• The Overrated Homosexual Obama

    From Sam Elliott Harris Voter@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 19 23:46:23 2024
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    My Red State colleague, Jeff Charles, has already reported on former
    President Barack Obama’s recent attempted public shaming of black men
    who don’t want to vote for Vice President Kamala Harris, supposedly
    because of their misogyny.

    I would like to associate with most of his column. The one exception I
    have is to this statement – “it’s the type of mistake that Obama doesn’t
    normally make.”

    I beg to differ. Actually, I think it is the type of mistake that
    Barack Obama often made.

    You know, Obama is the guy who once said, in 2008, “And it’s not
    surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or
    antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” And who
    said, that same year, that he was going to "spread the wealth around" of
    people to “Joe the Plumber.” And who said, in 2012, “If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.”

    Let me stand even further athwart the conventional wisdom regarding
    President Obama. His recent statement is just another example that
    demonstrates that Barack Obama is, and always was, a very overrated
    politician.

    I have written below a list of characteristics that good candidates for political office are frequently thought to have. This list comes from my observations on American politics since the 1988 election, my extensive campaign experience since the early 90s, my long-time experience in the
    Hill, and my Bachelor’s and Master’s degrees in Political Science (it's good that I can finally use the latter for something).

    According to most knowledgeable political observers, a good political
    candidate is one who:

    Wins most of his/her elections, including in competitive races.
    Has a good appearance, voice, and charisma.
    Is a good political strategist and has good political instincts.
    Gives good speeches.
    Is good on his feet.
    Has a "moderate" record on the issues. Not too far to the left, and not
    too far to the right.
    Avoids saying and doing politically foolish things.
    Avoids associating with shady, radical, criminal and/or controversial characters.
    Is energetic and hardworking, and is certainly not lazy.
    Is a good fundraiser.
    Is able to stick to his/her talking points.
    Can be a pragmatist on some important issues. (A pragmatist is willing
    to make compromises, while a moderate tends to have moderate issue
    positions.)
    Chooses competent people to run his/her campaign, and is willing to
    listen to them.
    Is, at the very least, above average in intelligence.
    Is loyal to "them that brought you."
    Comes across as authentic.
    Is likable to the non-political average person. You know, the “beer question.”
    Now, let’s focus on President Obama and how he compares to this list:

    1. Obama won his two presidential campaigns, including a competitive
    primary in 2008 when he was the underdog. He won a U.S. Senate race in Illinois. And he won three state senate races. He only lost his attempt
    to move up to the U.S. Congress in 2000, against a longtime sitting Congressman. However, Obama’s record is more mixed than it would
    initially seem. He won his state senate seat and U.S. Senate seat
    largely by playing dirty pool against his opponents, and his 2008
    presidential general election victory was easy – he won in a terrible
    year for the Republicans and against a bad candidate – that almost any Democrat could have done it. Nonetheless, I will officially give Obama
    the check for having this quality. √

    2. Obama certainly has a good appearance, voice, and charisma. √

    3. Obama never impressed me as a political strategist. One personal
    example, in 2007-2008, when Obama ran for president, he faced a major
    criticism – he was a talker and not a doer, and as a U.S. senator, he
    had accomplished virtually nothing concrete. To rectify this, Obama
    pushed bipartisan legislation called the MEJA Expansion and Enforcement
    Act of 2007. What the bill did was unimportant. However, instead of
    doing the smart thing and being willing to compromise with the Bush administration to get this bill passed into law, Obama’s team allowed
    Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Pat Leahy, a Democrat partisan if
    there ever was one, to “negotiate” it to death with the Bush administration. This “negotiation” was something I attended: endless meetings where the Leahy staff berated the White House negotiators,
    repeating the same allegations over and over again, and never attempted
    to actually compromise on something that might get passed. Which was not
    in Obama’s interest, since he wanted to brag about his passed law. ×

    4. Obama gave one good speech, in 2004, which led to his presidential
    run in 2008. Other than that, I fail to remember anything positively
    memorable that he has ever said. But I am feeling generous, so I will
    give this to him. √

    5. Obama was not particularly good on his feet. He often said
    unfortunate things, including the above statements, and also including
    his promise: "If you like your health care plan, you can keep it," which
    became the lie of the year in 2013. It is not good for a politician to
    be caught in a lie. And here are some more ill-fated statements Obama
    made. ×

    6. Obama was a radical leftist who had a left-wing state senate record (including on abortion), but he got “lucky” (see above) in 2004. In
    2008, his left-wing U.S. Senate record was overshadowed by the poor
    economy and the war in Iraq. And in 2012, his left-wing presidential
    record forced him to go negative against Romney (he’ll “put you all back
    in chains”) to win. ×

    7. Obama often said and did politically foolish things. See above. ×

    8. Obama often associated with controversial persons. See racist and antisemite Rev. Jeremiah Wright, whom Obama sought religious guidance
    from and prayed with (unlike Oprah, who wisely moved to another church).
    See terrorist Bill Ayers. See convicted fraudster Tony Rezko. See racist
    and antisemite Louis Farrakhan. He also associated and assisted other
    corrupt individuals. ×

    9. Obama was considered rather lazy, even by himself. As was said of him
    in the passage of some legislation in the Illinois state senate that he
    was given credit for, “He was not the nuts-and-bolts guy. He got credit
    for it, but he did not put it together. This was a lot of hard work and negotiation between lawyers and law enforcement.” Indeed, much of what
    Obama supposedly accomplished in the state senate was actually
    accomplished by the Democrat leader who wanted Obama to be a U.S.
    Senator. ×

    10. Obama was certainly an excellent fundraiser. √

    11. Obama had a big problem sticking to his talking points (and avoiding sticking his foot in his mouth). See above. ×

    12. Obama may or may not have been a pragmatist. Left-wing sources felt
    he was. But I, and many conservatives, beg to differ. =

    13. Obama certainly chose competent people to advise him when he ran for
    public office. See, for example, David Axelrod, who got his opponents
    bounced in Obama’s race for the U.S. Senate. √

    14. Obama is intelligent, although, like almost all Democrat presidents
    (but not Biden), his intelligence is probably somewhat overestimated
    (JFK, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, and Obama were all portrayed as
    geniuses). √

    15. Obama was generally very loyal to his own people, who returned his
    loyalty. √

    16. Obama came across as a leftist who was trying to conceal his
    left-wing radicalism. See above. Making him inauthentic. That was also
    one of the reasons his frequent voting “present” in the state senate
    became an issue in his races. ×

    17. Obama was considered sort of a “cold fish” who would fail the beer question. And indeed, his beer summit with Henry Gates was reportedly
    somewhat uncomfortable. ×

    Since, in my view, Barack Obama has more negative qualities than
    positive ones, I don’t believe the conventional wisdom considering his qualities as a political candidate.

    Therefore, I think Obama was, and is, overrated as a politician. And his
    recent statement shows that, once again.

    https://redstate.com/adam-turner/2024/10/19/the-overrated-obama-n2180777

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  • From kazu@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 20 10:27:56 2024
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    i am not a homosexual, so how is it relevant?

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