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Is there such a thing as " Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio
2015 "?

Or is there only " Visual C++ Redistributable 2015 "?

Or same question about 2015, 2017, 2019, and even maybe 2022. Do
vrsions with later years in their names contain everything that earlier versions contained? Or do you actually need the very versions that were
used by the author of each program that uses them?

I'm having trouble getting some software to work and the vendor's tech
wrote me to install the first one. When I went to the link he sent me,
it wouldn't let me download unless I subscribed, and subscription was $99.99/month/user, payable for one year in advance. IOW 1199.00, so you
save 86 cents by paying for the full year. I lookied in my cookie jar
and have 1203 dollars but I don't want to spend them all if I will get
the same thing as in my second line.

It's a camera program fwiw so maybe "studio" in the name is more
important for camera programs.

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On 6/30/25 9:25 AM, micky wrote:

Is there such a thing as " Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio
2015 "?

Or is there only " Visual C++ Redistributable 2015 "?

Or same question about 2015, 2017, 2019, and even maybe 2022. Do
vrsions with later years in their names contain everything that earlier versions contained? Or do you actually need the very versions that were
used by the author of each program that uses them?

I'm having trouble getting some software to work and the vendor's tech
wrote me to install the first one. When I went to the link he sent me,
it wouldn't let me download unless I subscribed, and subscription was $99.99/month/user, payable for one year in advance. IOW 1199.00, so you
save 86 cents by paying for the full year. I lookied in my cookie jar
and have 1203 dollars but I don't want to spend them all if I will get
the same thing as in my second line.

It's a camera program fwiw so maybe "studio" in the name is more
important for camera programs.

This is the link I have in my bookmarks. See what you can glean out of it.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170

--
Linux Mint 22.1, Thunderbird 128.11.1esr, Mozilla Firefox 140.0.1
Alan K.

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On Mon, 6/30/2025 9:25 AM, micky wrote:

Is there such a thing as " Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio
2015 "?

Or is there only " Visual C++ Redistributable 2015 "?

Or same question about 2015, 2017, 2019, and even maybe 2022. Do
vrsions with later years in their names contain everything that earlier versions contained? Or do you actually need the very versions that were
used by the author of each program that uses them?

I'm having trouble getting some software to work and the vendor's tech
wrote me to install the first one. When I went to the link he sent me,
it wouldn't let me download unless I subscribed, and subscription was $99.99/month/user, payable for one year in advance. IOW 1199.00, so you
save 86 cents by paying for the full year. I lookied in my cookie jar
and have 1203 dollars but I don't want to spend them all if I will get
the same thing as in my second line.

It's a camera program fwiw so maybe "studio" in the name is more
important for camera programs.

"Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015 cannot be installed when VS2017 RC is installed"

https://developercommunity.visualstudio.com/t/visual-c-redistributable-for-visual-studio-2015-ca/14701

only requires 2015 (14.0.23026.0)

I see a copy here.

https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/microsoft_visual_c_2015_redistributable.html

If this is CamStudio, scan it for PUPS.
The person promoting it, is not the same person as what writes the code :-)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CamStudio

Paul

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In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 30 Jun 2025 11:32:17 -0400,
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 30 Jun 2025 09:44:16 -0400, "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> wrote:

Is there such a thing as " Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio
2015 "?

Or is there only " Visual C++ Redistributable 2015 "?

<https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170>

I'd been to this page but I ddidn't read it closely enough. I spent too
much time on the obscure notes for the 3 versions.*** But below that
was

"The Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015-2022 doesn't have separate packages for different languages. It contains EULAs for all
supported languages." So there really is a Visual Studio version.

And it leads me to the same place where they want me to subscribe. But
I'm not spending $1200 just to get it. I can tell from the questions
asked on their forum that I'm not at all the first guy running win11 to
buy one of their cameras, so this must not be necessary.

The guy I was dealing with wrote me this morning. He's gotten the idea
that he didnt' get one of my emails to him, and that I asked him what my settings should be!! And he's going to refer my problem to a senior
technical expert. I guess that means his first advice was the same
thing they tell everyone. I'll let you know how it turns out.

