• Disabling unneeded services in Windows 10

    From John C.@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 16 03:44:23 2025
    I am planning on disabling unnecessary services on my Windows 10 Pro
    computer. My reasons for doing so are (a) to preserve privacy and (b) to conserve system resources. To that end, I've done some searching around
    and put together a list of such services as recommended from these websites:

    1. https://umatechnology.org/which-windows-services-can-you-safely-disable-in-windows-11-10/:

    2. https://www.groovypost.com/howto/12-windows-10-services-that-are-safe-to-disable/

    3. https://www.minitool.com/news/windows-10-services-to-disable.html

    Eg. My computer doesn't even have any kind of bluetooth capabilities, so
    I plan on disabling an


    There are many such websites, but I figure these are enough. Bear in mind:

    1. Create a restore point before doing any of this

    2. You might run into 1 or more services you'll be unable to disable.
    They're that way for a reason, even if it's not a good one. However,
    just forget about such services. Disabling them usually will break
    something.

    3. YMMV.

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    John C.

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  • From John C.@21:1/5 to John C. on Thu Jan 16 03:45:39 2025
    John C. wrote:
    I am planning on disabling unnecessary services on my Windows 10 Pro computer. My reasons for doing so are (a) to preserve privacy and (b) to conserve system resources. To that end, I've done some searching around
    and put together a list of such services as recommended from these websites:

    1. https://umatechnology.org/which-windows-services-can-you-safely-disable-in-windows-11-10/:

    2. https://www.groovypost.com/howto/12-windows-10-services-that-are-safe-to-disable/

    3. https://www.minitool.com/news/windows-10-services-to-disable.html

    Eg. My computer doesn't even have any kind of bluetooth capabilities, so
    I plan on disabling an

    Sorry about that typo. I meant to say that I plan on disabling all
    services related to bluetooth.

    There are many such websites, but I figure these are enough. Bear in mind:

    1. Create a restore point before doing any of this

    2. You might run into 1 or more services you'll be unable to disable.
    They're that way for a reason, even if it's not a good one. However,
    just forget about such services. Disabling them usually will break
    something.

    3. YMMV.


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    John C.

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  • From Newyana2@21:1/5 to John C. on Thu Jan 16 08:54:39 2025
    On 1/16/2025 6:44 AM, John C. wrote:
    I am planning on disabling unnecessary services on my Windows 10 Pro computer. My reasons for doing so are (a) to preserve privacy and (b) to conserve system resources. To that end, I've done some searching around
    and put together a list of such services as recommended from these websites:

    1. https://umatechnology.org/which-windows-services-can-you-safely-disable-in-windows-11-10/:

    2. https://www.groovypost.com/howto/12-windows-10-services-that-are-safe-to-disable/

    3. https://www.minitool.com/news/windows-10-services-to-disable.html

    Eg. My computer doesn't even have any kind of bluetooth capabilities, so
    I plan on disabling an


    There are many such websites, but I figure these are enough. Bear in mind:

    1. Create a restore point before doing any of this

    2. You might run into 1 or more services you'll be unable to disable.
    They're that way for a reason, even if it's not a good one. However,
    just forget about such services. Disabling them usually will break
    something.

    3. YMMV.


    I think that people need to understand what these things do before
    disabling anything. Everyone has different needs. Also, on Win10/11,
    some services a blocked. When you try to disable it simply says, "The
    parameter is incorrect". E-passive aggression. Those services have
    to be disabled by setting the startup value to 4 in the Registry. The
    name of the Registry key is in the settings window for the service.

