• Why does program open without all of the window visible?

    From micky@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 10 15:00:19 2024
    I don't think I had this problem for the first 10 years I had
    RadioMaximus, (a very good program*** that will play webradio from all
    over the world, with 100's or 1000's of preloaded stations and the
    ability to add your own, and iirc have the author them to the pre-loaded
    list.)

    Now, whenever I start the program it's less than maximized and in the
    bottom right corner of the screen with not all of it showing. I
    supposdly know how to fix this, move it to where I want, enlarge the
    width and height so that it fills the screen and is almost as big as
    maximized, and close the program, and the next time it's supposed to
    start like I left it, but this does not change things.

    None of this is so important or that surprising, but the same program
    does the same thing on the other computer, as if it's built into the
    program and not controlled by Windows. Can this be built in?? and if
    the author did build it in, he wouldn't have used such stupid settings,
    where I can't see the whole window.

    What's going on?

    ***It's free for most purposes. It will record what you are listening
    to, but if you want it to do timed records, you have to pay a modest
    amount. I had a radio program on every Sunday night from 7 to 11, The
    Big Broadcast, with radio shows from the 40's and 50's, including Johnny Dollar, insurance detective with the action-packed expense account, and
    it would record them for me. It was great. I still have a set of them.
    (though now you can play from the web archives also, but I don't know
    how to record that while I'm playing it.)

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to micky on Sun Nov 10 15:18:51 2024
    On Sun, 11/10/2024 3:00 PM, micky wrote:
    I don't think I had this problem for the first 10 years I had
    RadioMaximus, (a very good program*** that will play webradio from all
    over the world, with 100's or 1000's of preloaded stations and the
    ability to add your own, and iirc have the author them to the pre-loaded list.)

    Now, whenever I start the program it's less than maximized and in the
    bottom right corner of the screen with not all of it showing. I
    supposdly know how to fix this, move it to where I want, enlarge the
    width and height so that it fills the screen and is almost as big as maximized, and close the program, and the next time it's supposed to
    start like I left it, but this does not change things.

    None of this is so important or that surprising, but the same program
    does the same thing on the other computer, as if it's built into the
    program and not controlled by Windows. Can this be built in?? and if
    the author did build it in, he wouldn't have used such stupid settings,
    where I can't see the whole window.

    What's going on?

    ***It's free for most purposes. It will record what you are listening
    to, but if you want it to do timed records, you have to pay a modest
    amount. I had a radio program on every Sunday night from 7 to 11, The
    Big Broadcast, with radio shows from the 40's and 50's, including Johnny Dollar, insurance detective with the action-packed expense account, and
    it would record them for me. It was great. I still have a set of them. (though now you can play from the web archives also, but I don't know
    how to record that while I'm playing it.)


    It claims to have an option to install it in a "Portable" way.

    This implies the storage will be in a folder somewhere,
    other than where the storage is currently.

    The program spans WInXP, so it is compatible with WinXP.
    Some programs, to save their settings, they write to Program Files
    folder, and the preferences file could be there.

    In the Vista era, a bypass was placed in Program Files. When a program
    writes to Program Files, the write is redirected to a folder the user
    owns. It could be ProgramData or AppData for example. If that workaround
    still exists, then it should still work to "keep the program happy".

    So there you have it:

    1) Valid places to write. AppData or the Registry come to mind.
    The Registry is a popular place for XYWH. WinXP era code knows
    nothing about AppData. Thus, changing the program to support
    a multitude of locations (as the practice changed with OS version),
    developers don't like to do that. They would use AppData if WinXP
    support was dropped.

    2) Invalid places to write, but with a bypass, nothing is lost.
    Writing in Program Files has not been recommended
    for new program design, for many years.

    3) A Portable installation format. This is a folder in your profile
    somewhere, where not only the program can live, the preferences
    could live also.

    The XYWH thing, could be a loader-supported feature. Perhaps
    someone else knows the details. What's supposed to happen, is
    returning to the same position should be supported to some
    extent, by the OS and how it officially handles XYWH. If the OS played
    a part, a program would never open "off-screen" entirely, like it
    could do in the old days. To a certain extent, tiling properties
    and "snap" behaviors, tend to help programs stay entirely on screen,
    even if they haven't exactly remembered your preferences.

    Paul

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to nospam@needed.invalid on Mon Nov 11 13:09:54 2024
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 10 Nov 2024 15:18:51 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On Sun, 11/10/2024 3:00 PM, micky wrote:
    I don't think I had this problem for the first 10 years I had
    RadioMaximus, (a very good program*** that will play webradio from all
    over the world, with 100's or 1000's of preloaded stations and the
    ability to add your own, and iirc have the author them to the pre-loaded
    list.)

    Now, whenever I start the program it's less than maximized and in the
    bottom right corner of the screen with not all of it showing. I
    supposdly know how to fix this, move it to where I want, enlarge the
    width and height so that it fills the screen and is almost as big as
    maximized, and close the program, and the next time it's supposed to
    start like I left it, but this does not change things.

    None of this is so important or that surprising, but the same program
    does the same thing on the other computer, as if it's built into the
    program and not controlled by Windows. Can this be built in?? and if
    the author did build it in, he wouldn't have used such stupid settings,
    where I can't see the whole window.

    What's going on?

    ***It's free for most purposes. It will record what you are listening
    to, but if you want it to do timed records, you have to pay a modest
    amount. I had a radio program on every Sunday night from 7 to 11, The
    Big Broadcast, with radio shows from the 40's and 50's, including Johnny
    Dollar, insurance detective with the action-packed expense account, and
    it would record them for me. It was great. I still have a set of them.
    (though now you can play from the web archives also, but I don't know
    how to record that while I'm playing it.)


    It claims to have an option to install it in a "Portable" way.

    This implies the storage will be in a folder somewhere,
    other than where the storage is currently.

    The program spans WInXP, so it is compatible with WinXP.
    Some programs, to save their settings, they write to Program Files
    folder, and the preferences file could be there.

    In the Vista era, a bypass was placed in Program Files. When a program
    writes to Program Files, the write is redirected to a folder the user
    owns. It could be ProgramData or AppData for example. If that workaround >still exists, then it should still work to "keep the program happy".

    So there you have it:

    1) Valid places to write. AppData or the Registry come to mind.
    The Registry is a popular place for XYWH. WinXP era code knows
    nothing about AppData. Thus, changing the program to support
    a multitude of locations (as the practice changed with OS version),
    developers don't like to do that. They would use AppData if WinXP
    support was dropped.

    2) Invalid places to write, but with a bypass, nothing is lost.
    Writing in Program Files has not been recommended
    for new program design, for many years.

    3) A Portable installation format. This is a folder in your profile
    somewhere, where not only the program can live, the preferences
    could live also.

    The XYWH thing, could be a loader-supported feature. Perhaps
    someone else knows the details. What's supposed to happen, is
    returning to the same position should be supported to some
    extent, by the OS and how it officially handles XYWH. If the OS played
    a part, a program would never open "off-screen" entirely, like it
    could do in the old days. To a certain extent, tiling properties
    and "snap" behaviors, tend to help programs stay entirely on screen,
    even if they haven't exactly remembered your preferences.

    Paul

    Thanks. I'm making progress.

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