• Bluetooth pairing names

    From david@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 25 23:43:38 2024
    XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.os.linux

    I have some devices which pair as "E62" while others pair as "WS-1".
    Still more pair as "MK02" while others pair as "Kinivo BTH220".
    Some make sense such as my "OBDII" & "ResMed495698" & "JBL TUNE500BT".

    But who decides what are the allowed Bluetooth pairing names for a new
    device? Is there a central agency which assigns these names (sort of like
    how domain names are assigned)? Is there a lookup table for Bluetooth names (like they have with the first half of MAC addresses)?

    How does this seemingly almost random Bluetooth name assignment happen?

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  • From Dave Royal@21:1/5 to david on Thu Dec 26 07:29:21 2024
    XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.os.linux

    david <this@is.invalid> Wrote in message:

    I have some devices which pair as "E62" while others pair as "WS-1".
    Still more pair as "MK02" while others pair as "Kinivo BTH220".
    Some make sense such as my "OBDII" & "ResMed495698" & "JBL TUNE500BT".

    But who decides what are the allowed Bluetooth pairing names for a new device? Is there a central agency which assigns these names (sort of like
    how domain names are assigned)? Is there a lookup table for Bluetooth names (like they have with the first half of MAC addresses)?

    How does this seemingly almost random Bluetooth name assignment happen?

    Bluetooth devices have a Device Address similar to a MAC address.
    The ranges are assigned to manufacturers by the organisation that
    controls Bluetooth. The names can be anything - though they ought
    to adequate to identify what you're pairing with. You may be able
    to change the name - once paired.
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  • From knuttle@21:1/5 to Dave Royal on Thu Dec 26 08:20:12 2024
    XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.os.linux

    On 12/26/2024 2:29 AM, Dave Royal wrote:
    david <this@is.invalid> Wrote in message:

    I have some devices which pair as "E62" while others pair as "WS-1".
    Still more pair as "MK02" while others pair as "Kinivo BTH220".
    Some make sense such as my "OBDII" & "ResMed495698" & "JBL TUNE500BT".

    But who decides what are the allowed Bluetooth pairing names for a new
    device? Is there a central agency which assigns these names (sort of like
    how domain names are assigned)? Is there a lookup table for Bluetooth names >> (like they have with the first half of MAC addresses)?

    How does this seemingly almost random Bluetooth name assignment happen?

    Bluetooth devices have a Device Address similar to a MAC address.
    The ranges are assigned to manufacturers by the organisation that
    controls Bluetooth. The names can be anything - though they ought
    to adequate to identify what you're pairing with. You may be able
    to change the name - once paired.
    On my Moto G Pure, when I change the name on the device, the name is
    used on the computer to identify the connection

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Dave Royal on Thu Dec 26 21:20:27 2024
    XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.os.linux

    On 2024-12-26 08:29, Dave Royal wrote:
    david <this@is.invalid> Wrote in message:

    I have some devices which pair as "E62" while others pair as "WS-1".
    Still more pair as "MK02" while others pair as "Kinivo BTH220".
    Some make sense such as my "OBDII" & "ResMed495698" & "JBL TUNE500BT".

    But who decides what are the allowed Bluetooth pairing names for a new
    device? Is there a central agency which assigns these names (sort of like
    how domain names are assigned)? Is there a lookup table for Bluetooth names >> (like they have with the first half of MAC addresses)?

    How does this seemingly almost random Bluetooth name assignment happen?

    Bluetooth devices have a Device Address similar to a MAC address.
    The ranges are assigned to manufacturers by the organisation that
    controls Bluetooth. The names can be anything - though they ought
    to adequate to identify what you're pairing with. You may be able
    to change the name - once paired.

    Wait, you say I can change the name of the, for example, headphones I
    connect to my phone? Will that new name hold for the next time I connect
    to them?

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From Arno Welzel@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 26 21:35:31 2024
    XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.os.linux

    Carlos E.R., 2024-12-26 21:20:

    On 2024-12-26 08:29, Dave Royal wrote:
    david <this@is.invalid> Wrote in message:

    I have some devices which pair as "E62" while others pair as "WS-1".
    Still more pair as "MK02" while others pair as "Kinivo BTH220".
    Some make sense such as my "OBDII" & "ResMed495698" & "JBL TUNE500BT".

    But who decides what are the allowed Bluetooth pairing names for a new
    device? Is there a central agency which assigns these names (sort of like >>> how domain names are assigned)? Is there a lookup table for Bluetooth names >>> (like they have with the first half of MAC addresses)?

    How does this seemingly almost random Bluetooth name assignment happen?

    Bluetooth devices have a Device Address similar to a MAC address.
    The ranges are assigned to manufacturers by the organisation that
    controls Bluetooth. The names can be anything - though they ought
    to adequate to identify what you're pairing with. You may be able
    to change the name - once paired.

    Wait, you say I can change the name of the, for example, headphones I
    connect to my phone? Will that new name hold for the next time I connect
    to them?

    Yes, you can change the name. At least Android allows to do this and as
    far I remember, Windows and Linux also allow this. And it is the
    computer or smartphone which will remember that name, since the pairing
    of the device is stored, even if the headphone is not connected.

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    https://arnowelzel.de

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Carlos E.R. on Thu Dec 26 21:31:38 2024
    XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.os.linux

    On 2024-12-26 21:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2024-12-26 08:29, Dave Royal wrote:
    david <this@is.invalid> Wrote in message:

    I have some devices which pair as "E62" while others pair as "WS-1".
    Still more pair as "MK02" while others pair as "Kinivo BTH220".
    Some make sense such as my "OBDII" & "ResMed495698" & "JBL TUNE500BT".

