short amount of time,
but the biggest and most dangerous problem is idiot voters. Once we find a way to get facts through their skulls, then we'll be able to save the country.
What do historians have to say?
We are all historians. What have we been saying?
Congress won't intervene. They are all worthless.
I have good news and bad news. The current GOP congress is in fact worthless. The good news is you can vote in new congress members and
don't vote in the idiots.
We've never had this many dangerous problems is such a short amount RL> AT> o
time, but the biggest and most dangerous problem is idiot voters. RL> AT> Onc
we find a way to get facts through their skulls, then we'll be able RL> AT> t
save the country.
Our education system has been working for decades to produce people who can't think for themselves and can only follow orders. When I was in
high school (and I'll be going to my 40th class reunion next month), I noticed that.
In the USA, the president has a power called "Executive Order." RL> AT> He/sh
can create a new policy in the blink of an eye. We can't call these orders "laws," but failure to obey these orders IS ILLEGAL.
Actually, it's not illegal.
An Executive Order has impact **only** to direct the parts of the Executive Branch of the gov't to do things. Laws can **only** come from
I see the tides are turning, populists are forcing countries back in
line and caring for their citizens needs first....
I am hopeful... but still skeptical...
He's killing them by subtly inviting them to the USA.
The governor of Texas should welcome them with open arms, rather
than tell his state National Guard to drown them in the Rio Grande.
That's not easy to do. Debates are fake, and they phone it in.
All we can do is vote Republican because Republicans are 4% less likely to be corrupt than Democrats.
You're right, and I understand. But I was just trying to explain to Al that Biden can sign an executive order to repair the immigration problems, but that unfortunately Biden has other plans.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-
In school they tried to push the climate agenda on us by crying about global warming, and then when we got home from school, and turned on
the tv, the media was doubling-down on the same bs stories that we
heard about in school.
They're incredibly organized.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Alan Ianson <=-
That's not easy to do. Debates are fake, and they phone it in. All we
can do is vote Republican because Republicans are 4% less likely to be corrupt than Democrats.
I am not coming to the US and if I do I will not be committing crimes.
These are migrants, not criminals.
Oh, do tell. Do you have a problem with people coming to your house and committing crimes?
Human trafficking is indeed a nastly thing. It is not the same as "border security".
Border security is a want so lets go ahead and do that, but that doesn't solve in any way, shape or form human trafficking. Even when the border "works" the way we want it too, human trafficking is still going to be a issue that also needs work.
They are two different things.
That's the way! Be optimistic, be hopeful. Positive thinking is the only thing that we've got that the leftists don't have.
These are migrants, not criminals.
They are breaking US law by entering the way that they are. If you chose to disregard US law... Drinking and Driving... Robbing Banks... Entering the country ILLEGALLY... U R a criminal.
Any administration should be protecting its citizens from an invasion such as the one we are seeing....
But this administration is keen on replacing the electorate with voters who will vote for them rather than convince the citizen that their ideas are better...
Oh, do tell. Do you have a problem with people coming to your house and
committing crimes?
I guess ... Try that in a small town...
Human trafficking is indeed a nastly thing. It is not the same as "border
security".
It is... the 89,000 kids that are missing since Biden took office have entered the broken boarder... If the boarder were secure the Elites would have to find a different way to get kids to molest.
Secure the boarder. Work on illegal drugs entering into the country. Work on stopping human trafficking... Stop illegals from coming in... not all are just looking for a better life... some are on the Terrorist Watch list... and if you can walk and chew gum at the same time ... Try to Make America Great Again.
Border security is a want so lets go ahead and do that, but that doesn't
solve in any way, shape or form human trafficking. Even when the border
"works" the way we want it too, human trafficking is still going to be a
issue that also needs work.
They are two different things.
If it's still going to be an issue let it be someone else's issue and not an American issue... UN can setup a task force...
Sick bitches bitches... What we learned from the Sound of Freedom is that the US is one of the largest consumers of this child trafficking... When Trump gets in in 2024 he should make Epstein's client list public and send out snipper teams to shoot these bitches... They should hunt these predators down and shoot them.
It's not 2 different things... cartels are exploiting the unsecured boarder and making money anyway they can.
The left and Democrats only care about abortion... Why would anyone expect the to care about the safety of children.
Are they entering illegally?
And even if they are, deal with that, lawfully.
What invasion?
It is... the 89,000 kids that are missing since Biden took office have entered the broken boarder... If the boarder were secure the Elites woul have to find a different way to get kids to molest.
