• Today's "Windows 10 concern"

    From John C.@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 5 05:13:51 2025
    ...Every ...single ...day, some issue rears its ugly head in Windows
    10 and I wind up wasting time trying to deal with it. I absolutely
    detest Windows 10 and all the associated bullshit that this crappy OS
    requires in order to spy on me and cause me problems. The continual
    feature degradation and regressions in functionality as well.

    Unlike a lot of other people, I turn my cable modem and router off
    whenever I don't need to be on the internet. Today I noticed for the
    second day in a row, that there is a Microsoft executable named DeviceCensus.exe which runs briefly whenever I start up those two devices.

    So what is this "DeviceCensus.exe" executable (file path is C:\Windows\System32\DeviceCensus.exe, at least on my system)? The
    internet says:

    "DeviceCensus.exe is a legitimate system file in Windows 10, signed by Microsoft. It is part of the Telemetry Framework and is located in the
    System32 folder. Its primary function is to collect data on your
    device's hardware usage, _including webcam usage_, and report it back to Microsoft. This helps Microsoft optimize Windows for future updates and
    fix any bugs.
    If you notice that DeviceCensus.exe is using a lot of CPU or accessing
    your webcam, it is generally safe to keep it running. However, if you
    want to disable it temporarily, you can do so through the Task Scheduler.
    If you have any concerns about privacy or security, it's always a good
    idea to run a thorough antivirus scan to ensure that your system is not infected with malware."

    "Legitimate" in whose eyes? And how, exactly, does monitoring my webcam
    usage serve any purpose in determining which future version of Windows
    10 I need?

    I went into the Task Scheduler and disabled the piece of shit:

    Open Task Scheduler
    Click on the carat next to "Task Scheduler Library"
    Same on "Microsoft"
    Same on "Windows"
    Left click on "Device Information"
    Right click on "Device" in the right hand upper pane
    Select "Disable".
    If there's another task named "Device User" under "Device" do the same
    to it as well.

    Telemetry is just a euphemism for "Spyware" IMO.

    Microsoft: "Your privacy is important to us"

    Sure it is. As in "it's important that we rape your privacy as much as possible."

    --
    John C.

    Take back Microsoft from India.

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  • From Mr Xi Ji Ping@21:1/5 to John C. on Wed Mar 5 18:00:00 2025
    On 05/03/2025 13:13, John C. wrote:
    ...Every ...single ...day, some issue rears its ugly head in Windows
    10 and I wind up wasting time trying to deal with it. I absolutely
    detest Windows 10 and all the associated bullshit that this crappy OS requires in order to spy on me and cause me problems. The continual
    feature degradation and regressions in functionality as well.

    You have two choices:

    1) Use something else such as Linux Ubuntu or Linux Mint;
    2) Stop browsing child porn so Microsoft can spy on you and waste their
    time. Microsoft is only interested in people browsing child porn.


    Unlike a lot of other people, I turn my cable modem and router off
    whenever I don't need to be on the internet. Today I noticed for the
    second day in a row, that there is a Microsoft executable named DeviceCensus.exe which runs briefly whenever I start up those two devices.

    rename the file to RENAMED-DeviceCensus.exe.
    iT WON'T START AGAIN after renaming the file.


    So what is this "DeviceCensus.exe" executable (file path is C:\Windows\System32\DeviceCensus.exe, at least on my system)? The
    internet says:

    "DeviceCensus.exe is a legitimate system file in Windows 10, signed by Microsoft. It is part of the Telemetry Framework and is located in the System32 folder. Its primary function is to collect data on your
    device's hardware usage, _including webcam usage_, and report it back to Microsoft. This helps Microsoft optimize Windows for future updates and
    fix any bugs.
    If you notice that DeviceCensus.exe is using a lot of CPU or accessing your webcam, it is generally safe to keep it running. However, if you
    want to disable it temporarily, you can do so through the Task Scheduler.
    If you have any concerns about privacy or security, it's always a good idea to run a thorough antivirus scan to ensure that your system is not infected with malware."

    "Legitimate" in whose eyes? And how, exactly, does monitoring my webcam
    usage serve any purpose in determining which future version of Windows
    10 I need?

    They need an image of you which can be passed to the police for further
    action. Microsoft get paid by police for the service to catch pedos on internet.




    Telemetry is just a euphemism for "Spyware" IMO.


