Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

They don't even have hot girls anymore. It used to be at least
something to look at. I guess it's not politically correct for women to
be attractive.

I remember those days. But hot girls doing news is also a warning to me. "What are they trying to distract me from?" Also, it's a sign that people aren't watching as much and they are trying to boose ratings.

It annoys me even more because this guy is a 1st term newbie who looks like he just finished high school, and all he can do is old tricks.
Don't they teach them anything new at Soros University?

They don't teach. They program.
They also don't have any self-awareness, so they can't see that what they do isn't working.

Something very odd about their little protest yesterday is that it was
a tiny group of people (maybe 20 at the most) they all had signs, and
the media was there at just the right time to get a view of them to
show on TV. I'd like to find out who organizes these clearly planned protests so that I could shed some light on them.

Nothing about their protests are organic. They are all staged.

So in my little town a few days ago, there was a Trump protest. Of course right outside the Woke library. It was appearant that none of these people were locals. We got close enough to read (and laugh at) their professionally printed signs and then walked away. But no real crowd - maybe a few people asking "what's going on?"


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They don't even have hot girls anymore. It used to be at least something to look at. I guess it's not politically correct for women be attractive.

I remember those days. But hot girls doing news is also a warning to
me. "What are they trying to distract me from?" Also, it's a sign that people aren't watching as much and they are trying to boose ratings.

It's not just their looks though. These new people on the local news just don't seem very professional anymore.

It annoys me even more because this guy is a 1st term newbie who look like he just finished high school, and all he can do is old tricks. Don't they teach them anything new at Soros University?

They don't teach. They program.
They also don't have any self-awareness, so they can't see that what
they do isn't working.

That sounds true, but their "success" depends on how stupid their constituents are (on the subject of freshman US Reps.)

protests so that I could shed some light on them.

Nothing about their protests are organic. They are all staged.

So in my little town a few days ago, there was a Trump protest. Of
course right outside the Woke library. It was appearant that none of these people were locals. We got close enough to read (and laugh at) their professionally printed signs and then walked away. But no real crowd - maybe a few people asking "what's going on?"

These people had professional looking signs too. Can you imagine how stupid people look when they stand outside the welfare office with a small protest group? Even if I was on their side of the issue, I'd be embarrassed to be on the news protesting -in front of the welfare office- for "a threat against handouts."

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

My wife is an avid facebooker, and she's in the midst of an online argument with some guy from a labor union who is "leading" a protest against the perceived threat of the USPS being privatized.

Ya, the postal workers don't like that idea. They might have to actually put in a full day's work for once.

I remember back in the mid/late 1990's when Perot Systems was starting and their first big contract was to privatize the USPS. The postal union (why are they allowed to exist?) came out in force against that.

and she asked the perfect question: "Do your members know that you're spending their union dues on a protest over something that didn't even happen yet?"

It's their usual preemptive strike. There's talks about privatizing the USPS, but no real plans.

IHMO: The USPS should have been privatized decades ago.


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and she asked the perfect question: "Do your members know that you're spending
their union dues on a protest over something that didn't even happen yet?"

We're still waiting to see what he says about that. hehe

Protesting something after it happens is usually too late.


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My wife is an avid facebooker, and she's in the midst of an online argument with some guy from a labor union who is "leading" a protest against the perceived threat of the USPS being privatized.

Ya, the postal workers don't like that idea. They might have to
actually put in a full day's work for once.

It's annoying to hear people complain about losing their job when it's a job that nobody needs them to do in the first place.

"I've been a bathroom attendant for USAID for 30 years! What am I gonna do now!?"

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and she asked the perfect question: "Do your members know that you're spending
their union dues on a protest over something that didn't even happen yet

We're still waiting to see what he says about that. hehe

Protesting something after it happens is usually too late.

Sometimes businesses have to close in order to do what's best for the owners of the business, and that's exactly what might be happening in this case. And it's happened to me twice.

Instead of protesting, they should communicate with their US reps about it. Because what can their protest actually do for them?

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

It's annoying to hear people complain about losing their job when it's
a job that nobody needs them to do in the first place.

But it's the old Union propaganda: You owned that job. It was YOURS. They took it away from you.

When, in reality, none of that was true.

"I've been a bathroom attendant for USAID for 30 years! What am I gonna
do now!?"

And the correct answer is: No one cares.