Stop the spin!
What a silly statement. The whole world cares about the safety of children.
Are they entering illegally?
And even if they are, deal with that, lawfully.
They are entering illegally... And Trump said when he gets in he'll start deporting them... The legal response... He was going to start with the bad actors first.
What invasion?
Yes... South part of Chicago had a town hall the other day.. the residents of the area, mainly minorities, were complaining that they don't even have enough money to feed their children and the local government is giving free cell phones and paying the food and lodging for illegals.
A government's primary concern should be for the citizens, the constituents of their area.... The is a KEY feature of representative government...
It is... the 89,000 kids that are missing since Biden took office have
entered the broken boarder... If the boarder were secure the Elites woul >> > have to find a different way to get kids to molest.
Stop the spin!
You should care about these children who are being exploited...
What a silly statement. The whole world cares about the safety of
children.
Don't refer to it as spin...
In any case remove the inhumane death traps the Texas GOP has
constructed in the Rio Grande and stop pushing kids back into the water.
"the Elites would have to to find a different way to get kids to molest" is nothing more than spin.
Another good thing that has come out of this mess is that many people
now can see that "all" of these media outlets are actually the same - allowing our BS detectors to function correctly. So it's no longer
"NBC, ABC, CNN all say it's true, so it must be true." Now it's "The media says it's true, so I'll discount it until I can verify it."
The left and Democrats only care about abortion... Why would anyone AI> > AI> > expe
the to care about the safety of children.
What a silly statement. The whole world cares about the safety of children.
I am not coming to the US and if I do I will not be committing crimes.
These are migrants, not criminals.
They are breaking US law by entering the way that they are. If you chose to d
regard US law... Drinking and Driving... Robbing Banks... Entering the country
LLEGALLY... U R a criminal.
Any administration should be protecting its citizens from an invasion such as e one we are seeing.... But this administration is keen on replacing the elect
ate with voters who will vote for them rather than convince the citizens that eir ideas are better...
That's the responsible way to analyze it. Now, if we could just get
people to think responsibly..
In Al's world, he could witness a crime but there would be no evidence of any crime so long as the criminal is not a Republican. If it is a Republican, Al does not even have to witness it. Being Republican is evidence enough of whatever the accusation is.
I tried once asking him how he'd feel if we were allowing them in and herding them to the Canada border. He didn't seem to like that idea as much. It is ok just so long as it is only our problem, and that it is
the Republicans who don't like it.
What a silly statement. The whole world cares about the safety of
children.
You can't think or feel for the whole world.
IB Joe is right.
The Democrats fight for the right to murder babies, and they pass it off on cold-blooded scumbags as "women's rights."
For slutty women, perhaps, it's an attractive idea that they can bang as many men as they want and the good ol Democrats will protect their access to vacuum out all the adorable infant biproducts later.
In Al's world, he could witness a crime but there would be no evidence of
any crime so long as the criminal is not a Republican. If it is a Republican, Al does not even have to witness it. Being Republican is evidence enough of whatever the accusation is.
IB Joe is right.
Bzzt. Wrong.
Buzz Buzz I wasIB Joe is right.
Bzzt. Wrong.
Buzz Buzz I wasIB Joe is right.
Bzzt. Wrong.
Yes, you were wrong.
Buzz Buzz I was
Yes, you were wrong.
Nope... we even had a consensus that I was right...
Ur a Flat Earther
Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-
That's the responsible way to analyze it. Now, if we could just get
people to think responsibly..
Stacey Abrams still thinks she's the Governor of Georgia.
There is a smaller version of illegals coming to Canada... They flood the migr
ts into larger city centers. In the past, I mean my parents and grandparents me, if I migrants took the opportunity of being in Canada and they made their ves, and other citizens in the country better.
Now they get welfare for life...
In any case remove the inhumane death traps the Texas GOP has constructed in the Rio Grande and stop pushing kids back into the water.
Simple... stop sneaking in... Use the front door and avoid the walls and othe
hazards.
For slutty women, perhaps, it's an attractive idea that they can bang as many n as they want and the good ol Democrats will protect their access to vacuum o
all the adorable infant biproducts later.
And for chauvinist players, it's convenient for them because they know that if
hey accidentally get a woman pregnant, good ol Democrats already have the coat
anger unraveled, and child-support doesn't have to ruin their erection.
That's the responsible way to analyze it. Now, if we could just get people to think responsibly..
