Hello all
At present I use Windows 10 Pro, but am beginning to consider changing to Windows 11 Pro.
I do not like the idea of having to log in with a Microsoft account though. If I did decide
to change to Windows 11 is it possible to install to replace my Windows 10 OS with a
local account and not affect my installed software. Some of the software I use is
no longer available and I do not wish to lose them.
I have looked on the internet and there seem to be differing opinions as to what I want
to do.
Has anyone any experience of what I wish to do ?
Is there a Windows 11 newsgroup ? I am having difficulty in finding one.
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scbs29 wrote:

Hello all
At present I use Windows 10 Pro, but am beginning to consider changing to Windows 11 Pro.
I do not like the idea of having to log in with a Microsoft account though. If I did decide
to change to Windows 11 is it possible to install to replace my Windows 10 OS with a
local account and not affect my installed software. Some of the software I use is
no longer available and I do not wish to lose them.
I have looked on the internet and there seem to be differing opinions as to what I want
to do.
Has anyone any experience of what I wish to do ?
Is there a Windows 11 newsgroup ? I am having difficulty in finding one.

Do you want a new computer with W11? It used to be possible to install
W11 without a Microsoft Account (MSA) but it has become increasingly
difficult to do so - follow recent discussions in this newsgroup. You
may find that you have to set up the new machine using a MSA then create
a "Local Admin" account; after which you can remove the MSA login.

Or do you want to upgrade your existing W10 computer to W11? M$ will
probably offer this to you automatically - perhaps without you actually realising it - provided that the W10 machine meets the hardware
requirements. In this case all your existing installed software will
probably continue to work.


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Graham J

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On 4/15/2025 7:10 AM, scbs29 wrote:

Hello all
At present I use Windows 10 Pro, but am beginning to consider changing to Windows 11 Pro.
I do not like the idea of having to log in with a Microsoft account though. If I did decide
to change to Windows 11 is it possible to install to replace my Windows 10 OS with a
local account and not affect my installed software. Some of the software I use is
no longer available and I do not wish to lose them.
I have looked on the internet and there seem to be differing opinions as to what I want
to do.
Has anyone any experience of what I wish to do ?
Is there a Windows 11 newsgroup ? I am having difficulty in finding one.

This has been talked about a few times. Microsoft keep
changing things, breaking tweaks. Maybe Rufus can still fix
it? Maybe Tiny11 works? I'm not sure.

What I did on two Win10 computers (But I'm not certain
it still works) was to copy a disk image behind the original
Win10 and then create a dual boot by updating the second
instance to Win11. To do that, download the ISO to a data
partition. From the system to be updated, right-click ->
Mount the ISO, then run setup.exe. Be sure to unplug
ethernet first and choose not to allow updates during
install. I don't use wifi, but if you do then you'll need to
shut off your router, change the password, or some such.
I wouldn't trust just disabling it in Windows.

There are two very different approaches -- an update
that saves your files or a fresh install that overwrites. The
former can be done by mounting the ISO. The latter requires
a USB stick boot, using Rufus to put the ISO on the stick.
Rufus also provides a few options to customize that.

It's possible that what I did no longer works, although the
second time I did it was just a couple of months ago. Also of
note: You didn't detail the computer. If it's OEM then you
should be fine, but if you install 11 fresh on a home-built
system then you might have to buy a new license. If so,
don't get duped into the $150 standard retail price.

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On 2025-04-15 13:10, scbs29 wrote:

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Is there a Windows 11 newsgroup ? I am having difficulty in finding one.

Certainly. It is alt.comp.os.windows-11. If you do not see it, it is a
problem with your provider.

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Cheers, Carlos.

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On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 13:29:25 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2025-04-15 13:10, scbs29 wrote:

...

Is there a Windows 11 newsgroup ? I am having difficulty in finding one.

Certainly. It is alt.comp.os.windows-11. If you do not see it, it is a >problem with your provider.

Giganews still does not carry it???????? And they're a biggie.

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On 15/04/2025 12:10, scbs29 wrote:

Hello all
At present I use Windows 10 Pro, but am beginning to consider changing to Windows 11 Pro.
I do not like the idea of having to log in with a Microsoft account though. If I did decide
to change to Windows 11 is it possible to install to replace my Windows 10 OS with a
local account and not affect my installed software. Some of the software I use is
no longer available and I do not wish to lose them.
I have looked on the internet and there seem to be differing opinions as to what I want
to do.
Has anyone any experience of what I wish to do ?
Is there a Windows 11 newsgroup ? I am having difficulty in finding one.

Yes it still works. The new changes haven't been implemented yet. They
might in 25H2 but if you download the ISO now (today) you can still use
the old technique of running the setup.exe to upgrade your Windows 10
while you are OFFLINE. Just select "I don't have Internet" at the time
to installing.

You need "Upgrade" option to preserve your currently installed Apps and
your personal documents. Backup is the buzzword when installing Windows
because things can go wrong when doing it first time.

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On Tue, 4/15/2025 7:10 AM, scbs29 wrote:

Hello all
At present I use Windows 10 Pro, but am beginning to consider changing to Windows 11 Pro.
I do not like the idea of having to log in with a Microsoft account though. If I did decide
to change to Windows 11 is it possible to install to replace my Windows 10 OS with a
local account and not affect my installed software. Some of the software I use is
no longer available and I do not wish to lose them.
I have looked on the internet and there seem to be differing opinions as to what I want
to do.
Has anyone any experience of what I wish to do ?
Is there a Windows 11 newsgroup ? I am having difficulty in finding one.

shift-f10 "start ms-cxh:localonly" # cloud experience host, local account

The shift-f10 opens a command prompt.

Using the breadcrumb, you can find a GUI version of that instruction,
so you have some idea what happens when you hit enter.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/new-windows-11-trick-lets-you-bypass-microsoft-account-requirement/

Download W11 media, before they change it (again) :-)

Paul

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On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 08:17:42 -0400, John B. Smith <crasso@verizon.net> wrote:

On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 13:29:25 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2025-04-15 13:10, scbs29 wrote:

...

Is there a Windows 11 newsgroup ? I am having difficulty in finding one.

Certainly. It is alt.comp.os.windows-11. If you do not see it, it is a >>problem with your provider.

Giganews still does not carry it???????? And they're a biggie.

Actually, Giganews does carry it. I use Giganews and it does now show. It took a long time, but I
have subscribed to it for a couple of months now.

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On 4/15/2025 8:29 AM, Paul wrote:

Download W11 media, before they change it (again) :-)

Interesting point. Last I saw, all past ISOs were available.
So last year's could be used and then updated. I don't
have links, though. I only know about the old versions
because I used a BAT file from a github project to download
them and it provided a menu to choose any version. So
I'm not certain the older ISOs are still available.

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On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 09:03:14 -0500, JA <justanother@nowhere.net>
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 08:17:42 -0400, John B. Smith <crasso@verizon.net> wrote:

On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 13:29:25 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2025-04-15 13:10, scbs29 wrote:

...

Is there a Windows 11 newsgroup ? I am having difficulty in finding one. >>>

Certainly. It is alt.comp.os.windows-11. If you do not see it, it is a >>>problem with your provider.

Giganews still does not carry it???????? And they're a biggie.

Actually, Giganews does carry it. I use Giganews and it does now show. It took a long time, but I
have subscribed to it for a couple of months now.

THANK YOU!!!!! All I had to do was Update Forte Agent's newsgroup
directory. Think I tried it before but maybe that was too early and it
wasn't in there yet.

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