does anyone knwow how to add fsxNet to synchronet?
I can't find much info anywhre ...
does anyone knwow how to add fsxNet to synchronet?
I can't find much info anywhre ...
thanks
F3
Alternatively, you can run 'jsexec init-fidonet' and choose '21' (fsxNet) from its options.
There's a few SysOps running synchronet on there. I'll post a message asking one of them, or Avon (the guy who built/runs fsxNet), to contact you. :)
Re: Re: fsxNet
By: Shaun Buzza to Fr333n3rgy on Mon Jan 17 2022 06:09 pm
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Re: Re: fsxNet
By: Shaun Buzza to Fr333n3rgy on Mon Jan 17 2022 06:09 pm
There's a few SysOps running synchronet on there. I'll post a message asking one of them, or Avon (the guy who built/runs fsxNet), to contact you. :)
Thanks Shaun, Digital Man got back to me so I am almost there ... Just looking on how to triger a feed manually, I know there is a file to "touch" to trigger it somewhere ...
Thanks Shaun, Digital Man got back to me so I am almost there ... Just looking on how to triger a feed manually, I know there is a file to "touch" to trigger it somewhere ...
I think once I get this sorted, I should be able to add all other others
-- Kind of sad that docs / support sites are scarse when it come to BBSs beside the software authors of course (thank god for them!).
I'm just one of those guys that rather not bother people and prefer to just figure things out by searching but in this case, info is scarce.
You first need your hub to setup a configuration (e.g. password) for
your node and possibly assign you a node address. Do you have a node address yet? --
Anyone can use 21:1/999 as a temporary node on fsxNet.
any chance you could ssh in my system to see why fsxNet is not
downloading any of the areas? I can give you root access and perhaps we can have this sorted out as its driving me nuts ...
You first need your hub to setup a configuration (e.g. password) for your node and possibly assign you a node address. Do you have a node address yet? --
Anyone can use 21:1/999 as a temporary node on fsxNet.
Hi DM,
any chance you could ssh in my system to see why fsxNet is not downloading any of the areas? I can give you root access and perhaps we can have this sorted out as its driving me nuts ...
any chance you could ssh in my system to see why fsxNet is not
downloading any of the areas? I can give you root access and perhaps
we can have this sorted out as its driving me nuts ...
Were you born stupid, or are you just a gifted actor? (@_@)
NEVER give ANYONE root access!
I appreciate that you're trying to help, but that wasn't the question.
He needs to be assigned a permanent node number by the hub. That's part
of the process that the init-fidonet.js script will take him through: sending an email or netmail, using a /9999 temporary node address if necessary, to the hub to request his node number assignment and
requested a specific password to use for areafix and BinkP sessions.
--
NEVER give ANYONE root access!
Normally true, but I don't think Digital Man is going to do anything malicious to a Synchronet BBS sysop wanting help..
Shaun Buzza wrote to Fr333n3rgy <=-
Thanks Shaun, Digital Man got back to me so I am almost there ... Just looking on how to triger a feed manually, I know there is a file to "touch" to trigger it somewhere ...
With Mystic, it's the same program: fidopoll
You just use a fsxNet node, instead of a fidonet node. Again, I
don't know anything about SynchroNet...
I think once I get this sorted, I should be able to add all other others
Yes, once you figure out how to add a second net, you will be
able to apply the same lesson to add any other nets.
-- Kind of sad that docs / support sites are scarse when it come to BBSs beside the software authors of course (thank god for them!).
You're forgetting something important: BBS software, for the most
part, is 'abandonware'. Yes, there are people still working on
this, like SynchroNet and Mystic. But, the average netizen today
(with an average age of 18 (o_O) ) has never heard of BBSes.
However, you're going to have a somewhat different experience,
once you join fsxNet. Most of us are more than happy to help you
enjoy your new hobby! Avon, the guy who built fsxNet, is very
active. And he knows a hell of a lot more than I do.
