• MTG

    From IB Joe@1:342/200 to All on Fri Dec 1 10:14:36 2023
    https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1730360809522401522?s=20

    So, I just listened to MTG & Tucker... Insightful to say the least... For you Blue Haired folk... Nothing to see here... But for those who believe there is a ruling class that do not give a crap about the American citizens... For those who believe there is an Military Industrial Complex... The Deep State... And What-Not!!!!

    Grab your tinfoil hat and get yourself a tall glass of Kool-Aide and listen to a spectacular episode of Tucker.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Sat Dec 2 10:28:00 2023
    So, I just listened to MTG & Tucker... Insightful to say the least... For you B
    ue Haired folk... Nothing to see here... But for those who believe there is a >uling class that do not give a crap about the American citizens... For those wh
    believe there is an Military Industrial Complex... The Deep State... And What-N
    ot!!!!

    There are blue haired folk who believe there is a ruling class and a
    Military Industrial Complex. They just believe that the persons in said
    ruling class somehow don't include the very rich Democrat party donors. ;)


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Sat Dec 2 09:49:53 2023
    On 02 Dec 2023, Mike Powell said the following...


    There are blue haired folk who believe there is a ruling class and a Military Industrial Complex. They just believe that the persons in said ruling class somehow don't include the very rich Democrat party donors.
    ;)


    Bernie Sanders?? He enriched himself during the election process... paid his wife millions as a staffer. Where is this Democrat that hasn't have rich donors attached to them... Never mind Democrat, politician whatever flavor... MTG in the interview with Tucker talks about this exact topic... She raises money one dollar at a time... because lobbyists want nothing to do with h, and her with them. We should get rid of these lobbyists and get the candidates to work for their fund raising.

    There are no Democrats in todays party that hold old JFK style liberal values... They are all Globalists, War Mongers, Neo-Socialists and whatnot...

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sun Dec 3 09:17:58 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    Bernie Sanders?? He enriched himself during the election process...
    paid his wife millions as a staffer. Where is this Democrat that
    hasn't have rich donors attached to them... Never mind Democrat, politician whatever flavor... MTG in the interview with Tucker talks
    about this exact topic... She raises money one dollar at a time...
    because lobbyists want nothing to do with h, and her with them. We
    should get rid of these lobbyists and get the candidates to work for
    their fund raising.

    Thomas Sowell made a compelling argument to pay congress critters $10 million a year and pay all campaign fees, then not allow any donations period.

    That eliminates the campaign "war chest". That eliminates being beholden to people who donate. They finish their term with $40-60 million dollars in the bank - enough to comfortably live off of for the rest of their lives without any kind of "help" from donors.

    And $10 million/year per congress critter really wouldn't impact the budget either.

    My argument against this is that while it reduces incentive to bribe and such. For the people who are power hungry, it won't do anything. And that's our real problem right now.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Sun Dec 3 09:39:32 2023
    On 03 Dec 2023, Ron L. said the following...


    Thomas Sowell made a compelling argument to pay congress critters $10 million a year and pay all campaign fees, then not allow any donations period.

    That eliminates the campaign "war chest". That eliminates being
    beholden to people who donate. They finish their term with $40-60
    million dollars in the bank - enough to comfortably live off of for the rest of their lives without any kind of "help" from donors.

    And $10 million/year per congress critter really wouldn't impact the budget either.

    My argument against this is that while it reduces incentive to bribe and such. For the people who are power hungry, it won't do anything. And that's our real problem right now.


    They have restrictive election laws in Chinada... Some years ago a member of parliament from my hometown lost his seat because he used some of his own money during his reelection... It was a small sum of money in comparison to US politics none the less... He was going to fight it... The PM at the time said he was going to table a vote to remove his pension... and he ran like a little bitch. BTW, said person even spent a couple months in jail on crime.

    Can you imagine if the US dealt with their elected officials in the same manner... They'd need to build a bigger prison to house them.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Mon Dec 4 07:25:51 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Can you imagine if the US dealt with their elected officials in the
    same manner...

    It would be nice. But the campaign finance laws are only used against the oppononents of the Elitists (ex: Dinesh D'Souza).

    They'd need to build a bigger prison to house them.

    Since most have committed treason, they wouldn't need to house them very long.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Mon Dec 4 07:26:54 2023
    On 04 Dec 2023, Ron L. said the following...


    Can you imagine if the US dealt with their elected officials in the same manner...

