Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions
HFS is a free single-executable very small HTML server for Windows.
HFS does not need a login account or the Internet to transfer files.
HFS uses only the local Wi-Fi (LAN) network.
HFS does not require creating any online accounts or logins.
HFS leverages any browser on iOS to share files with iOS devices.
Therefore HFS bypasses Apple's arbitrary file-transfer restrictions.
There is no need for iTunes, iCloud, Apple Mobile Devices, etc.
Set up a Windows HFS server so any iOS browser can get files from a PC.
1. Download the HFS file server installer.
<https://sourceforge.net/projects/hfs/>
Name: hfs2.3m.zip
Size: 947592 bytes (925 KiB)
SHA256: 5B99A22785D90BE6CB39C58E59C89514CC394152AD0BC83FDB5F56A7AD08E05E 2. When extracted, there is only a single file in the archive:
Name: hfs.exe
Size: 2171904 bytes (2121 KiB)
SHA256: E678899D7EA9702184167B56655F91A69F8A0BDC9DF65612762252C053C2CD7C 3. Doubleclick on hfs.exe in the Windows file explorer
I put it here: C:\app\servers\hfs\hfs.exe
4. Look for the "Virtual File System" pane in the HFS GUI
5. Drag and drop your photos into this VFS section.
Clipboard_04-05-2025_01.jpg
Clipboard_04-05-2025_02.jpg
6. HFS shows the local IP address in the "Address" field at the top
http://192.168.0.2/Clipboard_04-05-2025_01.jpg
http://192.168.0.2/Clipboard_04-05-2025_02.jpg
7. You'll have to let HFS through the Windows firewall.
First, figure out if your LAN is considered public or private
Win+I > Network & Internet > {Ethernet/Wi-Fi} > Network profile
Win+R > firewall.cpl
Find hfs.exe in "Windows Defender Firewall" > "Allowed apps"
Set either "Private" or "Public" to be checked (allowed)
8. Since iOS has a miserable underscore/dash keyboard, rename the files
(right click on them inside the HFS GUI & rename to pic1.jpg, pic2.jpg) 9. Check the iPad is connected to the same Wi-Fi network as the Windows PC
Find the iPad IP address in Settings > Wi-Fi > (i) > IP Address
Win+R > cmd > C:\> ping 192.168.0.3
10. Open any web browser on the iPad, e.g., Safari
11. Enter those URLs
http://192.168.0.2/pic1.jpg
http://192.168.0.2/pic2.jpg
12. Then use the browser GUI to "Save to Files" or "Save Image"
Now other Apple iOS apps can access those images from your DCIM folder,
(or from wherever the browser put them, e.g., the Downloads folder).
As always, please improve so that billions of people benefit from
every post you make, which is why we all should learn from each other.
Marion wrote:
Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions >>
HFS is a free single-executable very small HTML server for Windows.
HFS does not need a login account or the Internet to transfer files.
HFS uses only the local Wi-Fi (LAN) network.
HFS does not require creating any online accounts or logins.
HFS leverages any browser on iOS to share files with iOS devices.
Therefore HFS bypasses Apple's arbitrary file-transfer restrictions.
There is no need for iTunes, iCloud, Apple Mobile Devices, etc.
Set up a Windows HFS server so any iOS browser can get files from a PC.
1. Download the HFS file server installer.
<https://sourceforge.net/projects/hfs/>
Name: hfs2.3m.zip
Size: 947592 bytes (925 KiB)
SHA256: 5B99A22785D90BE6CB39C58E59C89514CC394152AD0BC83FDB5F56A7AD08E05E >> 2. When extracted, there is only a single file in the archive:
Name: hfs.exe
Size: 2171904 bytes (2121 KiB)
SHA256: E678899D7EA9702184167B56655F91A69F8A0BDC9DF65612762252C053C2CD7C >> 3. Doubleclick on hfs.exe in the Windows file explorer
I put it here: C:\app\servers\hfs\hfs.exe
4. Look for the "Virtual File System" pane in the HFS GUI
5. Drag and drop your photos into this VFS section.
Clipboard_04-05-2025_01.jpg
Clipboard_04-05-2025_02.jpg
6. HFS shows the local IP address in the "Address" field at the top
http://192.168.0.2/Clipboard_04-05-2025_01.jpg
http://192.168.0.2/Clipboard_04-05-2025_02.jpg
7. You'll have to let HFS through the Windows firewall.
First, figure out if your LAN is considered public or private
Win+I > Network & Internet > {Ethernet/Wi-Fi} > Network profile
Win+R > firewall.cpl
Find hfs.exe in "Windows Defender Firewall" > "Allowed apps"
Set either "Private" or "Public" to be checked (allowed)
8. Since iOS has a miserable underscore/dash keyboard, rename the files
(right click on them inside the HFS GUI & rename to pic1.jpg, pic2.jpg) >> 9. Check the iPad is connected to the same Wi-Fi network as the Windows PC >> Find the iPad IP address in Settings > Wi-Fi > (i) > IP Address
Win+R > cmd > C:\> ping 192.168.0.3
10. Open any web browser on the iPad, e.g., Safari
11. Enter those URLs
http://192.168.0.2/pic1.jpg
http://192.168.0.2/pic2.jpg
12. Then use the browser GUI to "Save to Files" or "Save Image"
Now other Apple iOS apps can access those images from your DCIM folder,
(or from wherever the browser put them, e.g., the Downloads folder).
As always, please improve so that billions of people benefit from
every post you make, which is why we all should learn from each other.
Such a trip around the houses, and then 12 steps.
Why not this?
1. Use iTunes.
Such a trip around the houses, and then 12 steps.
Why not this?
1. Use iTunes.
Use the Files app on iPhones/iPads. Connect to Server, enter the IP address of the Windows box, login as Guest or enter your normal username/password for Windows. Select the drive to connect, copy/paste whatever you want in both directions.
Done.
All using native software on both ends. Nothing to install or setup.
On Sun, 06 Apr 2025 21:14:11 +0000, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote
Use the Files app on iPhones/iPads. Connect to Server, enter the IP address >> of the Windows box, login as Guest or enter your normal username/password for
Windows. Select the drive to connect, copy/paste whatever you want in both >> directions.
Done.
All using native software on both ends. Nothing to install or setup.
What server do you connect to using native software on both sides?
Windows doesn't have a native Apple Files server on it, does it?
If Windows has a native Apple Files server, what's the path to it?
Be aware that it's way more than a dozen steps to get what you'll need. Nothing using Apple products with Windows will ever be only one step.
Clearly you've never heard of the astoundingly huge amount of completely untested bloatware abominations which infect the Apple iTunes abomination.
Be aware that it's way more than a dozen steps to get what you'll need.
Nothing using Apple products with Windows will ever be only one step.
The Files app on iPhone/iPad works fine for this. You connect to Windows shared drives/folders/whatever. Copy and paste whatever you need.
Am I the only person on the planet who knows this?
You connect to a shared Windows drive. Same way you connect one Windows computer to another Windows computer.
Files are files. You don't need a "native Apple Files server" (whatever that is). You do need to have the C drive (or whatever drive) shared in Windows. I have all my drives in all my computers here shared, so I can easily move files from Mac to Windows or Windows to iPad or whatever I need to do.
You just connect to the shared C drive (or whatever drive) in the Files app.
Copy the file(s) and paste into the Files app under "On my iPad/iPhone".
This is networking 101, folks. You are basically doing "Map Network Drive" the same way you do it in Windows, except that there is no drive letter on the
iPad. It is just a "Network Server".
On Sun, 06 Apr 2025 21:14:11 +0000, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote
Use the Files app on iPhones/iPads. Connect to Server, enter the IP
address of the Windows box, login as Guest or enter your normal
username/password for Windows. Select the drive to connect,
copy/paste whatever you want in both directions.
Done.
All using native software on both ends. Nothing to install or
setup.
What server do you connect to using native software on both sides?
Windows doesn't have a native Apple Files server on it, does it?
If Windows has a native Apple Files server, what's the path to it?
On 4/6/2025 8:30 PM, Marion wrote:
Clearly you've never heard of the astoundingly huge amount of
completely untested bloatware abominations which infect the Apple
iTunes abomination.
Apple stopped testing iTunes
On 2025-04-06, Oliver <ollie@invalid.net> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Apr 2025 21:14:11 +0000, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote
Use the Files app on iPhones/iPads. Connect to Server, enter the IP
address of the Windows box, login as Guest or enter your normal
username/password for Windows. Select the drive to connect,
copy/paste whatever you want in both directions.
Done.
All using native software on both ends. Nothing to install or
setup.
What server do you connect to using native software on both sides?
Windows doesn't have a native Apple Files server on it, does it?
If Windows has a native Apple Files server, what's the path to it?
Are you guys really so ignorant about Apple products you don't know they
can connect to shared volumes over standard SMB connections? ...cuz
that's the vibe you're giving off here. 🤣
W Sun, 06 Apr 2025 22:45:07 +0000, Tyrone napisal:
Be aware that it's way more than a dozen steps to get what you'll need.
Nothing using Apple products with Windows will ever be only one step.
The Files app on iPhone/iPad works fine for this. You connect to Windows
shared drives/folders/whatever. Copy and paste whatever you need.
Am I the only person on the planet who knows this?
What Tyrone is talking about are the steps to set up SMB (File Sharing) on Windows to then use native SMB file sharing to get the files over to iOS.
First you need to know your Windows PC ip address. 192.168.1.whatever.
Then you need to enable File Sharing on Windows by going to the
Control Panel > Network and Sharing Center > Change advanced sharing
settings > Turn on File and Printer Sharing > then right-click the folder
you want to share and select Properties > Sharing > Advanced Sharing >
Share this folder.
Note the PC name or IP address (e.g., 192.168.1.whatever) and the shared folder path \\pcname\sharename.
To access the Windows shared folder on iOS, Open the Files app on your
iPhone or iPad. Tap Browse at the bottom, then tap three dots at the top-right and select Connect to Server (for example 192.168.1.whatever).
Enter the network address of the shared folder, for example smb://192.168.1.whatever/shared_folder_name. You will be prompted for a username and password. But most of the time this will fail with the error
of "The operation couldn't be completed. Invalid argument." which is common because the Apple software can't conceive of a person having no password.
The only way around Apple's requirement that every user on Windows has a password is to create an account just so that you can transfer files to iOS (which is absurd but it's how Apple tells Windows users what to do).
Once you've created a dedicated extra Windows account just for the iOS file transfers, your iOS device will be able to see the shared files on your Windows PC. You can then copy files from your PC to the Files app on your iPhone or iPad directly but only if you first copy them into the shared folder.
If you don't want to go through the extra steps to create a specific
account for Apple iOS devices to use, you can just enable the insecure
guest account on Windows, and the Apple Files app is happy to use it.
But then you'll get the error message inside the iOS Files app of "Content Unavailable. The folder contents could not be displayed because you don't have permission to see its contents. Try again."
This method uses SMB to transfer files locally over your Wi-Fi network, completely bypassing the need for USB cables, iTunes, or other apps. It's fast, free, and doesn't require additional software. It also works for a variety of file types (such as images, documents, videos, etc.). But it
means you have to have a guest account or an account with a password to use it. In reality, you're better off using a dedicated SMB client on iOS.
And it's a lot more than just one step.
W Sun, 06 Apr 2025 22:27:25 +0000, Tyrone napisal:
You connect to a shared Windows drive. Same way you connect one Windows
computer to another Windows computer.
Files are files. You don't need a "native Apple Files server" (whatever that >> is). You do need to have the C drive (or whatever drive) shared in Windows. >> I have all my drives in all my computers here shared, so I can easily move >> files from Mac to Windows or Windows to iPad or whatever I need to do.
