• "News and interests" is back on my system.

    From John C.@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 31 05:52:36 2024
    "News and interests" in Windows 10 runs the Search application thusly:

    C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy

    I've disabled the button from running on my Taskbar and since I'm
    running Windows 10 Pro, I also disabled it again thusly:

    1. Open the Group Policy Editor
    2. Navigate to: Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates >
    Windows Components > News and interests
    3. Double-click on "Enable news and interests on the taskbar" and set it
    to "Disabled".
    4. Click Apply and OK.

    Nonetheless, whenever I restart my computer and then check in the Task
    Manager, there is News and Interests listed in the Processes tab. It's
    listed as "Disabled", but still, why is it even there? If I expand the
    listing, "News and interests" listing, it's shown to be running the
    "Search application" (also shown as being disabled). If I leave the
    "Search application" selected, I can easily click on the "End task"
    button and kill both it and "News and interests".

    Still, *why should I even need to do this?* I LOATH this supposed
    "feature" and want it completely removed from my computer. Why does it
    start every time I reboot my system? It's not listed in any Start up
    list I can find.

    Does anybody know what keeps starting it up when I reboot my computer?
    It would be great if I could completely remove this unnecessary thing
    from my system.

    This is as bad as when Cortana was installed and also running the Search application in the background, like it or not.

    Another such "feature" I would like to be able to assassinate is
    Microsoft Pay.

    --
    John C.

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to John C. on Tue Dec 31 14:26:26 2024
    John C. wrote:
    "News and interests" in Windows 10 runs the Search application thusly:

    C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy

    I've disabled the button from running on my Taskbar and since I'm
    running Windows 10 Pro, I also disabled it again thusly:

    1. Open the Group Policy Editor
    2. Navigate to: Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates >
    Windows Components > News and interests
    3. Double-click on "Enable news and interests on the taskbar" and set it
    to "Disabled".
    4. Click Apply and OK.

    Nonetheless, whenever I restart my computer and then check in the Task Manager, there is News and Interests listed in the Processes tab. It's
    listed as "Disabled", but still, why is it even there? If I expand the listing, "News and interests" listing, it's shown to be running the
    "Search application" (also shown as being disabled). If I leave the
    "Search application" selected, I can easily click on the "End task"
    button and kill both it and "News and interests".

    Still, *why should I even need to do this?* I LOATH this supposed
    "feature" and want it completely removed from my computer. Why does it
    start every time I reboot my system? It's not listed in any Start up
    list I can find.

    Does anybody know what keeps starting it up when I reboot my computer?
    It would be great if I could completely remove this unnecessary thing
    from my system.

    This is as bad as when Cortana was installed and also running the Search application in the background, like it or not.

    Another such "feature" I would like to be able to assassinate is
    Microsoft Pay.


    You appear to have fallen into the trap of what I call "Windows' button
    maze". The OS is maintained by so many different programmers, who seldom co-operate and frequently contradict each other, until eventually
    someone is called in to try and centralise it all, -- that chaos ensues
    (rather as in this sentence I'm writing).

    My Win10 works well with News & Interests switched off by click Taskbar,
    News and interests, select "Turn off". However there is another possible culprit in Taskbar settings/ Taskbar/ page down to News and interests
    and switch off the three settings there.

    Ed

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  • From Newyana2@21:1/5 to John C. on Tue Dec 31 10:24:28 2024
    On 12/31/2024 8:52 AM, John C. wrote:
    "News and interests" in Windows 10 runs the Search application thusly:

    C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy

    I've disabled the button from running on my Taskbar and since I'm
    running Windows 10 Pro, I also disabled it again thusly:

    1. Open the Group Policy Editor
    2. Navigate to: Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates >
    Windows Components > News and interests
    3. Double-click on "Enable news and interests on the taskbar" and set it
    to "Disabled".
    4. Click Apply and OK.

