• A little fix for there being a delay before programs start

    From John C.@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 10 04:44:22 2025
    You may already be aware of this trick, but in case you're not I'm
    posting this here.

    After I reinstalled W10 Pro this week, I noticed that a problem I had
    been experiencing remained. What was happening was that if I used a
    shortcut keystroke combination to run a program, there was a three
    second delay before the program opened.

    Yes, this is a small thing, but since I open many programs that way,
    over time the delay became kind of annoying.

    I searched the internet and found out that having a bunch of apps
    running in the background causes the problem.

    To remedy the situation, you:

    1. Open Settings
    2. Click on Privacy
    3. Scroll down on the left hand column until you see "Background apps"
    and click on it.
    4. Gp through that list and turn off as many of the apps from running in
    the background as you can.

    Here's what I saw listed on my system and whether or not I disabled them
    from running in the background (OFF):

    3D Viewer OFF
    Calculator OFF
    Copilot OFF
    Feedback Hug OFF
    Get Help ON
    Maps OFF
    Microsoft Store OFF
    NViDIA Control Panel ON
    Paint 3D OFF
    Settings OFF
    Solitaire & Casual Games OFF
    Voice Recorder OF
    Windows Feature Experience Pack OF
    Windows Security ON

    After I did all this, opening a program by using a shortcut keystroke combination is now very fast again. Also, I've detected no negative consequences from having preventing any of these apps from running in
    the background.

    HTH

    --
    John C.

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  • From Newyana2@21:1/5 to John C. on Mon Feb 10 11:40:58 2025
    On 2/10/2025 7:44 AM, John C. wrote:
    You may already be aware of this trick, but in case you're not I'm
    posting this here.

    After I reinstalled W10 Pro this week, I noticed that a problem I had
    been experiencing remained. What was happening was that if I used a
    shortcut keystroke combination to run a program, there was a three
    second delay before the program opened.

    Yes, this is a small thing, but since I open many programs that way,
    over time the delay became kind of annoying.

    I searched the internet and found out that having a bunch of apps
    running in the background causes the problem.

    To remedy the situation, you:

    1. Open Settings
    2. Click on Privacy
    3. Scroll down on the left hand column until you see "Background apps"
    and click on it.
    4. Gp through that list and turn off as many of the apps from running in
    the background as you can.

    Here's what I saw listed on my system and whether or not I disabled them
    from running in the background (OFF):

    3D Viewer OFF
    Calculator OFF
    Copilot OFF
    Feedback Hug OFF
    Get Help ON
    Maps OFF
    Microsoft Store OFF
    NViDIA Control Panel ON
    Paint 3D OFF
    Settings OFF
    Solitaire & Casual Games OFF
    Voice Recorder OF
    Windows Feature Experience Pack OF
    Windows Security ON

    After I did all this, opening a program by using a shortcut keystroke combination is now very fast again. Also, I've detected no negative consequences from having preventing any of these apps from running in
    the background.


    I think I'd feel very lonely without a feedback hug, but to
    each their own.

    You can probably turn off NVidia. Those applets are
    usually bloated and only serve to make display settings
    available. I have Intel ARC, which I always leave turned
    off unless I need it. Most of those other items I don't
    even have. I removed them when initially cleaning
    up Win10.

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  • From John C.@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 10 12:06:06 2025
    On 25/02/10 08:40 AM, Newyana2 wrote:
    On 2/10/2025 7:44 AM, John C. wrote:
    You may already be aware of this trick, but in case you're not I'm
    posting this here.

    After I reinstalled W10 Pro this week, I noticed that a problem I had
    been experiencing remained. What was happening was that if I used a
    shortcut keystroke combination to run a program, there was a three
    second delay before the program opened.

    Yes, this is a small thing, but since I open many programs that way,
    over time the delay became kind of annoying.

    I searched the internet and found out that having a bunch of apps
    running in the background causes the problem.

    To remedy the situation, you:

    1. Open Settings
    2. Click on Privacy
    3. Scroll down on the left hand column until you see "Background apps"
    and click on it.
    4. Gp through that list and turn off as many of the apps from running in
    the background as you can.