    Yes but it affects only a few people out of billions using Windows 10
    and Windows 11.



    Microsoft: "Your privacy is important to us"

    Sure it is. As in "it's important that we rape your privacy as much as possible."

    You are a dirty old man and sooner you are removed from the society the
    better it will be for the community you live in.


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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to John C. on Wed Mar 5 15:18:23 2025
    On Wed, 3/5/2025 8:13 AM, John C. wrote:
    ...Every ...single ...day, some issue rears its ugly head in Windows
    10 and I wind up wasting time trying to deal with it. I absolutely
    detest Windows 10 and all the associated bullshit that this crappy OS requires in order to spy on me and cause me problems. The continual
    feature degradation and regressions in functionality as well.

    Unlike a lot of other people, I turn my cable modem and router off
    whenever I don't need to be on the internet. Today I noticed for the
    second day in a row, that there is a Microsoft executable named DeviceCensus.exe which runs briefly whenever I start up those two devices.

    So what is this "DeviceCensus.exe" executable (file path is C:\Windows\System32\DeviceCensus.exe, at least on my system)? The
    internet says:

    "DeviceCensus.exe is a legitimate system file in Windows 10, signed by Microsoft. It is part of the Telemetry Framework and is located in the System32 folder. Its primary function is to collect data on your
    device's hardware usage, _including webcam usage_, and report it back to Microsoft. This helps Microsoft optimize Windows for future updates and
    fix any bugs.
    If you notice that DeviceCensus.exe is using a lot of CPU or accessing
    your webcam, it is generally safe to keep it running. However, if you
    want to disable it temporarily, you can do so through the Task Scheduler.
    If you have any concerns about privacy or security, it's always a good
    idea to run a thorough antivirus scan to ensure that your system is not infected with malware."

    "Legitimate" in whose eyes? And how, exactly, does monitoring my webcam
    usage serve any purpose in determining which future version of Windows
    10 I need?

    I went into the Task Scheduler and disabled the piece of shit:

    Open Task Scheduler
    Click on the carat next to "Task Scheduler Library"
    Same on "Microsoft"
    Same on "Windows"
    Left click on "Device Information"
    Right click on "Device" in the right hand upper pane
    Select "Disable".
    If there's another task named "Device User" under "Device" do the same
    to it as well.

    Telemetry is just a euphemism for "Spyware" IMO.

    Microsoft: "Your privacy is important to us"

    Sure it is. As in "it's important that we rape your privacy as much as possible."


    https://www.thewindowsclub.com/device-census-in-windows-10

    These descriptions are a bit on the funny side.

    It could be accessing the webcam, to collect PNP info, but
    that story is weak sauce. Unless the device has firmware
    it loads each time, and there are likely better ways to determine
    what firmware is being used, without probing the device.

    The device has already been probed as part of hardware enumeration.
    And that effort should be all that is needed. If Microsoft
    wanted to use their command line version of Device Manager to
    dump the hardware details, they could do that, and then the
    webcam would never be blocked.

    This all started with FrameServe, a subsystem that has no reason
    to exist. I caught a thread a couple weeks ago, which mentioned
    that two video conferencing softwares did not work, because
    "FrameServe does NOT serve frames" :-) which I thought was
    a hilarious declaration. The Device Census, would be part of
    identifying new webcams, and also for preparing the "generic"
    hardware support that replaces the custom driver your
    webcam manufacturer provided.

    My webcam never worked properly, after FrameServe came out.
    When I want to use my webcam, I use it in Windows 7. It
    stays *disconnected* in W10/W11, because it's really useless
    to me. The custom software had digital pan and zoon, and in a
    conference with my doctor, I could "center myself" in the picture
    before the session started. So I would not look like I was slouching
    in my chair or whatever. I can't do that in W10/W11. Feature is not there
    in the generic driver.

    I don't think enabling or disabling that, is going to make
    that much difference to the operation of the machine. No magical
    fairy is going to repair your webcam, based on a hundred million
    broken webcam reports landing on some schmucks desk at Microsoft.

    *******

    For the longest while, I did not pick up the pattern. Each "Improvement"
    had a different back story, throwing me off the path. What they're doing,
    is Microsoft *wants to write all the drivers for everything*. They are replacing the drivers. They don't want to allow the RealTek jumbo sound
    driver to install. Instead, they install their lame version of a driver
    with less features. That's the actual plan. So it wasn't "FrameServe"
    after all, it was "break their existing drivers, feed them dreck
    to replace it". That was the plan.