You just connect to the shared C drive (or whatever drive) in the Files app. >> Copy the file(s) and paste into the Files app under "On my iPad/iPhone".
This is networking 101, folks. You are basically doing "Map Network Drive" >> the same way you do it in Windows, except that there is no drive letter on the
iPad. It is just a "Network Server".
What Tyrone is talking about are the steps to set up SMB (File Sharing) on Windows to then use native SMB file sharing to get the files over to iOS.
First you need to know your Windows PC ip address. 192.168.1.whatever.
Then you need to enable File Sharing on Windows by going to the
Control Panel > Network and Sharing Center > Change advanced sharing
settings > Turn on File and Printer Sharing > then right-click the folder
you want to share and select Properties > Sharing > Advanced Sharing >
Share this folder.
Note the PC name or IP address (e.g., 192.168.1.whatever) and the shared folder path \\pcname\sharename.
To access the Windows shared folder on iOS, Open the Files app on your
iPhone or iPad. Tap Browse at the bottom, then tap three dots at the top-right and select Connect to Server (for example 192.168.1.whatever).
Enter the network address of the shared folder, for example smb://192.168.1.whatever/shared_folder_name. You will be prompted for a username and password. But most of the time this will fail with the error
of "The operation couldn't be completed. Invalid argument." which is common because the Apple software can't conceive of a person having no password.
The only way around Apple's requirement that every user on Windows has a password is to create an account just so that you can transfer files to iOS (which is absurd but it's how Apple tells Windows users what to do).
Once you've created a dedicated extra Windows account just for the iOS file transfers, your iOS device will be able to see the shared files on your Windows PC. You can then copy files from your PC to the Files app on your iPhone or iPad directly but only if you first copy them into the shared folder.
If you don't want to go through the extra steps to create a specific
account for Apple iOS devices to use, you can just enable the insecure
guest account on Windows, and the Apple Files app is happy to use it.
But then you'll get the error message inside the iOS Files app of "Content Unavailable. The folder contents could not be displayed because you don't have permission to see its contents. Try again."
This method uses SMB to transfer files locally over your Wi-Fi network, completely bypassing the need for USB cables, iTunes, or other apps. It's fast, free, and doesn't require additional software. It also works for a variety of file types (such as images, documents, videos, etc.). But it
means you have to have a guest account or an account with a password to use it. In reality, you're better off using a dedicated SMB client on iOS.
And it's a lot more than just one step.
Yes, you can transfer files from an iPhone to a Windows PC using the
**SMB (Server Message Block)** protocol.
And it's a lot more than just one step.
Yeah, its 2 steps. (1) Share the drive in question. (2) Connect to the drive
in the Files app.
Done.
Once the Windows drive is shared, future file transfers are 1 step.
On Apr 6, 2025 at 8:39:11 PM EDT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-06, Oliver <ollie@invalid.net> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Apr 2025 21:14:11 +0000, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote
Use the Files app on iPhones/iPads. Connect to Server, enter the IP
address of the Windows box, login as Guest or enter your normal
username/password for Windows. Select the drive to connect,
copy/paste whatever you want in both directions.
Done.
All using native software on both ends. Nothing to install or
setup.
What server do you connect to using native software on both sides?
Windows doesn't have a native Apple Files server on it, does it?
If Windows has a native Apple Files server, what's the path to it?
Are you guys really so ignorant about Apple products you don't know they
can connect to shared volumes over standard SMB connections? ...cuz
that's the vibe you're giving off here. 🤣
Yes. Trolls are really this stupid. Because the trolls STILL claim "Its impossible to transfer files between iOS and (fill in the blank)".
When in fact, it is just as easy to transfer files between iOS and Windows as it is between Windows and Windows. Share the drive on one, connect to that drive on the other.
Its known as "networking". The trolls should look into that.
On Apr 6, 2025 at 8:39:11 PM EDT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-06, Oliver <ollie@invalid.net> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Apr 2025 21:14:11 +0000, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote
Use the Files app on iPhones/iPads. Connect to Server, enter the IP >>>>> address of the Windows box, login as Guest or enter your normal
username/password for Windows. Select the drive to connect,
copy/paste whatever you want in both directions.
Done.
All using native software on both ends. Nothing to install or
setup.
What server do you connect to using native software on both sides?
Windows doesn't have a native Apple Files server on it, does it?
If Windows has a native Apple Files server, what's the path to it?
Are you guys really so ignorant about Apple products you don't know they >>> can connect to shared volumes over standard SMB connections? ...cuz
that's the vibe you're giving off here. í ¾í´£
Yes. Trolls are really this stupid. Because the trolls STILL claim "Its
impossible to transfer files between iOS and (fill in the blank)".
When in fact, it is just as easy to transfer files between iOS and Windows as
it is between Windows and Windows. Share the drive on one, connect to that >> drive on the other.
Its known as "networking". The trolls should look into that.
I tried to verify this using Google searches, but strangely, the
technique was not promoted in the answers.
I used CoPilot, and ran the question there.
******* CoPilot session *******
Can you transfer files from an iPhone to a Windows PC by using smb:// file sharing ?
Which iPhone models or iOS revisions would be required for this feature to work ?
Yes, you can transfer files from an iPhone to a Windows PC using the
**SMB (Server Message Block)** protocol. This feature is supported through the **Files app** on iPhones running **iOS 13 or later**. It allows you to connect to SMB file servers, including shared folders on a Windows PC, over the same local network.
To use this feature:
1. Ensure your iPhone and Windows PC are connected to the same network.
2. On your Windows PC, create a shared folder and enable SMB sharing.
3. On your iPhone, open the Files app, tap "Connect to Server," and
enter the server address in the format `smb://<IP address>`.
This functionality is available on all iPhone models that support
iOS 13 or newer. If you're using an older iOS version, this feature won't be accessible.
Let me know if you'd like a step-by-step guide!
******* end CoPilot session *******
An available option since roughly September 2019.
On 4/7/2025 8:16 AM, Paul wrote:
Yes, you can transfer files from an iPhone to a Windows PC using the
**SMB (Server Message Block)** protocol.
Anyone can pull off an iPhone/iOS but the hard part is going the other way.
Pushing the file from the PC to iOS is what this thread seems to be about based on the subject, which is to PUSH from the PC to the iPhone/iPad.
And you have to be able to PUSH from the PC to iOS all file types & sizes.
You'd need an SMB server on the iOS device & the SMB client on Windows.
iTunes runs fine in Windows. I've got it installed. And it works fine
for this purpose.
"LocalSend: Open-source, cross-platform file sharing to nearby devices"
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39662721
You would "expect" a DCIM folder to be bidirectional, by tradition.
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 02:16:41 -0400, Paul wrote:
On Apr 6, 2025 at 8:39:11 PM EDT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-06, Oliver <ollie@invalid.net> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Apr 2025 21:14:11 +0000, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote
Use the Files app on iPhones/iPads. Connect to Server, enter the IP >>>>>> address of the Windows box, login as Guest or enter your normal
username/password for Windows. Select the drive to connect,
copy/paste whatever you want in both directions.
Done.
All using native software on both ends.  Nothing to install or
setup.
What server do you connect to using native software on both sides?
Windows doesn't have a native Apple Files server on it, does it?
If Windows has a native Apple Files server, what's the path to it?
Are you guys really so ignorant about Apple products you don't know they >>>> can connect to shared volumes over standard SMB connections? ...cuz
that's the vibe you're giving off here. ������
Yes. Trolls are really this stupid. Because the trolls STILL claim "Its >>> impossible to transfer files between iOS and (fill in the blank)".
When in fact, it is just as easy to transfer files between iOS and Windows as
it is between Windows and Windows. Share the drive on one, connect to that >>> drive on the other.
Its known as "networking". The trolls should look into that.
I tried to verify this using Google searches, but strangely, the
technique was not promoted in the answers.
I used CoPilot, and ran the question there.
******* CoPilot session *******
Can you transfer files from an iPhone to a Windows PC by using smb:// file sharing ?
Which iPhone models or iOS revisions would be required for this feature to work ?
Yes, you can transfer files from an iPhone to a Windows PC using the
**SMB (Server Message Block)** protocol. This feature is supported through >> the **Files app** on iPhones running **iOS 13 or later**. It allows you to >> connect to SMB file servers, including shared folders on a Windows PC, over >> the same local network.
To use this feature:
1. Ensure your iPhone and Windows PC are connected to the same network.
2. On your Windows PC, create a shared folder and enable SMB sharing.
3. On your iPhone, open the Files app, tap "Connect to Server," and
  enter the server address in the format `smb://<IP address>`.
This functionality is available on all iPhone models that support
iOS 13 or newer. If you're using an older iOS version, this feature won't be accessible.
Let me know if you'd like a step-by-step guide!
******* end CoPilot session *******
An available option since roughly September 2019.
Wrong direction.
Jump into the water from a high bridge. Easy right?
You could say that's an available option since roughly September 2019.
Now comes the hard part.
Jump back up to the bridge from the water.
Not so easy, right?
On Apr 6, 2025 at 6:39:49 PM EDT, "Larry Wolff" <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> wrote:
Be aware that it's way more than a dozen steps to get what you'll need.
Nothing using Apple products with Windows will ever be only one step.
The Files app on iPhone/iPad works fine for this. You connect to Windows shared drives/folders/whatever. Copy and paste whatever you need.
Am I the only person on the planet who knows this?
I'm going to test it tomorrow & report back how it works!
Thanks for the helpful suggestion to solve the iOS problems.
Yeah, its 2 steps. (1) Share the drive in question. (2) Connect to the drive
in the Files app.
Done.
Once the Windows drive is shared, future file transfers are 1 step.
On 06/04/2025 23:45, Tyrone wrote:
On Apr 6, 2025 at 6:39:49?PM EDT, "Larry Wolff" <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> wrote:
Be aware that it's way more than a dozen steps to get what you'll need.
Nothing using Apple products with Windows will ever be only one step.
The Files app on iPhone/iPad works fine for this. You connect to Windows shared drives/folders/whatever. Copy and paste whatever you need.
Am I the only person on the planet who knows this?
Requires a Windows Microsoft account.
Won't work with a local account with no password.
As a Microsoft Account is required, I thought about suggesting
the Windows 'Phone Link' app. But for the iPhone it apparently can not show/copy photos, which it can for an Android phone.
'Easier to sync your PC and phone' <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/sync-across-your-devices>
Not sure if there is an IOS version, or if you can access the files you need on IOS.IOS meaning Iphone.
Earlier, I wrote:Not sure if this has be mentioned. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alphainventor.filemanager File Manager. It has the ability to become an ftp server.
[...]
As a Microsoft Account is required, I thought about suggesting
the Windows 'Phone Link' app. But for the iPhone it apparently can not
show/copy photos, which it can for an Android phone.
'Easier to sync your PC and phone'
<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/sync-across-your-devices>
However, this article says that one *can* "transfer files from your PC
to your iPhone" with the Microsoft Phone Link app:
'Transfer Files from PC to iPhone Without iTunes' <https://www.airdroid.com/file-transfer/transfer-files-from-pc-to-iphone-without-itunes/>
"Microsoft Phone Link
...
Step 5: Now you can view the notifications and also transfer files from
your PC to your iPhone."
And - as I suggested in my earlier response - it also says you can use
an USB cable "to transfer files from PC to iPhone", but the instructions
are a bit vague/confusing.
[...]