    But who decides what are the allowed Bluetooth pairing names for a new
    device? Is there a central agency which assigns these names (sort of
    like
    how domain names are assigned)? Is there a lookup table for Bluetooth
    names
    (like they have with the first half of MAC addresses)?

    How does this seemingly almost random Bluetooth name assignment happen?

    Bluetooth devices have a Device Address similar to a MAC address.
      The ranges are assigned to manufacturers by the organisation that
      controls Bluetooth. The names can be anything - though they ought
      to adequate to identify what you're pairing with. You may be able
      to change the name - once paired.

    Wait, you say I can change the name of the, for example, headphones I
    connect to my phone? Will that new name hold for the next time I connect
    to them?

    I forgot to ask: And will that changed name be visible on other phones, computers, etc, connecting at different times to the headphone?


    What I mean to know is if the change is written inside the headphones,
    or only in my phone.

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    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Arno Welzel on Thu Dec 26 22:00:37 2024
    XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.os.linux

    On 2024-12-26 21:35, Arno Welzel wrote:
    Carlos E.R., 2024-12-26 21:20:

    On 2024-12-26 08:29, Dave Royal wrote:
    david <this@is.invalid> Wrote in message:

    I have some devices which pair as "E62" while others pair as "WS-1".
    Still more pair as "MK02" while others pair as "Kinivo BTH220".
    Some make sense such as my "OBDII" & "ResMed495698" & "JBL TUNE500BT". >>>>
    But who decides what are the allowed Bluetooth pairing names for a new >>>> device? Is there a central agency which assigns these names (sort of like >>>> how domain names are assigned)? Is there a lookup table for Bluetooth names
    (like they have with the first half of MAC addresses)?

    How does this seemingly almost random Bluetooth name assignment happen? >>>
    Bluetooth devices have a Device Address similar to a MAC address.
    The ranges are assigned to manufacturers by the organisation that
    controls Bluetooth. The names can be anything - though they ought
    to adequate to identify what you're pairing with. You may be able
    to change the name - once paired.

    Wait, you say I can change the name of the, for example, headphones I
    connect to my phone? Will that new name hold for the next time I connect
    to them?

    Yes, you can change the name. At least Android allows to do this and as
    far I remember, Windows and Linux also allow this. And it is the
    computer or smartphone which will remember that name, since the pairing
    of the device is stored, even if the headphone is not connected.


    Ah. Thanks.

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    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From Arno Welzel@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 27 00:53:55 2024
    XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.os.linux

    Carlos E.R., 2024-12-26 21:31:

    On 2024-12-26 21:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    [...]
    Wait, you say I can change the name of the, for example, headphones I
    connect to my phone? Will that new name hold for the next time I connect
    to them?

    I forgot to ask: And will that changed name be visible on other phones, computers, etc, connecting at different times to the headphone?

    No. The name is only the local label for the headset in your phone.

    What I mean to know is if the change is written inside the headphones,
    or only in my phone.

    Only in your phone.


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    Arno Welzel
    https://arnowelzel.de

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  • From david@21:1/5 to Arno Welzel on Thu Dec 26 19:42:49 2024
    XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.os.linux

    Using <news:lt68kiF1ge3U1@mid.individual.net>, Arno Welzel wrote:

    Carlos E.R., 2024-12-26 21:31:

    On 2024-12-26 21:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    [...]
    Wait, you say I can change the name of the, for example, headphones I
    connect to my phone? Will that new name hold for the next time I connect >>> to them?

    I forgot to ask: And will that changed name be visible on other phones,
    computers, etc, connecting at different times to the headphone?

    No. The name is only the local label for the headset in your phone.

    What I mean to know is if the change is written inside the headphones,
    or only in my phone.

    Only in your phone.

    Is there a Bluetooth unique name lookup table somewhere on the Internet?

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  • From Arno Welzel@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 27 13:44:28 2024
    XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.os.linux

    david, 2024-12-27 03:42:

    Using <news:lt68kiF1ge3U1@mid.individual.net>, Arno Welzel wrote:

    Carlos E.R., 2024-12-26 21:31:

    On 2024-12-26 21:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    [...]
    Wait, you say I can change the name of the, for example, headphones I
    connect to my phone? Will that new name hold for the next time I connect >>>> to them?

    I forgot to ask: And will that changed name be visible on other phones,
    computers, etc, connecting at different times to the headphone?

    No. The name is only the local label for the headset in your phone.

    What I mean to know is if the change is written inside the headphones,
    or only in my phone.

    Only in your phone.

    Is there a Bluetooth unique name lookup table somewhere on the Internet?

    I'm not aware of any. But this is not needed since the device is not
    identified by its name but by the device ID. The name is just text
    offered by the device. A host (like a smartphone) will display the name
    as it is offered, but you can change that, if you need to. The device ID
    will stay the same, even with a different name in the host.


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    Arno Welzel
    https://arnowelzel.de

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  • From Jasen Betts@21:1/5 to david on Sun Dec 29 02:18:16 2024
    XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.os.linux

    On 2024-12-26, david <this@is.invalid> wrote:
    I have some devices which pair as "E62" while others pair as "WS-1".
    Still more pair as "MK02" while others pair as "Kinivo BTH220".
    Some make sense such as my "OBDII" & "ResMed495698" & "JBL TUNE500BT".

    But who decides what are the allowed Bluetooth pairing names for a new device? Is there a central agency which assigns these names (sort of like
    how domain names are assigned)? Is there a lookup table for Bluetooth names (like they have with the first half of MAC addresses)?

    How does this seemingly almost random Bluetooth name assignment happen?

    As I understand it the name is sent over the air, along with the MAC
    address and other actually unique identifiers.

    --
    Jasen.
    🇺🇦 Слава Україні

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