If seeing a link to subscribe, then please provide that link.

https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/pricing/?tab=paid-subscriptions
$1200!!!

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/visual-studio-professional-subscription/dg7gmgf0dst3/0001?activetab=pivot:overviewtab
.

***Notes from link Alan gave me.
ARM64 Permalink for latest supported ARM64 version
X86 Permalink for latest supported x86 version
x64 Permalink for latest supported x64 version. The X64
Redistributable package contains both ARM64 and X64 binaries. This
package makes it easy to install required Visual C++ ARM64 binaries when
the X64 Redistributable is installed on an ARM64 device. --- I don't
even understand who this applies to, but since I don't have $1200 to
spend, I guess it doesn't matter.

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In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 30 Jun 2025 17:32:04 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

On Mon, 6/30/2025 9:25 AM, micky wrote:

Is there such a thing as " Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio
2015 "?

Or is there only " Visual C++ Redistributable 2015 "?

Or same question about 2015, 2017, 2019, and even maybe 2022. Do
vrsions with later years in their names contain everything that earlier
versions contained? Or do you actually need the very versions that were
used by the author of each program that uses them?

I'm having trouble getting some software to work and the vendor's tech
wrote me to install the first one. When I went to the link he sent me,
it wouldn't let me download unless I subscribed, and subscription was
$99.99/month/user, payable for one year in advance. IOW 1199.00, so you
save 86 cents by paying for the full year. I lookied in my cookie jar
and have 1203 dollars but I don't want to spend them all if I will get
the same thing as in my second line.

It's a camera program fwiw so maybe "studio" in the name is more
important for camera programs.

"Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015 cannot be installed when VS2017 RC is installed"

https://developercommunity.visualstudio.com/t/visual-c-redistributable-for-visual-studio-2015-ca/14701

only requires 2015 (14.0.23026.0)

I'm 99.99% sure I don't have VS2017 RC. I didn't install it and it's
not on Installed App[lication]s

I see a copy here.

https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/microsoft_visual_c_2015_redistributable.html

It looks like my question at the top, in diffferent words, Are they the
same? was a good question. The notes on this majorgeeks page say
"These components are required to run C++ applications that are
developed using Visual Studio 2015 and link dynamically to Visual C++ libraries. This package can be used to run such applications on a
computer even if it does not have Visual Studio 2015 installed."

So people think of them as "for Visual Studio", but they really don't
have that in the name (and I'll bet other programs use them, like this
camera program), and the answer to my question was, They are the same.
Or better yet, despite what he called it, "Visual C++ Redistributable
for Visual Studio 2015", does not exist*** That is not its name. It's
name is "Visual C++ Redistributable 2015" but it was written for Visual
Studio. ***Well, despite my answer to Alan. Hmmm. Well, maybe**** it
has the name they put on its baptism certificate and the name they give
when you download it. So it is confusing. No wonder I was confused.

****Reading Alan's page https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170
again.

So I had already found it, the 2015-2022 version. Later I found the
2015-2019 version (which more closely corresponded to what his email
said I needed) but I coudln't install it because 2015-2022, a later
version, was installed. So I uninstalled 2015-2022 and installed
2015-2019 on the fanciful, optimistic hope that somehow older would be
better.

Similarly, just now, I couldn't install 2015 because a later version (2015-2019) was installed. Do you think it's worth uninstalling
2015-2019 just so I can install 2015? Or are these things truly
backward compatible? I'll wait for your yes or no, and maybe by
tomorrow his expert will chime in with what he thinks is wrong.

If this is CamStudio, scan it for PUPS.
The person promoting it, is not the same person as what writes the code :-)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CamStudio

No, it's not Camstudio. It's a program for a camera to install and
point the camera and view the camera output. AFAIK all the other brands
use only a phone app but this has a Windows program, albeit with
problems. (never used "albeit" before.)

Thanks a lot for settling everything (but how to make it work), but
still, everything else.