I think the fact that we can receive information outside the mainstream media is good... This is why they are mad as hell because Twitter went full free speech... you can now listen to all kinds of Blogs and
whatnot. The younger generation is Hip to all this, it's just hard(er)
to get the older people on board,,,
For slutty women, perhaps, it's an attractive idea that they can bang as men as they want and the good ol Democrats will protect their access to vacuum out all the adorable infant biproducts later.
That's is also a woman's right to choose although, that is a different issue.
Are they illegal though? I got the impression that, at times anyway, Canada has been migrating them in on purpose. I got that impression
after reading a recent article about how for years Canada had been encouraging muslim immigration only to later realize that muslims, being usually conservative, don't like a lot of the stuff that the Canadian education system has been trying to push on their children. Things like drag queen story time and other things of a sexual nature that are not meant for young children.
I can't even get my dad to give Fox News a try. The more main mainstream media has already become a fixture.
Local lies at 6PM, national lies at 6:30, and Wheel of Fortune at 7:00.
For slutty women, perhaps, it's an attractive idea that they can bang as n as they want and the good ol Democrats will protect their access to va o
all the adorable infant biproducts later.
That is a very chauvinist way to look at it.
And for chauvinist players, it's convenient for them because they know t if
hey accidentally get a woman pregnant, good ol Democrats already have th coat
anger unraveled, and child-support doesn't have to ruin their erection.
Guys who don't care are not going to be around even if she has the child so I doubt that is what they are thinking about.
I realize that my analogies seem stupid, but Democrats are smart, and somehow ey've figured out that "abortion rights" are important to a large portion of v
ers.
The part that I haven't figured out yet is why do voters care so much about pr
ecting abortion?
Men especially should be annoyed when people talk about "a woma
n's right to choose," because that means that women should have the right
to terminate a child against the wishes of the child's father.
The part that I haven't figured out yet is why do voters care so much ab pr
ecting abortion?
I think there are a lot of people who don't like abortion and would not consider it themselves, but who also don't believe it is their right to impose their beliefs on others. They would find some of the tactics of the pro-life side to be abrasive and possibly as bad as the problem itself.
Mike Powell wrote to AARON THOMAS <=-
I think there are a lot of people who don't like abortion and would not consider it themselves, but who also don't believe it is their right to impose their beliefs on others. They would find some of the tactics of the pro-life side to be abrasive and possibly as bad as the problem itself.
They also have the right to keep a child against the wishes of the
father, something that I am sure many men find as annoying.
I think the whole "women's rights" and "right to choose", etc. is a smoke screen. The real question is whether or not our tax dollars should fund it. The Elitists want another way to funnel our tax dollars into their crony's companies (i.e. Planned Parenthood).
They also have the right to keep a child against the wishes of the father, something that I am sure many men find as annoying.
Father's rights have been attacked for decades.
They also have the right to keep a child against the wishes of the
father, something that I am sure many men find as annoying.
Father's rights have been attacked for decades.
At what point does life begin??
At what point does that life have constitutional rights?
They also have the right to keep a child against the wishes of the
father, something that I am sure many men find as annoying.
Father's rights have been attacked for decades.
A father should have the ability to reject responsibility for that Child...
A woman can abort the baby without the father's consent... maybe men should
have the ability to reject responsibility??
Just saying....
They also have the right to keep a child against the wishes of the father, something that I am sure many men find as annoying.
Father's rights have been attacked for decades.
IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-
At what point does life begin?? At what point does that life have constitutional rights?
A father should have the ability to reject responsibility for that Child... A woman can abort the baby without the father's consent...
maybe men should have the ability to reject responsibility??
Just saying....
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I lived it. I have a 15 year old in Pennsylvania. The mom hasn't let me see him for more than a year now. The court judges ignore my complaints about it. They're up to something sinister. Somehow, I'm sure, there is
a benefit to leftism at the bottom of it.
At what point does life begin?? At what point does that life have constitutional rights?
And under what conditions can the rights of that new life trump the
rights of the mother?
All questions that we have been pondering for a long, long time now.
The main problem is that both of the vocal sides have long moved to opposite points of irrationality.
I think we can answer those questions, as a society, but only if we exclude the extremists.
But the Elitists are all about "Rules for thee, but not for me."
It used to be that the mother had all the responsibilities - so no one minded that she had all the rights too. But as our society changed, and we could force the father to take responsitility, the laws didn't change to provide him with rights to go those responsibilities.