I'm just one of those guys that rather not bother people and prefer to just figure things out by searching but in this case, info is scarce.
Stop being one of those guys. You're going to have problems. And
Google can't help you. I know, because I've had problems that
Google couldn't help me with!
Shaun Buzza wrote to Fr333n3rgy <=-
any chance you could ssh in my system to see why fsxNet is not
downloading any of the areas? I can give you root access and perhaps we can have this sorted out as its driving me nuts ...
Were you born stupid, or are you just a gifted actor? (@_@)
NEVER give ANYONE root access!
Let me direct you to a video I used to add a second network to
Mystic. Again, you're going to have to make the translation to
SynchroNet, but the idea is the same:
Shaun Buzza wrote to Digital Man <=-
I appreciate that you're trying to help, but that wasn't the question.
He needs to be assigned a permanent node number by the hub. That's part
of the process that the init-fidonet.js script will take him through: sending an email or netmail, using a /9999 temporary node address if necessary, to the hub to request his node number assignment and
requested a specific password to use for areafix and BinkP sessions.
--
I am indeed trying to help.
Shaun Buzza wrote to Nightfox <=-
NEVER give ANYONE root access!
Normally true, but I don't think Digital Man is going to do anything malicious to a Synchronet BBS sysop wanting help..
ESPECIALLY TRUE on Fidonet!!! \(@_@)/
We both know how many a$$holes are on here!
Normally true, but I don't think Digital Man is going to do anything
malicious to a Synchronet BBS sysop wanting help..
ESPECIALLY TRUE on Fidonet!!! \(@_@)/
We both know how many a$$holes are on here!
Stop being one of those guys. You're going to have problems. And Google can't help you. I know, because I've had problems that Google couldn't help me with!haha... What next, stop and as for directions instead of guessing where to drive LOL...
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Re: Re: fsxNet
By: Shaun Buzza to Fr333n3rgy on Mon Jan 17 2022 06:09 pm
There's a few SysOps running synchronet on there. I'll post a message asking one of them, or Avon (the guy who built/runs fsxNet), to contact you. :)
Thanks Shaun, Digital Man got back to me so I am almost there ... Just looking on how to triger a feed manually, I know there is a file to "touch" to trigger it somewhere ...
I think once I get this sorted, I should be able to add all other
others -- Kind of sad that docs / support sites are scarse when it come
to BBSs beside the software authors of course (thank god for them!).
I'm just one of those guys that rather not bother people and prefer to just figure things out by searching but in this case, info is scarce.
On a side-note I think with all the dramas of online social medias
these days, BBS forums may be coming back as one of the few uncensored medium (good and bad as that is) so I want to get this setup nicely and easily, maybe do a couple of phone apps to make it more accessible to others.
Anyway, thanks again for the follow-up
F3
Were you born stupid, or are you just a gifted actor? (@_@)
NEVER give ANYONE root access!
Any chance you could share what stage of the process you're in? You said you ran init-fidonet.js, but didn't say what you answered for its questions or
Normally true, but I don't think Digital Man is going to do anything malicious to a Synchronet BBS sysop wanting help..
Stop being one of those guys. You're going to have problems. And Google can't help you. I know, because I've had problems that Google couldn't me with!haha... What next, stop and as for directions instead of guessing where
to drive LOL...
Funny as I used to run a BBS back in Australia when I was in my 20s (before I moved to the USA) and I rememeber I was on FidoNet and all ...
a very long time
ago.
In any case, I guess I a persisting with this since it's hard and not because it's easy ... Being a developer and all ...
Thanks again for the help. :)
Anyway this is now sorted, software has hits quirks that needs to be ironed out so it tooke me a few tries to get it to cooperate.
Social Internet. I know a few people who want this alternative, but the options to telnet in, especially on mobile are few.
Can you be more specific: Which software? What quirks?
Synchronet -- the one I have noticed today is that I have a message area called unknown - it collects unknow messages that don't have a home. It collected 184 messages, so i added the correct area, retossed and messages went into their places.