Let's take the push, since we're trying to push an iOS file to the Windows
PC using the iOS Files program using smb://<Computer Name>/<Share Name>
The problem badgolferman is likely unaware of when he claims "it works for me", is that he very likely has a password on his user account on the PC.
I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work.
"Microsoft Phone Link
...
Step 5: Now you can view the notifications and also transfer files
from your PC to your iPhone."
So I gave this a try by setting up the app on my phone and connecting
it by Bluetooth to the laptop. I've got all the permissions set up but
it's not working for me. It also has a convoluted way of working
through the actions to share the files.
In this case I must agree with Jolly Roger, Tyrone and whoever else
advocates that the Files app works better. All I had to do was enter
the IP address for the laptop in the server section, use my Microsoft
account to login from the iPhone to the laptop, and Share a folder on
my laptop. I can easily move files between both devices.
Considering the iOS method works and it's native to the phone, I will
stick with that.
Not sure if this has be mentioned. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alphainventor.filemanager File Manager. It has the ability to become an ftp server.
I use it a lot to move files to my linux or windows pc.
Not sure if there is an IOS version, or if you can access the files you need on IOS.
Question to the OP ('Marion'): Have you tried a PTP (Picture Transfer Protocol) connection to the DCIM-equivalent of the iPhone? AFAIK, you
can get photos from an iPhone that way. Unless their PTP implementation
is 'unusual', you probably can also put photos on an iPhone that way.
It is true that I have a Microsoft account on my PC and indeed had to enter that during setup of the handshaking process. I can also push/pull in
either direction. Other than you though, I do not know anyone else who doesn't have a Microsoft account so the Files method should work for them.
At least now we have several methods of accomplishing the same task and people have a choice.
It is true that I have a Microsoft account on my PC and indeed had to enter >that during setup of the handshaking process. I can also push/pull in
either direction. Other than you though, I do not know anyone else who >doesn’t have a Microsoft account so the Files method should work for them.
At least now we have several methods of accomplishing the same task and >people have a choice.
I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from iOS to the PC).
On 7 Apr 2025 14:46:08 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote :
[...]Question to the OP ('Marion'): Have you tried a PTP (Picture Transfer Protocol) connection to the DCIM-equivalent of the iPhone? AFAIK, you
can get photos from an iPhone that way. Unless their PTP implementation
is 'unusual', you probably can also put photos on an iPhone that way.
As for iOS, the problem is simply that Apple makes it very easy to get
files off the iPad onto the PC, but it's hard to put files onto the iPad.
Specifically, if you connect the iOS device to the Windows 10 PC via USB &
if the necessary obligatory Apple drivers are already installed on the PC, then the PC has no problem recognizing the iPad just as it sees an Android.
The *difference* though is that with Android USB, you can read & write to
the DCIM directory in most situations (excluding misconfigured Androids).
However, iOS doesn't work that way with USB file transfers. It's different. With iOS, you can't *write* to the DCIM directory over a USB connection.
So the problem *always* was getting the file from the Windows PC, to iOS.
See sig for the solution that I used to use to write to the iOS filesystem. --
If you dual boot the PC to Ubuntu, you actually have r/w access to all 3
file systems simultaneously, WIndows, Linux & iOS, via the iFuse mechanism.
That's probably true. But I set up my laptop with a Microsoft account so that's what I had to use.
Whoever wants to try it don't forget to Share the folder on the PC and add the user with full rights to the folder.
Well, it looks like I owe everyone an apology. It seems I can only
push/pull from the iPhone side and not from the PC side. I thought I
had done it from the PC side but it must have been when I was using the
Phone Link app. There doesn't seem to be a mechanism showing me the
phone which I can move the files to in File Explorer. If someone else
knows of one please inform me.
So it seems the iOS method is somewhat limited and the other methods discussed are more capable. Despite that I think if I ever do need to
move files it will still be with the iOS Files app rather than
installing a "server" on my phone.
I was also wrong to agree with Jolly Roger and should have known
better...
On Sun, 6 Apr 2025 15:09:26 +0100, Ed Cryer wrote :
1. This is a lie. You know that Apple tests its software.Such a trip around the houses, and then 12 steps.
Red herring. Well-known Apple trolls like Ed Cryer are so desperate to
defend Apple's clusterfuck solutions that they claim *this* is 12 steps!
1. *Use HFS.*
Why not this?
I wonder if you realize that Apple has never tested iTunes which is why
there are more zero-day holes in iTunes than almost any other software.
On Sun, 06 Apr 2025 21:14:11 +0000, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote
Use the Files app on iPhones/iPads. Connect to Server, enter the IP
address
of the Windows box, login as Guest or enter your normal username/
password for
Windows. Select the drive to connect, copy/paste whatever you want in
both
directions.
Done.
All using native software on both ends.  Nothing to install or setup.
What server do you connect to using native software on both sides?
Windows doesn't have a native Apple Files server on it, does it?
If Windows has a native Apple Files server, what's the path to it?
Tyrone wrote to us on Mon, 07 Apr 2025 03:43:21 +0000:
And it's a lot more than just one step.
Yeah, its 2 steps. (1) Share the drive in question. (2) Connect to
the drive
in the Files app.
Done.
Once the Windows drive is shared, future file transfers are 1 step.
It's obvious to everyone that you've never done what you claim above.
Ignoring your suggested absurdity of sharing an entire drive for all to
see, even iTunes is one step when you gloss over the other fifty steps.
1. Use iTunes
So is the suggested solution of one step, if you gloss over everything.
1. Use HFS
So is your suggested solution, if you gloss arcane SMB sharing setup.
1. Use SMB
That you can't do it is obvious by the fact you can't show screenshots.
Show everyone, with screenshots, that you can push PC files to iOS.
In two steps.
We'll wait for you to prove, with screenshots, that you have done it.
Because nobody else has.
On 4/7/2025 8:16 AM, Paul wrote:
Yes, you can transfer files from an iPhone to a Windows PC using the
**SMB (Server Message Block)** protocol.
Anyone can pull off an iPhone/iOS but the hard part is going the other way.
Pushing the file from the PC to iOS is what this thread seems to be about based on the subject, which is to PUSH from the PC to the iPhone/iPad.
And you have to be able to PUSH from the PC to iOS all file types & sizes.
You'd need an SMB server on the iOS device & the SMB client on Windows.
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 02:16:41 -0400, Paul wrote:
On Apr 6, 2025 at 8:39:11 PM EDT, "Jolly Roger"
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-06, Oliver <ollie@invalid.net> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Apr 2025 21:14:11 +0000, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote
Use the Files app on iPhones/iPads. Connect to Server, enter the IP >>>>>> address of the Windows box, login as Guest or enter your normal
username/password for Windows. Select the drive to connect,
copy/paste whatever you want in both directions.
Done.
All using native software on both ends.  Nothing to install or
setup.
What server do you connect to using native software on both sides?
Windows doesn't have a native Apple Files server on it, does it?
If Windows has a native Apple Files server, what's the path to it?
Are you guys really so ignorant about Apple products you don't know
they
can connect to shared volumes over standard SMB connections? ...cuz
that's the vibe you're giving off here. ������
Yes. Trolls are really this stupid. Because the trolls STILL claim "Its >>> impossible to transfer files between iOS and (fill in the blank)".
When in fact, it is just as easy to transfer files between iOS and
Windows as
it is between Windows and Windows. Share the drive on one, connect to
that
drive on the other.
Its known as "networking". The trolls should look into that.
I tried to verify this using Google searches, but strangely, the
technique was not promoted in the answers.
I used CoPilot, and ran the question there.
******* CoPilot session *******
Can you transfer files from an iPhone to a Windows PC by using smb://
file sharing ?
Which iPhone models or iOS revisions would be required for this
feature to work ?
Yes, you can transfer files from an iPhone to a Windows PC using the
**SMB (Server Message Block)** protocol. This feature is supported
through
the **Files app** on iPhones running **iOS 13 or later**. It allows
you to
connect to SMB file servers, including shared folders on a Windows PC,
over
the same local network.
To use this feature:
1. Ensure your iPhone and Windows PC are connected to the same network.
2. On your Windows PC, create a shared folder and enable SMB sharing.
3. On your iPhone, open the Files app, tap "Connect to Server," and
  enter the server address in the format `smb://<IP address>`.
This functionality is available on all iPhone models that support
iOS 13 or newer. If you're using an older iOS version, this feature
won't be accessible.
Let me know if you'd like a step-by-step guide!
******* end CoPilot session *******
An available option since roughly September 2019.
Wrong direction.
Jump into the water from a high bridge. Easy right?
You could say that's an available option since roughly September 2019.
Now comes the hard part.
Jump back up to the bridge from the water.
Not so easy, right?
On Mon, 07 Apr 2025 03:43:44 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
Yeah, its 2 steps. (1) Share the drive in question. (2) Connect to the drive
in the Files app.
Done.
Once the Windows drive is shared, future file transfers are 1 step.
In nospam's argument, Files is the SMB client. Windows is the SMB server.
The main problem with SMB is that it's an old klunky kludgy protocol.
SMB has all sorts of issues, some of which is that you have to deal with sharing and that there are insecurities involved and that you must have a password on your accounts and you have to set up the Files app as a client and that it has to be added to the other platforms (e.g., Samba on Linux).
On Android, you can't even install an SMB server because, without rooting, you're not allowed to use ports below 1024, so SMB servers are impossible.
On Linux, it's easier since Samba works nicely, but still, you have to add
it and configure it and maintain it (not that it's hard to maintain Samba).
I don't know if the mac still needs the idiotic Columbia Appletalk Protocol to work with SMB (probably not now, since the mac is now Linux based), but then you have to deal with the Apple data fork & resource fork craziness.
In other words, the problem with SMB is that it's a cumbersome protocol
when HTTPS is a much better protocol in terms of using it on all platforms.
One advantage of HTTPS is that each device on each platform can instantly assume the role of a server when sending files & folders, and they switch instantly to assume the role of a client when receiving files & folders.
Here's the simplified process:
Step 1. Install LocalSend on all platforms.
Step 2. Send files & folders bidirectionally between all platforms.
What could be better'n that?
*Tutorial: How to send files between any OS over the LAN using LocalSend*
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=86116&group=alt.comp.os.windows-10#86116>
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wasbit <wasbit@removehotmail.com> wrote:
On 06/04/2025 23:45, Tyrone wrote:
On Apr 6, 2025 at 6:39:49?PM EDT, "Larry Wolff" <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> >>> wrote:
Be aware that it's way more than a dozen steps to get what you'll need. >>>> Nothing using Apple products with Windows will ever be only one step.
The Files app on iPhone/iPad works fine for this. You connect to Windows >>> shared drives/folders/whatever. Copy and paste whatever you need.
Am I the only person on the planet who knows this?
Requires a Windows Microsoft account.
Won't work with a local account with no password.
As a Microsoft Account is required, I thought about suggesting
the Windows 'Phone Link' app. But for the iPhone it apparently can not show/copy photos, which it can for an Android phone.
[Newsgroups restored. Don't remove newsgroups, but if you do, say so.]A Microsoft Account is not required.
wasbit <wasbit@removehotmail.com> wrote:
On 06/04/2025 23:45, Tyrone wrote:
On Apr 6, 2025 at 6:39:49?PM EDT, "Larry Wolff" <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> >>> wrote:
Be aware that it's way more than a dozen steps to get what you'll need. >>>> Nothing using Apple products with Windows will ever be only one step.
The Files app on iPhone/iPad works fine for this. You connect to Windows >>> shared drives/folders/whatever. Copy and paste whatever you need.
Am I the only person on the planet who knows this?
Requires a Windows Microsoft account.
Won't work with a local account with no password.