    Paul

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Paul on Thu Mar 6 10:33:35 2025
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    [...]

    https://www.thewindowsclub.com/device-census-in-windows-10

    These descriptions are a bit on the funny side.

    It could be accessing the webcam, to collect PNP info, but
    that story is weak sauce. Unless the device has firmware
    it loads each time, and there are likely better ways to determine
    what firmware is being used, without probing the device.

    The device has already been probed as part of hardware enumeration.
    And that effort should be all that is needed. If Microsoft
    wanted to use their command line version of Device Manager to
    dump the hardware details, they could do that, and then the
    webcam would never be blocked.

    AFAICT, this isn't really something to get one's knickers in a twist
    about.

    During installation - at least on Windows 11 - there's a question
    about this [1] and in Settings you can limit - but not eliminate - the
    amount of 'Diagnostic data', you can 'View diagnostic data' and you can
    'Delete diagnostic data'.

    For details: Settings -> Privacy & security -> Diagnostics & feedback

    If one decides to try to prevent Diagnostic data to be sent -
    preferably based on the actual content -, then it's probably best to try
    to block it in the firewall, instead of assuming/hoping that the Task
    Scheduler task won't be re-enabled.

    FWIW, my 'Diagnostic data' setting is set to 'Sending required data'
    and my computer hasn't been taken over by Microsoft (yet!? :-)).

    [...]

    [1] "Send diagnostic data to Microsoft" -> Required only -> [Accept]

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to r9jmg0@yahoo.com on Thu Mar 6 18:45:24 2025
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 5 Mar 2025 05:13:51 -0800, "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> wrote:

    So what is this "DeviceCensus.exe" executable (file path is >C:\Windows\System32\DeviceCensus.exe, at least on my system)? The

    Interestingly, I have the file too, 24KB, from 11/17/2024, but it's
    address is: C:\Windows\servicing\LCU\Package_for_RollupFix~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~19041.5371.1.9\amd64_microsoft-windows-devicecensus_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.19041.5198_none_2445ede1afad7996\f

    I wonder what the difference in locations means.

    I haven't checked if it runs or not. I'm not sure what else besides
    starting the router would cause it to perk up.

    The internet says:

    "DeviceCensus.exe is a legitimate system file in Windows 10, signed by >Microsoft. It is part of the Telemetry Framework and is located in the >System32 folder. Its primary function is to collect data on your
    device's hardware usage, _including webcam usage_, and report it back to >Microsoft. This helps Microsoft optimize Windows for future updates and
    fix any bugs.
    If you notice that DeviceCensus.exe is using a lot of CPU or accessing
    your webcam, it is generally safe to keep it running. However, if you
    want to disable it temporarily, you can do so through the Task Scheduler.
    If you have any concerns about privacy or security, it's always a good
    idea to run a thorough antivirus scan to ensure that your system is not >infected with malware."

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to micky on Thu Mar 6 20:15:07 2025
    On Thu, 3/6/2025 6:45 PM, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 5 Mar 2025 05:13:51 -0800, "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> wrote:

    So what is this "DeviceCensus.exe" executable (file path is
    C:\Windows\System32\DeviceCensus.exe, at least on my system)? The

    Interestingly, I have the file too, 24KB, from 11/17/2024, but it's
    address is: C:\Windows\servicing\LCU\Package_for_RollupFix~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~19041.5371.1.9\amd64_microsoft-windows-devicecensus_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.19041.5198_none_2445ede1afad7996\f

    I wonder what the difference in locations means.

    I haven't checked if it runs or not. I'm not sure what else besides
    starting the router would cause it to perk up.

    The internet says:

    "DeviceCensus.exe is a legitimate system file in Windows 10, signed by
    Microsoft. It is part of the Telemetry Framework and is located in the
    System32 folder. Its primary function is to collect data on your
    device's hardware usage, _including webcam usage_, and report it back to
    Microsoft. This helps Microsoft optimize Windows for future updates and
    fix any bugs.
    If you notice that DeviceCensus.exe is using a lot of CPU or accessing
    your webcam, it is generally safe to keep it running. However, if you
    want to disable it temporarily, you can do so through the Task Scheduler.
    If you have any concerns about privacy or security, it's always a good
    idea to run a thorough antivirus scan to ensure that your system is not
    infected with malware."

