I have a Win10 box that I use only occasionally. Today I booted it and
went straight into Task Manager. Lo and behold!, a program was hogging
CPU, bouncing up to 90+% usage of 16GB. It went on for some time.
Windows Telemetry.

I've switched that off now.
Two options;
1. Service entry,Connected User Experiences and Telemetry
2. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\DataCollection

I found that switching off just one left the other on. So I switched
both off.

Ed

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Ed Cryer wrote:

I have a Win10 box that I use only occasionally. Today I booted it and
went straight into Task Manager. Lo and behold!, a program was hogging
CPU, bouncing up to 90+% usage of 16GB. It went on for some time.
Windows Telemetry.

I've switched that off now.
Two options;
1. Service entry,Connected User Experiences and Telemetry
2. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\DataCollection

I found that switching off just one left the other on. So I switched
both off.

That sounds to me like a malware infection, Ed. Pretty sure it's not
usual for M$'s telemetry to use that much of your RAM.

--
John C.

Take back Microsoft from India.

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John C. wrote:

Ed Cryer wrote:

I have a Win10 box that I use only occasionally. Today I booted it and
went straight into Task Manager. Lo and behold!, a program was hogging
CPU, bouncing up to 90+% usage of 16GB. It went on for some time.
Windows Telemetry.

I've switched that off now.
Two options;
1. Service entry,Connected User Experiences and Telemetry
2.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\DataCollection

I found that switching off just one left the other on. So I switched
both off.

That sounds to me like a malware infection, Ed. Pretty sure it's not
usual for M$'s telemetry to use that much of your RAM.

It's quite common. Google "Telemetry hogging".

Ed

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Ed Cryer wrote:

John C. wrote:

Ed Cryer wrote:

I have a Win10 box that I use only occasionally. Today I booted it and
went straight into Task Manager. Lo and behold!, a program was hogging
CPU, bouncing up to 90+% usage of 16GB. It went on for some time.
Windows Telemetry.

I've switched that off now.
Two options;
1. Service entry,Connected User Experiences and Telemetry

Yep, that was one of the first things I did when I reinstalled W10 and
before I went online.

2.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\DataCollection

I found that switching off just one left the other on. So I switched
both off.

That sounds to me like a malware infection, Ed. Pretty sure it's not
usual for M$'s telemetry to use that much of your RAM.

It's quite common. Google "Telemetry hogging".

I suppose you're right. I've heard about such things. Since I've only
had Chrome installed briefly on another computer, I never ran into it.

Of course, there are those who consider W10 itself to be malware. I'm
one of them.

--
John C.

I filter out all crossposts and garbage from trolls.

Take back Microsoft from India

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John C. wrote:

Ed Cryer wrote:

John C. wrote:

Ed Cryer wrote:

I have a Win10 box that I use only occasionally. Today I booted it and >>>> went straight into Task Manager. Lo and behold!, a program was hogging >>>> CPU, bouncing up to 90+% usage of 16GB. It went on for some time.
Windows Telemetry.

I've switched that off now.
Two options;
1. Service entry,Connected User Experiences and Telemetry

Yep, that was one of the first things I did when I reinstalled W10 and
before I went online.

2.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\DataCollection

I found that switching off just one left the other on. So I switched
both off.

That sounds to me like a malware infection, Ed. Pretty sure it's not
usual for M$'s telemetry to use that much of your RAM.

It's quite common. Google "Telemetry hogging".

I suppose you're right. I've heard about such things. Since I've only
had Chrome installed briefly on another computer, I never ran into it.

Of course, there are those who consider W10 itself to be malware. I'm
one of them.

I'm sure I turned off telemetry some years ago. It must be, then, that
OS updates have turned it back on. Probably not as flagrantly and
consistently as Edge reinstallation, but quietly done.

Ed

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On 3/12/2025 7:50 AM, John C. wrote:

"To block Microsoft EDGE, use the 'Block' button. To unblock it, click
the 'Unblock' button. Once you’ve blocked the browser, it won’t load
even if you –or an app– tries to launch it. We recommend that you change
the default browser first if you have no other browser installed (use
default browser link.) Edge icon on the GUI will show the status of
Microsoft Edge. If it's grayed out, Edge is blocked."

Remove Edge: https://github.com/ShadowWhisperer/Remove-MS-Edge

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Ed Cryer wrote:

John C. wrote:

Ed Cryer wrote:

John C. wrote:

Ed Cryer wrote:

I have a Win10 box that I use only occasionally. Today I booted it and >>>>> went straight into Task Manager. Lo and behold!, a program was hogging >>>>> CPU, bouncing up to 90+% usage of 16GB. It went on for some time.
Windows Telemetry.

