Anyone know why when I try to post some ANSIs in the BBS advertisements base I get blocked and told I can't make that post? I forget the exact message at this moment, but I can probably get it again if necessary.

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Anyone know why when I try to post some ANSIs in the BBS advertisements base I >get blocked and told I can't make that post? I forget the exact message at this
moment, but I can probably get it again if necessary.

You may be trying to post ANSI in an area that has been configured as not allowing ANSI?


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Re: Posting ANSIs
By: Mike Powell to PHIGAN on Mon Sep 02 2024 09:46 am

You may be trying to post ANSI in an area that has been configured as not allowing ANSI?

Well, it's the BBS Advertisement area. I've had it happen on other boards, too. I try to post one ANSI, and the board denies it.. I try a different one, and it posts just fine. I guess I need more time to experiment what works where.

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Re: Posting ANSIs
By: phigan to Mike Powell on Mon Sep 02 2024 10:35:31

You may be trying to post ANSI in an area that has been configured as not > > allowing ANSI?

Well, it's the BBS Advertisement area. I've had it happen on other boards, t > I try to post one ANSI, and the board denies it.. I try a different one, and > posts just fine. I guess I need more time to experiment what works where.

Don't really know for sure if this is what is causing it or not, but do you know if the ansis that are being denied or mangled are they going all the way out to column 80?

It's been a long time but back when I used to post color graphics in dove, etc I converted it to CTRL-A format and made sure it did'nt go past column 78 or so.

If you are trying this just in different BBSes or something some sysops don't allow ansi posting regardless of what the rules of the echo are, I think I haveit allowed on mine only in dovenet ads and If I recall when you was posting oneon my BBS it was in my local general echo and I have it set to strip ansi.

There just could be a lot of different factors causing it.


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Anyone know why when I try to post some ANSIs in the BBS advertisements base I get blocked and told I can't make that post? I forget the exact message at this moment, but I can probably get it again if necessary.

Is it a duplicate of an earlier advertisement? That sometimes hangs me
up; I turned dupe protection off on my ads boards.



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You may be trying to post ANSI in an area that has been configured as not allowing ANSI?

Well, it's the BBS Advertisement area. I've had it happen on other boards, too.
I try to post one ANSI, and the board denies it.. I try a different one, and it
posts just fine. I guess I need more time to experiment what works where.

It is possible the sysop has the area configured incorrectly not to accept ANSI, even though it is a BBS Ads area. I have made that boo-boo before. :)


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Re: Re: Posting ANSIs
By: poindexter FORTRAN to phigan on Mon Sep 02 2024 11:19 am

Is it a duplicate of an earlier advertisement? That sometimes hangs me
up; I turned dupe protection off on my ads boards.

I kinda doubt it because I know I've posted duplicates of ASCII ads.
Should probably try testing that theory too :)

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Re: Posting ANSIs
By: Mike Powell to PHIGAN on Tue Sep 03 2024 09:15 am

It is possible the sysop has the area configured incorrectly not to accept ANSI, even though it is a BBS Ads area. I have made that boo-boo before. :)

Yeh, but like I was sayin, it'll deny one ANSI and then take a different one :/. Could be it was just too long?

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It is possible the sysop has the area configured incorrectly not to accept >> ANSI, even though it is a BBS Ads area. I have made that boo-boo before. :)

Yeh, but like I was sayin, it'll deny one ANSI and then take a different one :/. Could be it was just too long?

Oh, ok, it takes them sometimes in the same msg area. Well, in that case,
the other suggestions here... ANSI lines too long or duplicate msg... are
the more likely culprits.


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Re: Posting ANSIs
By: phigan to All on Sun Sep 01 2024 09:49 am

Anyone know why when I try to post some ANSIs in the BBS advertisements base I get blocked and told I can't make that post? I forget the exact message at this moment, but I can probably get it again if necessary.

What's the exact message you're told?
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Re: Posting ANSIs
By: Digital Man to phigan on Wed Sep 04 2024 10:01 pm

What's the exact message you're told?

"Sorry, you can't post that message."

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Re: Posting ANSIs
By: phigan to Digital Man on Sat Sep 07 2024 01:30 am

Re: Posting ANSIs
By: Digital Man to phigan on Wed Sep 04 2024 10:01 pm

What's the exact message you're told?

"Sorry, you can't post that message."

Most likely, it's just a duplicate message and has nothing to do with whether it contains ANSI escape sequences or not.
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Re: Posting ANSIs
By: Digital Man to phigan on Sat Sep 07 2024 01:54 am

Most likely, it's just a duplicate message and has nothing to do with whethe it contains ANSI escape sequences or not.

In this case I don't think it's a duplicate.. pretty sure it's never been posted.. but, it _is_ 167 lines long. The ANSI I posted that was 24 lines was fine, of course. Going to try a 77 liner.

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Re: Posting ANSIs
By: phigan to Digital Man on Sat Sep 07 2024 02:15 am

fine, of course. Going to try a 77 liner.