However that unknown area still shows 184 messages as its counter but of course when I R(ead) it says (rightly) that there are no messages - since they were tossed where they should have been.
Re: fsxNet
By: Digital Man to Fr333n3rgy on Wed Jan 19 2022 11:55 am
Can you be more specific: Which software? What quirks?
Synchronet -- the one I have noticed today is that I have a message area called unknown - it collects unknow messages that don't have a home. It collected 184 messages, so i added the correct area, retossed and messages went into their places.
However that unknown area still shows 184 messages as its counter but of course when I R(ead) it says (rightly) that there are no messages - since they were tossed where they should have been.
To me this is a bug. If an area has no messages, it should show 0 messages and not 184 ...
Anyway as I said these are little quirks and I truly appreaciate the software so thanks.
However that unknown area still shows 184 messages as its counter but of course when I R(ead) it says (rightly) that there are no messages - since they were tossed where they should have been.
Tossed by you? Or tossed by Synchronet somehow?
Synchronet -- the one I have noticed today is that I have a message
area called unknown - it collects unknow messages that don't have a
home. It collected 184 messages, so i added the correct area,
retossed and messages went into their places.
A message area that "collects" messages? I'm not sure what you mean..
In FidoNet jargon, "toss" means to export.
The message is still there and could be undeleted if you wished. If/when you run the message base maintenance event (normally run weekly), those messages
I thought you were saying there were quirks that "need to be ironed out" that preventing you from joining FTN networks successfully (the subject of this thread). I guess I just misunderstood your statement .
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Re: Re: fsxNet
By: Dennis Katsonis to Fr333n3rgy on Wed Jan 19 2022 03:05 pm
Social Internet. I know a few people who want this alternative, but the options to telnet in, especially on mobile are few.
Once I get my net setup I plan to develop an iOS/Swioft native app to browse through the forums/post with a similar interface like social
media, with the difference that the content is not controlled by big
tech. I plan for the app to run on iPhone and iPad (maybe I'll do it on Android but last Android App i did was 3 years ago - we'll see).
I think that if we make this easier to interact, this could very well
be a real viable option - and yes, I would add a "mute" button to mute convos/senders you rather not hear about.
Anyway, just a thought, and of course I'm working so it'll be a side-thing. Let me know if you or anyone think this would be a worth
wile time-investment to develop
F3
However that unknown area still shows 184 messages as its counter but course when I R(ead) it says (rightly) that there are no messages - s they were tossed where they should have been.
Tossed by you? Or tossed by Synchronet somehow?
On 01-19-22 15:05, Dennis Katsonis wrote to Fr333n3rgy <=-
I was thinking the exact same thing, a refuge from Silicon Valleys Dystopian Social Internet. I know a few people who want this
alternative, but the options to telnet in, especially on mobile are
few.
On 01-19-22 13:55, Fr333n3rgy wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-
Anyway, just a thought, and of course I'm working so it'll be a side-thing. Let me know if you or anyone think this would be a worth
wile time-investment to develop
Need a tester? :)
I'll start an area and share access to it as not to keep spamming here.
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On 01-19-22 15:05, Dennis Katsonis wrote to Fr333n3rgy <=-
I was thinking the exact same thing, a refuge from Silicon Valleys Dystopian Social Internet. I know a few people who want this
alternative, but the options to telnet in, especially on mobile are
few.
Mobile access to BBSs is a big gap. While in its purest form, BBS technology couldn't support mobile connectivity easily (without clunky telnet clients), I think there is good cause for compromise here with
more mobile friendly clients. I can see at least two possible levels - mail/file clients that can interface to existing BBSs (using
QWK/Bluewave for mail), and a more fully integrated setup that uses a
more modern API (which could be interfaced to BBS software currently
under development, like Synchronet, etc).
Need a tester? :)Hey Tony,
own BBS. And so, I hope you keep posting here, because I'm interested in hearing about your progress.
