• Can I only put one .iso file on a flashdrive

    From micky@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 22 22:38:40 2025
    A friend without a DVD player in his pc wants to play the DVD**

    I said I would copy it to an .iso file on a flashdrive. Using Imgburn
    which I have used in the past.

    My recollection is that one can only put one .iso file on a flashdrive.
    Right? This is the main question. Google didn't seem to answer it.

    I"m thinking that now he says he only has one DVD, but later he'll want
    many more.

    When I googled to see the limit was one, I didn't get an answer, but I
    came across https://www.atera.com/blog/how-to-put-multiple-operating-systems-on-a-flash-drive/
    but that is about putting more than one OS on a flashdrive. Still it
    sounded like something I should remember for my own future needs. Has
    anyone used it, or something similar?


    **He bought an external DVD player but it doesn't work somehow. I'm temporarily too sick to go over there.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to micky on Thu Jan 23 00:39:28 2025
    On Wed, 1/22/2025 10:38 PM, micky wrote:
    A friend without a DVD player in his pc wants to play the DVD**

    I said I would copy it to an .iso file on a flashdrive. Using Imgburn
    which I have used in the past.

    My recollection is that one can only put one .iso file on a flashdrive. Right? This is the main question. Google didn't seem to answer it.

    I"m thinking that now he says he only has one DVD, but later he'll want
    many more.

    When I googled to see the limit was one, I didn't get an answer, but I
    came across https://www.atera.com/blog/how-to-put-multiple-operating-systems-on-a-flash-drive/
    but that is about putting more than one OS on a flashdrive. Still it
    sounded like something I should remember for my own future needs. Has
    anyone used it, or something similar?


    **He bought an external DVD player but it doesn't work somehow. I'm temporarily too sick to go over there.


    Right-click an ISO file on your hard drive,
    select either "Mount" if it is offered at the top
    of the list. If not offered, the alternative is to "Open With: File Explorer" Opening with file Explorer, Explorer knows it is a .ISO
    and so it mounts the ISO as if it was a virtual DVD drive.
    Complete with Eject capability. Certain kinds of discs have
    a relatively standard format, which is why these things
    open for us.

    The result is a virtual DVD drive. There is a video_ts folder
    and there are .vob files inside. Each .vob is a chapter.
    VLC will play a chapter, if the chapter is unencrypted.

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/8PMH8xCM/dvd-mounter.gif

    This means you can store a series of .ISO files in a flat directory
    if you want, on your USB stick, at 7GB or so each. You don't absolutely
    have to unpack them and store a mess of VOBs all over the place.
    It's a lot of unnecessary work, to post-process a "ripped" (DeCSS)
    DVD image if properly done. I only own one Hollywood DVD, which you see in the example, and using DeCSS in Linux, I was able to "rip" the DVD and
    remove the crypto from the ISO. BluRay discs are another matter entirely.
    Don't know a thing about those. Don't own one either :-)

    E: \
    movie1.iso \
    movie2.iso \___ A USB stick with four unencrypted ISO on it.
    movie3.iso /
    movie4.iso /

    If a Hollywood DVD has "weak sector" protection, that can
    allow it to play in a "Set Top Box" DVD player, but not in
    a computer DVD drive. "Ripping" the media with the right
    tool, will restore the viewing rights to the recipient.
    The Set Top Box players, ignore certain info on the DVD,
    and the manufacturers took advantage of the sensitivity
    of computer DVD setups, versus the lax Set Top Box player.

    Scroll down here, to see a variety of ripper tools.
    There is a *big difference in quality* in these tools.
    Some of them are famous for their ability to solve problems.
    The one which is just a copy of DeCSS would be a weak sauce
    by comparison, as DeCSS is only part of the story, and typical
    users want a "full service" ripper that solves all problems.

    https://www.videohelp.com/software/sections/decrypters-dvd-rippers

    That's the problem with a videohelp link -- the users forget to scroll
    down, as the answer is always under the screen. I made this mistake
    *multiple times* before I discovered I was supposed to be scrolling
    down when people gave me links there :-) Just passing on the warning.

    Paul

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  • From MR@21:1/5 to micky on Thu Jan 23 05:19:46 2025
    On 23/01/2025 03:38, micky wrote:
    When I googled to see the limit was one, I didn't get an answer, but I
    came across https://www.atera.com/blog/how-to-put-multiple-operating-systems-on-a-flash-drive/
    but that is about putting more than one OS on a flashdrive. Still it
    sounded like something I should remember for my own future needs. Has
    anyone used it, or something similar?


    I use Ventoy. <https://www.ventoy.net/en/download.html>

    You can use different distros to try from one flash drive.

    you first need to prepare a flash-drive to boot-up then you can simply
    copy the ISO files on to it and then boot-up the machine from the
    flash-drive. That is all because you can choose which distros to boot-up.

    Hope you recover soon and be a regular user here again soon.

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to micky on Thu Jan 23 10:34:37 2025
    On 2025-01-23 04:38, micky wrote:
    A friend without a DVD player in his pc wants to play the DVD**

    I said I would copy it to an .iso file on a flashdrive. Using Imgburn
    which I have used in the past.

    My recollection is that one can only put one .iso file on a flashdrive. Right? This is the main question. Google didn't seem to answer it.

    I"m thinking that now he says he only has one DVD, but later he'll want
    many more.

    When I googled to see the limit was one, I didn't get an answer, but I
    came across https://www.atera.com/blog/how-to-put-multiple-operating-systems-on-a-flash-drive/
    but that is about putting more than one OS on a flashdrive. Still it
    sounded like something I should remember for my own future needs. Has
    anyone used it, or something similar?