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Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-

Sometimes businesses have to close in order to do what's best for the owners of the business, and that's exactly what might be happening in
this case. And it's happened to me twice.

But in Mike's make believe world of Leftie-Land, businesses exist to feed and clothe the poor.

It's only in reality that businesses exist to make money for their owners.

Instead of protesting, they should communicate with their US reps about it. Because what can their protest actually do for them?

Nothing. Protests do absolutely nothing.

That's why Lefties like them. The protests are as useless as Lefties are.


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It's annoying to hear people complain about losing their job when it' a job that nobody needs them to do in the first place.

But it's the old Union propaganda: You owned that job. It was YOURS. They took it away from you.

When, in reality, none of that was true.

Right. If you don't like it, then call your union rep so that he/she/they can take $1000 of your money and spend it on a protest ;)

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and she asked the perfect question: "Do your members know that you're spending
their union dues on a protest over something that didn't even happen ye

We're still waiting to see what he says about that. hehe

Protesting something after it happens is usually too late.

Sometimes businesses have to close in order to do what's best for the owners o
the business, and that's exactly what might be happening in this case. And it'
happened to me twice.

The difference being that the government is not a business. The post
office was never meant to be a money making venture. Neither were the
national parks but, guess what, in their case they actually do make money.
Yet DOGE decided to screw with them also.

Instead of protesting, they should communicate with their US reps about it. Because what can their protest actually do for them?

You don't think their reps will notice the protest?


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happened to me twice.

The difference being that the government is not a business. The post office was never meant to be a money making venture. Neither were the national parks but, guess what, in their case they actually do make
money. Yet DOGE decided to screw with them also.

Look at the debt, look at the waste, look at how bad politicians have turned our own money into weapons that hurt us. Time is limited. 4 years goes by fast when you have a great president. We need to hurry it up and some mistakes will surely be made along the way.

Instead of protesting, they should communicate with their US reps about Because what can their protest actually do for them?

You don't think their reps will notice the protest?

I doubt it! When's the last time you've seen a US rep notice something? Or more importantly: When's the last time you've seen a US rep do anything that was worth the $250k paycheck that we give them year after year?

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The difference being that the government is not a business. The post office was never meant to be a money making venture. Neither were the national parks but, guess what, in their case they actually do make money. Yet DOGE decided to screw with them also.

Look at the debt, look at the waste, look at how bad politicians have turned our own money into weapons that hurt us. Time is limited. 4 years goes by fast
when you have a great president. We need to hurry it up and some mistakes will
surely be made along the way.

They are making more mistakes than they are identifying actual waste. They
had time to assemble a competent, experienced team before the inaguration,
but instead went with Elon and his tech flunkies. They have found a few things... things like centralizing IT purchases... that anyone could have found.

The rest of it sounds like someone's hand-picked list of things they don't
like and want to try to get rid of that, because they are doing so
illegally, they have so far had to reinstate, wasting time and even more
money.

If they continue like this, in those short 4 years they will have wasted
more than they've saved. There is no situation where that is a good thing.

Instead of protesting, they should communicate with their US reps about
Because what can their protest actually do for them?

You don't think their reps will notice the protest?

I doubt it! When's the last time you've seen a US rep notice something? Or mor
importantly: When's the last time you've seen a US rep do anything that was worth the $250k paycheck that we give them year after year?

When was the last time you contacted, or attempted to contact, your rep and
got ignored? You've complained about it at least once, if not several
times.

At least the protests are getting the attention of the press.


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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

Right. If you don't like it, then call your union rep so that
he/she/they can take $1000 of your money and spend it on a protest ;)

Yup. It's a big scam. Unions only protect bad workers. Good workers don't need Union "protection".


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Hey Ron!

On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 07:18:30 -0400, you wrote:

Right. If you don't like it, then call your union rep so that
he/she/they can take $1000 of your money and spend it on a protest
;)

Yup. It's a big scam. Unions only protect bad workers. Good workers don't need Union "protection".

To be fair, you're probably correct. Good workers don't need their union's protection. They stay working all year around, and are never laid off.. so they can enjoy the large bump in pay, benefits, and safety procedures over non-union contractors.