    Nonetheless, whenever I restart my computer and then check in the Task Manager, there is News and Interests listed in the Processes tab. It's
    listed as "Disabled", but still, why is it even there? If I expand the listing, "News and interests" listing, it's shown to be running the
    "Search application" (also shown as being disabled). If I leave the
    "Search application" selected, I can easily click on the "End task"
    button and kill both it and "News and interests".

    Still, *why should I even need to do this?* I LOATH this supposed
    "feature" and want it completely removed from my computer. Why does it
    start every time I reboot my system? It's not listed in any Start up
    list I can find.

    Does anybody know what keeps starting it up when I reboot my computer?
    It would be great if I could completely remove this unnecessary thing
    from my system.

    This is as bad as when Cortana was installed and also running the Search application in the background, like it or not.

    Another such "feature" I would like to be able to assassinate is
    Microsoft Pay.


    You can uninstall all that crap, but it takes some effort. MS have
    gone out of their way to obfuscate the "app" system. Even the folder
    names are pure nonsense. This link goes to a typical explanation.
    You can find others:

    https://www.askvg.com/guide-how-to-remove-all-built-in-apps-in-windows-10/

    Another example:

    https://gist.github.com/tkrotoff/830231489af5c5818b15

    Basically the idea is that you have to run Poweshell commands. I think there may be a PS command to delete the whole mess, but I'm not sure. I did them
    one at a time, then went into C:\Program Files\WindowsApps and deleted
    the leftovers. I now mostly only have runtimes for .Net and VC++ in there.

    Search is especially pesky because another service will restart it even if
    you disable it, but I found a clever script. You put this in a .bat file:

    taskkill /f /im SearchApp.exe
    timeout /T 1
    move %windir%\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy %windir%\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy.old

    It kills the search app, then renames the folder. A moment later,
    Background Tasks Infrastructure tries to restart it, but can no longer
    find it. As I recall that saved something like 170MB of nonsense waste.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to John C. on Wed Jan 1 13:27:22 2025
    On Tue, 12/31/2024 8:52 AM, John C. wrote:
    "News and interests" in Windows 10 runs the Search application thusly:

    C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy

    I've disabled the button from running on my Taskbar and since I'm
    running Windows 10 Pro, I also disabled it again thusly:

    1. Open the Group Policy Editor
    2. Navigate to: Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates >
    Windows Components > News and interests
    3. Double-click on "Enable news and interests on the taskbar" and set it
    to "Disabled".
    4. Click Apply and OK.

    Nonetheless, whenever I restart my computer and then check in the Task Manager, there is News and Interests listed in the Processes tab. It's
    listed as "Disabled", but still, why is it even there? If I expand the listing, "News and interests" listing, it's shown to be running the
    "Search application" (also shown as being disabled). If I leave the
    "Search application" selected, I can easily click on the "End task"
    button and kill both it and "News and interests".

    Still, *why should I even need to do this?* I LOATH this supposed
    "feature" and want it completely removed from my computer. Why does it
    start every time I reboot my system? It's not listed in any Start up
    list I can find.

    Does anybody know what keeps starting it up when I reboot my computer?
    It would be great if I could completely remove this unnecessary thing
    from my system.

    This is as bad as when Cortana was installed and also running the Search application in the background, like it or not.

    Another such "feature" I would like to be able to assassinate is
    Microsoft Pay.

    Presented just for the comedy of it.

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/get-rid-of-news-and-interests/1cd2ad88-5830-4f1f-8df3-4596a7c75def

    "I wrote a little program that every 2 minutes or so scans <=== frequency should be much higher
    all running processes and kills any SearchApp it finds, and thus <=== should be checking ten times a second :-)
    killing News and Interests. But Windows loads it back up every time.

    - Renamed SearchApp.exe to SearchApp Backup.exe somewhere in the
    \Windows\SystemApp folder. Disadvantage here is that the Taskbar
    starts behaving a bit weird and one loses the taskbar search. But
    it does permanently kills News and Interests.
    "

    And, sniff, the private Location service that was running,
    gets turned off too. Now the user will only get the air
    temperature in Redmond. And the advertisers will think you're
    in Redmond too.