Nope, that one wouldn't post either.

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Re: Posting ANSIs
By: Digital Man to phigan on Sat Sep 07 2024 01:54 am

Most likely, it's just a duplicate message and has nothing to do with whethe it contains ANSI escape sequences or not.

My mistake. It _was_ a duplicate.. but the previous one was like 50 messages back. How many does it take? I see people's ads reposted pretty often.

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Re: Posting ANSIs
By: phigan to Digital Man on Sat Sep 07 2024 02:15 am

Re: Posting ANSIs
By: Digital Man to phigan on Sat Sep 07 2024 01:54 am

Most likely, it's just a duplicate message and has nothing to do with whethe it contains ANSI escape sequences or not.

In this case I don't think it's a duplicate..

That's what the message means though. If it were a different posting failure, an error would have been logged to your error.log file.
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Re: Posting ANSIs
By: phigan to Digital Man on Sat Sep 07 2024 02:23 am

Re: Posting ANSIs
By: Digital Man to phigan on Sat Sep 07 2024 01:54 am

Most likely, it's just a duplicate message and has nothing to do with whethe it contains ANSI escape sequences or not.

My mistake. It _was_ a duplicate.. but the previous one was like 50 messages back. How many does it take? I see people's ads reposted pretty often.

However many you have configured for that sub-board's "Duplicate Checking" option in SCFG.
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Re: Posting ANSIs
By: Digital Man to phigan on Sat Sep 07 2024 12:30 pm

However many you have configured for that sub-board's "Duplicate Checking" option in SCFG.

When I get all the way into the Ads sub-board in SCFG, the option for Duplicate Checking says Enabled, 10000 message CRCs.. I tried checking the wiki for some info on what that means, but didn't find anything. If the maximum messages is set to 1000 and duplicate checking is enabled, I'm guessing that means there would need to be 1000 messages rolled through before it can be posted again.

What is the "10000 message CRCs" setting?

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Re: Posting ANSIs
By: Digital Man to phigan on Sat Sep 07 2024 12:30 pm

However many you have configured for that sub-board's "Duplicate Checking" option in SCFG.

When I get all the way into the Ads sub-board in SCFG, the option for Duplicate Checking says Enabled, 10000 message CRCs.. I tried checking
the wiki for some info on what that means, but didn't find anything. If the maximum messages is set to 1000 and duplicate checking is enabled,
I'm guessing that means there would need to be 1000 messages rolled through before it can be posted again.

The fix(es) for this "problem" are:

1. Disable dupe checking in BBS Ads sub-boards.
2. Alter your Ad post slightly each time. I use a script to insert the current date at the bottom of my Ad before it's posted. That way it's
seen as a different (non-dupe) message.

What is the "10000 message CRCs" setting?

It means it will search 10000 messages to see if the current one matches
any of them and is therefore a dupe. Doesn't make any sense to have
that set like that if you only keep 1000 messages. Make them match. I suggest 5000 for both.



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Re: Posting ANSIs
By: phigan to Digital Man on Sun Sep 08 2024 03:58 am

Re: Posting ANSIs
By: Digital Man to phigan on Sat Sep 07 2024 12:30 pm

However many you have configured for that sub-board's "Duplicate Checking" option in SCFG.

When I get all the way into the Ads sub-board in SCFG, the option for Duplicate Checking says Enabled, 10000 message CRCs.. I tried checking the wiki for some info on what that means, but didn't find anything.

Documentation for this option can be found in the sysop manual (https://synchro.net/docs/message_section.html#SettingUpMessageBase) and built-into SCFG (hit the F1 key to display help).

If the
maximum messages is set to 1000 and duplicate checking is enabled, I'm guessing that means there would need to be 1000 messages rolled through before it can be posted again.

Correct.

What is the "10000 message CRCs" setting?

Like you described, but you can also read the manual or the online help in SCFG.
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Re: Re: Posting ANSIs
By: Gamgee to phigan on Sun Sep 08 2024 08:02 am

It means it will search 10000 messages to see if the current one matches
any of them and is therefore a dupe. Doesn't make any sense to have
that set like that if you only keep 1000 messages. Make them match. I suggest 5000 for both.

The message text CRC history (a sub-boards ".sch" file) can be larger (even much larger) than the number of messages that a sysop chooses to store in a base. And it makes sense if one wants to prevent old dupes from being imported into their (networked) message bases.
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Re: Re: Posting ANSIs
By: Gamgee to phigan on Sun Sep 08 2024 08:02 am

It means it will search 10000 messages to see if the current one matches
any of them and is therefore a dupe. Doesn't make any sense to have
that set like that if you only keep 1000 messages. Make them match. I suggest 5000 for both.

The message text CRC history (a sub-boards ".sch" file) can be larger (even much larger) than the number of messages that a sysop chooses to store in a base. And it makes sense if one wants to prevent old dupes
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Ahhh, cool. Makes perfect sense actually, thanks for that info!




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