I think there are a lot of people who don't like abortion and would not consider it themselves, but who also don't believe it is their right to impose their beliefs on others. They would find some of the tactics of the pro-life side to be abrasive and possibly as bad as the problem itself.
Decent people would probably agree with that. I just hope that they will also ree that there are bigger problems at hand than abortion rights. I have anxiet
about people casting ballots for all the wrong reasons.
I believe that most people are in the camp of "it's a personal choice". But it
also means that most people believe that our tax dollars should **not** fund >it.
I think the whole "women's rights" and "right to choose", etc. is a smoke screen. The real question is whether or not our tax dollars should fund it. The Elitists want another way to funnel our tax dollars into their crony's companies (i.e. Planned Parenthood).
They also have the right to keep a child against the wishes of the father, something that I am sure many men find as annoying.
Father's rights have been attacked for decades.
If the Republicans had stuck with the "it's bad, but we have bigger problems to worry about right now" stance of the Reagan/Bush years, only your far-left fear mongers would be making a big deal about it on
election day.
The left argue for unfeathered access to abortion... A mother who is crownin >because the baby is coming out.... She can say F@#K IT.... I changed my mind..
Partial birth abortions were all to common place...
They have to dismember the baby while still in the womb so tha
woman's vagina. Fully grown babies are being butchered at times just days before natural childbirth would occur.
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I think we can answer those questions, as a society, but only if we exclude the extremists.
Sitting on the fence looking down on the situation talking about things
in a philosophic namer.... Ohhh... we just need to eliminate the
rights of others to voice their opinions... Yup...screw their first amendment rights... because I think they are too extreme...
I saw a video where a woman was explaining why it's better to have 6 baby-daddies rather than having 1 baby-daddy for 6 children.... and she argued that her income is based off 6 different men's income and as a result it is more lucrative for her..
I have a 13 year old female in the house... and I am worried that
society will get a grip on her...
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A family member brought up this topic during a discussion yesterday.
His point, which I agree with, is that the Republicans have gone too
far to prove that they are far-right when it comes to this topic. They have defined it as a central part of their platform.
Gone are the days when candidates were only asked their abortion
stance. The Republicans have gone from being just pro-life to a much
more aggressive stance, one where they have defined it as a "big
problem" that has a high priority of needing a fix.
If the Republicans had stuck with the "it's bad, but we have bigger problems to worry about right now" stance of the Reagan/Bush years,
only your far-left fear mongers would be making a big deal about it on election day.
When I say "extremists", I'm talking in a general sense of people who
can never find common ground with others.
ex: I think that the vast majority of people will agree that once the
baby is outside and living without assistance, it's "alive" and has all rights. But the extremists I'm talking about will not agree to that.
Another example: the people who believe that abortion is 100% wrong are also extremists. What happens if the mother's life is in danger because of the pregnancy?
That's why I say that, as a society, we can determine the question about abortion. It won't satisfy the extremists, but they are free to live their own lives in their own way - or leave our society.
I have a 13 year old female in the house... and I am worried that society will get a grip on her...
You are not the only parent who feels that way today.
It's the same thing with the transgender stuff. Not a single Republican should >all for it, but they take the bait, and then they're on TV giving off negative >ibes to trans people. Not a good idea!
I want my country fixed and I want safety restored. Ask me if I care about abor
ion or guys playing on girls' teams at this point. I wish I could cc Trump abou
this, because I have a feeling that he hasn't figured this out yet.
Gone are the days when candidates were only asked their abortion
stance. The Republicans have gone from being just pro-life to a much more aggressive stance, one where they have defined it as a "big problem" that has a high priority of needing a fix.
IHMO: The Abortion issue is just a distratction to keep people away from asking
the Elitists stands on the economy and such (that they fail miserably at).
Completely agree. Candidates should just say "it's a personal issue" and refuse to say any more on it.
Where the left has taken abortion.... The last Governor of Virginia was being terviewed for the race he lost... and he was talking about how to abort an alr
dy born baby... postnatal abortion... Rights of the mother?? Gavin Newsom was ving similar conversation as the ex Governor of Virginia was having... Postnat
abortions... The baby is outside of the mother at that time...
At what point does the child rights supersedes the mother's rights... I don't n't know the exact point... but there must be a point at some point... I am no
a hard line pro lifer... Is there a time during the pregnancy where you could d it... sure... There is a time during the pregnancy resembles a clump of tis
e as appose to a fully developed human being...
