Putting aside, for the moment, the comments about Peters, it is time for a >proper enquiry. Will the new government do it, if it is the current mob it will
not that is for sure?
https://peterallanwilliams.substack.com/p/the-ivermectin-scandal
Putting aside, for the moment, the comments about Peters, it is time for a proper enquiry. Will the new government do it, if it is the current mob it will
not that is for sure?
On Sat, 2 Sep 2023, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote: >>https://peterallanwilliams.substack.com/p/the-ivermectin-scandal
Putting aside, for the moment, the comments about Peters, it is time for a >>proper enquiry. Will the new government do it, if it is the current mob it will
not that is for sure?
National won't, because they were all-in. ACT was all-in too, I'm
pretty sure -- glad to be informed otherwise.
People weren't allowed to opt out of the great COVID vaccine
experiment -- if you didn't take the vaccine, the other drugs which
would have helped (hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin) were actually
taken off the shelves and denied to you, even though they were
perfectly legal and over-the-counter before. That is an additional
layer of compulsion which is being kept hushed-up.
Those (overseas) bastards invented covid-19, then put us thru hell for
2 years for it. What would a proper investigation conclude should be
the punishment for that? That's why they will make sure that such an >investigation never happens.
And the cheerleading media will similarly obfuscate the whole topic,
because they were as responsible as anyone for the dismal wringer that
the people were put thru. It's full-court press all the way for the
guilty parties to prevent any sort of reckoning to get started, or
even get mentioned. It's outside of the "Overton Window" permanently.
On Sat, 02 Sep 2023, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Neither am I. After all these years he has finally taught me something - he is the definition of a plonker.
Tony and Willy Nilly, if you do try either of these do tell us what >>happened, and also how much it costs you.
I do have some ivermectin which I got cheap back in 2020. I never
took any, not either when I caught Covid last year. Didn't need it,
the covid was no big deal.
I'm not taking the bait on Rich's other tedious queries.
On Sat, 02 Sep 2023 04:00:18 GMT, willynilly@qwert.com (Willy Nilly)
wrote:
On Sat, 2 Sep 2023, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote: >>>https://peterallanwilliams.substack.com/p/the-ivermectin-scandal
Putting aside, for the moment, the comments about Peters, it is time for a >>>proper enquiry. Will the new government do it, if it is the current mob it will
not that is for sure?
National won't, because they were all-in. ACT was all-in too, I'm
pretty sure -- glad to be informed otherwise.
People weren't allowed to opt out of the great COVID vaccine
experiment -- if you didn't take the vaccine, the other drugs which
would have helped (hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin) were actually
taken off the shelves and denied to you, even though they were
perfectly legal and over-the-counter before. That is an additional
layer of compulsion which is being kept hushed-up.
Do you have any references to the efficacy of either of those drugs?
From: https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-revokes-emergency-use-authorization-chloroquine-and
"Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) revoked the
emergency use authorization (EUA) that allowed for chloroquine
phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate donated to the Strategic
National Stockpile to be used to treat certain hospitalized patients
with COVID-19 when a clinical trial was unavailable, or participation
in a clinical trial was not feasible. The agency determined that the
legal criteria for issuing an EUA are no longer met. Based on its
ongoing analysis of the EUA and emerging scientific data, the FDA
determined that chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are unlikely to be effective in treating COVID-19 for the authorized uses in the EUA. Additionally, in light of ongoing serious cardiac adverse events and
other potential serious side effects, the known and potential benefits
of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine no longer outweigh the known and potential risks for the authorized use. "
and also :
https://www.goodrx.com/hydroxychloroquine/plaquenil-side-effects
and for Ivermectin: https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/miscellaneous-drugs/ivermectin/
There were restrictions on the use of both drugs in the USA and
Australia, following cases where harm had been caused by use by
individuals without professional advice,
but I am not aware of any
similar restrictions in New Zealand - at least one of them may well be available from a veterinarian or farm supply organisaton.
Tony and Willy Nilly, if you do try either of these do tell us what
happened, and also how much it costs you. It may be hard for you to
catch Covid to do a proper test, but anecdotal evidence is all we
expect from you anyway.
Those (overseas) bastards invented covid-19, then put us thru hell for
2 years for it. What would a proper investigation conclude should be
the punishment for that? That's why they will make sure that such an >>investigation never happens.
Who are you talking about? Who do you think should be doing that investigation?
And the cheerleading media will similarly obfuscate the whole topic, >>because they were as responsible as anyone for the dismal wringer that
the people were put thru. It's full-court press all the way for the
guilty parties to prevent any sort of reckoning to get started, or
even get mentioned. It's outside of the "Overton Window" permanently.
Who is guilty, and of what? It does seem a good idea to prevent people
from causing themselves harm, but perhaps you have something else in
mind.
Tony and Willy Nilly, if you do try either of these do tell us what
happened, and also how much it costs you.