    You can use tricks to put several boot isos, ie, more than one os.

    But as iso, you can only put one.

    As file, you can copy as many as you like, and then mount one on the destination computer. But if they are movies, for example, they will not
    play in a player.


    I'm thinking that you could "burn" each iso separately to one partition.
    What that would achieve I can not really guess. It would do nothing
    worth, I think, but software could be designed to make use of that.


    **He bought an external DVD player but it doesn't work somehow. I'm temporarily too sick to go over there.


    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From Java Jive@21:1/5 to micky on Thu Jan 23 13:07:05 2025
    On 2025-01-23 03:38, micky wrote:

    A friend without a DVD player in his pc wants to play the DVD**

    I said I would copy it to an .iso file on a flashdrive. Using Imgburn
    which I have used in the past.

    My recollection is that one can only put one .iso file on a flashdrive. Right? This is the main question. Google didn't seem to answer it.

    I"m thinking that now he says he only has one DVD, but later he'll want
    many more.

    When I googled to see the limit was one, I didn't get an answer, but I
    came across https://www.atera.com/blog/how-to-put-multiple-operating-systems-on-a-flash-drive/
    but that is about putting more than one OS on a flashdrive. Still it
    sounded like something I should remember for my own future needs. Has
    anyone used it, or something similar?

    **He bought an external DVD player but it doesn't work somehow. I'm temporarily too sick to go over there.

    Sorry you are unwell, there seems to be a lot of it about ATM.

    A lot depends on what is on the DVD(s), which you don't tell us ...

    If it's media, such as a movie, then Paul has explained already how to
    do this. It shouldn't matter how many ISOs you put on the USB drive, as
    long as it has enough space on it to hold what is required.

    If it's games, then I suspect that there will be at least some variance, possibly a great deal, by the type of game, etc, but really I wouldn't
    be the person to ask about this anyway.

    However, if there is a need to boot from the DVD, and Ventoy, as
    suggested by MR, doesn't work, then I might be your guy, but if, as
    seems from the above, your friend is not particularly computer savvy,
    then I suspect that he's in for crash learning course.

    See a recent thread* of mine dated 2025-01-06 and cross-posted to ...
    alt.os.linux,
    uk.comp.os.linux,
    alt.windows7.general
    ... entitled ...
    "SOLVED: One Rescue USB does it all"
    ... where, in the final two sections, I launch various Ubuntu and
    Windows installation ISOs using grub.

    * And possibly also its earlier incarnation of 2024-06-22 similarly cross-posted entitled ...
    "One Rescue USB does it all, well that's the plan at any rate"
    ... but I don't think there is anything that you would need in that
    earlier thread that isn't reproduced in the later thread.

    In summary, you have to install, and thereafter maintain, grub somehow,
    and that's probably going to be easiest if you also install at least a
    minimal Linux OS, but, as simply I installed XUbuntu into one of the partitions, I didn't go into any detail there on obtaining a minimal
    Linux installation. Thereafter, you can use the grub examples given in
    thread to experiment with launching different ISOs directly from grub.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to micky on Thu Jan 23 11:07:03 2025
    On Wed, 1/22/2025 10:38 PM, micky wrote:

    **He bought an external DVD player but it doesn't work somehow. I'm temporarily too sick to go over there.

    You need a series of test titles, to test a drive.

    For example, I have some DVDs I made myself. Those don't
    have crypto or weak sector protection, so those should
    play in a computer. A wedding-video DVD is an example
    of something that should play in the DVD player (VLC should
    be enough, to read the menu and select a chapter). These are
    non-Hollywood medias that should play properly.

    Paul

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Chris on Thu Jan 23 19:51:59 2025
    On 2025-01-23 18:20, Chris wrote:
    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
    A friend without a DVD player in his pc wants to play the DVD**

    I said I would copy it to an .iso file on a flashdrive. Using Imgburn
    which I have used in the past.

    My recollection is that one can only put one .iso file on a flashdrive.
    Right? This is the main question. Google didn't seem to answer it.

    An iso is just a file like any other so you can store as many as you like
    for simply transferring from one place to another. Which seems to be what you're asking.

    *Burning* an image to a drive is a one time thing - typically - but is burning really what you're after? Or just copying the iso?

    We use the term "burning" when referring to flash media to mean writing
    the file to the raw media, destroying whatever filesystem was there.
    When inserting that flash media the computer acts as if you inserted a
    CD/DVD, and can boot directly from it.

    dd if=somefile.iso of=/dev/sdd

    It is equivalent to burning to a DVD using burning software. Only a
    single ISO can be burned to a given stick.


    Providing an iso file to your friend is sufficient as they can mount it locally and "play" it. I don't *think* there's any need for you to burn anything to a flash drive.


    Right.


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  • From micky@21:1/5 to java@evij.com.invalid on Fri Jan 24 09:54:43 2025
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 23 Jan 2025 13:07:05 +0000, Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    On 2025-01-23 03:38, micky wrote:

    A friend without a DVD player in his pc wants to play the DVD**

    I said I would copy it to an .iso file on a flashdrive. Using Imgburn
    which I have used in the past.

    My recollection is that one can only put one .iso file on a flashdrive.
    Right? This is the main question. Google didn't seem to answer it.

    I"m thinking that now he says he only has one DVD, but later he'll want
    many more.

    When I googled to see the limit was one, I didn't get an answer, but I
    came across
    https://www.atera.com/blog/how-to-put-multiple-operating-systems-on-a-flash-drive/
    but that is about putting more than one OS on a flashdrive. Still it
    sounded like something I should remember for my own future needs. Has
    anyone used it, or something similar?