On 01-21-22 10:10, Fr333n3rgy wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Re: Re: fsxNet
By: Tony Langdon to Fr333n3rgy on Fri Jan 21 2022 10:46 am
Need a tester? :)
Definately will need - I've noted your name. thanks.
I think the first part will the the API as suggested and then use that
API for the phone/tablet app to render the messages.
I'll start an area and share access to it as not to keep spamming here.
On 01-22-22 10:30, Dennis Katsonis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
The problem is the BBS system works on the assumption that the
connection to the BBS, and the connection to the external world is one
and the same. The Internet changed that because it wasn't specifically one program that was connected to the Internet, it was your OS. So individual programs could communiate concurrently and independently.
With a BBS, you open up a "portal", which must be open to use the features. Log out, and you miss any future chats or messages, even
though you are still "online".
I don't think there is a solution to this problem that is neat enough, aside from having multiple clients (such as a chat program, messaging program) that can somehow work conncurrently with the BBS, but then we
are just reinventing the Internet.
The reason I still like the BBS is because it does have a niche, and
that is because it is a private, discrete community, flexible in
capacity. It offers a community access to common features, they can
chat, message, share the same news and files. You can do that on the internet, but chat, message boards, file sharing, they are all seperate communities. The BBS brings things down to a human level.
On 01-21-22 11:59, Dennis Katsonis wrote to Fr333n3rgy <=-
It might be. Of course, the user base will be small. I was thinking
of some kind of 'gateway' that a BBS could run, expose like a basic API
to access the message areas.
One thing you could do, is just create an offline QWK reader for
mobile. The challenge is getting the QWK packet from the BBS in the
first place. I think if you can get a QWK packet easily, the rest is a doddle.
On 01-22-22 14:27, Fr333n3rgy wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Re: Re: fsxNet
By: Tony Langdon to Fr333n3rgy on Fri Jan 21 2022 10:46 am
Need a tester? :)
Hey Tony,
I have the first iteration of the BBS API done you can see some basic
docs on theoraclebbs.com just click on the API button.
Once I've setup the registration screen I'll shoot you the URL and
you'll be able to start playing with the API.
Bluewave running in Magic DOSBox on Android, but even then I still had to use FTP to upload, because there's an issue uploading over the serial emulation that DOSBox uses. :/
On 01-23-22 23:53, Digital Man wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Re: Re: fsxNet
By: Tony Langdon to Dennis Katsonis on Sun Jan 23 2022 07:05 am
Bluewave running in Magic DOSBox on Android, but even then I still had to use FTP to upload, because there's an issue uploading over the serial emulation that DOSBox uses. :/
I think those issues have been root-caused and addressed: https://github.com/dosbox-staging/dosbox-staging/issues/581
On 01-23-22 23:53, Digital Man wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Re: Re: fsxNet
By: Tony Langdon to Dennis Katsonis on Sun Jan 23 2022 07:05 am
Bluewave running in Magic DOSBox on Android, but even then I still had to use FTP to upload, because there's an issue uploading over the serial emulation that DOSBox uses. :/
I think those issues have been root-caused and addressed: https://github.com/dosbox-staging/dosbox-staging/issues/581
Whether they've propagated through to Magic DOSBox is another question. Magic DOSBox was the only one that I found that even had serial support.
And I never had any issues with downloads, only uploads.
On 01-24-22 00:35, Digital Man wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I'm not familiar with Magic DOSBox, so dunno.
If you connect to a recent Synchronet version (I think 3.18 or later),
it should auto-detect a raw TCP (non-Telnet) connection and make the
fixes mentioned in that github issue irrelevant. But most BBSes
(including older Synchronet versions) would assume that anything connecting to its Telnet port is in fact a Telnet client and if it
wasn't (as DOSBox would default to *not* perform Telnet), then file transfers in either direction would be hit and miss.
You could fix this with special configuration or init strings, but they certainly weren't documented or implemented very well in the original
| Sysop: | Keyop |
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