Hi mate,

I just wanted to bring to your attention some weird behaviour I have seen today.

I have been playing with uploading files from my C-64 onto my BBS (Logged in via port 64000 8-) and it works great, but after I successfully upload the file, If I List the files in the Directory and then attempt (E) to view Extended info, the BBS drops the connections and the terminal server or maybe subs itself appears to recycle!

I realise that the file probably doesn't have any Extended Info yet, but surely it should cause a crash and a dropped connection like that? should it?

I am on 3.19c running on x86_64 Debian 11 Linux. 8-)

Maybe its a bug?

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Re: Strange Behaviour
By: Geo to Digital Man on Sun Jan 16 2022 11:23 am

Hi mate,

I just wanted to bring to your attention some weird behaviour I have seen today.

I have been playing with uploading files from my C-64 onto my BBS (Logged in via port 64000 8-) and it works great, but after I successfully upload the file, If I List the files in the Directory and then attempt (E) to view Extended info, the BBS drops the connections and the terminal server or maybe subs itself appears to recycle!

I realise that the file probably doesn't have any Extended Info yet, but surely it should cause a crash and a dropped connection like that? should it?

I am on 3.19c running on x86_64 Debian 11 Linux. 8-)

Maybe its a bug?

Sounds like a bug. I totally agree: it shouldn't crash. A gdb-backtrace would be very helpful in root-causing the issue:
http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:gdb

but I'll also see if I can reproduce the problem here.
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Re: Strange Behaviour
By: Digital Man to Geo on Sat Jan 15 2022 05:25 pm

Re: Strange Behaviour
By: Geo to Digital Man on Sun Jan 16 2022 11:23 am

Hi mate,

I just wanted to bring to your attention some weird behaviour I have seen today.

I have been playing with uploading files from my C-64 onto my BBS (Logged in via port 64000 8-) and it works great, but after I successfully upload the file, If I List the files in the Directory and then attempt (E) to view Extended info, the BBS drops the connections and the terminal server or maybe subs itself appears to recycle!

I realise that the file probably doesn't have any Extended Info yet, but surely it should cause a crash and a dropped connection like that? should it?

I am on 3.19c running on x86_64 Debian 11 Linux. 8-)

Maybe its a bug?

Sounds like a bug. I totally agree: it shouldn't crash. A gdb-backtrace would be very helpful in root-causing the issue: http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:gdb

but I'll also see if I can reproduce the problem here.

No luck reproducing here. Maybe you could upload the file to cvs.synchro.net (also a Debian Linux system)?
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Re: Strange Behaviour
By: Digital Man to Geo on Sat Jan 15 2022 05:25 pm

No luck reproducing here. Maybe you could upload the file to cvs.synchro.net (also a Debian Linux system)?
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Hi Rob,

Hmm, Thats a worry then.
I'll look up the gdb info.

In the meantime, I have logged back in to the bbs and the problem is not limited to the few C-64 files I uploaded. Seems if I ask for extended info on any of the files, and use the A,B,C,D style shortcut I get the same result, connection dropped and the
terminal sbbs server appears to reload. I haven't tried referring to the file by full name yet.

I'll try that a bit later and look at gdb etc tomorrow

8-)
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Re: Strange Behaviour
By: Keith Matthews to Digital Man on Sun Jan 16 2022 03:06 pm

Re: Strange Behaviour
By: Digital Man to Geo on Sat Jan 15 2022 05:25 pm

No luck reproducing here. Maybe you could upload the file to cvs.synchro.net (also a Debian Linux system)?
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Hi Rob,

Hmm, Thats a worry then.
I'll look up the gdb info.

In the meantime, I have logged back in to the bbs and the problem is not limited to the few C-64 files I uploaded. Seems if I ask for extended info on any of the files, and use the A,B,C,D style shortcut I get the same result, connection dropped and the
terminal sbbs server appears to reload. I haven't tried referring to the file by full name yet.

I'll try that a bit later and look at gdb etc tomorrow

Same problem happens if you just use the 'E' command from the file menu (Default/classic command shell)?

Sounds like it could be a corrupt or text.dat file maybe?
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Hi Rob,

Im using the Renegade Clone command shell.

Maybe I'll try switching back to the default and see what happens.

Sorry I haven't had more time to debug this, started back at work this week and its a bit busy catching up 8-)
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Re: Strange Behaviour
By: Keith Matthews to Digital Man on Tue Jan 18 2022 06:32 pm

Hi Rob,

Im using the Renegade Clone command shell.

Maybe I'll try switching back to the default and see what happens.