Paul

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In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 30 Jun 2025 23:08:00 -0400,
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

micky wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 30 Jun 2025 11:32:17 -0400,
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 30 Jun 2025 09:44:16 -0400, "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> wrote:

Is there such a thing as " Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio >>>> 2015 "?

Or is there only " Visual C++ Redistributable 2015 "?

<https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170>

I'd been to this page but I ddidn't read it closely enough. I spent too
much time on the obscure notes for the 3 versions.***

You're over analyzing

No subscription needed to download or install.

The link that I and Alan provided is the correct link to download the
redistributable.

No subscription needed to download or install.

Not at that link.

2013 and earlier are no longer supported but still available(if needed
for older software that only supports those versions)

Good to know.

Since 2015 each subsequent redistributable was bundled with the earlier
- i.e. why 2015 2017 2019 and 2022 are one downloadable package
e since they share the same core redistributable files.

I finally understand that.

The base requirement is the installed redistributable must the be

same or higher version than the version of the software that required or >installed version 2015 or later or was created with 2015 or later.)
=> if your software requires or was created with a version earlier
than 2015, e.g. 2013 then one would download and install the 2013 >redistributable(while no longer supported still usable by the software
that needs that version)

No subscription needed to download or install.

This one, indeed, is not earlier than 2015.

If you software needs or was created with VC++ 2015 or later download
the latest version of the redistributable(which includes
2015-2017-2019-2022)
- don't confuse the VC++ Visual Studio suite that created the
application software requiring the redistributable with the
redistributable included in the software(or downloadable for installation).

No subscription needed to download or install.

But below thatwas

"The Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015-2022 doesn't have
separate packages for different languages. It contains EULAs for all
supported languages." So there really is a Visual Studio version.

And it leads me to the same place where they want me to subscribe.

No it doesn't.

Yes it does. YOu can take my word for it or you can read what follows
until you're convinced. Remember that I was told Visual Studio was
part of the name of the file. The page Alan sent me to had a sentence,
"Some of the downloads that are mentioned in this article are currently available on my.visualstudio.com.", which clearly seemed to be the place
to get downloads that relate to visual studio, and when one clicks on my.visualstudio.com, it has you log into your microsft account and then
says "Sorry, we couldn’t find your subscription" just like when I
clicked on the link the camera vendor gave me.

This is what the camera vendor tech support had said "Please download a software named Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015 to your computer "Visual Studio Older Downloads - 2019, 2017, 2015"" and the
part in quotes is a link to https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/older-downloads/ and if one clicks
on the 2015, 17, or the 19 versions, and then on Download, it also takes
one to https://my.visualstudio.com/Benefits which takes one to the links
I posted last time that wanted $1199 dollars for the first year.


Continue here:
This is no big deal. It's all clear now, but I don't want to leave stand
the notion that I was overanalysing. I was misled by the vendor and I
wanted to understand how the vendor could send me on a path to spend
$1200 when you folks found a free version. However, the vendor might not
notice that his link requires a subscription because its account *is*
already subscribed. So for someone using that account it looks like a
easy free place to download the file.

Meanwhile I tried to install the camera several times and it doesn't
install either. Unlike the $43 camera from Amazon that installed on the
first try and gave a beautfully clear picture, but didn't have a windows interface. The second camera is in the kitchen right next this laptop
which is well connected to my wifi, but I'll try to connect the camera
again tomorrow after moving closer to the router. But as of now, both
the hardware and software are giving problems. :-)

I really want this camera to work, and all the problems I'm having are
not bad because they're teaching me things.

But I do appreciate the effort you went t.o

Download and install the required redistributable.

No subscription needed to download or install.

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In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Wed, 2 Jul 2025 11:46:50 -0400,
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

micky wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 30 Jun 2025 23:08:00 -0400,
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

You're over analyzing
=> No subscription needed to download or install.

The link that I and Alan provided is the correct link to download the
redistributable.
=> No subscription needed to download or install.

Not at that link.

Yes. You're not seeing it.