    **He bought an external DVD player but it doesn't work somehow. I'm
    temporarily too sick to go over there.

    Sorry you are unwell, there seems to be a lot of it about ATM.

    But not like my csse. I had serious back pain and went to a pain
    doctor. Twice he used shots to anesthetize a nerve, and twice he used a
    steroid shot, and they had no effect. So he suggested a spinal cord stimulator, something like noise cancelling headphones, that send a
    frenquency into the spinal cord that masks the pain.

    This was just a TRIAL, without implanint the fig newton size device
    inside me, only taped to my side, and only two wires going near my
    spinal cord.

    After 7 days it didn't wdrk either, he removed it. Within 5 minutes the
    pain in the orignal spot in my back was enormous and within 30 minutes,
    my thighs and crotch started going numb. `15 minutes later, I couldn't
    move my legs and had to be carried on a sheet to the guerney for the
    ambulance.

    At the hospital within 30 minutes my ankles, legs, and toes started
    moving again, so I was only paralysed for 3 hours. That was a relief.
    But I didn't notice until the next day that I had total urinary
    incontinence, caused by a hematoma on my spinal cord. They say that is
    likely to go away when the hemantoma is absorbed, but can take up to 3
    months. It's now 6 weeks with 7 more to go, or maybe it will not go away
    at all. I"m optimistic. The doctor has been a jerk, afaic.

    A lot depends on what is on the DVD(s), which you don't tell us ...

    I thought I did but I'll take your word for this.

    If it's media, such as a movie, then Paul has explained already how to
    do this. It shouldn't matter how many ISOs you put on the USB drive, as
    long as it has enough space on it to hold what is required.

    It is a movie. This post should be a thank-you and reply to everyone.

    I used Imgburn to make an .iso of the file, but it didn't work. I had
    tried to be clever by leaving some files on the flashdrive and figure
    Imgburn would delete them or complain, but neither happened, so I blamed
    that, deleted everything and did it again. The second one didn't work
    either, and eventually I noticed the flashdrive was empty. I had put the
    .iso on the D drive and not the E drive. So I did it a 3rd time.

    This time I started VLC first and used it to find the .iso, and it
    brought up an introductory page. My friend had gotten that far too,
    using an external DVD drive. But clicking on the words like Full Feature
    and Sections made it blink and change colors but nothing else happened.
    Finally I right clicked, put the cursor on Playback, moved the cursor to Titles, and them moved the cursor to a specific title, as those menus
    opened. And it played.

    Maybe the first one I made would have worked too if I'd tried right
    clicking. The few dvd's I've had I played on a DVD player, and the only
    .iso I remembewr using was a copy of windows 10 I dl'd and used to
    install windows. It didn't have an introductory page, and that's what
    confused both of us, but he needed the virtual DVD, and now he has one.

    I forgot to check if it will play straight through from start to finish,
    but a) this seems good enough for an instructional Tai-Chi video where
    each title is about one particular tai chi move/stance/whatever; and b)
    I put over 5 hours into this, so that's enough. They do lots of favors
    for me, so I'm happy to find something I can do for them. OTOH, he has
    a Ph.D. in math and worked in technical fields all his career, so I'm
    surprised he needs help at all. He's 84 iirc and his back is bent, but I
    see no sign that his mind has slowed at all. That is, he would have
    needed this help 30 years ago too.

    He also had an external DVD drive that works now with a similar method,
    I had been finding the DVD or the virtual DVD in a file manager and
    didn't know which file to click on, and none of them worked anyhow.
    Maybe I was supposed to click on the folder?

    Putting more than one .iso on a flashdrive was not the immediate goal,
    so I read everything people wrote, but that can wait.

    So thanks again, to you and everyone.


    If it's games, then I suspect that there will be at least some variance, >possibly a great deal, by the type of game, etc, but really I wouldn't
    be the person to ask about this anyway.

    However, if there is a need to boot from the DVD, and Ventoy, as
    suggested by MR, doesn't work, then I might be your guy, but if, as
    seems from the above, your friend is not particularly computer savvy,
    then I suspect that he's in for crash learning course.

    See a recent thread* of mine dated 2025-01-06 and cross-posted to ...
    alt.os.linux,
    uk.comp.os.linux,
    alt.windows7.general
    ... entitled ...
    "SOLVED: One Rescue USB does it all"
    ... where, in the final two sections, I launch various Ubuntu and
    Windows installation ISOs using grub.

    * And possibly also its earlier incarnation of 2024-06-22 similarly >cross-posted entitled ...
    "One Rescue USB does it all, well that's the plan at any rate"
    ... but I don't think there is anything that you would need in that
    earlier thread that isn't reproduced in the later thread.

    In summary, you have to install, and thereafter maintain, grub somehow,
    and that's probably going to be easiest if you also install at least a >minimal Linux OS, but, as simply I installed XUbuntu into one of the >partitions, I didn't go into any detail there on obtaining a minimal
    Linux installation. Thereafter, you can use the grub examples given in >thread to experiment with launching different ISOs directly from grub.

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  • From Alan K.@21:1/5 to micky on Fri Jan 24 11:08:35 2025
    On 1/24/25 09:54 AM, micky wrote:
    So he suggested a spinal cord
    stimulator, something like noise cancelling headphones, that send a frenquency into the spinal cord that masks the pain.

    This was just a TRIAL, without implanint the fig newton size device
    inside me, only taped to my side, and only two wires going near my
    spinal cord.
    I've had 4 surgeries for mine. My doc suggested this stimulator too but to me that's not fixing the
    issue.