    I like to make sure that remote connections are blocked, for security.
    With that in mind, here's my additional list of disabled services:

    AllJoynRS, Application Layer Gateway, Auto Time ZU, Capture Service,
    Cellular Time, Connected Devices*, Connected User*, Contact Data,
    Delivery Opt, Device Mngmt WAP, Display*, Distributed*, Downloaded
    Maps Manager, Enterprise App..., File History, Function Discovery*, Geolocation, Hyper-V*, All of Intel except the Graphics Command..., McpManagement, Microsoft Diag, Microsoft Account Sign-in, Microsoft
    Edge* iSCI Passport* Storage Store Windows SMS, Natural Auth, Netlogon,
    Network Connected Devices and Connection Broker, OpenSSH, Payments...,
    Peer*, Performance Counter, Phone, Remote Desktop*, Remote Reg,
    Retail Demo, Routing and Remote Access, Server, Shared PC Account...,
    Smart*, SNMP, SSDP, Storage Service, Sync Host, TCP/IP NetBIOS,
    UPnP, User Data Access, Volume Shadow Copy, Web Acct Man, WebClient,
    WiFi, Windows Backup Biometric Camera ConnectNow ErrorRep Insider
    Mobile Push* RemoteMgmnt Search Time Update*, Workstation, XBox*

    Note that this is a configuration for a desktop that's not on a network
    and connects only via ethernet. I also don't use Windows backup or
    Windows Store.
    For me the most important things are dangerous security issues, like
    Remote
    Desktop. But some people might use that daily. On a corporate network
    you'll probably also need other things like workstation... So people need to understand what they're disabling.

    And there are a few that are absolutely critical, like Remote
    Procedure Call
    and Background Tasks Infrastructure.

    I've noticed that a surpising number of Win10 services don't appear
    on Win11.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 16 12:43:15 2025
    On Thu, 1/16/2025 8:54 AM, Newyana2 wrote:
    On 1/16/2025 6:44 AM, John C. wrote:
    I am planning on disabling unnecessary services on my Windows 10 Pro
    computer. My reasons for doing so are (a) to preserve privacy and (b) to
    conserve system resources. To that end, I've done some searching around
    and put together a list of such services as recommended from these websites: >>
    1.
    https://umatechnology.org/which-windows-services-can-you-safely-disable-in-windows-11-10/:

    2.
    https://www.groovypost.com/howto/12-windows-10-services-that-are-safe-to-disable/

    3. https://www.minitool.com/news/windows-10-services-to-disable.html

    Eg. My computer doesn't even have any kind of bluetooth capabilities, so
    I plan on disabling an


    There are many such websites, but I figure these are enough. Bear in mind: >>
    1. Create a restore point before doing any of this

    2. You might run into 1 or more services you'll be unable to disable.
    They're that way for a reason, even if it's not a good one. However,
    just forget about such services. Disabling them usually will break
    something.

    3. YMMV.


      I think that people need to understand what these things do before disabling anything. Everyone has different needs. Also, on Win10/11,
    some services a blocked. When you try to disable it simply says, "The parameter is incorrect". E-passive aggression. Those services have
    to be disabled by setting the startup value to 4 in the Registry. The
    name of the Registry key is in the settings window for the service.

      I like to make sure that remote connections are blocked, for security.
    With that in mind, here's my additional list of disabled services:

    AllJoynRS, Application Layer Gateway, Auto Time ZU, Capture Service,
    Cellular Time, Connected Devices*, Connected User*, Contact Data,
    Delivery Opt, Device Mngmt WAP, Display*, Distributed*, Downloaded
    Maps Manager, Enterprise App..., File History, Function Discovery*, Geolocation, Hyper-V*, All of Intel except the Graphics Command..., McpManagement, Microsoft Diag, Microsoft Account Sign-in, Microsoft
    Edge* iSCI Passport* Storage Store Windows SMS, Natural Auth, Netlogon, Network Connected Devices and Connection Broker, OpenSSH, Payments...,
    Peer*, Performance Counter, Phone, Remote Desktop*, Remote Reg,
    Retail Demo, Routing and Remote Access, Server, Shared PC Account...,
    Smart*, SNMP, SSDP, Storage Service, Sync Host, TCP/IP NetBIOS,
    UPnP, User Data Access, Volume Shadow Copy, Web Acct Man, WebClient,
    WiFi, Windows Backup Biometric Camera ConnectNow ErrorRep Insider
    Mobile Push* RemoteMgmnt Search Time Update*, Workstation, XBox*

      Note that this is a configuration for a desktop that's not on a network
    and connects only via ethernet. I also don't use Windows backup or
    Windows Store.
      For me the most important things are dangerous security issues, like Remote Desktop. But some people might use that daily. On a corporate network
    you'll probably also need other things like workstation... So people need to understand what they're disabling.