What I meant was that the visual studio download was not at the link
and they had told me "to get Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual
Studio 2015 from https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/older-downloads/"

Is the file at https://aka.ms/vs/17/release/vc_redist.x64.exe the same
as Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015.

After I installed it, Windows called it Microsft Visual C++ 2015-2022 Redistributable (x64). No mention of Visual Studio.

So is Microsft Visual C++ 2015-2022 Redistributable (x64) the same as
Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015?

The page Alan sent me to had a sentence,
"Some of the downloads that are mentioned in this article are currently
available on my.visualstudio.com.", which clearly seemed to be the place
to get downloads that relate to visual studio, and when one clicks on
my.visualstudio.com, it has you log into your microsft account and then
says "Sorry, we couldn’t find your subscription" just like when I
clicked on the link the camera vendor gave me.

No, the page Alan sent provided separate downloads and the link to
visual studio.com
- no need to click on the link for visualstudio.com

Not if Microsft Visual C++ 2015-2022 Redistributable (x64) is the same
as Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015? Is it?

There are webpages that DO refer to Visual C++ Redistributable for
VISTUAL STUDIO (my caps).

Even maybe Microsft pages -- I forget -- so it's no wonder some might
think they are different even if they are the same. Or maybe they are
not the same. That is my quesiton.

That page says
" This table lists the latest supported English (en-US) Microsoft
Visual C++ Redistributable packages for Visual Studio 2015, 2017, 2019,
and 2022."

- i.e. Look at the table and download the the version for your
device(ARM64, x86 or x64). The 'table' is under the subheading of Latest >Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable version directly below under the >ArchitectelLink group.
- all those are the redistributable exe file for installation and
applicable to Visual Studio 2015(2017, 2019, 2022)

This is what the camera vendor tech support had said "Please download a
software named Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015 to your
computer "Visual Studio Older Downloads - 2019, 2017, 2015"" and the
part in quotes is a link to
https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/older-downloads/ and if one clicks
on the 2015, 17, or the 19 versions, and then on Download, it also takes
one to https://my.visualstudio.com/Benefits which takes one to the links
I posted last time that wanted $1199 dollars for the first year.

Download and install the required redistributable.
=> No subscription needed to download or install.

Again, don't over analyze this. It's right in front of your eyes.

Again, don't ignore my question,
Is Microsft Visual C++ 2015-2022 Redistributable (x64) the same as
Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015?

Download and install the required redistributable

No subscription needed to download or install!!!!!

Same link as Alan provided

<https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170>

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In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sat, 5 Jul 2025 18:25:37 -0400,
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

micky wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Wed, 2 Jul 2025 11:46:50 -0400,
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

micky wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 30 Jun 2025 23:08:00 -0400,
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

You're over analyzing
=> No subscription needed to download or install.

The link that I and Alan provided is the correct link to download the >>>>> redistributable.
=> No subscription needed to download or install.

Not at that link.

Yes. You're not seeing it.

What I meant was that the visual studio download was not at the link
and they had told me "to get Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual
Studio 2015 from https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/older-downloads/"

Is the file at https://aka.ms/vs/17/release/vc_redist.x64.exe the same
as Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015.

Yes

After I installed it, Windows called it Microsft Visual C++ 2015-2022
Redistributable (x64). No mention of Visual Studio.

Exactly as it should

So is Microsft Visual C++ 2015-2022 Redistributable (x64) the same as
Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015?

Yes

Thank you.

Visual Studio builds the applications(software/programs, web site, web >applications, web services, mobile apps, etc.)

The redistributable is the support application used by and required by
the program to run and function properly.

As noted earlier..you don't need Visual Studio, the VC++ 2015-2022

Other posters brought up the program. I never thought I needed the
program. Never considered getting the program, though maybe that's what
the $1200 would have been for.

Redistributable is all that's necessary.

Thank you.

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In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sat, 05 Jul 2025 22:21:47 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sat, 5 Jul 2025 18:25:37 -0400,
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

micky wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Wed, 2 Jul 2025 11:46:50 -0400,
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

micky wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 30 Jun 2025 23:08:00 -0400,
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

You're over analyzing
=> No subscription needed to download or install.