    --
    Linux Mint 22.1, Cinnamon 6.4.6, Kernel 6.8.0-51-generic
    Thunderbird 128.5.2esr, Mozilla Firefox 134.0.1
    Alan K.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to E.R." on Sat Jan 25 12:48:15 2025
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 23 Jan 2025 19:51:59 +0100, "Carlos
    E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    On 2025-01-23 18:20, Chris wrote:
    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
    A friend without a DVD player in his pc wants to play the DVD**

    I said I would copy it to an .iso file on a flashdrive. Using Imgburn
    which I have used in the past.

    My recollection is that one can only put one .iso file on a flashdrive.
    Right? This is the main question. Google didn't seem to answer it.

    An iso is just a file like any other so you can store as many as you like
    for simply transferring from one place to another. Which seems to be what
    you're asking.

    *Burning* an image to a drive is a one time thing - typically - but is
    burning really what you're after? Or just copying the iso?

    We use the term "burning" when referring to flash media to mean writing
    the file to the raw media, destroying whatever filesystem was there.

    The point of the following story is that Imgburn didn't destory the
    files that werer there, like I thouhgt it would.

    My answer to Java Jave wss meant for everyone and explained why it
    took me 3 tries to make the virtual DVD.

    The first time I thoguth I'd be clever and, though I'd moved the few
    files alredy on the flashdrive, I didn't delete them and expected
    Imgburn to do that. When it didn't, I deleted them myself and still it
    didn't work as a virtual DVD (or it did, but I didn't right click on the introdcutory page that I think showed up.)

    Then I erased the files on the flashdrive and did it again, but this
    time I wrote it to the C: Drive instead of D. Then I wondered why it
    didnt' work.

    The 3rd time it worked.
    -- end of story --

    When inserting that flash media the computer acts as if you inserted a >CD/DVD, and can boot directly from it.

    Not quite as good as a red dvd in a dvd drive, for me. The first starts
    up on its own, and this one requred starting VLC and finding the dvd
    entity.

    dd if=somefile.iso of=/dev/sdd

    It is equivalent to burning to a DVD using burning software. Only a
    single ISO can be burned to a given stick.

    I think so too, but in this case, the stick was onoy 2gigs big and the
    files were 1.7 gigs big, so no extra space anyhnow. The stick ws named
    after the defense contractor he worked for 10 years ago, so it was old
    and that's why it was so small.

    Providing an iso file to your friend is sufficient as they can mount it
    locally and "play" it. I don't *think* there's any need for you to burn
    anything to a flash drive.


    Right.

    I thought burn was reserved for cd and dvd disks where some heat, laser
    hear, was actually involved in writing to them.

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to micky on Sat Jan 25 20:16:06 2025
    On 2025-01-25 18:48, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 23 Jan 2025 19:51:59 +0100, "Carlos
    E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    On 2025-01-23 18:20, Chris wrote:
    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
    A friend without a DVD player in his pc wants to play the DVD**

    I said I would copy it to an .iso file on a flashdrive. Using Imgburn >>>> which I have used in the past.

    My recollection is that one can only put one .iso file on a flashdrive. >>>> Right? This is the main question. Google didn't seem to answer it.

    An iso is just a file like any other so you can store as many as you like >>> for simply transferring from one place to another. Which seems to be what >>> you're asking.

    *Burning* an image to a drive is a one time thing - typically - but is
    burning really what you're after? Or just copying the iso?

    We use the term "burning" when referring to flash media to mean writing
    the file to the raw media, destroying whatever filesystem was there.

    The point of the following story is that Imgburn didn't destory the
    files that werer there, like I thouhgt it would.

    Which means it did not do a burn, but a file copy.

    In Linux parlance (but Windows also has the 'dd' command) it is:

    dd if=filename.iso of=/dev/sdd

    which means copy filename.iso to the disk device of the destination, not
    to the filesystem existing in the device. The operation destroys
    whatever filesystem existed in the stick.

    What Imgburn did was perhaps:

    cp filename.iso d:\

    It might instead have opened the iso and copied the files inside.



    My answer to Java Jave wss meant for everyone and explained why it
    took me 3 tries to make the virtual DVD.

    The first time I thoguth I'd be clever and, though I'd moved the few
    files alredy on the flashdrive, I didn't delete them and expected
    Imgburn to do that. When it didn't, I deleted them myself and still it
    didn't work as a virtual DVD (or it did, but I didn't right click on the introdcutory page that I think showed up.)

    Then I erased the files on the flashdrive and did it again, but this
    time I wrote it to the C: Drive instead of D. Then I wondered why it
    didnt' work.

    The 3rd time it worked.
    -- end of story --

    When inserting that flash media the computer acts as if you inserted a
    CD/DVD, and can boot directly from it.

    Not quite as good as a red dvd in a dvd drive, for me. The first starts
    up on its own, and this one requred starting VLC and finding the dvd
    entity.

    Because it is Windows and not Linux, so VLC has to be clever.



    dd if=somefile.iso of=/dev/sdd

    It is equivalent to burning to a DVD using burning software. Only a
    single ISO can be burned to a given stick.

    I think so too, but in this case, the stick was onoy 2gigs big and the
    files were 1.7 gigs big, so no extra space anyhnow. The stick ws named
    after the defense contractor he worked for 10 years ago, so it was old
    and that's why it was so small.

    Providing an iso file to your friend is sufficient as they can mount it
    locally and "play" it. I don't *think* there's any need for you to burn
    anything to a flash drive.


    Right.

    I thought burn was reserved for cd and dvd disks where some heat, laser
    hear, was actually involved in writing to them.

    Yes, true, but we also use the verb with flashsticks indicating a
    special mode of copy.

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    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From David@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 25 23:21:13 2025
    On 23/01/2025 10:11, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
    [....]
    No, you can put as many isos as you wish on a flash drive that has
    sufficient storage space to hold the iso files.