    A search indicates there is "Fake GPS Emulator", but I'll leave that
    for Arlen to test.

    Paul

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  • From John C.@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Thu Jan 2 06:00:33 2025
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    John C. wrote:
    "News and interests" in Windows 10 runs the Search application thusly:

    C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy

    I've disabled the button from running on my Taskbar and since I'm
    running Windows 10 Pro, I also disabled it again thusly:

    1. Open the Group Policy Editor
    2. Navigate to: Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates >
    Windows Components > News and interests
    3. Double-click on "Enable news and interests on the taskbar" and set it
    to "Disabled".
    4. Click Apply and OK.

    Nonetheless, whenever I restart my computer and then check in the Task
    Manager, there is News and Interests listed in the Processes tab. It's
    listed as "Disabled", but still, why is it even there? If I expand the
    listing, "News and interests" listing, it's shown to be running the
    "Search application" (also shown as being disabled). If I leave the
    "Search application" selected, I can easily click on the "End task"
    button and kill both it and "News and interests".

    Still, *why should I even need to do this?* I LOATH this supposed
    "feature" and want it completely removed from my computer. Why does it
    start every time I reboot my system? It's not listed in any Start up
    list I can find.

    Does anybody know what keeps starting it up when I reboot my computer?
    It would be great if I could completely remove this unnecessary thing
    from my system.

    This is as bad as when Cortana was installed and also running the Search
    application in the background, like it or not.

    Another such "feature" I would like to be able to assassinate is
    Microsoft Pay.

    Which I have now removed from my system by using OO Appbuster:

    https://www.oo-software.com/en/ooappbuster

    However, this application does not list "News and interests" as an
    installed "app" (God, I hate that term.) Might be listed as something
    else there, but I haven't been able to figure out what that might be.

    I do know though, that "News and interests" runs from the following
    location:

    C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy

    You appear to have fallen into the trap of what I call "Windows' button maze". The OS is maintained by so many different programmers, who seldom co-operate and frequently contradict each other, until eventually
    someone is called in to try and centralise it all, -- that chaos ensues (rather as in this sentence I'm writing).

    My Win10 works well with News & Interests switched off by click Taskbar,
    News and interests, select "Turn off". However there is another possible culprit in Taskbar settings/ Taskbar/ page down to News and interests
    and switch off the three settings there.

    Those three settings are all in the off position and grayed out.
    Presumably because I set the GPE/Local Computer Policy/Computer Configuration/Administrative Templates/Windows Components/News and interests/Enable news and interests on the taskbar set to "Disabled".

    And yet, the miserable S.O.B. still shows up in the Task Manager as
    running in the background. I can kill the process, but after a while
    (probably deliberately designed to fool me into thinking it won't) it
    restarts.

    I'm still unable to find the setting and disable it to allow me to
    prevent this nonsense. All I know is that this is the location of the
    Search process that N&I runs:

    C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy

    --
    John C.

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  • From John C.@21:1/5 to John C. on Thu Jan 2 06:31:24 2025
    John C. wrote:
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    John C. wrote:
    "News and interests" in Windows 10 runs the Search application thusly:

    C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy

    I've disabled the button from running on my Taskbar and since I'm
    running Windows 10 Pro, I also disabled it again thusly:

    1. Open the Group Policy Editor
    2. Navigate to: Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates >
    Windows Components > News and interests
    3. Double-click on "Enable news and interests on the taskbar" and set it >>> to "Disabled".
    4. Click Apply and OK.

    Nonetheless, whenever I restart my computer and then check in the Task
    Manager, there is News and Interests listed in the Processes tab. It's
    listed as "Disabled", but still, why is it even there? If I expand the
    listing, "News and interests" listing, it's shown to be running the
    "Search application" (also shown as being disabled). If I leave the
    "Search application" selected, I can easily click on the "End task"
    button and kill both it and "News and interests".

    Still, *why should I even need to do this?* I LOATH this supposed
    "feature" and want it completely removed from my computer. Why does it
    start every time I reboot my system? It's not listed in any Start up
    list I can find.

