I have my taskbar on the bottom, automatically hide mode, and it comes
up whenever I move the cursor down there.

Recently whenever I load Firefox and move the cursor down, it
occasionally doesn't open. But as soon as I do anything with FF (eg.
minimise it or load a webpage) it returns to normal working.
This happens on three different boxes, all 133.0.3 (64-bit).
All other programs seem ok.

Has anybody any idea what's amiss?

Ed

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On Wed, 12/11/2024 5:30 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:

I have my taskbar on the bottom, automatically hide mode, and it comes up whenever I move the cursor down there.

Recently whenever I load Firefox and move the cursor down, it occasionally doesn't open. But as soon as I do anything with FF (eg. minimise it or load a webpage) it returns to normal working.
This happens on three different boxes, all  133.0.3 (64-bit).
All other programs seem ok.

Has anybody any idea what's amiss?

Ed

they made an excessively complicated feature.

Nobody knows for sure, what repairs the auto-descend Task bar behavior.
Only the developer who is not maintaining it, knows.

If I copied in all the associated voodoo, we'd be able to make
a pot of chicken soup. "Restart File Explorer, using Task Manager?"
Rly? what part of the chicken is that ?

There is a suggestion to fool around with the visual effects setting...

https://imgur.com/pshIc4w

Or fool around with a Notification setting that might be responsible.
How many popups is Firefox capable of ? Is there a Firefox popup
you can't even see, interfering with the Task Bar ? Is it a copy of
Explorer Patcher installed on the machine ? In the Settings Wheel,
you can edit your Notifications, to switch most of them off, but
that's not going to affect Firefox, unless Firefox itself
has hooked something Notification-affecting. Make sure Firefox
is set, so it can't put up a Notification.

There are an endless series of leverage points to consider.
and no way to test, without long baseline test procedure, that
any of them work to fix it.

One example, is windows appearing in front of, or behind, he Task Bar.
Even with the Task Bar in the locked, and raised, position. I've seen this
on occasion, and my assumption is, it gets "fixed' on a random Patch Tuesday. It was nothing I did, that improved the statistics on that one.

I would be willing to bet, on an Apple box, absolutely nothing the
user does, affects their Task Bar. The auto-descend only responds to
the mouse position (and whether the screen is in 3D gaming mode perhaps,
where you don't want any cheesy Desktop rubbish, poking through
the 3D veneer). Windows has attached a large amount of
"subsystem rubbish" to their Task Bar, making it about as
safe and reliable as the Shellex Context Right-Click menu
(which used to be Exploit City).

Paul

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Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> writes:

Paul wrote:

On Wed, 12/11/2024 5:30 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:

I have my taskbar on the bottom, automatically hide mode, and it
comes up whenever I move the cursor down there.

Recently whenever I load Firefox and move the cursor down, it
occasionally doesn't open. But as soon as I do anything with FF
(eg. minimise it or load a webpage) it returns to normal working.
This happens on three different boxes, all  133.0.3 (64-bit).
All other programs seem ok.

Has anybody any idea what's amiss?

Ed

they made an excessively complicated feature.
Nobody knows for sure, what repairs the auto-descend Task bar
behavior.
Only the developer who is not maintaining it, knows.
If I copied in all the associated voodoo, we'd be able to make
a pot of chicken soup. "Restart File Explorer, using Task Manager?"
Rly? what part of the chicken is that ?
There is a suggestion to fool around with the visual effects
setting...
https://imgur.com/pshIc4w
Or fool around with a Notification setting that might be
responsible.
How many popups is Firefox capable of ? Is there a Firefox popup
you can't even see, interfering with the Task Bar ? Is it a copy of
Explorer Patcher installed on the machine ? In the Settings Wheel,
you can edit your Notifications, to switch most of them off, but
that's not going to affect Firefox, unless Firefox itself
has hooked something Notification-affecting. Make sure Firefox
is set, so it can't put up a Notification.
There are an endless series of leverage points to consider.
and no way to test, without long baseline test procedure, that
any of them work to fix it.
One example, is windows appearing in front of, or behind, he Task
Bar.
Even with the Task Bar in the locked, and raised, position. I've seen this >> on occasion, and my assumption is, it gets "fixed' on a random Patch Tuesday.
It was nothing I did, that improved the statistics on that one.
I would be willing to bet, on an Apple box, absolutely nothing the
user does, affects their Task Bar. The auto-descend only responds to
the mouse position (and whether the screen is in 3D gaming mode perhaps,
where you don't want any cheesy Desktop rubbish, poking through
the 3D veneer). Windows has attached a large amount of
"subsystem rubbish" to their Task Bar, making it about as
safe and reliable as the Shellex Context Right-Click menu
(which used to be Exploit City).
Paul

I was hoping someone else had got the same problem; and then I could
blame it on Firefox, and wait for them to remove the bug.
Thanks for the time you've given the problem.
The workaround is simply to hit the Windows key on the keyboard. I'll
stick with that rather than trawl through hours of trying this, that
and the other.

I wonder if you could use a different Firefox such as Waterfox. I've
been using it for weeks now. I'm very happy. It's pretty much Firefox.
It could perhaps be used as an alternative because if you own a Firefox account, it can be shared between these browsers. (I don't think they
all share the same features and code. They're not technically the /same
exact/ browser. But I can't be sure, though. Never looked deeply into
it.)

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