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  • Slow speed through ethernet on RaspberryPi 4

    From Amessyroom@3:770/3 to All on Sun Jul 21 09:17:38 2024
    I've recently upgraded my internet to fiber to get 1G.

    I've moved some of my machines to ethernet connections, to gain
    more speed. On my windows 11 machine I can get 800/900 Mbps. But on my Pi I'm
    getting much slower speed.

    Any ideas why, and if I could improve the throughput to the ethernet to take
    advantage of the higher speed internet ?

    Getting 203 down / 273 up this morning :-(

    Better than what I got with my previous provider; but I should be able to do
    even better.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@3:770/3 to Amessyroom on Sun Jul 21 15:51:12 2024
    On 20/07/2024 21:17, Amessyroom wrote:
    I've recently upgraded my internet to fiber to get 1G.

    I've moved some of my machines to ethernet connections, to gain
    more speed. On my windows 11 machine I can get 800/900 Mbps. But on my Pi I'm
    getting much slower speed.

    Is it not the case that the Pi uses USB to talk to the ethernet chip?

    Any ideas why, and if I could improve the throughput to the ethernet to take
    advantage of the higher speed internet ?

    Getting 203 down / 273 up this morning :-(

    A chain is only as strong as its weakest link: ping and traceroute will
    reveal where it is


    Better than what I got with my previous provider; but I should be able to do
    even better.

    That's why I cant be arsed to go beyond 40Mbps. I seldom achieve that
    download speed with remote sites

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    "If you don’t read the news paper, you are un-informed. If you read the
    news paper, you are mis-informed."

    Mark Twain

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  • From Brian Gregory@3:770/3 to Amessyroom on Sun Jul 21 17:06:08 2024
    On 20/07/2024 21:17, Amessyroom wrote:
    I've recently upgraded my internet to fiber to get 1G.

    I've moved some of my machines to ethernet connections, to gain
    more speed. On my windows 11 machine I can get 800/900 Mbps. But on my Pi I'm
    getting much slower speed.

    Any ideas why, and if I could improve the throughput to the ethernet to take
    advantage of the higher speed internet ?

    Maybe the software you are using needs more CPU power than the Pi 4 has
    to give if you want it to go faster?

    What software are you using on the Pi 4?

    --
    Brian Gregory (in England).

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  • From Michael Schwingen@3:770/3 to Amessyroom on Sun Jul 21 15:25:49 2024
    On 2024-07-20, Amessyroom <Amessyroom@f10.n1.z28.fidonet.org> wrote:
    I've moved some of my machines to ethernet connections, to gain
    more speed. On my windows 11 machine I can get 800/900 Mbps. But on my Pi I'm
    getting much slower speed.

    How did you test that?

    I just plugged in my Pi 4, upgraded to current OS (bookworm) and ran iperf3 between the PI and my desktop PC - the PI gets consistent 949Mbps (in both directions).

    cu
    Michael
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  • From Errol Casey@1:3634/58 to Michael Schwingen on Sun Jul 21 13:04:39 2024

    Speedtest.net. I'll get iperf and see what performance I have between hosts.

    The test is also with test was with web browser version of speed net not cli or platform specific. But the 800/800 on windows 11 was with same tool and test site.
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  • From druck@3:770/3 to Errol Casey on Sun Jul 21 21:21:39 2024
    On 21/07/2024 01:04, Errol Casey wrote:

    Speedtest.net. I'll get iperf and see what performance I have between hosts.

    The test is also with test was with web browser version of speed net not cli or platform specific. But the 800/800 on windows 11 was with same tool and test site.

    The Pi 4B has a true gigabit Ethenet interface, and is close saturating
    the connection (900Mb/s+) to other local machines in both directions
    using the command line iperf tool.

    [The Pi 3B+ had gigabit Ethernet, but used the internal USB interface
    and so was limited to 300Mb/s, where as the 3B and all previous Pi's
    were 100Mb]

    However, if you use browser based speed page, these are heavily
    javascript laden which will put quite a load on a 1.4GHz 4 core chip
    with limited memory, and may well not reflect the fastest possible speed obtainable.