     And there are a few that are absolutely critical, like Remote Procedure Call and Background Tasks Infrastructure.

      I've noticed that a surpising number of Win10 services don't appear on Win11.

    The problem with being on a tear, is you can make mistakes. I see this:

    Volume Shadow Copy

    in your list. That's going to *degrade* a Full image backup you make in Windows.
    VSS allows "hot" copies of C: to be made. The service is not provided on WinPE and is not needed there, as booting a CD to make backups, all the HDD file systems are then "at rest".

    Paul

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  • From Newyana2@21:1/5 to Paul on Thu Jan 16 14:05:02 2025
    On 1/16/2025 12:43 PM, Paul wrote:


    The problem with being on a tear, is you can make mistakes. I see this:

    Volume Shadow Copy

    in your list. That's going to *degrade* a Full image backup you make in Windows.

    That's why I stressed that everyone will have their own needs
    when it comes to services. I don't and never would use Windows
    to make backups. I do backup of files and I use disk imaging with
    BootIt. Backing up with Windows has limited usefulness and results
    in unnecessary bloat. I disable System Restore. But some people
    like to use it. So people need to understand services and know
    which ones they want. Some of the things I disable might also
    be a problem for people who use file sharing, remote or local, for
    example. But I would never enable such risky functionality, so I
    disable related services. I also disable Windows Store and its
    install service. Many people use Windows Store. So my list is a
    guide of many things that CAN be disabled without breaking things.
    It's not a list of what should be disabled.

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  • From MR@21:1/5 to John C. on Fri Jan 17 01:32:21 2025
    On 16/01/2025 11:44, John C. wrote:
    I am planning on disabling unnecessary services on my Windows 10 Pro computer.

    Very good idea. You can then blame Indians and Chinese if your computer
    doesn't work as expected.

    I have always believed that people like you are the most stupidest in
    this world and the worst thing is you are confirming this by posting
    silly questions here and blaming Indians for your stupidity.

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  • From Newyana2@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 17 08:18:44 2025
    On 1/16/2025 8:32 PM, MR wrote:
    On 16/01/2025 11:44, John C. wrote:
    I am planning on disabling unnecessary services on my Windows 10 Pro
    computer.

    Very good idea. You can then blame Indians and Chinese if your computer doesn't work as expected.


    Do you just assume that Microsoft knows best in all things?
    Did you know that "Retail Demo" service is enabled by default?
    That's for setting a computer to be a sample in Staples. Windows
    computers are assumed to be corporate workstations (or retail
    demos). Even the "Home" version. They're set up accordingly. For
    better security and efficiency, adjusting services can be useful.

    Another great tip? Take your bread out of the plastic bag
    before you eat it.... You might be surprised at how much of
    the world is not designed for you to consume blindly.

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  • From Steve Hayes@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 18 02:25:33 2025
    On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 08:18:44 -0500, Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam>
    wrote:

    On 1/16/2025 8:32 PM, MR wrote:
    On 16/01/2025 11:44, John C. wrote:
    I am planning on disabling unnecessary services on my Windows 10 Pro
    computer.

    Very good idea. You can then blame Indians and Chinese if your computer
    doesn't work as expected.


    Do you just assume that Microsoft knows best in all things?
    Did you know that "Retail Demo" service is enabled by default?
    That's for setting a computer to be a sample in Staples. Windows
    computers are assumed to be corporate workstations (or retail
    demos). Even the "Home" version. They're set up accordingly. For
    better security and efficiency, adjusting services can be useful.

    Though that is true, I look at the list of Windows services and have
    no idea what most of them are used for. I'm reluctant to mess with
    things that I know too little about.


    --
    Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
    Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
    Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
    E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Steve Hayes on Fri Jan 17 21:07:47 2025
    On Fri, 1/17/2025 7:25 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 08:18:44 -0500, Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam>
    wrote:

    On 1/16/2025 8:32 PM, MR wrote:
    On 16/01/2025 11:44, John C. wrote:
    I am planning on disabling unnecessary services on my Windows 10 Pro
    computer.

