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  • Re: Rpi-eeprom update on Pi2 ?

    From Theo@3:770/3 to bp@www.zefox.net on Wed Sep 18 18:08:27 2024
    bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    The Pi2 running Bookworm is reporting a software update
    including one to rpi-eeprom. AFAIK there is no eeprom on
    a Pi2. Any idea what's actually happening?

    It's just a package in the standard RPi distro. It'll get updated to a new version which does nothing on your hardware, just like the previous version
    did nothing.

    Theo

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  • From bp@www.zefox.net@3:770/3 to All on Wed Sep 18 16:46:46 2024
    The Pi2 running Bookworm is reporting a software update
    including one to rpi-eeprom. AFAIK there is no eeprom on
    a Pi2. Any idea what's actually happening?

    Thanks for reading,

    bob prohaska

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  • From bp@www.zefox.net@3:770/3 to Theo on Wed Sep 18 17:23:09 2024
    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
    bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    The Pi2 running Bookworm is reporting a software update
    including one to rpi-eeprom. AFAIK there is no eeprom on
    a Pi2. Any idea what's actually happening?

    It's just a package in the standard RPi distro. It'll get updated to a new version which does nothing on your hardware, just like the previous version did nothing.

    Thanks for writing,

    bob prohaska

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@3:770/3 to bp@www.zefox.net on Thu Sep 19 07:46:05 2024
    On 18/09/2024 17:46, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    The Pi2 running Bookworm is reporting a software update
    including one to rpi-eeprom. AFAIK there is no eeprom on
    a Pi2. Any idea what's actually happening?

    Some of the things you might plug in might have eeprom.

    I think its like the old days of having PC cards with bios extensions

    Thanks for reading,

    bob prohaska


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  • From yeti@3:770/3 to The Natural Philosopher on Thu Sep 19 09:49:23 2024
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:

    Some of the things you might plug in might have eeprom.

    I think its like the old days of having PC cards with bios extensions

    Those are a different thing.

    See ... <https://github.com/raspberrypi/rpi-eeprom>

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@3:770/3 to yeti on Thu Sep 19 10:14:27 2024
    On 19/09/2024 10:07, yeti wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:

    Some of the things you might plug in might have eeprom.

    I think its like the old days of having PC cards with bios extensions

    Those are a different thing.

    See ... <https://github.com/raspberrypi/rpi-eeprom>


    Ah Ok. That makes sense then

    Full explanation here:

    https://www.raspberrypi.com/documentation/computers/raspberry-pi.html#raspberry-pi-boot-eeprom

    It pereforms essentially the same function as the PC BIOS bootloader does.


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  • From bp@www.zefox.net@3:770/3 to yeti on Thu Sep 19 15:05:12 2024
    yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:

    Some of the things you might plug in might have eeprom.

    I think its like the old days of having PC cards with bios extensions

    Those are a different thing.

    See ... <https://github.com/raspberrypi/rpi-eeprom>

    A quick (and somewhat uncomprehending) look at github suggests
    the effect is confined to the Pi4 and Pi5.

    I was wondering if rpi-eeprom might also effect part of the
    boot process on older Raspberry Pi boards. Not strictly eeprom
    code, but maybe extending to the DOS materials like bootcode.bin.
    It's understood there's no hardware equivalence, but there might
    be some functional equivalence.

    Thanks for writing,

    bob prohaska

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  • From Theo@3:770/3 to bp@www.zefox.net on Thu Sep 19 17:18:31 2024
    bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:

    Some of the things you might plug in might have eeprom.

    I think its like the old days of having PC cards with bios extensions

    Those are a different thing.

    See ... <https://github.com/raspberrypi/rpi-eeprom>

    A quick (and somewhat uncomprehending) look at github suggests
    the effect is confined to the Pi4 and Pi5.

    I was wondering if rpi-eeprom might also effect part of the
    boot process on older Raspberry Pi boards. Not strictly eeprom
    code, but maybe extending to the DOS materials like bootcode.bin.
    It's understood there's no hardware equivalence, but there might
    be some functional equivalence.

    Those live in the firmware, which is stored in the raspi-firmware
    binary package:

    https://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/pool/main/r/raspi-firmware/

    Theo

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  • From Brian Gregory@3:770/3 to bp@www.zefox.net on Fri Sep 20 00:55:32 2024
    On 18/09/2024 17:46, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    The Pi2 running Bookworm is reporting a software update
    including one to rpi-eeprom. AFAIK there is no eeprom on
    a Pi2. Any idea what's actually happening?

    Thanks for reading,

    bob prohaska


    It's the same distro and can run on any pi so it keeps everything up to
    date whether needed or not.

    --
    Brian Gregory (in England).

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@3:770/3 to Brian Gregory on Fri Sep 20 09:21:21 2024
    On 20/09/2024 00:55, Brian Gregory wrote:
    On 18/09/2024 17:46, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    The Pi2 running Bookworm is reporting a software update
    including one to rpi-eeprom. AFAIK there is no eeprom on
    a Pi2. Any idea what's actually happening?

    Thanks for reading,

    bob prohaska


    It's the same distro and can run on any pi so it keeps everything up to
    date whether needed or not.

    So sensible and sane its probably true...


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