As a Microsoft Account is required, I thought about suggesting
the Windows 'Phone Link' app. But for the iPhone it apparently can not show/copy photos, which it can for an Android phone.
On 06/04/2025 23:45, Tyrone wrote:
On Apr 6, 2025 at 6:39:49 PM EDT, "Larry Wolff"
<larrywolff@larrywolff.net>
wrote:
Be aware that it's way more than a dozen steps to get what you'll need.
Nothing using Apple products with Windows will ever be only one step.
The Files app on iPhone/iPad works fine for this. You connect to Windows
shared drives/folders/whatever. Copy and paste whatever you need.
Am I the only person on the planet who knows this?
Requires a Windows Microsoft account.
Won't work with a local account with no password.
Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 18:41:05 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :
"Microsoft Phone Link
...
Step 5: Now you can view the notifications and also transfer files
from your PC to your iPhone."
So I gave this a try by setting up the app on my phone and connecting
it by Bluetooth to the laptop. I've got all the permissions set up but
it's not working for me. It also has a convoluted way of working
through the actions to share the files.
In this case I must agree with Jolly Roger, Tyrone and whoever else
advocates that the Files app works better. All I had to do was enter
the IP address for the laptop in the server section, use my Microsoft
account to login from the iPhone to the laptop, and Share a folder on
my laptop. I can easily move files between both devices.
Considering the iOS method works and it's native to the phone, I will
stick with that.
We're all working together (except for the Apple trolls) for the benefit of >> all of us, as it behooves us to be able to seamlessly transfer files
between all the platforms (where Eli the Bearded had an interesting
LocalSend use model between Androids, without the PC being involved).
In that purposefully-helpful light, I know badgolferman to be a normal
helpful person, well educated, sensible and rational (unlike the Apple
trolls), so what badgolferman says he did between his iPhone and his PC, I >> believe it happened as he said it did. Files "can" send files to the PC.
However, I need to make the extremely crucial point that you can jump off
of a moving horse relatively easily but it's much harder to get back on.
Sure, you can jump back on (and just as surely, people do it), but you have >> to have everything aligned to jump back onto that moving horse, right?
The point being the problem was never how to get files from the iOS device >> to the PC, but to push the files from the PC onto the iOS device.
In the case of Paul's excellent suggestion of LocalSend, the push and pull >> work seamlessly together, such that the flow is bidirectionally easy.
A push is no different than a pull with LocalSend; but with the Files
command, a push and a pull are completely different tasks.
Let's take the push, since we're trying to push an iOS file to the Windows >> PC using the iOS Files program using smb://<Computer Name>/<Share Name>
The problem badgolferman is likely unaware of when he claims "it works for >> me", is that he very likely has a password on his user account on the PC.
I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work.
That is, to use "smb://192.168.1.100/SharedDocs", SMB requires you to
create an account on the PC which has a username & a password.
The difference with LocalSend is that it does NOT need that username &
password, which, I think, may be what wasbit might have been alluding to.
It is true that I have a Microsoft account on my PC and indeed had to enter that during setup of the handshaking process. I can also push/pull in
either direction. Other than you though, I do not know anyone else who doesn’t have a Microsoft account so the Files method should work for them. At least now we have several methods of accomplishing the same task and people have a choice.
On Sun, 06 Apr 2025 21:14:11 +0000, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote
Use the Files app on iPhones/iPads. Connect to Server, enter the IP
address
of the Windows box, login as Guest or enter your normal username/
password for
Windows. Select the drive to connect, copy/paste whatever you want in
both
directions.
Done.
All using native software on both ends.  Nothing to install or setup.
What server do you connect to using native software on both sides?
Windows doesn't have a native Apple Files server on it, does it?
If Windows has a native Apple Files server, what's the path to it?
On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 18:32:37 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :
Well, it looks like I owe everyone an apology. It seems I can only
push/pull from the iPhone side and not from the PC side. I thought I
had done it from the PC side but it must have been when I was using the
Phone Link app. There doesn't seem to be a mechanism showing me the
phone which I can move the files to in File Explorer. If someone else
knows of one please inform me.
So it seems the iOS method is somewhat limited and the other methods
discussed are more capable. Despite that I think if I ever do need to
move files it will still be with the iOS Files app rather than
installing a "server" on my phone.
I was also wrong to agree with Jolly Roger and should have known
better...
Thanks for running the bidirectional test. I couldn't even run it (because SMB effectively requires an account on the PC with a password set on it).
badgolferman wrote:
Frank Slootweg wrote:
However, this article says that one can "transfer files from your
PC to your iPhone" with the Microsoft Phone Link app:
'Transfer Files from PC to iPhone Without iTunes'
<https://www.airdroid.com/file-transfer/transfer-files-from-pc-to-iphone-without-itunes/>
"Microsoft Phone Link
...
Step 5: Now you can view the notifications and also transfer files
from your PC to your iPhone."
So I gave this a try by setting up the app on my phone and connecting
it by Bluetooth to the laptop. I've got all the permissions set up
but it's not working for me. It also has a convoluted way of working
through the actions to share the files.
In this case I must agree with Jolly Roger, Tyrone and whoever else
advocates that the Files app works better. All I had to do was enter
the IP address for the laptop in the server section, use my Microsoft
account to login from the iPhone to the laptop, and Share a folder on
my laptop. I can easily move files between both devices.
Considering the iOS method works and it's native to the phone, I will
stick with that.
Well, it looks like I owe everyone an apology. It seems I can only
push/pull from the iPhone side and not from the PC side. I thought I
had done it from the PC side but it must have been when I was using the
Phone Link app. There doesn't seem to be a mechanism showing me the
phone which I can move the files to in File Explorer. If someone else
knows of one please inform me.
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from iOS to the PC).
Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler...
The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
*The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from iOS to the PC). >>Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler...
The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
*The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*
Nope. SMB makes that simple.
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from iOS to
the PC).
Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler...
The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
*The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*
Nope. SMB makes that simple.
On Apr 9, 2025 at 4:36:28 PM EDT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from iOS to the PC).
Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler...
The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
*The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*
Nope. SMB makes that simple.
Of course. I don't know why some people won't accept this fact.
SMB is THE standard for networking. Its how Windows networks with Windows, Linux and Unix. iOS - being Unix - does this just fine. Move ANY files you want, back and forth. Simple, easy and fast.
And you don't have to share an entire drive on Windows. You can share a single
folder which has the file(s) in question. I just share the whole drive because its easier that way. Then - on the iPhone/iPad - you drill down to where the file(s) you want are located. Just like you do in Windows or Linux or Unix.
On Apr 9, 2025 at 6:22:22 PM EDT, "Hank Rogers" <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from iOS to
the PC).
Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler...
The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
*The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*
Nope. SMB makes that simple.
The "files" app doesn't work for me.
Then you are clearly doing something wrong. It is designed to do this.
What issues/errors are you getting?
Tyrone wrote:
On Apr 9, 2025 at 6:22:22 PM EDT, "Hank Rogers" <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from iOS to >>>>>> the PC).
Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler...
The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
*The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*
Nope. SMB makes that simple.
The "files" app doesn't work for me.
Then you are clearly doing something wrong. It is designed to do this.
What issues/errors are you getting?
I have an iphone and an ipad. If I put a file on my network drive, I can
see it and read it on my apple toys/gadgets.
But I cannot change anything or add a file using the "files" app, which
sees it as read only. I can use owlfiles app which works, unlike the
apple "files" app. Apple's "files" app appears broken and has been for
a long time.
YOU tell me what to do to get apple's "files" app to work. I will damn
sure try it.
Alan wrote:
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from iOS to
the PC).
Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler...
The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
*The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*
Nope. SMB makes that simple.
The "files" app doesn't work for me.
Tyrone wrote:
On Apr 9, 2025 at 4:36:28 PM EDT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from iOS to the PC).
Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler...
The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
*The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*
Nope. SMB makes that simple.
Of course. I don't know why some people won't accept this fact.
SMB is THE standard for networking. Its how Windows networks with Windows, >> Linux and Unix. iOS - being Unix - does this just fine. Move ANY files you >> want, back and forth. Simple, easy and fast.
And you don't have to share an entire drive on Windows. You can share a single
folder which has the file(s) in question. I just share the whole drive
because its easier that way. Then - on the iPhone/iPad - you drill down to >> where the file(s) you want are located. Just like you do in Windows or Linux
or Unix.
Yes, but the apple "Files" app will consider everything read only.
On Apr 9, 2025 at 8:47:26 PM EDT, "Hank Rogers" <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Tyrone wrote:
On Apr 9, 2025 at 6:22:22 PM EDT, "Hank Rogers" <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from iOS to >>>>>>> the PC).
Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler...
The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
*The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*
Nope. SMB makes that simple.
The "files" app doesn't work for me.
Then you are clearly doing something wrong. It is designed to do this.
What issues/errors are you getting?
I have an iphone and an ipad. If I put a file on my network drive, I can
see it and read it on my apple toys/gadgets.
But I cannot change anything or add a file using the "files" app, which
sees it as read only. I can use owlfiles app which works, unlike the
apple "files" app. Apple's "files" app appears broken and has been for
a long time.
YOU tell me what to do to get apple's "files" app to work. I will damn
sure try it.
The whole point of the Files app is to see/copy files. Copy the file to your iPad. You can then edit it/do whatever you want with it. The Files app is not
a text editor.
Of course, once edited/saved it is no longer a .txt file. It is now a .pages file on the PC. That's why Pages loads it up for me on the iPad. So I can edit/save iPad Pages files on a Windows PC network drive. Simple with SMB networking.
This is all basic networking stuff. This is how it is supposed to work. WTH are you doing wrong?
On Apr 9, 2025 at 6:22:22?PM EDT, "Hank Rogers" <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from iOS to
the PC).
Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler...
The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
*The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*
Nope. SMB makes that simple.
The "files" app doesn't work for me.
Then you are clearly doing something wrong. It is designed to do this.
What issues/errors are you getting? Both the PC and the iPhone/iPad need to be >on the same network. Your home wifi for example.
The PC HAS to have an
account with a password. That is a Windows requirement for networking. >Nothing to do with the Files app. If you were connecting 2 Windows PCs, the >same issue would exist.
It does not have to be a Microsoft account. Local account is fine.
"Walled Garden" drivel ingnored.
Tyrone wrote:
On Apr 9, 2025 at 4:36:28 PM EDT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
  I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from iOS to >>>>> the PC).
Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler...
   The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
   *The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*
Nope. SMB makes that simple.
Of course.  I don't know why some people won't accept this fact.
SMB is THE standard for networking. Its how Windows networks with
Windows,
Linux and Unix. iOS - being Unix - does this just fine. Move ANY
files you
want, back and forth. Simple, easy and fast.
And you don't have to share an entire drive on Windows. You can share
a single
folder which has the file(s) in question. I just share the whole drive
because its easier that way. Then - on the iPhone/iPad - you drill
down to
where the file(s) you want are located. Just like you do in Windows
or Linux
or Unix.
Yes, but the apple "Files" app will consider everything read only.
Alan wrote:
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
 I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from iOS to
the PC).
Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler...
  The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
  *The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*
Nope. SMB makes that simple.
The "files" app doesn't work for me. I can use two ways to penetrate the walled garden ( Either from PC to iphone, or iphone to PC ):
1)Â Send the file as an attachment in an email. I haven't used this for
a while, so apple may have plugged that garden wall leak by now.
2) Put the file on a network drive. "files app" won't function, but
there are other apps that do actually work with network drives, (read
and write); for example owl-files (even the free version).