The difference between good and bad workers, is that bad workers are laid off all the time. The only union "protection" they have is when laid off they can put their name on the "list" at the hall, so when a contractor calls for "bodies" (which is usually just to man up a big job), if their next on the list they get sent out - usually soon to be laid off again, well, because they're bad. ;)

While the pay may be the same for any journeyman of said trade, one works and the other doesn't. Once the bad worker finally realizes that they don't work enough to make ends meet, they usually withdraw from the union and go work somewhere else (oddly enough, usually non-union).

This is how it works in construction, anyways. YMMV.

Regards,
Nick

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surely be made along the way.

They are making more mistakes than they are identifying actual waste. They had time to assemble a competent, experienced team before the inaguration, but instead went with Elon and his tech flunkies. They
have found a few things... things like centralizing IT purchases... that anyone could have found.

I think I know what you mean. All the complaints about it are going to cost time and money. And yea, some stuff seems like it's being cancelled due to one-sidedness, but for now I'm enjoying it. I don't believe that they can cost us more than they're saving, but we'll see.

importantly: When's the last time you've seen a US rep do anything that worth the $250k paycheck that we give them year after year?

When was the last time you contacted, or attempted to contact, your rep and got ignored? You've complained about it at least once, if not
several times.

Within the last 2 years I contacted (former) Rep Marcus Molinaro three times, and all 3 of the issues that I complained about still unresolved. I think DOGE should start trimming the # of congressional districts ;) 2 Reps per state seems like it would be enough.

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Nicholas Boel wrote to Dr. What <=-

While the pay may be the same for any journeyman of said trade, one
works and the other doesn't. Once the bad worker finally realizes that they don't work enough to make ends meet, they usually withdraw from
the union and go work somewhere else (oddly enough, usually non-union).

This is how it works in construction, anyways. YMMV.

Not in the unions I have dealt with (UAW and teachers)

Bad workers hang around, making work for others, and still get paid. I think that when a UAW worker is layed off they still get 80% of their pay.

I have dealt with some good union workers, but they were very few and far between. And really didn't need the union, but were required to be in a union because they sold things to union shops.


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They are making more mistakes than they are identifying actual waste. They had time to assemble a competent, experienced team before the inaguration, but instead went with Elon and his tech flunkies. They have found a few things... things like centralizing IT purchases... that anyone could have found.

I think I know what you mean. All the complaints about it are going to cost time and money. And yea, some stuff seems like it's being cancelled due to one-sidedness, but for now I'm enjoying it. I don't believe that they can cost
us more than they're saving, but we'll see.

They do when they cut something illegally and then have to put it back.
For example, all of the parks employees they illegally terminated are now
back at work, with backpay for the period they were not working.

In other words, they got paid to not work.

If they had done their research, and terminated the low performing
employees with cause, those employees would have at least been showing up
to work in order to earn their pay until they got let go. This way, they
did nothing during that time and now will be more difficult to get rid of.

No savings there.

importantly: When's the last time you've seen a US rep do anything that
worth the $250k paycheck that we give them year after year?

When was the last time you contacted, or attempted to contact, your rep and got ignored? You've complained about it at least once, if not several times.

Within the last 2 years I contacted (former) Rep Marcus Molinaro three times, and all 3 of the issues that I complained about still unresolved. I think DOGE
should start trimming the # of congressional districts ;) 2 Reps per state seems like it would be enough.

That would also mean your state only gets 4 electoral votes. OTOH, if they
are not going to be responsive to the people in their smaller districts, I don't understand why they cannot handle larger districts just as "well."


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Hey Ron!

On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 07:46:44 -0400, you wrote:

This is how it works in construction, anyways. YMMV.

Not in the unions I have dealt with (UAW and teachers)

Bad workers hang around, making work for others, and still get paid. I think that when a UAW worker is layed off they still get 80% of their
pay.

That's why the UAW is a small fraction of what it used to be. The workers did it to themselves.

As for teacher unions, they don't seem to be in my area. Are they more inner city located?

I have dealt with some good union workers, but they were very few and
far between. And really didn't need the union, but were required to be
in a union because they sold things to union shops.

They're definitely out there, just spread pretty thin since every company needs at least one. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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If they had done their research, and terminated the low performing employees with cause, those employees would have at least been showing up to work in order to earn their pay until they got let go. This way, they did nothing during that time and now will be more difficult to get rid
of.

The parks employees might be a flop, but this is a big task and they're not finished yet. Some of this stuff can't go wrong, like the cutting of NSAID, Dept of Ed, and dead social security recipients. All things that should have been done decades ago.

should start trimming the # of congressional districts ;) 2 Reps per sta seems like it would be enough.