    Here's what I saw listed on my system and whether or not I disabled them
    from running in the background (OFF):

    3D Viewer  OFF
    Calculator  OFF
    Copilot  OFF
    Feedback Hug  OFF
    Get Help  ON
    Maps  OFF
    Microsoft Store  OFF
    NViDIA Control Panel  ON
    Paint 3D  OFF
    Settings  OFF
    Solitaire & Casual Games  OFF
    Voice Recorder  OF
    Windows Feature Experience Pack  OF
    Windows Security ON

    After I did all this, opening a program by using a shortcut keystroke
    combination is now very fast again. Also, I've detected no negative
    consequences from having preventing any of these apps from running in
    the background.


      I think I'd feel very lonely without a feedback hug, but to
    each their own.

    Hadn't had my coffee yet. That'll larn me.

      You can probably turn off NVidia. Those applets are
    usually bloated and only serve to make display settings
    available. I have Intel ARC, which I always leave turned
    off unless I need it. Most of those other items I don't
    even have. I removed them when initially cleaning
    up Win10.

    Think I'll have a second cup. Just woke up from a nap.

    --
    John C.

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  • From John K.Eason@21:1/5 to John C. on Mon Feb 10 19:26:00 2025
    In article <vocsb7$16v7l$2@dont-email.me>, r9jmg0@yahoo.com (John C.) wrote:

    *From:* "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com>
    *Date:* Mon, 10 Feb 2025 04:44:22 -0800

    You may already be aware of this trick, but in case you're not I'm
    posting this here.

    After I reinstalled W10 Pro this week, I noticed that a problem I
    had
    been experiencing remained. What was happening was that if I used a
    shortcut keystroke combination to run a program, there was a three
    second delay before the program opened.

    Yes, this is a small thing, but since I open many programs that way,
    over time the delay became kind of annoying.

    I searched the internet and found out that having a bunch of apps
    running in the background causes the problem.

    To remedy the situation, you:

    1. Open Settings
    2. Click on Privacy
    3. Scroll down on the left hand column until you see "Background
    apps"
    and click on it.
    4. Gp through that list and turn off as many of the apps from
    running in
    the background as you can.

    Here's what I saw listed on my system and whether or not I disabled
    them
    from running in the background (OFF):

    3D Viewer OFF
    Calculator OFF
    Copilot OFF
    Feedback Hug OFF
    Get Help ON
    Maps OFF
    Microsoft Store OFF
    NViDIA Control Panel ON
    Paint 3D OFF
    Settings OFF
    Solitaire & Casual Games OFF
    Voice Recorder OF
    Windows Feature Experience Pack OF
    Windows Security ON

    After I did all this, opening a program by using a shortcut
    keystroke
    combination is now very fast again. Also, I've detected no negative consequences from having preventing any of these apps from running
    in
    the background.


    I turned off most of those a couple of years ago. However, having just checked them again, I see that one called "Dev Home" has appeared, presumably installed by
    an update. That's now turned off too...

    Googling the name says that it is:
    "a new control center for Windows providing the ability to monitor projects in your
    dashboard using customizable widgets, set up your dev environment by downloading
    apps, packages, or repositories, connect to your developer accounts and tools (such
    as GitHub), and create a Dev Drive for storage all in one place."
    There's a very recent MS article about it here: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/dev-home/
    --
    Regards
    John

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to John C. on Mon Feb 10 17:32:34 2025
    On Mon, 2/10/2025 7:44 AM, John C. wrote:
    You may already be aware of this trick, but in case you're not I'm
    posting this here.

    After I reinstalled W10 Pro this week, I noticed that a problem I had
    been experiencing remained. What was happening was that if I used a
    shortcut keystroke combination to run a program, there was a three
    second delay before the program opened.

    Yes, this is a small thing, but since I open many programs that way,
    over time the delay became kind of annoying.

    I searched the internet and found out that having a bunch of apps
    running in the background causes the problem.

    To remedy the situation, you:

    1. Open Settings
    2. Click on Privacy
    3. Scroll down on the left hand column until you see "Background apps"
    and click on it.
    4. Gp through that list and turn off as many of the apps from running in
    the background as you can.