Tyrone wrote:
On Apr 9, 2025 at 8:47:26 PM EDT, "Hank Rogers" <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Tyrone wrote:
On Apr 9, 2025 at 6:22:22 PM EDT, "Hank Rogers" <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from iOS to >>>>>>>> the PC).
Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler...
The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
*The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*
Nope. SMB makes that simple.
The "files" app doesn't work for me.
Then you are clearly doing something wrong. It is designed to do this. >>>>
What issues/errors are you getting?
I have an iphone and an ipad. If I put a file on my network drive, I can >>> see it and read it on my apple toys/gadgets.
But I cannot change anything or add a file using the "files" app, which
sees it as read only. I can use owlfiles app which works, unlike the
apple "files" app. Apple's "files" app appears broken and has been for
a long time.
YOU tell me what to do to get apple's "files" app to work. I will damn
sure try it.
The whole point of the Files app is to see/copy files. Copy the file to your >> iPad. You can then edit it/do whatever you want with it. The Files app is not
a text editor.
You misunderstood. Files cannot put a file onto the network drive. It
can read them fine. Or even copy them. It cannot modify them because it thinks they are read only. How hard is this for you to understand?
Tyrone wrote:
On Apr 9, 2025 at 6:22:22 PM EDT, "Hank Rogers"
<Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
  I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from iOS to >>>>>> the PC).
Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler...
   The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
   *The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*
Nope. SMB makes that simple.
The "files" app doesn't work for me.
Then you are clearly doing something wrong. It is designed to do this.
What issues/errors are you getting?
I have an iphone and an ipad. If I put a file on my network drive, I can
see it and read it on my apple toys/gadgets.
But I cannot change anything or add a file using the "files" app, which
sees it as read only. I can use owlfiles app which works, unlike the
apple "files" app. Apple's "files" app appears broken and has been for
a long time.
YOU tell me what to do to get apple's "files" app to work. I will damn
sure try it.
Tyrone wrote:
On Apr 9, 2025 at 8:47:26 PM EDT, "Hank Rogers"
<Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Tyrone wrote:
On Apr 9, 2025 at 6:22:22 PM EDT, "Hank Rogers"
<Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
   I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from >>>>>>>> iOS to
the PC).
Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler...
    The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
    *The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*
Nope. SMB makes that simple.
The "files" app doesn't work for me.
Then you are clearly doing something wrong. It is designed to do this. >>>>
What issues/errors are you getting?
I have an iphone and an ipad. If I put a file on my network drive, I can >>> see it and read it on my apple toys/gadgets.
But I cannot change anything or add a file using the "files" app, which
sees it as read only. I can use owlfiles app which works, unlike the
apple "files" app. Apple's "files" app appears broken and has been for >>> a long time.
YOU tell me what to do to get apple's "files" app to work. I will damn
sure try it.
The whole point of the Files app is to see/copy files. Copy the file
to your
iPad. You can then edit it/do whatever you want with it. The Files
app is not
a text editor.
You misunderstood. Files cannot put a file onto the network drive. It
can read them fine. Or even copy them. It cannot modify them because it thinks they are read only. How hard is this for you to understand?
Maybe you should spend less time calling them "toys"...
Of course, once edited/saved it is no longer a .txt file. It is now
a .pages
file on the PC. That's why Pages loads it up for me on the iPad. So I can
edit/save iPad Pages files on a Windows PC network drive. Simple with SMB
networking.
I don't use "pages" and don't care at all about it.
This is all basic networking stuff. This is how it is supposed to
work. WTH
are you doing wrong?
You tell me, genius. It works fine with owl files app on my apple toys
and with any of a bunch of windows computers. Every one of them. I use
it every day.
But, maybe you should forget about helping solve my problem, because I
found an app that actually does work on my apple toys.
Besides, did you know that arlen is on the loose again? Better get your
ass moving and track him down. If you don't protect apple, who will?
nospam has been missing (or dead) for many months, so you're the best apologist left I guess.
On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 01:31:17 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :
That's probably true. But I set up my laptop with a Microsoft account so
that's what I had to use.
Whoever wants to try it don't forget to Share the folder on the PC and add >> the user with full rights to the folder.
Both of the statements above are completely correct in that SMB works great except when it doesn't - but it works great when 2 things are already done.
1. You (effectively) must have an account on the PC with a password set
2. You must have sharing on the PC done correctly
On 2025-04-09 15:22, Hank Rogers wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
 I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from iOS to
the PC).
Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler...
  The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
  *The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*
Nope. SMB makes that simple.
The "files" app doesn't work for me. I can use two ways to penetrate
the walled garden ( Either from PC to iphone, or iphone to PC ):
If it doesn't work for you (and assuming you have a new enough version
of iOS) that's on you.
1)Â Send the file as an attachment in an email. I haven't used this
for a while, so apple may have plugged that garden wall leak by now.
2) Put the file on a network drive. "files app" won't function, but
there are other apps that do actually work with network drives, (read
and write); for example owl-files (even the free version).
Why won't '"files app"' function?
On 2025-04-09 17:47, Hank Rogers wrote:
Tyrone wrote:
On Apr 9, 2025 at 6:22:22 PM EDT, "Hank Rogers"
<Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from iOS to >>>>>>> the PC).
Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler...
The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
*The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*
Nope. SMB makes that simple.
The "files" app doesn't work for me.
Then you are clearly doing something wrong. It is designed to do this.
What issues/errors are you getting?
I have an iphone and an ipad. If I put a file on my network drive, I can
see it and read it on my apple toys/gadgets.
But I cannot change anything or add a file using the "files" app, which
sees it as read only. I can use owlfiles app which works, unlike the
apple "files" app. Apple's "files" app appears broken and has been for
a long time.
YOU tell me what to do to get apple's "files" app to work. I will damn
sure try it.
I just copied a file from my iCloud drive folder in Files to my Windows
10 machine's shared folder.
IT
WORKS.
On 2025-04-09 17:47, Hank Rogers wrote:
Tyrone wrote:
On Apr 9, 2025 at 6:22:22 PM EDT, "Hank Rogers"
<Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
  I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from
iOS to
the PC).
Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler...
   The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
   *The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*
Nope. SMB makes that simple.
The "files" app doesn't work for me.
Then you are clearly doing something wrong. It is designed to do this. >>>
What issues/errors are you getting?
I have an iphone and an ipad. If I put a file on my network drive, I
can see it and read it on my apple toys/gadgets.
But I cannot change anything or add a file using the "files" app,
which sees it as read only. I can use owlfiles app which works,
unlike the apple "files" app. Apple's "files" app appears broken and
has been for a long time.
YOU tell me what to do to get apple's "files" app to work. I will damn
sure try it.
I just copied a file from my iCloud drive folder in Files to my Windows
10 machine's shared folder.
IT
WORKS.
Alan wrote:
On 2025-04-09 17:47, Hank Rogers wrote:
Tyrone wrote:
On Apr 9, 2025 at 6:22:22 PM EDT, "Hank Rogers"
<Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
  I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from >>>>>>>> iOS to
the PC).
Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler...
   The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
   *The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*
Nope. SMB makes that simple.
The "files" app doesn't work for me.
Then you are clearly doing something wrong. It is designed to do
this.
What issues/errors are you getting?
I have an iphone and an ipad. If I put a file on my network drive, I
can see it and read it on my apple toys/gadgets.
But I cannot change anything or add a file using the "files" app,
which sees it as read only. I can use owlfiles app which works,
unlike the apple "files" app. Apple's "files" app appears broken
and has been for a long time.
YOU tell me what to do to get apple's "files" app to work. I will
damn sure try it.
I just copied a file from my iCloud drive folder in Files to my
Windows 10 machine's shared folder.
IT
WORKS.
It doesn't work for me. I wish I knew the reason.
I remember ages ago It did work copying to a windows shared folder (I
think), but I have never got it to work on the drive attached to the
router, which is shared among all devices issued an IP address on the network.
Only ipad and iphone have this problem. Windows machines have noSo don't.
problem and the drive shows up in explorer and functions same as any
other disk drive.
And again, it's just apple's "files" app. The Owl files app actually
works perfectly. I haven't tried any other apps from the store, since it works. So, it's not a setting or mis-configuration. It's a bug in
"files" as far as I can tell. Probably will never be fixed I guess. But
It's it's OK because Owl files works. I just hate to give up.
On 2025-04-09 20:33, Hank Rogers wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2025-04-09 17:47, Hank Rogers wrote:
Tyrone wrote:
On Apr 9, 2025 at 6:22:22 PM EDT, "Hank Rogers"
<Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
  I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from >>>>>>>>> iOS to
the PC).
Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler...
   The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
   *The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*
Nope. SMB makes that simple.
The "files" app doesn't work for me.
Then you are clearly doing something wrong. It is designed to do >>>>> this.
What issues/errors are you getting?
I have an iphone and an ipad. If I put a file on my network drive, I
can see it and read it on my apple toys/gadgets.
But I cannot change anything or add a file using the "files" app,
which sees it as read only. I can use owlfiles app which works,
unlike the apple "files" app. Apple's "files" app appears broken
and has been for a long time.
YOU tell me what to do to get apple's "files" app to work. I will
damn sure try it.
I just copied a file from my iCloud drive folder in Files to my
Windows 10 machine's shared folder.
IT
WORKS.
It doesn't work for me. I wish I knew the reason.
Have you spent as much time trying to figure it out as you've spent whining?
I remember ages ago It did work copying to a windows shared folder (I
think), but I have never got it to work on the drive attached to the
router, which is shared among all devices issued an IP address on the
network.
Now you've introduced an unmentioned wrinkle...
...but I bet I could solve it.
So don't.
Only ipad and iphone have this problem. Windows machines have no
problem and the drive shows up in explorer and functions same as any
other disk drive.
And again, it's just apple's "files" app. The Owl files app actually
works perfectly. I haven't tried any other apps from the store, since it
works. So, it's not a setting or mis-configuration. It's a bug in
"files" as far as I can tell. Probably will never be fixed I guess. But
It's it's OK because Owl files works. I just hate to give up.
i
Your statement that 'it's a bug in "Files"' is based on your limited
read of the situation.
What's the router?
What version of SMB is it running?
With what options?
On Apr 9, 2025 at 11:04:02 PM EDT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-09 17:47, Hank Rogers wrote:
Tyrone wrote:
On Apr 9, 2025 at 6:22:22 PM EDT, "Hank Rogers"
<Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from iOS to >>>>>>>> the PC).
Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler...
The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
*The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*
Nope. SMB makes that simple.
The "files" app doesn't work for me.
Then you are clearly doing something wrong. It is designed to do this. >>>>
What issues/errors are you getting?
I have an iphone and an ipad. If I put a file on my network drive, I can >>> see it and read it on my apple toys/gadgets.
But I cannot change anything or add a file using the "files" app, which
sees it as read only. I can use owlfiles app which works, unlike the
apple "files" app. Apple's "files" app appears broken and has been for
a long time.
YOU tell me what to do to get apple's "files" app to work. I will damn
sure try it.
I just copied a file from my iCloud drive folder in Files to my Windows
10 machine's shared folder.
IT
WORKS.
Of course it does.
This is a Lost Cause, Alan. Trolls refuse to believe how easy this is. Because Apple is a "walled garden".
On 2025-04-09 18:53, Hank Rogers wrote:
Tyrone wrote:
On Apr 9, 2025 at 8:47:26 PM EDT, "Hank Rogers"
<Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Tyrone wrote:
On Apr 9, 2025 at 6:22:22 PM EDT, "Hank Rogers"
<Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
   I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from >>>>>>>>> iOS to
the PC).
Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler...
    The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
    *The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*
Nope. SMB makes that simple.