    Does anybody know what keeps starting it up when I reboot my computer?
    It would be great if I could completely remove this unnecessary thing
    from my system.

    This is as bad as when Cortana was installed and also running the Search >>> application in the background, like it or not.

    Another such "feature" I would like to be able to assassinate is
    Microsoft Pay.

    Which I have now removed from my system by using OO Appbuster:

    https://www.oo-software.com/en/ooappbuster

    However, this application does not list "News and interests" as an
    installed "app" (God, I hate that term.) Might be listed as something
    else there, but I haven't been able to figure out what that might be.

    I do know though, that "News and interests" runs from the following
    location:

    C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy

    You appear to have fallen into the trap of what I call "Windows' button
    maze". The OS is maintained by so many different programmers, who seldom
    co-operate and frequently contradict each other, until eventually
    someone is called in to try and centralise it all, -- that chaos ensues
    (rather as in this sentence I'm writing).

    My Win10 works well with News & Interests switched off by click Taskbar,
    News and interests, select "Turn off". However there is another possible
    culprit in Taskbar settings/ Taskbar/ page down to News and interests
    and switch off the three settings there.

    Those three settings are all in the off position and grayed out.
    Presumably because I set the GPE/Local Computer Policy/Computer Configuration/Administrative Templates/Windows Components/News and interests/Enable news and interests on the taskbar set to "Disabled".

    And yet, the miserable S.O.B. still shows up in the Task Manager as
    running in the background. I can kill the process, but after a while (probably deliberately designed to fool me into thinking it won't) it restarts.

    I'm still unable to find the setting and disable it to allow me to
    prevent this nonsense. All I know is that this is the location of the
    Search process that N&I runs:

    C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy

    Eh... make that:

    C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy\SearchApp.exe

    And as a side note, I see that containing folder also has inside it:

    Cortana.Internal.Search.winmd

    and:

    Cortana.Search.winmd

    I uninstalled Cortana. What the HELL are these files doing there? Are
    they simply orphan files or are they still active and doing something?

    Copilot told me that "The file Cortana.Search.winmd is part of the
    Windows Search application, which is why it's still present in the
    SystemApps folder. This file is related to the Windows Search
    functionality and not specifically to Cortana."

    Copilot says pretty much the same thing about the
    Cortana.Internal.Search.winmd file.

    --
    John C.

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to John C. on Thu Jan 2 15:19:44 2025
    John C. wrote:
    John C. wrote:
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    John C. wrote:
    "News and interests" in Windows 10 runs the Search application thusly: >>>>
    C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy

    I've disabled the button from running on my Taskbar and since I'm
    running Windows 10 Pro, I also disabled it again thusly:

    1. Open the Group Policy Editor
    2. Navigate to: Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates >
    Windows Components > News and interests
    3. Double-click on "Enable news and interests on the taskbar" and set it >>>> to "Disabled".
    4. Click Apply and OK.

    Nonetheless, whenever I restart my computer and then check in the Task >>>> Manager, there is News and Interests listed in the Processes tab. It's >>>> listed as "Disabled", but still, why is it even there? If I expand the >>>> listing, "News and interests" listing, it's shown to be running the
    "Search application" (also shown as being disabled). If I leave the
    "Search application" selected, I can easily click on the "End task"
    button and kill both it and "News and interests".

    Still, *why should I even need to do this?* I LOATH this supposed
    "feature" and want it completely removed from my computer. Why does it >>>> start every time I reboot my system? It's not listed in any Start up
    list I can find.

    Does anybody know what keeps starting it up when I reboot my computer? >>>> It would be great if I could completely remove this unnecessary thing
    from my system.

    This is as bad as when Cortana was installed and also running the Search >>>> application in the background, like it or not.

    Another such "feature" I would like to be able to assassinate is
    Microsoft Pay.

    Which I have now removed from my system by using OO Appbuster:

    https://www.oo-software.com/en/ooappbuster

    However, this application does not list "News and interests" as an
    installed "app" (God, I hate that term.) Might be listed as something
    else there, but I haven't been able to figure out what that might be.

