Windows 11 will soon add your Android phone to File Explorer https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206712/microsoft-windows-11-file-explorer-android-phone-feature
"The integration in File Explorer means your Android device appears just like a regular USB device on the left-hand side, with the ability to copy
or move files between a PC and Android phone, and rename or delete them.
...
Windows 11 will soon add your Android phone to File Explorer
https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206712/microsoft-windows-11-file-explorer-android-phone-feature
"The integration in File Explorer means your Android device appears just
like a regular USB device on the left-hand side, with the ability to copy
or move files between a PC and Android phone, and rename or delete them.
...
Microsoft is retrofitting the feature to Windows 10, so your post is
on-topic to the Windows 10 newsgroup to which you cross-posted?
Windows 11 will soon add your Android phone to File Explorer https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206712/microsoft-windows-11-file-explorer-android-phone-feature
"The integration in File Explorer means your Android device appears just like a regular USB device on the left-hand side, with the ability to copy
or move files between a PC and Android phone, and rename or delete them.
Windows 11 now lets you access Android phones via File Explorer https://www.pcworld.com/article/2410814/soon-it-will-be-easier-to-move-files-between-android-mobiles-and-windows-11-pcs.html
"Not only will you be able to view what's on your phone, but you'll also
be able to move, copy, delete, rename, and even open directly without first bringing files and folders over to your PC.
The best part is that you won't even need a USB cable for this. You can access your Android phone wirelessly, which is fantastic news for anyone
who needs to work with their phone via Windows regularly."
To enable this experience, go to Settings > Bluetooth & devices > Mobile Devices and choose "Manage devices" and allow your PC to access your
Android phone. You'll then be able to see a toggle to show your phone in
File Explorer. If you do not see this toggle, that means the experience hasn't yet rolled out to you yet."
Does anyone know if this will also work for iOS devices on Windows 11?
VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
Windows 11 will soon add your Android phone to File Explorer
https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206712/microsoft-windows-11-file-explorer-android-phone-feature
"The integration in File Explorer means your Android device appears just >>> like a regular USB device on the left-hand side, with the ability to copy >>> or move files between a PC and Android phone, and rename or delete them. >>> ...
Microsoft is retrofitting the feature to Windows 10, so your post is
on-topic to the Windows 10 newsgroup to which you cross-posted?
Windows 10 also has the capability of making an Android appear in the
Windows 10 file explorer making its filesys appear as a regular drive.
https://i.postimg.cc/6371SxNd/mountandroidonwindows.jpg
Windows 10 also has the capability of making an Android appear in the
Windows 10 file explorer making its filesys appear as a regular drive.
https://i.postimg.cc/6371SxNd/mountandroidonwindows.jpg
No - this is *not* "making Android appear in Windos 10" but "using an
app in Android to provide a network share which can be used in Windows
as well".
Using Cx File Explorer I can also share files on my Android device with nearly *any* other computer by providing file access over the network
via FTP. But this is not the same as "Windows 11 can add Android devices
in the File Explorer".
Does anyone know if this will also work for iOS devices on Windows 11?
Not very likely since Apple may not want this - accessing a device
without their proprietary software.
Already on Win10 the whole accessible Android file system becomes a Windows drive letter, which means all your Windows scripts & File Explorers work.
Already on Win10 the whole accessible Android file system becomes a Windows >> drive letter, which means all your Windows scripts & File Explorers work.
How on earth do you make that happen. I have Widows 10, and when I
plug in a USB cable between my phone and my desktop PC, I get the
usual "setting up device" notification on my PC, then a prompt on the
phone to allow the PC to access phone data. "Galaxy A54 5G" is in my
list of drives in File Explorer, preceding C:, but if it was assigned
a letter that letter sure isn't showing.
I even tried dir: for A:] through Z:\, but every letter except my
actual drives showed an error message to the effect that the system
could not find the file.
Arno Welzel wrote on Mon, 5 Aug 2024 19:53:04 +0200 :
Does anyone know if this will also work for iOS devices on Windows 11?
Not very likely since Apple may not want this - accessing a device
without their proprietary software.
If you boot to Linux, the iFuse file system will mount any iOS device.
So it's only Windows that doesn't work well with iOS devices.
