• Processor Upgrade

    From Josh@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 24 21:01:54 2024
    What is the logical processor upgrade from the current one I have on a
    machine?

    Somebody discarded a perfectly working PC on the street and I happened
    to pass by to catch a bus and I saw it. I took it home because I wanted
    to use some parts from it. Surprisingly the machine is working so I
    decided to upgrade the ram from some spares I had and the disk needs replacement because it is dodgy. I formatted it and installed Windows 10
    but because the disk is dodgy, it runs but risky. I have ordered a new
    disk and it will arrive in the new year.

    In the meantime, I was also thinking of upgrading the processor to make
    it full proof for the future. The current processor is "Intel(R)
    Core(TM) i5-8500 CPU @ 3.00GHz, 3000 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 6 Logical
    Processor(s)" and thought if I can buy a second hand processor from eBay
    then it will make my day.

    So the question is what do I look for so that the processor would be
    compatible with the board already in the system. This is just a
    preliminary process because I5 processor is not bad as far as I can see.

    I have cleaned the machine and vacuumed it inside and outside and wiped
    the case clean to remove any IDs, finger-prints and anything that I can
    think of. I will resell the machine when done.

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  • From Alan K.@21:1/5 to Josh on Tue Dec 24 17:29:14 2024
    On 12/24/24 04:01 PM, Josh wrote:
    What is the logical processor upgrade from the current one I have on a machine?

    Somebody discarded a perfectly working PC on the street and I happened
    to pass by to catch a bus and I saw it. I took it home because I wanted
    to use some parts from it. Surprisingly the machine is working so I
    decided to upgrade the ram from some spares I had and the disk needs replacement because it is dodgy. I formatted it and installed Windows 10
    but because the disk is dodgy, it runs but risky. I have ordered a new
    disk and it will arrive in the new year.

    In the meantime, I was also thinking of upgrading the processor to make
    it full proof for the future. The current processor is "Intel(R)
    Core(TM) i5-8500 CPU @ 3.00GHz, 3000 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 6 Logical
    Processor(s)" and thought if I can buy a second hand processor from eBay
    then it will make my day.

    So the question is what do I look for so that the processor would be compatible with the board already in the system. This is just a
    preliminary process because I5 processor is not bad as far as I can see.

    I have cleaned the machine and vacuumed it inside and outside and wiped
    the case clean to remove any IDs, finger-prints and anything that I can
    think of. I will resell the machine when done.


    A little google produces https://www.pcguide.com/cpu/guide/best-lga-1151/ You're looking for LGA 1151 compatible chips.

    But if it runs with a new drive and more memory, and I was selling it, I'd pass on the processor
    upgrade. That's me of course.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Josh on Tue Dec 24 18:02:35 2024
    On Tue, 12/24/2024 4:01 PM, Josh wrote:
    What is the logical processor upgrade from the current one I have on a machine?

    Somebody discarded a perfectly working PC on the street and I happened
    to pass by to catch a bus and I saw it. I took it home because I wanted
    to use some parts from it. Surprisingly the machine is working so I
    decided to upgrade the ram from some spares I had and the disk needs replacement because it is dodgy. I formatted it and installed Windows 10
    but because the disk is dodgy, it runs but risky. I have ordered a new
    disk and it will arrive in the new year.

    In the meantime, I was also thinking of upgrading the processor to make
    it full proof for the future. The current processor is "Intel(R)
    Core(TM) i5-8500 CPU @ 3.00GHz, 3000 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 6 Logical
    Processor(s)" and thought if I can buy a second hand processor from eBay
    then it will make my day.

    So the question is what do I look for so that the processor would be compatible with the board already in the system. This is just a
    preliminary process because I5 processor is not bad as far as I can see.

    I have cleaned the machine and vacuumed it inside and outside and wiped
    the case clean to remove any IDs, finger-prints and anything that I can
    think of. I will resell the machine when done.



    You would not do that.

    You got a machine for nothing, where the processor is perfectly good.
    Your resale will be pure profit, the recipient gets a perfectly good machine.

    https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/129939/intel-core-i58500-processor-9m-cache-up-to-4-10-ghz/specifications.html

    i5-8500
    Coffee Lake 8th gen, 6C6T 4.10GHz
    TDP 65 W
    DDR4-2666 4x32GB
    LGA-1151

    That's a good choice for Win10. Launch price $192.00

    The motherboard may be designed with a light-weight three or four phase
    VCore, which doesn't have a lot of capability to run hefty processors.
    You will need to use your jaundiced eye, to work out what upgrades would work. Usually, OEM machines have "very economical" and not-over-engineered parts.

    One of the Dell tricks on older machines was, the higher power processors needed a different "heat sink blob" with more fins, more
    heatpipes, and so on, when a higher power processor was fitted.
    This generally put the jinx on upgrading those machines,
    as you couldn't find the right cooler module.

    The power supply in the machine, could be 230W or 300W. The
    high power variant of the machine may have had a 500W PSU option.
    It's up to you to work out the power requirements, and figure
    out if the power supply has the legs for the bigger processor.

    If you look at the buttons on this page, you can see "a" sequence of
    CPUs. This is not particularly the best way to find the processor.

    https://www.newegg.com/core-i5-8th-gen-intel-core-i5-8500/p/N82E16819117883

    This claims to be a Coffee Lake 8 core, but you would want to look
    that up on the Intel site to verify.

    https://www.newegg.com/core-i7-9th-gen-intel-core-i7-9700k/p/N82E16819117958

    This also claims to be a Coffee Lake 8 core. At 95W, that's 30 watts
    more heat, and 40W more electricity (conversion inefficiency). Just in
    rough round numbers.

    https://www.newegg.com/core-i9-9th-gen-intel-core-i9-9900k/p/N82E16819117957

    If I was going to impress a prospective customer, I would slip a $40
    Lexar NS100 256GB SSD in it. That's just big enough for an OS, and
    is a "teaser drive" for a project like this. whereas putting an expensive
    4TB SSD in the thing, would be practical for someones movie or music
    collection but the purchase price would swamp the whole value of the
    project. If the original drive was dodgy (and was the reason for discard), that's what I would spend on the project, is $40.
    I have around four of those NS100 here.

    These are not much to look at. I use these as scratch drives, not as a daily driver.
    If it falls over as a scratch drive, into the garbage it goes. So far, no trouble.
    For Windows 10, this gives you your boot speed. And makes the i5-8500 look heroic.

    https://www.newegg.com/lexar-256gb-ns100/p/1B4-01BZ-00020

    Paul

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