    My 32 GB flash drive has ISO's for Win11 22/23/24H2 plus IMG(mountable
    file like ISO) for both M365 Family and Office 2019 Home and Business.

    Those 5 account for ~25 GB. Leaving room for all my other primary programs'installers(just shy of 2 GB more - iTunes, Imaging, Browsers,
    and few other utilities and diskpart scripts)

    Do you use Ventoy to assist with accessing those iso files?

    https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html

    I've been using Ventoy recently and found that it worked really well.

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Carlos E.R. on Sun Jan 26 01:55:07 2025
    On 2025-01-25 20:16, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-01-25 18:48, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 23 Jan 2025 19:51:59 +0100, "Carlos
    E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    On 2025-01-23 18:20, Chris wrote:
    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
    A friend without a DVD player in his pc wants to play the DVD**

    I said I would copy it to an .iso file on a flashdrive.   Using
    Imgburn
    which I have used in the past.

    My recollection is that one can only put one .iso file on a
    flashdrive.
    Right?   This is the main question.  Google didn't seem to answer it. >>>>
    An iso is just a file like any other so you can store as many as you
    like
    for simply transferring from one place to another. Which seems to be
    what
    you're asking.

    *Burning* an image to a drive is a one time thing - typically - but is >>>> burning really what you're after? Or just copying the iso?

    We use the term "burning" when referring to flash media to mean writing
    the file to the raw media, destroying whatever filesystem was there.

    The point of the following story is that Imgburn didn't destory the
    files that werer there, like I thouhgt it would.

    Which means it did not do a burn, but a file copy.

    In Linux parlance (but Windows also has the 'dd' command) it is:

      dd if=filename.iso  of=/dev/sdd

    which means copy filename.iso to the disk device of the destination, not
    to the filesystem existing in the device. The operation destroys
    whatever filesystem existed in the stick.

    What Imgburn did was perhaps:

      cp filename.iso  d:\

    It might instead have opened the iso and copied the files inside.

    I don't know how to explain this properly, because Linux and Windows
    have one important difference. In Linux, everything is a file. The raw
    hard disk is a file. You can format a hard disk simply by copying a file
    to a certain other file, or by writing to it. Formatting is not an
    special operation.

    "Burning" equals to formatting the stick with a DVD format, that we call
    ISO. In Linux, we can do that with dd, or with a simple copy:

    cp filename.iso /dev/sdd

    where /dev/sdd is the special file that is the stick. But this very
    similar in looks command:

    cp filename.iso /media/stick

    or in windows:

    cp filename.iso d:\

    is copying a file into the stick filesystem, not formatting it.
    Previously, we mounted /dev/sdd into /media/stick.

    To do the burning operation in Windows you need special software that
    can access the raw stick, and do a format.


    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to David on Sat Jan 25 23:29:59 2025
    On Sat, 1/25/2025 6:21 PM, David wrote:
    On 23/01/2025 10:11, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
    [....]
    No, you can put as many isos as you wish on a flash drive that has sufficient storage space to hold the iso files.

    My 32 GB flash drive has ISO's for Win11 22/23/24H2 plus IMG(mountable file like ISO) for both M365 Family and Office 2019 Home and Business.

    Those 5 account for ~25 GB. Leaving room for all my other primary programs'installers(just shy of 2 GB more - iTunes, Imaging, Browsers, and few other utilities and diskpart scripts)

    Do you use Ventoy to assist with accessing those iso files?

    https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html

    I've been using Ventoy recently and found that it worked really well.

    Isn't Ventoy mostly for LiveDVD usage and running multiple Live OSes
    from a single USB key ?

    Other people are referring to their USB keys which contain content
    in the ordinary way. These are not USB keys that are booting anything,
    they're just general purpose data storage keys. Since Windows allows
    some content to be mounted on the fly (as does Linux), you can
    mount some ISOs without needing a Ventoy.

    But speaking in very general terms, you might own two USB keys (it's a concept).
    One USB key is for emergency boot. The second USB key may contain
    utilities or materials to be used once the machine is running. That's
    what w¡ñ§±¤ñ is referring to, is his collection of general materials
    for repair work.

    USB keys don't have to be small or slow. There are some which are logically
    an SSD inside. This one, it uses a single controller chip for the purpose
    of behaving this way, and it's better than the average $0.59 chip inside
    the average USB stick. Reliability still unknown, and we just wait
    for reports to show up as to how good it really is. And you have to buy materials like this from reliable sources that don't deal in fraudulent versions.

    https://www.newegg.com/patriot-model-pef1tbrpmw32u/p/N82E16820225289

    Paul

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  • From David@21:1/5 to Paul on Sun Jan 26 08:13:18 2025
    On 26/01/2025 04:29, Paul wrote:
    On Sat, 1/25/2025 6:21 PM, David wrote:
    On 23/01/2025 10:11, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
    [....]
    No, you can put as many isos as you wish on a flash drive that has sufficient storage space to hold the iso files.

    My 32 GB flash drive has ISO's for Win11 22/23/24H2 plus IMG(mountable file like ISO) for both M365 Family and Office 2019 Home and Business.

    Those 5 account for ~25 GB. Leaving room for all my other primary programs'installers(just shy of 2 GB more - iTunes, Imaging, Browsers, and few other utilities and diskpart scripts)

    Do you use Ventoy to assist with accessing those iso files?

    https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html

    I've been using Ventoy recently and found that it worked really well.

    Isn't Ventoy mostly for LiveDVD usage and running multiple Live OSes
    from a single USB key ?

    That is what I was using it for.