I was watching a video where a girl was talking about her friend at college. parently her friend was doing some Alphabet challenge.... So the object of the
ame is to get a guy and have coitus with him based on the letter of his first me... (A)lbert, (B)ret, (C)hristopher... and so on... then she said her girlfr
nd got pregnant by the letter P... She never did say what she did with the ba
... This female sounds pretty irresponsible... if she had an abortion it proba
y wasn't done in the first trimester but rather it was postnatal or partial bi
h.
I saw a video where a woman was explaining why it's better to have 6 baby-dadd
s rather than having 1 baby-daddy for 6 children.... and she argued that her i
ome is based off 6 different men's income and as a result it is more lucrative
or her..
I have a 13 year old female in the house... and I am worried that society will
et a grip on her...
Yes, they both take that too far, but I do wonder if it is not bait to catch Republicans and get them reacting to it.
I would say when they'd not be viable outside the womb. And, by viable,
I would say that means they can live and breathe on their own without
life support, be fed orally, and do other things that many premies who live normal lives can do.
If they have to be kept on a machine in order to force them to be alive, then no they are not viable.
I sort of doubt that. She want to get back to having fun without showing off a baby bump.
On the other hand, some of that bait was pretty serious. We really don't need illustrated sex fiction in elementary and jr high libraries, but it was.
I don't have kids but being an uncle to several young ladies, that one triggers me some, too. I don't think it is fair for a washed-up or never-been male competitor to decide they are a female (after enjoying
the benefits of male puberty) and stealing opportunites from biological women.
But I do think they need to downplay it during their campaigns. Some Republicans are using those trigger topics to play to their base, but
they need instead to find things that affect us all (like the cost of
food and other basic necessities) and focus on that.
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I would say when they'd not be viable outside the womb. And, by
viable, I would say that means they can live and breathe on their own without life support, be fed orally, and do other things that many
premies who live normal lives can do.
If they have to be kept on a machine in order to force them to be
alive, then no they are not viable.
IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-
Prior to Roe V Wade being overturned there was no way to argue for the baby's rights...
I have no problem with factions arguing things out... If it weren't for the pro-life community not backing down, playing the long-game, these babies might not have a chance...
It's funny... There is a stat out there that show over 70+ % of
Americans support a woman's right to choose... The left love to talk
about that number... It's not until you look into that a little deeper that you understand it better...
The only way to shut the left up on the abortion issue is to take the
tax payer's money away... Problem solved!!!
It's funny to hear soooooooooo many lefties say that they'll move to Canada every time a Republican gets voted in... and they never do...
All I have to do is shoot one of them, gentleman callers, in the leg... and the word will get out... HAHAHA... My oldest daughter is turning
39 this September... Never a fear... Youngest daughter... 13... has
never gave me a reason to be fearful... But because of how sick our society is... I worry constantly.
Roe vs. Wade did nothing more than move the abortion issue from the
states to the federal level. It allowed the Elitists to more easily
push their agenda since they only had 1 venue, not 50, to contest things.
That is by design. The Elitists want to break people into groups. It's called "divide and conquer". Many tyrants have used this method. Abortion is simply another way to divide people.
I am sceptical of any number brought out by the Elitists.
I think most people (on both sides of the debate) would agree that tax dollars should **not** be used.
It's funny to hear soooooooooo many lefties say that they'll move to Canada every time a Republican gets voted in... and they never do...
Because things are even worse there.
I don't have kids but being an uncle to several young ladies, that one triggers me some, too. I don't think it is fair for a washed-up or never-been male competitor to decide they are a female (after enjoying the benefits of male puberty) and stealing opportunites from biological women.
Try to ignore it. It's bait. Every school (maybe I'm right about this) has the
own autonomy over those kinds of issues.
But I do think they need to downplay it during their campaigns. Some Republicans are using those trigger topics to play to their base, but they need instead to find things that affect us all (like the cost of food and other basic necessities) and focus on that.
That's logical, but maybe they need to use the trigger language a little in or
r to get idiots to go out and vote.
If they have to be kept on a machine in order to force them to be
alive, then no they are not viable.
Be careful with that last statement. Do you mean that they must never
depend on a machine to stay alive, or that they would always need to be
on a life support machine to stay alive. Many premies need neonatal
machines for a period of time and then can be taken off them and live
without such support. I would call that viable, and past the time when abortion should be allowed (if that is all of the relevant facts).
