Was on a long flight on an Airbus 320 series jet from Spirit Airlines whichNot all usb ports supply power when in suspend or shutdown.
I had never flown on before and I found there are no electrical chargers.
No USB outlets. No electrical outlets. No reclining seats. No seatback entertainment. No seat
pouches. Nothing.
So I used my phone until it was dead, and then a tablet until it was too.
Halfway through the flight realized I had my laptop so I plugged a USB-A cable into the shut-down folded-closed tiny HP Stream 11 laptop.
But it didn't charge anything via the (shut down) laptop USB-A port.
If I opened the laptop (still shut down) it still didn't charge out the
USB-A port to a phone - but if I booted to Windows 10, then it did charge.
Why?
Is this normal Windows 10 behavior?
Or is this normal HP laptop behavior?
Why doesn't an HP Win10 laptop USB charge when it's folded & turned off?
Was on a long flight on an Airbus 320 series jet from Spirit Airlines which
I had never flown on before and I found there are no electrical chargers.
No USB outlets. No electrical outlets. No reclining seats. No seatback entertainment. No seat pouches. Nothing.
So I used my phone until it was dead, and then a tablet until it was too.
Halfway through the flight realized I had my laptop so I plugged a USB-A cable into the shut-down folded-closed tiny HP Stream 11 laptop.
But it didn't charge anything via the (shut down) laptop USB-A port.
If I opened the laptop (still shut down) it still didn't charge out the
USB-A port to a phone - but if I booted to Windows 10, then it did charge.
Why?
Is this normal Windows 10 behavior?
Or is this normal HP laptop behavior?
Why doesn't an HP Win10 laptop USB charge when it's folded & turned off?
Why doesn't an HP Win10 laptop USB charge when it's folded & turned off?
It is configurable
Was on a long flight on an Airbus 320 series jet from Spirit Airlines which
I had never flown on before and I found there are no electrical chargers.
No USB outlets. No electrical outlets. No reclining seats. No seatback entertainment. No seat pouches. Nothing.
So I used my phone until it was dead, and then a tablet until it was too.
Halfway through the flight realized I had my laptop so I plugged a USB-A cable into the shut-down folded-closed tiny HP Stream 11 laptop.
But it didn't charge anything via the (shut down) laptop USB-A port.
If I opened the laptop (still shut down) it still didn't charge out the
USB-A port to a phone - but if I booted to Windows 10, then it did charge.
Why?
Is this normal Windows 10 behavior?
Or is this normal HP laptop behavior?
Why doesn't an HP Win10 laptop USB charge when it's folded & turned off?
On 09/01/2025 21:18, Marion wrote:
Was on a long flight on an Airbus 320 series jet from Spirit Airlines
which
I had never flown on before and I found there are no electrical chargers.
No USB outlets. No electrical outlets. No reclining seats. No seatback
entertainment. No seat pouches. Nothing.
So I used my phone until it was dead, and then a tablet until it was too.
Halfway through the flight realized I had my laptop so I plugged a USB-A
cable into the shut-down folded-closed tiny HP Stream 11 laptop.
But it didn't charge anything via the (shut down) laptop USB-A port.
If I opened the laptop (still shut down) it still didn't charge out the
USB-A port to a phone - but if I booted to Windows 10, then it did
charge.
Why?
Is this normal Windows 10 behavior?
Or is this normal HP laptop behavior?
Why doesn't an HP Win10 laptop USB charge when it's folded & turned off?
Short answer is *because* it is turned *OFF*.
If a laptop didn't completely shut down all of its electronics apart
from the on/off button then the battery life would be terrible.
It has to be on for the USB ports to provide power out and then it may
well negotiate a higher charge rate with your phone if it is USB C.
On 10/01/2025 09:44, Martin Brown wrote:[...]
On 09/01/2025 21:18, Marion wrote:
Why doesn't an HP Win10 laptop USB charge when it's folded & turned off?
Short answer is *because* it is turned *OFF*.
If a laptop didn't completely shut down all of its electronics apart
from the on/off button then the battery life would be terrible.
It has to be on for the USB ports to provide power out and then it may
well negotiate a higher charge rate with your phone if it is USB C.
Wrong.
My Acer Swift Edge has four USB ports of which one Type 3.2 provides power-off charging. It depends entirely on the laptop and the port, the version of Windows is irrelevant.