That would also mean your state only gets 4 electoral votes. OTOH, if they are not going to be responsive to the people in their smaller districts, I don't understand why they cannot handle larger districts
just as "well."

I guess it would make it easier for foreign billionaires to bribe the right people, but it would also simplify things, provide more clarity on how legislation and litigation is being handled, and it would get a lot of useless people out of our way.

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Nicholas Boel wrote to Dr. What <=-

That's why the UAW is a small fraction of what it used to be. The
workers did it to themselves.

Yup. And another reason many auto jobs moved further south - where there is no union.

As for teacher unions, they don't seem to be in my area. Are they more inner city located?

The teacher's union is national. So you probably have it. Participation depends on whether you are are a Right to Work state.


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The parks employees might be a flop, but this is a big task and they're not finished yet. Some of this stuff can't go wrong, like the cutting of NSAID, Dept of Ed, and dead social security recipients. All things that should have been done decades ago.

There will actually be few, if any, dead recipients. If there are any,
that is a lapse at the undertakers. There is paperwork that they are
supposed to file to report your death to the SSA.

Also, that money doesn't belong to the government (it belongs to those of
us who work and pay in) so they shouldn't be counting that as "savings" to
use towards something else, like expensive Space X contracts.

If things like NSAID and DofE are good cuts, they need to concentrate their efforts on them, but they are not really *trying* to save money. They have
a list of things they just *don't like* and are trying to see how many of
them they can get rid of without any legal or public backlash.

IMHO, that is why they are doing things the dumb way and not any form of
smart or organized way.

That would also mean your state only gets 4 electoral votes. OTOH, if they are not going to be responsive to the people in their smaller districts, I don't understand why they cannot handle larger districts just as "well."

I guess it would make it easier for foreign billionaires to bribe the right people, but it would also simplify things, provide more clarity on how legislation and litigation is being handled, and it would get a lot of useless
people out of our way.

I agree with the useless people being out of the way but, yes, it would
also leave a lot fewer people to compromise.


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Hey Ron!

On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 08:08:06 -0400, you wrote:

As for teacher unions, they don't seem to be in my area. Are they
more inner city located?

The teacher's union is national. So you probably have it.
Participation depends on whether you are are a Right to Work state.

I know it's national, and I believe we're still a right to work state. I'm just saying I don't think the teachers at our local school district that my children go to are a part of a union. We're about 30 miles from the city, though. Far enough to still say the pledge every morning, have shop classes in high school, and learn cursive. ;)

Regards,
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If things like NSAID and DofE are good cuts, they need to concentrate their efforts on them, but they are not really *trying* to save money. They have a list of things they just *don't like* and are trying to see how many of them they can get rid of without any legal or public
backlash.

I see that too, based on the information that's been released about things that have been cut. Lots of liberal/leftie stuff. There's definitely a bit of revenge in the agenda, but I'm enjoying it.

The Biden admin did the same thing. They cancelled the Alaskan pipeline, they opened the border, they wasted tons of money that we still never saw the benefit from, and now it's time for some revenge of our own, whether it's smart or not, it just feels good (to guys like me.)

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Mike Powell wrote to AARON THOMAS <=-

They do when they cut something illegally and then have to put it back. For example, all of the parks employees they illegally terminated are
now back at work, with backpay for the period they were not working.

In other words, they got paid to not work.

And, the government spent *more* last quarter than they did before
Musk's "cost cutting" measures.

If they had done their research, and terminated the low performing employees with cause, those employees would have at least been showing
up to work in order to earn their pay until they got let go. This way, they did nothing during that time and now will be more difficult to get rid of.

No savings there.

"Move fast and break things" works when you're high on ketamine and
running a tech company, but not when you're entrusted with the
livelyhood of the American peoplem, their safety and well-being and the economy.

Or, does it work in the tech example? Musk just had to use the money he
was given for xAI for it to buy Twitter before they margin-called his Tesla stock because of the loss of value in both Tesla and X.

importantly: When's the last time you've seen a US rep do anything

that

worth the $250k paycheck that we give them year after year?

When was the last time you contacted, or attempted to contact, your rep and got ignored? You've complained about it at least once, if not several times.