The "files" app doesn't work for me.
Then you are clearly doing something wrong. It is designed to do this. >>>>>
What issues/errors are you getting?
I have an iphone and an ipad. If I put a file on my network drive, I can >>>> see it and read it on my apple toys/gadgets.
But I cannot change anything or add a file using the "files" app, which >>>> sees it as read only. I can use owlfiles app which works, unlike the >>>> apple "files" app. Apple's "files" app appears broken and has been for >>>> a long time.
YOU tell me what to do to get apple's "files" app to work. I will damn >>>> sure try it.
The whole point of the Files app is to see/copy files. Copy the file
to your
iPad. You can then edit it/do whatever you want with it. The Files
app is not
a text editor.
You misunderstood. Files cannot put a file onto the network drive. It
can read them fine. Or even copy them. It cannot modify them because it
thinks they are read only. How hard is this for you to understand?
I'm sorry, but you're still wrong.
Files CAN put a file onto an SMB share...
...assuming you connect to it with write privileges.
Maybe you should spend less time calling them "toys"...
Of course, once edited/saved it is no longer a .txt file. It is now
a .pages
file on the PC. That's why Pages loads it up for me on the iPad. So I can >>> edit/save iPad Pages files on a Windows PC network drive. Simple with SMB >>> networking.
I don't use "pages" and don't care at all about it.
This is all basic networking stuff. This is how it is supposed to
work. WTH
are you doing wrong?
You tell me, genius. It works fine with owl files app on my apple toys
and with any of a bunch of windows computers. Every one of them. I use
it every day.
But, maybe you should forget about helping solve my problem, because I
found an app that actually does work on my apple toys.
Besides, did you know that arlen is on the loose again? Better get your
ass moving and track him down. If you don't protect apple, who will?
nospam has been missing (or dead) for many months, so you're the best
apologist left I guess.
...and more time learning how to use them?
On 2025-04-06 23:53, Enrico Papaloma wrote:
On 4/7/2025 8:16 AM, Paul wrote:
Yes, you can transfer files from an iPhone to a Windows PC using the
**SMB (Server Message Block)** protocol.
Anyone can pull off an iPhone/iOS but the hard part is going the
other way.
Pushing the file from the PC to iOS is what this thread seems to be
about based on the subject, which is to PUSH from the PC to the
iPhone/iPad.
And you have to be able to PUSH from the PC to iOS all file types &
sizes.
You'd need an SMB server on the iOS device & the SMB client on
Windows.
Nope.
Because with a file server and client "push" and "pull" become
irrelevant if you have control over both.
Sure: there is no SMB server implementation for iOS, so to transfer
files from a PC to an iOS device, you PULL them.
On 7 Apr 2025 00:42:59 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
iTunes runs fine in Windows. I've got it installed. And it works fine
for this purpose.
The unofficial guide to installing iTunes 10 ewithout blah blah blah...
Yes, but the apple "Files" app will consider everything read only.
So? The discussion here is about COPYING files from Windows to iOS. The Files
app does that just fine. Any file, both directions.
...and more time learning how to use them?
Im sorry I offended you.. I won't bother you again.
I just copied a file from my iCloud drive folder in Files to my Windows
10 machine's shared folder.
IT
WORKS.
Of course it does.
This is a Lost Cause, Alan. Trolls refuse to believe how easy this is.
Because Apple is a "walled garden".
Look, my goal is to solve a problem.
All settings are the default
IT
WORKS.
It doesn't work for me. I wish I knew the reason.
I remember ages ago It did work copying to a windows shared folder (I
think), but I have never got it to work on the drive attached to the
router, which is shared among all devices issued an IP address on the network.
Only ipad and iphone have this problem. Windows machines have no
problem and the drive shows up in explorer and functions same as any
other disk drive.
And again, it's just apple's "files" app. The Owl files app actually
works perfectly. I haven't tried any other apps from the store, since it works. So, it's not a setting or mis-configuration. It's a bug in
"files" as far as I can tell. Probably will never be fixed I guess. But
It's it's OK because Owl files works. I just hate to give up.
What issues/errors are you getting? Both the PC and the iPhone/iPad need to be
on the same network. Your home wifi for example.
Google seems to think it can work across one or more routers, including across the Internet. They go out of their way to say that would be a bad idea, due to the attack surface, or because an ISP might block the well
known ports, but you could tunnel it through a VPN to get around that,
if necessary. I'm not saying anyone should do it, but it does seem to be possible since it's just another protocol riding on top of TCP/IP.
Once connected, you can copy files in both directions. It is NOT difficult to copy files from Windows (or Unix or Linux) to iOS (Unix).
The "files" app doesn't work for me. I can use two ways to penetrate
the walled garden ( Either from PC to iphone, or iphone to PC ):
If it doesn't work for you (and assuming you have a new enough version
of iOS) that's on you.
If I try to add a file for example, it says the network drive is read
only. If this makes me a troll, so be it.
The unofficial guide to installing iTunes 10 ewithout blah blah blah...
Not necessary.
So is your suggested solution, if you gloss arcane SMB sharing setup.
1. Use SMB
That you can't do it is obvious by the fact you can't show screenshots.
Show everyone, with screenshots, that you can push PC files to iOS.
In two steps.
We'll wait for you to prove, with screenshots, that you have done it.
Because nobody else has.
I just tried it and it works precisely as stated.
I entered the IP address of my Windows machine; gave it my (local)
Windows account and password and was instantly connected to the shared folders on the Windows box.
Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:[...]
On Apr 9, 2025 at 11:04:02 PM EDT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-09 17:47, Hank Rogers wrote:
Tyrone wrote:
On Apr 9, 2025 at 6:22:22â?¯PM EDT, "Hank Rogers"
<Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
Look, my goal is to solve a problem. Your goal is to Evangelize.
That?s fine. I don?t want your damn help. Now run along and look for arlen. You?ll be much happier.
On Apr 9, 2025 at 4:36:28?PM EDT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from iOS to
the PC).
Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler...
The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
*The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*
Nope. SMB makes that simple.
Of course. I don't know why some people won't accept this fact.
SMB is THE standard for networking. Its how Windows networks with Windows, Linux and Unix. iOS - being Unix - does this just fine. Move ANY files you want, back and forth. Simple, easy and fast.
And you don't have to share an entire drive on Windows. You can share a single
folder which has the file(s) in question. I just share the whole drive because its easier that way. Then - on the iPhone/iPad - you drill down to where the file(s) you want are located. Just like you do in Windows or Linux or Unix.
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 03:24:59 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
Once connected, you can copy files in both directions. It is NOT difficult to
copy files from Windows (or Unix or Linux) to iOS (Unix).
You were paid by Apple to defend Apple to the death, for years, nospam.
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:You haven't offended me.
On 2025-04-09 18:53, Hank Rogers wrote:
Tyrone wrote:
On Apr 9, 2025 at 8:47:26 PM EDT, "Hank Rogers"
<Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Tyrone wrote:
On Apr 9, 2025 at 6:22:22 PM EDT, "Hank Rogers"
<Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
   I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from >>>>>>>>>> iOS to
the PC).
Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler... >>>>>>>>>
    The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
    *The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*
Nope. SMB makes that simple.
The "files" app doesn't work for me.
Then you are clearly doing something wrong. It is designed to do this. >>>>>>
What issues/errors are you getting?
I have an iphone and an ipad. If I put a file on my network drive, I can >>>>> see it and read it on my apple toys/gadgets.
But I cannot change anything or add a file using the "files" app, which >>>>> sees it as read only. I can use owlfiles app which works, unlike the >>>>> apple "files" app. Apple's "files" app appears broken and has been for >>>>> a long time.
YOU tell me what to do to get apple's "files" app to work. I will damn >>>>> sure try it.
The whole point of the Files app is to see/copy files. Copy the file
to your
iPad. You can then edit it/do whatever you want with it. The Files
app is not
a text editor.
You misunderstood. Files cannot put a file onto the network drive. It
can read them fine. Or even copy them. It cannot modify them because it
thinks they are read only. How hard is this for you to understand?
I'm sorry, but you're still wrong.
Files CAN put a file onto an SMB share...
...assuming you connect to it with write privileges.
Maybe you should spend less time calling them "toys"...
Of course, once edited/saved it is no longer a .txt file. It is now
a .pages
file on the PC. That's why Pages loads it up for me on the iPad. So I can >>>> edit/save iPad Pages files on a Windows PC network drive. Simple with SMB >>>> networking.
I don't use "pages" and don't care at all about it.
This is all basic networking stuff. This is how it is supposed to
work. WTH
are you doing wrong?
You tell me, genius. It works fine with owl files app on my apple toys
and with any of a bunch of windows computers. Every one of them. I use
it every day.
But, maybe you should forget about helping solve my problem, because I
found an app that actually does work on my apple toys.
Besides, did you know that arlen is on the loose again? Better get your >>> ass moving and track him down. If you don't protect apple, who will?
nospam has been missing (or dead) for many months, so you're the best
apologist left I guess.
...and more time learning how to use them?
Im sorry I offended you.. I won’t bother you again.
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 04:15:39 -0000 (UTC), Hank Rogers wrote :
...and more time learning how to use them?
Im sorry I offended you.. I won't bother you again.
Have you noticed that nospam (Tyrone) and Alan Baker both claim they did
it, but neither of them ever knows how to post a screenshot proving it.
Meanwhile, you and badgolferman tried, and failed, as did I (but I'm not creating an account on my Windows PC just to get iOS to do trivial tasks).
Whom do you believe?
a. Apple trolls like nospam (Tyrone) & Alan Baker who historically have
sadistically sent people on wild-goose chases for decades, or...
b. People like yourself and badgolferman, who are simply trying to do
something as trivial as copy a file from Windows over the LAN to iOS?
Note that out of BILLIONS of people on this planet who might want to copy a file from Windows to iOS using the Files SMB client, there isn't a single screenshot of that being successful in the entire world wide Internet.
Not even a single screenshot in the entire universe shows it working.
Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
On Apr 9, 2025 at 11:04:02 PM EDT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-09 17:47, Hank Rogers wrote:
Tyrone wrote:
On Apr 9, 2025 at 6:22:22 PM EDT, "Hank Rogers"
<Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from iOS to >>>>>>>>> the PC).
Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler...
The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
*The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*
Nope. SMB makes that simple.
The "files" app doesn't work for me.
Then you are clearly doing something wrong. It is designed to do this. >>>>>
What issues/errors are you getting?
I have an iphone and an ipad. If I put a file on my network drive, I can >>>> see it and read it on my apple toys/gadgets.
But I cannot change anything or add a file using the "files" app, which >>>> sees it as read only. I can use owlfiles app which works, unlike the
apple "files" app. Apple's "files" app appears broken and has been for >>>> a long time.
YOU tell me what to do to get apple's "files" app to work. I will damn >>>> sure try it.
I just copied a file from my iCloud drive folder in Files to my Windows
10 machine's shared folder.
IT
WORKS.
Of course it does.
This is a Lost Cause, Alan. Trolls refuse to believe how easy this is.
Because Apple is a "walled garden".
Look, my goal is to solve a problem. Your goal is to Evangelize.
That’s fine. I don’t want your damn help. Now run along and look for arlen. You’ll be much happier.
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 04:12:14 -0000 (UTC), Hank Rogers wrote :
I just copied a file from my iCloud drive folder in Files to my Windows >>>> 10 machine's shared folder.
IT
WORKS.
Of course it does.
This is a Lost Cause, Alan. Trolls refuse to believe how easy this is.
Because Apple is a "walled garden".
Look, my goal is to solve a problem.