    Other people are referring to their USB keys which contain content
    in the ordinary way. These are not USB keys that are booting anything, they're just general purpose data storage keys. Since Windows allows
    some content to be mounted on the fly (as does Linux), you can
    mount some ISOs without needing a Ventoy.

    I bow to your greater wisdom.

    But speaking in very general terms, you might own two USB keys (it's a concept).
    One USB key is for emergency boot. The second USB key may contain
    utilities or materials to be used once the machine is running. That's
    what w¡ñ§±¤ñ is referring to, is his collection of general materials for repair work.

    USB keys don't have to be small or slow. There are some which are logically an SSD inside. This one, it uses a single controller chip for the purpose
    of behaving this way, and it's better than the average $0.59 chip inside
    the average USB stick. Reliability still unknown, and we just wait
    for reports to show up as to how good it really is. And you have to buy materials like this from reliable sources that don't deal in fraudulent versions.

    https://www.newegg.com/patriot-model-pef1tbrpmw32u/p/N82E16820225289

    Paul

    That seems amazingly good value for money! :-D

    In the bottom of my 'box of bits' I still have this (working!) device:- https://icecat.co.uk/en/p/buffalo/ruf-c512m-u2-4/usb+flash+drives-usb+flash+blue+512mb-834254.html

    At the time of purchase, it cost me 'an arm and a leg'!

    --
    David

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to David on Sun Jan 26 06:14:41 2025
    On Sun, 1/26/2025 3:13 AM, David wrote:


    That seems amazingly good value for money! :-D

    In the bottom of my 'box of bits' I still have this (working!) device:- https://icecat.co.uk/en/p/buffalo/ruf-c512m-u2-4/usb+flash+drives-usb+flash+blue+512mb-834254.html

    At the time of purchase, it cost me 'an arm and a leg'!

    But that stick would have SLC or MLC flash in it. And it likely
    accepts a lot more write cycles than a modern stick.

    The TLC ones I've bought here, they don't seem to last. I
    have two dead ones, and a third is writing at 1.5MB/sec and
    it won't be long before it's cooked too.

    Paul

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to David on Sun Jan 26 16:00:10 2025
    David <David@example.net> wrote:

    [...]

    In the bottom of my 'box of bits' I still have this (working!) device:- https://icecat.co.uk/en/p/buffalo/ruf-c512m-u2-4/usb+flash+drives-usb+flash+blue+512mb-834254.html

    At the time of purchase, it cost me 'an arm and a leg'!

    I also still have one of those, a 512MB SanDisk cruzer micro with nice coloured covers (for the stick and the connector) in a small plastic
    box. It is still used as a 'Rescue media' stick for Macrium Reflect
    image backups. Probably still have the (paper) invoice somewhere, but as
    I still have both arms annd legs, I can't be bothered to check what it
    cost! :-)

    The next bigger one is 2GB, also a SanDisk cruzer micro, same size, so
    I can use the same covers.

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  • From David@21:1/5 to Frank Slootweg on Sun Jan 26 17:42:52 2025
    On 26/01/2025 16:00, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    David <David@example.net> wrote:

    [...]

    In the bottom of my 'box of bits' I still have this (working!) device:-
    https://icecat.co.uk/en/p/buffalo/ruf-c512m-u2-4/usb+flash+drives-usb+flash+blue+512mb-834254.html

    At the time of purchase, it cost me 'an arm and a leg'!

    I also still have one of those, a 512MB SanDisk cruzer micro with nice coloured covers (for the stick and the connector) in a small plastic
    box. It is still used as a 'Rescue media' stick for Macrium Reflect
    image backups. Probably still have the (paper) invoice somewhere, but as
    I still have both arms annd legs, I can't be bothered to check what it
    cost! :-)

    Haha! Thanks for responding, Frank!

    The next bigger one is 2GB, also a SanDisk cruzer micro, same size, so
    I can use the same covers.

    My 'best' thumb drive is also a SanDisk 'Cruzer Edge' 32 GB but it's
    amazing what one can buy nowadays at very modest cost.

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  • From David@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 26 17:16:53 2025
    On 26/01/2025 08:40, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
    David wrote on 1/25/25 4:21 PM:
    On 23/01/2025 10:11, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
    [....]
    No, you can put as many isos as you wish on a flash drive that has
    sufficient storage space to hold the iso files.

    My 32 GB flash drive has ISO's for Win11 22/23/24H2 plus
    IMG(mountable file like ISO) for both M365 Family and Office 2019
    Home and Business.

    Those 5 account for ~25 GB. Leaving room for all my other primary
    programs'installers(just shy of 2 GB more - iTunes, Imaging,
    Browsers, and few other utilities and diskpart scripts)

    Do you use Ventoy to assist with accessing those iso files?

    https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html

    I've been using Ventoy recently and found that it worked really well.

    No, those isos/img,exes are present on a single USB stick and each iso
    iso mountable when needed for installation, exe for installation, troubleshooting, or other file information or replacement - a handy,
    stick with a range of content like any other multi-purpose utility.

    OK. Thank you. :-)

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  • From Brian Gregory@21:1/5 to micky on Sun Jan 26 18:14:48 2025
    On 23/01/2025 03:38, micky wrote:
    A friend without a DVD player in his pc wants to play the DVD**

    I said I would copy it to an .iso file on a flashdrive. Using Imgburn
    which I have used in the past.

    So presumably it's either an unprotected, unencrypted DVD or you also
    have some software to decrypt it before you image it?

    --
    Brian Gregory (in England).