    I do know though, that "News and interests" runs from the following
    location:

    C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy

    You appear to have fallen into the trap of what I call "Windows' button
    maze". The OS is maintained by so many different programmers, who seldom >>> co-operate and frequently contradict each other, until eventually
    someone is called in to try and centralise it all, -- that chaos ensues
    (rather as in this sentence I'm writing).

    My Win10 works well with News & Interests switched off by click Taskbar, >>> News and interests, select "Turn off". However there is another possible >>> culprit in Taskbar settings/ Taskbar/ page down to News and interests
    and switch off the three settings there.

    Those three settings are all in the off position and grayed out.
    Presumably because I set the GPE/Local Computer Policy/Computer
    Configuration/Administrative Templates/Windows Components/News and
    interests/Enable news and interests on the taskbar set to "Disabled".

    And yet, the miserable S.O.B. still shows up in the Task Manager as
    running in the background. I can kill the process, but after a while
    (probably deliberately designed to fool me into thinking it won't) it
    restarts.

    I'm still unable to find the setting and disable it to allow me to
    prevent this nonsense. All I know is that this is the location of the
    Search process that N&I runs:

    C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy

    Eh... make that:

    C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy\SearchApp.exe

    And as a side note, I see that containing folder also has inside it:

    Cortana.Internal.Search.winmd

    and:

    Cortana.Search.winmd

    I uninstalled Cortana. What the HELL are these files doing there? Are
    they simply orphan files or are they still active and doing something?

    Copilot told me that "The file Cortana.Search.winmd is part of the
    Windows Search application, which is why it's still present in the
    SystemApps folder. This file is related to the Windows Search
    functionality and not specifically to Cortana."

    Copilot says pretty much the same thing about the Cortana.Internal.Search.winmd file.


    You're doing well, John. I have to admire your efforts. But a couple of reservations have been pointed out to me by a good friend at the bar of
    a good pub.
    Firstly, when Win10 has a major update, all your efforts could well just
    be wiped out.
    Secondly, you might cripple the OS with your efforts, and not find out
    until later when damage has been done.
    Thirdly, there's a kind of obsessive compulsion in it all. Sigmund Freud
    wrote about "anal retentive personalities".
    Fourthly, it consumes so much time.

    My mate has always been a good mate, and he's educated and intelligent.
    I've taken advice from him before. So I'm leaving my system alone; the
    SSD is large enough, the CPU and RAM are sufficient, the gains from decrappifying it would be very small.

    Good luck if you carry on.

    Ed

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  • From wasbit@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Fri Jan 3 09:45:58 2025
    On 02/01/2025 15:19, Ed Cryer wrote:
    John C. wrote:
    John C. wrote:
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    John C. wrote:
    "News and interests" in Windows 10 runs the Search application thusly: >>>>>
    C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy

    I've disabled the button from running on my Taskbar and since I'm
    running Windows 10 Pro, I also disabled it again thusly:

    1. Open the Group Policy Editor
    2. Navigate to: Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates >
    Windows Components > News and interests
    3. Double-click on "Enable news and interests on the taskbar" and
    set it
    to "Disabled".
    4. Click Apply and OK.

    Nonetheless, whenever I restart my computer and then check in the Task >>>>> Manager, there is News and Interests listed in the Processes tab. It's >>>>> listed as "Disabled", but still, why is it even there? If I expand the >>>>> listing, "News and interests" listing, it's shown to be running the
    "Search application" (also shown as being disabled). If I leave the
    "Search application" selected, I can easily click on the "End task"
    button and kill both it and "News and interests".

    Still, *why should I even need to do this?* I LOATH this supposed
    "feature" and want it completely removed from my computer. Why does it >>>>> start every time I reboot my system? It's not listed in any Start up >>>>> list I can find.

    Does anybody know what keeps starting it up when I reboot my computer? >>>>> It would be great if I could completely remove this unnecessary thing >>>>> from my system.