    C:\Windows\System32\DeviceCensus.exe # This would be the one that runs.

    C:\Windows\servicing\LCU # is an Undo folder for the Last Cumulative Update (Patch Tuesday)

    C:\Windows\WinSxS\ # Windows Side By Side maintenance tree (hardlinked to the first one)

    C:\Windows\WinSxS\Temp\InFlight\ # Not fully processed yet ? Waiting on a dependency ?

    WinSxS could have multiple older versions, or manifests for them.

    Paul

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  • From John C.@21:1/5 to Paul on Thu Mar 6 17:40:04 2025
    On 25/03/05 12:18 PM, Paul wrote:
    On Wed, 3/5/2025 8:13 AM, John C. wrote:
    ...Every ...single ...day, some issue rears its ugly head in Windows
    10 and I wind up wasting time trying to deal with it. I absolutely
    detest Windows 10 and all the associated bullshit that this crappy OS
    requires in order to spy on me and cause me problems. The continual
    feature degradation and regressions in functionality as well.

    Unlike a lot of other people, I turn my cable modem and router off
    whenever I don't need to be on the internet. Today I noticed for the
    second day in a row, that there is a Microsoft executable named
    DeviceCensus.exe which runs briefly whenever I start up those two devices. >>
    So what is this "DeviceCensus.exe" executable (file path is
    C:\Windows\System32\DeviceCensus.exe, at least on my system)? The
    internet says:

    "DeviceCensus.exe is a legitimate system file in Windows 10, signed by
    Microsoft. It is part of the Telemetry Framework and is located in the
    System32 folder. Its primary function is to collect data on your
    device's hardware usage, _including webcam usage_, and report it back to
    Microsoft. This helps Microsoft optimize Windows for future updates and
    fix any bugs.
    If you notice that DeviceCensus.exe is using a lot of CPU or accessing
    your webcam, it is generally safe to keep it running. However, if you
    want to disable it temporarily, you can do so through the Task Scheduler.
    If you have any concerns about privacy or security, it's always a good
    idea to run a thorough antivirus scan to ensure that your system is not
    infected with malware."

    "Legitimate" in whose eyes? And how, exactly, does monitoring my webcam
    usage serve any purpose in determining which future version of Windows
    10 I need?

    I went into the Task Scheduler and disabled the piece of shit:

    Open Task Scheduler
    Click on the carat next to "Task Scheduler Library"
    Same on "Microsoft"
    Same on "Windows"
    Left click on "Device Information"
    Right click on "Device" in the right hand upper pane
    Select "Disable".
    If there's another task named "Device User" under "Device" do the same
    to it as well.

    Telemetry is just a euphemism for "Spyware" IMO.

    Microsoft: "Your privacy is important to us"

    Sure it is. As in "it's important that we rape your privacy as much as
    possible."


    https://www.thewindowsclub.com/device-census-in-windows-10

    These descriptions are a bit on the funny side.

    It could be accessing the webcam, to collect PNP info, but
    that story is weak sauce. Unless the device has firmware
    it loads each time, and there are likely better ways to determine
    what firmware is being used, without probing the device.

    The device has already been probed as part of hardware enumeration.
    And that effort should be all that is needed. If Microsoft
    wanted to use their command line version of Device Manager to
    dump the hardware details, they could do that, and then the
    webcam would never be blocked.

    This all started with FrameServe, a subsystem that has no reason
    to exist. I caught a thread a couple weeks ago, which mentioned
    that two video conferencing softwares did not work, because
    "FrameServe does NOT serve frames" :-) which I thought was
    a hilarious declaration. The Device Census, would be part of
    identifying new webcams, and also for preparing the "generic"
    hardware support that replaces the custom driver your
    webcam manufacturer provided.

    My webcam never worked properly, after FrameServe came out.
    When I want to use my webcam, I use it in Windows 7. It
    stays *disconnected* in W10/W11, because it's really useless
    to me. The custom software had digital pan and zoon, and in a
    conference with my doctor, I could "center myself" in the picture
    before the session started. So I would not look like I was slouching
    in my chair or whatever. I can't do that in W10/W11. Feature is not there
    in the generic driver.

    I don't think enabling or disabling that, is going to make
    that much difference to the operation of the machine. No magical
    fairy is going to repair your webcam, based on a hundred million
    broken webcam reports landing on some schmucks desk at Microsoft.