On 10/01/2025 09:44, Martin Brown wrote:
On 09/01/2025 21:18, Marion wrote:Wrong.
Was on a long flight on an Airbus 320 series jet from Spirit Airlines
which
I had never flown on before and I found there are no electrical
chargers.
No USB outlets. No electrical outlets. No reclining seats. No
seatback entertainment. No seat pouches. Nothing.
So I used my phone until it was dead, and then a tablet until it was
too.
Halfway through the flight realized I had my laptop so I plugged a USB-A >>> cable into the shut-down folded-closed tiny HP Stream 11 laptop.
But it didn't charge anything via the (shut down) laptop USB-A port.
If I opened the laptop (still shut down) it still didn't charge out the
USB-A port to a phone - but if I booted to Windows 10, then it did
charge.
Why?
Is this normal Windows 10 behavior?
Or is this normal HP laptop behavior?
Why doesn't an HP Win10 laptop USB charge when it's folded & turned off?
Short answer is *because* it is turned *OFF*.
If a laptop didn't completely shut down all of its electronics apart
from the on/off button then the battery life would be terrible.
It has to be on for the USB ports to provide power out and then it may
well negotiate a higher charge rate with your phone if it is USB C.
My Acer Swift Edge has four USB ports of which one Type 3.2 provides power-off charging. It depends entirely on the laptop and the port, the version of Windows is irrelevant.
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Why doesn't an HP Win10 laptop USB charge when it's folded & turned off?
It is configurable
You're dead wrong. It's not configurable. What made you think it was?
Was on a long flight on an Airbus 320 series jet from Spirit Airlines which
I had never flown on before and I found there are no electrical chargers.
No USB outlets. No electrical outlets. No reclining seats. No seatback entertainment. No seat pouches. Nothing.
So I used my phone until it was dead, and then a tablet until it was too.
Halfway through the flight realized I had my laptop so I plugged a USB-A cable into the shut-down folded-closed tiny HP Stream 11 laptop.
But it didn't charge anything via the (shut down) laptop USB-A port.
If I opened the laptop (still shut down) it still didn't charge out the
USB-A port to a phone - but if I booted to Windows 10, then it did charge.
Why?
Is this normal Windows 10 behavior?
Or is this normal HP laptop behavior?
Why doesn't an HP Win10 laptop USB charge when it's folded & turned off?
On 10/01/2025 09:44, Martin Brown wrote:
On 09/01/2025 21:18, Marion wrote:Wrong.
Was on a long flight on an Airbus 320 series jet from Spirit Airlines
which
I had never flown on before and I found there are no electrical
chargers.
No USB outlets. No electrical outlets. No reclining seats. No
seatback entertainment. No seat pouches. Nothing.
So I used my phone until it was dead, and then a tablet until it was
too.
Halfway through the flight realized I had my laptop so I plugged a USB-A >>> cable into the shut-down folded-closed tiny HP Stream 11 laptop.
But it didn't charge anything via the (shut down) laptop USB-A port.
If I opened the laptop (still shut down) it still didn't charge out the
USB-A port to a phone - but if I booted to Windows 10, then it did
charge.
Why?
Is this normal Windows 10 behavior?
Or is this normal HP laptop behavior?
Why doesn't an HP Win10 laptop USB charge when it's folded & turned off?
Short answer is *because* it is turned *OFF*.
If a laptop didn't completely shut down all of its electronics apart
from the on/off button then the battery life would be terrible.
It has to be on for the USB ports to provide power out and then it may
well negotiate a higher charge rate with your phone if it is USB C.
My Acer Swift Edge has four USB ports of which one Type 3.2 provides power-off charging. It depends entirely on the laptop and the port, the version of Windows is irrelevant.
On 2025-01-09 22:18, Marion wrote:[...]
Was on a long flight on an Airbus 320 series jet from Spirit Airlines which I had never flown on before and I found there are no electrical chargers.
Why doesn't an HP Win10 laptop USB charge when it's folded & turned off?
It is configurable, Arlen.
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-01-09 22:18, Marion wrote:[...]
Was on a long flight on an Airbus 320 series jet from Spirit Airlines which >>> I had never flown on before and I found there are no electrical chargers.
Why doesn't an HP Win10 laptop USB charge when it's folded & turned off?
It is configurable, Arlen.
He should have booked with FOSS Airlines: Free, no ads and all the
power and privacy he wants. ... Oops!
