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  • BBSing on early WinXP era systems

    From Bob Worm to All on Fri Aug 8 21:47:44 2025
    Hi, all.

    I am very self-aware posting a Windows XP question in the Retro Computers echo but mainline support did end over 16 years ago. OK, there was a patch that came out in 2019 but anyway...

    I've been given a couple of XP era computers which very much fall into the "too old to be useful, too new to be interesting" category. Can anyone recommend some decent software for BBSing on XP? Even via serial would be fine, I'm a touch apprehensive about connecting those things to the Internet via IP.

    Thanks,

    BobW
  • From Warpslide@21:3/110 to Bob Worm on Fri Aug 8 16:55:48 2025
    On 08 Aug 2025, Bob Worm said the following...

    I've been given a couple of XP era computers which very much fall into
    the "too old to be useful, too new to be interesting" category. Can
    anyone recommend some decent software for BBSing on XP? Even via serial would be fine, I'm a touch apprehensive about connecting those things to the Internet via IP.

    I run my Telegard system on a Windows XP VM. I was running it on a Windows 10 32bit VM and it worked... mostly. Every now & then on Windows 10 something weird would happen, mostly when running a door. Whether it was LORD or IceEdit things would crash or hang. That's all gone away since putting the same setup on a Windows XP VM.

    I have Netfossil & net2bbs running to accept telnet connections and it seems to be fine.

    You can open up IE and browse to http://legacyupdate.net on those machines to make sure it has all of the latest updates that were available to XP. Not that it would make it more secure in 2025, but might as well for any bug fixes.


    Jay

    ... Whoever invented the knock-knock joke should get a no bell prize

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  • From deon@21:2/116 to Bob Worm on Sat Aug 9 08:37:00 2025
    Re: BBSing on early WinXP era systems
    By: Bob Worm to All on Fri Aug 08 2025 09:47 pm

    Howdy,

    I've been given a couple of XP era computers which very much fall into the "too old to be useful, too new to be interesting" category. Can anyone recommend some decent software for BBSing on XP? Even via serial would be

    You could run any DOS based BBS no?

    I've got Ezycom here at home - but that's on OS/2 now, but I think there has been work on telegard recently...


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  • From Exodus@21:1/144 to Bob Worm on Fri Aug 8 18:55:46 2025
    I've been given a couple of XP era computers which very much fall into the "too old to be useful, too new to be interesting" category. Can anyone recommend some decent software for BBSing on XP? Even via serial would be

    www.rgbbs.info

    ... Hee, hee, eees beeg trouble for moose and squirrel...

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  • From Bob Worm to deon on Sat Aug 9 21:12:17 2025
    Re: BBSing on early WinXP era systems
    By: deon to Bob Worm on Sat Aug 09 2025 08:37:00

    Hi, all.

    Thanks for the suggestions - I gave you a bum steer asking about "BBSing" - I should rather have said I'm looking for good terminal software!

    No plans to host!

    Cheers,

    BobW
  • From Warpslide@21:3/110 to Bob Worm on Sat Aug 9 16:43:38 2025
    On 09 Aug 2025, Bob Worm said the following...

    Thanks for the suggestions - I gave you a bum steer asking about
    "BBSing" - I should rather have said I'm looking for good terminal software!

    No plans to host!

    Telix was my go-to back in the day:

    https://nrbbs.net/TLX351R.ZIP


    Jay

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  • From Exodus@21:1/144 to Bob Worm on Sat Aug 9 17:58:27 2025
    Thanks for the suggestions - I gave you a bum steer asking about "BBSing" should rather have said I'm looking for good terminal software!

    http://www.rgbbs.info/links.html

    mTelnet works great under XP.

    ... I still miss my exwife, but my aim is getting better...

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  • From Bob Worm to Exodus on Sat Aug 9 23:36:53 2025
    Re: Re: BBSing on early WinXP era systems
    By: Exodus to Bob Worm on Sat Aug 09 2025 17:58:27

    http://www.rgbbs.info/links.html
    mTelnet works great under XP.

    Thanks, Exodus - will give it a try!