The link that I and Alan provided is the correct link to download the >>>>>> redistributable.
=> No subscription needed to download or install.

Not at that link.

Yes. You're not seeing it.

What I meant was that the visual studio download was not at the link
and they had told me "to get Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual
Studio 2015 from https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/older-downloads/" >>>
Is the file at https://aka.ms/vs/17/release/vc_redist.x64.exe the same
as Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015.

Yes

After I installed it, Windows called it Microsft Visual C++ 2015-2022
Redistributable (x64). No mention of Visual Studio.

Exactly as it should

So is Microsft Visual C++ 2015-2022 Redistributable (x64) the same as
Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015?

Yes

Thank you.

Visual Studio builds the applications(software/programs, web site, web >>applications, web services, mobile apps, etc.)

The redistributable is the support application used by and required by
the program to run and function properly.

As noted earlier..you don't need Visual Studio, the VC++ 2015-2022

Other posters brought up the program.

When I reread what I wrote, I realized "the program" is too vague. I
meant Visual Studio.

I never thought I needed the
program. >Never considered getting the program, though maybe that's what
the $1200 would have been for.

Redistributable is all that's necessary.

Thank you.

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In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 6 Jul 2025 01:38:48 -0400,
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

micky wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sat, 5 Jul 2025 18:25:37 -0400,
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

micky wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Wed, 2 Jul 2025 11:46:50 -0400,
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

micky wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 30 Jun 2025 23:08:00 -0400,
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

You're over analyzing
=> No subscription needed to download or install.

The link that I and Alan provided is the correct link to download the
redistributable.
=> No subscription needed to download or install.

Not at that link.

Yes. You're not seeing it.

What I meant was that the visual studio download was not at the link
and they had told me "to get Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual
Studio 2015 from https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/older-downloads/" >>>>
Is the file at https://aka.ms/vs/17/release/vc_redist.x64.exe the same >>>> as Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015.

Yes

After I installed it, Windows called it Microsft Visual C++ 2015-2022 >>>> Redistributable (x64). No mention of Visual Studio.

Exactly as it should

So is Microsft Visual C++ 2015-2022 Redistributable (x64) the same as
Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015?

Yes

Thank you.

Visual Studio builds the applications(software/programs, web site, web
applications, web services, mobile apps, etc.)

The redistributable is the support application used by and required by
the program to run and function properly.

As noted earlier..you don't need Visual Studio, the VC++ 2015-2022

Other posters brought up the program. I never thought I needed the
program. Never considered getting the program, though maybe that's what
the $1200 would have been for.

Redistributable is all that's necessary.

Thank you.

Fyi...
If a program needs a specific version of VC++(e.g.
2015-17-19-22)redistributable or earlier many will include the >redistributable in the installation files, some do not.
- the reason why MSFT hosts the redistibutable files(even after
support ends)for download.

In some cases, if the program is installed and doesn't run b/c the
required redistibutable is not included(during install) or presently >installed on the device thus necessitating the need to separately >download/install redistributable....
Why?

it may be necessary to uninstall the program, install the

redistributable, then reinstall the program

Well they didn't say that** and I haven't done it. So I will do that in
a few minutes. **As I outlined, they are sort of the Keystone Cops of
the tech support world. (For Carlos and any young'ns reading,
"fictional, humorously incompetent policemen featured in silent film
slapstick comedies produced by Mack Sennett for his Keystone Film
Company between 1912 and 1917. " I don't think I ever watched their
films but the metaphor was used a lot when I was little.)

or

install the redistibutable and reinstall(on top of existing) the

program

To ensure all the hooks and calls for the redistributable in Windows(and
the registry)are in place.

Makes sense, and I sort of know about such things, but when I was a
mainframe programmer there were systems programmemrs and operators
people whose job it was to keep that straight. For PC's, I'm almost
back to being just a user.