<https://i.postimg.cc/s2x0f9Js/files14.jpg> linux, win10 & iOS together
<https://i.postimg.cc/g269S8rT/files13.jpg> How does macOS work with iOS?
<https://i.postimg.cc/pVJf72fN/files12.jpg> iOS hacks very often will fail
<https://i.postimg.cc/cChf8mx1/files11.jpg> iOS requires hacks to copy
<https://i.postimg.cc/9MGdc2s7/files10.jpg> Android is 2-way fast over USB
<https://i.postimg.cc/mDx3xkp4/files09.jpg> iOS is only DCIM & only 1-way
<https://i.postimg.cc/3xcCBngd/files08.jpg> iOS is a dumb brick on Windows
<https://i.postimg.cc/KjK4nHwf/files07.jpg> Ubuntu is two-way, everything
<https://i.postimg.cc/Jhmy9KH7/files06.jpg> Ubuntu iFuse is just magical
<https://i.postimg.cc/qqg61Rh8/files05.jpg> Ubuntu, movies _to_ iOS on USB
<https://i.postimg.cc/QMk7tvZW/files04.jpg> Ubuntu is two way, everything
<https://i.postimg.cc/d3SGkdgr/files03.jpg> Android is two way, everything
<https://i.postimg.cc/L8b18Zmx/files02.jpg> iOS "Files" is nothing useful
<https://i.postimg.cc/NFkXsJ0X/files01.jpg> iOS/Win is 1-way & DCIM only
If Windows had iFuse, then Windows would work as well as Linux with iOS.
Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:
Already on Win10 the whole accessible Android file system becomes a Windows
drive letter, which means all your Windows scripts & File Explorers work.
How on earth do you make that happen. I have Widows 10, and when I
plug in a USB cable between my phone and my desktop PC, I get the
usual "setting up device" notification on my PC, then a prompt on the
phone to allow the PC to access phone data. "Galaxy A54 5G" is in my
list of drives in File Explorer, preceding C:, but if it was assigned
a letter that letter sure isn't showing.
I even tried dir: for A:\ through Z:\, but every letter except my
actual drives showed an error message to the effect that the system
could not find the file.
Once you set it up, your Android phone is a permanent drive letter on Windows, as long as both your Windows PC & Android are on your Wi-Fi.
https://viterbiit.usc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/How-to-Use-Net-Use-Command.pdf
All you do is set up a webdav server on Android such as this one.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.theolivetree.webdavserver
If you need another card mounted, set up another webdav server separately.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zq.webdav.app_free
Others exist, but each webdav server has its own setup quirks to deal with.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slowscript.httpfileserver
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smestorage
Then mount that share onto Windows as a drive letter.
net use I: \\192.168.0.2@8000\DavWWWRoot
If you want to add a username & password, just add that to the command.
/USER:stan mypasswd
If you want to make it permanent, then just add /persistent to the command.
https://it.cornell.edu/shared-file/map-drive-using-net-use
Where I work, everyone does this where the instant they enter the office building and connect to the Wi-Fi, their phone is already mounted as a
drive letter onto their Windows PC waiting for them to use it on the PC.
All their Windows scripts operate on the Android phone as if it's a Windows file system which makes Android files indistinguishable from Windows files.
They also use scrcpy/sndcpy so that the phone is operated from the PC
(even when the phone is always sitting in their pocket but on Wi-Fi).
That seems to be about assigning a drive letter to a network share.
As far as I understand it, the phone is not a network share.
Certainly I don't intend for it to be accessible to anyone on my
Wifi.
But I think I misunderstood your basic point. From what you said
(quoted above), it sure looked to me like this was an automatic
feature of Windows 10 and 11. Now you're saying I have to install and configure a server on my phone.
I was forced to use Webdav some years ago. Not only could I not get
it to work, but my college's IT department (which mandated using
Webdav) couldn't either.
Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:
That seems to be about assigning a drive letter to a network share.
As far as I understand it, the phone is not a network share.
The phone is mounted as a network share on Windows as a drive letter.
Certainly I don't intend for it to be accessible to anyone on my
Wifi.
That's why you specify the username & password at the time of connection. Only you have those username & password credentials specific to the share. Obviously don't use /persistent in that case.
You'll have to type the username & password each time you connect.
And then you will want to disconnect when you're done connecting.
