How do I edit the Startup for Havens BBS hosted on Synchronetbbs.org??


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Re: Startup??
By: HusTler to All on Sat Nov 02 2019 04:21 pm

How do I edit the Startup for Havens BBS hosted on Synchronetbbs.org??

What do you mean by "the Startup"?

Nightfox

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Re: Startup??
By: Nightfox to HusTler on Sat Nov 02 2019 03:31 pm

How do I edit the Startup for Havens BBS hosted on Synchronetbbs.org??

What do you mean by "the Startup"?

Nightfox

Widnows has startup file. It loads all the drivers, software blah blah. What is the equivelent on Ubuntu server? I want to edit whatever MarisaG has loading and running. She claims I restarted Joomla/Apache. I want to view the startup file(s) that start the server and BBS.

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HusTler wrote to Nightfox <=-

How do I edit the Startup for Havens BBS hosted on Synchronetbbs.org??

What do you mean by "the Startup"?

Widnows has startup file. It loads all the drivers, software
blah blah. What is the equivelent on Ubuntu server? I want to
edit whatever MarisaG has loading and running. She claims I
restarted Joomla/Apache. I want to view the startup file(s) that
start the server and BBS.

Sounds like you need to learn about 'systemd'. Google is your
friend.



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Re: Startup??
By: HusTler to Nightfox on Sun Nov 03 2019 09:23 am

What do you mean by "the Startup"?

Widnows has startup file. It loads all the drivers, software blah blah. What is the equivelent on Ubuntu server? I want to edit whatever MarisaG has loading and running. She claims I restarted Joomla/Apache. I want to view the startup file(s) that start the server and BBS.

I'm still not too sure what you mean by "startup file"? I'm not sure Windows has a single file that tells it what all to load. Modern versions of Windows don't use a config.sys/autoexec.bat like DOS did - though I believe there still is a config.sys/autoexec.bat for pure DOS sessions.

In Linux, things that run in the background are often known as "services" or "deamons". Depending on the Linux distribution used on her servers, the location of those might be different. One common location is /etc/init.d . You might ask her about that and how she has it configured to start up.

Nightfox

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Re: Startup??
By: HusTler to Nightfox on Sun Nov 03 2019 09:23 am

Widnows has startup file. It loads all the drivers, software blah blah. What is the equivelent on Ubuntu server? I want to edit whatever MarisaG

has

loading and running. She claims I restarted Joomla/Apache. I want to view the startup file(s) that start the server and BBS.

If you reboot, and everything is the way you want it, there's really noting to check. Any commands I give you below, used with a different syntax could alter your startup or other system functions so use at your own risk. Again, if everything is loaded at boot the way you want it, I wouldn't even bother.

initctl list
or
service --status-all | grep +
or
systemctl list-units --type=service

Depends on version which one you'll use.

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Re: Re: Startup??
By: Gamgee to HusTler on Sun Nov 03 2019 10:57 am

Sounds like you need to learn about 'systemd'. Google is your
friend.

Ok thanks. I've heard alot Linux guys bithin about system.d and creating flavors that don't use it. I'll have read more about it. Anyway system.d is resonible for starting they system? Thanks for the heads up.

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Re: Startup??
By: Nightfox to HusTler on Sun Nov 03 2019 11:43 am

In Linux, things that run in the background are often known as "services"

or

"deamons". Depending on the Linux distribution used on her servers, the location of those might be different. One common location is /etc/init.d . You might ask her about that and how she has it configured to start up.

Ok here is a directory listing of /etc/init.d I'm going to guess that synchronetbbs has something to do with the BBS startup.

cd /etc/init.d
ls

acpid ebtables lxcfs rsyslog
apache2 fail2ban lxd screen-cleanup apache-htcacheclean grub-common mdadm ssh
apparmor hwclock.sh mdadm-waitidle synchronetbbs
apport irqbalance mysql sysstat
atd iscsid open-iscsi udev
clamav-freshclam jove open-vm-tools ufw
console-setup.sh keyboard-setup.sh plymouth unattended-upgrades cron kmod plymouth-log uuidd
cryptdisks lvm2 postfix vnstat
cryptdisks-early lvm2-lvmetad procps x11-common
dbus lvm2-lvmpolld rsync