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  • From Brian Gregory@21:1/5 to Brian Gregory on Sun Jan 26 18:19:09 2025
    On 26/01/2025 18:14, Brian Gregory wrote:
    On 23/01/2025 03:38, micky wrote:
    A friend without a DVD player in his pc wants to play the DVD**

    I said I would copy it to an .iso file on a flashdrive.   Using Imgburn
    which I have used in the past.

    So presumably it's either an unprotected, unencrypted DVD or you also
    have some software to decrypt it before you image it?


    Oh wait. I think you're calling a DVD reader or DVD drive a "DVD
    player". How confusing of you. Forget I tried to answer.

    Or maybe you mean DVD player software?

    FFS.

    I give up.

    --
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  • From Drummond@21:1/5 to micky on Mon Jan 27 00:11:25 2025
    On 23/01/2025 03:38, micky wrote:
    I said I would copy it to an .iso file on a flashdrive. Using Imgburn
    which I have used in the past.

    Why use imgburn just to copy music files?

    The files can just be copied like any other files on a flash drive but
    if you are really concerned about the number of lose files then just zip
    them and then copy the zipped file on to the flash drive. This way you
    save the trouble the recipient is likely to face if he/she doesn't know
    what to do with the iso files.

    ISO files can be extracted but the recipient might not know how to do it.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to this@ddress.is.invalid on Sun Jan 26 18:58:23 2025
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on 26 Jan 2025 16:00:10 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

    David <David@example.net> wrote:

    [...]

    In the bottom of my 'box of bits' I still have this (working!) device:-
    https://icecat.co.uk/en/p/buffalo/ruf-c512m-u2-4/usb+flash+drives-usb+flash+blue+512mb-834254.html

    At the time of purchase, it cost me 'an arm and a leg'!

    I also still have one of those, a 512MB SanDisk cruzer micro with nice
    coloured covers (for the stick and the connector) in a small plastic

    My first flash drive came taped to the top of a stack of cd's. 512mb or smaller. I was so impressed that I had something new, and for free no
    less.

    box. It is still used as a 'Rescue media' stick for Macrium Reflect
    image backups. Probably still have the (paper) invoice somewhere, but as
    I still have both arms annd legs, I can't be bothered to check what it
    cost! :-)

    The next bigger one is 2GB, also a SanDisk cruzer micro, same size, so
    I can use the same covers.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to Drummond@lkjuj.com on Sun Jan 26 21:10:42 2025
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 27 Jan 2025 00:11:25 +0000, Drummond <Drummond@lkjuj.com> wrote:

    On 23/01/2025 03:38, micky wrote:
    I said I would copy it to an .iso file on a flashdrive. Using Imgburn
    which I have used in the past.

    Why use imgburn just to copy music files?

    Because it works?

    The files can just be copied like any other files on a flash drive but

    Not from what I've read. With a simple copy, the files are copied but
    their arrangement to ech other is not. A virtual DVD requires an .iso
    file afaik.

    if you are really concerned about the number of lose files then just zip
    them and then copy the zipped file on to the flash drive. This way you
    save the trouble the recipient is likely to face if he/she doesn't know
    what to do with the iso files.

    What if he doesn't know what to do with a zip file?

    ISO files can be extracted but the recipient might not know how to do it.

    That would be a big problem. That's why I made an .iso file itself,
    that doesn't need extraction.



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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to David on Mon Jan 27 08:00:16 2025
    David <David@example.net> wrote:
    On 26/01/2025 16:00, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    David <David@example.net> wrote:

    [...]

    In the bottom of my 'box of bits' I still have this (working!) device:-
    https://icecat.co.uk/en/p/buffalo/ruf-c512m-u2-4/usb+flash+drives-usb+flash+blue+512mb-834254.html

    At the time of purchase, it cost me 'an arm and a leg'!

    I also still have one of those, a 512MB SanDisk cruzer micro with nice coloured covers (for the stick and the connector) in a small plastic
    box. It is still used as a 'Rescue media' stick for Macrium Reflect
    image backups. Probably still have the (paper) invoice somewhere, but as
    I still have both arms annd legs, I can't be bothered to check what it cost! :-)

    Haha! Thanks for responding, Frank!

    The next bigger one is 2GB, also a SanDisk cruzer micro, same size, so
    I can use the same covers.

    My 'best' thumb drive is also a SanDisk 'Cruzer Edge' 32 GB but it's
    amazing what one can buy nowadays at very modest cost.

    Too bad they can be very slow and don't last long compared to the very old USB flash sticks. My 128 MB SanDisk Cruzer flash drive still work today! :O
    --
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  • From David@21:1/5 to Ant on Mon Jan 27 08:34:11 2025
    On 27/01/2025 08:00, Ant wrote:
    David <David@example.net> wrote:
    On 26/01/2025 16:00, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    David <David@example.net> wrote:

    [...]

    In the bottom of my 'box of bits' I still have this (working!) device:- >>>> https://icecat.co.uk/en/p/buffalo/ruf-c512m-u2-4/usb+flash+drives-usb+flash+blue+512mb-834254.html

    At the time of purchase, it cost me 'an arm and a leg'!

    I also still have one of those, a 512MB SanDisk cruzer micro with nice >>> coloured covers (for the stick and the connector) in a small plastic
    box. It is still used as a 'Rescue media' stick for Macrium Reflect
    image backups. Probably still have the (paper) invoice somewhere, but as >>> I still have both arms annd legs, I can't be bothered to check what it
    cost! :-)

    Haha! Thanks for responding, Frank!

    The next bigger one is 2GB, also a SanDisk cruzer micro, same size, so >>> I can use the same covers.

    My 'best' thumb drive is also a SanDisk 'Cruzer Edge' 32 GB but it's
    amazing what one can buy nowadays at very modest cost.

    Too bad they can be very slow and don't last long compared to the very old USB flash sticks.