    ---druck

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@3:770/3 to druck on Mon Jul 22 09:45:26 2024
    On 21/07/2024 21:21, druck wrote:
    On 21/07/2024 01:04, Errol Casey wrote:

    Speedtest.net. I'll get iperf and see what performance I have between
    hosts.

    The  test is also with test was with web browser version of speed net
    not cli
    or platform specific. But  the 800/800 on windows 11 was with same
    tool and
    test site.

    The Pi 4B has a true gigabit Ethenet interface, and is close saturating
    the connection (900Mb/s+) to other local machines in both directions
    using the command line iperf tool.

    [The Pi 3B+ had gigabit Ethernet, but used the internal USB interface
    and so was limited to 300Mb/s, where as the 3B and all previous Pi's
    were 100Mb]

    However, if you use browser based speed page, these are heavily
    javascript laden which will put quite a load on a 1.4GHz 4 core chip
    with limited memory, and may well not reflect the fastest possible speed obtainable.

    ---druck

    That is good information.

    I used to ftp to one of my remote dark office server and transfer a few megabytes to /dev/null to get a decent speed analysis

    You might find some file online and download it using curl etc.

    Those web based speedometers were designed in the days of 5Mbps ADSL...



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  • From Ahem A Rivet's Shot@3:770/3 to The Natural Philosopher on Mon Jul 22 10:34:53 2024
    On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 09:45:26 +0100
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Those web based speedometers were designed in the days of 5Mbps ADSL...

    The CLI version is pretty good on FTTH - but not all the test sites round here can keep up.

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    Whate're is best administered is best - Alexander Pope

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  • From Scott Alfter@3:770/3 to tnp@invalid.invalid on Mon Jul 22 22:11:44 2024
    In article <v7j790$4mi5$1@dont-email.me>,
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 20/07/2024 21:17, Amessyroom wrote:
    I've recently upgraded my internet to fiber to get 1G.

    I've moved some of my machines to ethernet connections, to gain
    more speed. On my windows 11 machine I can get 800/900 Mbps. But on my Pi I'm
    getting much slower speed.

    Is it not the case that the Pi uses USB to talk to the ethernet chip?

    Not the RPi 4. Gigabit Ethernet is baked into the SoC. There are also
    carrier boards for the Compute Module 4 (which uses the same SoC) that put a second GigE controller on the PCIe port. I have such a setup running as my home router (running OpenWRT), and it'll max out my cable-modem connection. I've seen inbound speeds through it up to about 600 Mbps.

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  • From Amessyroom@3:770/3 to All on Mon Jul 22 20:41:52 2024
    Re: Re: Slow speed through ethernet on RaspberryPi 4
    By: Brian Gregory to Amessyroom on Sun Jul 21 2024 05:06 pm

    On 20/07/2024 21:17, Amessyroom wrote:
    I've recently upgraded my internet to fiber to get 1G.

    I've moved some of my machines to ethernet connections, to gain more speed.
    On my windows 11 machine I can get 800/900 Mbps. But on my Pi I'm getting
    much slower speed.

    Maybe the software you are using needs more CPU power than the Pi 4 has to give if you want it to go faster?

    What software are you using on the Pi 4?

    Raspbian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)

    I have had issues trying to run proton-mail.
    Seems like the decryption just kills the CPU.

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  • From Amessyroom@3:770/3 to All on Mon Jul 22 20:45:12 2024
    Re: Re: Slow speed through ethernet on RaspberryPi 4
    By: druck to Errol Casey on Sun Jul 21 2024 09:21 pm

    The Pi 4B has a true gigabit Ethenet interface, and is close saturating the connection (900Mb/s+) to other local machines in both directions using the command line iperf tool.
    However, if you use browser based speed page, these are heavily javascript laden which will put quite a load on a 1.4GHz 4 core chip with limited memory, and may well not reflect the fastest possible speed obtainable.

    ---druck

    That is the throughput I expected. I got iperf3 for my work laptop win11 and
    home pc rasppi. Unfortunately, cannot run on win 11 due to not having admin rights. But I found a iperf3 server in Charlotte, NC . I'm in Fayetteville, NC.

    Upload/Download tests with TCP show expected throughput approaching 900Mb/s.

    So it looks like it is performing, just not with the web based tool on the
    rp 4b :-(

    Thanks for your explanations.

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