    Very good idea. You can then blame Indians and Chinese if your computer
    doesn't work as expected.


    Do you just assume that Microsoft knows best in all things?
    Did you know that "Retail Demo" service is enabled by default?
    That's for setting a computer to be a sample in Staples. Windows
    computers are assumed to be corporate workstations (or retail
    demos). Even the "Home" version. They're set up accordingly. For
    better security and efficiency, adjusting services can be useful.

    Though that is true, I look at the list of Windows services and have
    no idea what most of them are used for. I'm reluctant to mess with
    things that I know too little about.

    Just the names are annoying.

    They changed one of them to "SysMain".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Microsoft_Windows_components

    "Superfetch SysMain Monitors file usage patterns and boosts system
    speed by caching frequently accessed files to RAM[19]"

    If you have a SATA SSD or an NVMe, then you could disable that without
    too much of an issue. I sometimes shut that down, when a Windows Update
    is not progressing at an acceptable speed. That's when I start pushing
    buttons on my Fisher Price operating panel :-)

    One you *can't* shut down is RPC. First of all, it won't let you.
    Second of all, if you attack while the OS is offline, then it's
    not going to finish booting. That is Remote Procedure Call, and
    when it makes a remote call to 127.0.0.1 then it is a Local Procedure Call
    in effect. Because RPC is "used for everything", it is now so indispensable,
    it cannot be removed.

    That is some examples of the extremes.

    If you damage LSASS or CSRSS, the OS shuts down in 60 seconds.
    The Sasser malware attacked one of those, years ago.

    The list is huge, and I expect this will make an excellent hobby for someone :-)

    Paul

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  • From Newyana2@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 18 16:53:26 2025
    On 1/18/2025 3:01 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
    Newyana2 wrote on 1/17/25 6:18 AM:

       Do you just assume that Microsoft knows best in all things?
    Did you know that "Retail Demo" service is enabled by default?
    That's for setting a computer to be a sample in Staples. Windows
    computers are assumed to be corporate workstations (or retail
    demos). Even the "Home" version. They're set up accordingly. For
    better security and efficiency, adjusting services can be useful.

       Another great tip? Take your bread out of the plastic bag
    before you eat it.... You might be surprised at how much of
    the world is not designed for you to consume blindly.

    The default for 'Retail Demo' service on a retail or OEM as-shipped to corporate or consumer device is 'Manaul' and 'Stopped'.

    Yes, which is what I said. Enabled.

    Sometime it's important to look at the bread before telling someone its
    rye when not aware it was white.


    It was just an example, so no need to torture the metaphor. :)
    Sometimes, Winston, I think that Bill Gates must have saved
    you from drowning. You're loyalty is quite strange.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 18 18:06:30 2025
    On Sat, 1/18/2025 4:53 PM, Newyana2 wrote:
    On 1/18/2025 3:01 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
    Newyana2 wrote on 1/17/25 6:18 AM:

       Do you just assume that Microsoft knows best in all things?
    Did you know that "Retail Demo" service is enabled by default?
    That's for setting a computer to be a sample in Staples. Windows
    computers are assumed to be corporate workstations (or retail
    demos). Even the "Home" version. They're set up accordingly. For
    better security and efficiency, adjusting services can be useful.

       Another great tip? Take your bread out of the plastic bag
    before you eat it.... You might be surprised at how much of
    the world is not designed for you to consume blindly.

    The default for 'Retail Demo' service on a retail or OEM as-shipped to corporate or consumer device is 'Manaul' and 'Stopped'.

    Yes, which is what I said. Enabled.

    Sometime it's important to look at the bread before telling someone its rye when not aware it was white.


       It was just an example, so no need to torture the metaphor. :)
    Sometimes, Winston, I think that Bill Gates must have saved
    you from drowning. You're loyalty is quite strange.

    Hay, Bill Gates is the only sane billionaire on the planet.
    Now, what do you say. Think of all the extra mischief he
    could have got into. You know, his own fleet of rockets
    and shit. Or using diesel generators to run an AI training
    farm that keeps increasing in size.

