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    From Jan Panteltje@3:770/3 to All on Wed Dec 30 15:22:02 2020
    Just bought a PI4B 8 GB
    Unfortunately it does not run SDcard images from my older PI4,
    boot process hangs with something like 'use more modern software'.
    It runs OK with 2020-12-02-raspios-buster-armhf-full.zip (just downloaded from raspberry org)

    Web search talks about these 4B having a boot EEPROM..
    This is a problem as there is a year or more of work in the current images.

    Whats up?

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  • From A. Dumas@3:770/3 to Jan Panteltje on Wed Dec 30 15:36:06 2020
    Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
    Web search talks about these 4B having a boot EEPROM..
    This is a problem as there is a year or more of work in the current images.

    Whats up?

    All info here, or linked from there: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/bootmodes/bootfl ow_2711.md

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  • From ray carter@3:770/3 to Jan Panteltje on Wed Dec 30 16:15:39 2020
    On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 15:22:02 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    Just bought a PI4B 8 GB Unfortunately it does not run SDcard images from
    my older PI4,
    boot process hangs with something like 'use more modern software'.
    It runs OK with 2020-12-02-raspios-buster-armhf-full.zip (just
    downloaded from raspberry org)

    Web search talks about these 4B having a boot EEPROM..
    This is a problem as there is a year or more of work in the current
    images.

    Whats up?

    What would be wrong with just copying your data to a new card?

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  • From Jim Jackson@3:770/3 to Jan Panteltje on Wed Dec 30 18:13:27 2020
    On 2020-12-30, Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
    Just bought a PI4B 8 GB
    Unfortunately it does not run SDcard images from my older PI4,
    boot process hangs with something like 'use more modern software'.
    It runs OK with 2020-12-02-raspios-buster-armhf-full.zip (just downloaded
    from raspberry org)

    Web search talks about these 4B having a boot EEPROM..
    This is a problem as there is a year or more of work in the current images.

    Whats up?

    Put the sdcard back into the older pi4 and run update on the operating system.

    apt-get update
    apt-get upgrade

    That should update the boot loader stuff and it should boot in the 8Gb Pi4

    I've done that before when upgrading Pi hardware.

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  • From Jan Panteltje@3:770/3 to jj@franjam.org.uk on Thu Dec 31 09:59:39 2020
    On a sunny day (Wed, 30 Dec 2020 18:13:27 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> wrote in <slrnrupgq7.6qt.jj@iridium.wf32df>:

    On 2020-12-30, Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
    Just bought a PI4B 8 GB
    Unfortunately it does not run SDcard images from my older PI4,
    boot process hangs with something like 'use more modern software'.
    It runs OK with 2020-12-02-raspios-buster-armhf-full.zip (just downloaded from raspberry org)

    Web search talks about these 4B having a boot EEPROM..
    This is a problem as there is a year or more of work in the current images. >>
    Whats up?

    Put the sdcard back into the older pi4 and run update on the operating system.

    apt-get update
    apt-get upgrade

    That should update the boot loader stuff and it should boot in the 8Gb Pi4

    I've done that before when upgrading Pi hardware.

    Thank you very much, that worked!
    It added 1.6 GB software / updates too, just enough left of my 10 GB G4 on the last
    day of the month...

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  • From Tauno Voipio@3:770/3 to Jan Panteltje on Thu Dec 31 16:03:31 2020
    On 31.12.20 11.59, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Wed, 30 Dec 2020 18:13:27 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Jim
    Jackson
    <jj@franjam.org.uk> wrote in <slrnrupgq7.6qt.jj@iridium.wf32df>:

    On 2020-12-30, Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
    Just bought a PI4B 8 GB
    Unfortunately it does not run SDcard images from my older PI4,
    boot process hangs with something like 'use more modern software'.
    It runs OK with 2020-12-02-raspios-buster-armhf-full.zip (just downloaded from raspberry org)

    Web search talks about these 4B having a boot EEPROM..
    This is a problem as there is a year or more of work in the current images.

    Whats up?

    Put the sdcard back into the older pi4 and run update on the operating system.

    apt-get update
    apt-get upgrade

    That should update the boot loader stuff and it should boot in the 8Gb Pi4 >>
    I've done that before when upgrading Pi hardware.

    Thank you very much, that worked!
    It added 1.6 GB software / updates too, just enough left of my 10 GB G4 on
    the last
    day of the month...

    After the upgrade write:

    sudo apt-get autoremove -y
    sudo apt-get autoclean

    so you will get rid of obsolete packages.

    --

    -TV

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  • From A. Dumas@3:770/3 to Jan Panteltje on Thu Dec 31 14:44:14 2020
    Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On a sunny day (Wed, 30 Dec 2020 18:13:27 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Jim
    Jackson
    <jj@franjam.org.uk> wrote in <slrnrupgq7.6qt.jj@iridium.wf32df>:
    apt-get update
    apt-get upgrade

    Thank you very much, that worked!

    If you hadn't updated in such a long(?) time, you should also get other benefits, like the Pi 4 staying cooler.

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  • From Jim Jackson@3:770/3 to Jan Panteltje on Thu Dec 31 18:28:44 2020
    On 2020-12-31, Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On a sunny day (Wed, 30 Dec 2020 18:13:27 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Jim
    Jackson
    <jj@franjam.org.uk> wrote in <slrnrupgq7.6qt.jj@iridium.wf32df>:

    On 2020-12-30, Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
    Just bought a PI4B 8 GB
    Unfortunately it does not run SDcard images from my older PI4,
    boot process hangs with something like 'use more modern software'.
    It runs OK with 2020-12-02-raspios-buster-armhf-full.zip (just downloaded from raspberry org)

    Web search talks about these 4B having a boot EEPROM..
    This is a problem as there is a year or more of work in the current images.

    Whats up?

    Put the sdcard back into the older pi4 and run update on the operating system.

    apt-get update
    apt-get upgrade

    That should update the boot loader stuff and it should boot in the 8Gb Pi4

    I've done that before when upgrading Pi hardware.

    Thank you very much, that worked!

    Glad to have helped.

    It added 1.6 GB software / updates too, just enough left of my 10 GB G4 on
    the last
    day of the month...

    Ooooo... glad you were lucky there.

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