To your concern about Wi-Fi access, I think it also works the same on USB. But I haven't tested it as I haven't used USB cable in years and I have no problems operating my entire Android phone as a Windows file system device.
Thanks for your detailed and thoughtful response, Peter (which I've
snipped). I think I understand almost all of it. I'll give it a try
when I have a couple of hours with no interruptions.
Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
Windows 10 also has the capability of making an Android appear in the
Windows 10 file explorer making its filesys appear as a regular drive.
https://i.postimg.cc/6371SxNd/mountandroidonwindows.jpg
No - this is *not* "making Android appear in Windos 10" but "using an
app in Android to provide a network share which can be used in Windows
as well".
Using Cx File Explorer I can also share files on my Android device with
nearly *any* other computer by providing file access over the network
via FTP. But this is not the same as "Windows 11 can add Android devices
in the File Explorer".
How is the Windows 11 functionality different from existing Win10 features?
Already on Win10 the whole accessible Android file system becomes a Windows drive letter, which means all your Windows scripts & File Explorers work.
What does Windows 11 functionality add to that which exists for Windows 10?
On Wed, 7 Aug 2024 17:21:07 +0100, Peter wrote:
Already on Win10 the whole accessible Android file system becomes a Windows >> drive letter, which means all your Windows scripts & File Explorers work.
How on earth do you make that happen. I have Widows 10, and when I
plug in a USB cable between my phone and my desktop PC, I get the
usual "setting up device" notification on my PC, then a prompt on the
phone to allow the PC to access phone data. "Galaxy A54 5G" is in my
list of drives in File Explorer, preceding C:, but if it was assigned
a letter that letter sure isn't showing.
Arno Welzel wrote on Mon, 5 Aug 2024 19:53:04 +0200 :
Does anyone know if this will also work for iOS devices on Windows 11?
Not very likely since Apple may not want this - accessing a device
without their proprietary software.
If you boot to Linux, the iFuse file system will mount any iOS device.
So it's only Windows that doesn't work well with iOS devices.
If Windows had iFuse, then Windows would work as well as Linux with iOS.
Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:
Already on Win10 the whole accessible Android file system becomes a Windows >>> drive letter, which means all your Windows scripts & File Explorers work. >>>
How on earth do you make that happen. I have Widows 10, and when I
plug in a USB cable between my phone and my desktop PC, I get the
usual "setting up device" notification on my PC, then a prompt on the
phone to allow the PC to access phone data. "Galaxy A54 5G" is in my
list of drives in File Explorer, preceding C:, but if it was assigned
a letter that letter sure isn't showing.
I even tried dir: for A:] through Z:\, but every letter except my
actual drives showed an error message to the effect that the system
could not find the file.
Once you set it up, your Android phone is a permanent drive letter on Windows, as long as both your Windows PC & Android are on your Wi-Fi.
https://viterbiit.usc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/How-to-Use-Net-Use-Command.pdf
All you do is set up a webdav server on Android such as this one.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.theolivetree.webdavserver
However you may just enable WSL2 and use Linux inside Windows and access
the iOS filesystem using the "network" path \\wsl$ which links to the
Linux filesystem (including mountpoints provide by iFuse) in WSL2.
Arno Welzel wrote on Sat, 10 Aug 2024 09:32:03 +0200 :id=16562&group=misc.phone.mobile.iphone#16562>
However you may just enable WSL2 and use Linux inside Windows and
access the iOS filesystem using the "network" path \\wsl$ which links
to the Linux filesystem (including mountpoints provide by iFuse) in
WSL2.
This is interesting.
Thanks for that suggestion, which I had not thought of.
It's no longer shocking how difficult Apple makes the simplest things,
and how easy Android is to work with Windows by way of direct 1:1
comparison.
If I can find a step by step tutorial for mounting iOS onto Windows,
that would be useful because lately I have more iOS devices than Android ones.
*I just bought two 10th generation inexpensive iPads for $300 each*
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?
I have been experimenting with them, e.g., I've set one up WITHOUT an AppleID, which I didn't realize was even possible to do (like Windows
11).
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In summary, if there's an easy way to mount the iOS filesystem onto
Windows using WSL iFuse capabilities, then that's something worth
exploring.
I just have to find a tutorial showing me how to do it, that's all.
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