    Here's what I saw listed on my system and whether or not I disabled them
    from running in the background (OFF):

    3D Viewer OFF
    Calculator OFF
    Copilot OFF
    Feedback Hug OFF
    Get Help ON
    Maps OFF
    Microsoft Store OFF
    NViDIA Control Panel ON
    Paint 3D OFF
    Settings OFF
    Solitaire & Casual Games OFF
    Voice Recorder OF
    Windows Feature Experience Pack OF
    Windows Security ON

    After I did all this, opening a program by using a shortcut keystroke combination is now very fast again. Also, I've detected no negative consequences from having preventing any of these apps from running in
    the background.

    HTH


    I would keep the Task Manager open, when you do the thing that responds
    slowly, and see which system process (like SIHOST.exe) is running or
    using cycles.

    That won't solve the problem, but it might narrow down what part
    of the system isn't tuned properly at the moment.

    Paul

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 10 16:55:47 2025
    Dev Home came out around May 2023, and Microsoft kills it 2 years later.
    Well, that's longer than their 1-year Microsoft Bob joke 29 years ago.
    They forced Dev Home onto hosts that had no need for it, or without announcement, so users got something unknown and unexpected.

    The only thing "recent" about the MS article that showed up in May 2023
    is an update on Jan 28, 2025 to note Microsoft is making it "go away".
    Some users, perhaps as a joke, have proposed that it may come back as
    Dev Copilot Home or as DevHome Copilot 365. Providing an organize tool
    to keep the disorganized busy wasn't enough, so shove in some AI for the uber-boobs.

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to John C. on Mon Feb 10 16:25:39 2025
    "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> wrote:

    After I reinstalled W10 Pro this week, I noticed that a problem I had
    been experiencing remained. What was happening was that if I used a
    shortcut keystroke combination to run a program, there was a three
    second delay before the program opened.

    Yes, this is a small thing, but since I open many programs that way,
    over time the delay became kind of annoying.

    I searched the internet and found out that having a bunch of apps
    running in the background causes the problem.

    To remedy the situation, you:

    1. Open Settings
    2. Click on Privacy
    3. Scroll down on the left hand column until you see "Background apps"
    and click on it.
    4. Gp through that list and turn off as many of the apps from running in
    the background as you can.

    Here's what I saw listed on my system and whether or not I disabled them
    from running in the background (OFF):

    3D Viewer OFF
    Calculator OFF
    Copilot OFF
    Feedback Hug OFF
    Get Help ON
    Maps OFF
    Microsoft Store OFF
    NViDIA Control Panel ON
    Paint 3D OFF
    Settings OFF
    Solitaire & Casual Games OFF
    Voice Recorder OF
    Windows Feature Experience Pack OF
    Windows Security ON

    After I did all this, opening a program by using a shortcut keystroke combination is now very fast again. Also, I've detected no negative consequences from having preventing any of these apps from running in
    the background.

    That provides the option for apps that don't have their own. If an app
    chooses to run in the background (resident), or is a service, it won't
    matter how you configure it under Background Apps (if it even has an
    entry there). For example, OneDrive, Google Drive, Dropbox, and other
    cloud sync clients remain resident, and they aren't listed under the
    Background Apps list. Services are still loaded according to their
    configured statup mode.

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-background-apps-and-your-privacy-83f2de44-d2d9-2b29-4649-2afe0913360a
    Exceptions to the privacy settings

    Desktop apps won¢t appear in your Choose which apps can run in the
    background list and are not affected by the Let apps run in the
    background setting. To allow or block desktop apps, use the settings
    in those applications.

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to John K.Eason on Mon Feb 10 16:34:59 2025
    "John K.Eason" <john@jeasonNoSpam.cix.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <vocsb7$16v7l$2@dont-email.me>, r9jmg0@yahoo.com (John C.) wrote:

    *From:* "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com>
    *Date:* Mon, 10 Feb 2025 04:44:22 -0800

    You may already be aware of this trick, but in case you're not I'm
    posting this here.

    After I reinstalled W10 Pro this week, I noticed that a problem I
    had
    been experiencing remained. What was happening was that if I used a
    shortcut keystroke combination to run a program, there was a three
    second delay before the program opened.

    Yes, this is a small thing, but since I open many programs that way,
    over time the delay became kind of annoying.

    I searched the internet and found out that having a bunch of apps
    running in the background causes the problem.