Prior to Roe V Wade being overturned there was no way to argue IJ>for thebaby's rights...
Roe vs. Wade did nothing more than move the abortion issue from the states to the federal level.
It allowed the Elitists to more easily push their agenda
since they only had 1 venue, not 50, to contest things.
I have no problem with factions arguing things out... If it weren't for
the pro-life community not backing down, playing the long-game, these
babies might not have a chance...
And it forces the anti-abortion community to take as extreme a stance as the
pro-abortion community. Hence the inability to find common ground and settle this once and for all.
That is by design.
IB Joe wrote to Ron L. <=-
story lines... OR... we can celebrate the victories and move to the
next conquest.
I read an article about how the left is using the same tactics today as Marx did back in 1917.. <---I think that was the date, I might be off
by a year... I agree 100% with the article... Marx had an easy target
in his day... The working class struggled... It was easy to point that
out and gin up the crowed, overthrow the government and install your communist utopia, which BTW works EVERY TIME it's installed... Lenin
one time commented on the fact that the middle class growth and the expansion of wealth he observed in the US was unforeseen in his
economic model.
It todays time the Marxist model cannot use the same economic model
Marx used... Most Americans, and people in the Western World were
happy, for the most part, living their dreams out... So they had to
come up with different ways to separate us into different groups...
Skin color, Gender... The list goes on and on... and then agitate us
and work their Voodoo on us.
Ron, I don't disagree with you on the elite issue... I gust sense a
tone that there is nothing we can do... And that's where we differ. I
see the tides turning a little...
As a result... I am cautiously optimistic about the future... The
Elites may run the media... but independent news sources out there are
out telling the truth... Tucker, Megan Kelly ... et al.
exercised here... Texas celebrated 10,0000 babies being born since Roe was tu
ed over... That may be insignificant to the likes of people who are stuck on a
nda driven story lines... OR... we can celebrate the victories and move to the
ext conquest.
It todays time the Marxist model cannot use the same economic model Marx used.
Most Americans, and people in the Western World were happy, for the most part
living their dreams out... So they had to come up with different ways to separ
e us into different groups... Skin color, Gender... The list goes on and on...
nd then agitate us and work their Voodoo on us.
Ron, heres an article that popped up while I was writing to you... In it had a
ew things I was thinking about while I was formulating my ideas. Anyway, Mitc
McConnell was heckled for over 5 minutes during a speech in his home state... ey were telling him to retire... Pence was heckled while on the campaign trail
. telling him he was a sellout... List goes on...
It's funny to hear soooooooooo many lefties say that they'll move to
Canada every time a Republican gets voted in... and they never do...
Because things are even worse there.
They'll LOVE Trudeau... Metro-Sexual idiot... Wife just left him.... She claim
she prefers men, apparently just like Obama.
My point was that the reversal of Roe Vs. Wade made it harder for the Elitists to push their agenda. Now abortion is not a "right" and must
be fought on the state level.
Yup. Even Marx was confused when the working class didn't rise up.
But Marx had never worked a day in his life, so didn't understand that economic prosperity brings EVERYONE up.
Hitler did something similar during WWII to split up groups in Germany. It made it much easier for the Nazis to control people.
And we all know about the Democrats' and Nazis' mutual respect. But not even the Nazis wanted to go as far as the Democrats.
I want to make people aware of what's going on in the background.
It's easy for a doctor to see the symptom, for example, but to heal the patient he needs to understand the cause. If he just treats the
symptom, then the patient feels better for a while, but the root illness is still there.
People like Biden and Pelosi are the symptoms. I tend to treat them like Zaphod Beelblebrox from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. "As President of the Galaxy, his responsibility in that position was to draw attention away from the true rulers of the universe. To that end, Zaphod and his outrageous behaviour were highly successful."
We need to handle the symptoms, but we also need to watch for the cause and eliminate that too.
As a result... I am cautiously optimistic about the future... The Elites may run the media... but independent news sources out there ar out telling the truth... Tucker, Megan Kelly ... et al.
I'm optimistic too. But those people are the symptoms. The real
problems aren't in the public eye.
And, sadly, for most people, it's "out of sight, out of mind".
What is the proof that all 10,000 would not have been born had it not
been overturned?
Something of note here. I saw a video yesterday of a person who was lamenting that the voices/actions of a few radical "T's" is threatening
to separate the LGBTQ community into different groups as others in the group get tired of those few.
I not only wonder but suspect that maybe they are experiencing the same forces of separation that society as a whole is.