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In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 06 Jul 2025 16:29:03 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 6 Jul 2025 01:38:48 -0400,
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

micky wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sat, 5 Jul 2025 18:25:37 -0400,
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

micky wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Wed, 2 Jul 2025 11:46:50 -0400,
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

micky wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 30 Jun 2025 23:08:00 -0400,
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

You're over analyzing
=> No subscription needed to download or install.

The link that I and Alan provided is the correct link to download the
redistributable.
=> No subscription needed to download or install.

Not at that link.

Yes. You're not seeing it.

What I meant was that the visual studio download was not at the link >>>>> and they had told me "to get Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual
Studio 2015 from https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/older-downloads/" >>>>>
Is the file at https://aka.ms/vs/17/release/vc_redist.x64.exe the same >>>>> as Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015.

Yes

After I installed it, Windows called it Microsft Visual C++ 2015-2022 >>>>> Redistributable (x64). No mention of Visual Studio.

Exactly as it should

So is Microsft Visual C++ 2015-2022 Redistributable (x64) the same as >>>>> Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015?

Yes

Thank you.

Visual Studio builds the applications(software/programs, web site, web >>>> applications, web services, mobile apps, etc.)

The redistributable is the support application used by and required by >>>> the program to run and function properly.

As noted earlier..you don't need Visual Studio, the VC++ 2015-2022

Other posters brought up the program. I never thought I needed the
program. Never considered getting the program, though maybe that's what
the $1200 would have been for.

Redistributable is all that's necessary.

Thank you.

Fyi...
If a program needs a specific version of VC++(e.g. >>2015-17-19-22)redistributable or earlier many will include the >>redistributable in the installation files, some do not.
- the reason why MSFT hosts the redistibutable files(even after
support ends)for download.

In some cases, if the program is installed and doesn't run b/c the
required redistibutable is not included(during install) or presently >>installed on the device thus necessitating the need to separately >>download/install redistributable....
Why?

it may be necessary to uninstall the program, install the >>redistributable, then reinstall the program

Well they didn't say that** and I haven't done it. So I will do that in
a few minutes.

Well, it didn't work but it was certainly worth a try. Thanks.

Uninstalling the program deleted the log, which I should have saved
first buty I'm been over it so many times I know what it looks like and
the new entries are the same.

There's no point in posting the a log, is there, because without the
source code, it's off no use, right?

**As I outlined, they are sort of the Keystone Cops of
the tech support world. (For Carlos and any young'ns reading,
"fictional, humorously incompetent policemen featured in silent film >slapstick comedies produced by Mack Sennett for his Keystone Film
Company between 1912 and 1917. " I don't think I ever watched their
films but the metaphor was used a lot when I was little.)

or

install the redistibutable and reinstall(on top of existing) the >>program

To ensure all the hooks and calls for the redistributable in Windows(and >>the registry)are in place.

Makes sense, and I sort of know about such things, but when I was a
mainframe programmer there were systems programmemrs and operators
people whose job it was to keep that straight. For PC's, I'm almost
back to being just a user.

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If you did want Visual Studio, because you wanted to write software for Windows, and to do it the official Microsoft way, there is always
"Visual Studio Community Edition", which is 100% free and, for most
programmers working on their own, there really isn't much at all that's
missing from it compared to the full version.

--
Brian Gregory (in England).

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You always want the latest applicable VC++ redistributable.
If that's not acceptable to your software then something weird and
rather suspicious is going on.

It's so to have the latest version that Windows Updates will usually automatically take you to the latest version pretty quickly anyway.

At the time of me writing this message all earlier VC++ redistributables
for any VC++ from 2015 to 2022 are replaced by:
Microsoft Visual C++ 2015-2022 Redistributable 14.44.35211

There are separate x86 and x64 versions and, to be honest, I'm not sure
if one ever needs the x86 version on an x64 Windows install. I think the
x64 version may include x86 support, but I don't know.

--
Brian Gregory (in England).