    *******

    For the longest while, I did not pick up the pattern. Each "Improvement"
    had a different back story, throwing me off the path. What they're doing,
    is Microsoft *wants to write all the drivers for everything*. They are replacing the drivers. They don't want to allow the RealTek jumbo sound driver to install. Instead, they install their lame version of a driver
    with less features. That's the actual plan. So it wasn't "FrameServe"
    after all, it was "break their existing drivers, feed them dreck
    to replace it". That was the plan.

    Paul

    You're right, Paul. And they did the same thing to the popular Twain
    driver for most scanners built within the last 20 years or so. The
    disabled support for Twain drivers in W10 and for scanner and digital
    camera in-box drivers, Microsoft accepts only WIA drivers.

    There are workarounds, but what absolute horse shit. Many people are
    upset about this. If I hadn't been able to get my scanner to work AND
    figured out a way to get my RealTek chipset to use the RealTek HD Audio Manager, that would have been it for MS on any system I use.

    --
    John C.

    Take back Microsoft from India.

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  • From Newyana2@21:1/5 to John C. on Fri Mar 7 08:31:25 2025
    On 3/6/2025 8:40 PM, John C. wrote:


    I went into the Task Scheduler and disabled the piece of shit:

    Open Task Scheduler
    Click on the carat next to "Task Scheduler Library"
    Same on "Microsoft"
    Same on "Windows"
    Left click on "Device Information"
    Right click on "Device" in the right hand upper pane
    Select "Disable".
    If there's another task named "Device User" under "Device" do the same
    to it as well.


    Thanks for that. Mine was disabled but there was a Device User
    entry. I have most things in TS disabled. Though I also use
    Simplewall to block callinghome. There are numerous processes
    that try to call out.

    You're right, Paul. And they did the same thing to the popular Twain
    driver for most scanners built within the last 20 years or so. The
    disabled support for Twain drivers in W10 and for scanner and digital
    camera in-box drivers, Microsoft accepts only WIA drivers.


    To be fair, WIA works in XP, with a supporting printer.
    Printer makers have been slow to add support, but MS
    came out with WIA a long time ago. My somewhat old
    HP Envy supports both TWAIN and WIA. It supported
    WIA on XP. Though it was a bit spotty. For example,
    there's no way to ask whether it supports a given file
    extension. PNG? "Sure, bring it on." It gives me a PNG file,
    but it's actually a JPG. That wasn't WIA's fault. HP just
    hadn't done the whole job of supporting WIA. I don't know
    whether that's HP's fault for being half-assed or Microsoft's
    fault for designing a buggy interface.

    We get spoiled on Windows. Up until a year ago I was
    still running XP. A lot of software developers were still
    supporting it, 23 years after it came out. What if you
    were on a Mac? You'd have support only for the current and
    one earlier version. "Don't be a cheapskate. People stand
    in line for our toys. You should, too." Linux? Don't even try
    to imagine it. In 2001 you would have been lucky to get
    a program on Linux that could produce something to print.
    On current Linux they have no time for the past. Backward
    compatibility is an oxymoron. They worship at the alter of
    The Future. Hardware support is generally
    pretty good, but any kind of commitment to support is
    missing. Linux OS support? I think it's typically 6-18 months.
    I had to replace the OS on my Raspberry Pi 4 because it
    wouldn't support newer Chromium. Luckily I was able to
    install the latest Raspbian on the hardware. Of course,
    most people wouldn't be able to do that. But the OS was
    only 3 years old to begin with.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 7 19:04:00 2025
    On Fri, 3/7/2025 8:31 AM, Newyana2 wrote:
    On 3/6/2025 8:40 PM, John C. wrote:


    I went into the Task Scheduler and disabled the piece of shit:

    Open Task Scheduler
       Click on the carat next to "Task Scheduler Library"
         Same on "Microsoft"
           Same on "Windows"
             Left click on "Device Information"
               Right click on "Device" in the right hand upper pane
                 Select "Disable".
    If there's another task named "Device User" under "Device" do the same >>>> to it as well.


      Thanks for that. Mine was disabled but there was a Device User
    entry. I have most things in TS disabled. Though I also use
    Simplewall to block callinghome. There are numerous processes
    that try to call out.

    You're right, Paul. And they did the same thing to the popular Twain
    driver for most scanners built within the last 20 years or so. The
    disabled support for Twain drivers in W10 and for scanner and digital
    camera in-box drivers, Microsoft accepts only WIA drivers.