    BobW
  • From Bob Worm to Warpslide on Sat Aug 9 23:37:46 2025
    Re: Re: BBSing on early WinXP era systems
    By: Warpslide to Bob Worm on Sat Aug 09 2025 16:43:38

    Hi, Warpslide.

    Telix was my go-to back in the day:
    https://nrbbs.net/TLX351R.ZIP

    Thanks for the tip - I shall give it a try.

    BobW
  • From phigan@21:1/141 to Bob Worm on Mon Aug 11 21:00:55 2025
    some decent software for BBSing on XP? Even via serial would be fine,

    Have you tried good ol' Telix or Telemate? I don't remember if they run well under XP or not, but it's worth a shot. Windows terminals mostly suck, but I remember liking SecureCRT. Putty is ok. With both of those you'd have to configure specifically with Terminal font and CP437 encoding, because those aren't the defaults.

    I'm going to see if I have the archives for Telix and Telemate here still (I'm using Telix right now) and make sure they're on my board.

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  • From Bob Worm to phigan on Mon Aug 11 16:44:59 2025
    Re: BBSing on early WinXP era systems
    By: phigan to Bob Worm on Mon Aug 11 2025 21:00:55

    I'm going to see if I have the archives for Telix and Telemate here still (I'm using Telix right now) and make sure they're on my board.

    Cheers, Phigan. I'll give that a bash when I next get one of the XP things out.

    BobW
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to phigan on Mon Aug 11 08:51:49 2025
    phigan wrote to Bob Worm <=-

    some decent software for BBSing on XP? Even via serial would be fine,

    Have you tried good ol' Telix or Telemate? I don't remember if they run well under XP or not, but it's worth a shot.

    Procomm Plus for Windows was nice - resizable, rescalable screens and
    decent ANSI emulation. I'm sure there are some old copies floating
    around the aether.

    There was a Telix for Windows, I don't remember much about it except
    for it using the same "bloop boop beep" connect sound.

    I was doing work on systems that needed full VT220 emulation, and
    Procomm Plus for DOS/Windows were the only common apps that provided a
    decent emulation.


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  • From Exodus@21:1/144 to Phigan on Mon Aug 11 15:59:33 2025


    I'm going to see if I have the archives for Telix and Telemate here still ( using Telix right now) and make sure they're on my board.

    They're over here if you need them.

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  • From kirkspragg@21:2/150 to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Aug 11 20:40:40 2025
    Procomm Plus for Windows was nice - resizable, rescalable screens and
    decent ANSI emulation. I'm sure there are some old copies floating
    around the aether.

    I use procom plus for windows myself on my win 3.1 rig. Its the only terminal emulator I've found thus far that has decent ANSI emulation & has telnet support that will run on win 3.1. It works rather well to be honest.

    I wonder if the more recent versions of it will run in win xp without needed
    to be run in a VM?

    I know for a fact that procom plus 2 for windows will work in win 10 using otvdm/winevdm (mendelson.org/otvdm.html), I tried it in the weekend and it runs just fine which surprised me. I wonder if that would work in win xp??

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  • From Bob Worm to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Aug 12 17:39:13 2025
    Re: Re: BBSing on early WinXP era systems
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to phigan on Mon Aug 11 2025 08:51:49

    Procomm Plus for Windows was nice - resizable, rescalable screens and
    decent ANSI emulation. I'm sure there are some old copies floating
    around the aether.

    I was just ranting on Phigan's board about the amount of effort it takes to get off the starting blocks with Windows XP. It can't do modern SSL / TLS ciphers so even on the newest version of Chrome it will run you can't open half of the Internet. Even most retro style terminals live on GiHub or Sourceforge, which basically don't work on XP.

    After many attempts at various softwares (lynx browser, Syncterm, etc, etc) I've now got Netrunner up and running, with thanks to Winrar from archive.org. It makes this laptop run hot as hell but at least now I have x/y/zmodem and can try pulling something a bit kinder off a BBS somewhere.

    Procomm Plus would definitely tick my nostalgia box - I am pretty sure it was Procomm Plus that my dad used when I got to watch him connect to a BBS once in the late 80s / early 90s.

    Thanks, everyone, for the suggestions.

    BobW