    Paul

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  • From Newyana2@21:1/5 to Paul on Sat Jan 18 20:46:48 2025
    On 1/18/2025 6:06 PM, Paul wrote:
    On Sat, 1/18/2025 4:53 PM, Newyana2 wrote:


    Hay, Bill Gates is the only sane billionaire on the planet.
    Now, what do you say. Think of all the extra mischief he
    could have got into. You know, his own fleet of rockets
    and shit. Or using diesel generators to run an AI training
    farm that keeps increasing in size.


    There's some sense in that. A billionaire who thinks
    he's a genius, wants to own public education, and thinks
    he should be in charge of worldwide healthcare, is probably
    better than Elon Musk. Musk, after all, views Earth as a
    disposable resource that we'll ruin and then move elsewhere.
    That's a whole other level of genius stupidity and arrogance.

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to winstonmvp@gmail.com on Sun Jan 19 19:51:12 2025
    ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:
    Newyana2 wrote on 1/18/25 2:53 PM:
    On 1/18/2025 3:01 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
    Newyana2 wrote on 1/17/25 6:18 AM:

       Do you just assume that Microsoft knows best in all things?
    Did you know that "Retail Demo" service is enabled by default?
    That's for setting a computer to be a sample in Staples. Windows
    computers are assumed to be corporate workstations (or retail
    demos). Even the "Home" version. They're set up accordingly. For
    better security and efficiency, adjusting services can be useful.

       Another great tip? Take your bread out of the plastic bag
    before you eat it.... You might be surprised at how much of
    the world is not designed for you to consume blindly.

    The default for 'Retail Demo' service on a retail or OEM as-shipped to
    corporate or consumer device is 'Manaul' and 'Stopped'.

    Yes, which is what I said. Enabled.

    Sometime it's important to look at the bread before telling someone its
    rye when not aware it was white.

    No loyalty, involved. Just clarity.
    Enabled for this service in its default setting has no impact. No
    activity, no cpu usage, no background activity, no disk activity -
    dormant and unused.

    No to mention that there is no such state (actually Startup type) as "enabled" for a service!

    "enabled" is FUD for the service not being Disabled and being in
    another state, in this case Startup type Manual and Service status
    Stopped.

    But "enabled" sounds nicely dangerous, doesn't it!? Evil Microsoft and
    all that!

    And you have the audacity to counter that with *facts*!? Bad Winston,
    bad, bad Winston!

    => no bearing unless one purchased a retail demo pc(floor model).
    - The only other possible way on any device(retail or OEM) to activate
    the service's feature is to perform a detailed sequence of steps (which
    no one in a consumer, smb, or enterprise environment does or has need too[maybe only you and Darrin DeYoung] to instruct Windows to obtain the latest available demo and content and then and only then configure the
    demo mode to run until the demo's admin access is removed, a
    predetermined time, or permanently after setting up an admin password.

    i.e. for this forum, your comment is basically useless and just another complaint lacking clarity and value added benefit - adjusting this
    service from its default(manual, no started)yields the exact same result .

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  • From wasbit@21:1/5 to John C. on Wed Jan 22 10:40:27 2025
    On 16/01/2025 11:44, John C. wrote:
    I am planning on disabling unnecessary services on my Windows 10 Pro computer. My reasons for doing so are (a) to preserve privacy and (b) to conserve system resources. To that end, I've done some searching around
    and put together a list of such services as recommended from these websites:

    1. https://umatechnology.org/which-windows-services-can-you-safely-disable-in-windows-11-10/:

    2. https://www.groovypost.com/howto/12-windows-10-services-that-are-safe-to-disable/

    3. https://www.minitool.com/news/windows-10-services-to-disable.html

    Eg. My computer doesn't even have any kind of bluetooth capabilities, so
    I plan on disabling an


    There are many such websites, but I figure these are enough. Bear in mind:

    1. Create a restore point before doing any of this

    2. You might run into 1 or more services you'll be unable to disable.
    They're that way for a reason, even if it's not a good one. However,
    just forget about such services. Disabling them usually will break
    something.

    3. YMMV.


    Tiny10 ?
    - https://github.com/IL01DI/Tiny10/releases


    --
    Regards
    wasbit

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