    To remedy the situation, you:

    1. Open Settings
    2. Click on Privacy
    3. Scroll down on the left hand column until you see "Background
    apps"
    and click on it.
    4. Gp through that list and turn off as many of the apps from
    running in
    the background as you can.
    ...

    I turned off most of those a couple of years ago. However, having just checked
    them again, I see that one called "Dev Home" has appeared, presumably installed by
    an update. That's now turned off too...

    Googling the name says that it is:
    "a new control center for Windows providing the ability to monitor projects in your
    dashboard using customizable widgets, set up your dev environment by downloading
    apps, packages, or repositories, connect to your developer accounts and tools (such
    as GitHub), and create a Dev Drive for storage all in one place."
    There's a very recent MS article about it here: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/dev-home/

    When I saw it listed in Background Apps, yep, I found the same MS
    article. I've never used it. Even after learning about it, still don't
    see a need for it. Just organizational fluff for the disorganized.

    It is not listed in the Add/Remove Programs wizard. It is not listed in
    the Start Menu programs list, but you can search on "dev home" to then
    open it. On my setup, running it pukes out an error that it needs to
    update, but I have Windows Update disabled, for now. I think
    Win+Shift+D is the hotkey combo to open it, but doesn't work on my setup (perhaps because it wants to update before it will load).

    As noted in the MS article, it is getting "going away" in May 2025.
    That is not the same a deprecated which means something remains for a
    while after support gets yanked. "Going away" hints Microsoft will push
    an "update" to remove it. I chose to remove it now. However, getting
    rid of it means having to remove its package, and it isn't listed in
    Add/Remove programs. I've read where some folks tried using Revo
    Uninstaller, but were unsuccessful. I found the following to run (as a one-line command) in a command prompt with elevated privileges:

    PowerShell "Get-AppxPackage -AllUsers -PackageTypeFilter Bundle -Name "*Windows.DevHome*" | Remove-AppxPackage -AllUsers"

    Found that noted at:

    https://www.elevenforum.com/t/uninstall-or-reinstall-dev-home-app-in-windows-11-and-windows-10.18397/#Two

    Poof, the never-used fluff is gone.

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  • From John C.@21:1/5 to Paul on Tue Feb 11 08:00:12 2025
    On 25/02/10 02:32 PM, Paul wrote:
    On Mon, 2/10/2025 7:44 AM, John C. wrote:
    You may already be aware of this trick, but in case you're not I'm
    posting this here.

    After I reinstalled W10 Pro this week, I noticed that a problem I had
    been experiencing remained. What was happening was that if I used a
    shortcut keystroke combination to run a program, there was a three
    second delay before the program opened.

    Yes, this is a small thing, but since I open many programs that way,
    over time the delay became kind of annoying.

    I searched the internet and found out that having a bunch of apps
    running in the background causes the problem.

    To remedy the situation, you:

    1. Open Settings
    2. Click on Privacy
    3. Scroll down on the left hand column until you see "Background apps"
    and click on it.
    4. Gp through that list and turn off as many of the apps from running in
    the background as you can.

    Here's what I saw listed on my system and whether or not I disabled them
    from running in the background (OFF):

    3D Viewer OFF
    Calculator OFF
    Copilot OFF
    Feedback Hug OFF
    Get Help ON
    Maps OFF
    Microsoft Store OFF
    NViDIA Control Panel ON
    Paint 3D OFF
    Settings OFF
    Solitaire & Casual Games OFF
    Voice Recorder OF
    Windows Feature Experience Pack OF
    Windows Security ON

    After I did all this, opening a program by using a shortcut keystroke
    combination is now very fast again. Also, I've detected no negative
    consequences from having preventing any of these apps from running in
    the background.

    HTH


    I would keep the Task Manager open, when you do the thing that responds slowly, and see which system process (like SIHOST.exe) is running or
    using cycles.

    My OP is the solution I found. It works, too.

    That won't solve the problem, but it might narrow down what part
    of the system isn't tuned properly at the moment.

    No need if my solution is used.

    --
    John C. No ad, CD, cripple, demo, nag, pay, pirated, share, spy,
    time-limited, trial or web wares for me please.

    I filter out crossposted messages, anything from various trolls like
    "Al" and block dizem.com. If you do the same, this newsgroup will be
    easier for you to read.

    Take back Microsoft from India.

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