On 2023-09-02, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 02 Sep 2023 04:00:18 GMT, willynilly@qwert.com (Willy Nilly)
wrote:
On Sat, 2 Sep 2023, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote: >>>>https://peterallanwilliams.substack.com/p/the-ivermectin-scandal >>>>Putting aside, for the moment, the comments about Peters, it is time for a >>>>proper enquiry. Will the new government do it, if it is the current mob it will
not that is for sure?
National won't, because they were all-in. ACT was all-in too, I'm
pretty sure -- glad to be informed otherwise.
People weren't allowed to opt out of the great COVID vaccine
experiment -- if you didn't take the vaccine, the other drugs which
would have helped (hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin) were actually
taken off the shelves and denied to you, even though they were
perfectly legal and over-the-counter before. That is an additional
layer of compulsion which is being kept hushed-up.
Do you have any references to the efficacy of either of those drugs?
From:
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-revokes-emergency-use-authorization-chloroquine-and
"Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) revoked the
emergency use authorization (EUA) that allowed for chloroquine
phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate donated to the Strategic
National Stockpile to be used to treat certain hospitalized patients
with COVID-19 when a clinical trial was unavailable, or participation
in a clinical trial was not feasible. The agency determined that the
legal criteria for issuing an EUA are no longer met. Based on its
ongoing analysis of the EUA and emerging scientific data, the FDA
determined that chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are unlikely to be
effective in treating COVID-19 for the authorized uses in the EUA.
Additionally, in light of ongoing serious cardiac adverse events and
other potential serious side effects, the known and potential benefits
of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine no longer outweigh the known and
potential risks for the authorized use. "
Now, first of all let us define which side the FDA is on. Certainly they
have changed their mind as the pandemic has passed.
FDA passed Ivermectin in 1966 (for human use) and the changed their mind at >the start of the pandemic.
Talking about the ongoing serious cardiac adverse events and
other potential serious side effects, ... oh sorry we are still not >discussing this issue.
It looks like the FDA still does not *reccommend* Ivermectin for viral >infections. Some Doctors may not take FDA's advice.
and also :
https://www.goodrx.com/hydroxychloroquine/plaquenil-side-effects
and for Ivermectin:
https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/miscellaneous-drugs/ivermectin/
(Background. President Biden has said that the USA will start yet another >round of vaccinations start 11 September 2023.)
There were restrictions on the use of both drugs in the USA and
Australia, following cases where harm had been caused by use by
individuals without professional advice,
That is because the mandate did not allow Doctors to act freely. They were >shut down.
There is little point in additional vaccinations when you have Covid.but I am not aware of any
similar restrictions in New Zealand - at least one of them may well be
available from a veterinarian or farm supply organisaton.
Tony and Willy Nilly, if you do try either of these do tell us what
happened, and also how much it costs you. It may be hard for you to
catch Covid to do a proper test, but anecdotal evidence is all we
expect from you anyway.
Rich, tell us if catch covid, for you will be jabbing frequently, and this >will have a much incresed chance of catching Covid.
There have been lots of conspiracy theories - most debunked now.Remember the conspiracy theories Rich? They now lie buried under the >evidence of which time has given.
Those (overseas) bastards invented covid-19, then put us thru hell for
2 years for it. What would a proper investigation conclude should be
the punishment for that? That's why they will make sure that such an >>>investigation never happens.
Who are you talking about? Who do you think should be doing that
investigation?
Considering that it is your mates which have been party to the Covid >narrative you should now what Willy is talking about. If not please go to >Ukraine.What are you talking about here?
And the cheerleading media will similarly obfuscate the whole topic, >>>because they were as responsible as anyone for the dismal wringer that >>>the people were put thru. It's full-court press all the way for the >>>guilty parties to prevent any sort of reckoning to get started, or
even get mentioned. It's outside of the "Overton Window" permanently.
Who is guilty, and of what? It does seem a good idea to prevent people
from causing themselves harm, but perhaps you have something else in
mind.
willynilly@qwert.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:
On Sat, 02 Sep 2023, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Neither am I. After all these years he has finally taught me something - he is
Tony and Willy Nilly, if you do try either of these do tell us what >>>happened, and also how much it costs you.
I do have some ivermectin which I got cheap back in 2020. I never
took any, not either when I caught Covid last year. Didn't need it,
the covid was no big deal.
I'm not taking the bait on Rich's other tedious queries.
the definition of a plonker.
On Sat, 02 Sep 2023, Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
Tony and Willy Nilly, if you do try either of these do tell us what >>happened, and also how much it costs you.
I do have some ivermectin which I got cheap back in 2020. I never
took any, not either when I caught Covid last year. Didn't need it,
the covid was no big deal.
I'm not taking the bait on Rich's other tedious queries.
That was the Omicron version. If it had not appeared many people would
still be dying from Covid.
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