Is it lost on anyone that nospam (Tyrone), Alan Baker & Jolly Roger insist they have the technical ability to make it work - and yet - none of these well-known Apple trolls has the technical acumen to post a screenshot?
On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 22:33:35 -0500, Hank Rogers wrote :
IT
WORKS.
It doesn't work for me. I wish I knew the reason.
I remember ages ago It did work copying to a windows shared folder (I
think), but I have never got it to work on the drive attached to the
router, which is shared among all devices issued an IP address on the
network.
Only ipad and iphone have this problem. Windows machines have no
problem and the drive shows up in explorer and functions same as any
other disk drive.
And again, it's just apple's "files" app. The Owl files app actually
works perfectly. I haven't tried any other apps from the store, since it
works. So, it's not a setting or mis-configuration. It's a bug in
"files" as far as I can tell. Probably will never be fixed I guess. But
It's it's OK because Owl files works. I just hate to give up.
Thank you for being an adult, along with badgolferman, and trying to simply copy a file from Windows to the iOS device using iOS' Files SMB client app.
Please keep in mind that Alan Baker, nospam (Tyrone), Jolly Roger have been brazenly fabricating completely imaginary iOS functionality for decades...
*It's a fact iOS devices can't even graph Wi-Fi signal strength over time*
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/PZuec56EWB0>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/PZuec56EWB0>
Why can't these Apple trolls post a screenshot of it working for them?
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:Well there you go.
On 2025-04-09 20:33, Hank Rogers wrote:Netgear RAX54v2, as I said previously.
Alan wrote:
On 2025-04-09 17:47, Hank Rogers wrote:
Tyrone wrote:
On Apr 9, 2025 at 6:22:22 PM EDT, "Hank Rogers"
<Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2025-04-08 00:43, Marion wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:50:34 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
  I do not. Hence, SMB doesn't work (in that direction from >>>>>>>>>> iOS to
the PC).
Aurgh. I keep writing it wrong(ly). Let me say it simpler... >>>>>>>>>
   The problem isn't getting files _off_ of iOS.
   *The problem is getting files _ON_ to iOS.*
Nope. SMB makes that simple.
The "files" app doesn't work for me.
Then you are clearly doing something wrong. It is designed to do >>>>>> this.
What issues/errors are you getting?
I have an iphone and an ipad. If I put a file on my network drive, I >>>>> can see it and read it on my apple toys/gadgets.
But I cannot change anything or add a file using the "files" app,
which sees it as read only. I can use owlfiles app which works,
unlike the apple "files" app. Apple's "files" app appears broken >>>>> and has been for a long time.
YOU tell me what to do to get apple's "files" app to work. I will
damn sure try it.
I just copied a file from my iCloud drive folder in Files to my
Windows 10 machine's shared folder.
IT
WORKS.
It doesn't work for me. I wish I knew the reason.
Have you spent as much time trying to figure it out as you've spent whining? >>
I remember ages ago It did work copying to a windows shared folder (I
think), but I have never got it to work on the drive attached to the
router, which is shared among all devices issued an IP address on the
network.
Now you've introduced an unmentioned wrinkle...
...but I bet I could solve it.
So don't.
Only ipad and iphone have this problem. Windows machines have no
problem and the drive shows up in explorer and functions same as any
other disk drive.
And again, it's just apple's "files" app. The Owl files app actually
works perfectly. I haven't tried any other apps from the store, since it >>> works. So, it's not a setting or mis-configuration. It's a bug in
"files" as far as I can tell. Probably will never be fixed I guess. But
It's it's OK because Owl files works. I just hate to give up.
i
Your statement that 'it's a bug in "Files"' is based on your limited
read of the situation.
What's the router?
What version of SMB is it running?
i have no idea. It has a usb port for a disk drive. All settings are the default
With what options?No password set for the drive. Of course all devices have to use the
routers password to get dhcp to issue an ip address.
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 03:24:59 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
Once connected, you can copy files in both directions. It is NOT difficult to
copy files from Windows (or Unix or Linux) to iOS (Unix).
You were paid by Apple to defend Apple to the death, for years, nospam. You're brazenly fabricating imaginary iOS functionality that doesn't exist.
The fact you can't supply a screenshot of it working says more than you do. Hell, you can't even *find* a screenshot on the entire Internet showing it.
On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 09:48:48 -0700, Alan wrote:
Another user reporting read-only access after a specific iOS update. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254377889So is your suggested solution, if you gloss arcane SMB sharing setup.
1. Use SMB
That you can't do it is obvious by the fact you can't show screenshots.
Show everyone, with screenshots, that you can push PC files to iOS.
In two steps.
We'll wait for you to prove, with screenshots, that you have done it.
Because nobody else has.
I just tried it and it works precisely as stated.
I entered the IP address of my Windows machine; gave it my (local)
Windows account and password and was instantly connected to the shared
folders on the Windows box.
iOS 16.1.1 Files app SMB share read only - Apple Support Communities:
iPad Pro M2 - SMB share read only - Apple Support Communities: This thread indicates the issue isn't limited to iPhones and affects iPads as well. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254188884
iOS 17.3.1 - SMB Share Read Only - Apple Support Communities: Demonstrating that the problem persists across different iOS versions. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255308918
SMB share on iPhone is read only - Reddit: A straightforward question from
a user experiencing the issue. https://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/y264wv/ smb_share_on_iphone_is_read_only/
iOS 18 - Shares are "Read Only" - Unraid Forums: This ongoing discussion indicates that since updating to iOS 18, users are experiencing their
Unraid SMB shares mounting as read-only in the Files app. They discuss various attempts to fix it, including modifying the smb.conf file. https://forums.unraid.net/topic/185586-ios-18-shares-%E2%80%9Cread- only%E2%80%9D/
Home NAS is Read Only in Files app : r/ios - Reddit: This Reddit thread
from several months ago details a user experiencing their home NAS becoming read-only in the Files app after an iOS update. Comments suggest this is a known issue and offer potential (though not universally successful) workarounds.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/1ahrk3b/ home_nas_is_read_only_in_files_app/
files/folders on smb server read only since ios 18 - Apple Support Communities: This thread on Apple's own support forums has multiple users reporting that their SMB shares have become read-only in the Files app
since updating to iOS 18. Users discuss potential fixes and the lack of a consistent solution. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255775451
Samba shares are readonly on iOS · Issue #3834 · home-assistant/addons - GitHub: This GitHub issue report discusses the Samba share add-on for Home Assistant being mounted as read-only in the iOS Files app. It includes technical details and user troubleshooting attempts. https://github.com/home-assistant/addons/issues/3834
iOS 17 SMB Read-Only Issue - Apple Support Communities: This thread
discusses users experiencing their SMB shares becoming read-only after updating to iOS 17. Users share their configurations and troubleshooting steps. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255148858
iPadOS 16.4 - SMB Share Read Only - Apple Support Communities: This thread details users encountering read-only access to their SMB shares on iPads after updating to iPadOS 16.4.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254708917
SMB Share Suddenly Read Only - MacRumors Forums: A discussion on a popular Apple forum where users discuss their SMB shares becoming read-only on iOS and iPadOS, with potential causes and temporary fixes being explored. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/smb-share-suddenly-read-only.2388499/
iOS 15.4 SMB Share Read Only - Apple Support Communities: This thread indicates that the read-only issue has been present in earlier iOS versions as well, suggesting it's not a new problem. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/253730707
iOS 16 Files App - SMB Share Read Only - Apple Support Communities: Another thread where users discuss their SMB shares mounting as read-only in the Files app after updating to iOS 16. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254198977
SMB Share Suddenly Read Only - MacRumors Forums: A discussion on a popular Apple forum where users discuss their SMB shares becoming read-only on iOS and iPadOS. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/smb-share-suddenly-read-only.2388499/
Files app smb share is read only - Reddit: A user seeking help on why their SMB share is only accessible in read-only mode on their iOS device. https://www.reddit.com/r/ipad/comments/t359pd/ files_app_smb_share_is_read_only/
smb write access not working after updating to iOS 18 - Apple Support Communities: This thread specifically mentions the inability to write to
SMB shares after updating iOS.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255767505
SMB read only !? : r/ios - Reddit: This recent Reddit thread discusses
users experiencing read-only access to their SMB shares via the Files
app after updating iOS. https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/1hoyqw9/ smb_read_only/
files/folders on smb server read only since ios 18 - Apple Support Communities: This ongoing discussion indicates that many users are encountering read-only issues with their SMB shares in the Files app
after updating to iOS 18. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255775451
Samba SMB shares are read only now in Files on iOS 14.5 - Apple Support Community: This older thread shows that read-only issues with SMB in the Files app have been a recurring problem for a while. https:// discussions.apple.com/thread/252772242
iOS 16 Files App - SMB Share Read Only - Apple Support Communities:
Another thread where users report that their SMB shares are mounted as read-only in the Files app after updating to iOS 16. https:// discussions.apple.com/thread/254198977
Files app smb share is read only - Reddit: A user seeking help on why
their SMB share is only accessible in read-only mode on their iOS
device. https://www.reddit.com/r/ipad/comments/t359pd/ files_app_smb_share_is_read_only/
Files App SMB server connection fails and shows "Empty" - Apple Support Communities: This thread discusses issues where users can't connect to
their SMB servers or see empty folders after connecting. While not
always about writing, it highlights the general instability of the SMB connection in the Files app. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255360633
[iOS 17.4 DB2] Unable to View/Access NAS Files on the Apple Files App
via SMB - Reddit: This Reddit thread reports an inability to even view
files on a NAS via SMB after an iOS update, indicating fundamental
connection problems. https://www.reddit.com/r/iOSBeta/comments/1amfj1c/ ios_174_db2_unable_to_viewaccess_nas_files_on_the/
SMB Server in Files app failed to connect · Issue #171 · checkra1n/ BugTracker - GitHub: While related to jailbreaking, this thread from a
few years ago also points to fundamental connection issues with the
Files app and SMB. https://github.com/checkra1n/BugTracker/issues/171
iOS Files App not connecting to SMB share - Apple Support Communities: A
user describes the Files app intermittently failing to connect to their
SMB share, requiring restarts and other troubleshooting steps. https:// discussions.apple.com/thread/254632018
iPhone Files app can't connect to local SMB share - Reddit: A user
details their struggles to consistently connect their iPhone to a local
SMB share using the Files app. https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/ q6788s/iphone_files_app_cant_connect_to_local_smb_share/
Why is it so f***** hard to transfer files to my iPhone? https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/18qx5fo/ why_is_it_so_f_hard_to_transfer_files_to_my_iphone/?rdt=62942
Sorry, but it works perfectly for me.
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 10:15:21 -0700, Alan wrote:
Sorry, but it works perfectly for me.
Maybe you can sit at your macintosh keyboard to push a file from that PC
over to the iOS device file system but those sitting on Windows & Linux PCs say they can't push their files & folders from their PC keyboards, monitors
& mice over to their iOS devices.
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 03:24:59 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
Once connected, you can copy files in both directions. It is NOT difficult to
copy files from Windows (or Unix or Linux) to iOS (Unix).
You were paid by Apple to defend Apple to the death, for years, nospam. You're brazenly fabricating imaginary iOS functionality that doesn't exist.
The fact you can't supply a screenshot of it working says more than you do. Hell, you can't even *find* a screenshot on the entire Internet showing it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/d82piq/pro_tip_sharing_between_pc_and_ios_using_smb_and/?rdt=53352
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 10:15:21 -0700, Alan wrote:
Sorry, but it works perfectly for me.