But indeed, it's configurable. As I wrote, with any laptop, you should
at least get 500mA out of it, with a little luck 900mA. Not much for
charging a smartphone, but probably enough to keep it running.
On 10/01/2025 11:00, MikeS wrote:
On 10/01/2025 09:44, Martin Brown wrote:
On 09/01/2025 21:18, Marion wrote:Wrong.
Was on a long flight on an Airbus 320 series jet from Spirit
Airlines which
I had never flown on before and I found there are no electrical
chargers.
No USB outlets. No electrical outlets. No reclining seats. No
seatback entertainment. No seat pouches. Nothing.
So I used my phone until it was dead, and then a tablet until it was
too.
Halfway through the flight realized I had my laptop so I plugged a
USB-A
cable into the shut-down folded-closed tiny HP Stream 11 laptop.
But it didn't charge anything via the (shut down) laptop USB-A port.
If I opened the laptop (still shut down) it still didn't charge out the >>>> USB-A port to a phone - but if I booted to Windows 10, then it did
charge.
Why?
Is this normal Windows 10 behavior?
Or is this normal HP laptop behavior?
Why doesn't an HP Win10 laptop USB charge when it's folded & turned
off?
Short answer is *because* it is turned *OFF*.
If a laptop didn't completely shut down all of its electronics apart
from the on/off button then the battery life would be terrible.
It has to be on for the USB ports to provide power out and then it
may well negotiate a higher charge rate with your phone if it is USB C.
Laptops with USB 3.2 with power off charging are not all that common.
My Acer Swift Edge has four USB ports of which one Type 3.2 provides
power-off charging. It depends entirely on the laptop and the port,
the version of Windows is irrelevant.
The version of Windows/Linux/iOS is irrelevant but most laptops in circulation at present require that they are switched *on* and running
before any of the external USB ports are powered up.
On Fri, 1/10/2025 1:46 AM, Peter wrote:
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Why doesn't an HP Win10 laptop USB charge when it's folded & turned off? >>>It is configurable
You're dead wrong. It's not configurable. What made you think it was?
We don't have a precise model number.
This is what a precise model number looks like.
HP Stream 11-ah117wm
https://www.amazon.ca/HP-Stream-11-ah117wm-Celeron-Windows/dp/B07KQXQWMK
and the machines in that product line, are low end.
(Modern OSes don't have a lot of pep on 2C 2T.)
If you had sufficient warning this would happen, you
could carry a power bank.
"Can you take Anker 737 on a plane?
Yes, it's allowed in your carry-on as it falls below the 100 Wh limit."
I suppose you could place a solar panel up against the window
and pretend you're camping. There is a larger power bank that
has a solar input, but that one would exceed the 100wh limit,
if that's what the limit is. Maybe you could hide some batteries
in your shampoo bottle :-)
Paul
On a sunny day (Fri, 10 Jan 2025 09:41:07 -0500) it happened Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote in <vlrbi3$2bmc$1@dont-email.me>:
On Fri, 1/10/2025 1:46 AM, Peter wrote:
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Why doesn't an HP Win10 laptop USB charge when it's folded & turned off? >>>>It is configurable
You're dead wrong. It's not configurable. What made you think it was?
We don't have a precise model number.
This is what a precise model number looks like.
HP Stream 11-ah117wm
https://www.amazon.ca/HP-Stream-11-ah117wm-Celeron-Windows/dp/B07KQXQWMK >>
and the machines in that product line, are low end.
(Modern OSes don't have a lot of pep on 2C 2T.)
If you had sufficient warning this would happen, you
could carry a power bank.
"Can you take Anker 737 on a plane?
Yes, it's allowed in your carry-on as it falls below the 100 Wh limit." >>
I suppose you could place a solar panel up against the window
and pretend you're camping. There is a larger power bank that
has a solar input, but that one would exceed the 100wh limit,
if that's what the limit is. Maybe you could hide some batteries
in your shampoo bottle :-)
Paul
I have a small box with a handle you can turn to charge its battery.
Maybe you could bring a big one on board ;-)
Maube with pedals...,
I suppose you could place a solar panel up against the window
and pretend you're camping. There is a larger power bank that
has a solar input, but that one would exceed the 100wh limit,
if that's what the limit is. Maybe you could hide some batteries
in your shampoo bottle :-)
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