Sorry I haven't had more time to debug this, started back at work this week and its a bit busy catching up 8-)

I just switch to the Reneclone command shell and did not produce any kind of crash when view extended file information.

Do you have any text.dat modifications?
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Hi Rob,

I don't believe I have ever edited that file 8-)

I just switched to Synhronet (Classic) command shell and got the same result. 8-/

* File * 0:00:38 (1) Main (12) Sysop: E

List Extended File Information

Filespec [All Files]:

Library : (1) Main File Library
Directory : (12) Uploads to Sysop
Filename : test2
File size : 4,795 (4.7K) bytes
Credit value : 4,795
File is currently open by 1517871697 user91f8c092.
File is currently open by 1517871704 userdacf38555a389de369bcd429f41ffa4a.
File is currently open by 1517871708 user0491082bc4c434c8c79361b77aff820a246ee796.

Description : tes
Uploaded by : Geo
Uploaded by : [192.168.1.14] Kgo2.can.barnabasmusic.com via Telnet Uploaded on : Sun Jan 16 2022 10:02:45
File date : Tue Jan 19 2038 14:14:07
Last downloaded : Never
Times downloaded : 0
Time to download : 00:00:01

Connection to 192.168.1.18 closed by remote host.
Connection to 192.168.1.18 closed.
255 sbbs@Manifold4:~$


I find that "File open by......." stuff weird as I am the only user and those are not user names?"

Could that be pointing to something?

8-)
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Re: Strange Behaviour
By: Keith Matthews to Digital Man on Wed Jan 19 2022 03:23 pm

Hi Rob,

I don't believe I have ever edited that file 8-)

I just switched to Synhronet (Classic) command shell and got the same result. 8-/

* File * 0:00:38 (1) Main (12) Sysop: E

List Extended File Information

Filespec [All Files]:

Library : (1) Main File Library
Directory : (12) Uploads to Sysop
Filename : test2
File size : 4,795 (4.7K) bytes
Credit value : 4,795
File is currently open by 1517871697 user91f8c092.
File is currently open by 1517871704 userdacf38555a389de369bcd429f41ffa4a. File is currently open by 1517871708 user0491082bc4c434c8c79361b77aff820a246ee796.

Description : tes
Uploaded by : Geo
Uploaded by : [192.168.1.14] Kgo2.can.barnabasmusic.com via Telnet Uploaded on : Sun Jan 16 2022 10:02:45
File date : Tue Jan 19 2038 14:14:07
Last downloaded : Never
Times downloaded : 0
Time to download : 00:00:01

Connection to 192.168.1.18 closed by remote host.
Connection to 192.168.1.18 closed.
255 sbbs@Manifold4:~$

I find that "File open by......." stuff weird as I am the only user and those are not user names?"

Could that be pointing to something?

Yes, it tells me that your ctrl/text.dat file is for v3.18 (or earlier) Synchronet. It's the ctrl/text.dat file that came with v3.19 and that is the source of your issues, unfortunately. Replace that file with the correct one from v3.19 and that should resolve that.
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Re: Strange Behaviour
By: Digital Man to Keith Matthews on Tue Jan 18 2022 09:39 pm

Yes, it tells me that your ctrl/text.dat file is for v3.18 (or earlier) Synchronet. It's the ctrl/text.dat file that came with v3.19 and that is the source of your issues, unfortunately. Replace that file with the correct one from v3.19 and that should resolve that.

FYI, I was able to produce the errant file information output that you pasted in your message using a text.dat from v3.18 with sbbs v3.19. However, I was *not* able to recreate any crash of sbbs (on Windows or Linux) using that file. I do still suspect that is the cause of your crashes however, so please report back when you've updated your text.dat to the corresponding version from Git.
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Hiya Rob,

So just to confirm,

I copy /sbbs/repo/ctrl/text.dat

to overwrite my /sbbs/ctrl/text.dat and restart subs.

8-)
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Hiya again Rob,

Yep you were correct. 8-)

Replacing the text.dat with the one from the latest git worked.

That would have occurred because when I migrated to Debian last week, I did a fresh install of SBBS from git and migrated my data from the old BBS (ie. ctrl data etc.)

Apart from that weird text.dat problem, everything seems to be working great. 8-)

Thanks again for your help.

I guess it wansn't a bug after all. 8-)
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Re: Strange Behaviour
By: Keith Matthews to Digital Man on Fri Jan 21 2022 03:19 pm

Hiya Rob,

So just to confirm,

I copy /sbbs/repo/ctrl/text.dat

to overwrite my /sbbs/ctrl/text.dat and restart subs.

Correct. A restart of sbbs isn't strictly needed (a recycle is all that is required), but that'll work too.
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