Here's what the file synchronetbbs looks like

!/usr/bin/perl

### BEGIN INIT INFO
# Provides: synchronetbbs
# Required-Start: $local_fs $remote_fs $network $syslog
# Required-Stop: $local_fs $remote_fs $network $syslog
# Default-Start: 2 3 4 5
# Default-Stop: 0 1 6
# Short-Description: Synchronet BBS service 1.0
# Description: Synchronet BBS service 1.0
# Documentation: https://synchronetbbs.org/index.php/forum/alternate-startu$
# Type: forking
# PIDFile: /var/run/sbbs.pid
# X-Interactive: false
### END INIT INFO

my $SBBSDIR = "/sbbs";
my $PIDFILE = "/var/run/sbbs.pid";
my $pidnum = "";

# Get the SBBS process pid
if (-f $PIDFILE)
{
open(INPF, "<$PIDFILE") || die "Unable to open $PIDFILE for input";
{

------snip------------------------

my $running="";
# check if BBS process is running
my $exists = "";
if ($pidnum ne "nofile")
{
$exists = kill 0, $pidnum;
if ($exists)
{
$running = "running";
}
}
if (($Command eq "") || ($Command eq "start"))
{
if ($running ne "running")
{
print "Starting SBBS...\n";
if (-f "$SBBSDIR/nostart

and it goes on and on...

Am I on the track?

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HusTler wrote to Gamgee <=-

Sounds like you need to learn about 'systemd'. Google is your
friend.

Ok thanks. I've heard alot Linux guys bithin about system.d
and creating flavors that don't use it. I'll have read more about
it. Anyway system.d is resonible for starting they system?
Thanks for the heads up.

Yes, there are a fair number of folks (including me) that don't
care much for 'systemd'. Note that that is the correct spelling,
it's not "system.d".

For Ubuntu, and many other Linux distros, systemd is indeed the mechanism/process for how a system starts up. It still involves
numerous scripts and ".service" files, and I don't know much more
about it than that, as I don't use it myself. There is a command
called 'systemctl' that is the interface used to control the
startup process. Will require some reading to get a handle on it
all.



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Re: Startup??
By: HusTler to Nightfox on Sun Nov 03 2019 05:40 pm

Ok here is a directory listing of /etc/init.d I'm going to guess that synchronetbbs has something to do with the BBS startup.

Here's what the file synchronetbbs looks like

!/usr/bin/perl

### BEGIN INIT INFO
# Provides: synchronetbbs
# Required-Start: $local_fs $remote_fs $network $syslog

...

if ($running ne "running")
{
print "Starting SBBS...\n";
if (-f "$SBBSDIR/nostart

and it goes on and on...

Am I on the track?

Yes, it looks like you're on the right track. That looks like a Perl script to start up Synchronet - I've seen posts from Marisa G about some Linux utilities & scripts she has created for Synchronet. I haven't used her scripts, so unfortunately I probably wouldn't be too much help about that; Marisa might be the best person to ask for support about her scripts, or anyone else who might be using them.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Startup??
By: Gamgee to HusTler on Sun Nov 03 2019 06:35 pm

Yes, there are a fair number of folks (including me) that don't
care much for 'systemd'. Note that that is the correct spelling,
it's not "system.d".
For Ubuntu, and many other Linux distros, systemd is indeed the mechanism/process for how a system starts up. It still involves
numerous scripts and ".service" files, and I don't know much more
about it than that, as I don't use it myself. There is a command

Ok..Thanks...MarisaG took care of the problem (Again). Something about ports she said. Who knows. Let's see how the next Synchronet update goes.

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Re: Re: Startup??
By: Gamgee to HusTler on Sun Nov 03 2019 06:35 pm

For Ubuntu, and many other Linux distros, systemd is indeed the mechanism/process for how a system starts up. It still involves
numerous scripts and ".service" files, and I don't know much more
about it than that, as I don't use it myself. There is a command
called 'systemctl' that is the interface used to control the
startup process. Will require some reading to get a handle on it
all.

Thanks. Kinda like needing to learn DOS so I can use Word right? ;-)


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Re: Startup??
By: Nightfox to HusTler on Sun Nov 03 2019 07:10 pm

Yes, it looks like you're on the right track. That looks like a Perl

script

to start up Synchronet - I've seen posts from Marisa G about some Linux

I got the script locations from Marisa. I have a better understanding of what happens after a reboot. Hopefully I won't have to deal with this Apache/Joomla stuff anymore. I don't see it in any of the scripts mentioned so far.


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