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In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 7 Jul 2025 01:13:30 +0100, Brian
Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:

If you did want Visual Studio, because you wanted to write software for >Windows, and to do it the official Microsoft way, there is always
"Visual Studio Community Edition", which is 100% free and, for most >programmers working on their own, there really isn't much at all that's >missing from it compared to the full version.

Good to know. That was not mentioned on the page that wanted 1200
dollars. Why the camera company sent me there, who knows.

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In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 7 Jul 2025 01:08:50 +0100, Brian
Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:

You always want the latest applicable VC++ redistributable.
If that's not acceptable to your software then something weird and
rather suspicious is going on.

It's so to have the latest version that Windows Updates will usually >automatically take you to the latest version pretty quickly anyway.

At the time of me writing this message all earlier VC++ redistributables
for any VC++ from 2015 to 2022 are replaced by:
Microsoft Visual C++ 2015-2022 Redistributable 14.44.35211

There are separate x86 and x64 versions and, to be honest, I'm not sure
if one ever needs the x86 version on an x64 Windows install. I think the
x64 version may include x86 support, but I don't know.

How about an x86 version in a 64 bit system? Could that work with
anything? On the previous 64-bit computer I noticed that I had some
x86 redistributables, but I don't remember why or if they helped
anything. There was no confusion back then like this thread, trying to
make something work that did not want to.

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On 2025/7/7 17:31:26, micky wrote:
[]

How about an x86 version in a 64 bit system? Could that work with
anything? On the previous 64-bit computer I noticed that I had some
x86 redistributables, but I don't remember why or if they helped
anything. There was no confusion back then like this thread, trying to
make something work that did not want to.

Most 32-bit software will install and run an a 64-bit system (it usually defaults to putting itself, or more likely the OS puts it by default, in "Program Files (x86)" rather than just "Program Files". 16- (and 8-,
though I'm not sure there is any of the latter) bit software generally
_won't_ - you have to use a VM (virtual machine) running a 32-bit OS,
though OTVDM will let _some_ 16-bit software run on a 64-bit system with
less bother than a VM.

The exception is _driver_ software; 32-bit _drivers_ (for hardware)
generally _won't_ run on a 64-bit system; if you have a 64 system,
you're far better chasing the hardware manufacturer for 64-bit drivers
than trying to get the 32-bit drivers to work on it. (I don't think I've
ever heard of anyone succeeding at that.) If the manufacturer won't play
ball (or have disappeared), then trying drivers for other models (of
printers or scanners, at least) [usually only ones from the same
manufacturer] sometimes works; in the case of scanners only, there is
also VueScan, which allows lots of old models of scanner to keep
working, but unfortunately it costs (last time I looked) about the same
as a second-hand scanner for which drivers _are_ available, so only
worth it if your old scanner is special in some way. (Not VueScan's
fault; they're a small company and haven't managed to sell enough copies
to bring the price down.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

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In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 7 Jul 2025 12:26:07 -0400,
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

micky wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 06 Jul 2025 16:29:03 -0400, micky
<NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 6 Jul 2025 01:38:48 -0400,
"...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

Fyi...
If a program needs a specific version of VC++(e.g.
2015-17-19-22)redistributable or earlier many will include the
redistributable in the installation files, some do not.
- the reason why MSFT hosts the redistibutable files(even after
support ends)for download.

In some cases, if the program is installed and doesn't run b/c the
required redistibutable is not included(during install) or presently
installed on the device thus necessitating the need to separately
download/install redistributable....
Why?
=> it may be necessary to uninstall the program, install the
redistributable, then reinstall the program

Well they didn't say that** and I haven't done it. So I will do that in
a few minutes.

Well, it didn't work but it was certainly worth a try. Thanks.

Again, provide more detailed and accurate information.

The name of the software?
The architecture of the software?

I dont' want to do that because I've spoken negatively about them and I
don't know that they deserve it.

=> just b/c the device is 64 bit, it does not mean the software is 64
bit, uses or requires the 64 bit redistributable

That's what he told me to get.

The release date of the software?

Don't know.