Maybe you can sit at your macintosh keyboard to push a file from that
PC over to the iOS device file system but those sitting on Windows &
Linux PCs say they can't push their files & folders from their PC
keyboards, monitors & mice over to their iOS devices.
On 10 Apr 2025 05:10:01 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
The unofficial guide to installing iTunes 10 ewithout blah blah blah...
Not necessary.
There is no Windows user who is going to install that iTunes
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 03:24:59 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
Once connected, you can copy files in both directions. It is NOT difficult to
copy files from Windows (or Unix or Linux) to iOS (Unix).
You were paid by Apple to defend Apple to the death, for years, nospam.
On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 01:06:01 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
It's a lie of omission for you to pretend that it matters that you canhttps://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/d82piq/pro_tip_sharing_between_pc_and_ios_using_smb_and/?rdt=53352
Someone posted dozens of current threads on the fact it doesn't work with
the newest iOS versions & the best you Apple trolls can find is from 2019?
It's shockingly common you Apple trolls brazenly lie that you sat at the PC to push & pull files to & from iOS like we do all the time with Android.
<https://i.postimg.cc/DZB9YDcR/copyfiles01.jpg> Copy from Win10 to Android
Here's one from *13 years ago*:
On 11 Apr 2025 15:52:04 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
Here's one from *13 years ago*:
My references were current as of today. Many were on iOS 17 & 18 of today. Yours are a decade or more old. From iOS 5. Nobody even has that anymore.
Show something current on the net indicating it works today in iOS 18.
On 2025-04-10, Mickey D <mickeydavis078XX@ptd.net> wrote:
On 10 Apr 2025 05:10:01 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
The unofficial guide to installing iTunes 10 ewithout blah blah blah... >>Not necessary.
There is no Windows user who is going to install that iTunes
Nonsense, there are plenty. I've had iTunes installed on my Windows PCs
for years without issue. Your trolls are weak.
In misc.phone.mobile.iphone Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-10, Mickey D <mickeydavis078XX@ptd.net> wrote:
On 10 Apr 2025 05:10:01 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
The unofficial guide to installing iTunes 10 ewithout blah blah blah... >>>>Not necessary.
There is no Windows user who is going to install that iTunes
Nonsense, there are plenty. I've had iTunes installed on my Windows PCs
for years without issue. Your trolls are weak.
Ditto. I still have and use iTunes. Doesn't Apple Music still install
iTunes too in WIndows? I am nt touching Apple Music at this time.
On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 01:06:01 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/d82piq/pro_tip_sharing_between_pc_and_ios_using_smb_and/?rdt=53352
Someone posted dozens of current threads on the fact it doesn't work with
the newest iOS versions & the best you Apple trolls can find is from 2019?
It's shockingly common you Apple trolls brazenly lie that you sat at the PC to push & pull files to & from iOS like we do all the time with Android.
<https://i.postimg.cc/DZB9YDcR/copyfiles01.jpg> Copy from Win10 to Android
On 2025-04-10, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 03:24:59 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
Once connected, you can copy files in both directions. It is NOT difficult to
copy files from Windows (or Unix or Linux) to iOS (Unix).
You were paid by Apple to defend Apple to the death, for years, nospam.
LOL... Dude is off his rocker. 🤣
On 2025-04-11 14:59, Ant wrote:
In misc.phone.mobile.iphone Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-10, Mickey D <mickeydavis078XX@ptd.net> wrote:
On 10 Apr 2025 05:10:01 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
The unofficial guide to installing iTunes 10 ewithout blah blah blah... >>>>Not necessary.
There is no Windows user who is going to install that iTunes
Nonsense, there are plenty. I've had iTunes installed on my Windows PCs
for years without issue. Your trolls are weak.
Ditto. I still have and use iTunes. Doesn't Apple Music still install iTunes too in WIndows? I am nt touching Apple Music at this time.
Get with the times.
iTunes is still available, but no, Apple Music is its own app.
As is the "Apple Devices" app for controlling...
...Apple devices.
So there is no need for using iTunes if you don't want to.
Someone posted dozens of current threads on the fact it doesn't work with
the newest iOS versions & the best you Apple trolls can find is from 2019?
I am doing it on current versions. YOU are the Apple Troll.
My iPhone 16 running iOS 18.3.2
In alt.comp.os.windows-10 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-11 14:59, Ant wrote:
In misc.phone.mobile.iphone Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-10, Mickey D <mickeydavis078XX@ptd.net> wrote:
On 10 Apr 2025 05:10:01 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
The unofficial guide to installing iTunes 10 ewithout blah blah blah... >>>>>>Not necessary.
There is no Windows user who is going to install that iTunes
Nonsense, there are plenty. I've had iTunes installed on my Windows PCs >>>> for years without issue. Your trolls are weak.
Ditto. I still have and use iTunes. Doesn't Apple Music still install
iTunes too in WIndows? I am nt touching Apple Music at this time.
Get with the times.
iTunes is still available, but no, Apple Music is its own app.
As is the "Apple Devices" app for controlling...
...Apple devices.
So there is no need for using iTunes if you don't want to.
I will when Apple stops updating it and doesn't work with my iDevices
like iPoad nano 6G, iPhones (6+ and 12 mini), etc. I read that APple
Music app is awful so I will wait until I am forced. I'm fine with
iTunes for sync and local back ups.
On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 00:37:08 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
Someone posted dozens of current threads on the fact it doesn't work with >>> the newest iOS versions & the best you Apple trolls can find is from 2019? >>I am doing it on current versions. YOU are the Apple Troll.
Look nospam, you've been lying for decades about everything and you haven't supplied a screenshot of you doing it from the PC without using the cloud.
Why are you so "technical" & yet you can't figure out how to screenshot?
You Apple trolls haven't changed in decades. You actually *hate* that what works seamlessly on all other platforms, is, at best, a clusterfuck on iOS.
On Android, this is all you do:
1. Sit at the Windows computer & connect the Android via USB
2. Slide files from Windows to Android
It's that easy with Android. Yet, that's impossible to do with iOS.
We have to come up with SMB or LocalSend clusterfucks to get iOS to do something as trivial as copy a file from the Windows PC to the iOS device.
Oh wait! SMB can't do that from the PC. You lied.
Luckily LocalSend can do it from the PC.
1. Sit at the Windows computer & connect any other device via Wi-Fi
2. Slide files from Windows to that device (after accepting a trust prompt)
Luckily, there's no need for the SMB clusterfuck with LocalSend around.
*Tutorial: How to send files from the PC to/from anything over the LAN using LocalSend*
<https://newsgrouper.org/alt.comp.os.windows-10/189078/0> <https://rec.photo.digital.narkive.com/C72eE4gc/tutorial-how-to-send-files-between-windows-ios-over-the-lan-using-localsend>
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=86116&group=alt.comp.os.windows-10#86116>
Unless you can improve upon that process, there's nothing more to say.
On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 13:35:53 -0700, Alan wrote:
My iPhone 16 running iOS 18.3.2
You used iCloud. That's cheating.
On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 13:35:53 -0700, Alan wrote:
My iPhone 16 running iOS 18.3.2
You used iCloud. That's cheating.
On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 00:37:08 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
How about a screen recording:Someone posted dozens of current threads on the fact it doesn't work with >>> the newest iOS versions & the best you Apple trolls can find is from 2019? >>I am doing it on current versions. YOU are the Apple Troll.
Look nospam, you've been lying for decades about everything and you haven't supplied a screenshot of you doing it from the PC without using the cloud.
Why are you so "technical" & yet you can't figure out how to screenshot?
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 03:24:59 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
Once connected, you can copy files in both directions. It is NOT difficult to
copy files from Windows (or Unix or Linux) to iOS (Unix).
You were paid by Apple to defend Apple to the death, for years, nospam. You're brazenly fabricating imaginary iOS functionality that doesn't exist.
The fact you can't supply a screenshot of it working says more than you do. Hell, you can't even *find* a screenshot on the entire Internet showing it.
On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 00:37:08 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
Someone posted dozens of current threads on the fact it doesn't work with >>> the newest iOS versions & the best you Apple trolls can find is from 2019? >>I am doing it on current versions. YOU are the Apple Troll.
Look nospam, you've been lying for decades about everything and you haven't supplied a screenshot of you doing it from the PC without using the cloud.
On Apr 11, 2025 at 9:18:28 PM EDT, "Marion" <marion@facts.com> wrote:
On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 00:37:08 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
Someone posted dozens of current threads on the fact it doesn't work with >>>> the newest iOS versions & the best you Apple trolls can find is from 2019? >>>I am doing it on current versions. YOU are the Apple Troll.
Look nospam, you've been lying for decades about everything and you haven't >> supplied a screenshot of you doing it from the PC without using the cloud.
Why are you obsessed with "nospam"? I am not "nospam". And screen shots have already been provided by others.
And screen shots have already been provided by others.
You also need an account with a password.
Congratulations. You now know how SMB networking works.
On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 22:17:06 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
And screen shots have already been provided by others.
The best Jolly Roger could find is something from iOS 4 and iOS 5 nospam.
And the best Alan Baker could do was screenshot AFTER using the iCloud! Worse, you can't even screenshot what you claim works from the PC, nospam.
On 11 Apr 2025 15:52:04 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
Here's one from *13 years ago*:
My references were current as of today.
On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 13:35:53 -0700, Alan wrote:
My iPhone 16 running iOS 18.3.2
You used iCloud. That's cheating.
In alt.comp.os.windows-10 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-11 14:59, Ant wrote:
In misc.phone.mobile.iphone Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-10, Mickey D <mickeydavis078XX@ptd.net> wrote:
On 10 Apr 2025 05:10:01 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
The unofficial guide to installing iTunes 10 ewithout blah blah blah...
Not necessary.
There is no Windows user who is going to install that iTunes
Nonsense, there are plenty. I've had iTunes installed on my Windows PCs >> >> for years without issue. Your trolls are weak.
Ditto. I still have and use iTunes. Doesn't Apple Music still install
iTunes too in WIndows? I am nt touching Apple Music at this time.
Get with the times.
iTunes is still available, but no, Apple Music is its own app.
As is the "Apple Devices" app for controlling...
...Apple devices.
So there is no need for using iTunes if you don't want to.
I will when Apple stops updating it and doesn't work with my iDevices
like iPoad nano 6G, iPhones (6+ and 12 mini), etc. I read that APple
Music app is awful
In misc.phone.mobile.iphone Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2025-04-10, Mickey D <mickeydavis078XX@ptd.net> wrote:
On 10 Apr 2025 05:10:01 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
The unofficial guide to installing iTunes 10 ewithout blah blah blah... >> >>Not necessary.
There is no Windows user who is going to install that iTunes
Nonsense, there are plenty. I've had iTunes installed on my Windows PCs
for years without issue. Your trolls are weak.
Ditto. I still have and use iTunes.
On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 22:17:06 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
And screen shots have already been provided by others.
The best Jolly Roger could find is something from iOS 4
On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 00:37:08 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
Someone posted dozens of current threads on the fact it doesn't work with >>> the newest iOS versions & the best you Apple trolls can find is from 2019? >>I am doing it on current versions. YOU are the Apple Troll.
Look nospam,
Yes, the trolls desperately want everyone to believe iTunes is a
monster, but millions of people have been using it for decades without
issue.
On 14 Apr 2025 20:42:53 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
Yes, the trolls desperately want everyone to believe iTunes is a
monster, but millions of people have been using it for decades without
issue.
I am always sensibly logical and reasonable, so here's what people need to know about the Apple trolls' claims that "iTunes" is the solution here.
For the people on this ng to know, Apple has deprecated iTunes on all
*their* operating systems, but left the iTunes broken on Windows.
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