    This is as bad as when Cortana was installed and also running the
    Search
    application in the background, like it or not.

    Another such "feature" I would like to be able to assassinate is
    Microsoft Pay.

    Which I have now removed from my system by using OO Appbuster:

    https://www.oo-software.com/en/ooappbuster

    However, this application does not list "News and interests" as an
    installed "app" (God, I hate that term.) Might be listed as something
    else there, but I haven't been able to figure out what that might be.

    I do know though, that "News and interests" runs from the following
    location:

    C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy

    You appear to have fallen into the trap of what I call "Windows' button >>>> maze". The OS is maintained by so many different programmers, who
    seldom
    co-operate and frequently contradict each other, until eventually
    someone is called in to try and centralise it all, -- that chaos ensues >>>> (rather as in this sentence I'm writing).

    My Win10 works well with News & Interests switched off by click
    Taskbar,
    News and interests, select "Turn off". However there is another
    possible
    culprit in Taskbar settings/ Taskbar/ page down to News and interests
    and switch off the three settings there.

    Those three settings are all in the off position and grayed out.
    Presumably because I set the GPE/Local Computer Policy/Computer
    Configuration/Administrative Templates/Windows Components/News and
    interests/Enable news and interests on the taskbar set to "Disabled".

    And yet, the miserable S.O.B. still shows up in the Task Manager as
    running in the background. I can kill the process, but after a while
    (probably deliberately designed to fool me into thinking it won't) it
    restarts.

    I'm still unable to find the setting and disable it to allow me to
    prevent this nonsense. All I know is that this is the location of the
    Search process that N&I runs:

    C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy

    Eh... make that:

    C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy\SearchApp.exe >>

    And as a side note, I see that containing folder also has inside it:

    Cortana.Internal.Search.winmd

    and:

    Cortana.Search.winmd

    I uninstalled Cortana. What the HELL are these files doing there? Are
    they simply orphan files or are they still active and doing something?

    Copilot told me that "The file Cortana.Search.winmd is part of the
    Windows Search application, which is why it's still present in the
    SystemApps folder.  This file is related to the Windows Search
    functionality and not specifically to Cortana."

    Copilot says pretty much the same thing about the
    Cortana.Internal.Search.winmd file.


    You're doing well, John. I have to admire your efforts. But a couple of reservations have been pointed out to me by a good friend at the bar of
    a good pub.
    Firstly, when Win10 has a major update, all your efforts could well just
    be wiped out.
    Secondly, you might cripple the OS with your efforts, and not find out
    until later when damage has been done.
    Thirdly, there's a kind of obsessive compulsion in it all. Sigmund Freud wrote about "anal retentive personalities".
    Fourthly, it consumes so much time.

    My mate has always been a good mate, and he's educated and intelligent.
    I've taken advice from him before. So I'm leaving my system alone; the
    SSD is large enough, the CPU and RAM are sufficient, the gains from decrappifying it would be very small.


    Yes, but they are stealing his bandwidth.



    --
    Regards
    wasbit

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  • From John C.@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Fri Jan 3 06:00:35 2025
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    John C. wrote:
    John C. wrote:
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    John C. wrote:

    "News and interests" in Windows 10 runs the Search application thusly: >>>>>
    C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy

    I've disabled the button from running on my Taskbar and since I'm
    running Windows 10 Pro, I also disabled it again thusly:

    1. Open the Group Policy Editor
    2. Navigate to: Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates >
    Windows Components > News and interests
    3. Double-click on "Enable news and interests on the taskbar" and
    set it
    to "Disabled".
    4. Click Apply and OK.

    Nonetheless, whenever I restart my computer and then check in the Task >>>>> Manager, there is News and Interests listed in the Processes tab. It's >>>>> listed as "Disabled", but still, why is it even there? If I expand the >>>>> listing, "News and interests" listing, it's shown to be running the
    "Search application" (also shown as being disabled). If I leave the
    "Search application" selected, I can easily click on the "End task"
    button and kill both it and "News and interests".