=> possibly important, if the installed software was released prior
to 2015, it's unlikely the 2015-2022 redistributable is the needed
version. In fact, software released after 2015 may still require an
earlier distributable version(which are still available from MFST to
download but no longer supported(no updates in code or security patching).

Finally, earlier you mentioned - 'installed the camera'.

Cameras are connected, software is installed and/or Windows

installs or uses a driver for the camera.

Someone from their tech support is going to call me this evening. Maybe
I'll know more.

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On 07/07/2025 17:31, micky wrote:

How about an x86 version in a 64 bit system? Could that work with anything?

I think that's fine if the software that needs it is 32 bit.

With many of the older ones you definitely needed the right one (x86 or
x64) for the software you had, so you could, in some cases, end up
needing both versions.

--
Brian Gregory (in England).

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On Mon, 7/7/2025 9:59 PM, ...winston wrote:

micky wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 7 Jul 2025 01:08:50 +0100, Brian
Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:

You always want the latest applicable VC++ redistributable.
If that's not acceptable to your software then something weird and
rather suspicious is going on.

It's so to have the latest version that Windows Updates will usually
automatically take you to the latest version pretty quickly anyway.

At the time of me writing this message all earlier VC++ redistributables >>> for any VC++ from 2015 to 2022 are replaced by:
Microsoft Visual C++ 2015-2022 Redistributable 14.44.35211

There are separate x86 and x64 versions and, to be honest, I'm not sure
if one ever needs the x86 version on an x64 Windows install. I think the >>> x64 version may include x86 support, but I don't know.

How about an x86 version in a 64 bit system?  Could that work with
anything?   On the previous 64-bit computer I noticed that I had some
x86 redistributables, but I don't remember why or if they helped
anything.   There was no confusion back then like this thread, trying to >> make something work that did not want to.

It's not necessarily a relation of x64 devices needing or using only 64 bit redistributable.

The program that requires the redistributable is coded to determine what architecture and version it needs.

 i.e. a 32 bit software application depending on when built and released may require a specific redistibutable and not the latest available version.
 Thus, as noted in another post...VC++ 2015-2022 Redistributable may not be appropriate for software that required(or coded) to look for and use an earlier version.  That uniqueness may easily require a 32 bit version specific VC++ Redistibutable to

be installed on a 64 bit Win10/11 device.


Installing both 32-bit and 64-bit materials at the same time,
is not particularly for the benefit of the program doing that.
What they're trying to do, is head off situations where the
user is "half-up-to-date". By installing both, that's an
all or nothing approach to installing "Version X".

Most developers shy away from mixing 32-bit and 64-bit modules
in the same package. Yet, if you have sufficient skill, you
can do things like that. For most developers, there is no incentive
to doing that.

Users have to know entirely too much about DLLs and such.

The DynDLL support is partially missing on Windows 11. Previous
OSes, the loader would stop and print a message indicating which DLL
was missing. In Windows 11 that no longer works, and the user is
expected to use their own memory banks as to what the dependencies
on a gnuwin32 program are.

These are no longer used. These are "glue DLLs" that Microsoft tried
to install at every opportunity back in the Win7 era. Firefox used to
have one of the nicest curated set of these, including sets for
several Windows OSes. With FOSS projects, the user was expected to
fend for themselves, and guess at where they could find these.
If you look in a Firefox installer today, these are gone (because
Firefox doesn't have to support Win7 any more).

Name: api-ms-win-core-console-l1-1-0.dll
Size: 18624 bytes (18 KiB)
SHA256: BCE066193FEB60B08EDF4CBEB490AAAA5DFFEB8A63A720CADF948748A9AF4B8F

One of the people in another group, he had some program that
was asking for instances of those, I couldn't find them in Google!
The 1-1-0 part, he had a program asking for something with a "4" in it.
And that's a glue-DLL, it doesn't have any actual code inside it.

A user is expected to know about sixteen different kinds of program installers, the entire history of DLLs, how Visual Studio works, and so on. You're
earning a CS degree, without going to school.

Paul

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