Within the last 2 years I contacted (former) Rep Marcus Molinaro three

imes,

and all 3 of the issues that I complained about still unresolved. I think

DOGE

should start trimming the # of congressional districts ;) 2 Reps per state seems like it would be enough.

That would also mean your state only gets 4 electoral votes. OTOH, if they are not going to be responsive to the people in their smaller districts, I don't understand why they cannot handle larger districts
just as "well."

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Mike Powell wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-

I assumed he'd be in jail for some financial or other tomfoolery.
Election tampering is also possible.

Musk is, among other things, an odd man. Why state that you'll be in
jail if Harris wins at a CAMPAIGN RALLY?


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Mike Powell wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-

I assumed he'd be in jail for some financial or other tomfoolery. Election tampering is also possible.

Musk is, among other things, an odd man. Why state that you'll be in
jail if Harris wins at a CAMPAIGN RALLY?

My thinking was that Harris might prosecute him for his business dealings
but his buddy Trump wouldn't. Could be vote rigging, but...

I am a little confused by the vote rigging thing. On the same night were a heavily-Musk endorsed candidate easily lost a race in Wisconsin, others are claiming he "has the power" and used it to rig the November election, specifically in Wisconsin.

If he can do it, *in Wisconsin*, why hand out millions just to lose a race
*in Wisconsin* that he could have fixed?

I also find it very ironic that a lot of the same folks who claimed in 2020 that elections cannot be rigged are now convinced that Musk must have done
so in 2024. As I suspected in 2020 with Trump, I suspect in 2024 that
Harris didn't focus enough attention on Independents and undecideds. Specifically in her case, I believe the Democrats spent too much time campaigning on "we are not Trump" and not enough on what she planned to do
if she were elected.

Sticking with "Biden is mentally fit" right up until the first debate,
acting surprised that it went like it did, and then switching candidates
was a really screwed up strategy that didn't help at all.

Coming from someone who was looking for someone else to vote for, they shot their own feet off.


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Mike Powell wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-

I also find it very ironic that a lot of the same folks who claimed in 2020 that elections cannot be rigged are now convinced that Musk must
have done so in 2024.

When's the last time any candidate won all swing states?


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Hey Kurt!

On Fri, 04 Apr 2025 16:44:04 -0700, you wrote:

When's the last time any candidate won all swing states?

Probably around the same time a certain party chose not to primary their candidate, went from "this is the best, strongest version of this president we've ever seen" to "here is a cackling hyena spouting gypsy curses". Last minute, we'll throw in "white wine mom drunk" as our choice FOR you, because it's too late to allow the peasants to choose their own candidate.

They need to do better. MUCH better.

Regards,
Nick

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Mike Powell wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-

I also find it very ironic that a lot of the same folks who claimed in 2020 that elections cannot be rigged are now convinced that Musk must have done so in 2024.

When's the last time any candidate won all swing states?

Didn't Biden come pretty close to doing so (keeping in mind that the "swing states" differ some each election)?

Other times I remember it happening was when one candidate is a lot weaker
than the other... like Reagan vs. Mondale. The Democrats switching horses
so late in the race most certainly weakened their ability to stay in power. Switching to a candidate who had spent most of her four years as VP looking overwhelmed anytime the spotlight was on her didn't help. Spending ~100
days before the election looking competent wasn't going to erase that.

If she had spent her four years looking like she did at the second debate,
I likely would have been swayed to vote for her but, as it was, I had to
look somewhere down the list to find someone I felt was competent enough, reasonable enough, and "not a convicted felon" enough to cast my vote for,
even though their stated policies likely don't align with mine.

Considering that a higher percentage of voters either skipped the
Presidential race, or voted third party, than voted for either Trump or
Harris, I don't doubt there were a lot of voters with a similar mindset to mine.


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Nicholas Boel wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

Probably around the same time a certain party chose not to primary
their candidate, went from "this is the best, strongest version of this president we've ever seen" to "here is a cackling hyena spouting gypsy curses". Last minute, we'll throw in "white wine mom drunk" as our
choice FOR you, because it's too late to allow the peasants to choose their own candidate.

The answer you're looking for is 2004, when Reagan won all 49 states.




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Hey Kurt!

On Sat, Apr 05 2025 11:41:13 -0500, you wrote:

The answer you're looking for is 2004, when Reagan won all 49 states.

Your numbers and stats seem a bit off here. Are you using AI, by chance?

If you meant 1984, then sure. :P

Regards,
Nick

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