Mitch was likely heckled by those who would never support a Republican... the same ones who'd want him to retire -- so they can replace him with a Democrat -- even if he was the perfect picture of health. That has been going on here for years.
Some of them likely would, but they would miss causing discord in their native US, what with their freedom of speech being curtailed in their new home.
Mike Powell wrote to IB JOE <=-
Some of them likely would, but they would miss causing discord in their native US, what with their freedom of speech being curtailed in their
new home.
IB Joe wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-
This is why I say send the homeless and illegal immigrants to Martha's Vineyard and the Hollywood Hills... and all the other places they frequent. Lets have these people poop on their yards and do crime on their properties.... Ohhhhh and take away their security and confiscate their guns so they can't defend themselves.... If this would be the
case the problem would be solved in a day..
It won't happen.
1. The Elitists are always "Rules for thee, but not for me." So they certainly won't follow the rules they set up for others.
2. Their Narrative is true. No matter how much evidence to the contrary.
I didn't do a full deep dive on this... I suspect they got the number here... bunch of abortion clinics shut down... They are not open for business and are t killing babies... So if you add up the numbers of abortions that haven't don
since Roe was overturned it might add up to 10,0000.
I don't see a problem with people kicking people out of the community. This ha
gotten WAY to stupid... Trans activists are trying to cram their agenda down ev
eryones throats and push this on people's children.
I think this is all part of the Marxist ploy to overthrow the US... but that'
a whole different message thread.
Some of them likely would, but they would miss causing discord in their native US, what with their freedom of speech being curtailed in their new
home.
Trudeau will fix that quickly... Jail term or big fines... His biological fat
r would be so proud as to what he's done to Canada.
I don't see an issue with disassociating with individuals. I do have
some empathy towards those who I might find odd because they are trans
but who are otherwise very sensible people. I don't see why they should be shunned out of a community just because some dumbasses, that they
don't agree with, are causing trouble.
I actually think that is on topic here because that is what is going
on... maybe not to overthrow but to cause something. That would explain
a lot, and those same forces, which are working against society as a whole, are probably the same ones working against the smaller LGBTQ community.
Divide us all and then conquer.
Yeah, I think they'd realize they needed to come back. That is sad, in the sense that Canada used to be a neighbor that seemed like a good alternative but Trudeau has really done a number on the country. At
least it is still beautiful, outside the cities.
Exactly... Trump says that Pro-Lifers have bargaining power now, where as they didn't during the Roe era.
I love it when the constitution wins... Amendment 10 you rule..
Thank you for your clarification.
I don't see an issue with disassociating with individuals. I do havetrans
some empathy towards those who I might find odd because they are
but who are otherwise very sensible people. I don't see why theyshould
be shunned out of a community just because some dumbasses, that they
don't agree with, are causing trouble.
I don't know... We have a lesbian in our house ... if some grown ass man who
claimed to be a woman and then claimed to be a lesbian told her to suck his/her organic dick... They/them might have a problem.
There was a time when the group was AMERICAN...
Now the left has taken on the Marxist model everything is one group or an other and then they pit each other against each other to cause division amongst the collective.
If the Trans community does not want to be represented by the extremes within their community they should just speak out.... The LGB people in that community are doing exactly that... Telling everyone it's NOT OKAY to be forcing you ideology down everyone's throat...
This hearkens back to the Bud Light issue...
Most people don't care what you do with your life...
or who you have sex with...
For the most part...
People are just getting tired of being told what to think...
Budweiser should have came out early with an apology to their base customers. They should have simply said they made an error and that error is simple... Keep out of Politics and Religion... Furthermore, they should have said... Dress in whatever clothes you want... Be whatever sex you want.... and more importantly... have sex with whomever you want... All we ask you is that you drink our beer while doing it.
IB Joe wrote to Mike Powell <=-
There was a time when the group was AMERICAN... Now the left has taken
on the Marxist model everything is one group or an other and then they
pit each other against each other to cause division amongst the collective.
If the Trans community does not want to be represented by the extremes within their community they should just speak out.
This hearkens back to the Bud Light issue... Most people don't care
what you do with your life... or who you have sex with... For the most part... People are just getting tired of being told what to think...
Budweiser should have came out early with an apology to their base customers. They should have simply said they made an error and that
error is simple... Keep out of Politics and Religion... Furthermore,
they should have said... Dress in whatever clothes you want... Be
whatever sex you want.... and more importantly... have sex with
whomever you want... All we ask you is that you drink our beer while
doing it.