      To be fair, WIA works in XP, with a supporting printer.
    Printer makers have been slow to add support, but MS
    came out with WIA a long time ago. My somewhat old
    HP Envy supports both TWAIN and WIA. It supported
    WIA on XP. Though it was a bit spotty. For example,
    there's no way to ask whether it supports a given file
    extension. PNG? "Sure, bring it on." It gives me a PNG file,
    but it's actually a JPG. That wasn't WIA's fault. HP just
    hadn't done the whole job of supporting WIA. I don't know
    whether that's HP's fault for being half-assed or Microsoft's
    fault for designing a buggy interface.

      We get spoiled on Windows. Up until a year ago I was
    still running XP. A lot of software developers were still
    supporting it, 23 years after it came out. What if you
    were on a Mac? You'd have support only for the current and
    one earlier version. "Don't be a cheapskate. People stand
    in line for our toys. You should, too." Linux? Don't even try
    to imagine it. In 2001 you would have been lucky to get
    a program on Linux that could produce something to print.
    On current Linux they have no time for the past. Backward
    compatibility is an oxymoron. They worship at the alter of
    The Future. Hardware support is generally
    pretty good, but any kind of commitment to support is
    missing. Linux OS support? I think it's typically 6-18 months.
    I had to replace the OS on my Raspberry Pi 4 because it
    wouldn't support newer Chromium. Luckily I was able to
    install the latest Raspbian on the hardware. Of course,
    most people wouldn't be able to do that. But the OS was
    only 3 years old to begin with.

    Stuck in the present, we are.

    It seems like just yesterday, that I dusted in here.

    Paul

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to winstonmvp@gmail.com on Sat Mar 8 00:11:25 2025
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 7 Mar 2025 01:02:25 -0700, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

    micky wrote on 3/6/2025 4:45 PM:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 5 Mar 2025 05:13:51 -0800, "John C."
    <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> wrote:

    So what is this "DeviceCensus.exe" executable (file path is
    C:\Windows\System32\DeviceCensus.exe, at least on my system)? The

    Interestingly, I have the file too, 24KB, from 11/17/2024, but it's
    address is:
    C:\Windows\servicing\LCU\Package_for_RollupFix~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~19041.5371.1.9\amd64_microsoft-windows-devicecensus_31bf3856ad364e35_10.0.19041.5198_none_2445ede1afad7996\f
    - that folder was a deploymenent location for a monthly update.
    - the functionality of DeviceCensus.exe in Windows does not use that
    location.
    - the folder only indicates that the folder was created sometime in the
    past for updating Windows.
    - Windows 10 22H2 or earlier(19041 is Win10 20H2 base, though 19041 files
    are still in use on later Win10 versions).
    e.g Win10 22H2's DeviceCensus.exe is still 19041 version, and its
    DeviceCensus.exe should be 19041.5438 at the minimum 22H2 updated through
    Feb 2025(019041.5487)
    and its file date should be the date that the last LCU(monthly
    update) was installed(i.e. if you installed February's LCU today on March
    7, then the DeviceCensus.exe file Creatrion and Modified Date should be
    March 7 2025. The exe file's Digital Signature should have a date in Jan.
    or Feb 2025(when Win10 has been updated with the latest(Feb) LCU.> I
    wonder what the difference in locations means.
    I haven't checked if it runs or not.
    In your case, it does not mean much for running an exe. That location is >unused for the installed Windows version.
    No reason to check.

    So I'm glad I didn't take time to do it.

    - If you wish to run DeviceCensus.exe find the exe in
    C:\Windows\System32 and double click to run it...but doing so won't

    There is no copy there.

    provide much information.

    Thanks to you and Paul for interesting info.

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  • From The Car@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 8 10:39:14 2025
    On 3/7/25 05:31, Newyana2 wrote:
    Linux OS support? I think it's typically 6-18 months.

    Interminably supported rolling releases are typical too.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to The Car on Sat Mar 8 14:36:08 2025
    On Sat, 3/8/2025 1:39 PM, The Car wrote:
    On 3/7/25 05:31, Newyana2 wrote:
    Linux OS support? I think it's typically 6-18 months.

    Interminably supported rolling releases are typical too.

    There is a web page for that.

    https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle

    Not every distro is commercial, or has "resources".

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Linux_Distribution_Timeline.svg

    Paul

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