I've switched that off now.
Two options;
1. Service entry,Connected User Experiences and Telemetry

Yep, that was one of the first things I did when I reinstalled W10 and
before I went online.

2.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\DataCollection

I found that switching off just one left the other on. So I switched >>>>> both off.

That sounds to me like a malware infection, Ed. Pretty sure it's not
usual for M$'s telemetry to use that much of your RAM.

It's quite common. Google "Telemetry hogging".

I suppose you're right. I've heard about such things. Since I've only
had Chrome installed briefly on another computer, I never ran into it.

Of course, there are those who consider W10 itself to be malware. I'm
one of them.

I'm sure I turned off telemetry some years ago. It must be, then, that
OS updates have turned it back on. Probably not as flagrantly and consistently as Edge reinstallation, but quietly done.

Ed, have you tried Edge Blocker?

https://www.sordum.org/9312/edge-blocker-v2-0/

"To block Microsoft EDGE, use the 'Block' button. To unblock it, click
the 'Unblock' button. Once you’ve blocked the browser, it won’t load
even if you –or an app– tries to launch it. We recommend that you change the default browser first if you have no other browser installed (use
default browser link.) Edge icon on the GUI will show the status of
Microsoft Edge. If it's grayed out, Edge is blocked."

sordum.org seems to be a Turkish group of developers who started out in
Berlin from what I can deduce.

VirusTotal for EdgeBlock_x64.exe (0 out of 72):

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/479dce1386060247e8125351d69aaaa5f004a9e8584dbd4fb702bfd4b1bc2a70

and for EdgeBlock.exe (1 -probably a false positive- out of 73):

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/7438acb79719b5d78398c0d30be333b7a41c1026d8828704824368c373ae362f

I use Edge Blocker 2.0 and so far, it works as they advertise without
any bad side effects.

--
John C.

I filter out all crossposts and garbage from trolls.

Take back Microsoft from India

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On 3/12/2025 11:57 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:

MS need Edge welded into Windows. There's a lot built around it. Even if something works for a while, MS will soon be setting sanctions against
it; and probably handing out headaches to those who get clobbered.

That makes sense if you think you might eventually want
Edge. The remover I used gives you an option to keep
WebView2, which is basically the Edge browser window for
use in software. I remove that, because I don't expect to
ever want it. But I also block all updates, so MS won't be
messing with my system.

MS do say you can't use Copilot without Edge. Which sounds
to me a bit like saying that I can't have syphyllis unless I
also take gonorhea, but to each their own.

In my admittedly limited experience I've found that tweaking
tends to cause problems with Windows Update on 10/11. So
it's probably best to go with one extreme or the other: Either
lock out MS and clean up the mess, or let them control your
system and don't fool around with tweaking. When I first installed
Win10 I couldn't even get it to activate. I had to start all over
again and activate before tweaking.

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Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:

John C. wrote:

[...]

I use Edge Blocker 2.0 and so far, it works as they advertise without
any bad side effects.

Thanks for the suggestion, John, but experience has taught me to decline. This goes for Newyana's recommendation, as well.

MS need Edge welded into Windows. There's a lot built around it. Even if something works for a while, MS will soon be setting sanctions against
it; and probably handing out headaches to those who get clobbered.

Exactly. And what's to worry about? When not in use, but with default settings such as 'Start-up boost, Edge uses 64MB and no CPU/Disk/Network. Nothing to worry about on a somewhat decent machine.

I know some people are highly addicted to add-ons and OS-reform-scripts
and other such paraphernalia, but I beware of them. They're future trouble. Just consider how MS has turned on Telemetry again without telling me.

Reading the 'Description:' [1] of the 'Connected User Experiences and Telemetry' Service, the *Telemetry* part does exactly what is set in the 'Diagnostics & feedback' part of Settings, i.e. 'Sending required data'.

What the 'Connected User Experiences' part of the service does, is unclear/vague to me. AFAICT, it only applies to particular apps, not to
Windows as a whole.

As said before, you can enable 'View diagnostic data' to see what
telemetry is collected.

All-in-all, I think it's much ado about nothing.

[1]
"The Connected User Experiences and Telemetry service enables features
that support in-application and connected user experiences.
Additionally, this service manages the event driven collection and
transmission of diagnostic and usage information (used to improve the
experience and quality of the Windows Platform) when the diagnostics
and usage privacy option settings are enabled under Feedback and
Diagnostics."

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