• =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_Microsoft_stealthily_installs_Windows_10_update_to_na?= =

    From Paul@21:1/5 to Joel on Wed Nov 13 15:34:02 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Wed, 11/13/2024 12:27 PM, Joel wrote:
    https://www.techradar.com/computing/windows/microsoft-stealthily-installs-windows-10-update-to-nag-you-to-upgrade-to-windows-11-and-not-for-the-first-time

    "We should clarify that

    There is no copy of "KB5001716" in the room.

    I even poured a chum bucket off the end of the
    dock, and... "nothing".

    is the sun shining ? Let me check.

    https://www.grc.com/incontrol.htm

    Yes, the sun is shining.

    The skies are not cloudy all day here.

    Paul

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Paul on Wed Nov 20 16:39:16 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Wed, 11/13/2024 3:34 PM, Paul wrote:
    On Wed, 11/13/2024 12:27 PM, Joel wrote:
    https://www.techradar.com/computing/windows/microsoft-stealthily-installs-windows-10-update-to-nag-you-to-upgrade-to-windows-11-and-not-for-the-first-time

    "We should clarify that

    There is no copy of "KB5001716" in the room.

    I even poured a chum bucket off the end of the
    dock, and... "nothing".

    is the sun shining ? Let me check.

    https://www.grc.com/incontrol.htm

    Yes, the sun is shining.

    The skies are not cloudy all day here.

    Paul


    OK, I did manage to reproduce this, as a result of another
    experiment involving virtual machines (Linux Host, Win Guest).

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/mZY3SXgg/W10-Pushy-Update-KB5001716-Band.gif

    As Van already pointed out, if you turn off your TPM in the BIOS for
    example, the area in the red box in the picture, contains a *different*
    prompt. The prompt knows/claims that the box isn't suited to the W11 update, and the URLs in that box, take you to web pages that basically... lead nowhere. Nothing to fear from that box. You can run the PC Health check
    (a separate download of a .msi), and maybe it tells you that
    you have no TPM or something.

    However, I was working on Secure Boot issues in a Guest, and
    trying to emulate a year 2025 "only Secure Boot" setup, where
    the user no longer has choices.

    I turned on the TPM. I turned on the Secure Boot option in the
    BIOS, instead of the normal (CSM) "Other OS" boot option (the
    one used for Win7 or Linux sometimes). I got that light blue
    YeeHaw box in the picture.

    Still fine, not pissed as a Windows user yet.

    Then I reboot and... a banner covers the entire screen. Pressing control-alt-delete has the normal five items. I wanted to select
    Task Manager. There is a flash. And no Task Manager appears. Eventually
    I selected "Sign Out" to escape from the box (without doing a dirty
    shutdown).

    The options in the Ransom Screen are pretty simple. But that's not
    the point. The screen is pushy. It's decide to defer this upgrade
    or start the upgrade right now, kind of thing. Like, I was panicking.
    The thing was, I did a shift-Printscreen and didn't get to keep the
    picture. The band is gone now, and it does not come back. I really should
    have calmed down, and taken a picture with the digital camera.

    *******

    Here is the band I got (if your screen is 1920x1080,
    then this picture is also 1920x1080 and covers the screen):

    https://www.ghacks.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/upgrade-to-windows-11.png

    ( https://www.ghacks.net/2024/03/07/microsofts-sneaky-kb5001716-windows-10-update-pushes-windows-11/ )

    If you turn off TPM or use InControl to control the release number,
    you'll be fine and won't get that.

    Paul

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