    How do you know this to be true, Ant?!!

    My 128 MB SanDisk Cruzer flash drive still work today! :O

    That is GOOD news, but it cannot hold a 2GB file! ;-)

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to micky on Mon Jan 27 13:06:56 2025
    On 2025-01-27 03:10, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 27 Jan 2025 00:11:25 +0000, Drummond <Drummond@lkjuj.com> wrote:

    On 23/01/2025 03:38, micky wrote:
    I said I would copy it to an .iso file on a flashdrive. Using Imgburn
    which I have used in the past.

    Why use imgburn just to copy music files?

    Because it works?

    The files can just be copied like any other files on a flash drive but

    Not from what I've read. With a simple copy, the files are copied but
    their arrangement to ech other is not. A virtual DVD requires an .iso
    file afaik.

    A music CD or DVD has to be ripped. You copy the resulting files of the
    ripping into a directory in the stick. You also generate an .au3 file
    with the index so that it plays in order.



    if you are really concerned about the number of lose files then just zip
    them and then copy the zipped file on to the flash drive. This way you
    save the trouble the recipient is likely to face if he/she doesn't know
    what to do with the iso files.

    What if he doesn't know what to do with a zip file?

    ISO files can be extracted but the recipient might not know how to do it.

    That would be a big problem. That's why I made an .iso file itself,
    that doesn't need extraction.

    Any iso file does need extraction.

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From Mark Lloyd@21:1/5 to micky on Mon Jan 27 19:22:55 2025
    On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 18:58:23 -0500, micky wrote:

    [snip]

    My first flash drive came taped to the top of a stack of cd's. 512mb or smaller. I was so impressed that I had something new, and for free no
    less.

    IIRC, my first flash drive held 2MB. It came with a digital camera (one
    that wasn't very good, just VGA 320*200 resolution).

    [snip]



    --
    Mark Lloyd
    http://notstupid.us/

    "Have you passed flatus foday?

    No, doc, but I've sure been farting a
    lot."

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Mark Lloyd on Wed Jan 29 18:35:55 2025
    Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 18:58:23 -0500, micky wrote:

    [snip]

    My first flash drive came taped to the top of a stack of cd's. 512mb or smaller. I was so impressed that I had something new, and for free no less.

    IIRC, my first flash drive held 2MB. It came with a digital camera (one
    that wasn't very good, just VGA 320*200 resolution).

    [snip]

    At least, you were ahead of the crowds unless you got it late in the game. :P --
    "They cried 2 U & were saved; in yo they trusted & weren't disappointed." --Psalm 22:5. Quiet (L/C)NY's snek hump day after da last 2 slammy days from da old colony, etc.?
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to David on Wed Jan 29 18:35:12 2025
    David <David@example.net> wrote:
    On 27/01/2025 08:00, Ant wrote:
    David <David@example.net> wrote:
    On 26/01/2025 16:00, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    David <David@example.net> wrote:

    [...]

    In the bottom of my 'box of bits' I still have this (working!) device:- >>>> https://icecat.co.uk/en/p/buffalo/ruf-c512m-u2-4/usb+flash+drives-usb+flash+blue+512mb-834254.html

    At the time of purchase, it cost me 'an arm and a leg'!

    I also still have one of those, a 512MB SanDisk cruzer micro with nice
    coloured covers (for the stick and the connector) in a small plastic
    box. It is still used as a 'Rescue media' stick for Macrium Reflect
    image backups. Probably still have the (paper) invoice somewhere, but as >>> I still have both arms annd legs, I can't be bothered to check what it >>> cost! :-)

    Haha! Thanks for responding, Frank!

    The next bigger one is 2GB, also a SanDisk cruzer micro, same size, so
    I can use the same covers.

    My 'best' thumb drive is also a SanDisk 'Cruzer Edge' 32 GB but it's
    amazing what one can buy nowadays at very modest cost.

    Too bad they can be very slow and don't last long compared to the very old USB flash sticks.

    How do you know this to be true, Ant?!!

    Because ofd my newer flash sticks didn't last long compared to my old ones! :(


    My 128 MB SanDisk Cruzer flash drive still work today! :O

    That is GOOD news, but it cannot hold a 2GB file! ;-)

    And slower too. IIRC, USB1 speed. :O
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  • From Mark Lloyd@21:1/5 to Ant on Thu Jan 30 17:22:26 2025
    On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 18:35:55 +0000, Ant wrote:

    Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:

    [snip]

    IIRC, my first flash drive held 2MB. It came with a digital camera (one
    that wasn't very good, just VGA 320*200 resolution).

    [snip]

    At least, you were ahead of the crowds unless you got it late in the
    game. :P

    IIRC, It was about 1997.

    --
    Mark Lloyd
    http://notstupid.us/

    "Who is more godless than I, that I may rejoice in his teachings?"
    [Nietzsche]

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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to Mark Lloyd on Mon Apr 21 22:13:55 2025
    On 31/01/2025 4:22 am, Mark Lloyd wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 18:35:55 +0000, Ant wrote:

    Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:

    [snip]

    IIRC, my first flash drive held 2MB. It came with a digital camera (one
    that wasn't very good, just VGA 320*200 resolution).

    [snip]

    At least, you were ahead of the crowds unless you got it late in the
    game. :P

    IIRC, It was about 1997.

    I must have been dragging the chain then .... In 1999 or 2000 (whilst I
    was still using Win95/98 (Didn't 98 have some limitation on the max size
    it could "see"??)), I brought about a half dozen 256kb USB Drives ....
    and I think 3 or 4 of them are still unused in their little cellophane
    packages somewhere.
    --
    Daniel70

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