    Still, *why should I even need to do this?* I LOATH this supposed
    "feature" and want it completely removed from my computer. Why does it >>>>> start every time I reboot my system? It's not listed in any Start up >>>>> list I can find.

    Does anybody know what keeps starting it up when I reboot my computer? >>>>> It would be great if I could completely remove this unnecessary thing >>>>> from my system.

    This is as bad as when Cortana was installed and also running the
    Search
    application in the background, like it or not.

    Another such "feature" I would like to be able to assassinate is
    Microsoft Pay.

    Which I have now removed from my system by using OO Appbuster:

    https://www.oo-software.com/en/ooappbuster

    However, this application does not list "News and interests" as an
    installed "app" (God, I hate that term.) Might be listed as something
    else there, but I haven't been able to figure out what that might be.

    I do know though, that "News and interests" runs from the following
    location:

    C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy

    You appear to have fallen into the trap of what I call "Windows' button >>>> maze". The OS is maintained by so many different programmers, who
    seldom
    co-operate and frequently contradict each other, until eventually
    someone is called in to try and centralise it all, -- that chaos ensues >>>> (rather as in this sentence I'm writing).

    My Win10 works well with News & Interests switched off by click
    Taskbar,
    News and interests, select "Turn off". However there is another
    possible
    culprit in Taskbar settings/ Taskbar/ page down to News and interests
    and switch off the three settings there.

    Those three settings are all in the off position and grayed out.
    Presumably because I set the GPE/Local Computer Policy/Computer
    Configuration/Administrative Templates/Windows Components/News and
    interests/Enable news and interests on the taskbar set to "Disabled".

    And yet, the miserable S.O.B. still shows up in the Task Manager as
    running in the background. I can kill the process, but after a while
    (probably deliberately designed to fool me into thinking it won't) it
    restarts.

    I'm still unable to find the setting and disable it to allow me to
    prevent this nonsense. All I know is that this is the location of the
    Search process that N&I runs:

    C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy

    Eh... make that:

    C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy\SearchApp.exe >>
    And as a side note, I see that containing folder also has inside it:

    Cortana.Internal.Search.winmd

    and:

    Cortana.Search.winmd

    I uninstalled Cortana. What the HELL are these files doing there? Are
    they simply orphan files or are they still active and doing something?

    Copilot told me that "The file Cortana.Search.winmd is part of the
    Windows Search application, which is why it's still present in the
    SystemApps folder.  This file is related to the Windows Search
    functionality and not specifically to Cortana."

    Copilot says pretty much the same thing about the
    Cortana.Internal.Search.winmd file.

    You're doing well, John. I have to admire your efforts. But a couple of reservations have been pointed out to me by a good friend at the bar of
    a good pub.
    Firstly, when Win10 has a major update, all your efforts could well just
    be wiped out.

    I'm fully aware of this and have taken it into consideration. As with everything I do, there are other reasons in the background.

    Secondly, you might cripple the OS with your efforts, and not find out
    until later when damage has been done.

    Since I can at least temporarily end the task in the Task Manager, I
    don't believe that to be very likely.

    Thirdly, there's a kind of obsessive compulsion in it all. Sigmund Freud wrote about "anal retentive personalities"
    Ahhh.. the ultimate tactic of possibly a type B personality. Insulting accusations.

    And Freud was a fool:

    https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/freud-was-a-fraud-a-triumph-of-pseudoscience/

    Fourthly, it consumes so much time.

    Yes, it does. However, the ways I spend my time and my reasons for doing
    so are nobody's business but my own.

    My mate has always been a good mate, and he's educated and intelligent.
    I've taken advice from him before. So I'm leaving my system alone; the
    SSD is large enough, the CPU and RAM are sufficient, the gains from decrappifying it would be very small.

    Good luck if you carry on.

    Thank you. I fully intend to do so. As I've been told by others, my "persistence is legendary."

    And unfortunately, because our conversation here has become
    unproductive, I will be discontinuing my investment in time by engaging
    in it.

    Over and out.

    --
    Regards,
    John C.

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