This could be why Trudeau is trying to make independent News illegal in Chinada.
If the Trans community does not want to be represented by the extremes within their community they should just speak out.
But that would make the rabid ones go after them, and they are afraid.
Pete Buttigieg is also a man. And married. To another man. I am not
quite sure which of them is the husband and which one is the wife.
Maybe both are husbands or both are wives. Really doesn't matter to
me. Either way, both have been the same person they have always been,
But Bud went woke and green lighted all this. They have no one to blame but themselves.
The question is whether or not other companies pay attention and de-Woke before they self-destruct too.
Pete Buttigieg is also a man. And married. To another man. I am not
quite sure which of them is the husband and which one is the wife.
In the Fox News comments section, people refer to Buttigieg as Pete "The Wife" Buttigieg. I think it's because he talks about his husband
too much.
Maybe both are husbands or both are wives. Really doesn't matter to
me. Either way, both have been the same person they have always been,
I think it's more polite to think of him Pete "The Unprecedented Quantity of
Train Wrecks" Buttigieg.
IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-
This is funny I read that Budweiser had to sell off a bunch of craft
beer companies to help pay the bills... Not sure if they'll ever recover...
BTW, funny note... I don't think Disney is getting it. They recently came out with a Minni Mouse dress line and they hired a trans-gender to model and promote the dress line.
An other funny note... They arrested a 16 year old boy because he said some female cop looked like a lesbian... I saw the photo of her... not saying myself publicly.... BUT what the hell is going on... arresting a
16 YO...
An other funny note... They arrested a 16 year old boy because he said some fe
le cop looked like a lesbian... I saw the photo of her... not saying myself p
licly.... BUT what the hell is going on... arresting a 16 YO...
An other funny note... They arrested a 16 year old boy because he said some female cop looked like a lesbian... I saw the photo of her... not saying myself publicly.... BUT what the hell is going on... arresting a 16 YO...
A 16-year old boy with autism (i.e. no filter).
Reminds me of the Emperor's New Clothes:
Yup. Disney is done. They pissed off the mama bears. Bad idea.
Bud and Disney will slowly die and their properties will be sold off or die off.
Where did that happen?
Train Wrecks" Buttigieg.
As long as they are happy together, what does it matter to you?
Or why should it? Are you happy with the one you love? Of course
you are. So why should either of them be denied being with the
one they love?
Being from Florida... Disney is/was an icon there... I use to live ~1.5 hours away. I went to Disney soooooooooo many times... family would
come down and want to go... I heard "It's a small world after all" Soooooooooooo many times I swore to god I was going to loose. I
survived my numerous trips.
IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-
Being from Florida... Disney is/was an icon there...
Train Wrecks" Buttigieg.
As long as they are happy together, what does it matter to you?
Or why should it? Are you happy with the one you love? Of course
you are. So why should either of them be denied being with the
one they love?
How do you know that they're happy together?
How would you like it if your husband was responsible for more train wrecks
than he has fingers to count them with?
As long as they are happy together, what does it matter to you?
Or why should it? Are you happy with the one you love? Of course
you are. So why should either of them be denied being with the
one they love?
Love conguers all.Yeah it's all fun and games until one or both gets a STD, or worse AIDS. queers.
IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-
Being from Florida... Disney is/was an icon there...
With the woke-ness coming out, plus ripping the mask away from the whole Reedy Marsh mess I think has put some tarnish on that icon.
Like everything it seems, good people set it up and grow it, then the Elitists infiltrate it and wreck it.
As long as they are happy together, what does it matter to you?
Or why should it? Are you happy with the one you love? Of course
you are. So why should either of them be denied being with the
one they love?
It's Adam & Eve, not Adam & Steve.
Love conguers all.
Yeah it's all fun and games until one or both gets a STD, or worse AIDS. queers.
How would you like it if your husband was responsible for more train wrecks
than he has fingers to count them with?
That's what happens when both play with their choo-choos on the same railway tracks.
trainHow would you like it if your husband was responsible for more
wrecks
than he has fingers to count them with?
That's what happens when both play with their choo-choos on the same
railway tracks.
Not all gay guys are dumb asses. Just the ones that vote for Democrats.
Not all gay guys are dumb asses. Just the ones that vote for Democrat
Log Cabin Republicans vote for Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders?
And all other Democrats? My, my. Almost like Twisted Sister.
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