    It would be nice. But the campaign finance laws are only used against
    the oppononents of the Elitists (ex: Dinesh D'Souza).


    That's right so when Trump gets back in office and gets his DOJ to prosecute the rule of law there should be no comp[laints.


    They'd need to build a bigger prison to house them.

    Since most have committed treason, they wouldn't need to house them very long.


    Interesting.... We can take that angle... And since the Democrats have trampled all over the constitution Trump should do so with the 22nd amendment.

    GBG...

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Tue Dec 5 07:46:42 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    That's right so when Trump gets back in office and gets his DOJ to prosecute the rule of law there should be no comp[laints.

    There will always be complaints from the Elitists. They think that they are above the law.

    Interesting.... We can take that angle... And since the Democrats have trampled all over the constitution Trump should do so with the 22nd amendment.

    Well, that Amendment was added by FDR to keep people from undoing the mess that he caused over 4 terms.

    But I don't think Trump would want more than 4 more years. It makes more sense for him to come in, start trashing the Deep State and showing everyone what a swamp it is. Then have someone younger come into complete the job.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Tue Dec 5 09:42:00 2023
    But I don't think Trump would want more than 4 more years. It makes more sense
    for him to come in, start trashing the Deep State and showing everyone what a >swamp it is. Then have someone younger come into complete the job.

    Hopefully he picks a good VP candidate who will appeal to voters.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Tue Dec 5 10:15:03 2023
    On 05 Dec 2023, Ron L. said the following...


    Well, that Amendment was added by FDR to keep people from undoing the
    mess that he caused over 4 terms.

    But I don't think Trump would want more than 4 more years. It makes
    more sense for him to come in, start trashing the Deep State and showing everyone what a swamp it is. Then have someone younger come into
    complete the job.


    I'm sure Trump can get done what he needs to in 4 years... he doesn't need 16. If they don't JFK him or do the same thing the CIA did to Nixon... Trump needs to get rid of the Department of Education, send it back to the states and local government to run. He needs to purge the DOJ and FBI whereby he decentralizes the FBI. There has to be an open process of J6 where records aren't destroyed right after the report is released... The list goes on and on...

    If Trump only does 1 term we need a fighter like him... Vivek ... Vivek for VP and Vivek for president 2028.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Wed Dec 6 07:25:05 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I'm sure Trump can get done what he needs to in 4 years... he doesn't
    need 16.

    Probably not. But the Elitists will fight him every step of the way. Trump can probably do a good chunk in 4 years, but much of it will be tied up in legal BS.

    If Trump only does 1 term we need a fighter like him... Vivek ... Vivek for VP and Vivek for president 2028.

    I'm uncertain about Vivek. I need to see more of how he would function. And the VP position would certainly let us see that.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Wed Dec 6 07:05:26 2023
    On 06 Dec 2023, Ron L. said the following...


    I'm sure Trump can get done what he needs to in 4 years... he doesn't need 16.

    Probably not. But the Elitists will fight him every step of the way. Trump can probably do a good chunk in 4 years, but much of it will be
    tied up in legal BS.


    I remain optimistic, I see the populist movement spreading around the world. I think because of todays technology the globalists are finding it hard to hide their agenda.

    I don't think Trump will be able to undo the dept of the globalists infiltration into our government... We need an other America First candidate to follow to put the death nail into that coffin.


    If Trump only does 1 term we need a fighter like him... Vivek ... Viv for VP and Vivek for president 2028.

    I'm uncertain about Vivek. I need to see more of how he would function. And the VP position would certainly let us see that.


    I too am skeptical about Vivek.... not as skeptical about what Democrat would do if they were elected... They are all commies and hate the US and the citizens of the US.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Thu Dec 7 07:45:09 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I remain optimistic, I see the populist movement spreading around the world. I think because of todays technology the globalists are finding
    it hard to hide their agenda.

    The scamdemic certainly made them much more overt than they usually are.

    I don't think Trump will be able to undo the dept of the globalists infiltration into our government... We need an other America First candidate to follow to put the death nail into that coffin.

    Any many years of us paying close attention to the candidates for many offices.

    I too am skeptical about Vivek.... not as skeptical about what Democrat would do if they were elected... They are all commies and hate the US
    and the citizens of the US.

    I don't believe that most of them hate us. I think that they simply don't care. They think that they are above everyone else and that they are entitled to get a large slice of the pie, so to speak, even though they do nothing.

    That, of course, doesn't mean that none of them hate us. But I think that, to the most of the Elitists, the plebes are nothing more than sheep.

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